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00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:47,280 that would make it so that I would actually uh you see I'm holding an 8s 12 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:51,879 now because I spent the last week of my I switched using the 8S rather than the 13 00:00:49,239 --> 00:00:56,879 8X the reason for that being that especially when I'm typing so um on the 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:01,199 8X I have small hands and I've had people say oh get a note too because 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,400 you'll get no I'm not going to get used to it I'm not going to get used to my 16 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:08,159 hands are actually just small and can't reach so so I wanted to switch to a 17 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:12,799 phone that I can actually type on handed with like I could on my iPhone 4 and I 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,240 found that pretty much fixed every complaint I had about the keyboard and 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,200 the keyboard now that I've spent some time with it on a phone that I can 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:24,360 actually use I like a lot better than iOS and it's for a couple simple things 21 00:01:22,119 --> 00:01:27,680 number one is the inclusion of smilees here that makes a big difference and 22 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:31,159 then there's uh there's your most recently used ones and you can it'll 23 00:01:29,479 --> 00:01:35,439 just default to that every time once you select that so so you can just navigate 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:39,159 to all the ones that you actually like and the inclusion of period and comma 25 00:01:37,479 --> 00:01:43,840 here because I do actually still care about punctuation even though I'm mostly 26 00:01:41,079 --> 00:01:47,360 texting so totally got used to that liked that about it but I have a whole 27 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:53,439 other list of stuff that's bothering me so I've been using Row for tweets uh 28 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:55,399 which is uh apparently yeah there it is 29 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:59,560 looks a little something like that and I was having some weird issues with it 30 00:01:57,479 --> 00:02:03,399 like in the timeline I'd click something here but it would actually open up the 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,280 one under it or two under it there'd be like these weird offsets on the touch 32 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:10,920 interface and it was driving me crazy to the point where I was ready to just get 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:15,319 off Windows Phone 8 entirely because the stock Twitter app is was horrible and 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:20,920 then Rowe was having all these issues but Twitter has updated their native app 35 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:25,440 um and it is actually pretty awesome now like they've actually put some time and 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,120 attention to it into it to the same sort 37 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:33,519 of standard as on the other platforms so it's uh yeah really really liking the 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:37,959 Twitter experience although this sort of um epitomizes some of or not epitomizes 39 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,720 I don't know whatever it illustrates some of the issues I've had with Windows 40 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:44,720 Phone 8 in general so a lot of the apps tend to be not that well labeled if 41 00:02:42,519 --> 00:02:48,120 you're not already a Twitter user so you you haven't used Twitter on a mobile 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:53,680 platform before and you go you open up the Twitter app on Windows Phone what is 43 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,560 everything okay home I get what's that 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,080 what's that what's that what's the difference between this and home I don't 45 00:02:56,959 --> 00:03:01,720 know so you have to actually just like dink around with in order to figure out 46 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:08,760 what anything is and I mean if you're experienced Twitter user sure but as someone coming into it like this just 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:13,840 isn't it's just not labeled well you know like there's these things down here 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:18,560 you got some like settings and stuff and yeah anyway so we're done with that um 49 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:24,599 yeah so way better uh overall um I prefer swipes to clicks so 50 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:30,200 I prefer SC so uh one of the complaints I had early on was that I whoops okay 51 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,400 well let's go back to hold on uh you 52 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:36,799 know what let's go to a song list that'll do as if you guys can't just 53 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:41,799 freeze the frame and read that stuff anyway so let's go to a oh right I don't 54 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:47,040 have the music loaded onto the 8S okay fine we will go to we'll go to a contact 55 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:51,280 list right okay so the way that you navigate um from letter to letter is 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:57,760 instead of scrolling down the side like you do on Android and iOS you click here 57 00:03:54,599 --> 00:04:01,200 and then click the letter of let me just 58 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:03,040 make sure there's nothing sh here yeah 59 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:08,360 sure whatever so you and then you click the letter and it takes it jumps to the 60 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:10,360 right spot um I actually find this not 61 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:17,000 as easy to work with for a couple of reasons number one is that I find like I 62 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,759 said I find touches less intuitive than just scrolling down the right hand side 63 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:23,759 because that's where my thumb is anyway I'm right-handed for a left-handed 64 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:27,639 person maybe that's not as good the other thing is that now that I'm here I 65 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,560 kind of have to hunt and Peck because it's going to be a long time before I 66 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:36,080 memorize this grid and if I'm looking for e that's actually not conveniently 67 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,759 within my reach whereas this entire right side is within my reach so I find 68 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:45,479 that faster and more intuitive and that goes for scrolling long lists whether 69 00:04:41,919 --> 00:04:47,880 it's uh contacts whether it's installed 70 00:04:45,479 --> 00:04:52,199 applications or whether it's uh things like music I just I find this not as 71 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,440 good and then you see when you don't have something for every letter like 72 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:59,919 some of them are just kind of grayed out and it just it makes it more visually 73 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:04,520 confusing I find to actually navigate it uh generally speaking far more crashes 74 00:05:02,039 --> 00:05:07,840 and hangs than iOS um in my month of using it and I think that's one of the 75 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:12,120 reasons why it's important to use the platform for a month before drawing any 76 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,520 conclusions I mean I did the the in progress updates where you know some of 77 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,960 them you know I'd say things that were just totally wrong and I'd say things 78 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:24,199 that that were right but sort of more by chance than from experience with it 79 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,720 whereas now I actually feel like I know how to use the platform and any 80 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:31,039 complaints I have are based on we know this is what it's actually like to use 81 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:36,560 it for a long period of time um one thing I noticed about the 8 8s versus 82 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:41,520 the 8X was that the spacebar is the thing that seems to get uh shorter you 83 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,600 got a little tiny space bar in there so I know I said that I do like things like 84 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:49,280 the smiley face but I mean come on language why does that need to be there so space bar would be something that I 85 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:53,800 would have liked to see extended because I find myself often hitting these 86 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:58,280 instead um on the condensed keyboard on the 8S so the 8X had a slightly bigger 87 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:04,280 one just because of the W the the bigger screen um I prefer folders and desktops 88 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:08,759 for navigation uh versus this tile interface because tile is interesting 89 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:13,240 and I mean okay so you press the Windows button to go up to the top and you know 90 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:17,960 you can prioritize things based on size but what I discovered is even on the 8X 91 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:23,080 which has a bigger screen I am never going to want to make an 92 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:25,479 icon like here uh let's find one that 93 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:29,000 goes full size like photos goes full size I 94 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:34,919 think I'm never going to want to make an icon like or not an icon whatever a tile 95 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:39,880 this big because it takes up so much space that it's just ridiculous like 96 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:47,280 maybe if it was something that I absolutely needed to have sort of in my 97 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:49,160 way all the time then fine but as it is 98 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:53,720 if you're even using so if you're using those you'd get like three per scroll on 99 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,440 your screen if you're using the medium-sized ones you're only going to 100 00:06:55,479 --> 00:07:02,319 get about eight per scroll on your screen and if you're using the small 101 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,080 ones even then you're only getting about 102 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:08,919 what whatever it is like 32 per screen so you're actually 103 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:13,120 scrolling to find applications whereas when you compare that to a folder based 104 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:16,879 structure like on the iPhone 4 where you can go folder folder folder folder 105 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:21,000 folder folder folder folder and put like nine things in each one it's less 106 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:26,560 hunting for things because you categorize them you go okay I want my 107 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:28,560 utilities one click two clicks and I'm 108 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,960 in whereas if I have to go scroll scroll scroll to find something something I 109 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,639 mean even okay so on iOS I might scroll from desktop to desktop I keep 110 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,199 everything on my first and second page so I might have to go scroll click click 111 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,720 so I find that that a little bit easier and okay so the the argument after that 112 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,000 is oh well you can just swipe to the right and see all your apps that way 113 00:07:44,599 --> 00:07:53,720 scrolling slow and then I still have to go click click potentially scroll click 114 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:57,599 to actually get into something and the interface for anything should always be 115 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:01,960 as few clicks as possible and I find that this tile interface doesn't really 116 00:07:59,599 --> 00:08:05,159 achieve that for me dedicated camera button Awesome every phone should have 117 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,840 one um I'd love it if it was a little bit more stiff cuz I found myself 118 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:13,280 accidentally hitting it but when you want it just being ready to go sort of 119 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:17,400 hold down a button and you're ready to take pictures is is actually just kind 120 00:08:15,479 --> 00:08:21,159 of freaking amazing uh one of the other problems for me and it I mean mobile 121 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:26,080 platforms it's all about apps Cloud media is not nearly uh or a cloud player 122 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:30,599 or whatever they call this thing is not nearly as polished as air video on iOS I 123 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,120 found that extremely frustrating because I do like to watch videos on my phone 124 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:42,719 that I stream from my home server so um yeah Skype integration also wasn't as uh 125 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:44,399 as smooth as it is with iOS so I mean 126 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:48,640 check out the Skype app hopefully I'm doing something wrong here and someone 127 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:52,839 can post a comment on the video uh oh whatever I'm not signed in well okay the 128 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:56,440 point is uh no it's okay I couldn't find a setting within Skype to make it so 129 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:01,480 that it stayed signed in all the time and would push me chat notifications it 130 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:05,600 just worked on iOS it's like Yay Apple it just works um but no but seriously it 131 00:09:03,959 --> 00:09:10,720 just worked and then this one it's like I got Skype calls but not um written 132 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:16,680 message notifications I mean that's very frustrating to me because i' find them 133 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,920 like hours later uh so yeah it just okay 134 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:24,480 so what I'm trying to say is maybe there's a way to make it work maybe you can force it to somehow but what I said 135 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:29,680 was Skype integration is not as smooth as iOS because you have to fuss with it 136 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:33,440 so that's very confusing and the inability to turn off auto rotate 137 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:38,160 honestly is just a deal breaker for me like I can't function without being able 138 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:42,839 to turn off auto rotate even on iOS I find it incredibly frustrating that on 139 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:47,360 the phone you can only lock in portrait you can't lock in landscape but not 140 00:09:45,079 --> 00:09:54,240 being able to lock at all being forced to have auto rotate on no matter what is 141 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:56,399 just asinine um and and there's a huge 142 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,720 thread on Microsoft's forums asking for it I've had people tell me no you must 143 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,320 be wrong there must be a way to do it no there actually isn't a way to do it even 144 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:08,200 though it must be the simplest possible thing um to to integrate so it just 145 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,480 it'll always auto rotate so what that means is if you actually want to view 146 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,920 something in portrait mode and you're laying in bed you want to read something 147 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:19,000 oh oh it moves around oh well actually hold on no I don't want to so you have 148 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:24,920 to kind of hold it like this and then scroll through it's just ridiculous um 149 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,800 one thing that was way better than iOS is integrating multiple accounts so 150 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:34,079 going okay yeah I want like Hotmail calendar and a Gmail calendar and I want 151 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,600 some other random thing and I want my Facebook and my LinkedIn contacts and I 152 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:44,079 want my Gmail contacts the way that it integrates things within the People app 153 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:50,240 here as well as your contacts as well as your calendar is just awesome way better 154 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:53,720 than iOS where there's certain things that are just randomly weirdly locked 155 00:10:52,079 --> 00:10:57,480 down like iOS will grab your Google calendar but not your Google Contacts 156 00:10:55,959 --> 00:11:03,839 and you have to kind of fight with it whereas this one you just kind of go sign sign in sign in sign in sign in 157 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:05,959 done and I mean even things like um like 158 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:09,760 multiple entries where you have someone on Facebook and Linkedin and you had 159 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:13,760 them in your phone already it'll even merge them and then there's tools to to 160 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:18,519 merge them differently or unmerge them or play around with them however you need to absolutely awesome that's 161 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:22,920 probably one of the high points of Windows Phone 8 for me uh Nokia's Drive 162 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,320 app was another one I don't think know if it's called noia Drive anymore it 163 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:31,320 seems to be called here drive now I don't know why they would have changed the number oh yeah this is going to show 164 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:34,680 where I I am right now but that's okay um is awesome when it finds your 165 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:40,040 destination I found it was a little bit less uh reliable than Google Apps for me 166 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:44,600 or Google Maps rather for me here in uh in Vancouver Canada so there you go it 167 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:48,560 might be perfect where you live but I I found it a little bit less consistent um 168 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,959 Internet Explorer is awesome compared to Safari um going back to Internet 169 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:57,560 Explorer one of the things I complained about last time was needing to go in here for tabs apparently this refresh 170 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,600 button can be changed to a tab button but that still means I have to go two 171 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:07,200 places for refresh and I found that frustrating as well um so it's again 172 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:12,839 it's just that more clicks thing and last but not least see that see the time 173 00:12:09,079 --> 00:12:14,240 there okay so if I'm actually like I I 174 00:12:12,839 --> 00:12:21,560 understand you want to use as much space as possible for um just sort of actually 175 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,880 viewing your content but I think that uh because so many people are moving away 176 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:29,399 from wearing watches and moving towards using their phones as their only real 177 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:34,079 time piece I found that not having quick easy access to that information um so 178 00:12:32,199 --> 00:12:37,279 especially battery life there's a battery life app I don't know if I've 179 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:41,000 actually moved it onto the desktop of the uh of the 8S no it looks like I 180 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:46,760 haven't but having things like battery life by percentage and time and cell 181 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:51,000 reception always at the top I think is worth it because it's just ridiculous 182 00:12:49,279 --> 00:12:54,880 when you're when you're watching a video for example actually I don't know if uh 183 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:59,480 I don't know if this one's going to work right now okay well let's not worry too much 184 00:12:57,639 --> 00:13:03,560 about like that here let's go to met Tu metr tu's awesome I really like this uh 185 00:13:01,959 --> 00:13:10,360 really like this YouTube app so let's find something and we're watching some 186 00:13:07,199 --> 00:13:12,120 video so I'm used to in iOS just 187 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:19,120 pressing on something and having the time show up for me and I I I like that 188 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:21,040 so I missed that always knowing the time 189 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:25,360 um I think that's pretty much it so at the end of the day I won't be switching 190 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:31,560 but what I will be doing is I will be doing an Android ey switched with the 191 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:33,240 allnew HTC1 phone so this is pretty much 192 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:38,279 as highend as it gets for an Android phone so I'm going to give it a shot and 193 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:41,720 slicks got a little smirk on his face going on over there because I said I 194 00:13:39,839 --> 00:13:46,720 wouldn't do it but I'll be going back to my iPhone 4 in the meantime oh honestly 195 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,360 having a newer phone really made me see how slow the iPhone 4 is now cuz I'd 196 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:54,240 gotten used to it I used it for like two years so that that part's going to be 197 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,759 hard to go back to I kind of wish I had a more upto-date phone but uh so I'm 198 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:02,480 going to go back to the iPhone 4 till I can get my hands on an HTC one but this 199 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,079 has been fun and guys leave a comment if you've hung in this long leave a comment 200 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:11,120 under the video because I will be giving away an HTC 8s I was going to give away 201 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:16,040 the 8X but it turns out someone needed it so I'll be giving away an HTC 8s to 202 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,440 one of the people who comments under the video give me like a couple weeks and 203 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:23,839 then I'll contact you and you'll be getting a free phone yay and as always 204 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:29,040 don't forget to subscribe to L's Tech tips from unboxings reviews and other computer 205 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 videos