despite the fact that i could bring home pretty much any tv i wanted from our
studio i'm actually still using the first generation lg signature OLED that
i set up in here about two years ago the
industrial design looks absolutely perfect in my living room and while OLED
technology has actually come a long way in that time the image quality on it is like already
good enough for me
but even though i am the kind of person for
whom OLED was pretty much made i've come to a realization
that screen over there is actually the primary gaming display
in this house so my son's not allowed to play mobile games i find very little
time to cloister myself away in the office
upstairs so i do most of my gaming here which means we actually game here more
than we watch movies or tv so
this is the rog swift pg-65u ASUS big format gaming display or
bfgd let's see if it can take over my
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now the funny thing about this product is you guys might actually remember
seeing it on our channel months ago but it's only just now
making its way to retail shelves
and there are a couple of reasons for that
one is that ASUS felt like they needed a little bit more time to cook it and two
is that they were actually working on some really cool features so something
that the pg65u has that other bfgds
don't is the ability to run variable refresh
rate not just on the displayport input for pc but also on the HDMI input if
you're more of an xbox gamer for example and this is some of the heaviest most
dense foam that i have ever encountered look at this
whoa okay well i shouldn't step on just one side well that's better
look at that it is barely even compressing
someone worked hard on that little piece of paper but we don't care
is this an included calibrator you know what i think this is
is an ambient light sensor ah so this is another thing ASUS was
working on in our review of hp's bfgd we
weren't that impressed with the fact that it uses its integrated NVIDIA
shield as the only controller for the tv so this one has a separate tv controller
the flip side of that though is that the rog swift doesn't have an integrated
NVIDIA shield actually i'm gonna have to take off my
sweater i think i'm getting a little warm lttstore.com so it actually has the
stand on it already that's nice but it
does make it a bit of a challenge to get out of here
oh boy
not all of how dark my shirt is right now is sweat some of it is rain it's
raining out there see this box is wet evidence that it was raining
okay oh there we go okay
man i gotta say one thing
about these bfgds is that
it's kind of like going back in time this is
pretty thick the good news is that for my setup it doesn't matter because i
have to have a large console down here anyway so it makes no difference for me
but for some people that might be a consideration so it uses a nipple style
navigation joystick over here but it also has these other four buttons which
i guess we'll investigate later power switch power input there's the
integrated usb 3 hub it's got wow this is really nice it's actually got four
HDMI inputs which is great DisplayPort in and optical audio
i figured out what that thing is there's a dedicated aura sync usb port here it's
an RGB light well then we might as well install it
shadow honey that's the vase amount so yes the
nice people on youtube do need to know about the vase amount on the back but
you don't need to paw at it thank you oh thank goodness i actually
wasn't sure what type of remote they were using i i use a logitech harmony
and it occurred to me that this thing is so new it might not have all the code so
this is going to be a little bit of tedious reprogramming but that's okay
sorry bud you've served me well i guess it's time for you to go out to
pasture though now one thing i have immediately noticed here that it's going
to be a bit of a downgrade is that this tv does not have any type of analog
inputs so i don't think i have anything plugged into my uh component cables back
there but it's just it just means i'm not going to have that option
now the bfgd i had kind of accounted for moving on my own this one with its
integrated sound bar and everything i kind of hadn't
i will try not to break it but if i break it it better be on
all camera i'm gonna stash this over here
oh okay that wasn't too bad sweet
oh that is some dust
and it's gone am i high enough
uh yeah it runs a little now it's not all right yeah got it
okay there you go
okay dash no no oh weird i just realized this tv doesn't
have an Ethernet port because it doesn't have an NVIDIA shield that makes sense
so it's not a smart tv wow it's got a
cooling fan in here when i plugged this thing in it went
again not actually a feature that's desirable
for you know television but one thing that's giving me pause already
is the very gamery aesthetic now this i
have been over for a long time when it comes to monitors but this is my living
room i think i'd probably have to wall mount this thing in order to
feel like it doesn't look kind of stupid like just these little red accents on
the bottom here the rog logo doesn't make sense
i forgot that my gaming pc in the living room is actually running a mirror
980 ti now that's still a pretty decent graphics card for most applications but
if you're have gonna have any hope of running 4k high refresh rate
it is woefully inadequate oh wow this is
actually kind of a janky rig i haven't worked on this in a while and i forgot
um so physically it looks like an rtx 2080
ti is gonna fit in here but
this is only an antec true power 550
power supply it also occurs to me now that back when i built this
uh 4th gen core i5 was a pretty decent gaming processor
uh you've served me well 980 ti vr
edition with the special HDMI port on the back
so there's only one solution
bring my gaming rig with the rtx titan in it
down to the living room and spend some real quality time with
this thing tonight i will know for sure whether it's worth
putting the clearly significant amount of effort
that it's going to be into switching to this thing all right so i spent the
night with this puppy and i ran into a lot of problems this needs to be wall
mounted like being able to see the back of the stand and some wires back here
and stuff like that it's not tidy it's got to go on the wall
i didn't even think of this before i started but the optical audio cable has
been basically obsolete for about 10 years now ever since blu-ray and the hd
audio formats that came with it started appearing in the wild because
there's no standard for it cannot carry
hd audio the way you get hd audio from whatever's playing it to whatever's
supposed to be making the noises in the airwaves is over HDMI you go out from
your source so in this case it's a computer into your excuse me
your av receiver which is then plugged into your
multi-channel speaker arrangement except
we aren't using HDMI we're going displayport directly into the tv and we
need audio to go to the receiver some other way so one idea i came up with was
to set up my receiver as kind of like a phantom secondary output and clone the
output from my displayport tv
to my receiver so you can see i'm plugged into the aux jack at the front
here and we've got
our two displays cloned and actually everything here looks
like it's gonna go just fine until we go
into the Windows hd color menu and
womp-womp when you're cloning
there is no way to enable HDR
so you'll see what happens here is when i set these to not clone oh no
no no why is to the primary display
i was playing around with this all night last night and i couldn't get HDR
enabled on this display even when they were extended it just kept i kept
hitting the box and it kept saying would you like to apply this change and i said yeah and then the box would just go back
to where it was yes the audio is working correctly over my
speakers you hear that wicked coil wine coming
out of my desktop machine i never noticed because it sits in a closet by
itself but seems to be coming from the titan
yeah i know that's how i feel about it too i am so happy right now i don't know
why it didn't work last night and i don't know why it's working now but oh
ow so that's great that was actually the biggest problem that i had no way to
solve because while it is a pretty cludgy solution i found this great app
in like two minutes called uh what is this dual monitor tools it
allows you to lock your cursor onto a single screen on boot up so you don't
have to run around and reconfigure it freaking awesome
and thanks to my logitech harmony remote no one else
in my family has to know about all this clutchy nonsense because i can just go
okay when we're ready to watch pc the
receiver fires up it switches to this input we
have the tv turned on how it
would work ASUS has not apparently gotten in touch with logitech so the
pg65u is not in their database for their
harmony remotes which wouldn't be a problem because you can actually train
your harmony remote using your existing remote if your existing remote doesn't
kind of suck ASUS was pretty proud of their better remote experience compared
to hp but better means like three more buttons
apparently so there's a number of functions that i would need in order to
integrate this with my harmony setup that i don't have first is dedicated
power on and off buttons a power toggle means that if the ir signal ever gets
missed you get out of sync so it starts firing up your receiver and turning off
your tv and then vice versa every time you try to start a scene number two is
it needs dedicated buttons for the inputs not just an input selector button
that works once in a while and then scrolling through the inputs why can't i
roll over once i get to the end of a menu that's just basic stuff you guys
and also these programmable buttons while a really good idea in theory that
would have allowed me to train my harmony remote with all those functions
can only do a couple of things brightness input select game plus and
game visual why would input select be one of them i already have an input
select button and i haven't even gotten into the issues with movies yet now i
did say we game more on this tv than we watch movies but that doesn't mean that
we don't watch movies and this one isn't ASUS fault in particular but the plex
app for pc you can see results in this very washed out ugly gross picture when
i'm in HDR mode on my monitor switching over
to an NVIDIA shield on the other hand for whatever reason this
looks exactly like you'd expect HDR content to look and it's exactly the
same file now the good news here is that
aside from the glow around my mute icon here one moment
please ah that's better local dimming has its issues but the
good news is that when the stars align and you get HDR content going on this
thing it looks absolutely freaking awesome i'm really pleased to say that
one of my major concerns going from OLED back to an lcd of some sort was that i'd
have to deal with the glow whenever you're watching letterboxed
content on a 16x9 display when you're in a dark room like it's quite distracting
but i'm very pleased to report that when you have absolutely nothing
sitting around like like a mute icon for example it is pitch black i couldn't see
it even last night with all the lights off and complete darkness outside now
Windows poor handling of HDR content is obviously not a new problem and it's
something that i will be able to work around as long as ASUS works with
logitech to get harmony integration going because this is not an amazing
remote the good news is the rest of the on-screen display is about what you
would expect for a gaming monitor you can adjust overdrive you can adjust the
speed of the 384 local dimming zones so
like how quickly they try to react to the content that's on the screen when
you're not in HDR mode you can make adjustments to things like
gamma and all that kind of good stuff but honestly with how calibrated this
thing is out of the box i actually wouldn't recommend touching it at all it
looks absolutely freaking fantastic and
of course you can overclock
so if you turn max refresh rate on you can go from 120 hertz max to 144 hertz
max but there's going to be some limitations so
at 144 you're dealing with chroma subsampling which if you're using the
desktop rather than playing a game can be quite noticeable in like this colored
fringing around text at 120 you are limited to 8-bit color and at 98 hertz
that's gonna be the best experience when you're at the desktop because you're able to run RGB
10-bit color at well far greater than the 60 hertz refresh rate that you'd be
stuck with with any other 4k tv now
let's move on to something that we haven't done yet now shadow of the tomb
raider ran super smooth thank you g-sync
guys i'm i'm not a competitive gamer so i'm a huge fan of g-sync and games like
that definitely benefit from the animation smoothness even if it does
come at the cost of a little bit of input delay
but this is a game you don't want any leg on oh yes so smooth now one thing
that i did find noticeable from time to time
is this weird banding where you can kind of see the borders between the lighting
zones is what it looks like i can only see them vertically though
which is weird i can't see them horizontally but it does kind of look like what would be the spacing of the
full array local dimming zones man it is so noticeable
on a game like this oops
how do i get over there of course we couldn't call a bfgd
video complete without talking about the mouse and keyboard living room
experience so i mean it is a challenge that there are aspects of a lot of pc
games particularly mouse and keyboard ones that are not built to be enjoyed
from you know 10 or 15 feet away but all the
usual complaints that you have about gaming on a tv whether it's input lag or
whether it's response time of the pixels or whatever the case may be are
basically non-issues here wow
really cat so i think i'm ready for the conclusion and it was far from a foregone one you
can see here my OLED didn't really go very far away there was a solid chance
that this was going right back on the console when we were done here but it
looks like the bfgd is here to stay it has the obvious advantages of its
thousand knit peak brightness and HDR games and movies and two of my major
concerns one being the glow around letterbox
content and the other being the glow around bright objects moving across dark
backgrounds kind of like these here these blue snowflakes moving across this
dark chasm and cross code here ended up not being issues so i'm getting
high refresh rate gaming with basically no downside
because i happen to be a super techy nerdy person who already
has a lot of the downsides taken care of like not everybody already has a couch
keyboard mouse setup that's wired into their home theater console not everybody
has a gaming pc as part of their living
room yeah this whole thing needs a complete rebuild i guess we'll do a
video about it make sure you guys are subscribed so you don't miss that but if
you're willing to work around those issues and if ASUS works with logitech
to get harmony integration i just don't really see a downside here
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