{"video_id":"AR78IvzYR8E","title":"High End Gaming in your PALM - ASRock DeskMini GTX","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2018-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":475,"segments":[{"start_s":0.32,"end_s":8.16,"text":"the industry has been simultaneously moving in two very interesting","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.279,"end_s":13.28,"text":"directions this year on the one side core i9 and threadripper showed us the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.88,"end_s":18.72,"text":"performance that can be accomplished if you don't sweat minor details like power","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.08,"end_s":23.359,"text":"consumption and heat output but on the other side of things NVIDIA","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.359,"end_s":28.96,"text":"has tweaked the efficiency of their pascal gpus to the point where this","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":26.88,"end_s":33.6,"text":"pint-sized pc well 5.7 pints to be 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into basically any environment now being a bare bones kit we've got to open it up to install a few things before we even think about booting it up and what are we greeted by this is the secret sauce an entirely new motherboard standard developed by asrock called micro stx it features a pretty good assortment of standardized i o including one 3.1 type c port free of the type a variety plus audio out audio in and Ethernet and our board has an lga 1151 socket room for a couple of sodium slots that we populated with 32 gigs of ddr4 memory from a pacer and the most interesting part the mxm slot for the uninitiated mxm is a pci express x16 standard for the super low profile graphics cards that are generally used in high-end laptops so our desk mini came with none other than a fully featured desktop grade gtx 1080 installed man that's impressive considering how small this thing is the back side of the motherboard tray is dedicated to storage we went with a single samsung 960 pro m.2 SSD but you could actually install up to three high-speed NVMe drives and two two and a half inch drives for slower bulk storage oh and there's also a 2x2 Intel wireless card back here so now the plan was to pair our gtx 1080 with the best consumer gaming CPU an Intel core i7 7700k with knock to us slim high performance nhl9i heatsink but this is where we hit our first snag with the desk mini cooler compatibility unfortunately the dc in jack housing interferes with any square cooler so while we did briefly try out the 7700k using Intel's anemic stock cooler it thermal throttled to the point that we wouldn't recommend it so we swapped it out for a regular i7 7700 even after that change though our cooling woes weren't quite over with the fan curve set to its default of silent the CPU was getting up to a toasty 75 degrees doing basic things like installing programs not that comfortable a quick trip back to the BIOS did fix this problem but it introduced another now we aren't blaming asrock for Intel's lame-o stock cooler but since we don't have great aftermarket options it kind of doesn't matter who's to blame when we're stuck with a system that's annoyingly loud especially while gaming when the GPU fan joins the chorus and join the chorus it did gaming wise this thing is an amazing little beast it performs almost ish pretty much like a full-sized desktop with a full-sized gtx 1080. the GPU didn't reach its full boost potential compared to a founder's edition running in the same 24 degree office but it's safe to say that this machine is capable of handily driving modern aaa games maxed out at 1080p those same games at 1440p with some details turned down and in some titles 4k gaming is even achievable i mean check this out butter smooth unfortunately at 1600 us dollars for the bare bones gtx 1080 kit the desk mini is far from cheap to put that into context that's three hundred dollars more than a slightly faster not to mention water cooled and overclockable Corsair one and over five hundred dollars more than a similarly spec'd diy pc so why well it seems to be due to business decisions at NVIDIA not asrock price gouging at this time mxm cards are only available to notebook system integrators or through shady sellers on ebay but we were able to find enough listings to confirm that it's the video card being priced at double its desktop equivalent that's making stx gaming machines unaffordable right now i would like to see this change in the future this is cool but i'm not sure if i want to get my hopes up because it's actually rumored that NVIDIA is planning to end support for mxm altogether something that would seriously hurt this exciting new form factor so hey guys maybe let them know if you're with me and you don't want to see that happen for now the more sensible models are the 1060 and 1070 ones which should have the added benefit of running cooler and quieter while they deliver top tier gaming performance without ruining the aesthetic of your room 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