all right guys welcome to the WAN Show
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you know what I had better just start
this in spite of the color being completely wonky ah there we go fixing
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pleasure that is to say your pleasure that gets better as the viewing
experience goes on because it started out uh completely in complete can
something be completely incomplete or if
it was completely incomplete would it just
be nothing it was completely incomp I'm
just stalling for time Brandon I'm clearly stalling for time don't question
it it's not helpful all right let me get the dock up
here we go oh that was awful I apologize
sincerely to our loyal twitch viewers out there who I'm sure uh we're not real
pleased with that noise you have Pella to thank he's a jerk so there's that
he's not actually a jerk he's very nice mild mannered even I would go that far
as to call him mild mannered uh we've got a lot of great topics for you guys
today PewDiePie vows to delete his Channel at 50 million subscribers JK
doesn't delete his channel um steam
users enraged over Intel exclusive
content in game wow it's like who thought that one
was going to end well nobody I hope uh Ubisoft Executives finded 1.2
million for Insider Trad trading during
Watchdogs and South Korea makes game
modding illegal that's right my friends
illegal game modding so let's go ahead and roll the intro which I am fairly
certain is not going to work properly but I'm over it look at that look at
that slow guy I I have no idea what's causing this
it's like a complete and utter mystery I tried a different video format and like
it was playing in real time but then it
would just jump around so that's not
actually that much better uh hey John we're
live I don't know where joh is but John's going to be joining me pretty
quick here I might even go get a chair
for him we'll
see pella's gonna get a chair for him mild mannered
Pella getting oh wow yeah not powered by Razer comms is a very old very old intro
um red and then what else who else is who
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Weldon is a sponsor
today okay well I will have to so this
is what see this is what happens when Colton's not here for one day we tease
Colton a lot but he's basically the glue
that holds this entire operation together and uh he's the kind of person
who's organized enough to go gee there's a ma Welden spot on the W show today
maybe we should ensure that there are ma Welden
for the
host uh uh um do you need to
like um John Will Survive he will survive that I will oh
as long as he knows how to love he'll always be alive um my car sucks the snow
and it's snowing here yeah well you drive a Mustang I'm not sure what you were expecting what does your car not
suck at it is after all americanmade
with a troll oh and the shots fired is coming early on the show today here you
gotta he's pulling me yeah you gotta yeah as I'm I'm being pulled okay hold
on okay all right so I think since we're
starting a little bit late we are going to jump right into our first topic
there's actually a lot of great topics this week thank you thank you Nicholas
light are just are we doing you are the light of my life I hate you I don't know
any other people with the last name light so you kind of won it by default
are we doing an on air shirt change I'm uh I'm going to change mine on air but
I'm going to carefully do it without showing my nips because that's not
allowed uh due to twitch's terms of service so I'm just gonna no shirtless
dudes on Twitch this no shirtless dudes on Twitch no shirtless anyone because
twitch is about equality so um if women
can't be shirtless then men can't be shirtless and that's just the way it's going to be to which I would say no I'm
not going to say anything so hold on let me just get my laptop in the way here
yeah sometimes it's better not to say anything am I allowed to show bare shoulders I know nips aren't allowed
this is where I know the line definitely ex yet we need censor censor things that
wasn't a nip that was just a weird mole I have on my chest it's
true okay there we
go so why is the show late
today just kidding nobody asked but uh
just in case you were thinking maybe you
would ask if you thought that you would get any kind of meaningful answer from
me it is because I was trying to make a
hard drive waterproof truly an important scientific
Endeavor for the betterment of all Humanity if there ever was one I don't
know how many times I've been you know
at SeaWorld or not at SeaWorld but like at a water park or something and like
you know what I wish I had right now a 10 tby hard drive but specifically a
waterproof specifically see one for one
that is 100% of our respondents to our
survey let's see let's check out the that have confirmed that they want a
waterproof hard drive can't find anything wrong with that logic so there
you go um that's what I was working on did I succeed or did I not succeed well
you're going to have to stay tuned for the video I don't think you're going to have to wait that long though because
we're a little bit behind on filming so there you go all right so the original
poster here was Ali Zi
2000 on the Forum and of course there's a gigantic
Forbes ad before I can look at the article the original article is from
forbes.com PewDiePie trolls everyone
doesn't actually delete his YouTube channel did anyone think he was going to
delete his YouTube channel Taran appar at least at least a
couple people here did I'm not going to name names but some folks did Taran you
are so freaking Gable
he does this kind of crap all the time I
did not know that he did not know that apparent know I I mean I don't even
watches content I knew that that's just
embarrassing ah okay maybe we can get centered at some point here I think you
keep drifting is it like my personal magnetism like like I'm a positive and
you're a positive so it's like a I'm not a positive aulive magnetism I've worked
here for a year and a half you know I'm not a positive you you have your positive
moments I appreciate that L um so basically he made a video called the
video deleting my Channel at 50 million said he would delete his channel once he
hit 50 million subscribers he actually offered some fairly plausible sounding
Logic for it um something along the lines of you know uh I started up
another Channel and was able to grow it very quickly because I'm that amazing um
and that was that was I think he called it yeah Jack Septic Eye 2 and the idea
behind creating that one was wanted another gold play button um meaning he
now has as many gold play buttons as we
do Shameless just because it's true what
you're saying is true just because we only have 15th as many subscribers on
our primary channel does not mean that we don't also have two golden play
buttons so there's that anyway he actually deleted the Jack septi 2
Channel as a way of fulfilling his bargain uh of the rationale that he was
offering up also seemed to have to do with some of the algorithmic changes
that YouTube has allegedly been making this has been kind of big news over the
last week or two plus depending on how
far back you go because we actually first started complaining about it
probably about um let me just see if I
can find if I can find that email chain
that I had going with our YouTube
rep no that's not it well whatever I can't find it but it was uh oh is it
this one I don't know I think it was I think
it was about a month ago something along those lines where basically it wasn't
that we were observing that the channel was getting um crushed out right but we
were observing that in particular our new videos were performing very poorly
and for those of you who were wondering if we were ever going to weigh in on this I guess I guess I wasn't going to
it wasn't on our topics for today but I will um so pretty much what happen
happen was our newer videos were not performing very well and uh YouTube
basically told us well then uh get good Noob and we kind of went uh okay I guess
that's pretty much we're trying yeah that's all you can do we really do get
up every day and try and get good it's
it's it's absolutely true my car was even doing this on the roads and I still
got here just so I could uh get good I guess yeah thank you for
that um all right let's move on to our
next topic then steam users enraged over
do you have the dock up um are you shared on it well I was but not on this
laptop because it's not my laptop I did look at it before we started so I have
I'm familiar with most of these stories at least a little bit oh so you're one step ahead of me then well what Google
account are you logged into here uh let's see I am logged into oh luk so
there you go so that's probably shared on it just um I do not condone the
hijacking of other employees I'm using
this with permission are you I am oh good okay I share an office with Luke of
course I talked to him about it well I um
okay as long as you guys have a safe word for your sharing so
steam man this was just like complete
disaster start to finish uh posted originally on the Forum by Z mule and
the original article here is from polygon.com
who who thought this was a good idea
steam users enraged over Intel exclusive
content in game inspiring quick
reversal and it's more than just there was some content in the game that was
exclusive to Intel users it was actually
exclusive to Intel Core i7 users so uh
here we go the developers of Arizona sunshine for the HTC VI and the
controversy began over two pieces of content in game
um okay so the controversy over the two pieces of content began with a post on
the game team page asking why one machine the player owned could play The
Horde mode in single player and the other could not so the developer
explained that The Horde setting and apocalyptic mode were locked to machines
running core i7s until March of next
year we're talking a thre Monon
exclusivity period for buying a core i7
thoughts so so I can see that this was
not mentioned at all to anybody before the release of the game so which like
which direction was the deception in did they advertise all the content but then
everyone found out oh you have to have an i7 or was it the other way around
where they didn't advertise whatever the extra content was but then if you have
an i7 you found out after the fact hey there's all this extra stuff all of a
sudden um I I don't know if that matters a
whole lot either way but I could see people being extremely extremely upset
if they were promised something that they just weren't given so I from from
my mind I see your point but I actually don't really think that it matters yeah
it's deception like either way so not even if it's deception it's just a
really bad precedent I mean you look at
how upset The Gaming Community gets over
stuff like NVIDIA Gameworks where NVIDIA is legitimately going out and building
tools that game developers can use like
kind of copy paste I'm simplifying it obviously but can copy paste into their
game for some fire effect or some hair
effect or whatever the case may be look at how upset people are about the very
idea of a piece of gaming content not
being platform agnos tic at all especially the fact they
weren't open about it and here yeah I mean here the message is even worse so
vertigo games responded working with
Intel allowed us to create even more content than we originally planned
including these modes and the physics systems in the game making Arizona
Sunshine one of the richest VR experiences possible which is just
another way of saying Intel handed us
three big bags of money and we invested
those into our game and we agreed to lock down the game well at least parts
of the game for core i7 users only entirely artificially in exchange for
aforementioned money now if we're talking about a feature that they
implemented that straight up wouldn't work on other Hardware so something like
uh physx yeah where it's just like mind you okay physx is another
like or like H like hdr10 like there's some
things that just don't like there's some Hardware that just does not support it
sure okay okay outputting hdr10 to an
HDR display sorry that's only going to work on the latest Polaris gpus and
NVIDIA 10 Series yeah but this is more like it's an HDMI output limitation
right this is more like just an artificial limitation on purpose and
it's it's one of those things where like I've had
conversations with people at Intel uh
where and actually I you know what I'm probably at Liberty to talk about it
because the person in question uh is no longer working there you're going to go
with probably I'm going to go with probably yeah I'm going to go with probably I mean you're not you're not uh
legally allowed to counsil me up here anyway so I'm not that's that that
that's absolutely true yeah you're going to have to pass a whole different bar for that um so I have had conversations
with Intel where this gu and I don't know where he got it from but was
insisting to me that a core i7 was the
best VR experience to which I
replied I mean maybe in a completely immeasurable
way because a core i5 like a latest
generation core i5 especially going back I mean they enabled it for fifth sixth
and seventh generation core i7 so you even have to go back a generation
um so especially the latest generation core i5 I guarantee you is going to run
a game any game on the market right now
just as well as the latest generation core i7 you don't need eight threads to
game you just don't you just don't not yet maybe in time but as it stands now a
core i5 6600k will perform just as well
as a 6950x in pretty much any game now I
believe they may be some exception City skylines scales a little better it
scales a little bit better but it's not
the difference is like a couple of frames it's not ridiculous it's not the
difference between unplayable and the
richest VR experiences possible that's
not what happens there so fans
revolted most asking why this hadn't been mentioned before launch vertigo
games then basically ran to Intel went
yo this is actually causing more problems than the money could possibly
compensate for we really need to undo this because it's bad PR for you too
then they went back to the gamers apologized and unlocked the locked modes
for all players this reminds me a little bit of something a little bit of
something that Intel did I believe it was I think it was about a decade ago
maybe a little bit longer when they had they actually wrote their own compiler
for programmers I don't think a ton of people were using it but they found out
later on it would only take advantage of certain um CPU instruction capab ities
if it was an Intel processor the system was running even if it was even if it
was AMD and even if the AMD chip supported these instruction sets it just
wouldn't run and there was a huge controversy over that I remember and
they they were legally required to put a disclaimer on so so yeah it was it just
reminded me that a little bit I guess so yeah I mean this
is like I don't think it's quite I mean
okay the fact that it's not disclaimed very well is really really crummy but at least
they aren't handicapping the performance of someone else's system like at least
they didn't have the game developer you like like your example use a compiler
that's going to make the game Run worse on other things they just soft lock
they're also just like completely like denying people content though so you
know I guess it just depends on your perspective but definitely not good I
mean one way or another neither of us thinks it's good neither of us is
pleased neither were the gamers and you have to give at least a little bit
of credit where credit is due at least they came out reverse the decision and
now everyone has access to the content I just figured out why not very many
people are watching wow today it seems to be related to the fact that I forgot
to record an intro for the show and upload it to YouTube so bear with me one
moment you doing it now go watch the wow
twitch.tv/ Linus I forgot to do this before the show so I'm actually
recording this during the show but it's 4x3 for some reason don't worry too much
about that just watch the show it'll be great twitch.tv/ linch John's helping
hi yes so if you want to lead our next topic I'm gonna go ahead and upload that
to YouTube okay because I derped do you
care what order I do these things in or not I do not care okay so next topic uh
so South Korea has effectively uh made
game modding illegal uh so they've passed an amendment into law with with
the intent of shutting down video game hacks and modifications and based on the
law manufacture or distribution of
programs that are not allowed by a game company or its terms of service or
actually against the law so this includes aim boders hacking programs
scriptors basically anything that's not allowed by the terms of service um the
punishment for this is actually is is theoretically pretty steep uh 5 years of
jail time or the equivalent of $43,000 in fines um part of this is in
response to um hacking communities for certain games particularly OverWatch um
hacking is run rampant with OverWatch in South Korea uh so blizzard has been
trying to take its own action against players that are doing the hacks but now
with this they're also going to have the full vacing of the South Korean
government so thoughts on
that so
okay
um on the one hand do I believe that
being a jackass online should have real
world consequences when you are and if you
really break it down when you are effectively wasting someone else's money
you are robbing them of enjoying something that they paid for no you're
not stealing it from them you're not like stealing their game but let's say
for example someone um bought a a TV and
they brought it home and they put it in their living room and they wanted to
please don't ride a bicycle in the warehouse for the love of everything
that is good why do I have to say these things
safety meeting safety meeting yeah safety safety meetings Okay first Monday
of every month um like I actually have to do that
by law speaking of laws safety meetings anyway um what am I even talking okay
okay so I I see it as a kin to someone your neighbor buying a brand new cool TV
and he goes to watch Breaking Bad or something on it and you go over you you
barge into his house and you stand in front of it and you
go and you get all like cross-eyed and obnoxious because you haven't taken his
TV but you're depriving him of enjoying it and something for so I think being an
ass hat should have real consequences
when it impacts the lives and the
quality of life of other people
on the flip side government backing of
ulas well this is even that this is much more than government backing of a Ula
because if you violate a Ula let's say you're playing OverWatch or Starcraft or
whatever you do something that violates the to if so at least in the US if if
and I'm sure South Korea there civil remedies of South Korea too but you go to court and you say oh well this person
violated the to that's why we kicked them off and now there's litigation
about it but that's your usual remedy it's a contract remedy you can kick
people off for violating the T to so in
that sense there already is government backing but we're not just now they're
taking it out of the realm of private law and civil courts and we're saying
we're going to come like like law enforcement will come after you and you could go to jail which is just on a
completely other completely different level so right and we're talking again
we're talking about you know going to you know
presumably this is this is another gamer maybe even a gamer you know so let's say
you're buddies and you're being a jerk and using an Aimbot or whatever else so
this is a k to you being at your budd's house going in front of the TV and him
calling the cops and them not just
saying yo leave but them arresting you
what was it a fiveyear sentence potentially up to five years putting you
in jail for up to 5 years and finding
you the equivalent of like
$5,000 yeah so so so if you take it to
the real world being a jerk example you
can see how this is the wrong way to behave and there should be consequences
but you can also see how given the you
would you say my my example is fairly parallel it's yeah it's good I mean it's
I was actually having a conversation about an unrelated issue um with someone
earlier today about this that there's plenty of things that are frankly just
dick moves in society but that that we don't criminalize you know we say we say
this is bad and there might be some consequence for this but we're not going
to NE necessarily Chuck you in the jail Cale for it that's right I mean there's
there's a lot of stuff that is you know
uh public urination okay well that
actually is against the law but it is against the law but they but they throw you in the drunk tank for overnight or
whatever and they let you out MH
but but it's not a fiveyear sentence well sometimes some places put you on
the sex offense registry for that so you're in there with like the child
molesters and stuff maybe publication bad I understand what you're trying to
say though okay let's talk about like graffiti then okay so graffiti is is a
similar you are not you are not making it so someone's building doesn't
function anymore yeah it's just not a nice thing to do you're wasting their
time and potentially wasting their money property values will go down too which
is exact actually exactly what we're talking about wasting someone's time and
money so is it criminal yes but does it
get a 5-year jail term potentially no
mhm with that said do you think a big part of the reason why they might have
such a high maximum is not because they necessarily intend to enforce that kind
of thing for someone who installs an Aimbot and pawn some noobs or whatever I
my guess but for someone who's creating an Enterprise out yeah yeah I mean my
guess is that some person who's just doing something they think it's a joke
they wouldn't get that they probably I also read that this was an amendment to
something so maybe there's some other stuff that's punishable by a Max five
years that would be more serious I mean I don't I know extremely little about
how law in South Korea works but um it
reminds me of um a case a couple years ago in Georgia where I think there it
was I think it was a comp siiz student at Georgia Tech and they had just beaten
the University of Georgia which is like one of their big rivals I think in the football game and he hacked into ug's
computer system and put and just change put something funny on like one of their
like University web pages it wasn't anything super malicious but he got
charged criminally for that and taken in front of a judge and it kind of blew up
because I think he was facing five or 10 years in prison like at Max for that but
of course he didn't get that the judge was just like that wasn't good don't do
that again they put him in like some sort of diversion program and it was okay but um as far as so this is
probably something kind of similar but I guess if it is bad enough if you're winning some sort of huge Enterprise
then maybe they could come down on you so very interesting very very
interesting and there's also the uh the small matter of their president being
mired in like impeachment proceedings now too so I don't know how that's if
that would affect anything but there you
are all right our next topic Ubisoft
Executives find 1.2 million her for
insider trading during um watch Watch
Dogs it's funny isn't it funny that it's called Watch
Dogs does anyone else get a kick out of this um they should they should have
called the sequel whistleblowers speaking of oh you know
what no never mind I was about to say something political and now I'm not
going to but I don't know it was it was I was going to poke fun at Hillary for a
change so do you think do you think I'm I'm evening out my karma well one no but
I think the more obvious Target is Martha Stewart even though she's not a politician oh no I was I was going to
poke fun at Hillary's whole um we should we need to come down on fake news fake
news reporting thing I'm not even going to touch that because if you offer an
opinion on fake news one one way or another it immediately becomes political
so I'm not going to touch it but I this does remind me of the joke they made on
South Park Martha Stewart Living with an electronic ankle bracelet oh yes yes yes
but anyway yeah all right so basically
getting back to our getting back to our Watchdog story here in mid November a
French Finance regulator has accused had accused five Ubisoft Executives of
insider trading back in 2014 including the head of Ubisoft Montreal so
theor de fin handed down the fine ear
today Ubisoft has told Kotaku that the publisher will be appealing the judgment
they believe those involved didn't intentionally commit any crime so the
AMF is specifically accusing those execs of having prior knowledge of the
watchdog's delay and then taking advantage of that privileged information
to sell their shares before the value dropped I sure as hell would have sold
my shares before Watch Dogs came out oh
good lord I'm glad I don't didn't own any Ubisoft shares and I didn't know it
was going to be delayed and it was going to be a terrible Port because uh yeah
then I could be in trouble right now so the delay announcement caused Ubisoft
shares to dropped 25% in value back in
2014 Ubisoft is arguing that due to the processes and timetables involved in
game development those involved couldn't have known about the delay at the time
that they sold shares which to which I would say okay
maybe I don't run a major game developer
but to say that at any stage in a
project an executive wouldn't have any
ability to find find out if you know
we're somewhat on track or if we're going to be I how late was watch dogs
again I don't remember how late it was it was like really late it was really
late and really unfinished in a lot of ways which is another indicator that
they were more late than even they ended up being so to say that you know I would
have no way of knowing at an early stage in the pipeline of production of a video
project of our s whether it's going to be delayed is just kind of asinine um
this just seems like some butt covering because insider trading is sort of a big
deal um and based on the 1.2 million euro
fine apparently others agree so there's that MH that's not a small amount of
Euros that's many euros that's many euros that's over one million euros
yeah okay so here is some bad news for
Pebble owners specifically and Smartwatch enthusiasts in general if
there was any doubt left in your mind that the Smartwatch Market hasn't taken
off the way that uh Smartwatch makers
would have liked to believe that it was going to then this pretty much seals it
Fitbit formally announces that it is buying Smartwatch maker Pebble rumored
to be something to the tune of a $40
million acquisition making it about 15
million more than Casey neistat's
beam and Casey neistat so there you go
in the few years that you existed Pebble you at least managed to achieve a higher
valuation than Casey neistat one
person I'm I'm disappointed I'm actually disappointed in a lot of things I'm
disappointed in the way that um SmartWatches haven't taken off the way
that I'd like um a more vibrant Marketplace means more Choice more
options more development um and right now like there are certain like my my
wife wants a new smartwatch she's actually running a uh Pebble time no
Pebble time original Pebble Pebble time I think don't look at me yeah sorry
she's running a pebble time I'm pretty sure uh the one with the color e in
display the first the plastic one though not the steel um and she really likes it
but it's not not particularly feminine and so she's been asking me to find her
like a really functional like a women's smart wom's Smartwatch and the Apple
watch is great if you like the iPhone
but um my wife doesn't like the iPhone
and right now there are not a ton of great options out there and um one of
the things that Pebble was doing differently is they weren't building on
Android Weare um so it was actually legitimately different and it was a
pretty good experience on both Android and iOS at least the last time that I
tried it um the other thing I'm disappointed
in is how this whole thing is is going
down with respect to supporting pebble's
existing customers so let me just see
here we go so Fitbit acquired the
technology but they are not acquiring
the hardware products so what that that effectively
means is Pebble is right now effective
like immediately when they announced this uh December 7th 2016 they are no
longer promoting manufacturing or selling any devices they'll continue to
work as normal no immediate changes to the pebble user experience will happen
but and this is the next bullet point Pebble functionality or service quality
may be reduced in the future so basically what that means is there will
be absolutely zero ongoing developments so Android you know uh what's Oreo or
you know whatever what what else is o oh
o desserts oregano oregano oregano oh I
wasn't listening to most of what you guys just said I was going to say creme
brulee but that doesn't start with an o you guys are both awful I that's not the
point I contribute Oreo he comes up with oregano which is the right letter but a
spice and you come up with Creme Brulee which I don't think has a single o in it
no it doesn't an O dessert huh that's a
really good question orange something you could go orange cream orange
creamsicle orange orange creamsicle is orange by
definition there are cream soda and lime
flavored ones that are pink and green but do you have to append that and if
you just say cream sickle by itself isn't understood to be the orange
variety that is a wonderful question one
that I'm sure no one in our audience cares to know the answer of and if they
did they would Google it and post it inat which someone probably will no no I
I was discussing it too I'm just orange sorbet there we go orange
sorbet that's just I mean just putting orange in it is kind of cheating though
um all right so anyway Kickstarter backers who haven't received their rewards will get a full refund it may
take up to 10 business days blah blah blah orders including Pebble to order
pre-orders which have not been charged for are no longer being accepted
warranty support gone warranty support
no longer available for Pebble watches this is a crap move and Fitbit you guys
are not very nice people for doing this um because what nice companies do when
they acquire a business is they provide
warranty support and honestly it's something that wouldn't have been that
hard to do Pebble has existing inventory presumably that they are not selling
anymore all you have to do is allocate a
little bit of your customer care like a little hidden part of the website
somewhere and a little corner of your Warehouse to
Pebble stuff and kind of go okay we'll provide warranty support for x amount of
time or until all the pebble products are gone we'll do our best we'll provide
90 days or whatever the case may be um to Sheba when they acquired ocz they
continue to offer warranty support for the uh EOL ocz products it's in my
opinion the right thing to do but because at that point it's your product
that's right so I mean except that they didn't acquire the hardware products
so I think that's just pretty crappy um
and if you want any third party accessories then you can buy them on
like Amazon or Gadget wraps or whatever the case may be
so really don't like the way they handled this and um I I don't I'm not
really not sure what else to uh to say about it apparently jobs were offered
mostly to software engineers at Pebble
uh Pebble founder and CEO um will not be
staying on with Fitbit after the acquisition basically it's largely a grab for Pebble
software assets and
platform bommer hope your Pebble doesn't
break it will at least maintain services so that existing Pebble devices continue
to work as normal but continue to work as normal is sort of a meaningless thing
to say because what's as normal the normal will change as you know Oreos and
you know parfet and whatever the case may be come out on the inside yeah think
of Q dessert do they do they make do they make dessert kiche is that a thing
or they all just Savory like with the cheese and stuff I don't know if anyone
makes dessert kiche well think of another q dessert then because I got
nothing can you mix Keen wall with sugar
that sounds disgusting but sounds awful it does um speaking of things that sound
not awful Squarespace that's right Squarespace
doesn't sound like much of anything really what does Squarespace
sound like to you it sounds like like it
reminds me of like a cubicle that you work in because it's square and it's a
space that you work in I was going to say it sounds like where the cool kids hang out which is kind of the same thing
I guess oh yeah let's like over to the
the square space and get totally lit and YOLO stuff I don't know so what
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whether it's for you personally you want to put up like a portfolio or a blog or
whether it's for like your sports team that you coach on weekends and you got
saddled with like what I have to create the website for the team I don't know a
bloody thing about website creation Squarespace makes it easy because their
templates all I can't remember how many they have think it's like a couple dozen
all of their templates are easy to use and look great not just on a square
shaped screen but also on a rectangular screen Square rectangle they should call
it like they should call it Flex quadrilateral space yes quadrilateral
space I've never actually tried to run a Squarespace site on a circular display
but now I'm tempted yeah yeah hey you have your uh some of the Smartwatch
faces are circular not that one yeah not this one but well okay so we're going to
put a pin in that one for now but basically every website comes with a
free online store they've got their cover pages feature that allows you to
build a one pager in like minutes and
everyone can now publish content in Apple news format directly from their
Squarespace blog module making it available to millions of potential
readers that's not to say that anyone will actually necessarily care about
what you're posting in your blog but if they did they would have a super
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20% do I have to say something this time
about oh no no it's fine I gave up on you your lost cause MH oh so oh so
you're giving me a preview of my employee review next week okay awesome
at least I know at least you do MH um I
hate to surprise you all right so Toms has been hard at
work benchmarking the snot out of the upcoming kbl lake
i77700k so we've got some excerpts here but obviously if you want to see the
full numbers then you should definitely go and check out their review over at
tomshardware.com um but there you go
it's a little bit faster in terms of
Maximum overclocking speed than um the
67 K on the same board so they don't have z270 boards yet so we don't know if
that'll make much of a difference but traditionally it hasn't really done a
whole heck of a lot moving on power consumption
is really is it that much higher wow than a okay I haven't
actually read the review so that's um that is not a small Delta there
interestingly overclocking it from 4.2 to 4.8 GHz doesn't make much of a
difference difference a little bit 15 15 watts but
like here they're pretty close at stock speed it's a pretty big difference and
then finally here's all the rumored I guess sort of rumored I mean Intel's
road maps are not exactly rocket science to figure out um once again we're going
to get two k skes once again they're going to be like a little bit better
than or worse than the other and they will be
overclockable once again we are maxing out at four cores you're going to get
you know hyperthreading for eight threads on the i7s and uh you know
what's really great about all of this for me what's really great about all of this for you lonus what is great about
this for me is that this
video from Techquickie the most viewed video
ever on Techquickie coming up close to the most viewed video I have ever been
involved in I think this is my second most viewed video of all time the fire
truck uh fire Tru I believe is still ahead of it yes thank you for bringing
that up is still
valid one two and a half year wait one
and a half hold on yes that's two and a
half years later where I explain that
cor i3s have two threads with hyperthreading and core i5s have four
cores with no hyperthreading and core i7s have four cores with hyperthreading
or they have more cores up to I think the one thing that's now wrong is the up
to how many cores in i7 can have CU I believe it was either six or eight at
the time and now 10 but but I mean hey
consistency in branding is very important so there there you go so thank
you Intel for maintaining the status quo
for the last two and a half years so my video can continue to be a rock star um
even though the comments under it are astonishingly cancerous it's funny
anytime a video of our goes outside of our core viewer base um
it is amazing how quickly the uh the the the the like hate
comes back it's not really that surprising though honestly not a good
classif classification there are several I5 processors out there that out preform
preform the i7 boring dumb video from a guy who looks like he have he have fake
teeth Yep this vid looks like deeply gin
Pleasant Jan Pleasant like I'm not even trying lonus Tech tips ripoff oh it's
lonus oh oh Steph okay very cool info we got that by
the way lonus it's j it's not gigahertz it's gigahertz also I can't believe that
after the two-minute Mark you really start explaining the actual topic this could have been done a lot
better um apparently I'm looking Dandy
as F this guy kind of talks like popey
you talk absolutely nothing like Popeye no I talk absolutely nothing like
Popeye um yeah so there's that pause this video
anywhere and it looks like he's taking it up the bum well let's see let's try
there's only one way to know for sure if that random person on the internet is
right I mean it's probably possible I
believe everything I read on the internet
okay well he said at any point you just have to no no that one's not very good
so there oh okay yeah there I'd
say you look very normal in like the the
full two seconds before that and that's the one so far we're at about
75% yeah still
okay
okay yeah all right well I got to I got to give it to random internet comment or
number number seven there
um okay oh oh so I have as long as okay
if we're if we're done making like jokes about butt stuff I have heard a rumor of
an unclocked K skew of a core I 3 I'm
not sure if that's been confirmed but just keep a lookout for that for an
unlocked core I3 like an i3 whatever
they did the Pentium anniversary edition before so there is a precedent for this
yeah yeah so it that would be that would be pretty cool so all right I am about
to win another bet so I won my trump
will win the election bet and I am about to win who you bet oh it was that other
guy so yeah it was you looked at me so no no and I'm about to win my bet about
the iar that I made probably about eight or n years ago
mhm cuz I was like How can Apple
continue to increase asps their laptops
already cost as much as a decent car maybe they'll just sell cars I was
at Tim Horton's with my camera guy back at NCI and I was like they're going to
do a car and he was like No And then my prediction Beyond car was house they're
going to do like templatized houses that
are all basically the same and if this house is good enough for Tim Cook it's
good enough for you they might have like like an i house and an i house plus so
two different sizes and I think that they are going to fully integrate their
basically controllers that they've managed to hypnotize half the freaking
population into carrying around so they're going to take these and they're
going to integrate them with your self-driving car and with your auto
autonomous house and the whole thing is going to work together like billio and
damn well you're going to like it so uh
yes can I help you taking this for the laptop just sign it out loan
out we have a system for these things the I house plus would have a basement
but the mortgage would be twice as much Lenovo
phone Lenovo phone the Fab yeah um I think so I'm not
sure someone handed it to me Dennis was asking if I had it because it signed out
to me or something oh that makes sense
cuz origin in my office yeah sorry I didn't know it
was signed out to you the system sort of works anyway so
Apple has acknowledged for the first time that they are investing in self-driving cartech in a letter to us
transport Regulators Apple said it was excited about the potential of automated
systems in many areas including Transportation adding there are significant societal benefits of
automated vehicles to be realized Apple has registered several car-related internet domains including apple.car and
apple. auto we have an Apple Auto Glass
here I wonder if they're going to have to change their name company spokesperson for Apple said
the letter to the national highway traffic safety administration was prompted by its heavy investment into
machine learning and autonomous systems that it wanted to help to find the best practices in the industry the five-page
letter including written by blah blah blah etc etc etc whatever I was right
we're all going to find out I was right and it's going to be great I'm going to be happy you sound like a um a radio
disclaimer yeah sorry about that okay nostr Linus you have any other
predictions about Apple for us Alex Goes High posted on the Forum oh I guess not
Windows is coming back to ARM
yeah these are my arms let's see your
arms no no all right well Windows is
coming back this time with 32bit x86
compatibility which is like not good enough but is a lot
closer to where it needs to be so this is not the first time that Microsoft has
been capable of running Windows was on an ARM-based machine in fact um those of
you who were around when it happened the
Surface RT was an ARM powerered Windows
Microsoft Surface tablet it was or two
in one technically I guess but it it was not a great experience it was a it
wasn't it was just called Windows RT like it wasn't Surface RT well yeah but
it was it wasn't a direct oh the OS was Windows RT yeah that's what I said so so
yeah yeah yeah no no I was sorry I was talking about Surface RT running Windows
RT Windows RT which I they but they had to change I think the code base because
it was ARM is that right or uh so yeah so basically it was based on Windows 8
but it could run on ARM and they ported Microsoft Office and in fact they
couldn't even sell surface RTS with an included copy of Microsoft Office like
not a trial like they actually included the full office suite that you could use
on it and it still wasn't enough to make people
get into it because it couldn't run
regular x86 applications meaning why am
I running Windows at all you're just limited to like maybe some things you
could find in the Windows store and a few other things so this is new
Microsoft demo Photoshop running on a
Snapdragon 820 very freaking cool so this was at
the win HC Hardware conference in shenzen and they announced a range of
hardwar driven initiatives to modernize the PC and address two big goals
expanded support for mixed reality and to produce a range of ever more
efficient mobile always connected PCS powered by ARM processors so qualcom
powered Windows 10 um PCS will hit the market in 2017
with a full Desktop Windows 10 variant coming to ARM there will be a 64-bit
version running on qualcomm's latest and greatest processors so presumably the
Snapdragon 835 and the way that Microsoft describes it it will offer a
full Windows Experience with the ability to run not only universal Windows
platform apps from the store but regular win32 desktop applications it'll include
built-in emulation for 32-bit x86
applications and the emulation will be used only for application code the OS
itself itself and all system libraries will be native 64-bit ARM binaries
pretty freaking cool so actually no I had misunderstood an earlier part of the
notes so no this is the bomb so wow how
far along like do you think the Snapdragon 820 is
because the reason I'm asking you is you talk about the Photoshop demo which sounds extremely impressive and it might
be but I do know that there are um there
are versions of I think Photoshop I think they had it for like Chromebooks
or something where it part of it was Cloud processing so it I wonder if it's
maybe partially the same thing here it might not be I don't know I doubt it I
suspect you could and I I think we're going to see more of a move towards
offloading processing to the cloud at some some point um but right now it
sounds like it's just running natively on the device I mean if you're Intel
right now what are you
thinking well um let's see it what so
it's um let's see it's you're saying a full desktop
variant coming to ARM so I mean how many think how many you know sff PCS are we
or tablets are we going to see necessarily running this you know it
could be a lot but is there anything to indicate everyone's just going to pick
this up pretty quickly or here's my indication that people are going to pick
this up really quickly the iPhone
7 already in some benchmarks performs
similarly to the Apple MacBook
2015 does anyone need to use the squeegee to scrape off I have a scraper
thank you I've got a scraper too yeah thank you edel it's snowing outside so
already in some benchmarks Apple has caught up up to the throttled down
performance that you can get out of a very low power Intel processor and
already customers buying running out and
buying the Apple MacBook 2015 have
validated that this performance is acceptable for their use so with
Hardware offloading of let's say hvc
video decode like some some key video decode
and you know what what else would make it an optimal media consumption device
let's say the storage controller is still sophisticated enough that you have
fast storage performance so web page loading is really Snappy all that kind
of stuff that wouldn't be that hard to do yeah is there any reason for a basic
let's say a Chromebook like experience but on Windows or a Macbook like
experience that you wouldn't say okay yeah no I know a lot of people who would
be totally down for that in a Sleek device that lasts for like freaking 18
to 30 hours on battery or whatever the case may be the only thing that I would
think of is if you need to run something a little bit more specialized because
although like you know this ARM processor might be awesome but it's
still reduced instruction set so there are still going to be things that you
can't do it's not it's might not even be a question of performance it might even
it might be a question of is there there is thing I need to run can I even run it
at all but other than that yeah which means it could be dog slow yeah but it
should should TM should run I feel like
for mainstream you'll paron the expression but mainstream usage it would
it might be as good as you're saying so yeah
sheesh that is
uh that is that is pretty exciting speaking of pretty exciting I like
flipped out when I saw this SG posted on the Forum thank you for that the
original article here is from polygon
wow Nintendo debuted the switch with
Jimmy Fallon and it's actually a great
video um it's NBC so I suspect oh wow
it's playing I'm surprised um
normally normally NBC stuff um I've had
I've had trouble with it ends up region locked so here I'm just going to I'm
going to go ahead and pause it we're not going to play the whole thing but
basically oh this isn't even the same clip I watch on YouTube where is it hold
on where is it where does he feel it here we go here we go here we go so it's
under it's under thing Jimmy Fallon freaks out I mean half of it
seems to be playing it up for the camera but that's his job so I'm not going to criticize him too hard but there it is
actual switch Hardware holy freaking crap uh you fast forward a little bit
there it is actually the Next Generation Zelda game um I'll give Fon this he either is
legitimately a Nintendo Zelda fan or he
really did his research he did a great job of the spot uh talking about like he
he pulled out of his hat um you know quotes from interviews with shagaru
mamoto like how he had talked about why it was open world and this and that um
so he was either very well prepared or uh or he's legit like a Zelda geek um
they showed it running in switch mode which is really really impressive to
anyone who hasn't already seen an NVIDIA Shield portable or
tablet um and yeah it looks pretty bananas uh
there's still a few things I need to know about it I got to know how much it weighs before I'm willing to accept this
as a mobile gaming system I want to know what those uh thumb sticks feel like but
Nintendo has traditionally been pretty good about this yeah have you seen this
video um I haven't seen it yet okay I will say just about your comment about
the gam pad um the Wii U which which um
my wife well my wife and I have a Wii U and wow uh it's it's uh the game pad is
much much lighter than it looks so okay
yeah it's worth it just for Mario Kart 8 but um actually that brings me to
another question do you know if the uh switch is going to have any launch
exclusives or is it just going to run Wii U games at first I actually don't
know what I heard was that um yeah what
I heard was that uh Zelda breath of the
wild was going to launch for Wii U
first and then you were going to be a able to play it on switch as well once
that launches but I could be I could be wrong about that um I haven't been
following that closely the last Zelda game I played was Twilight Princess so
I'm sorry I've let down I've let down everybody I have let an entire console
generation Pass Me By since I have played through an entire Zelda game can
you believe Twilight Princess was 10 years ago time flies like I was playing uh Wii
sports with my son the other day the original Wii Sports yeah oh wow yeah
well I uh my Drive died so I actually replaced it it was like 30 bucks or 40
bucks or something like that so I replaced it cuz I was like I mean I
actually invested pretty heavily in the Wii like I have four nunchucks I have
four wiimotes I have two classic controllers like I've got a couple of
like steering wheel add-ons like I've actually got a bunch of crap for it I have do you have the we fit Fitness pad
I used to my wife got it and she didn't
use it I have a friend that also got one and it just sat in the corner collecting
dust so amazing how that happens actually did manage to sell it so not
for what we paid for it but you know anyway the point is that um I I've
invested kind of heavily in the Wii and I was kind of thinking you know it's not
like it's not like it's not a novel gaming experience if you've never seen
it before it's the definition of Novel my son loves it it's like can we play
Wii tennis like yeah sure why not um what else we got here
today blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ah Samsung May permanently disable Galaxy
Note 7 phones in the us as soon as next week original article from The Verge
apparently they've gotten back about 90% of the devices but that means there are
literally tens of thousands of people out there who still have not returned
their note 7s the time to do it is now
because they are actually going to Brick your device um you've already had like
almost but October November almost 3 months to deal with it deal with it
they're going to modify the software to prevent it from charging the phone will
no longer work so stop stop fooling
around there's another rumor here this one was posted by good to good to Fu
fried fried something I don't know whatever it's supposed to buy a guy on the Forum uh rumor has it the Galaxy S8
is not going to feature a 3 and 12 mm
headphone jack it looks like The Dominoes have already begun to
fall I will talk about this a little bit
so I've actually been using um I've been
using the iPhone 7 as a daily driver for almost a month now for the last little
bit here uh reason being that I've been working on my MacBook Pro review which I
was supposed to shoot today but didn't but is fully written so we'll deal with that next week um and I wanted to
immerse myself in the Apple ecosystem and uh so that combined with my time
spent actually reviewing the device I have a more firm impression of what I
think of the whole dongle dongle culture
Apple being a dongle company that happens to make other stuff now that we're that we're heading towards because
it's not just Apple yeah so Motorola
already has their zforce um no headphone jack um I forget
who it is it's one of the uh xiaomi or one of the one of the Chinese companies
has had a phone without a headphone jack for quite some time
and uh I'll say this other than one
specific use case which I have found
very frustrating so I actually uh sleep
with my headphones in and play at the same time yeah with my phone playing in
my ears it helps me stay sleeping when
the baby cries at night because I have to work in the morning my wife deals
with her at night um other than that
which has been very frustrating which is about a $10 solution if you just by a
dongle it hasn't really bothered me and
this is as someone who doesn't use Bluetooth headphones I just with that
said I only recently started carrying my
earphones around in a carrying case so now that I have a carrying case it's not
a lot of extra effort to have a dongle in there for when I'm using the iPhone
but if I wasn't still using a carrying case and I was just throwing my
headphones in my pocket still it would bother me but as it is honestly it
really just hasn't been that big of a you're so organized lus well you have to
be when companies don't put ports on their products I mean it's the same
reason that I carry a dongle for my razor blade um the second it didn't have
Ethernet I was like well I'm carrying a dongle forever
now and maybe I've just gotten used to it maybe we're all just going to get
used to spending another hundred bucks on the adapters that we need in order to
get the functionality that our products really could have had in the first place
if we were willing to compromise a little bit on their thinness and lightness but I'm not bitter if I sound
bitter it's because I'm not doing a good job of Faking that I'm not a little bit
bitter thinner and lighter oh it's a good thing Luke isn't
on the show because it means we can cover this really quickly originally
posted by GA ran on the Forum wow after
the blizzard shutdown Legacy World of Warcraft server returns this month the
nostalrius team no longer waiting for blizzard helps to launch the spiritual
successor and we've talked plenty about nostalrius on this show so we're going
to call that pretty much good for today AT&T to cough up $88
million for cramming Mobile customer
bills original article here is from networkworld domcom oh you
AT&T um some 2.7 million AT&T customers
will share $88 million in compensation
for having had unauthorized thirdparty changes added to their mobile bills the
FTC announced December 8th these refunds will represent the most money ever
recouped by victims of what is known as mobile cramming according to the FTC so
everyone gets like 35 bucks or something awesome I think it's a little more than
that I'm going to pull out the calculator 88 divided by
2.7 32 so you were right good work $32
you're welcome I guess you can go to like a
Prime Time movie and get like one of the big drinks or something I don't know
yeah yeah that would work one big drink one big drink yeah I I should rather get
the popcorn cuz if you drink the whole big drink then you have to like go to the bathroom like in the middle of the
movie which is bad terrible it's awful it's terrible like that's the thing
about movies is like it's almost like they're timed so that during the climax
you're going to have to go pee and you can't enjoy it this is why I do not
spend money on beverages usually at the movie not only are they overpriced but
they will detract from your movie watching experience at some point and if it's something like James Bond where if
you miss like one little bit you miss the whole thing then forget it this is why I wear a bag on my leg oh you you
have the stadium pal where you you just you just carry your urine around
strapped to your leg I mean is it really any different from carrying your urine
around inside your bladder yes because
yes because because it's outside of your body and it doesn't make a distracting
schluck schluck sound when you every time take a step so do you hate people
who wear Stadium Pals is this is this a thing do you hate these people I don't
hate those people I just think they should you know go home and rethink their lives so all right so on that note
thank you for tuning in to the W show we will see you guys again next week same
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all right are we doing after
party we never do anymore because we do
this at it used to be that we filmed
uh before the end of the day if I recall correctly but now we don't
so I actually don't remember when the wo broadcast time changed but uh it just
kind of
happened someone please make a clip of the butt sex
scene oh that thing where the guy said yeah no no I I I I know what it
is someone's asking why we didn't talk about about
relive um radon relive capture stream
and share your greatest moments and gaming wins with Radeon reive modify
settings quickly conveniently and play seamlessly with the something something
there now we talked about it up to 3%
impact on frames per second um major streaming platforms
inapp toolbar which is just as awful as
NVIDIA's by the look of things I can't believe NVIDIA's redesign design of
their stupid uh Shadow play settings
thing where it's like these ginormous buttons in the middle of the screen
instead of sensible toggles custom overlay features and
details lots of different encoding support including 2160 P30 that's pretty
sexy on the 470 and up um cool there you
go now we did you're welcome
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