WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:09.280 it is rare that I am so excited about something that has a name so misleading 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:12.040 Mr piie true false it is not a pie 00:00:09.280 --> 00:00:16.760 product not a raspberry or such fruit uh it is in fact a clone of the Mr fpga 00:00:14.799 --> 00:00:23.400 Project you may already know but the Mr fpga Project aims to make emulation as 00:00:20.680 --> 00:00:28.960 simple accurate and comprehensive as possible and at the core of this project 00:00:25.599 --> 00:00:32.040 has been the d10 Nano a development fpj 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:33.399 board that is inside of every Mis system 00:00:32.040 --> 00:00:39.079 the problem with that is that since it's Ryzen popularity it's more than 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:41.039 doubled in price which made buying a Mr 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:48.199 system uh with all the accessories which we'll get into later quite expensive 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:51.039 until today tacky udon a retr modding 00:00:48.199 --> 00:00:57.520 console Enthusiast YouTuber has commissioned the creation of the de10 00:00:53.680 --> 00:00:59.480 Nano clone board the Mr pie which in 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:03.960 theory is supposed to be a drop and replac for the de10 Nano with a couple 00:01:01.879 --> 00:01:09.520 changes that actually might make it the better option even though it's less than 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:13.439 half the price I am so excited I've been excited about this thing ever since I've 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:16.479 heard about it I genuinely didn't know if it was ever going to hit the market I 00:01:14.880 --> 00:01:23.520 thought that this might just be one of those not a wet dream a I guess I have to take apart one 00:01:21.479 --> 00:01:28.680 of these misters these ones are just shells um this is my personal Mister 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:33.840 that I have for a different reason here I'm just going to pull it apart and 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:39.399 they're the same here's the Mr piie and this is the de10 Nano uh different color 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:45.200 PCB Green's usually the cheapest uh the io is mostly the same 00:01:42.360 --> 00:01:52.479 although the big upgrade in my opinion is going from a barrel Jack for power to 00:01:48.600 --> 00:01:55.119 type c and that is Type C with PD so it 00:01:52.479 --> 00:01:58.680 can accept 5 to 12 volt power and it'll lower the voltage if you're giving it 00:01:56.399 --> 00:02:02.280 more than 5 volts very convenient uh especially if you start to accessoriz 00:02:00.320 --> 00:02:06.840 your Mis with a bunch of boards you could have just one USB power block and 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:10.679 kind of split out your power that way huge fan of type-c I know that was a 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:13.200 question uh early on but I'm glad we are doing away with the barrel Jack you'll 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:21.200 notice a few other changes with the iio we still have Ethernet but next to that we have type c instead of mini which is 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:25.280 a very nice upgrade I haven't had a mini device since a PS3 although I guess that 00:02:23.720 --> 00:02:30.519 is kind of retro and then we have a type A instead of micro b that one is also 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:34.280 very nice micro B sucks micro and mini Beast suck got to say type-c for the win 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:38.280 this side mostly the same on this side we have our type-c instead of barrel 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:42.480 HDMI which is great I believe it's up to like about 1500p without any of the scan 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:48.519 line effects which is very nice and then instead of our debug we have what I can 00:02:45.480 --> 00:02:50.959 assume is some kind of serialized pins 00:02:48.519 --> 00:02:55.959 if you know what that is you let me know in terms of their primary fpga processor 00:02:53.000 --> 00:03:00.360 we have the Altera Cyclone 5 on both uh I've heard rumors that these might be 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:04.599 poles from recycled chips but uh I haven't seen that confirmed so who knows 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:08.959 I also haven't seen any big reliability issues except for one thing which we'll 00:03:06.959 --> 00:03:13.519 get into on the top we have the same dip switches toggles uh and then serial 00:03:11.720 --> 00:03:16.879 connectors or the expansion ports so that you can install upgrades for RAM 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:20.440 which is necessary for some of the consoles very nice the only thing I'll 00:03:18.760 --> 00:03:23.920 point out is that the SD card slot is the same spot on the bottom mine has its 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:28.360 SD card in it ours we will have to configure once we've installed all the 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:32.439 rest of our accessories let's take a look first off I glossed over it a 00:03:30.760 --> 00:03:37.920 little bit before this packaging is adorable this Master System themed inner 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:40.360 boxes and even the PS1 inspired retro 00:03:37.920 --> 00:03:44.480 remake logo I'm a fan of committing to the retroness let's start with the io 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:49.319 board which at first glance looks pretty similar to the Mr add-ons similar 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.159 purpose board that I have uh slightly 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:54.280 different connections again green PCB instead of the black PCB I like the look 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:58.519 of the black PCB a little bit more but if your case isn't transparent that isn't going to matter we have our 00:03:57.079 --> 00:04:05.079 buttons I don't want to spend the whole time comparing it there's a million options this is the Mr Pro add-on board 00:04:02.799 --> 00:04:08.599 and the reason you would add something like this on is you know power buttons 00:04:06.760 --> 00:04:12.599 instead of having it hard switch off your Mister on and off with an external 00:04:10.239 --> 00:04:17.040 switch you can do it with this board that'll connect and control this uh 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:21.400 using these buttons but also you can have analog output and so a big 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:26.479 advantage of Mister is that you can get really clean digital signal to a Modern 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:30.479 Display and so you get games rendered at their native resolution but then they're 00:04:27.880 --> 00:04:34.160 upscaled very cleanly or not even you can even send like the native resolution 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:38.520 through HDMI to a digital connection and then do whatever you want with it 00:04:35.880 --> 00:04:42.800 digital is great for uh signal splitting capture all kinds of stuff but there's a 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:48.240 lot of cases if you're a retro Enthusiast you want an analog connection 00:04:45.280 --> 00:04:52.800 and that's where this VGA port comes in if you want to connect to a CRT or an 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:55.080 older display it's a lot easier to have 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:58.600 that conversion happen inside of the Mr Box and to have a separate box although 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:02.720 those separate boxes can also be excellent this gives you high quality 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:06.600 analog video as well as 24-bit audio which is great if you want the absolute 00:05:04.400 --> 00:05:11.280 most out of these retro systems it also includes a cooling fan uh which is nice 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:16.520 you can passively cool the Mis and I'm guessing as well the Mis pie but you 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:20.639 need an aluminum case that has the heat sink going all the way down to spread 00:05:17.960 --> 00:05:24.160 that heat uh and even then I'm a big fan of fans and this one's an RGB one it 00:05:22.479 --> 00:05:28.800 looks like that's really nice one of the advantages of the Mr pie and that 00:05:26.280 --> 00:05:31.800 ecosystem is that it's the cheapest of everything available and I know it's 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:35.919 going to be compatible so you get that piece of mind my Mis doesn't need this 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:40.960 but this one occupies one of the expansion slots to connect to the io 00:05:38.919 --> 00:05:45.319 board not a huge deal I kind of like the look of that actually it's like a tasty 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:49.919 ass sandwich next up we have the USB expansion which adds seven USB ports 00:05:47.880 --> 00:05:54.120 with two power ones these are really really nice if you want to keep your Mis 00:05:51.960 --> 00:05:57.199 size down I used to have one that was kind of split into two boxes where my 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:04.400 USB hub was separate and then it's just more cables going in this is very very 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:07.440 very clean uh these pins just go into 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:09.199 this which is really nice oh it looks so 00:06:07.440 --> 00:06:13.960 tasty I just want to take a bite I need to install standoffs as it is right now 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:19.639 this sandwich Bea toplin also metal touching pins on the backside is usually 00:06:17.039 --> 00:06:23.360 not ideal oh there they are there's my standoffs and my screws let's see what 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:27.000 else is in this box we got our Wi-Fi dongle which is really nice the Mis can 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:30.479 actually update over the Internet so you don't have to do an SD card update each 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:34.880 time you can also set it up as an FTP server to drag games over very easily 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:41.000 and this will also act as a Bluetooth dongle so that you can connect your Bluetooth controllers although in terms 00:06:37.840 --> 00:06:43.199 of latency wired or a 2.4 GHz dongle 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:49.000 will probably give you a better result but that's nice flexibility we also have 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:51.919 our RAM upgrade I have never used a Mis 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:57.240 without the RAM expansion they are basically essential for PS1 00:06:54.479 --> 00:07:00.639 N64 and Saturn you know all that modern fifth gen stuff that's just going to 00:06:58.840 --> 00:07:06.879 slide on there once I remember what the orientation is fist side faces outward 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.440 that is so helpful take a look at that I 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:12.759 have heard that there are QC issues with the RAM in the sense that they are 00:07:10.039 --> 00:07:17.919 supposed to go up to 150 MHz and some were having troubles cracking 125 130 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:20.240 the good news is the response from Taki seems to be absolutely excellent they've 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:26.280 tried to replicate the issue and the issue seems to be less a RAM specific issue and more of a combo board RAM 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:30.280 compatibility issue they've been an absolute Champion for making sure people are getting what they pay for even 00:07:29.039 --> 00:07:36.599 though what they paying is just a fraction of what competitors are offering the last two things in our box 00:07:33.599 --> 00:07:38.879 are an acrylic base as well as a this is 00:07:36.599 --> 00:07:42.280 a really nice type c cable dang this does not have all the pins this is going 00:07:40.440 --> 00:07:45.919 to be good for power which is fantastic that's all I need for this the acrylic 00:07:43.919 --> 00:07:50.039 base is nice it allows you to run this mis without any extra add-ons uh I would 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:55.000 recommend in the long term getting a shell either the acrylic one that they 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.080 sell for $15 uh as part of this kit or 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:00.720 there's tons of options that exist Mr f is a pretty mature ecosystem at this 00:07:58.840 --> 00:08:04.120 point retro Castle is great I like the Mr add-on stuffs there's also the Mr 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:08.840 multistem stuff and the nice thing is that the primary product the Mr pie will 00:08:07.159 --> 00:08:12.599 work with all of them and that's what's freaking awesome about this just cutting 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:16.280 the cost helping the consumer making Mister a much more attractive option for 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:19.639 so many people man let's get this thing installed and play some games but not 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:24.400 before I tell you about our sponsor thanks to manscape for sponsoring this 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:28.680 video are you too hairy manscaped can help with their performance package 5.0 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:32.880 Ultra it includes the lawnmower 5.0 Ultra for below the belt trimming with 00:08:30.400 --> 00:08:37.200 its two interchangeable blades the weed whacker 2.0 for your ears and nose and 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:42.159 even their crop Soother and crop preserver lotions for your aftercut care 00:08:39.640 --> 00:08:47.399 grab their package for your package over at manscape.com circuit and use code 00:08:44.839 --> 00:08:51.160 circuit for 20% off in free shipping finishing the assembly now they include 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:54.959 extra standoffs which is actually a very nice touch I've had the issue before 00:08:52.839 --> 00:08:58.160 where I lose a screw or something and you kind of have things floating a 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:02.120 little more than you'd like you don't need the acrylic it looks like it has 00:08:59.760 --> 00:09:05.560 its own little feet I don't love having no case but for testing it out and 00:09:03.959 --> 00:09:09.800 taking a look at it it's pretty cool to see all of these different pieces of 00:09:07.880 --> 00:09:13.440 tech just sandwiched together it's pretty nifty one thing I didn't mention 00:09:11.680 --> 00:09:18.600 because I thought the accessory came with this package is this blue USB port 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:24.040 this is because this isn't actually a USB port in the sense that it carries 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:31.079 the same data it's actually a snack port snac and this is great for latency free 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:32.760 conversion of a an old controller to 00:09:31.079 --> 00:09:36.320 something the mister can understand there's adapters that exist that go 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:41.200 directly from Super Nintendo port to snack or PS1 to snack the turbo pack 00:09:38.560 --> 00:09:44.519 does come with the Super Nintendo to snack adapter as well as a shell that 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:49.720 would definitely be the pack that I would select for myself but that is sold out and I expect that this is going to 00:09:47.800 --> 00:09:53.399 be sold out for a long time just because of the value proposition but how does it 00:09:51.839 --> 00:09:57.200 play let's find out with the Mr assembled all we had to do was follow 00:09:54.920 --> 00:10:02.200 the guide on GitHub get the software updated games that we've legally backed 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:07.279 up onto this system and we are away playing one of my all-time favorites 00:10:04.640 --> 00:10:12.399 unlicensed Nintendo game because this is the unboxing of the Mr pie not the pie 00:10:10.560 --> 00:10:17.360 we're not going to go too in depth into the features of the Mr ecosystem which 00:10:16.079 --> 00:10:22.760 is what this is still using that software that open source project but I 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:25.640 can tell you it's a legless experience 00:10:22.760 --> 00:10:29.079 it's visually Flawless there's tons of options I mean let's look at it a little 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:34.040 bit so we can change you know our aspect RTI show we can put uh different scaling 00:10:31.839 --> 00:10:38.800 modes depending on the TV I'm on I actually like these uh HQ modes there's 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:42.160 an hq3 mode you can get uh it's not installed by default that I actually 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:45.800 quite like on a real CRT it kind of makes it look extra HD for some reason 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:50.160 but it's a very much a personal preference thing and on the system level 00:10:47.760 --> 00:10:53.519 you can set direct output which means that the games will output at their 00:10:52.160 --> 00:10:58.880 native resolution meaning that you can have upscaling happen 100% outside we've 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:03.240 done a video on the Retro tank 4K which the is a perfect pairing for you go 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:06.360 native resolution of your Mis HDMI to your retrotink at Native resolution and 00:11:05.079 --> 00:11:10.760 that does all the work and it gives you the best result overall but that becomes 00:11:08.839 --> 00:11:13.880 a very expensive combo the nice thing is that this is going to be cheaper than 00:11:12.160 --> 00:11:18.800 doing the original Mis and it's going to be cheaper by large amount than the Mars 00:11:16.760 --> 00:11:22.360 fpga project when that comes out there's not much to say the Mis experience is a 00:11:20.680 --> 00:11:26.600 Flawless one it takes a little bit of setup to get going but the Mr Pi Project 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:30.279 actually simplifies it over figuring it all out yourself all the information is 00:11:27.959 --> 00:11:34.200 in one place compatibility is in issue uh all that is worried about for you and 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:37.800 so minimizing what I think is you know arguably the weakness of the Mis 00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:40.760 ecosystem makes this an even more compelling product let's play some 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:44.120 Tetris attack that's going to be good for you know detecting input latency 00:11:42.680 --> 00:11:50.600 although this monitor is a very old crappy LCD monitor and has its own uh 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:53.040 large amount of input latency put 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:58.720 in it's so funny there's just like sweet spots of retro things like you don't 00:11:54.959 --> 00:12:00.079 want early LCD you want late CRT and 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:04.120 that's about it wait this is a Tetris I just love the 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:09.839 Mis project it makes it so convenient so easy I definitely miss original Hardware 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:13.399 a little bit I've very recently parted with a lot of my original Hardware but I 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:17.600 think for a lot of people it's the convenience and the Simplicity of it 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:22.279 will Trump getting old analog video formats to work with a Modern Display or 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:27.519 hoarding CRTs and this is really the best way to play retro games the thing I 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:32.240 haven't really done is play more modern systems uh like this and 64 or the 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:36.720 Saturn on a mister and so I'm very curious to try that it's been my like 00:12:33.959 --> 00:12:40.480 genesis and Super Nintendo machine for a long time I got to say Game Boy Advance 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:44.360 games do not scale well on 1080p displays they need to be on Tiny screens 00:12:42.839 --> 00:12:49.240 speaking of that's kind of the next dream product we're waiting for on tacky 00:12:46.800 --> 00:12:53.199 they already have a switch light OLED upgrade kit where you can convert a 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:58.600 switch light to an OLED screen and it looks a lot better and now they have 00:12:55.040 --> 00:13:01.040 this Mr fpj clone I want them to combine 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:04.839 and make a handheld Mister to compete with the analog pocket the analog 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:10.279 pocket's okay but I feel like it's a little underpowered for doing some of 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:12.000 the more heavy duty fpga stuff and so I 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:18.399 would really like to see a portable Mis something that was really slick and easy to use uh and I think a lot of people 00:13:14.680 --> 00:13:19.480 would like that too chacky please please 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:24.279 like the Super Nintendo there's not too much to say about this Game Boy advanced experience it's great it's Flawless 00:13:22.839 --> 00:13:29.240 let's play something a little more challenging we now have N64 working what 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:32.560 we had to do was configure our update all settings making sure we're getting 00:13:30.680 --> 00:13:36.360 our boot ROMs downloaded you there's screen cap of that right here that's how 00:13:33.959 --> 00:13:42.639 you do that very cool we're playing some N64 baby what I like about it too is 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.639 everything just kind of 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:49.720 works I'm joking about that but like my controller just works it the rumble was 00:13:48.160 --> 00:13:53.839 compatible like there's a lot of things that used to be a lot of problem solving 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.639 and figuring out and the fact that I was able to just change one setting in a 00:13:55.600 --> 00:14:00.920 menu and then this seems to be a pretty Flawless experience although there is 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:06.120 definitely the whatever the N64 softening filter is is Hardcore this is 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:09.199 impressive this works pretty good I have no complaints about this although 00:14:07.560 --> 00:14:13.639 there's all the analog options uh including the new N64 one that was just 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:16.920 announced the analog 3D where everything just work out of the box there's 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:21.480 something special with the Mis where you pay once and you get everything up to 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:26.320 fifth gen and once it's working it's very easy and consistent it definitely 00:14:23.839 --> 00:14:29.360 is a little more tinkery than a lot of other Solutions including an analog 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:33.639 pocket even jailbreaking that's an easier time than this but the value you 00:14:31.880 --> 00:14:39.199 get with this thing $160 us that's literally less than the 00:14:37.160 --> 00:14:43.959 price of just the de10 Nano and you get the whole solution minus a USB power 00:14:41.680 --> 00:14:47.480 brick uh this is absolutely fantastic then you can buy other cases get 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:51.920 something more custom and and fun for your setup but this is just an 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:56.920 absolutely fantastic value a great option that is just a win-win win for 00:14:54.279 --> 00:15:01.279 consumers all across the board I am so excited that uh we got to showcase this 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:04.959 and if this is something that interests you I highly recommend that you check it 00:15:03.199 --> 00:15:08.279 out I've had a great experience with Mr stuff and if I didn't already have my 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:12.959 de10 Nano I would be getting one of these These are freaking sweet it's hard 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:18.440 to find something to complain about it's this but cheaper and uh that's great 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:23.240 that's just awesome just like you if you like retro short circuits why 00:15:20.800 --> 00:15:27.680 not check out the one where I unbox the analog retro Duo which is the turbo 00:15:25.680 --> 00:15:32.639 Graphics very very cool I ended up getting one and then I sold it