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as young PC Builders you will be tempted by Sleek shiny options but you mustn't

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take the easy path is that the magc mini awesome Elijah you didn't even try to

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resist it it's a $600 computer nothing

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even compares to this and while thousands took to the

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online streets to rip into Apple's outrageous storage pricing it doesn't

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change the fact that for the base model M4 Mac Mini he's right if all you want

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to do is email and video conferencing some light professional work even some

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casual gaming $600 seems like an outright steel for this new machine I

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mean heck i' probably recommend it to a friend who just needed a decent computer

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at a fair price so has Apple built the

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best system for the 99% to find out

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we're going to drag race it against both a $600 Mini PC and Tower desktop PC

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while also discussing some of the pros and cons that you might gloss over if

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description let's meet our three computers for malice standing at a

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height of 2 in and featuring 10 CPU and

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10 GPU cords the Mac Mini will it be

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held back by its lack of storage or will its unified memory deliver a knockout

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blow for team PC standing at 2 in tall

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the minoram Venus and towering over the

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rest at 15 in the cbble together desktop

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Tower this machine sure takes up a lot of room but it's dedicated card means

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that when it comes to gaming it means

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business there is of course a lot more to know about each system so here it is

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but those are just details for now what matters is that at the time of ordering

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each of these machines came in under $600 before taxes and shipping which

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brings us then without further Ado to Benchmark number one cinebench in both

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single and multicore flavors and go here

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we go

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oh God this is not going to be close dude

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wow wait it might be a little close oh this is spinning

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up oh it is starting to slow down but

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it's still it's not slowing down much wait wow this pass it wait what

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that's very surprising I I am also

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surprised what's in here huh that's not

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even current gen ryzen if you remember as well this is normally $150 over our

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$600 budget but it was on sale I like

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sales so it's kind of you know being a

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little bit of a cheater here by joining the lower weight class anyway while

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these run let's talk about Apple's new M4 silicon compared to last year's M3

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Apple's added two more efficiency cores they have more than doubled the number

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of operations that their neural engine can complete per second and they have

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increased the memory bandwidth of their already f F unified memory by 20%

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perhaps most importantly though compared to their most recent Mac Mini which had

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an M2 processor and even compared to their other M3 devices Apple has doubled

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the memory capacity of the base configuration from just 8 GB to 16 now I

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have no doubt that the most tab hungry of you could easily make use of more but

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we've at least reached the point where I'm not uncomfortable recommending a

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base configuration so good job app

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and good job on the processor itself we'll talk about performance in a second

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but first I want to talk about Energy Efficiency look at this thing here's all

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three machines running the same load except the M4 is using a fraction of the

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power of the other two for a desktop obviously this level of efficiency

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matters less than it does in a phone or a thin and light laptop but less power

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consumption means less heat output and quieter operation you can see even even

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when it's running a test does it even have a

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fan oh yeah it does wow is it ever quiet

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though and enough fawning though let's take a look at the performance and wow

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the desktop and the Mac Mini are shockingly close in multicore but what's

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really surprising to me is how far out ahead that mini Forum pulls two extra

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performance cores goes a long way for the multi-core but does that hold up for

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single core let's see three two

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one and now we wait a

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while I mean technically we don't have the final result but we have enough of

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it where the M4 really excels is

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single-threaded performance which is one of the things that contributes to Apple

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silicon machines feeling so responsive and snappy even the first generation

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ones which seems to have become a bit of a drag on Apple sales you talk to an M1

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Mac owner and they're like upgrade why who needs to upgrade wait

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there's one right now I have two M1 Mac

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Air M1 and Max studio M1 Max what's the

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reason for oper let's move on to our next test here we're going to Target the

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GPU using blender to render the classroom test scene and go go okay what

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are we expecting oh dedicated GPU turns

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out having one of those that's a thing

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but an outstanding integrated GPU it's

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doing much better than this one that's a thing too uh yeah he was

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invited oh wait is that Frozen uh oh no

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there it goes a minute yeah okay that's about 12 seconds slower than our Tower

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PC but a lot faster than this is this

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even done yet uh no it has quite a ways to go good Lord now In fairness 3050 not

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exactly the most impressive GPU to be

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almost on par with but when we consider that this is on board it's pretty darn

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impressive however custom form factor machines like this are giving up a lot

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in terms of upgradeability in the long term which makes them a pretty

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questionable value if GPU performance is a priority not just today but in the

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future because this 3050 we can get rid of it throw something

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else in there and we're going to be even faster all right movie Magic cut final

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score just under four minutes wow the

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Mac Mini is just a quarter the time and

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you've got to give it credit it's just so cute which like it or not is a

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significant factor for some people when they're choosing a computer now before

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we get to gaming let's take a look at a large language model specifically llama

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how about we have them each write 10 high cus about our Tech bro vest now

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available on LTT Store.com I was the medium labeled Elijah no offense but I

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don't think so bro what you're taller than me and wider I don't think I'm an

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XL though I give you an XL yeah wow you

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really do look like budget s bman freed now screw

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off ready go this is the same test we

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used back in our 50 versus $50,000 computer video and while I don't expect

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as big of a difference on these three machines today it is an opportunity for

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us to talk about one of Apple's biggest advantages if there happens to be an AI

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workload that utilizes GPU memory the typical wisdom has been sure no problem

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just slap some high-capacity gpus like a Quadro into your system but with Apple's

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unified memory the sfc is able to dynamically adjust how much RAM each

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section has access to whether it's the CPU the GPU or in this case Apple's

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neural Eng Faded Glory worn my love for Tech still

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shines through all vest is my heart Tech bro flare that won't be beat are you

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rolling on this this is freaking ridiculous look the quality is not what

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we're using to evaluate them here because they're all using the same model

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so theoretically they should be about the same what we're interested in is the

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speed and if you guys were looking over my shoulder you'll have seen that the M4

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absolutely destroyed the others so

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unless you're a Data Center and you need need the absolute best in AI performance

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and you're willing to spend millions of dollars to get it one of these with a

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little RAM upgrade might be the better choice for you although RAM upgrades on

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this are a pretty big room elephant yes

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my friends we saw the Reddit post that you could buy two base model Mac minis

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for the price of one that has twice as much RAM and storage in it apple is

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still pricing their storage at the literal weight of gold old which is an

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awful value another sore spot for some is the power button which is not only

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now on the bottom of the machine but at the back of the bottom with those two

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things aside though there's no denying that the machine we're reviewing which

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is the base model absolutely kicks but

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for the price but does it hold up in gaming while Apple silicon has the raw

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grunt to put up decent gaming performance numbers compatibility

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continues to be a struggle now of course most Mac users aren't going to expect to

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play the latest tripa game so we're just using shadow of the Tomb Raider as a

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tool to measure the performance of the GPU in a different way and also to enjoy

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the onboard speaker that actually sounds

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a lot better than not having a speaker at all it's not a fair okay that's fair I

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guess what it what it is yeah oh wow

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what's also not fair is having a dedicated GPU apparently dude this poor thing

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yeah even this one though it's it started before let it let Tim

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Cook hey

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huh of course the Mac couldn't hold a candle to our mid Tower PC but In

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fairness to it it held up quite well against a last generation AMD onboard

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GPU and I know some of you are going to say well AMD has newer ones and like

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that's nice but we're looking at Price comparables here

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not generation comparables so what's our conclusion

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then mid Tower PC wins I don't think it's that simple no

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it really isn't is it I mean on the one hand uh good job with the high FPS there

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buddy but on the other hand there's a lot more to life than gaming and our M4

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mini excels in areas that our custom PC Falls flat in now if you're the average

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LTT viewer the size relatively High

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noise and power consumption and the inconvenience of digging through PC part

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picker for the best deals and then assembling everything that's all part of

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the fun rather than a burden and totally worth it for the upgradeability and

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customizability of a machine like this but if your mom phones you up and she

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wants help troubleshooting this thing wouldn't you rather just send her to Tim

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Apple's house for help and I didn't even mention it has a headphone jack and

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Thunderbolt this thing is sick now the upgraded configs suck and apple really

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needs to give their Collective heads a shake but this base model for $600 is

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every bit as good as it seems on paper if someone you know wants a computer on

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a budget ask them what it's for and if you don't hear gaming I think that the

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mini PCS take the Victory and if that user happens to already own an ie device

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the Mac Mini gets a pretty big boost the workflow of like airdropping and using

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