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game console PC car microwave whatever the first key ad advantage of Sony's PS5 storage system is also its greatest weakness Choice thanks to its industry standard m.2 22110 slot the PS5 can physically accept most ssds on the market everything from the most mundane consumer drive to Exotic data center drives with opan memory on them at least physically in a very pc-like turn of events Sony's compatibility messaging has gotten somewhat complicated and the thing is while any of these drives might fit you can't just go to new egg or Amazon punch in m.2 SSD order the cheapest thing and expect it to work only drives rated for a sustained read speed of 5500 megabytes per second or greater are officially supported so that immediately disqualifies any SATA m.2 drives as well as PCI Express gen 3 drives since PC C Express Gen 4 is required to hit speeds anywhere from 3500 megab per second all the way up to 7,000 megabytes per second single and double-sided drives are both supported though and all of this is great news for Consumer choice because in the long term competition will put pressure on SSD makers to provide solutions that will meet the ps5s performance standards at a fair price now Microsoft has had the upper hand thus far Sony is only just now Bing this upgrade program well Microsoft's co-branded Seagate storage expansion card has been available pretty much since day one for Xbox with big game libraries but the ball is now in Sony's Court cuz $220 is already today stupidly high for a wimpy two-lane NVMe SSD when I can get a top-of-the-line Samsung 980 Pro for $20 less and the situation is only going to keep getting worse if nothing puts pressure on Seagate although to Microsoft's credit their boot storage so the drive installed inside the Xbox is in the form of an m.2 SSD that can be easily replaced if for whatever reason it needed to be serviced Sony on the other hand well their internal storage is soldered so if it dies you're so unless you want to completely replace the main board and additionally you can't quite put in just anything you want your SSD has to be between 250 gigs and 4 terab but the thing is even if I'm not allowed to put my whopping ,000 8 terabyte SSD today theoretically nothing would prevent me from installing it in the future as more options become available so overall Sony's approach is a huge win for Consumer choice and don't believe anyone who tells you that it's too hard or too scary it's actually really easy all you'll need is your SSD of choice a number one Philip screwdriver and of course your PlayStation 5 start by laying it down on its side lifting this corner here and sliding towards the base where it stands wh it actually comes off that easily simply loosen this screw right here try not to lose it loosen this second screw then you see this little ring right here regrettably that's not magnetic you want to put this on the little hole that corresponds to the length of your SSD in our case this is a 2280 SSD that means it's 22 mm wide and 80 mm long so we're going to put this into the 80 there we go then we just take our SSD and Slot it in at the back a little something like this so you can go in at an angle till it clicks then push it down then we screw in that second screw put the heat shield back in place reattach the first screw and put the side panel back on it really is that easy and it only takes that long other than that for now you have to apply for the beta program in order to participate should be fine I'm beta as if your drive has a large cooler that prevents it from fitting in the PlayStation 5's SSD Bay you can remove it but you should check with your manufacturer to ensure that it will still be able to operate safely you know random thought what would prevent you from just installing the SSD with its big chungus heat sink on it and leaving this Shield off anyway Let's uh let's fire it up with our Beta key redeemed we restarted the PS5 opened up the system menu and changed the settings to Beta software now like with any beta program Sony warns us that may be incomplete or contain bugs and they are not responsible for any lost data or damaged Hardware then we fire the thing up and this is it you don't even make it to the home screen you will immediately have to choose hey do you want to format this m.2 SSD or do you want to not format and turn the machine off obviously I want to format it now this is interesting data screenshots and video clips cannot be saved to m.2 storage so if you were thinking wow I don't actually want to install that many games but I want to save a ton of gameplay video clips and just use the m.2 for that you cannot let's see how long this takes it shouldn't take very long pretty toasty storage fire Cuda oh yeah that wow that was really fast I was just going to peek at this cuz seate told us it was specifically made with the PlayStation 5 in mind but I don't see any PlayStation branding anywhere on it which kind of makes sense and we'll talk about that a little bit more later 6500 megabytes a second console storeage installation location PS5 games and apps m.2 storage just like that let's install a game shall we obviously we want the PS5 version this will take a minute well um this is it I've thought maybe it would show me where it's installed but no it's completely transparent well if there was any doubt that we can move around seamlessly in a large open world environment we can put that to rest haven't seen a single stutter no discernable pop in or anything like that there's enough Distortion from the like uh film grain the kind of lens Distortion that they do around the edges of the frame and stuff like that that you'd be able to mask a lot of it wow that is very cool and very deta oh they're all the same this is such an unintuitive selector prioritize image quality or prioritize resolution choose whether to prioritize visual quality or frame rate that's not what resolution means I think resolution means frame rate but I mean a game like this they're going to be loading the whole map anyway so I wouldn't expect there to be any difference but as expected it works fine oh no that's what happens when I don't have other cars to help me oh they all passed me I think there's a lot of assists on right now this is like the tutorial all right so everything is totally Perfect come on third page yes of course all of this is as we expected why would Sony roll out this beta if they didn't have a pretty good idea that it was going to perform as it should but what happens if you do not follow Sony's instructions to find out we have prepared a couple of other ssds to try including this one right here which violates a couple of Sony's guidelines this is an 8 TB SSD and it is PCI Express gen 3 rather than PCI Express Gen 4 I love how fast this swap is man there you go I could speed swap ssds on the PlayStation 5 all day here we go ladies and gentlemen do they actually lock it out or do they just kind of not guarantee that it'll work oh straight up no now I have a feeling that this capacity restriction is just because there aren't any 8 tbte PCI Express Gen 4 drives right now and that they would actually lift that once there is a Gen 4 8 TB drive but there you go it's a simple as that it checks if you're a gen 3 drive and says no cuz it knows it's not going to be fast enough that's fine cuz I have a new idea let's go ahead and try a PCI Express Gen 4 drive but an older one that might not meet Sony's speed recommendations this partic this particular drive right here is rated by Corsair at I think 4 and2 gabyt per second right and 5 GB per second reads it's one of the first gen 4 drives it's a little confusing because I think they still have an mp600 in their product lineup but now it's like core or Pro or something like that whatever we have the OG one very curious to see how it treats that okay at least it gives me the option to format this one though it really is kind of a bummer that Sony doesn't just give me the option to throw a gen 3 drive in and you know store my video clips on it but they don't let you store video clips at all I guess the intention is look this is a game drive that that's how we've architected it and like all right fair enough okay if you experience problems while playing a game install the m.2 storage try installing it in console storage so even though we are really close to the speed of a good gen 3 drive it's at least allowing me given that it is a Gen 4 drive to install to this one huh I'm surprised I would have thought the purpose of running that Benchmark would be to Det determine if there's enough performance it's also quite possible that Sony is trying to ensure that they're specking the requirements for the future not just today I mean they've got clearly a big plan with respect to how they want to leverage the PlayStation 5 storage architecture to enable different gaming experiences the fact that we can't see the problem in a first generation game that doesn't necessarily mean that there's a problem so the bottom line then is I'm absolutely stoked Open Standards like m.2 and competition are better for consumers but that doesn't mean that Sony's approach here was perfect for example Sony specifically says that not all games are necessarily playable from the addin SSD even if you meet the recommended minimum speed of 5,500 megabytes per second it should be noted that the PlayStation 5's internal storage can reach 5.5 GB pers second raw or 8 to 9 GB per second compressed so the question then is how do we make this easier for consumers what I would like to say is that SSD makers should just internally validate their drives for the PlayStation 5 but I think we know how that would turn out what should exist is some kind of industrywide preferably third-party certification for ssds like we have with SD cards where there's some agreed upon performance metric that a drive should have to hit in order to get a certain designation Class A Class B Etc but failing that cuz it's never going to happen Sony should have just certified some drives I mean Mark Cy did post what drive he bought so I guess that's as close as it gets but the good thing about a lack of certification is that it keeps the cost down and in the long term almost any commodity drive off the shelf realistically will manage the speed Sony's requiring but that's the future and that doesn't help Gamers today and even though the requirements have been laid out for us it says 5.5 GB per second at least just because a drive says that on the box that that doesn't actually tell you anything meaningful about that drive's performance characteristics so either Sony is admitting that it doesn't really need to do 5.5 GB per second and we saw that today at least that does appear to be true or they're setting up their users to buy the wrong drive only to realize 8 months down the road when they filled it up and their performance takes a nose dive that they have to run out and buy something else Sony even acknowledges that there could be performance issues when running games off of an addin drive and they say that some drives may be unplayable even if it meets their specifications so at the end of the day at least today it looks like as long as you go for a PCI Express Gen 4 drive you should be okay but because Sony hasn't taken the step to certify addin storage we're not exactly certain where we're going to end up in the future so my recommendation would be check out one of the drives that we've got down below but don't go all the way in in terms of capacity maybe get a one tab get what you need today and then upgrade in the future once there's a little bit more clarity just like we've got a lot of clarity about who our sponsor is thanks to manscape for sponsoring this video manscape provides an all-in-one men's grooming kit that has you covered from head to toe their performance package 4.0 includes all the right tools for whatever 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