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just a few short weeks ago we got a firsthand look at the latest book in

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Lord gab's gospel the valve steam deck

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it's the PC Gamers version of a Nintendo switch except instead of running light

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casual games it can run the latest AAA titles it looks freaking awesome but the

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thing is while valve is definitely pushing the landscape forward when it

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comes to handheld gaming they are not the only player in this field and their

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competition isn't standing still the

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this right here is the GPD win Max 2021

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Edition it's the first time that GPD has

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ever built a ryzen handheld and it has eight Flippin Zen 2 cores but wait

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there's more this is the GPD win Max

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2021 Edition Intel Edition the first GPD

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handheld with Intel XC graphics and they're the most powerful onboard

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Graphics we've seen from Intel yet man

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they are going to be some interesting stories to

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tell plot twist I'm going to kick things off with the Intel version because this

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is the first device we've ever gotten hands on with with Intel's

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top-of-the-line tiger Lake CPU the core i7 1195 G7

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and on paper anyway it promises to be an

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absolute Beast it's got four cores eight threads boosts up to 5 GHz can be

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configured to multiple TDP levels up to 25 watts and perhaps most importantly

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has 96 Iris XE compute units in its

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onboard GPU which means it should be significantly faster than the ryzen 4800

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U and who knows maybe even competitive

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with the upcoming rdna2 graphics on the steam deck that's what I really want to

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find out while we've got it open this is a perfect opportunity to compare the GPD

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wi Max 20 21 against what we know about

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the steam deck first and foremost the CPU and memory are both soldered to the

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main board but that's pretty much a given in any machine this compact where

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they differ is the SSD they both use a standard m.2 slot which is great that

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means if you're willing to put the work in valve has said that theoretically the

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steam deck should be upgradeable but it should be noted that this one it will a

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be easier to upgrade and B probably more worthwhile because the steam uses a 30

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mm m.2 which up until now I believe only

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even goes up to 1 TB of capacity whereas the GPD wi Max 2021 uses an 80 mm m.2

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which uh looks like you could only fit a single sided so that's good to know

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which means you could go up to 4 tbytes at least presently while we're digging

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around in here some other notable features are the Dual stereo speakers micro SD slot the steam deck has one of

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those as well for storage expansion the Intel Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chipset as

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well as a full fullsize gigabit Ethernet Jack which gives us our first hint as to

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what the real intended use of the GPD win Maxes because this is more than just

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a gaming machine which isn't to say that it's not gaming focused both valve and

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GPD have taken very different approaches to how to handle joysticks if there's

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one thing we know for sure it's that lowprofile joysticks do have reliability

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issues that we as Gamers have observed over the years so GPD rather than

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increased the profile of the Machine by having the joysticks stick up out of it

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has actually sunk the joysticks into the top deck of the laptop and then you can

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see here they take up almost the entire depth of the machine inside and they've

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actually had to build the PCB around them there's no doubt in my mind that

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valves handheld has a better integrated controller but to gpd's credit these

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joysticks feel pretty darn good for lowprofile ones so does the d-pad and

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the abxy buttons have both nice click switches as well as this is a really

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nice touch secondary printing on the legend with a cross circle square

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triangle for PlayStation users because let's face it you're going to be

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emulating games unfortunately both the shoulder

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and Trigger buttons use the same switches so if you're super into driving

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games or anything where you want that nice fine analog control on your trigger

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you're not going to find it here but it does make up a lot of that ground in IO

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so in addition to your Ethernet port you've got HDMI 2.0 2 USB type A's and

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yes my friends Thunderbolt that means

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any number of docking Solutions and even external graphics cards which naturally

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we'll be trying later and that's to say nothing about one of the windmax 2021s

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biggest undocked benefits the massive

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57w hour battery now Intel's tiger Lake

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chips they're pretty power hungry but GPD claims that's still good for up to 3

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hours of use under heavy load with up to 14 hours under a light load of course

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you're going to want to configure your TDP and squeeze even more out of it

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right let's screw this thing back together and see if it still works now

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that we're in Windows one last bit of IO I didn't show you is this cool toggle

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switch right here it changes the GamePad into a native Mouse mode so that unlike

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other handheld devices you don't have to have a little utility running in the

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system tray it just freaking works so

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your left shoulder button is your left click and it actually rebinds um some of the keys as well so

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you can see this left analog stick Is WD

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so it allows it to work in more of like a a keyboard mouse mode if that is for

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whatever reason what you prefer with some games that could be better one

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thing I noticed just moving the mouse around though is that while the 8-in

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display on the Wind Max 2021 runs at the same 1280 by 800 resolution as the steam

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deck and it's IPS and actually gets like

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quite quite bright you can see there's a

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fair bit of smearing as I move the mouse around can you see that this is not the

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most responsive display I've ever seen to be clear this is not a game breaker

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it's only a 60 HZ display so it's not like you're going to be like oh wow this

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is just a completely smear mess or anything like that but I have seen

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better Moment of Truth do maternal launch we made it this far last time

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yeah we made it to where the master chief is standing on his

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thing it's not master chief I know you

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you had to you had to you had to say something oh oh wow oh oh oh it had a

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little little moment there let me flip it into controller mode here holy

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shnikes this might actually work which shouldn't really be that impressive but

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okay I want to go back o oh it's definitely got some issues some issues

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here we go we've got both machines configured to their maximum TDP so

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around 25 watts although you can see that according to rivet tuner Intel is

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actually drawing significantly more than that sometimes as high as around 35

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Watts but the bigger takeaway here is

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not necessarily that Intel's drawing more power but rather that Intel is

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actually not managing nearly the same frame rate even when it is running

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smoothly so what are we getting around 35 40 FPS when it's

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going yeah sometimes it doesn't go as

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much whoa not only not only that but you

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can see our Intel CPU managed 100°

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Max meanwhile our AMD system remember

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this is with a 4800 U is running at a

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pretty consistent 60 plus FPS and this

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is at exactly the same setting so all medium native resolution with motion

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blur turned off man this is O this is way more

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playable you know though I am surprised

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at how close this performances to the rdna 2 graphics in the steam deck when I

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compared head-to-head and do maternal while I was at valve's headquarters I

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found that the steam deck was about 50% faster looking at exactly the same scene

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as the aan Neo so let's go ahead and take the a Neo into this same scene and

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check this out we're running it anywhere from around 35 up to around 50 FPS but

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generally in the 40 to 45 range this is

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not what I was expecting but we also know that Doom maternal is not properly

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optimized on Intel XC Graphics so let's move on to something else hopefully in

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dirt 5 we're going to see a more even competition here the Intel machine

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managed to load into the game a bit faster but that's not particularly

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meaningful from like a gaming enjoyments

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to okay wow this is a dead heat Intel looks like

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they might be maybe maybe like three to

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five 5% ahead in performance but it's oh

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maybe not holy crap I don't remember the

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last time I saw anything be this close AMD versus Intel only the results will

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tell us the answer in the meantime I want to run the a Neo because this is

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the one device that I've had a chance to run head-to-head against the steam deck

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so that will hopefully give us an idea of where the steam deck Falls in all of

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this obviously I'd rather be testing the steam deck right now but I don't have

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one wow these are close when we look at average frame rates they're within about

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1% of each other although I still consider this a win for Intel since

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their minimums didn't dip quite as low though certainly this isn't as big a win

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as Doom maternal was for AMD as for the a&o its result of around 30 FPS seems to

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suggest that both of our wind Maxes could very well end up within Striking

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Distance of the steam deck though of course it should be noted that these are

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both 25 wat TDP CPUs rather than 15

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watts next up F1 2021 we're running at

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Native resolution low settings TAA enabled man this is a really goodlooking

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game even at low oh wow Intel is slaying

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it here the 4800u and the AMD wind Max

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is already looking like it might end up competitive with the steam deck maybe a

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little bit behind but the Intel machine is running at 80 almost 90 plus FPS in

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some places like we could actually probably turn this up to medium that is

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a big difference in performance

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who that's not even close wow Intel's a

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solid 30% ahead of AMD on this one then

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after that great showing I managed to make it as far as the prologue cinematic

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in Halo 4 and I got a fatal error in the

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game completely crashed come on Intel

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Graphics drivers like you guys are launching a discret card soon you got to

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be better than this to be clear I understand there's probably workarounds

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for just about all of this stuff in fact GPD even quotes performance numbers from

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Doom maternal on their website that are much better than what we observed but

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average users can't be expected to go find that stuff this is not a great

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experience both of them are running at well over a hundo FPS here though we see

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some dips very solid though very solid a thumb stick in two controllers at the

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same time would not recommend they call me sticky

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man so this is Little Big Planet this is running in a PS3 emulator

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rpcs3 and on the Intel system I mean we are getting a solid locked 30fps which

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is what this game runs at um but you can

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see it's got some problems meanwhile in the AMD system we're getting frame

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drops uh it says 29 FPS I don't believe

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it this is definitely not uh completely

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running properly but we're getting far fewer graphical anomalies although still

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some something to bear in mind though is that PlayStation 3 emulation is already

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very challenging because of the unconventional architecture of the

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PlayStation 3 and Little Big Planet in particular is quite demanding oh wow

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this is 60 FPS oh oh oh oh we got a

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see-through Sumo you check this out look at my see-through Sumo here knocked out

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baby I won I just clicked a a bunch this is totally playable oh for sure no this

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is this is like perfect this is totally usable wait a minute his clothes

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appeared yeah we just unlocked the frame rate so my oh wow the uh game speed is a

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little different but assuming that the in game physics is not tied to the frame

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rate because the developer a Chad um

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this is a way this wow my entire character is at the loading missing yeah

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this is very fast and very broken I'm at like anywhere from 100 to 120 FPS I'm

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like 90 but different map but I imagine that's probably has to do more the

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graphics not the the map I guess if you want to play Tekken six it works pretty

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good yeah I wouldn't recommend unlocking the frame rate though it seems a little

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more broken on the Intel one like I don't have that much stuff missing yeah

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oh it's definitely more broken on the Intel machine but it runs faster now

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mark bench our Benchmark for Premiere was designed for much more powerful

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systems than these ones but it can still tell us a lot so you can see here we've

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got four separate 4K Clips all playing back at the same time and on our Intel

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system it actually handles it and the

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transitions reasonably smoothly albeit at 1/8 resolution meanwhile on the AMD

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system we go from usable but not perfect

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to not really usable one thing that's

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nice about these that I didn't mention before is if you want it there is a

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trackpad it's not the greatest experience ever but there are times when

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it'll probably come in handy for you all right let's go ahead and start our

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encoding Benchmark now yeah I think our poor Intel system is just going to get

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slapped here there it goes it's just slow yeah if it can manage a victory

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here I'll be impressed wow this 4K encoding Benchmark ended up not even

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being close the Intel machine's been done for a solid 20 seconds already and

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the AMD machine is still finishing up even though we started the Intel machine

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slightly afterward cuz I misclicked so the big pattern that's emerging here is

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Tiger Lake and XC Graphics when they work they're fast and when they don't it

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sucks of course one of the key benefits of going with the Intel version is that

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you're not necessarily married to the onboard Graphics let's go ahead and dock

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it to this Gigabyte egpu box here it's

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got networking USB and of course an RTX

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380 graphics card in it let's see if it just fires up for us here look at that

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just like that oh we're going to need some drivers oh look at that Jake Jake

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preet up the drivers for us I need a mouse pad LTT

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store.com boom I mean let's see if it'll play Doom maternal

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now how do you like me now it's got this

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it's got this don't even worry about a thing keep the the this way up another

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key benefit of Thunderbolt I don't need my power adapter anymore I can just get

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power from the Thunderbolt connection to my dock casual 100 plus FPS Doom

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maternal absolutely maxed out it's actually running at that too like this

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is very smooth CPU is at 83° in terms of

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power it's pulling anywhere from around 27 to 2 8 watts so considering that

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we're not even touching the integrated Graphics that's pretty impressive like

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just absolutely no stutter whatsoever butter smooth who needs stutter when

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you've got butter now for dirt five we got this

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crank to ultra high we're going to turn on some Ray traced vehicle Shadows

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honestly the car Shadows are so soft

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because of the the the fact that the sun's behind the clouds that I'm having

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a hard time telling if they like look better because they're R traced or

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whatever yeah which is probably an indication that it's working yeah this

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is not a trivial game to run and it's

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like 55 to 60 FPS the whole time at 4K

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I'm just I keep watching these car Shadows here yeah I'm looks now that

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they're a bit harder that is

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very like accurate but something we haven't talked about up until now is

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what is the GPD when Max even like to use as a controller right now great

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Everything feels accurate and responsive the switches are all nice and

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clicky but I also have the device

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resting on a table in front of me if I had to actually hold it up it's pretty

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heavy and the ergonomics are far from perfect compared to most controllers

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where you're kind of cradling them like this and your thumbs have this great

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degree of movement on the Wind Max

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they're kind of stuck like this and it kind of brings your elbows in sort of

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funny so the design is only going to appeal to people who want a gaming

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device that is also useful for other things because even though the keyboard

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quite frankly sucks for typing it's obviously a lot better for typing than

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just not having one at all what we can't

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fault is the performance despite the fact that neither of the 2021 Edition

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win Maxes have rdna2 graphics and not to

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mention that they're only running ddr4 rather than ddr5 they both get

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surprisingly close to where we're expecting the steam deck to eventually

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land so as long as you don't find the form factor offputting you may not have

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to wait although you will definitely have to pay a significantly higher

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