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oh excuse me sorry was trying to test a theory and I guess I was right it seems

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like every time I sneeze somebody releases a new one of these handheld PCS

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it's at the point now where pretty much no matter what form factor or spec

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you're interested in there is something for you meet the iono flip DS a uh

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Brazen attempt at creating a machine

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that looks like it will be absolutely perfect for Nintendo DS emulation but in

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truth it's a little bit more complicated than that let's have a look at the

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machine it's thick the top looks really slick though

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oh this is something it's available in two colors black and wouldn't recommend

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uh this has only been used for a couple of hours by our Labs team for testing

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and you can already see it's starting to look pretty dirty those are replaceable

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these are replaceable hey there we go huh well

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let's see what else is in the

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package wow damn boy 65 Watts detachable

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USBC cable love to see it oh different

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textured grip pieces they're worse USBC

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cable looks like a 6ft cable and I was

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wrong it's a 5ft cable what a bizarre C cable length Okay International adapters

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and USBC to a adapters for one and two

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oh I guess now's a good time to look at the io of this thing on the top you've

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got your right triggers these are hall effect triggers you've got your shoulder

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buttons you've got a third button really love to see that programmable you've got

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a Micro SD slot just a little something like that then we've got two USBC ports

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one is USB 3 one is USB 4 so there's the

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possibility that you could run Thunderbolt compatible with peripherals

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like external GPU Docks but it's not a guarantee on AMD platforms and it can be

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a little bit flaky and of course you probably wouldn't want to anyway because

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that's right my friends we've got an oculink connector now unlike Thunderbolt

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or USB 4 it's not hot pluggable so you can't just plug in your GPU whenever you

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feel like but if you shut down your system plug in an oculink egpu then boot

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up your system you don't have to deal with some of the additional protocol

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overhead of these interfaces and you get a full PCIe gen 4x4 connection meaning

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even reasonably performant modern gpus should run really freaking well in this

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thing what else we got here we've got stereo speakers on the bottom like to

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see the bottom mounted headphone jack appreciate that although I wouldn't mind

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it if one of these USBC ports was on the bottom at the back wow that's a lot of

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ventilation intake exhaust and that

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makes sense because inside we've got the same well I shouldn't say the same I was

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going to say the same processor that's been taking the handheld Market by storm

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the Z1 extreme I mean 7840 u i mean 8840

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U that's right my friends it's not the

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same because it has more neural processing it's actually kind of funny

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if you load up the pages for the 7840 U

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and the 8840 u in two tabs and then flip

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between them one of them's Global and one of them's Global and China and Japan

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in between those processor releases China and Japan joined the globe yeah

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these are very similar processors and I'm making such a big deal about it because technically this unit is

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available with either the 7,000 series or 8,000 series both of which have the

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same eight zen4 cores the clock up to 5.1 GHz just like the Z1 extreme and

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they've got the same Radeon 78m graphics

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like the Z1 extreme the only difference is whether you get the last gen neural

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processor or the 8000 series slightly before neural processor what you'll be

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doing on it on a device like this I have no idea but that's something for you to

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figure out not me wow this is a big screen I don't know what it is maybe

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it's just like the muscle memory of it but the last time I used a dual screen

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device it was a Nintendo DS so I was just a little surprised to see such a

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actually large and vibrant screen iono

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seems to have absolutely no idea what the specs of this thing are they

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advertise everything from 400 nits I think it is to 550 nits but when we

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measured it in our lab we got over 800 nits which is extremely bright for an

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SDR display making this thing easily usable even Outdoors which is pretty

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cool grayscale performance was okay at

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2.4 was a little on the warm side good for HD video but it'll be a little

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darker than normal for reference or desktop content and it managed 97%

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coverage of the srgb color space which is fine color accuracy was also fine and

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the same can pretty much be said of the bottom display except that it had a

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little bit better gamut coverage and doesn't get as bright let's talk about

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the inputs H it's quite flat though I'm

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sure any resemblance to the Nintendo DS is quite coincidental but unlike the DS

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instead of going with you know those awful slidy joysticks in order to keep

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it flat they've got a pretty decent range of motion on these and they've

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just recessed them under the surface I guess that's a big part of the reason

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this thing is so bloody thick because

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look how much of the space is being taken up by these joysticks they feel

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okay though I think it's a pretty okay tradeoff actually ergonomics are

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generally pretty okay especially considering this thing's considerable

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heft what else have we got going on here we've got a button for Io space okay so

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we can adjust our power profile we can adjust our performance overlay sure

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let's turn that on let's go simple though we can adjust our fan

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first purchase or subscription uh do you want me to turn the brightness down on

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this a little bit I think it was okay all right let's figure out what all the buttons do uh uhhuh oh we've got Dr a

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mouse oh there we go so they're just set up in a pretty St um how do I right

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click yeah well that's left click oh

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hey there it is nice let's have a look at the display settings okay that's a

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sensible config yeah it's definitely too bright do you want me to turn it down Glen okay let's lose some of this 800

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nits of brightness here oh there's one of those little CH oh that is uh not the

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best one of these little trackpads I've ever used all right we got our oh cool

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some programmable buttons select the window to move to the secondary screen

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okay sure we did come across some

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bugginess managing applications between the two screens including a weird one

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where when we were doing our battery testing we found that extinguishing the

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bottom screen didn't really have a significant impact on battery life uh

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because it was still showing up to Windows and it was still outputting to

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it it was just a full black screen at whatever brightness it was at as far as

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we could tell but the good news is that it's Windows so when it comes to window

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management across multiple screens there are lots of different options both built

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into the operating system and from third parties so you got your standard Xbox C

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buttons right here you've got whatever this button oh okay ah go

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to desktop button let's see what this button does it is okay but if we do

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that oh I see so that overlay is an

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overlay it sits in the foreground okay so this toggles that

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functionality that's pretty cool oh one thing I haven't mentioned power buttons

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here built-in fingerprint scanner love to see

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it I am not a fan of these vibration Motors can I just get that out there

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right now you can hear what I don't like about them I

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bet uh let's see if we can adjust that a little bit okay vibration high oh

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that'll probably oh guys really the controller

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is working both in game and in I

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well high is that but more let's try

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low well not great vibration Motors I

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mean hey how about this performance though all right are we actually getting

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over 100 FPS in PS of horizon 5 right now overall gaming performance on this

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device was very solid not as good as the

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Rog Ally curiously it seems like iano is

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prioritizing CPU clock speed compared to GPU clock speed but pretty much in line

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with what you'd expect from a Z1 extreme 78 40u or 8840 U how are these

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speakers not very direct sometimes you can tell and sometimes you can really

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tell but these are down firing

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AF they're allowed though

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very tiny though of course if what you're after is the perfect machine to

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play Nintendo DS games I bet you're

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willing to overlook kind of mediocre speakers cuz like realistically how good

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were the speakers on the DS now I should clarify all of my hours in Mario Kart DS

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were on a DS and that's kind of for good reason DS emulation is good in terms of

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performance but in terms of um

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configuring for the dual screen layout of the DS It's not that great um it

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turns out this is kind of how you're intended to do it with most of the

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emulators there are hacky ways to get it to work a little bit better than this

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but um I saw a comment on a forum from a

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prominent member I don't think they were a developer but they were certainly a prominent member saying yeah if we had

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that option you'd try it for a little bit and then you'd be like ah forget it

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it's better to just have the screens right next to each other I think I might

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kind of agree well here let's let's give this a shot yeah what's the benefit of

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having all this white space other than nostalgia laying it out like this I'm

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not sure there's some other challenges with playing DS games on a machine like

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this I guess one of the big ones is like why would you do that the battery life

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is going to be a fraction of what you'd get from an actual DS which is running a

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glorified Smartwatch processor by today's standards we got anywhere from

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under an hour in our extreme stress test

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to about 5 hours in our endurance test

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which is very respectable for something running a 45 hour battery with this kind

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of processor horsepower but nothing compared to what you'd get on a DS the

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other big issue is that if you really want to Pirate DS games

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um the DS is thoroughly thoroughly

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hacked at this point not going to lie guys if I really wanted to emulate the

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DS I think I'd almost rather have a Game

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Boy like form factor with a really tall screen then I just don't have the

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unnecessary gap between my screens that doesn't really yeah seem to contribute

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anything we got a little hyper fixated on the Nintendo DS we forgot about 3DS

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gameplay but if you're wondering it also plays fantastic and look you can use

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both the screens handy for uh throwing

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nuts at your foes bam we're playing at 3x resolution and everything is buttery

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smooth the other big elephant in the room is pricing it starts at just under

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$1,000 and makes its way up into the $1,500 range by the time you put the

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latest processor the available 64 gigs of RAM and up to 2 TB of storage in it

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so cool yes the option that has a

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keyboard down here also pretty cool that's a really neat form factor with

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the ability to you know type passwords and stuff like that whenever it's inconvenient to use an on-screen

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keyboard speaking of which I thought I pressed something earlier oh yeah there

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you go this is rebound on screen keyboard by default okay so that's nice

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really cool form factor very holdable

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actually kind of like the ergonomics I wish this was a little bit more rounded

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right here like it's a cool machine it's a cool factor it's a very complete

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package it's got Wi-Fi 6E it's got a 120 HZ display that yeah is pretty good it's

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just it's got a very challenging pricing

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structure right now when you can get an Rog Ali Z1 extreme for like

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$700 which is over $250 less and that's

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at full price with those things going on promo either open box or brand new

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fairly frequently so if you're super into the form factor there's a lot to

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love here I mean the Ali doesn't have oculink that's pretty sick but if you're

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not that into the form factor well I

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wouldn't blame you it's really pocketable oh sort of as long as your

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