right guys welcome to the W show here do you want to scooch over where we debate
whether or not it's okay to say the word but hurt on the W show I personally
think it's okay because that okay hold on hold on hold on hold on because it
can't really be uh like okay H without
this getting too V hold on just cuz it's
not it's not a sexual preference thing everyone everyone has a butt and there's
plenty of okay there's plenty of stuff that can be
of sexual orientation it's not you know a female or male thing everyone has a
butt everyone's butt can
hurt yes okay ignoring the gender thing
entirely you could even take it from The Stance of like well what stance would
you take it from exactly usually a slight anyways um but
you could take it from like a fwell skateboarding yeah butt hurt your butt
would probably hurt as long like a you
know a rail or anything like that lots
of things could hurt yes well and like of course while falling while skateboarding anything else could hurt
but if you f while skateboarding on your butt your butt would probably hurt your
butt would probably hurt I also know people that have had tailbone injuries which usually reference that as a butt
injury right unless you were wearing a helmet on your butt yeah yes butt helmet
Kim Kardashian probably needs a butt helmet a butt I wouldn't think so I
would think it would be more she has like a built-in air
bag yeah didn't one of her sisters have her butt in implants leaking or
something like wasn't that I don't know they're gross I don't even find them attractive to be completely honest no my
my whole thing is this is I get all of my celebrity gossip from the from the
magazine stand at the grocery store because I go to the grocery store
exactly often enough that I'm hearing about it within my tolerance for how
much I can hear about it and and I'm not
learning too much you don't like watch TV or anything really but I'll also be
aware of sort of what everyone else is talking about stuff so I find it's a
good balance for me right so this this week on The W show
NVIDIA did a bunch of things and people didn't like it um and so did Comcast no
one liked those either Comcast did lots of stuff people didn't like um the FCC
did stuff people liked and what else we got and there's uh Oculus technology
that can make it so you don't see advertisements in real Oculus technology
it has nothing to do with oculus and it isn't even it isn't even virtual reality
it does have stuff to do with oculus well it's augmented reality it uses an
OC it has to do with Hollow lens it uses an Oculus you use an Oculus it is you
use an Oculus you can't we're trying to have a debate here and you're ignoring
the things I'm saying that are
true seriously look the guy's looking through an Ulus with a camera in the
front of it I could argue that someone looking through any kind of of optical
viewing device is looking through an are mainly based off of the windshield yeah
it's a windshield Oculus
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let's move on with the show yes it is still Christmas yes we know the problem
is that Luke's Twitter handle isn't fixed on the non-christmas one and we
did promise as part of tip Starter by the way we still need to do the body paint one that's going to be hilarious
but one of our like a few yeah one of our tip starter commitments was to fix
Luke's Twitter handle so if we undo it now then we're basically terrible people
toally screwed up okay so let's see we have done the well okay the Twitter
handle thing we released the Stormtrooper rap audio we did WOW as
girls we did LTT Under Fire we have not done body paint we still need to do
clown costume wow and body paint and we
need to get wingardium get the bleep back to work Luke so we need to get our
Harry Potter uh Daniel Radcliffe a
standup cardboard guy to stand over your desk and we need a speech bubble as well
oh that's going to be awesome it's going to be kind of great I'll look to that
for inspiration every time I find myself on imager all right so what I think we
need to do here is is basically just get
right into the big topic this week I
mean um there there was an absolute bomb so
the the the story kind of broke simultaneously on overclock.net and on
Reddit with people running a utility where they discovered that's usually how
Reddit works yeah yeah so so users of
gtx970 graphics cards were running a utility that was showing them the memory
uh the memory bandwidth they were getting from the board's vram sort of
block by block as they made their way through the entire capacity and what
people discovered is that the first three and 1 12 gigs of the four gigs of
advertised vram were running at full speed and that the last 500 Megs or so
we're actually running at a speed of about 17th the rest of the vram so initially
NVIDIA was saying not a whole lot of much of anything and they were just kind
of going we'll get back to you on that
and then from there NVIDIA kind of
reached out to some key members of the press so the articles that I personally
read were on a non-tech PC per as well
as tech report since I have a lot of respect for the Ryan and Scott it's like
ran and Ryan Smith Ryan Shrout they're
both Ryan I could call them I could call them Shrout Smith and wson there you go
no one would know what the devil I'm talking about and a Smith and Wasson
kind of sounds a gun I actually recognize uh and when you fire it it
goes shout yeah I actually recognize shout more than
Ryan I don't know why he does go by that okay yeah so anyway so I read their
articles and basically NVIDIA reached out to these guys and explained in much
further detail than we had been had access to in the past how exactly the
memory controller works on the GTX 970
now the gtx980 is completely unaffected by the issue because it features all of
the RS all of the cach and all of the
memory controller goodness of the Maxwell uh excuse me uh GM 204 chip
whereas the gtx970 has instead of what we've seen in
the past where we'd have like a a chunk of memory controller R smm caor where
we'd have an entire unit kind of shut off the gtx970 only has it sort of
partially shut off so the way that that works in the real world is you don't get
the cash you don't get the RS but you do
get to put the memory on the card and you do have access to it albeit at a
significantly reduced data rate so what that means is NVIDIA's done some Tom
Foolery with the drivers and the firmware of the card to ensure that the
first three and 1 half gigs the high performance part gets used first and
some applications will see that as a limit While others will fill up the rest
but only once it's done with with the first 3 and 1/2 gigs now this is still
faster than swapping out to main memory over PCI Express although not by as much
as I would typically like uh can I help you with something yeah go to that link
and put it on screen oh yeah for sure uh
oh your thing's different that's why yeah I'm not signed into what the I got
signed out too I don't know what's you are logged in successfully you can now
refresh thanks for that super useless page what the heck was that anyways guys
give just one moment I'm trying to get a diagram on screen so people can know
what you're talking about this is the one where it shows the crossbar yeah you I'm sure you've seen this um it's just
it's helpful there we go there we go okay so got oh oh oh um hold on I can
just post it in chat but like I want the
archive viewers to be able to see it okay just Z just Z like you guys too
just just Z oh um oh that's weird I'm
going to post it in chat in the meantime oh we didn't check that today oh that is
extremely unfortunate hold on a second uh well I'm going to let the I got it I
got it I got it I got it I got it okay we have a directional HTMI cable and
it's going the wrong way way yeah fun oh I love the show I love the show
best show on the internet the more I say I love this show the more you guys know
that I am hating my life right now
yeah I love this show let's plug this
baby in it's the best show on the internet
and let's go it's got the greatest Technologies running it they've got
completely the improper mic they have a mixer and a condenser which is not even
plugged in it's not even it's not a condenser what is it it's a compressor
compressor one does not condense One does not simply condense
audio all right you could condense audio you just have to take like a
two-minute audio clip and put it into one minute you just like fast it's like
fast forwarding audio all right so uh basically the way it works is and this
is perfectly normal for CPUs gpus RAM
whatever else the case may be when something doesn't get baked just right
and there's a couple bits that are broken what they'll do and and this
diagram shows it pretty well so here's the level two cache that's disabled here
are some of the SMS that are disabled is what and and they won't necessarily be
in this spot like if this SM is broken and this one and this one or something
that's fine too that part becomes a GT
x970 instead of a 980 so basically we've got all the memory controllers and this
was something that we'd never seen before NVIDIA being able to with a great
degree of granularity disable only
certain parts of the chip so NVIDIA's
story and I I think I'm with the other guys on this one I I think I believe
this is that the engineers and the
technical marketing guys weren't synced up correctly on how this worked and the
technical marketing guys assumed that they couldn't disable with this level of
granularity and gave an incorrect spec
initially for the gtx970 saying it had the same number of
rups as the gtx980 and the same amount
of cash which in the end it turned out
it did not so NVIDIA kind of went yep hey whoa we y we flubbed on this and uh
and sort of you know that that's all very well and believable but I think
where people are truly upset
is because NVIDIA is now saying so we
we've gotten further into this NVIDIA is saying blah blah blah yes it's by Design
here we're showing you how the crossbar works and how the communication works
because NVIDIA is saying that this is by Design I think the reason people are
upset is because for all intents and purposes the
gtx970 you said it does have 4 gabes of
gddr5 memory on it but given that an
eighth of it runs at only about 50%
faster than swapping out to system memory the reason people are upset is
because I mean is that really usable it almost doesn't count it's there sure
whatever I guess you can put that on the box but like it's not really effective
and that's kind of bull crap now I've seen a lot of different arguments here
um things like uh AMD tweeted actually
we've got a we've got a link to this um
here we go so Robert HCK from AMD tweeted oh oh AMD 4 gigs means 4 gigs um
which been taking shots all over the place yeah they've been just like
they've got like NVIDIA in the headlock and they're like yeah how's your kidney
like that one yeah how about this one yeah um but quite frankly I see some
parallels that people are drawing that I can kind of get on board with like the
fact that both AMD and NVIDIA advertise
dual GPU graphics cards as having 8 gigs
of RAM or 6 gigs of RAM when anyone
technical enough knows that effectively
it's only half that amount a lot of people don't know that a lot of people
don't know that and to me that has always been a very gray way of
advertising but honestly that was a confusing thing when I like first got
into computers and they first started releasing those cards I was like oh
sweet they just like ramped everything up like even even knowing how that works
I just assumed that there was just more RAM but that is not how it works so so
again that's always been very gr to me but the thing that made it somewhat okay
is that without really doing any digging an educated user could go and read up on
it and they were always very upfront about doubling a vram by adding two gpus
each with their own frame buffer does not effectively double the amount of
texture information that you can store in the video memory with this one
it really feels like having been at the
Maxwell launch event it really feels like they were intentionally not giving
us any more information about how Maxwell worked than they absolutely felt
like they had to and I feel like even though they screwed up perhaps
unintentionally in fact I'll tell you what I'm going to say I believe them I
believe that the r and cash thing was unintentional because there are
utilities that'll even pick up the GT x970 doesn't have the full two EGS of
level two cash so this that one we probably should have noticed but the
fact that they didn't tell us that an eighth of the memory was running at a
significantly lower speed I don't believe they didn't know that so the
fact that they decided not to tell us um
and waited for this to come out means they either thought no one would ever
notice which again seems very unlikely I
mean NVIDIA knows that obsess
like uh like shroud over at PC per the
guys I listed before Scott at tech report Ryan at a ntech Ryan Ryan Scott
they they they they know that these guys are going to obsessively poke and prod
at this thing surely they couldn't have imagined that no one would figure this
out at some point so was it stupid was
it mismanagement was it deception I
don't know Mis communication for like a crazy long time cuz one of the engineers
must have seen some documentation at some some point in time that was
released by NVIDIA and been like that's not actually right and even not that's
not actually right but even just something as simple as a memory
bandwidth spec I mean if they had done
something kind of shady like average it
like if they'd kind of gone okay well like it's a weighted average you know
seven portions this and one portion that and kind of gone here's the memory
bandwidth of the card if they had done something like that I kind of mind have
gone yeah okay they were it's gross but sure I guess super groy and if they had
been up front and said okay well look we're rating this as and they put an
asterisk on it look we're rating this as a as an average
um like I I'd have felt a lot better about it but right now it really does
feel like we were intentionally deceived about the fact that some of the memory
doesn't run at a faster speed with that said it's it's like you buy a box of
cookies and 1/8 of the cookies is 17th
the size of all the other ones yeah like seven of them have like cream cheese
icing and like one of them has lard on it and it's like well you probably
weren't going to finish all seven of those because they're really rich and
delicious and big so the fact that one of them has lard on it shouldn't be an
issue to you but I that still bothers me
if I paid for eight cookies that are cream cheese icing yeah and if you put
it in the closet for future use when you
buy your larger stomach are you going to
work the wordof into here yeah yeah
that's proof that you haven't mastered the segue yet
oh but yeah essentially like I think part of the reason why I think a lot of
people didn't notice yet is I don't know that many or like anyone who's actually
really gaming at 4K all the time right now yep once that becomes more of a
thing a lot more people would have noticed a lot faster and maybe not I
actually I spent some time with the NC Tech tips guys today and they we filmed
a video about it there as well and they threw a bunch of games at their GTX 970
at 4K and we're kind of like let's see how much vram we use and what they
discovered is that until um Battlefield 4 they managed to get over three and a
half gigs at 4K yeah and what they
realized is that when it's it's it's that classic how much vram is the right
amount for a graphics card question because once you start just piling it
like if you put 16 gigs of memory on a GTX 970 that would be asinine because it
there's no way that any game that ever exists that would require 16 gigs of
vram would run on that GPU so what they
discovered is that running Battlefield 4 at 4K was resulting in such a low frame
rate that they had to turn the details down which brought the video memory
usage back into the comfort zone right
so I understand why owners are mad but I
understand NVIDIA's statement about the gtx970 still being a rock and awesome
product and we're not going to cut the price on it because it's still awesome
at that price and sorry about the miscommunication they need to be for the
rest of the 970s lifespan they need to be a lot more clear yep because just the
people that paid attention during this and like 6 to eight months down the line
when this isn't as well known because it's faded away it still needs to be
well known and NVIDIA rarely makes a mistake like this twice um I I feel like
over the last few Generations they've been trying to get you know flirtier and
and flirtier about sort of how things are actually working how the technology
Works behind the scenes I mean um arguably because they don't want their
competitors to learn too much about it and find a way to clone it in their next
you know lineup of gpus or or whatever else they're they're worried about but I
hope that this is a bit of a wakeup call that they have to at least clearly
communicate the speed at which the hardware is running to the members of
the tech press that are going to figure this out and call them on it anyway and
I've got a lot of people saying lonus come on don't defend them do I sound like I'm defending them devil zzz is
like lonus I am disappointed they didn't make a mistake they lied lying is
different from misrepresentation and I do believe that there had to be a
significant degree of unintentional
going on over here because there is absolutely no no way that NVIDIA
completely missed something like they have the wrong amount of cash on a spec
sheet intentionally there is something to be said about realizing that and then
not fixing it though well there's nothing they can really do to fix it
they can't add more cash no fixing it uh I don't mean in in in that but like not
notifying the public in any way right they waited for it to God my throat
today I thought I was better um they waited for it to blow up before trying
to contain it you know what I mean yeah I and the
thing is is that I'm not like I'm not sure how long of a delay there was
between NVIDIA realizing this and I
can't imagine it that long I don't think it was that long because the thing is is
that okay like the way this works behind the scenes is when you're launching a
product whether you're at the retailer side like I would have been or whether
you're on NVIDIA's side you've got everyone working around the clock to you
know get the gussied up pictures looking good and get the spec sheets all right
and get the you know the video you know scheduled to launch on YouTube at the
right time that's like Tom Peterson being all like oh the 970 is amazing so
the 980 it's even more amazing that's why I should pay more money for it um
and then when the launch is over everyone kind of
goes and then sits and and monitors and
makes sure everything's kind of going okay for a couple days and then it's
time to get back to work and there's something new to work on whether it's a
you know a g-sync you know monitoring
phase they probably didn't realize yet
cuz I had imagine okay think about think about this the engineers when you're if
you're an engineer yeah and your baby gets released yeah you're not going to
look into any of the release products from your company and the amount of
Engineers that must have worked on that the amount of Engineers that must have known the specs for that card and then
seen that release documentation I don't know the amount of not my job
that I've seen in my life I I got a Wonder like I really got a
Wonder I've got to imagine there's there's engineers at NVIDIA that care
enough to look into that documentation I'm I'm I'm willing to
assume to a large degree I'm not sure but I'm willing to assume to a very
large degree that there was at least some amount of internal communication
going on okay well whatever ended up happening
whatever CU I don't know cuz you can choose to
believe whatever you will but the reality of it is no one outside of
NVIDIA will ever know the truth the takeaways here are that they've got
their tail between their legs right now people are understandably extremely
upset I mean I've even seen I'd be pissed I don't have a 970 but I would be
pretty upset I I mean we've seen high level NVIDIA staff on Twitter promising
to help people get refunds on their cards if they're if they're that upset
about it um amds come out and offered uh
yeah Good Good Old Roy oh my God just shots everywhere yeah here I'll pull
this up uh AMD has has started offering
people deals on R9 290s with a full four
full 4 gigabyt of memory uh to anyone returning a
gtx970 good good Old Roy um does this
apply to Canadians 2 or am my so nope we love Canucks 2 oh man those guys kind of
funny actually so I guess what else is there
to really say about this other than people are people are people are butt
hurt which is why we were debating whether or not we can use that word and
we've decided apparently yes yeah yes we can because we're not relating it to
other things people are butt hurt their butt hurt because they got screwed and
how hard they got screwed well it's really difficult to say we're not
relating it to other things their butt hurt because they got
screwed damn it uh have you ever heard of something
called a quk screw oh if you were to stick that into your gluteus maximus
that would hurt that yes that yes all right so now that we've put that issue
to bed yes damn
it um always home free and then you're like
no I guess all that's really do you want to straw pull this like why don't we
just why don't we just what we what are we straw pulling straw pull um you know
H gee I don't know how about just let's straw pull misspelled it let's straw
pull how upset are you about gtx970 so
uh option one should be storm in a teacup which I've seen a lot of people
I've seen a lot of people use that exact wording for it and not to sort of sway
the results of the poll at all but I think that's a load of malarkey um so
you know six or let's go with I'm upset
but you know I'd still buy a
970 and then let's go with um upset
would not buy a 970 and then let's go with upset would not buy any NVIDIA
product anymore so we want we want to we want to cover the whole Spectrum here
and then we'll put in the usual like I don't know um cucumber diama or
whatever all right are you posting that in twitch chat yep all right I'll I'll
get the link from there so we'll
uh we'll go ahead to do straw P ones cuz you have to go to the results page sure
yeah no problem are you not logged in twitch why you do this to
me Monsters has to load the chat
separately because it's not running their own thing I'll load your chat
separately come on spinny wheel please Sarah please Sarah don't worry about it
is that the name of the spinny wheel no all right okay uh can you just Google
Google Chat it to me yeah I can do that I mean Hangouts it
that is not catchy at all it's like binging things like nobody Bings things
you want to hang out with me on my browser because no desktop application
or I guess there is but it's garbage yeah yeah so there's
that the chat never loaded wait what's
up oh my gosh you know that obnoxious BS
thing that Google does where if you rightclick um copy Link in the Google
search like you should control C control V there no no it it no no not that the
one where instead of just being the link it's a Google trackable link oh yeah
yeah uh so they've they're doing it in Hangouts now really so the link I posted
in here instead of just being straw poole. is like Google do whatever yeah
pretty pretty obnoxious whoa I've never see it's new whoa that's gross that's
really long like can you just not can you just actually stop doing that thank
you Google that would be great wow that's garbage like I see what website
I'm going to you butts all right speaking of butts um
upset but I'd still buy 970 I think this is the reaction NVIDIA is kind of hoping
for here is they I'm sure it is they know people are upset but
they kind of are like well the 970 is
still awesome so yeah uh two and you
know what's kind of funny is I remember thinking when the 970 launched that it
was so close to 980 and yet the price
Gap was so big it's almost like whoever
was doing pricing knew that they were
cutting it down a lot more than whoever was doing technical marketing yeah if
that makes sense yeah yeah that actually does make sense so a lot of uh a lot of
cucumber diarama um a lot of upset would
not buy a 970 a lot of storm in a teacup uh not a lot of butt hurt and uh
surprisingly little upset would not buy any NVIDIA product I bet you a large
amount of that um is people that weren't going to anyways yep AMD guys I mean to
imagine that we have fewer than 7% sort of team red members in our audience
would be completely ignorant of us so yes all right we've spent enough of this
show on butts and this topic so let's move on to
NVIDIA is in another bundle of hot water
can you have a bundle of hot water um so
this well I guess if you had like a waterproof Satchel of some
sort so that was in a bundle I'm going to go ahead and post this link in the
chat like if you had a waterproof jacket B Boop oh right I have to spam it now
all right so this was uh a great little discussion on the PC per YouTube channel
as well as uh on an article on pcp.com but there were reports running around
and this was post by m
mvi m mkin sure mkin on the Forum and uh
there were reports on the internet of some guy uh sorry did you yeah I posted
already of some guy like supposedly modifying a GT uh a GTX
980m notebook to run g-sync on its
integrated panel and I saw the rumors
late at night and I kind of didn't have time to look into it and I kind of
forgot about it which is kind of embarrassing because I really should have looked into this it's a huge deal
but PC per ran out a ained that exact
model of notebook got their hands on the
driver that the guy supposedly modded turns out they didn't mod anything it
was just uh it was an alpha level driver
that someone in ASUS's like Nordic
support team or something gave to a customer to try to fix a different
unrelated issue and then they had the desync notification pop up in the corner
and it turned out that it worked yeah um so so that's how that driver got leaked
out there and basically what they did was they took the laptop verified that
it worked and it did so NVIDIA's pendulum demo works perfectly you go
vsync on no vsync you get your tearing you go gsync and you get no stutter and
no tear and then they completely tore the laptop apart piece by piece and they
claimed to have pictures in their article but I'm going to go ahead and uh
here we go so they completely tore apart I tried to get Ryan on the show today
actually but I think he he's I think his
wife told him he couldn't come or something like that so uh wow you guys
can give him a hard time about that on Twitter but they they tore this baby
apart even peel back the LCD examined every component there is no gsync module
so this raises a lot of questions about NVIDIA's communication with respect to
gsync as well because they've been telling us we need a special module to
communicate with the graphics card and obviously the same is not true for free
sync or for adaptive sync the Vasa spec
upon which free sync AMD's equivalent is
based because AMD is not making any claims about having a special module the
only thing they're saying is they have to have a GPU that supports it correctly
so NVIDIA's been telling us we need this module and that it does some stuff like
it goes ahead and compares the data from the previous frame to the data on the
next frame with a little built-in buffer and they uh actually PC Pur discussion
of this whole thing says that nidia's claiming they have some additional
functionality they can potentially unlock with the gsync module in the future we don't know if this is true we
don't know if it's untrue we don't know anything right now but um basically
there is no g-sync module and this raises questions about well why exactly
did we need a g-sync module in the first place I'm going to bring up some things
first of all this is very much one of those things that I um well okay this is
actually not very much but a little bit one of those things that I don't like where it's heavily kind of it's not a
rumor because we know officially fromia but it's so early on and there's been
one call and there's a ton of speculation they're like okay it exists
let's tear apart this one laptop and then not find something and then slam
them for it which is Justified definitely to a certain degree but a lot
of the things that are being said including by you I don't think are necessarily fair not necessarily needed
a g-sync module they may no longer need a g-sync module so and
and NVIDIA's claim that they will be able to add more functionality with a
gsync module with its own built-in memory buffer and all that stuff could
be very true yes that could be 100% true
and 100% valid in fact it could be that mobile g-sync which for power reasons
and complexity reasons may never use a g-sync module it could be that mobile
gsync may not be as good as desktop GYN
in the long term GYN M or something it could be an entirely different version
um and that would make a ton of sense as well like we're I I feel like because
we're pitchforking I'm using pitchforking because I don't know what
the chat's doing but those look like pitchforks those are pitchforks um because we're pitchforking NVIDIA so
heavily for the 970 thing we just immediately started re pitchforking them
for this one before gaining a ton of information was an early driver that
that frankly doesn't work correctly I mean actually again shout from PC per
did a great job of covering this because they even talk about like guys look it's
not working we did manage to dis they did manage to discover that the panel on
this laptop actually is a 100 HZ IPS panel which I certainly didn't realize
it's rated at 75 and we've got one of these laptops as well and so that's
super cool but then they also discovered that it's running with g-sync but uh
when you go particularly when the frame rate drops or drastically dips and it's
funny they used Assassin's Creed Unity to demo that but when it drastically
dips it can actually cause the screen to disconnect temporarily or even for a
while so it's it's not working yet and
their speculation based on the conversation with NVIDIA is that mobile
gsync Bas because we've got better
scaler technology now than we did back when NVIDIA was developing gsync and
this whole thing didn't exist yet is that mobile gsync may end up being more
of a certification yeah process similar
to the free sync idea as opposed to just Hardware now to be clear the one of the
differences between the way AMD works and the way NVIDIA works is that AMD has
a freesync certification process but that doesn't mean that a monitor that
has the supported Hardware but does not have the certification will not work we
had this conversation with Theus where they didn't intend to certify one of
their monitors but we have heard I don't
have one of those monitors yet that freesync works on it just fine with
NVIDIA I would not expect that to be the case because that's the way they
function they validate a use case
thoroughly and then they put their stamp of this is the experience you will have
on it and that is how they control their ecosystem s stuff like GTX 770 and GTX
680 they're the exact same damn card
with the exception of the GTX 770 has faster clocked memory there is no reason
why the GTX 770 couldn't have its memory clocked down and run an SLI with a GTX
680 at least without you know extensive
tweaking of firmwares and drivers or whatever else to make it work there's no
real reason those couldn't run an SLI that's not the way NVIDIA does things
AMD on the other hand allows Crossfire to run on an r9280x and a 7970 or a 7970
GHz Edition all of which are sort of
different cards although they're based on the same GPU with the same memory
configuration in much the same way that 770 and 680 are
so it's a different philosophy I mean another great example NVIDIA slii
requires an SLI certified board even
though there's no technical reason it couldn't work on any board as we've seen
with hacked drivers in the past and requires 8X PCIe operation regardless of
the fact that that doesn't matter PCIe
gen 34x is plenty fast for SLI with a modern card you can quote me on that but
NVIDIA doesn't allow it they say look 8X is the is the minimum that's what we
validate for so that's it that's final
so the mobile g-sync one I think the takeaway is we need to wait and see we
need to wait and see I don't think they lied I think they wanted desktop gsync
in our hands a lot sooner hence the event that happened like months and
months and months before we actually got our hands on retail monitors um and I
think in that time a development happened a lot faster than NVIDIA
expected on on the on the third party scalers that could be implemented in
monitors for another solution like adaptive syn and I I think this this was
not supposed to be talked about yet this was an accidental leak that turned into
a now kind of huge thing and as we've
seen from freaking star seon when you have uh fan interaction before something
is ready it's sometimes ugly so that's
why I brought up the rumor thing at the beginning no it's not a rumor
but we just kind of need to wait until
we get like an official working driver
um stuff supplied from them to be like yes try this experience and see what
it's like um yeah I think we're going
wait and figure it out and I think like you were saying that there's going to be
different g-sync there'll be g-sync mobile and Gynt and there going to be I
think very different experiences especially because they explicitly said
that there's features that they still have to unlock on the actual g-sync
module and there's no doubt in my mind whatsoever that NVIDIA is developing a
better g-sync module than the one they have I mean back when they did the event
before it even launched they said look this solution's really expensive and
produces a lot of power we need to shrink it down and I'm sure they haven't
been sitting on their butts for the last year and a half so yeah I mean I'd
expect to see a gsync module that allows for more inputs than just DisplayPort
for example cuz that's like stupid you buy a $1,000 monitor with one in I come
on it's not like NVIDIA hasn't thought of this maybe it should have HDMI in or
something be helpful for like like yeah I mean they're the only video card maker
in the market with HDMI 2.0 on their graphics cards and then their own
display controller doesn't accept HDMI 2.0 in it doesn't make any sense many
monitors that I use on a daily basis have more than one of their inputs plugged in so I can swap between inputs
that's that's a thing so the exciting thing here is that mobile g-sync is
coming uh the unfortunate thing is owner of the g751 I doubt very much that
they're actually going to get it because it looks like this is a very Alpha thing
right now but um very cool stuff I I I
wish that NVIDIA was more upfront with us I understand why in their competitive
clo and Dagger industry they're not but
I don't understand how people in the chat are trying to say that this is an NVIDIA sponsored stream when have we
been not slamming on them this stream anyways sorry keep going that was stream
is sponsored by Squarespace uh Loot Crate and I fix it I just thought I'd
clarify that you know what let's do our sponsor spot I'm excited about mobile
gsync but I think that can that can actually wait so let's start with
Squarespace these guys are kind of crazy
this is the second time they have done a Super Bowl commercial so I'm going to
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from them now that I'm we had this last week did we well I don't know how much I
like it I think it should go for a little while
and then stop yeah maybe okay wow they
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like the lines turn into the letters and the dots turn into the two
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lost track of what you were talking about that's cool because you got that set up I'm gonna go ahead and uh and
play this so this is their this is their Super Bowl commercial teaser I love
we're in the corner listening to intriguing sounds
when I drift off into my
dreams others might
you don't have audio right now do you I've I've seen this oh yeah okay I told
you before that I listened to the whole album and everything so um You released a whole
album on Squarespace have you seen have you seen any of this yeah yeah so um you
can you can hear Jeff's album so this is Jeff Bridges the dude from the big
Labowski it's super weird it is actually
super bizarre now something I didn't know about this Pro so his site is
obviously built with Squarespace and he's collaborating with Squarespace on
this Super Bowl ad and and all that stuff but what I didn't realize is that
this isn't some weird contrived Squarespace thing this is something Jeff
Bridges was legitimately working on um
this Ikea one is pretty bizarre yeah so you can buy the album
digitally and the proceeds go to no kid
hungry which is pretty cool or you can buy a physical copy if you're into that
sort of thing when I die there will be no I think the proceeds this
could I have contracted with space Mater
toor my remains aboard an etern a
satellite so I'm not actually sure that any of this would help me sleep any
better than um than I otherwise would on
own there's parts of it that would cuz there's parts of it where he isn't talking but parts of it where it gets
super bizarre a lot of his speech stuff though is is intended to make you uh
dream about weird things that will throw you into a dream state like there's
there's reasoning behind a lot I don't know if it would work for me there I'm
just saying so you can get an LP or cassette even if you want yeah you get a
golden LP or a normal LP or a cassette or I think digital I don't even know if
you can get a CD so we've talked enough about Jeff Bridges and his like Jeff
Bridges project that's going on over here sleeping tapes we'll talk a little
bit about Squarespace so they allow you to make your own website that's scalable
fast runs great on your desktop it runs great on mobile phones they've got a
bunch of great templates all that stuff they have that super annoying jingle
that I think about every single time I do a Squarespace spot uh oh is that site
up yeah it's terrible I'm still working on it oh okay we'll show we'll show it
later okay um oh and I'll save actually got a one of okay I got the best
testimonial we've ever gotten from anyone about a sponsor spot about
Squarespace so I I saved it and I'll uh I'll uh I'll I'll share that with you
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and pokers and knives and all kinds of
different driver bits and all kinds of cool stuff like that I basically I'm a
big fan of the iFixit tool kit before they came on and started sponsoring the
show I had already done an unboxing of their prot te tool kit that I had
purchased for myself that I use all the time and Nick's coming in here to tell
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it's still an amount of money and if you sign up for a whole okay if you sign up
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yeah it'll add up more yeah hey do you want to do the uh do you want to do the
webcam thing and we'll do our live unboxing we may actually do another live
unboxing on the show today oh dang people don't know what
that is D xps13 suckers so uh stay tuned for that
but yeah let's get the uh let's get the webcam going on here add camera let's do
the Logitech one cuz it doesn't suck it's way better yeah oh it's not in wide
screen why does it always forget okay well don't look at me they can already
see me look at my junk the junk in this
Loot Crate package um we do you have the software
for this software it's super easy to make it go into WID screen there's software oh for oh for I thought for The
Loot Crate I'm not too worried about it okay see it looks like a nest and then
there's the controller plugins and stuff oh that's cool yeah it looks like an
orange Nast do you know what's in here already uh maybe you cheated Nick cheated oh
Nick cheated oh that's right he did okay so we've got a lot crate rewind oh so
this is kind of like the YouTube Rewind concept where they pick like cool stuff
from like the previous year oh no it's just retro stuff yeah it's just rewind
in general oh rewind in general yeah all right so we got a shirt I haven't
actually seen the shirt there we go that's pretty nice I
love what a great values these things are cuz like even just a shirt is like
10 15 20 bucks a lot of the time to get like cool shirts with neat patterns on
them speaking of which lonus techtips has shirts available for
$19.99 more than a Loot Crate much more expensive than an entire Loot Crate
which also has other things in it a nice 8 bit glasses yeah and these are like
like UV protective like non- terrible ones cuz usually when you find 8bit
glasses they're like the garbage $5 like these ones suck eight bit glasses oh I
wouldn't give them too much credit that UV doesn't look like anything special
but they're better than any other apic glasses I've seen I will give them that
a yeah I might not have seen very great ones but they are better and they're
orange and black these are pretty cool actually
these these go pretty well with the lest
Tech tips thing that we got going on here the 8 bit shirt he needs 8 bit
glasses now yeah all right what else we got in here sweet it's shaped like a
nest cartridge what is it it's like a dude you have to build it really yeah
so analog retro inspired products yeah
take it out so there's your your cartridge but then you he has like feet
and stuff which is in there oh so he's
like a little guy we should do this like we should have the the cameraman like
pre-research products then you just do unboxings for them so it's like Linus's
discoveries but the cameraman knows what's actually happening yeah so if
you're confused about anything I can be like hey yeah no it's this it's cool and
then you can be like waa that's super cool cool L's First Impressions plus
knowledge The Best of Both Worlds yeah
and then you you can put like the gun in his hand I did actually figure that out
on my own thank you yeah I just wasn't sure okay oh sweet it's a light gun yeah
nice and like it it's often not like
this is kind of Back to the Future um if
you can see the like like it's Back to
the Future e and and then the the other one that we had was a doctor who styled
one so they're not necessarily Nest games but they're
necessarily oh I didn't even plan that one out oh dang all right what we got
here this I actually don't know what it is black tie
geek okay when you when you do the like established thing it needs to be not
like two years ago yeah um I'm assuming this is just a clip
on tie oh look at that is it oh no it's an actual tie tie tie and it's kind of
cool I always forget and this is embarrassing how much are loot crates
again I don't know I don't think they're
very much though that's not bad that's pretty cool
that's like a a decent tie that's fun I
would wear that look at that space invader's tie yeah I think it's a little
thin for you unfortunately no thin ties are a thing oh are they a thing yeah I'm
not fashionable I I'm not either so they might not be a thing anymore they were a
thing at at some point
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with the uh now this is I thought this was really cool be careful it's a I'm
going to go and make it worthless what all right that's actually probably valid
you might as well show them yeah I might as well have a look at what's going on in here see I'm a Star Wars geek so you
can kind of get my attention with Star Wars stuff all right well it's starting
off about like I might have expected okay
huh that's fun I wonder is this like a
is this like a copyright infringement thing if we read a comic book on
stream I'm not reading a comic book like
I don't know what you're talking about let's players would argue it's not look that's the audio setup that's not fully
set up yeah I know right all right so
thank you to our sponsors the Squarespace Loot Crate and I fix it for
making the W show possible let's move on to our next topic
which is I have no idea I don't know we actually have a lot of topics left and
there's like do we half an hour left cool so cuz all we've made it through is
it's like the NVIDIA and people you want
to slam on EA yeah it's been so long
yeah what did EA do oh yeah that's awesome yeah okay oh I can't contrl F EA
I'll control F micro transaction wrecked
uh this was posted by and then there was one on the Forum have you posted in
twitch I'm ready I'm ready I got this
all right contr v wait what oh I think I did it wrong
wait really oh Google freaking Google Docs does it now too oh really
yeah jeez guys you're killing me here
all right well it's from Android police and EA that's why I haven't noticed I
always do it that way I open the website and then I link it all right EA will be
charging for gas in the ironically named
Need for Speed Unlimited or No Limits excuse me no limits which is totally
different from unlimited um so basically well I don't
know cell phone companies might actually agree with you unlimited for cell phone
companies is 2,000 whereas No Limits might be
something else entirely no no no no oh no no limits is
actually 500 no no there's no limit when
you advance and you're a cell phone provider oh it's a 90 song You Don't
recognize it do you no I kind of do oh that's a shame all right well at any
rate um the brand tough Meter whatever that oh this
is a different language fuel fuel meter I was like what are you trying to
read I haven't read the rest of it yet um so basically you can use in-game
currency to buy gas for your car or you can sit and wait for your gas to refuel
on its own which is exactly how the real world works I'm sure someone
someone on the team was like how will we make people feel like microtransactions
are a more natural part of gameplay wait racing okay so you can buy things for
your car everyone needs to fuel their car bam instant success executive
promotion one thing that executive promotion one thing that I'm not
entirely sure about because I couldn't really find it and watch it be in the
article but um wow people are doing the Pitchfork thing and then putting an A on
the end so it's a pit EA Pitchfork because it would normally have the e
already cuz the that's awesome um
Pitchfork not instead of digging so oh
EA pitchforks Ubisoft digs eventually
we'll have a full Farm of game
developers NVIDIA back
hos shovels weren't fast enough for them this
week yeah um anyways I I think it might
be a free-to-play game yeah in which case that's totally expected because
that's how every single free to-play game works ever and this isn't new yeah
it's just annoying yes it is annoying one thing that I kind of found was funny
though is that they still used
gold like what like you you couldn't use like like
Karma or something I know need for speed's done that before haven't they
wasn't it karma I know I don't no I don't Kudos I haven't played Need for
Speed since underground that's probably a good
choice so right there underground was pretty good yeah it was underground was
great what game was it that used Kudos maybe it was a different game maybe I'm
thinking of a different racing game twitch chat's going to slam and all
right well end gadgets article here the
FCC redefines
Broadband I'm a little confused on this topic I thought they already did this no
they were talking about it and it was looking like it was going to go through
so now it's like totally definitely through yes it's done okay it's done but
the truth of the matter is this doesn't really change anything because it's not
like it's not like the Telos have to
start giving you 25 megabit down they just can't call their crapp Broadband
anymore yes that's the only change this only changes in America um one of one of
the folks that was uh that was voting on the issue said something or oh I hope
she was one of the people voting control F 100 uh FCC commissioner
Jessica Rosen Mor still stated today that she thinks the BR Broadband
threshold should frankly be 100 megabit per second a move would finally put the
United States in line with the Speedy connections available in countries like South Korea so was 25 enough some would
argue no um I would probably agree especially if we're trying to call like
Broadband what's the what's the implication here yeah and a big problem
with this too is when's the next time we're going to redefine this not for a
long time so it should have been a lot higher 4K TVs are affordable today and
25 megabit down is not going to be especially with the kind of data cap
that's going to come with that speed of connection is not enough for you to be
watching your 4K Netflix all day mind you if you're watching 4K Netflix all
day I mean what do they have like four shows in 4k I mean you probably watch a
lot of the same shows slick as sick slick as
sick there we go what do you mean he says he's going to start a monthly
subscription if you say that till what uh probably the Forum Netflix The Forum
oh The Forum oh okay so now he has to
contraction comp or contraction contract
completed contract completed what are you a Hitman I just I
I saw video game mechanics in twitch chat and I had to like I was it was like
Quest acquired say this twice and I was like sure completed the quest contract
completed he now has to go sign up on the Forum boom done all right so we
haven't done some of the uh credits for people posting things on the Forum the
Bony King posted at least one of the bazillion topics on the Forum related to
the NVIDIA thing Carlos Rex also in there the m night narwhal was in there
somewhere Sergeant ballistic posted the FCC thing and top war gamer posted this
next one the original article here is from Venture beat so let's go ahead and
drop that in the twitch chat we'll drop
that drop that drop that that Venture
beat God one thing that's been
constantly confusing about this article for me is they didn't drop uh Flash no
but they changed the def fault yeah but like the title is freaking dropped like
I saw this everywhere before I read it and like the title everywhere is oh they
dropped Flash and I'm like wow that's a really aggressive move this is going to
be a lot of like older stuff that's Flash and it's not going to work at all
it's like how you're intended to read the title yeah how the title actually oh
wait that by default just like kind of hitched on the back I'm like okay
sure all right so um this brings with it
a few sign significant advantages so number one and this is going to be great
for folks who had their nonb Broadband
redefined but haven't actually had their speeds increased uh we are going to get
adaptive bit rate streamings to quickly and seamlessly adjust resolution and bit
rate depending on the network connection uh media Source extension so oh that was
what I just said uh the vp9 video Codec will be used Which is higher quality
video and an average bandwidth decrease of 35%
um okay encrypted media extension soel lets content providers use a single HTML
5 video player across a wide range of platforms web RTC so realtime
communication lets internet users communicate in real
time oh my God this is amazing uh so using a
compatible browser from broadcasting tools from within the browser and full
screen API immersive full screen experiences with a standard HTML
interface cool so HTML 5 is doing what
it's supposed to be doing making the web seamless and good and content rich just
generally better yeah this isn't this might not be new for everyone because I
know a lot of people have been using uh Force HTML 5 and Firefox for a long time
and various other Solutions and various other browsers but it's always cool when
they change defaults y because there's a lot of people that aren't going to
change the defaults on things and they didn't just change the default on Chrome
which has been kind of a Google thing it's like Yay the latest experience if
you use Chrome haha uh they've changed it on Chrome i11 Safari 8 and beta
versions of Firefox which knowing Firefox that means you'll have it pretty
soon yeah you know what I was using um uh my
wife uses Firefox still as her default browser and so I was using her computer
and I went to search for something and I was like WTF Yahoo search and then I was
like oh right yeah that it's fine it
yeah yeah I told you about that I know I didn't I I didn't believe you yes but uh
but is terrible and like immediately Yahoo is powered by Bing in the back end
how is this possible mind explosion and Bing is apparently uh why is Bing so
crap Bing judging by Google Blog which I
don't really know if is actually Google or not at this point uh is bang is
apparently stealing from Google but that was a long time ago maybe they're not
anymore not that long ago and like the the the way that they figured it out was
actually really good it was like the old cartographer trick thing you put the
fake town and then you see if other people copy your fake town is the same
idea they put a completely fake search thing and then they searched it on Bing
and it came up with the same thing that Google did and it was totally fake it
was to some like random website that had nothing to do with the string that they
typed in it was nowhere on the website and then it showed up on Google because
they Implement implanted it there and it showed up on Bing as well so apparently
Bing was stealing stuff from Google okay apparently Yahoo officially takes things
from Bing so like it's all possibly
flooding down from Google but then the other ones aren't as usable why is it
that Bing's results are always so bloody useless then I don't know and I
installed Windows 10 I told you that for a little while Cortana was garbage
completely ignoring the fact that she like is never able to do anything so
forcibly opens a new tab and Bing searches it which is the least elegant
way of doing that like if you don't know the answer please just don't answer or
tell me that you don't know don't be like I'm going to just open either a new
window if you don't have one open or and like force it to the front or I'll open
a new tab force that to the front of everything that you're doing and just
Bing search it which will never give me the right results but yeah her her
ability to pick up speech is very bad in my opinion I don't know that was a
terrible experience but hopefully they fix it hopefully Timmy Tech's watching
because he was he was not super happy when I was complaining about Cortana but
it's garbage so there you go there's my there's my overall impression if you
don't if you want to do anything other than like start playing a random music
on your computer there's no point in having that's something that you know what's funny is I found after our
discussion last week about uh voice control and where we got all annoyed
with each other I'd say that was probably about our fourth best our
fourth best on camera Tiff um yeah I was
I was using I think voice control is extremely important yeah yeah yeah I don't want to have will be great the
point is this week I found myself using it a fair bit and uh and using it for
things where it was really useful and then using it for things where it was
totally rubbish and the funny thing about that is one of the experiences I
had with it where I was just like yeah this is never going to be useful for this was playing music and you were I
remembered you telling me well no the the the only reason why it was useful
was you just say hey C Cortana can you play some music well yeah but I could do
that play Okay Google Play
Music and it's like here we go I'm going to play music and it's like what what M
what music are you playing do I do I even want to listen to that oh I don't
want my twitch stream turned off wait stop okay Google don't play
music whoa that worked oh no you paus it finger okay I was like holy crap one
thing that's really annoying with Cortana too is you know how with um like
Okay Google or Okay Google now yeah it it will hey shut
up it will hear you and then go like B
and then you respond to it right like it's it's it hears you lets it lets you
know that it heard you and then you respond this is how a conversation works
it's fairly natural with Cortana which is supposed to be like talking to your
computer you have to communicate like me yeah like yeah there's no there's no
Gap C to do this yes yeah and if you don't it's like what was that and then
turns off the mic what are you kidding
me what was that I'm just not going to listen to you and the thing stays up and
like the circle stops spitting but just sits there and I'm like are you are you
are you still listening the next big step for natural interaction with voice
control has to be angry interaction yeah
shut the hell up and your phone has to stop doing everything it's doing and
shut up yes that should be a thing when that happens then we'll talk again hey
Cortana stop that should be like a yeah that
should work that should definitely work and like there needs there needs to be
more settings especially for the desktop one because man having it open a window
or a tab and bringing it to front and being searching something not cool and
like it again if you if it didn't know the answer I'd be totally fine with that
if it was like uh sorry I don't know I'd
be like okay I'll go open a tab and I'll
freaking thing in when I want it when I want to which is probably not now if I'm
busy with something and you're going to Bing search the whole point of using voice control was I had stuff to do yes
yeah like so I'll do that later and I'll use Google so go
away um politicians are supporting
Comcast's Time Warner Cable merger with
letters ghost written by Comcast yay United
States we should be interesting to be a politician sometimes because
like the people that are paying you to do things don't even trust you enough to
do them so they just do it for you so do you actually have to do anything don't
they have like 33 days off or 33 weeks off couldn't be I don't
Congress or something has something insane I don't remember what it I don't remember what it is but it's a lot and
then like when they do decide to actually go to work it's like oh well
this was Ghost written by someone else so just there you go I'll just sign it and put our official you know letter
head on it and all that stuff so basically um email correspondence was
obtained through a public records request so nothing special uh showed
that the letter from the mayor of Rosewell Georgia was actually written by
a VP of external Affairs at Comcast the letter was part of what Comcast called
an outpouring of thoughtful and positive comments about the controversial merger
um this was money of many letters that were the same or similar in origin and
neither the corporation nor the states that the officials represent made any
attempt to notify the public that the corporation had any role in writing the
letters um so this got me thinking sorry
I'm going to completely change gears I don't think we really need to have a long conversation about how this is BS
and needs to not happen so here's what I was
thinking what if we brought politics
into the 21st century
so I run for office just wait I run for
office buy gas hold on hold on okay I
just thought you you know the campaign bus you could buy gas for the campaign anyway sorry keep going okay so I run
for office with the campaign promise
that every day when I wake up in the morning with the exception of when I go
to the bathroom or am being intimate with my wife or whatever the case may be
I wear a GoPro seriously a streaming GoPro a
streaming GoPro so if anyone wants to know
anything that I any Shady underhanded
dealings that I was participating easy though oh I'm with my wife again and
just go to a meeting okay but I think people were going to figure out that
like I'm at the office and someone goes bing bong and I'm like oh it's my wife I
mean that that's inexplicable right there what's my wife doing at work why
are we having relations in the middle the day at the office well maybe you
maybe her name is Monica Lewinsky I don't
yeah I don't know I I have to imagine it would be too easy to get around but it
is an interesting idea it's completely impractical for a lot of different
reasons you know there's all the privacy concerns I like what they're doing with
the the police where they're getting the police to wear the cameras and all that
kind of stuff I think that's cool I don't know if it makes sense for your
president for someone like a president obviously not cuz there's a lot of top
secret stuff but for someone like a municipal official I can't imagine
they're doing anything top secret I see no reason why people shouldn't have a
live feed to the conversation we're having about why the toll on this bridge
is so bloody much and you're doing this other stupid thing with the taxpayers
money I do think that should be a thing and every like like the municipality of
whatever on their website they should just have an area where you can click on
it just has a log of all the videos they just have a YouTube account and just
every meeting every every Gathering of people that they have just whatever just
stream it but I I just I was thinking some dude is going to be interesting the
social media politician would be a really interesting New Concept well the
social media astronaut is a big deal right now so the social media politician
would also make a ton of sense and certain politicians have done that to a
degree some of them have done it a little bit but I think they I think they
no one's really outed themselves over controversial decisions that they've had
to make or they've been involved in whereas I think the true social media
politician would have to just say and and you know what they'd end up they'd
end up getting kicked out immediately like we knew this was going to happen but it would be an interesting
experiment because it would be like you know blah blah blah had this
conversation blah blah blah obviously doesn't understand the issue and then
the next day you know when it turns out that other person was right they'd have to be yep turns out you know I was
completely wrong this like if we actually had a stream of Consciousness
feed that'd be interesting I actually wouldn't mind that because one thing
that I think is a little all right apparently Rand Paul is doing this who
the devil is Rand Paul got to be American that's an American yeah yeah
some dude said that he's going to sign up as a contributor to The Forum for a
year if I say AMD eats NVIDIA so I just said that thanks for your wow that you
you could be a politician Contrition you know yeah I don't know that could work I
could rally for more internet and better
better computer Labs and high schools
and yeah stuff like that investment less into
Hollywood and more tweets fake phone call between Jeb Bush and someone fake
phone call that wasn't I think really what we meant by all of
this slams Bush hypocrisy on something
something anyway um I think I think the the like the video feed of meetings
would be really interesting like if we could if we could just see what complete
idiots a lot of these people are um I think that would heavily affect
voting all right so let's move on uh Cooler Master is doing the case mod
World Series and this was it's actually you know what's really funny is the most
unusual thing about the case mod World Series was
um I I keep like someone that I used to
work with at ocz started like favoring my tweets and replying to stuff that I
was saying all of a sudden I was like what the what the devil does Jess want all of a sudden we haven't talked in
like 2 years and uh and it turns out that ocz is one of the sponsors of the
case mod World Series I was like oh okay she's following the stuff that I'm
saying about this so what's cool about this is that you've got about a week to
enter so not a whole lot of time but
unlike a lot of the other modding contests where it's like yeah we've got
great prizes of Hardware that the top modders have unlimited access to uh this
one has some prizes provided by Dremel which is a little unusual like tool
companies get involved in like car modding stuff but generally not in
computering stuff so this is like a whole other level of acknowledgement
that's super cool the community's never seen Dremel is a big deal in the PC
Community but like the fact that they're acknowledging that they're a big deal in
PC Community is actually kind of cool that's really neat and the other really
cool thing about this one is anyone can register and unlike most case moding
competitions that I've seen um there are different tiers so you don't have to
compete against heavyweights if you're a beginner modder so um so yeah you guys
should check it out how do the tear work it's mod. coolermaster decom I think
there's about $25,000 in prizes uh up to
$2,000 cash prize so first place X1
second place X1 Tower builds uh scratch
build people's choice Rising Star so
there's a new category where our judges select the most promising young star in
the modding scene so someone who's relatively unknown very very cool so
there you go there's a bunch of cool stuff mod. master.com
they've got the winners from last year this isn't the first time they've done it it's sponsored by Intel ASUS Cooler
Master presumably although this is funny they're logo is not down
here I mean they have one up here but like sponsored by and Cooler Master is
not on your Cooler Master case mod World Series sponsored by these guys hey we're
a media partner that's cool Nick does all kinds
of things some days I'm not sure what it is
but you're not the First Media partner no apparently bit tech.net is first damn
you
bitn bit man then I said dot neck we're
not doing great right now did you have another one of those
weeks bit
neck no actually oh that makeup uh
pirate B staff kicked from the website no one caught that one now in Revolt
well I did I show up to the office and he's getting
he's getting our makeup artist who's actually here to make us up as Paul and
Kyle applying makeup to his neck I'm like gee I'm sure glad you're using
company resources for your covering up your personal
time all right so go watch this and just be like
a so this article is from Torrent freak.com Pirate Bay won't make a full
comeback staff revolt so basically some
admins and mods on the Pirate Bay are butt hurt we've decided that word is
okay to use over the fact that um they
basically have been shown the door with the new lighter Pirate Bay that figures
it doesn't need a whole lot of Staff in order to do its thing yes and as someone
who at least knows the administrator for
a fairly popular but not nearly as well trafficked as the piratebay.com orse or
whatever it is they're doing these days site I will say that they are probably
right yeah although I'm sure they're like comment moderation wait wrong
they're probably wrong that they don't need people that's what I meant to say
yes yeah yeah I'm sure their like comment moderation and stuff is not
really like I bet you most of those guys are mainly focused on just keeping the
website alive more than anything like I bet you it's it's slightly different
than what we do so basically um the the
guys that are splitting off are going to make their own site with Blackjack and
hookers presumably and uh basically they have a backup of the
Pirate Bay site before it went offline and they're just going to start their
own thing the the seemingly lead guy behind it the WTC swe is very openly
very mad yeah something along the L pretty golden quotes horse plop or
something yeah you know Brandon do you know the number of
times I've had the conversation with him about how bleeping works online as Tech
tips he left the word h [ __ ] I know in one of our episodes recently he's like
well I didn't know I was supposed to bleep that whereas he bleeped ass in the
Stormtrooper rap and I'm just like TV
rules Man TV rules you watch TV he's
like I watch HBO and I'm like but one am
I one of I I still don't understand this about our censorship which you think is
okay I still don't okay we're going to straw pull this cuz I know where you're
going I'm going to straw pull this if you're if you're saying a word
and like let's say it's f u c k and you say you you can fully hear someone say
you can fully hear someone say F and then you hear them start the U like uh
and then they drag it out for a long time and you bleep and then the bleep
goes away before the U is done being said so f u uh bleep uh c k so you def
obvious what you said you definitely hear every single part of the word there
is zero if you cut out the bleep it is the full
word and it was pronounced remember we're talking a one syllable word here
in this case where it's like okay so here here's the straw pull guys so we're
talking a one syllable word so but you're not even you're you're if you
have the the sound of the first letter and the sound of the last letter there's
it's obviously going to be clear what you were intending to say which I
maintain is is the correct type of censorship because you're not actually
trying to take away the meaning of what the person's saying you are just trying
to make it so you didn't word like the U or the c or or both I mean like you
didn't even chop out the middle of the word you didn't even fully chop out one
letter well I think the issue with the one that you're all butur about is that
it was a beep over top of the audio track instead of cutting the audio track
during the beep so that's part of why you could hear it so very well okay I'm
talking about more than one but that is probably that was probably the the one
that me to start talking about it yeah it looks like people are divided 5050 on
this issue well see so we're both right are exactly aligned with how we should
be part of this is I bet you some people are saying that it oh bleep middle of
the word bleep the whole word yeah see I bet you the people that are saying bleep the middle of the word again it's not
you're not bleeping the middle of the word that's part of the problem you you
you didn't bleep out a whole letter yeah like like there was it it was not
effectively bleeped at all and then there's some people that are going to argue that it just shouldn't be bleeped
and like there's yeah I left that out because I was more interested in how it
should be bleeped as opposed to that you know the I think we can all see a lot of
people in chat are saying no bleep and like that that has its own Merit but I'm saying if you're going to anyways you
might as well do it effectively instead of just but not cutting any I would make
the opposite argument you might as well not do it effectively because I don't
think we need to censor the word anyway if you're going to say the word say the word and to me the bleep is like the
bleep is like appeasing the censorship deities that's all it is uh okay see if
that's the goal then that's fine then that's fine goal that's all I want to do
cuz I don't really care about the censorship stuff either and but I think we can all agree the wrong way to do it
is the way we did it on Stormtrooper rap where the music it cuts the that was not
how that was no was I know why there were time constraints yeah yeah
basically I know why it was a problem but yeah that wasn't that wasn't the
right way to do that that was a draft that was a draft of the song that was
was never the finished version yeah um
wow we have a lot of stuff left does
does any of it matter yeah um The
Witcher 3 stuff is all kind of bull why don't we just do kind of headlines sure
so there's new evidence of Counter-Strike Global Offensive match fixing not surprising so basically CSG
go is a gigantic pile of garbage right
now in the competitive scene and we should all be completely ignoring it
because there's match fixing there's cheating at the very highest level and
until valve can get their game figured out basically quit yeah until the
tournament organizers can figure out how to fix this it just needs to completely
go away and all these people involved in this crap need to stop making money
which is a real shame because for the honest players out there this is their
livelihoods that are being damaged by the actions of others which is UN out
there I mean it's it's kind of like if honest YouTubers like us that are making
a living by making YouTube videos um all of a sudden have the credibility of
YouTube as a platform damaged by other people who are I mean I can't imagine
what you could do on YouTube that would be equivalent to this but but it it's
totally unfair and it's crappy but until
people vote with their wallets and just don't watch and just don't get involved
it's not going to go away uh so that was posted on the Forum
by Rahi Kumar SP speaking of Rahi Kumar
SP he also post posted that Bill Gates
tricked Jimmy Fallon into drinking poop water which is a bit sensationalist as
far as headlines go but this is a great segment and we're just going to play it
for you guys it's awesome hopefully CH it down a little
bit it's yeah yeah yeah it's like four minutes I'm going to skip to the uh the stunning conclusion so basically um
Bill's talking or Mr Gates is talking about um hold on we have to get the
Princess Bride uh sequence in here um so
is talking about this water purification system where um it's inexpensive and
produces both electricity and clean water from sewage so um Mr Gates
challenges Mr Fallon here to choose whichever glass he prefers one of which
he says has poop water and one of which has regular bottled water so oh you
can't oh you can't see that he's not looking he's just like look I don't I
don't I don't I don't know I I trust you to be a good person and give me the
glass with the with the non poop water
yeah so they both drink I'm going to turn the audio on
here what do you think which one did you
get making sure that you drank it all
right no no I I I this one actually tasted pretty good you just drank yours
cheers you watched this right I actually didn't oh it's great wow I didn't just
cuz I I I knew what the conclusion was going to be but I probably should watch
I'm pretty confident that that was this was the bottle of water I
didn't realize I did a spr thing which is really was all all poop
water so there you go guys the whole thing the whole thing was poop water um
always falls off his chair he does that like all the
time uh but basically it tastes fine
it's perfectly safe looks absolutely fantastic um Mr Gates wants to get this
rolled out in Africa as widely and as quickly as
possible um it's much much less expensive I mean
it's not like technology doesn't exist like this already today I mean it's it's space station where do you think they're
getting water from recycling uh your TAP where do you think
you're getting water from recycling so
just I mean it's not a new idea it's just this new inexpensive omn processor
way is uh I know someone who works at a water recycling planted BCS less
expensive who does I know someone who does you don't know them yeah probably
gross yeah gross me out to see what they're doing but it is what it is I've
been near their work disgusting yeah
yeah doesn't smell good what else we got Witcher three footage is out obvious
texture downgrade from the old videos so uh this was posted by death Jester on
the for that's a great name for someone posting about something like this yes
it's like serious joke
there's there's a lot of like okay just
just don't pre-order it like you shouldn't have anyways and just wait
till it comes out we'll figure it out then feel like a
broken record sometimes just trying to get like the rumor stuff to just like
shut up and wait till they figure it out and trying to get this to just just just
shut up and wait till it comes out don't pre-order it don't buy it right now
don't do any of that junk just freaking wait till it comes out we'll figure it
out down sampling is not going to be or Uber sampling sorry is not going to be
there when the game releases that'll be a big deal once it's available um it's
freaking CD project red so there's going to be DLC like crazy for free um after
it's out so like don't pre-order it and
probably don't even buy it right away just wait they are saying that the uh
the minimum the recommended settings are targeted at 30 FPS but they don't say
it'll be locked to that and I really can't imagine it would be from those
guys and they're not saying PC and console will look the same just that
they'll be based on the same starting point so I think this is a lot of freaking out over nothing and I think
what they're probably doing is just demoing the same version across the
board so they're not setting un realistic expectations for the users of
one platform versus another one which as far as marketing things go is pretty
benign it's fine just wait till it comes
out it doesn't matter oh my God I know
so many people have been freaking out and my general message so far has been
it's very possibly a lost and translation thing cuz he said something
that sounded kind of like it could be taken poorly so one just exploded over
it but it's probably just an equalization for expectation like he was
talking about and you'll if you have a
NASA supercomputer you'll probably be able to run it great it's a CD project
Red game so for the first little while that it's out it'll be very hard to run
and then better Hardware will come out and it'll be totally fine um but yeah
just a little more reason to wait and buy it later yes uh so our next our next
topic here oh for crying out loud this is really making me mad now that I have
to uh now that I have to open it and
then copy the link from URL bar of my new town this is why I used to do it for
you is I thought you were doing this cuz that's what I was doing it takes so long
ah okay so next one's this is uh Intel's
y gig 7 gbit per second wireless docking
Tech that looks pretty freaking awesome you know a fair Mo about this cuz you did the laptop thing at CES right this
was posted by a Ming on the Forum and oh
that site is not a thing anymore or that
article uh this was actually we were going to talk about this last week and
we didn't get to it yeah but you have firsthand experience with this right no
I haven't tried it Oh I thought you had a I thought you tried a laptop with this so it's very short range 60 GHz and
delivers up to 7 gbit per second and basically like by short range we mean
like short range like within sort of
your your desk um but the idea is that you'll be able to run things like
displays peripherals even highspeed USB
devices wirelessly as long as you are
close close enough to your docking station so this would be like a triple
Band Wi-Fi 2.45 and 60 GHz where the 60
gz would be used for this uh y gig docking technology truly wire free in
the triband AC 17265 um Wireless module so you've got
your fast AC you've got your 802.11 a y
gig and any laptop tablet or twoin one featuring this technology is already set
up to seamlessly pair with a DOT featuring an Intel wireless gigabit sync
cool pretty freaking I'd love to test
this out yeah me too I really want to try this yeah yeah yeah um let me just
see it can auto dock with your Dev with your desktop wirelessly
uh yeah I guess that's pretty much it can support up to two full HD displays
so we're talking like two 1080p monitors can you can just wirelessly dock with
them and I their claiming latency is very low so pretty exciting I'm
excited Ireland apparently will accept selfies for passport photos it's not
it's it's like a kind of more of a local tra uh travel thing and within the EU
thing it's not like a full world passport so it's a passport like ID card
available for about 40 bucks passport like it's not a passport all right Apple
made a ton of money qb1 earnings of 74.6 billion in revenue and profit of 18
billion biggest quarter ever for Apple uh by contrast Samsung's profits fell
significantly it's hard to be an Android phone maker hey it's like yay we have
this free OS that we don't have to pay for but we still can't make any
money super unfortunate
uh qualcom confirms loss of a large
customer speculated to be Samsung this was posted by GeForce FTW on the Forum
by the way the last one was from Sir numbers um Q4 earnings release the
company revealed expectations that our Snapdragon 810 processor will not be in
the upcoming design cycle of a large customers Flagship device speculated to
be Samsung as they're set to use their own exos CPUs in the next Galaxy S
because of overheating of the Snapdragon 810 so qualcomm's expected earnings fell
only by .8 billion from between 2.8
billion and 2.6 2 28.8 billion and 26.8
billion to 28 and 26 LG has already confirmed it plans to use the 810 and
its upcoming G Flex 2 which should make up for the losses due to this galaxy
srop who wrote that no it won't but a
Flex 2 is going to be equivalent to the upcoming s whatever I think
not oh no I just swiped something away I
think I just archived something and that is incredibly bad who was that uhoh who
was that email from I should not play with my phone no during not looking at
its screen time anyways uhoh is is this the show over
should we after party sure okay while I try and figure this out I'm going to
start playing roll the outro that's not the music can I just
fix this well you broke it so yeah you broke it look at how you're breaking it
that's
you did you iix it with your square
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