WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:06.640 it's a play we've seen many times over the years your competitor catches you 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:10.080 completely by surprise with a vastly superior product there's no time to 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:15.200 develop something new so you reach for the nearest heatsink slap it on the back 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:19.520 and overclock the snot out of it that's essentially what lg's done here by 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:23.920 adding an aluminum heatsink layer to the second gen OLED panel technology we saw 00:00:21.439 --> 00:00:28.400 them introduced last year they claim they've managed to boost up peak 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:34.000 brightness by up to 30 percent it's actually not a bad move OLED's biggest 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:37.760 problem is it's low brightness but is it enough to win a place in the 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:41.840 family room of my new house i guess it doesn't really matter unless i can pay 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:47.039 for it somehow 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00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:28.799 heatsink as lg is calling it appears to be an attempt to manage this heat in 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:33.840 direct response to samsung's much brighter qd OLED tvs and from our 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:38.159 initial tests it seems to work as expected we weren't able to measure some 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:41.759 of the 1000 plus nit claims that we've seen from other reviewers but after 00:01:39.759 --> 00:01:47.119 finding and disabling the buried energy saving feature we did manage to hit a 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:49.119 respectable 930 nits in luminance 00:01:47.119 --> 00:01:55.920 stability testing despite only hitting 880 nits in a 1 to 10 window the problem 00:01:53.360 --> 00:02:01.600 though is that while it's a good idea it's not exactly a new idea sony's a90j 00:01:59.119 --> 00:02:07.520 OLED from last year features a similar approach and also still gets wamped by 00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:11.520 samsung's new qd OLED lineup which has a couple of other key advantages much 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:16.080 better color saturation from not needing a white sub pixel and much better 00:02:13.920 --> 00:02:19.520 efficiency thanks to using quantum dots rather than color filters oh and if 00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:23.360 you've been paying attention you might already realize that better efficiency 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:27.599 means that you can boost your oleds higher without them heating up as much 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:31.040 reducing the risk of burning we'll talk a bit more about that later but first 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:35.840 let's see how much lg has managed to improve over last year's flagship 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:40.239 unfortunately it's pretty obvious which one is which because the bezel is so 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:45.760 much skinnier on the wow it's also a lot brighter right huh okay even well i 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:48.879 guess especially in a lit room with all the studio lighting that's very 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:55.280 noticeable both of them support all the latest bells and whistles g-sync auto low 00:02:52.560 --> 00:03:00.959 latency mode variable refresh rate HDMI 2.1 actually the g2 has two e-arc ports 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:05.280 which is kind of cool if you have multiple audio setups for whatever 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:09.760 reason but the main difference is immediately apparent sitting in front of 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:14.640 them the g2 is noticeably brighter similar color accuracy out of the box 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:19.040 but the brighter you go the more vibrant colors are perceived to be 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:22.159 at least all other things being equal are they both in filmmaker mode yeah 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:26.000 they should be uh well when they go to this they're in like a 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:29.680 theater home or something the brightness does make a 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:33.440 difference though oh first yeah sure like it's 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:38.239 it makes it feel less like he's standing in a gray space and more like he's 00:03:35.920 --> 00:03:42.799 standing in overcast with the sun shining through the clouds it really is 00:03:40.480 --> 00:03:46.799 really is a very noticeable difference oh wow it's huge you can see a ton of 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:51.920 detail on this that just gets kind of lost here like if you pause it 00:03:48.720 --> 00:03:53.840 oh yeah yeah for sure yeah night and day 00:03:51.920 --> 00:03:58.159 but compared to the cutie OLED this is brown it should be like yellow and red 00:03:56.799 --> 00:04:02.239 like it's hard cause the glare from the studio lights and it doesn't have 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:06.239 trouble hitting the highlights either the highlights are brighter 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.680 and the blacks are deeper and they're both dolby vision capable lg 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:15.360 has i mean it might not be elegant but lg has 00:04:13.040 --> 00:04:21.840 certainly improved over last gen i do wonder if part of this is lg just 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:26.560 improving the color profile and then maybe doing it for the old one maybe 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:31.040 that's really overcooked in terms of the blues 00:04:29.520 --> 00:04:35.280 it doesn't change the end result whether it's software or hardware it looks much 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:39.600 better on the new set as for out of the box color accuracy our 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:45.680 g2 and filmmaker mode got a respectable delta e average of 3.6 in sdr and 7.2 in 00:04:43.440 --> 00:04:48.960 HDR without luminance errors that's pretty good for a display that we 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:52.160 got off the shelf at the local visions and that doesn't come with a calibration 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:57.360 report in the box with that said the s95b qdo led from 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:02.160 samsung that we just reviewed beat it handily both with and without their 00:05:00.080 --> 00:05:05.919 calibration app that only requires a newish smartphone to get a shockingly 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:10.800 accurate picture oh and it comes in at 200 less than the 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:14.960 g2 sounds like you should just get the samsung then right 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:19.680 well that's what we thought but when we took delivery of our g2 the visions rep 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:22.960 mentioned that they've actually avoided putting the two models next to each 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:29.520 other on the show floor because apparently compared to lg the samsung's 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:31.840 blacks look downright gray but i haven't 00:05:29.520 --> 00:05:34.479 had a chance to look at them and confirm that is 00:05:32.960 --> 00:05:40.320 until now oh wow i see it already the gray holy crap it's 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:43.520 gray yeah and when you turn off the lights it looks black 00:05:42.479 --> 00:05:48.479 but side by side it does look super grey by 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:53.360 comparison right yeah yeah yeah honestly i don't even think it looks as good as 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:57.520 samsung's latest like quantum dot mini leds 00:05:55.039 --> 00:06:02.160 is it just an anti-glare coating i don't know because because 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:06.479 the glare is much less 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:10.639 so if you get the perfect blacks in the blackness yeah 00:06:08.479 --> 00:06:15.039 and less glare i wouldn't say it's a disadvantage see 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:20.319 what i thought when the visions rep said oh it looks gray by comparison was that 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:25.919 the pixels were not turning off oh yeah yeah but that's not what this is yeah 00:06:22.400 --> 00:06:28.160 this is what i think it is is a light 00:06:25.919 --> 00:06:31.840 reflecting and scattering anti-glare layer turn the lights off 00:06:30.960 --> 00:06:38.160 now now they're almost identical it looks black on the bottom 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:43.120 you know what else is almost identical the performance of these two tvs to my 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:45.840 bare eyes yeah if you told me 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:51.840 that these are the same model of tv i would believe that this was simply uh a 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:56.240 batch to batch variant yeah now that particular movie we're using 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.319 the same HDR grade between the two right 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:05.440 what if we pick something that supports dolby vision does the lg have an 00:07:02.080 --> 00:07:07.680 advantage it might to the extent that 00:07:05.440 --> 00:07:11.360 dolby vision will give you a wider range technically until HDR 10 plus is 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:15.120 improved the problem is we can't really do that 00:07:13.599 --> 00:07:20.000 with our stuff with our splitter you know i wonder if lg is juicing their 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:25.840 greens a little bit it looks greener on this right just a tiny to compensate for 00:07:23.520 --> 00:07:30.880 wo lead because it does seem like a bit of an unnatural green yeah the 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:33.919 lg looks just a little bit more costly but it's not necessarily a bad thing 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:38.080 right like it looks good good if i didn't see this next to it i wouldn't 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:43.360 pick it out as yeah oh they've just got the vibrancy cranked yeah vivid mode you 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:46.720 know it's not like that no but in testing i mean 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:52.800 this did do significantly better we're talking really minor amounts like if i 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:56.160 looked at a 3.7 delta e average and then i looked at a 2.7 delta e average i'm 00:07:55.120 --> 00:08:02.160 probably not going to be able to tell the difference and a lot of these differences could 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:04.560 easily come down to filmmaker creative vision 00:08:03.039 --> 00:08:09.199 as opposed to just this one is definitely more true to 00:08:07.039 --> 00:08:13.360 life because films are not necessarily graded in such a way that they are true 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:17.840 to life anyway but if this was the mood they were going for this is a different 00:08:15.599 --> 00:08:21.759 mood totally yeah this is more colorful joyful and it's 1917 it's a war movie so 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.319 you kind of think that the samsung with this like 00:08:23.440 --> 00:08:30.000 not muted but somber yeah looks a lot more accurate or correct i still like 00:08:28.400 --> 00:08:34.800 the samsung more but they are almost identical 00:08:32.719 --> 00:08:39.760 i see why visions didn't want them next to each other right 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:44.240 and it's not in like a deceptive bad way 00:08:39.760 --> 00:08:45.600 in a being fair to the samsung way 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:50.959 interesting all other things being equal choosing between these two is going to be really 00:08:48.640 --> 00:08:56.399 tough the speakers are decidedly better on the s95b but the remote and interface 00:08:53.519 --> 00:09:00.720 is as much better on the g2 while both of them have very similar input lag in 00:08:58.560 --> 00:09:04.240 the neighborhood of 18 to 18 and a half milliseconds 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:07.279 there are some other bigger factors to consider though when choosing between 00:09:05.839 --> 00:09:13.279 OLED and led color fringing on text and burnin 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:17.279 let's start with text because of the pentile layout of the subpixels on 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:22.240 samsung's new flagships if you look closely enough you can see some small 00:09:19.839 --> 00:09:28.640 amounts of color fringing when hard edges meet samsung actually responded to 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:30.640 similar complaints when the aw 3423 dw 00:09:28.640 --> 00:09:35.920 qd OLED gaming monitor launched back in march they said that this issue can also 00:09:33.040 --> 00:09:41.279 be found in lcds and OLED using RGB stripe on the right and left sides of 00:09:38.560 --> 00:09:47.279 high contrasting hard edges but they said because qdl lead has such a wide 00:09:43.839 --> 00:09:48.959 color gamut and superior contrast ratio 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:52.399 and a pentel layout it's easier to spot 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.720 they went on to say that this layout was chosen to optimize color gamut 00:09:54.160 --> 00:09:59.200 brightness and durability which brings us back to our image retention 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:07.279 discussion the panel type that lg has been marketing as OLED is actually w OLED or 00:10:04.800 --> 00:10:11.279 white OLED it works by taking a blue emitter and coating it in a yellow 00:10:09.040 --> 00:10:15.839 phosphor to produce white light that light is then punched through a 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:20.320 color filter to produce the final image with the filter absorbing any unwanted 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:24.880 light reducing the brightness of the entire display in the process 00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:29.040 the harder you drive the pixels the more light can get through that filter but 00:10:27.040 --> 00:10:33.279 the faster the panel will die because the organic material you know the o and 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:37.920 OLED well it decays to increase perceived brightness while 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:44.560 avoiding overdriving their color pixels lg uses a white sub pixel alongside the 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.560 RGB but it's not a perfect solution 00:10:44.560 --> 00:10:50.640 regularly watching tv or even playing video games is unlikely to damage your 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:55.600 panel thanks to technology like pixel shift and automatic static or screen 00:10:53.040 --> 00:10:59.600 brightness limiter or asbl for short the former shifts the image around by a 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:03.440 few pixels every so often while the latter limits brightness on static 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:06.800 elements so anything stationary doesn't get driven as hard leaving a little 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:12.079 outline for you however i have personally experienced 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:16.079 temporary image retention using a 48 inch lg c10 as my office monitor and 00:11:14.560 --> 00:11:21.839 wendell from level 1 techs has experienced permanent burn-in on his 00:11:18.880 --> 00:11:25.519 with qdo led however this may become a non-issue 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:30.320 samsung's tv only has a basic warranty of one year but dell seems confident 00:11:27.920 --> 00:11:34.480 enough to give a three year warranty to this technology as we saw on the 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:39.519 aw3423dw this is thanks to samsung's use of a 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:44.079 blue self-emitting layer and quantum dots since there's no color filter to 00:11:41.680 --> 00:11:49.120 pass through we don't need a white sub pixel in order to boost brightness and 00:11:46.959 --> 00:11:53.200 bright colors are now achievable without driving the panel so hard quantum dots 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:55.680 are crazy efficient when it comes to converting light from one color to 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.040 another samsung is also able to monitor each of 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:05.680 the three layers in a cutie OLED display red green and blue and adjust the output 00:12:03.920 --> 00:12:10.240 accordingly to ensure that one layer doesn't wear out faster than the others 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:14.959 is it perfect and is burn-in a thing of the past 00:12:11.680 --> 00:12:17.680 probably not organic leds in fact any 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:22.639 leds really do degrade over time it's just that at least on paper it should be 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:26.720 much less noticeable now especially since qd OLED is also taking advantage 00:12:24.959 --> 00:12:30.639 of pixel shift and pixel refresher technology like what we've got in the g2 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:34.959 now that the lab is gearing up we're excited to bring you guys long-term 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:38.399 burn-in testing on OLED cutie OLED and all different kinds of panels but it's 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:43.440 still going to be a little while so in the meantime pick up a wan hoodie and get subscribed on Floatplane for a ton 00:12:41.920 --> 00:12:47.279 of behind the scenes content that's not on youtube like Anthony's recent rant 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:50.560 about trains gotta pay for the lab somehow 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:54.959 back to these panels though if in regular tv use each of them is unlikely 00:12:52.880 --> 00:12:59.920 to end up with burn-in which one do you buy or more accurately which one should 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:04.560 i buy i actually bought both of them so it's more like which one should i return 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:09.839 and which one goes into my living room i might end up returning both 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:12.560 lg's last gen g1 is nearly a thousand 00:13:09.839 --> 00:13:17.040 dollars less than either of these and if you have any semblance of light control 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:21.680 in your room it gets pretty darn bright furthermore the next step down from the 00:13:18.959 --> 00:13:26.480 g2 in their current lineup the c2 is only a few hundred bucks more than that 00:13:23.680 --> 00:13:29.920 last gen g1 and is supposedly so similar in performance to the g2 that lg only 00:13:28.560 --> 00:13:33.360 differentiates them by the onboard speakers on their website i suspect 00:13:31.760 --> 00:13:36.240 there are other differences if you want an even better bargain and 00:13:34.959 --> 00:13:42.480 you don't need that many knits in your mom's basement at the time of filming a 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:44.560 65-inch c1 is just 1600 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:48.880 with the c-series also coming in a much wider range of sizes that 42-incher is 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:52.000 looking mighty tempting and i'll be checking it out for myself soon we're 00:13:50.800 --> 00:13:59.600 gonna have links to where to buy all of these down below to be clear even budget OLED tvs are 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.760 very expensive compared to a tcl 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