1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 You guys have nowhere to put it. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,000 These are minor details, Elijah. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Minor details. That said, just because something's a minor detail 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:16,000 doesn't mean it's not important. I mean, the Epstein files was full of minor details. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,000 All right. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,000 I'm trying to not have a reaction for that. I'm trying to not have a reaction for that. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Listen, I know they leaked a while ago, but we shouldn't be over it. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:33,000 That's all I'm saying on the subject. You know what this PC is? 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Well, not all the parts, but like the case and the cooler and the motherboard specifically. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Well, here's the later. You'll never figure it out. 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 You've built this before. Not for me, but for a video. 12 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Oh, so I'm either one who did the RGB wiring? 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 No. No, it's the all China PC. 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,000 Oh. I wanted at the Christmas party two years ago. 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,000 It's the first thing I ever want. Can you tell that I don't like build PCs 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 when people are around me? Yeah. Your hands are shaking like crazy. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 I'm sorry. That's just normal. That's just me all the time. 18 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,000 They just shake. I'm having a bit of like a fanboy moment. 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 I've watched Linus Tech Tips since like 12 or 11 years old. 20 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:33,000 So this is like very strange for me to have you in my basement 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,000 build me a computer. It's really nice. It also just feels like strange at the same time. 22 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Oh, okay. You've been working here for like three years. 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Yeah, you've worked here for so long. Four years. We've had so many interactions. 24 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Yeah, so. It's different when you're actually in someone's house. 25 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Like at work, it's at work, but when you're in someone's house, 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 it's weird. Well, I didn't feel weird about it until now. 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000 It's my whole MO is to make him feel awkward. 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Good job. 29 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Cool. I already made that joke. 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 You can't do it again. That's my whole job. 31 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Writers make a joke and then I say it on camera. 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 You just regurgitate it. Wow, you really do just steal content, don't you? 33 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,000 Linus isn't the funny one, guys. 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Every joke I'm cracking today was written by someone else. 35 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Everything's actually 100% scripted. 100% scripted. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Even my line, sorry. He's just that good on a teleprompter. 37 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 For real. First time, too. Incredible, right? 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 This is great. How meta is it that we scripted this part in the video? 39 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I mean, it's because there was a full dress rehearsal yesterday. 40 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Everything you're seeing. Even my mom reacting like that. 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,000 I know you're busy with this, but is this another CPU power input? 42 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,000 No. What is it? You can tell that it's PCIe from the missing pixel here. 43 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 See the little notch there? Yeah, so it's PCIe. 44 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Basically the idea here is that there's only, I forget, I think it's like one or two 12-volt 45 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 wires in the 24-pin connector because back when this connector was designed, 12-volt 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,000 was not like the primary voltage for your power hungry components like your CPU and your 47 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:27,000 GPU. So what can happen if you actually put a bi-16 card in each one of these slots? 48 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 Oh, do they run out of power? They will pull up to 75 watts from the slot. 49 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Wow. So that would be 225 watts over that one wire. 50 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,000 So boards started getting these auxiliary PCIe connectors back in the SLI days. 51 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Or if you were running multiple cards, so these will help supply the PCIe slots. 52 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 I don't think I've ever had a motherboard where they've had this on it. 53 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Yeah, it's mostly not really a thing these days. 54 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,000 No, because SLI is dead. Yeah. 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:02,000 RIP. But now that people are putting multiple GPUs in for like AI crap, maybe it's coming 56 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 back, I'm not sure. I have a question. 57 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,000 If I'm swapping to a different brand of CPU, should I reinstall Windows? 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:17,000 It's never a terrible idea. These days, I have found that, yeah, Windows is pretty resilient about that sort of thing. 59 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 So you could maybe take your time on it. Okay. 60 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,000 But yeah, it's never a bad idea. Steam Deck 2? 61 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Yeah. You have a Switch? A Switch 2? 62 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 And your Steam Deck is decorative. 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:37,000 It's not even charging. I realize, I don't travel enough, and I kind of realize that I like just sitting at my computer 64 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 or I have like a 30-foot HDMI going to the TV. 65 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 You have a Switch Lite too? I didn't even see that. That's my girlfriend's. 66 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 I don't know if that makes it any better or not. 67 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 What do you mean that's your girlfriend's? What do you mean? 68 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 I mean, you have three better consoles and you make her use that? 69 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 No, she uses the Switch 1. 70 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 So you have two better consoles and you make her use the Switch 1? 71 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Yeah. She can play on the Switch 2 if she wants. 72 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 It's always hooked up to the TV. Another computer to put in a closet. 73 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Or, hear me out. 74 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Oh, well, yeah, that's an option. I mean, you've got like people's whole livelihood on your wrist right now with that RAM. 75 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,000 No, what I was going to say was, you know, or maybe actually, you know, have a setup for the girlfriend. 76 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Yeah, there are computers in there. Okay, okay. 77 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 I don't want to, I feel like an asshole. 78 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 So I feel like an ass that I have to keep explaining myself. 79 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,000 She likes the game, but she likes her desk just nice. 80 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 And this was her desk, nice and clean. Was her desk? 81 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 She's dead? Well, no, we just put stuff on it. 82 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 So it's not hers anymore? This is her desk. That's how you assert your dominance? 83 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 You just like, you just put your stuff on things? And then it's mine. 84 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 That's my table now. It's my screwdriver. This is my Linus now. 85 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,000 That escalated quickly. Thanks, Joe Biden. 86 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Jeez. It gets funnier every time you say it. 87 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,000 But the best jokes always do. I couldn't help noticing that your HDMI cable is just kind of chilling here. 88 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:18,000 You know how Windows does its thing where you like have three monitors connected, but they're all different sizes. 89 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Oh yeah. So I just leave that unplugged and plug it in whenever I want to use my TV. 90 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 That is such a cludgy, stupid solution. 91 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Really annoying. To a problem that shouldn't be a problem. 92 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:34,000 And I found applications that, you know, you can use like a hotkey to go back to the, you know, just the TV as a primary monitor. 93 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Yeah, yeah. There's a new one. 94 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Did you try the new one? Monarch. Have you tried Monarch? 95 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000 No, I've never heard of Monarch. Okay, yeah. It's a new one that supposedly like helps with multi-display management on Windows. 96 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:54,000 I remember in like my first year of working, we did that Aura video and we had to pull it down, right? 97 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah. And I came into work the next day and you were already in Colton's office and you're like, Sven, get in here. 98 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 I was so scared. I did? Yeah. 99 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 You were already talking to Colton and you're like, yeah, Sven, get in here. 100 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 I'm like, oh, I'm going to lose my job. 101 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Then what happened? You're just like, yeah, just don't do that again. 102 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Oh, okay. 103 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 The panic in his eyes because he's like, what did I do? 104 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,000 You're just being a good boss. Okay, you don't have to be that much of a brown nose. 105 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Whoa. I love your new case. 106 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 This is, you missed the whole conversation. 107 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,000 He stole the RAM, which was better in his girlfriend's PC. 108 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 He's giving his girlfriend his old crappy RAM. What a dick. 109 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 No, no, no. Hear me out. Hear me out. 110 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Okay, this was my PC, which has the exact same processor that this one did. 111 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,000 What I'm hearing is misogyny. Probably. 112 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Everything that's hers is mine. My man's playing a lot. 113 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,000 The modern man. Disgusting. I got two of them right next to me. 114 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 All right, we deserve that. Okay, but hear me out. 115 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,000 So the question I asked while you were gone is I know AMD CPUs don't play well with four sticks of dual channel memory. 116 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 They don't love it necessarily. It's not a problem. 117 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Yeah. It's not that they don't play well. It's that they don't play fast. 118 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Yeah. If you want the best performance, then yes, running the memory with just two sticks at a faster speed is better. 119 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 However, if you watched Linus Tech Tips. 120 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Who? Good YouTube channel. Check it out. 121 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Never heard of them. You would know we did a video recently showing that X3D processors. 122 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Yeah. Doesn't really matter too much. Actually don't care nearly as much as people thought. 123 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Yeah. So you just stole someone's RAM for nothing. 124 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,000 It's okay. Not just someone. Not just anyone. 125 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 My girlfriend. It wasn't for nothing because the RAM we stole was faster. 126 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 52 versus 5600 back transfers. 127 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 All right. Well, anyway. 128 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 I'm not the morality police. You built in a similar one. 129 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:02,000 I think the 207 or 216. It has that neat thing where the power supply cables all face the back. 130 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Yeah. Ooh. 131 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,000 The one weird thing is it has 180 millimeter fans. 132 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:14,000 That's a thing. Yeah. They're a little unusual, but that is a thing. 133 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Oh. I'm going to put this here. Okay. 134 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 No, no. That can go. That's the old one. 135 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Yeah. Oh man. I can't believe we actually broke something. 136 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 At least it wasn't his bed. 137 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Then his wood might not go right back up. 138 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I thought you did that with his mom. Sorry. 139 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 What? What the heck, Elijah? Okay. 140 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,500 That's the line. That's the line, Elijah. 141 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:45,000 You've crossed it. That's the line. Yeah. 142 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Not the Epstein jokes, not the Trump Biden. 143 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,000 I feel like incest is way worse than every single one of them. 144 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,000 You made me. I wasn't going in. Really? 145 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Yeah. I went over the line too. 146 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Elijah, I thought you were going to build the chair. 147 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 He just kind of grabbed it and started doing it. Yeah. 148 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 It's kind of bored. Okay. 149 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 So what are you doing? I'm the writer. I'm supervising the shoot. 150 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 That's my job. 151 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 I'll just go home. Is that an option? 152 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Wow. Hey, maybe you could do your call from there. 153 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 I hate working here. That's good. 154 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,000 We can tell because you're not working. 155 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 No, I'm not going to crash out on camera. 156 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 What working? 157 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,000 I'll have you know while you run vacation. I filmed 27 spots or spots. 158 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Six. And Sven is very happy with this. 159 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,000 I'm very appreciative. Six short circuits. Four LTTs. 160 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,000 And I'm hosting four this week myself while still writing more. 161 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 What do you do here? 162 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Well, you get to do the scrub, you know, not tool this one now. 163 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Yeah, I know. I think which one I want to put in. Got him. 164 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Okay. You're going to be lazy and do the one that already has the standoff in it. 165 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Sure. Oh, wait. I came with you. 166 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 You unscrewed the lock tight. What do you mean? 167 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 I mean, that lock tight. 168 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 What is this lock tight you speak of? 169 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Never heard of such a thing. Man, that's on there. 170 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Do you have a pliers? Yeah, we have those channel locks. 171 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Oh, those are maybe not going to work for this. What? 172 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Do you have some needle noses? I have needle noses. 173 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Here, catch. 174 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 The magnetism is too strong. 175 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 lttstore.com 176 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 It's kind of a fire bar. They almost wreck rhymed there. 177 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 The magnetism is too strong? Yeah. 178 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,000 lttstore.com That's pretty good. That doesn't rhyme. 179 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 It's a like rhyme. Like rhyme. 180 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Ew. Oh, no. That's literally modern rap. 181 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 What are you talking about? Actually, modern rap is lame or they rhyme. 182 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 They don't rhyme anything. You can get me out of this. No, no, no. 183 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Oh, no, it's fine. No, it's not. It's not going in the video. 184 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 It's not even going in the video. It'll go in the video. Nope. 185 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 No, rhymes that don't actually rhyme are lame. 186 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Have you ever written a rap? Yes. 187 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,000 You have the storms? Not the Star Wars one. You fucking asked me a question. 188 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 I fucking answered it. Have I ever? 189 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Yes. I can't argue with it. 190 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Did I say it was good? No. That's right. 191 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,000 But did it rhyme? Yes. 192 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Unfortunately. Yeah, you better believe it. 193 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 I do believe that's why I said it. 194 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Can you do a Floatplane blog? I don't know. 195 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,000 That seems a little outside of the kind of thing that we would make for LTD store. 196 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 What? Like a Floatplane branded. 197 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Oh my god. That's the next April Fool's I thought. 198 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 That one was a stretch, dude. I mean it will stretch. 199 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 It depends how big it is. Yeah, I was going to say, damn it. 200 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 That's not even on the thing. See you later, buddy. 201 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 You still didn't even do the plug. I'll do it later. 202 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,000 I'll never forget the April Fool's where you're like, or the writer's meeting, you're like, 203 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 hey, I want to make a water cool butt plug, but I need to actually use it. 204 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 It was like, the line is, nobody's forcing you to use it. 205 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,000 You're like, no, I want to. Well, no, that's not what I said. 206 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,000 What I said was that if we were to human water cool, 207 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 It has to be tested. Then we have to test it. 208 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 That's all I said. Man, this is going to be a good looking little machine. 209 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,000 I know. I'm excited. I've had before this all China PC, I was ITX for a few years because my PC used to sit 210 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,000 on top of my desk, but I kind of miss ATX just for air flow and noise. 211 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:04,000 ITX is one of those things where it's great in theory and then you live with it for a 212 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:12,000 while and you either still have the passion for it or you lose the passion for it. 213 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,000 I think it is really cool how far it's come though and how much stuff you can cram into 214 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 like a 10 or 11 liter case. 215 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Especially with how much flipping power modern GPUs consume. 216 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Even just when you think about how small like 1000 watt power supplies have gotten as well. 217 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Crazy. What don't you know about? 218 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Well, astrophysics, gardening. 219 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,000 About this specific situation. The history of dance. 220 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,000 You know the history of dance? You know my dad used to be a wonderful dancer. 221 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 He did like ballroom championship dancing. Really? 222 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Yeah. I do not have like any of those jeans in my blood whatsoever. 223 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,000 I'm a terrible dancer. Well, you know why you don't have those jeans in your blood? 224 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,000 It's because he took his pants off when you were conceived. This is true. 225 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 You don't know that. So there's no jeans in your blood at all? 226 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Yeah, he could have been wearing jeans. I've never asked my mom. 227 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Because she'd yell at us. 228 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I told you, Sven! Don't ask me that! 229 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Hear me out. Linus company town. Honestly? 230 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 I need a f**k up. I'm in. $200 a month rent? 231 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Yeah. Or no rent. Or no rent. 232 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 We can keep out no rent. Or this OLED. Yeah, or that OLED. 233 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Or the small OLED. Or the small OLED. Which is also bigger than the CRT. 234 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:43,000 The CRT. Yeah. And so I had a 2X Pro from RetroTink that I used for the longest time. 235 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,000 I used to speed around Mario 64 and Super Mario World. 236 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 And then I was learning Super Metroid last year. I kind of fell out of it, hobby thing again. 237 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,000 So this will just kind of be used for obviously gaming on there. 238 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And then I like to stream retro games to my friends on Discord. 239 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 So we still got to plug in HD15 and HDMI into this thing. 240 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Oh yeah. Well, don't let me get in the way. Okay. 241 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:10,000 You can just sit there and pretend to play like my little brother always would. 242 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Did you ever pull that trick? No, I was a little brother. 243 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Oh. Nice. Or it's a single player game and you tell them they're playing along and helping, but you're just playing?