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right out of the gate this is a super weird product because the processor

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inside this case is the AMD 4700s a product that is

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readily available and listed on AMD.com

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and yet there is absolutely no obvious

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way to buy it now you can get your hands on them but especially if you're in

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north america you're gonna have to go a little bit outside of your comfort zone

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we did find a listing on newegg but at a thousand dollars it's extremely

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overpriced so checking out sites like aliexpress or taobao is going to be a

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better bet of course that doesn't really answer the

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question of what exactly it is we're getting here let's crack this thing open

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even more i am extremely

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curious about this puppy that one hole

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is rather enlarged it's aluminum but i don't think it's high grade

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the more pure the aluminum is the more malleable it'll be you want an alloy

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okay i mean overall the case doesn't seem like super hot garbage this is a

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john's bow case right or at least oh i assumed that because i saw that this is

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a john's bow oh wait no it's a hunt keypad where did i see john's boat so i

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saw john's bow somewhere it's got a john's bow fan in it so that's a looks

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like 92 millimeter exhaust fan at the

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back of the case and your intake is going to be handled by drawing fresh air

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in from the side panel the other more different side panel and the top panel

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of course the big thing i want to have a look at is this power supply because

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while i've actually heard of hunt key it's never in a positive context i'm

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actually kind of surprised at how much this thing weighs huh for how cheap i'm

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expecting it to be but that doesn't mean that i'm going to plug it in if you look

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carefully you'll notice that this is not a

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dual mode power supply there's no switch and does not support a 110 volt 60 hertz

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input what that means is that if we plugged this thing in best case scenario

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would do nothing worst case scenario it could burn the place down our best guess

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is they went with a 200 to 240 volt input to avoid paying for active power

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factor correction circuitry inside the power supply which doesn't inherently

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mean that it is a bad unworthy power supply but when a manufacturer is

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cheaping out on what has been considered a basic feature for the last 20 years it

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ain't a good look it's also really dangerous because while this label is

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pretty clear that you should only plug in 220 volt 50 hertz power in the event

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that it accidentally gets peeled off which could happen there is nothing

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preventing you from just lighting your house on fire or the fact it's just

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inside of the case from the factory oh wait what oh that's right you would have

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no way of knowing when it's already installed in here yeah i didn't even

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think of that part to be clear we're not blaming AMD for this it's not their

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fault that the system integrator who designed this system decided to cheap

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out in that way it just is a thing you should probably know as i continue

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disassembling this thing i'm struck by how many different kinds of screws are

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in it not unlike an fu we wanted to make this thing hard to reassemble sort of

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way but in a it really just seems like we use whatever kinds of screws we found

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on the floor of the shop kind of way

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it doesn't even have a native eight pin connector like look at the gauge of this

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wiring compared to the adapter that they used because they probably just couldn't

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find an adapter that had such thin gauge crappy wiring now this is weird i was

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not expecting a graphics card in the system looks like this is an rx 550 2gig

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cheapo aluminum cooler on it no obvious markings to indicate who the oem is for

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it because the thing is the chip in the playstation 5 is more of an apu that's

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to say it has both a CPU and a GPU baked

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onto the same piece of silicon so i'm starting to have my doubts that what's

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under this cooler is even a playstation 5 processor oh my god are these

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standoffs just like glued into the case now i normally wouldn't lean quite so

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heavily into a cheap computer for having a cheap power supply in a cheap case but

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this system wasn't that cheap whoa look at the size of that back plate that

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is nothing like a standard AMD back plate

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huh so here's where we're getting into the part that AMD actually makes so

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we've got an AMD logo still screened onto this board and it looks like the

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whole thing is meant to be sold as one integrated unit there is no

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socket it's soldered right to the main board and this is also really

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interesting there's an Intel stock cooler style cooler on this uh have you

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noticed that there's like no RAM yet oh that makes sense because it would be

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just baked into the soc oh my god it only has a pci express by 8

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slot down here so it's a 16x physical slot but it's only actually wired up for

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eight lanes no m.2 which is weird because the playstation 5 has m.2 but

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then the playstation 5 doesn't have a

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pci express slot this is super weird you want to know something else that's very

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unfortunate about that pci express slot it's gen 2.

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there's any doubt that this cooler is custom we can put that to rest wait what

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there's four more screws for just the back plate i don't know whether my

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expectations are higher or lower after seeing how jank this is

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oh this may be the single weirdest

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motherboard that i have ever held you know what's funny i was looking at the

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layout of these traces around the board i was like this is so weird it kind of

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looks like they all just go out in a circle and come back because they do

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this thing is trippy but is it actually

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a playstation 5 chip only one way to find out oh well that trace layout looks

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really familiar it could not be more similar yeah that's

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uh wow i mean you don't have to have a degree in electronics engineering to

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figure out that these are probably architected somewhat similarly

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yep wow you know i've never actually been close up with a playstation board

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yet so i guess these are the nand packages there's your add-in m.2 slot

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this is for the water cooled playstation 5 project right yeah i guess you could

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probably say was for the water cooled playstation 5 project at this point oh

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interesting a bunch of the caps on the back are missing let's see what the markings on the dice say you ready

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brandon big reveal no dye markings yeah i'm pretty sure

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they just sanded the dye markings right off of it does the regular playstation 5

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have die markings there's no markings on the die enough marveling at its

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weirdness though let's throw this thing back together and see how she flies okay

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moment of truth hey it's got an RGB fan in it nice john's bow do you hear how

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loud that fan is oh wow we went straight to BIOS because

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i forgot to plug in the SATA cable 4700s eight core processor desktop kit so this

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is gonna be zen two based not zen three

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like the latest 5000 series ryzens there's like nothing else in here that's

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configurable in any way that has anything to do with that so oh my god

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it's at 87 degrees did i not put it back on right there isn't even any UEFI

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non-UEFI like boot mode nothing yeah and

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did you see the uh RAM stats that they had there

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16 gigs oh not bad that's the same amount as the playstation 5 right well

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but normally you would have stuff like ddr4 3200 megahertz like what speed it

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runs at but no no because this is going to be GDDR or whatever like gddr6 right

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yeah oh interesting what the heck is CPU gonna say about this thing

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don't spoil it alex sorry everything about this thing is just so

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weird even the way that they adapt this cooler with just a couple of punched out

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steel mounting plates like it's very almost diy when you're applying thermal

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compound to a bare dye you have to be a lot more careful to cover the whole

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thing because you don't want any hot spots when there's a spreader over top

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of it it's not that big of a deal but oh no

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that thermal compound this isn't even the good tasting one

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hey alex how do you gallop into the BIOS

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you missed it it's a bit of a drag that doesn't support an m.2 boot drive oh

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wait whoa hi how you doing is this the pre-installed Windows image uh yes oh

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okay we're up here it is ladies and gentlemen this is a gaming machine for

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gamers okay CPU AMD 4700s eight core processor desktop

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kit i don't think there's any way to buy this thing standalone that's why we

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ended up with this weird janky system it was just the cheapest one we could find

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memory 16 gigs and that's it

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wow that's weird it has an on-board usb

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3 to Ethernet bridge what

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i'm just i i want to check that sony's

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using a completely separate outboard Ethernet controller chip no idea how

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it's connected to the rest of the chipset so obviously they had to find a

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different solution for this board and they went with a usb to Ethernet bridge

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weird oh hey whoa hardware info pulls it

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up oh wait oh damn nope never mind that's the gddr5 on the GPU that is some

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uncanny valley stuff we got going on right there wow that fan is going boys

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it's going it's going get immersed Linus no it looks like

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poopoo and i want to see something that's better looking let's go

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hello oh my god

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i have to go turn off the power or something i don't care

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okay you know what this is good enough at least we're not into seconds per

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frame territory here but this is not a great experience

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yeah this is a playstation 4 game it's not even a ps5 game do you want to just

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try it with a better GPU now can we at least turn down some settings or

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something oh well we're on ultimate quality why would it be at ultimate

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quality by default especially when it knows you don't have the minimum

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requirements let's see if that's any better

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yeah you might have like seven FPS now no i was like 10.

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this looks like a giant boatload of garbage though

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whoa calm down geez now one potential problem will this

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even fit do you have anything else

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2060 that's reasonable if it wasn't already apparent while this might be

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exactly the same silicon it clearly doesn't have the same functionality as

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the soc or apu or whatever you want to call it that's built into the

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playstation 5. there's no GPU and we can

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already see that some of the i o choices that were made on this motherboard are

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different from what sony did on the playstation 5's board my expectations

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are honestly not super high though PCIe gen two by eight

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by four by four i thought it's by eight supports

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by four gen two signal

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the reason we have such a lack of pci express connectivity on that thing is

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because with the playstation 5 just like any modern CPU you've got a bunch of pci

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express lanes that are built into the soc here but on the playstation 5

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they're used to connect with only a couple of things this i o hub slash

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controller hub down here that also access the playstation 5's SSD as well

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as right here to this m.2 storage expansion slot most of these lanes are

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actually going to be wired up to the GPU that's built into this so if that's just

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not connected it's non-trivial to to to tap into those links you can't do that

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so we're stuck with whatever it had to communicate with a

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chipset which this also needs and then whatever it had to communicate with an

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SSD the question then becomes are we limited by this pci express

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bandwidth or could there be something else let's explore another idea by benchmarking our

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starting with a memory read speed benchmark we've got around 59 000

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megabytes a second okay and oh wow look

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at that 62 000 megabytes a second that's

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a lot of memory bandwidth but what you got to understand is that GPU memory

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latencies where you might run into trouble

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wowie 140

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nanoseconds i mean that's not a lot of time right these are nanoseconds we're

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talking about except that that is slower than a pentium d820 a CPU from 15 years

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ago oh my god it's slower than basically everything i haven't looked at this rank

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that's hilarious yeah like this is this is higher latency than cpus that don't

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have an integrated memory controllers to put this in context our ryzen 5000

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series over here is more like 60 nanoseconds that is gonna make a huge

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difference in regular desktop applications yeah you can even do just

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the open chrome test to see the difference

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i just run center bench see what happens while we wait for this to finish let's

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talk about why AMD didn't just allow you to plug in regular old ddr4 to this

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thing because you can that's the thing about AMD's custom silicon division

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anything that sony or microsoft don't need on the chip it's not on there

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that's why you got to do this weird memory on the back thing just like on

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the playstation 5.

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3600 points is that half it's over half

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but not by much this is 6 000 points all of which raises a very big question here

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why oh why does this product even exist

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and the answer is because it already did

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when you're manufacturing microprocessors the odds of getting it

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right every single time is basically zero sure some of your chips are going

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to have all of the CPU cores and GPU cores functioning and they're going to

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be within the power and thermal targets that you set and those are going to end

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up in the playstation 5. but some of them are going to have runaway power

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consumption or they're going to have a GPU that doesn't work but the CPU still

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works well now instead of taking those and essentially turning them into

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e-waste AMD has repurposed them into these budget motherboard CPU RAM combo

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things and fundamentally i love this move taking something that would have

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otherwise been wasted and turning it into something functional freaking

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awesome my main issue with this product is that from a value per dollar

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perspective not great at 400 in china

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remember that's just for the board CPU and RAM you can get much much better

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performance for the dollar and at a thousand dollars here in north america

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it's absolutely out of the question ridiculously overpriced so

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good effort just like it's a good effort

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work docs always stays relevant you can connect your work docs to your workflows

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enjoyed this video hey you know what maybe check out the weird chinese

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console that we got our hands on a couple of years ago it also featured uh

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like what seemed like kind of reject

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playstation or xbox socs with graphics

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memory on it but that one was intended to be like an actual pre-built thing you

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bought as like a weird console with Windows really really strange product