{"video_id":"9voQqU73-Mg","title":"Can AMD RIP the Core i9? – Ryzen Threadripper","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2018-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":511,"segments":[{"start_s":0.24,"end_s":8.2,"text":"there are a number of important things that separate AMD from Intel in the CPU","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.24,"end_s":16.279,"text":"Market these days here are just a few product called Threadripper AMD yes","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.04,"end_s":21.92,"text":"Intel no gigantic package AMD yes Intel","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.279,"end_s":25.56,"text":"no debuted at LTX amds Intel no but if","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.92,"end_s":29.56,"text":"the name and the sheer size and girth of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.56,"end_s":31.84,"text":"AMD's new socket TR4 platform isn't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":29.56,"end_s":39.16,"text":"enough to sell you on it 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buy the stuff we featured in the video description also linked in the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":503.96,"end_s":509.159,"text":"description is our merch store which has cool shirts like this one and our","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":507.24,"end_s":512.12,"text":"community Forum which you should totally join l","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"there are a number of important things that separate AMD from Intel in the CPU Market these days here are just a few product called Threadripper AMD yes Intel no gigantic package AMD yes Intel no debuted at LTX amds Intel no but if the name and the sheer size and girth of AMD's new socket TR4 platform isn't enough to sell you on it then stick around because we're about to open it up and see if what's inside rips team blue a new one the be quiet! dark Bas Pro 900s modular design supports a variety of different layouts and configurations click on the link in the video description to learn more meet Threadripper AMD's latest and greatest in more ways than one release for the Zen microarchitecture that threatens to hit Intel where it hurts the high-end desktop and workstation this is a really big deal because the last time AMD had any punching power in this weight class optons were still a thing people wanted to buy and you could still get a decent AGP graphics card it can be argued that ryzen 7 positioned against the core i7 6900 K had a lot of appeal but it lacked per thread performance and more importantly perhaps the many PCI Express Lanes that professionals have come to rely on while Threadripper is actually clocked similarly to ryzen 7 and makes use of the same modular CCX design and infinity fabric interconnect by amping it up to four CCX of cross two dies we now get a total of 64 PCI Express Lanes that is 20 more than Intel's shiny new core I9 and even threatens Intel's Zeon server processors Who currently enjoy just four more Lanes than their core I9 counterparts and in a world where gpus are critical to high-end compute performance like rendering and scientific research 64 Lanes gets you highspeed connections to a lot of them three gpus by themselves at 16x speeds would saturate a core I9 or zeeon completely while on a Threadripper based system you're going to have room to spare to be fair to Intel their rationale is that there's not many scenarios where this is a big issue but AMD's betting and we believe they're right on NVMe storage high-speed networking and high performance external accelerator even gpus becoming more and more common as time goes on though with that said there is no word yet on Thunderbolt support in any AMD ecosystem what is supported on all AMD Zen based platforms though are The Usual Suspects like sense Mii Precision boost and xfr which allow Threadripper to determine the Optimal Performance State voltage and power limit on a millisecond scale and even boost performance further if the cooling is good enough old news perhaps but it's an important distinction from Team blue whose high-end desktop and Zeon processors have traditionally lagged a generation behind their mainstream chips in terms of power management well all right then lonus thanks for the recap tell us something we don't know we'll get to that first a closer look at the chips launching today the 1950x clocks in at a whopping 16 cores and 32 threads with a massive 40 megab of cash it achieves this by gluing together two zenis of two CCX each what's perhaps even more interesting is its little brother the 1920x which still enjoys a numbers advantage over the more expensive cor I9 7900 X at 12 cores 24 threads and still 64 PCI E Lanes so we slotted both of them quite literally this new mounting mechanism is bananes into an ASUS Zenith extreme with 32 gigs of tridentz RGB RAM and a thermal take ring RGB cooler as for competition all three of our other test benches will be represented x299 z270 and x370 and as for performance well surprisingly our 1950x actually beat out the competition in Rise of the Tomb Raider and DSX mankind devis but then fell well behind the pack along with the 1920x in CSO not quite sure why that would be but it pulls up alongside team blue again in our synthetics so maybe we'll chalk it up to the ongoing game engine optimization for ryzen that AMD has been shouting out or just another source engine Quirk to throw in the pile moving on to productivity benchmarks this is where it gets really interesting while our synthetics show Threadripper more or less trading blows with the core I 9 even in multi-threaded workloads when we get into rendering with cinebench R15 and blender our 12 core 1920x is competitive with the core I 9 7900x and our 1950x is way out front like by a lot our two Threadripper CPUs also had the lowest performance drop during our combined streaming and local recording test with OBS in CSO beautiful so what's the catch Linus does it light up like a Roman Candle do we need a pocket nuclear reactor to power it well if you're overclocking actually maybe more on that to come but at stock speed Threadripper manages this kind of multi-threading performance at roughly a dozen more watts and 10 more de under synthetic load compared to the core I 9 and at these prices the value proposition especially for professionals is outstanding for gamers unless you're streaming or 3D rendering at the same time you're gaming Threadripper isn't going to be the best value but for pros it's frankly starting to look like a no-brainer if your workload relies on multi-threading performance or lots of adding cards now it remains to be seen how team blue will react if at all but given their negative press against AMD's epic and Threadripper products for Data Center and workstation use it's safe to say they're beginning to feel a little hot under the colar but that's okay Intel AMD's got a uh Threadripper that can help you with that get it it's a joke cuz you could rip the fabric whoa our buddies at cable mod bought an LTT integration business must be good and for good reason they're great people and they make great products and they've got a new product to announce today they're sleeving kits for aios they let you add the same cable mod vibrant colors to your all-in-one liquid cooler that you previously could on your cables and they are color matched so your aiio tubing can actually match your mod mesh cables installation is super easy you don't have to disassemble your cooler or anything like that you just wrap mod wrap sleeving around your AI tubing and complete the look with the included fastening Clips so check them out and maybe buy one buy one at the link in the video description so thanks for watching guys this video sucked you know what to do but it was awesome get subscribed hit that like button or check out the link to where to buy the stuff we featured in the video description also linked in the description is our merch store which has cool shirts like this one and our 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