WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:05.520 despite the fact that i could bring home pretty much any tv i wanted from our 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:11.280 studio i'm actually still using the first generation lg signature OLED that 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:13.200 i set up in here about two years ago the 00:00:11.280 --> 00:00:17.440 industrial design looks absolutely perfect in my living room and while OLED 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:23.359 technology has actually come a long way in that time the image quality on it is like already 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:25.119 good enough for me 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:30.160 but even though i am the kind of person for 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:33.680 whom OLED was pretty much made i've come to a realization 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:38.960 that screen over there is actually the primary gaming display 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:42.640 in this house so my son's not allowed to play mobile games i find very little 00:00:41.360 --> 00:00:47.360 time to cloister myself away in the office 00:00:44.559 --> 00:00:52.399 upstairs so i do most of my gaming here which means we actually game here more 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:56.280 than we watch movies or tv so 00:00:53.440 --> 00:01:04.479 this is the rog swift pg-65u ASUS big format gaming display or 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.240 bfgd let's see if it can take over my 00:01:04.479 --> 00:01:11.040 living room private internet access 00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:15.040 that's exactly what you'll get with pia a safe and protected ip and it's got 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:19.360 loads of other features as well check it out at the link in the video description 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:23.200 now the funny thing about this product is you guys might actually remember 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:28.640 seeing it on our channel months ago but it's only just now 00:01:26.720 --> 00:01:31.600 making its way to retail shelves 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:36.159 and there are a couple of reasons for that 00:01:33.600 --> 00:01:40.159 one is that ASUS felt like they needed a little bit more time to cook it and two 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:46.000 is that they were actually working on some really cool features so something 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:47.119 that the pg65u has that other bfgds 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:52.399 don't is the ability to run variable refresh 00:01:49.759 --> 00:01:59.439 rate not just on the displayport input for pc but also on the HDMI input if 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:05.040 you're more of an xbox gamer for example and this is some of the heaviest most 00:02:02.240 --> 00:02:07.920 dense foam that i have ever encountered look at this 00:02:06.399 --> 00:02:11.280 whoa okay well i shouldn't step on just one side well that's better 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:16.319 look at that it is barely even compressing 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:20.640 someone worked hard on that little piece of paper but we don't care 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:25.040 is this an included calibrator you know what i think this is 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:29.840 is an ambient light sensor ah so this is another thing ASUS was 00:02:26.720 --> 00:02:31.200 working on in our review of hp's bfgd we 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:35.519 weren't that impressed with the fact that it uses its integrated NVIDIA 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:40.080 shield as the only controller for the tv so this one has a separate tv controller 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:44.560 the flip side of that though is that the rog swift doesn't have an integrated 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:48.080 NVIDIA shield actually i'm gonna have to take off my 00:02:46.959 --> 00:02:54.879 sweater i think i'm getting a little warm lttstore.com so it actually has the 00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:56.480 stand on it already that's nice but it 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:59.760 does make it a bit of a challenge to get out of here 00:02:59.760 --> 00:03:03.000 oh boy 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:12.400 not all of how dark my shirt is right now is sweat some of it is rain it's 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:15.280 raining out there see this box is wet evidence that it was raining 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:19.680 okay oh there we go okay 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:24.720 man i gotta say one thing 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:28.480 about these bfgds is that 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:32.400 it's kind of like going back in time this is 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:36.640 pretty thick the good news is that for my setup it doesn't matter because i 00:03:34.640 --> 00:03:41.200 have to have a large console down here anyway so it makes no difference for me 00:03:39.440 --> 00:03:45.920 but for some people that might be a consideration so it uses a nipple style 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:48.959 navigation joystick over here but it also has these other four buttons which 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:53.920 i guess we'll investigate later power switch power input there's the 00:03:51.519 --> 00:03:59.519 integrated usb 3 hub it's got wow this is really nice it's actually got four 00:03:56.720 --> 00:04:05.680 HDMI inputs which is great DisplayPort in and optical audio 00:04:02.799 --> 00:04:10.959 i figured out what that thing is there's a dedicated aura sync usb port here it's 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:16.400 an RGB light well then we might as well install it 00:04:14.640 --> 00:04:20.479 shadow honey that's the vase amount so yes the 00:04:18.479 --> 00:04:24.160 nice people on youtube do need to know about the vase amount on the back but 00:04:22.320 --> 00:04:29.360 you don't need to paw at it thank you oh thank goodness i actually 00:04:27.440 --> 00:04:34.960 wasn't sure what type of remote they were using i i use a logitech harmony 00:04:32.960 --> 00:04:39.120 and it occurred to me that this thing is so new it might not have all the code so 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:44.160 this is going to be a little bit of tedious reprogramming but that's okay 00:04:41.440 --> 00:04:48.880 sorry bud you've served me well i guess it's time for you to go out to 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:51.919 pasture though now one thing i have immediately noticed here that it's going 00:04:50.320 --> 00:04:57.280 to be a bit of a downgrade is that this tv does not have any type of analog 00:04:54.880 --> 00:05:03.040 inputs so i don't think i have anything plugged into my uh component cables back 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:07.759 there but it's just it just means i'm not going to have that option 00:05:05.520 --> 00:05:12.479 now the bfgd i had kind of accounted for moving on my own this one with its 00:05:10.479 --> 00:05:15.520 integrated sound bar and everything i kind of hadn't 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.880 i will try not to break it but if i break it it better be on 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:28.240 all camera i'm gonna stash this over here 00:05:30.400 --> 00:05:35.520 oh okay that wasn't too bad sweet 00:05:34.080 --> 00:05:40.320 oh that is some dust 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.039 and it's gone am i high enough 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:49.440 uh yeah it runs a little now it's not all right yeah got it 00:05:47.840 --> 00:05:54.160 okay there you go 00:05:52.479 --> 00:06:01.280 okay dash no no oh weird i just realized this tv doesn't 00:05:59.039 --> 00:06:07.840 have an Ethernet port because it doesn't have an NVIDIA shield that makes sense 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:10.000 so it's not a smart tv wow it's got a 00:06:07.840 --> 00:06:14.400 cooling fan in here when i plugged this thing in it went 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:18.240 again not actually a feature that's desirable 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:24.080 for you know television but one thing that's giving me pause already 00:06:20.479 --> 00:06:26.319 is the very gamery aesthetic now this i 00:06:24.080 --> 00:06:30.400 have been over for a long time when it comes to monitors but this is my living 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:33.759 room i think i'd probably have to wall mount this thing in order to 00:06:32.400 --> 00:06:38.560 feel like it doesn't look kind of stupid like just these little red accents on 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:43.199 the bottom here the rog logo doesn't make sense 00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:48.720 i forgot that my gaming pc in the living room is actually running a mirror 00:06:45.919 --> 00:06:54.240 980 ti now that's still a pretty decent graphics card for most applications but 00:06:51.919 --> 00:06:58.240 if you're have gonna have any hope of running 4k high refresh rate 00:06:57.280 --> 00:07:03.039 it is woefully inadequate oh wow this is 00:07:01.039 --> 00:07:06.560 actually kind of a janky rig i haven't worked on this in a while and i forgot 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:11.520 um so physically it looks like an rtx 2080 00:07:09.280 --> 00:07:14.840 ti is gonna fit in here but 00:07:12.400 --> 00:07:19.039 this is only an antec true power 550 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:23.840 power supply it also occurs to me now that back when i built this 00:07:21.039 --> 00:07:30.479 uh 4th gen core i5 was a pretty decent gaming processor 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.800 uh you've served me well 980 ti vr 00:07:30.479 --> 00:07:35.520 edition with the special HDMI port on the back 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:40.160 so there's only one solution 00:07:37.919 --> 00:07:44.720 bring my gaming rig with the rtx titan in it 00:07:42.880 --> 00:07:48.639 down to the living room and spend some real quality time with 00:07:46.880 --> 00:07:52.479 this thing tonight i will know for sure whether it's worth 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:56.319 putting the clearly significant amount of effort 00:07:54.240 --> 00:08:02.400 that it's going to be into switching to this thing all right so i spent the 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:06.800 night with this puppy and i ran into a lot of problems this needs to be wall 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:11.120 mounted like being able to see the back of the stand and some wires back here 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:15.360 and stuff like that it's not tidy it's got to go on the wall 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:21.440 i didn't even think of this before i started but the optical audio cable has 00:08:18.479 --> 00:08:26.800 been basically obsolete for about 10 years now ever since blu-ray and the hd 00:08:24.479 --> 00:08:32.479 audio formats that came with it started appearing in the wild because 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:35.360 there's no standard for it cannot carry 00:08:32.479 --> 00:08:40.560 hd audio the way you get hd audio from whatever's playing it to whatever's 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:45.600 supposed to be making the noises in the airwaves is over HDMI you go out from 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:50.560 your source so in this case it's a computer into your excuse me 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:55.200 your av receiver which is then plugged into your 00:08:52.160 --> 00:08:57.600 multi-channel speaker arrangement except 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:03.040 we aren't using HDMI we're going displayport directly into the tv and we 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:07.760 need audio to go to the receiver some other way so one idea i came up with was 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:13.920 to set up my receiver as kind of like a phantom secondary output and clone the 00:09:10.880 --> 00:09:15.519 output from my displayport tv 00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:18.240 to my receiver so you can see i'm plugged into the aux jack at the front 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:23.519 here and we've got 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:28.800 our two displays cloned and actually everything here looks 00:09:25.680 --> 00:09:33.360 like it's gonna go just fine until we go 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:35.040 into the Windows hd color menu and 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:39.519 womp-womp when you're cloning 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:44.320 there is no way to enable HDR 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:51.519 so you'll see what happens here is when i set these to not clone oh no 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:53.200 no no why is to the primary display 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:57.360 i was playing around with this all night last night and i couldn't get HDR 00:09:55.440 --> 00:10:00.560 enabled on this display even when they were extended it just kept i kept 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:05.440 hitting the box and it kept saying would you like to apply this change and i said yeah and then the box would just go back 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:10.480 to where it was yes the audio is working correctly over my 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.920 speakers you hear that wicked coil wine coming 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:17.600 out of my desktop machine i never noticed because it sits in a closet by 00:10:15.680 --> 00:10:21.600 itself but seems to be coming from the titan 00:10:21.760 --> 00:10:28.000 yeah i know that's how i feel about it too i am so happy right now i don't know 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:30.640 why it didn't work last night and i don't know why it's working now but oh 00:10:29.680 --> 00:10:36.720 ow so that's great that was actually the biggest problem that i had no way to 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:42.000 solve because while it is a pretty cludgy solution i found this great app 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:46.320 in like two minutes called uh what is this dual monitor tools it 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:51.200 allows you to lock your cursor onto a single screen on boot up so you don't 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:53.600 have to run around and reconfigure it freaking awesome 00:10:52.640 --> 00:10:58.880 and thanks to my logitech harmony remote no one else 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:03.839 in my family has to know about all this clutchy nonsense because i can just go 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:06.000 okay when we're ready to watch pc the 00:11:03.839 --> 00:11:09.680 receiver fires up it switches to this input we 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:14.079 have the tv turned on how it 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:19.440 would work ASUS has not apparently gotten in touch with logitech so the 00:11:15.680 --> 00:11:21.120 pg65u is not in their database for their 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:25.120 harmony remotes which wouldn't be a problem because you can actually train 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:30.399 your harmony remote using your existing remote if your existing remote doesn't 00:11:27.680 --> 00:11:33.360 kind of suck ASUS was pretty proud of their better remote experience compared 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:37.600 to hp but better means like three more buttons 00:11:35.920 --> 00:11:41.360 apparently so there's a number of functions that i would need in order to 00:11:39.760 --> 00:11:46.880 integrate this with my harmony setup that i don't have first is dedicated 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:50.959 power on and off buttons a power toggle means that if the ir signal ever gets 00:11:48.959 --> 00:11:54.640 missed you get out of sync so it starts firing up your receiver and turning off 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:59.279 your tv and then vice versa every time you try to start a scene number two is 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:04.240 it needs dedicated buttons for the inputs not just an input selector button 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:09.200 that works once in a while and then scrolling through the inputs why can't i 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:13.120 roll over once i get to the end of a menu that's just basic stuff you guys 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:17.519 and also these programmable buttons while a really good idea in theory that 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:21.680 would have allowed me to train my harmony remote with all those functions 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:26.480 can only do a couple of things brightness input select game plus and 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:30.399 game visual why would input select be one of them i already have an input 00:12:28.560 --> 00:12:34.720 select button and i haven't even gotten into the issues with movies yet now i 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:38.560 did say we game more on this tv than we watch movies but that doesn't mean that 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:43.920 we don't watch movies and this one isn't ASUS fault in particular but the plex 00:12:40.959 --> 00:12:49.680 app for pc you can see results in this very washed out ugly gross picture when 00:12:47.040 --> 00:12:52.959 i'm in HDR mode on my monitor switching over 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:57.279 to an NVIDIA shield on the other hand for whatever reason this 00:12:54.880 --> 00:13:02.639 looks exactly like you'd expect HDR content to look and it's exactly the 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:04.880 same file now the good news here is that 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:07.839 aside from the glow around my mute icon here one moment 00:13:06.959 --> 00:13:14.240 please ah that's better local dimming has its issues but the 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:19.200 good news is that when the stars align and you get HDR content going on this 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:23.920 thing it looks absolutely freaking awesome i'm really pleased to say that 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:28.480 one of my major concerns going from OLED back to an lcd of some sort was that i'd 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:32.880 have to deal with the glow whenever you're watching letterboxed 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:37.600 content on a 16x9 display when you're in a dark room like it's quite distracting 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:42.000 but i'm very pleased to report that when you have absolutely nothing 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:47.200 sitting around like like a mute icon for example it is pitch black i couldn't see 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:51.760 it even last night with all the lights off and complete darkness outside now 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:55.120 Windows poor handling of HDR content is obviously not a new problem and it's 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:59.839 something that i will be able to work around as long as ASUS works with 00:13:57.680 --> 00:14:04.160 logitech to get harmony integration going because this is not an amazing 00:14:01.920 --> 00:14:08.639 remote the good news is the rest of the on-screen display is about what you 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:14.000 would expect for a gaming monitor you can adjust overdrive you can adjust the 00:14:10.959 --> 00:14:16.079 speed of the 384 local dimming zones so 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:19.279 like how quickly they try to react to the content that's on the screen when 00:14:17.760 --> 00:14:22.800 you're not in HDR mode you can make adjustments to things like 00:14:21.040 --> 00:14:27.600 gamma and all that kind of good stuff but honestly with how calibrated this 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:32.480 thing is out of the box i actually wouldn't recommend touching it at all it 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.600 looks absolutely freaking fantastic and 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:38.399 of course you can overclock 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:43.680 so if you turn max refresh rate on you can go from 120 hertz max to 144 hertz 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:47.360 max but there's going to be some limitations so 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:51.600 at 144 you're dealing with chroma subsampling which if you're using the 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:56.639 desktop rather than playing a game can be quite noticeable in like this colored 00:14:53.760 --> 00:15:02.079 fringing around text at 120 you are limited to 8-bit color and at 98 hertz 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:08.720 that's gonna be the best experience when you're at the desktop because you're able to run RGB 00:15:05.839 --> 00:15:13.839 10-bit color at well far greater than the 60 hertz refresh rate that you'd be 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:15.279 stuck with with any other 4k tv now 00:15:13.839 --> 00:15:20.240 let's move on to something that we haven't done yet now shadow of the tomb 00:15:17.040 --> 00:15:22.399 raider ran super smooth thank you g-sync 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:26.880 guys i'm i'm not a competitive gamer so i'm a huge fan of g-sync and games like 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:30.720 that definitely benefit from the animation smoothness even if it does 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:35.199 come at the cost of a little bit of input delay 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:42.240 but this is a game you don't want any leg on oh yes so smooth now one thing 00:15:39.680 --> 00:15:45.279 that i did find noticeable from time to time 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:50.160 is this weird banding where you can kind of see the borders between the lighting 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.720 zones is what it looks like i can only see them vertically though 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:57.759 which is weird i can't see them horizontally but it does kind of look like what would be the spacing of the 00:15:55.839 --> 00:16:02.000 full array local dimming zones man it is so noticeable 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.320 on a game like this oops 00:16:05.199 --> 00:16:13.040 how do i get over there of course we couldn't call a bfgd 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:16.880 video complete without talking about the mouse and keyboard living room 00:16:14.880 --> 00:16:21.360 experience so i mean it is a challenge that there are aspects of a lot of pc 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:24.720 games particularly mouse and keyboard ones that are not built to be enjoyed 00:16:23.839 --> 00:16:29.839 from you know 10 or 15 feet away but all the 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:34.880 usual complaints that you have about gaming on a tv whether it's input lag or 00:16:32.880 --> 00:16:38.720 whether it's response time of the pixels or whatever the case may be are 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:41.040 basically non-issues here wow 00:16:39.839 --> 00:16:48.399 really cat so i think i'm ready for the conclusion and it was far from a foregone one you 00:16:46.160 --> 00:16:52.320 can see here my OLED didn't really go very far away there was a solid chance 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:56.320 that this was going right back on the console when we were done here but it 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:59.839 looks like the bfgd is here to stay it has the obvious advantages of its 00:16:58.079 --> 00:17:04.880 thousand knit peak brightness and HDR games and movies and two of my major 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:10.319 concerns one being the glow around letterbox 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:14.240 content and the other being the glow around bright objects moving across dark 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:18.959 backgrounds kind of like these here these blue snowflakes moving across this 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:23.679 dark chasm and cross code here ended up not being issues so i'm getting 00:17:21.919 --> 00:17:29.760 high refresh rate gaming with basically no downside 00:17:27.439 --> 00:17:36.480 because i happen to be a super techy nerdy person who already 00:17:33.760 --> 00:17:42.080 has a lot of the downsides taken care of like not everybody already has a couch 00:17:39.360 --> 00:17:47.919 keyboard mouse setup that's wired into their home theater console not everybody 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:49.760 has a gaming pc as part of their living 00:17:47.919 --> 00:17:52.880 room yeah this whole thing needs a complete rebuild i guess we'll do a 00:17:51.520 --> 00:17:56.559 video about it make sure you guys are subscribed so you don't miss that but if 00:17:55.039 --> 00:18:01.760 you're willing to work around those issues and if ASUS works with logitech 00:17:59.840 --> 00:18:06.320 to get harmony integration i just don't really see a downside here 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.559 pulseway is a real-time remote monitoring and management software that 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:14.960 helps you fix problems on the go you can send 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