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all right well that took a lot longer to get going than I was hoping we're having

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some internet difficulties over here uh

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the funny thing about it is that we've actually got two isps here one of which

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is our fiber connection and the other of which is our um our cable connection and

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the cable connection we were having an issue with those guys where they they

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actually turned us off for about a month because we were going over our bandwidth

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allotment and they were supposed to turn us off for a weekend yeah it was

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supposed to be for a weekend and then they just didn't so whatever that's cool

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I guess and then the fiber connection uh is just not sending any UDP packets

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right now so it's TCP only which means

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like very little Skype yeah not not a

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whole lot we can do on that one so we're we're like trying to find a solution

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here oh right right right so when our cable provider turned the internet back

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back on the issue that we had with them is that they haven't put us in bridge

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mode so it's our our modems acting as a

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router but then it's not because our switch here isn't working and the

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wireless on it isn't on and I have no idea what the username and password is

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to log into it and then like I was like okay well maybe they maybe it's in

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bridge mode now so I plugged in a router and then whatever so long story short

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we're live now thank you guys for tuning in to the W show we've got a bunch of

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great topics for you today I hope I have actually done very little of my usual

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due diligence so Luke will be in charge of making sure that the show isn't a

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total waste of everyone's time best part about that is that I did very little of

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my usual due diligence in our defense he

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was sick this

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week

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I it's a holiday yeah it's a holiday

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today it's a stat neither of us are getting paid for this yeah I shouldn't

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be here at all so nope bam there you go

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uh what Wi-Fi oh right right justifications we have to tether we have

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to tether to get Wii can't you just you should just be able to yeah should have

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would have could have not working yeah

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it's like why is life so difficult I just want to make it really clear that

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it is not the fault of our sponsor ASUS

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that our network is not working laptops are fine the laptops are good in fact

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our review of this particular laptop is coming out very soon and I think you

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guys will be quite impressed with the performance that we were able to get out

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of a portable device um but in the meantime we're just

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going to have to actually do a show for you here guys so I am waiting for the

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document to load up so that I can there it

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goes so that I can tell you what we're going to talk about um so the NSA has

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reportedly been using a heart bleed for

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years shock and awe um yeah we could be

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looking at 10g Wi-Fi which is pretty darn impressive

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so quantenna has announced an eight stream configuration that could be

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capable of some absolutely crazy throughput and could be coming as soon

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as 2015 uh what else we got Intel is

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apparently losing billions on tablets and smart phones so that's worrisome

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yeah or not I'm actually going to play a little bit of Devil's Advocate on that

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topic later and NVIDIA has released their most epic lineup of new graphics

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cards ever more on that later on in the show super performan

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super intro they probably have speed holes

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there is no sound in this intro none I will kill him that is two weeks in a

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row I don't know the music

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but we'll sing along anyways I had to do this last week too this is terrible look

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lineus Tech tips there's a there's a thing there oh hey Squarespace there's a

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notebook right here the funny thing to me about this sponsorship is that this

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isn't really the way I would recommend using this particular notebook this is

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this isn't really what it's for we're going to talk a little bit more about

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what it's for in the upcoming review um and also later on when I do my sponsor

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spot forus here because it's really good

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at certain stuff in fact I think you were pretty surprised we been and I don't know how

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much are we are we talking about the video like what we did in the video I

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don't know that's like I almost just said it and then I was like wait I don't

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know why why don't we talk about the video later okay okay oh we have a guest

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today we haven't actually had a guest in a while so it'll be Jerry Barnacles Berg

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will be joining us in a little while here we're going to call him on um the

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telephone but first why don't we go through one of our topics here so oh my

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goodness I don't have my

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uh HDMI look guys it's a

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holiday I should be off today yeah he

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should be off today yeah what we're doing is illegal is it

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I'm not sure I'm not paying you it's a holiday we could argue that no I think

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it's technically slavery even if it's of your own valtion that you're here no

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matter and Canada I don't know if that's the same everywhere else well I I

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legitimately told him not to come in today and that it was fine and I would

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do the show by myself I didn't want to miss two weeks in a row and he knows I'm

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not capable of doing it by myself he knows that I would have had to have uh

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jonfer here joner join me I can never remember I was going to say does his

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name change every time well I can I can

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never remember what I call him we could just call him Slender Man if you want

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that's that's yeah he honestly looks like Slender Man Okay so jonfer here um

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I I I think he fig Luke figured that J my shirt on I can't even get it off he's

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gunning for your shirt and your job I I like I tried for a little while and was

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like I'm either going to break him or I'm going to leave the shirt on and if

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Luke didn't join me on the show I was going to have to have a co-host so that

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was going to be pretty uncomfortable for uh you know Mr soon to be unemployed

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over there so there you there you go right um have I even managed to

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introduce our topics for today you did some of them did I do some of them yep

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oh fantastic you started to did I start to oh no I did the whole thing I even

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did the intro already I know we did the intro already I just didn't know if you

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did all I didn't know if you actually did four topics the best part is that

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you did different topics than I announced in the in the YouTube

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announcement which know what they were oh is it up we should see if it's up

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public so it should be up in theory it's up but who knows yeah it's up all right

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cool and there's like 2,000 people watching thank you guys for tuning in on

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Good Friday hi everyone did you just say bye everyone said hi everyone Hi

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everyone that's good you know what it's funny we are both wearing other than

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lonus Tech tip shirts the most appropriate possible shirts today yeah

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cuz we're streaming on Twitch and our sponsor for today's show is Squarespace

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you know why I'm actually wearing this shirt and it's a really good thing

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because it's comfy isn't it people think that more on that more on that in a

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moment people think that I plan out my like sponsor segments like really well

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and I'm some kind of a professional but

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like well you're technically a professional today could have just as easily been a Dollar Shave Club

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integration and like I didn't shave you

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know did I but today it happened to be a

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Squarespace integration and I happened to wear this for pajamas last night and

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I haven't actually changed

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yet so yes I'm wearing

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holidays I'm wearing it because it's comfortable and and I'm still wearing it

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because it's still comfortable and doesn't quite smell bad enough yet nice

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nice that's always a good benefit that is what it is all about my friend I'm

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trying to get the twitch chat so I can see them but then it was like I'm not

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going to load anything CU you don't have flash player installed and I'm like you can technically still load the chat and

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it didn't so that sucked Max Key frame

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interval is currently at 4 seconds please set it to two

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seconds thank you maybe we should do an

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actual topic let's do one topic and then let's bring on Jerry right so this was

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originally posted on the Forum by top war gamer I'm going to go ahead and hope

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that my screen sharing is working here

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oh okay I have some something playing in the background here I have no oh oh it's

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a yeah there we go oh turn off the twitch stream because you're on my phone

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I paused it did you I just wanted this all right good enough okay because I was

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worried about the phone I will settle for that um okay so posted by top war

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gamer Microsoft wait what this isn't the right topic is

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it what the what the broken

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link what oh why did it open over there you guys

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can see this right I just opened a new tab I opened a new tab in this Internet

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Explorer man like what's your problem okay why are you using Internet Explorer

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because you have no reason I want to give Microsoft a chance to impress me

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they have ads about how Internet Explorer is not that bad anymore is that

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actually their thing I think I think they did something like that like it's

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or like like the campaign was like it's better than I expected or something like

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that um I I don't it's so bad you know I

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found one use for it okay so hold on hold on guys watch this watch this I'mma

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click this thing and it opens up a tab

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like over here not not at the end not at the end not right beside what he's doing

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beside it but like here is that because it's categorizing

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them no CU there's because there's Tech tips tab here yeah like I could there is

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no justifiable reason for it to do that

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anyway so top war gamer posted it the original article is from The Verge I'm

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just going to go ahead and put this back and that is that the heart bleed exploit

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has been in use by the NSA for years

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what's up oh we got we got we got okay okay I

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think our Our Guest today Barac is gonna have something to say about how great

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Internet Explorer is he's he's filling our document with propaganda about how

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Internet Explorer is good so anyway Bloomberg reports that the hartle bug

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has been known and exploited by the NSA for at least two wait two

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weeks I think that's a typo I thought that was supposed to be two years yeah I

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think it was I think it was two years let's go let's go ahead and uh let's go

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ahead and double check that do you want to go through the rest of be wrong but

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yeah uh so according to Anonymous sources the bug was Kept Secret in the

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interest of National Security good job guys we hate you um the agency was used

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using it to obtain passwords and other data um it gave them access to two3 of the

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web servers that are out there right now um the NSA has denied the allegations

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but honestly who believes any of the crap they say lately anyways so who the

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hell knows the White House has also denied the allegations which good for

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you also no one is really listening to you either so yeah so there you go uh

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and yes two years not two weeks that was a that was a typo in the old uh the old

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dock there all right so let's bring on jar to uh to go ahead and try to justify

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the existence of Internet Explorer to us here have we just done this topic

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already we're just done that topic we're the the the topic is thank you NSA we

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appreciate your business all right and

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thank you Barnacles we appreciate your business as well tell us how fantastic

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Internet Explorer is Internet Explorer is pretty fantastic guys that's why I'm

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using Chrome right

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now are you wearing a Microsoft shirt by any chance what's that are you wearing a

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Microsoft shirt by any chance no I'm not no this is been an epic sponsor combo no

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I probably have a Microsoft cup around here somewhere though I got this twitch

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shirt by fanboying out at their booth at PA Prime like they didn't even know who

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I was they just gave me a shirt cuz I took a picture really yeah nice I was

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like I stream my new thing all the time but whatever I love your I love your

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shirt Barnacles just saying oh thank You Adventure Time Is Awesome it's always an

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adventure you know people say it's a stoner show

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but do you agree with that it is it absolutely is because

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every time I watch it I'm like I I don't understand anything like at all what's

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going on I'm just like man if I was high it understand it we can watch it not

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stoned but that doesn't mean that it's not catering to St people because I

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guarantee you you're not understanding what's going on though are

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you actually I I okay maybe maybe I'm

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maybe I'm just I can generally follow it to

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yeah maybe I'm just an idiot but I can mostly maybe it's because we're not

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stoned maybe yeah maybe that's the

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problem what came first I'm not saying anything what came first the Stoners not

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understanding the show or the show becoming incomprehensible to

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stoners it's like wait a second yeah

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hold on you guys are breaking up a little bit sorry about that let me think about that must be my awesome Al Gore

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internet yeah you know how it is I oh our internet is like pretty pretty

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fantastic over here too so yeah we're using a phone yeah we're using a phone

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for our laptops hello

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Internet all right so why don't we get into actually this is going to be a

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great topic to talk to you about um because it's it's one of the more

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cryptic things that I think I've seen out of Microsoft in the last little

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while here is our stream still called PAX East Sunday recap what the hell

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that's probably why hey can you can you guys call me back really quick screwed

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up a Skype really bad it's like I can't it just sounds like it's all

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jumbled that's

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terrible oh all the

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terrible oh I hate this

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show I hate this show wait what's going

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on here there we go okay okay uh here do

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you want to talk to him okay so in the meantime I'm going to change our stream

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name and then bring up our next top iPic here so what was I what was I what was I

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oh right the WAN Show so Fridays at

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1630 Pacific yeah okay so let's go ahead

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and update that I swear I did that earlier so this is one of the weirder

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things that we've seen out of Microsoft in the last little while here can I just

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uh I just oh hello hello do this hold on

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let's let's bring you back there there we go so I'm just gonna I'm going to

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screen share with myself here this is posted on the Forum by Good Bites

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Microsoft has revealed a quote unquote hidden feature in the Windows 8.1 update

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one which will allow the system to be installed on a system which will allow

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the OS to be installed on a system with a 16 gig SSD and still have free space

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for your programs reports bit tech.net

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so allegedly the way that they're achieving this is by instead of having

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some parts of the OS compressed and some un compressed it's an uncompressed and

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compressed yeah sorry sorry instead of having the whole OS uncompressed they're

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leaving the the super critical parts uncompressed and then they're actually

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having a bunch of it still be compressed with a pointer file that shows it where

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to go now there are some limitations so you are not allowed to install it on a

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spinning drive for example you must be running a UEFI based PC running in UEFI

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mode you let's hold on a second drive only additional oh additional Drive that

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are installed can be mechanical so it's just the boot drive and it applies to

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client editions of Windows 8.1 there are also some backup antivirus and

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encryption tools that aren't compatible with wiim boot images um they claim that

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there won't be a performance

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Delta how uh there's probably there's probably going to be a little bit of a

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performance hit I mean there' have to be anytime compressions involved there's

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going to be a little bit of a hit but it'll probably be negligible really so if it's negligible

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like this is a legitimate question if it's negligible why do we bother on

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compressing anything in the first place because sometimes negligible

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pisses people off like Benchmark junkies and people that are like really into

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benchmarking stuff like that you know if if you're if you want to squeeze every

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ounce of power out of your computer you don't want you don't want anything like bringing it down that's why people are

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like so hardcore about overclocking their gpus and stuff like that I mean

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for the average user yeah I don't see the problem with it I think everybody should compress it and to be honest ntf

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F has supported that forever you can actually go into your NTS volume and enable compression across the whole

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volume and reclaim a ton of disc space but how often do you hear of people

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using that feature you just really don't have you spent any time with that

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feature to see what kind of a performance impact we're looking at uh

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on the NTFS compression yes on the wiim

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boot stuff no I haven't done any any testing on it okay so NTFS compression

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like like what are we dealing with because I mean there's two ways of looking at this so sand Force SSD is

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aside the ones that are already compressing the data you're writing to

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them and then uncompressing them on the fly but if you take a drive that

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performs really really well without Hardware compression so something like

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um an Intel 730 series or something like an 840 Pro could we be looking at a

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whole new world of performance if you have the CPU resources such that the

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compression and uncompression isn't going to slow anything down and you are

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effectively making better use of the speed of your drive oh absolutely no no

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you're absolutely right I mean if the physical data is compressed and you don't have to move as much physical data

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between the actual bus from the drive to the CPU for instance then the CPU is

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your limiting factor because it's basically decompressing the data there and since compression most of the old

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Legacy compression algorithms are really really fast now like they used to kill

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the old CPUs but like the light compression the NTFS uses and stuff like

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that i' I'd be really surprised if you saw a huge IO performance hit the

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biggest problem with compression that I see is that depending on the type of data that you're compressing the

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performance can vary so so you know if if you're do if you're heavily

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compressing things like text and stuff like that the decompression and compression algorithm used to compress

00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:09.480
that data it can the performance can change it's on it's on a little bit of a

00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:12.440
curve so compressing 100 megabytes of one type of data versus compressing and

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decompressing 100 megabytes of a different type of data depending on the data and how compressible it is that's

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going to affect performance so you don't really get a linear performance it's

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more of all over the place right this ties into what you were talking about

00:19:22.159 --> 00:19:27.360
where you referenced that it's only the really important stuff that's compressed

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it's the whole thing it's just Windows updates and stuff after that isn't put

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in the wiim boot section right right and even though it's compressed it's it's

00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:38.240
it's like it's still all in the whim file it's just part the files partially

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compressed which I guess is kind of a New Concept because I've never heard of anything else being partially compressed

00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:47.360
usually a file is compressed or it's not right so it's it's it's a little bit

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weird to see the partial compression but the idea of being able to reclaim so

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much of that space on a device where it comes at a premium you know where you

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have you know solid state media on a tablet or a phone I mean that's a big deal right but then I mean

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okay so something like a tablet then I wonder how much you're going to give up

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in terms of processing in terms of uh in

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terms of processing resources to battery

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then so if you're that was very poorly phrased but the point is if you are if

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you're using your CPU more as opposed to your storage more right are you going to

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be giving up some battery life anytime you're doing something IO intensive then

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you know that that's an interesting question because you're actually saving some battery life by not having to

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access the med is frequently and you're kind of trading it off for the CPU but

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the yeah CPU generally I think you would

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take a little bit of a battery hit on it but it also depends there's other factors in there like caching right I'm

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sure that if they're using compression on those fil they're also aggressively

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caching things in and out of memory and if they're doing aggressive caching and

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things like that especially on system level files they're not going to be loading them very often they're going to

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be loading them once caching them and then pulling from memory so the decompression is going to be happening

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every single time you access every one of these files I'm sure they're being very smart about which files

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need to be loaded once and access thousands of times versus files that do

00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:08.159
literally have to be loaded each and every time due to their D Dynamic nature

00:21:05.280 --> 00:21:12.400
or something like that right but yeah as far as battery life I again I'm G to say

00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:17.039
probably going to be negligible because compression algorithms aren't going to be that se they're not it's not going to

00:21:15.320 --> 00:21:20.840
be super high compression and it's not going to be high compression and encryption which usually it's the

00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:24.640
encryption side of compression that really really kills it so I I don't

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think you're really going to see a huge impact but as far as no impact no it's

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anytime anytime you're doing compression you're going to have some kind of an impact on the CPU's performance the

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partial compression thing is weird throughout reading the entire article I I didn't actually see anything about

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that I just saw that there was the recovery partition that stays compressed and then all updates and future stuff

00:21:40.320 --> 00:21:44.960
after that goes in the completely uncompressed Windows partition so that's

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I'm going to have to read more about that that's interesting yeah no I I like

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and I like the idea of how they're masking it at the file system level too I mean to to the user the file system is

00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:57.799
going to look exactly the same you're not you're not going to notice any difference the filter driver will take

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care of it all magically behind the scenes um but as far as needing to update

00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:07.640
things into the whim that's a little bit interesting because of course you're not just reading things out of the whim I'd

00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:13.200
imagine the whim needs to be updated at some point also no they're saying that I

00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:16.919
I read on the on Microsoft's actual documentation that updates go into the

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Windows predition not into whim oh okay so so the whim stays the base image no

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:25.480
matter what yeah that's why I'm saying I didn't I didn't read anything about partial compression because they have

00:22:22.320 --> 00:22:27.400
the compressed what used to be recovery

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uh image which is now your whim image and then that never changes and any

00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:34.679
updates or service packs or whatever the heck you get after that go in your

00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:37.240
Windows partition uncompressed and the wiim partition never changes never gets

00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:41.159
touched so you can still use it as recovery later on down the line no that that makes that makes a hell of a lot of

00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:45.760
sense actually because that also prevents you from ever causing any fragmentation on the file so they can

00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:49.000
literally optimize how those files are laid out in that whim to make them as

00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:52.279
quickly as accessible as possible so which is kind of awesome and like you

00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:56.520
can if you're trying to do it on like an Enterprise level or whatever you can

00:22:54.320 --> 00:23:00.600
inject things into it on your own so you can inject updates and stuff into win

00:22:58.320 --> 00:23:05.240
before you deploy it yeah but once it's deployed all updates and everything from

00:23:02.679 --> 00:23:08.720
that point onward will then go into your uncompressed Windows predition no that's

00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:14.679
actually that's really cool I'm sure this is also going to have like a high impact on VM deployments and stuff like

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.799
that I I like the idea of just having a whim and just basically just deploying

00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:21.000
the whim as a VM and not having to deal with all the you know all all of the

00:23:19.320 --> 00:23:23.440
crate creating partitions decompressing the whim onto the drive all that stuff

00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:28.120
you don't have to do any of it it's your install times are nothing exactly right

00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:32.720
right now it doesn't work for applications are VM it's just kind of

00:23:29.760 --> 00:23:36.039
cons1 client only but but it'll it'll this is the beginning right so yeah it

00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:40.320
always is right I mean it'll it'll happen it makes it makes sense it fits

00:23:37.760 --> 00:23:46.000
the bill it almost feels like this is actually made like for

00:23:43.159 --> 00:23:49.320
VMS yeah it's it's I mean it's really cool the the the coolest thing about it

00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:53.480
isn't necessarily that they're just holding everything in the wiim but I just like the idea that the filter

00:23:51.919 --> 00:23:57.760
driers is taking all of the guesswork out of it so the average user they're not going to know what's going on they

00:23:55.760 --> 00:24:00.559
just reclaimed a whole bunch of space right right and I think honestly that's

00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:04.000
the most important thing especially when you're dealing with the client side with the Enterprise side not so much but when

00:24:02.919 --> 00:24:08.679
you're dealing with the client side and people that are buying tablets they just want their space they you know even if

00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:13.400
they can reclaim four gigabytes to put another movie on it I mean that might be the difference between not buying and

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:17.520
buying that device so I I think that's really cool I mean I gota I can't help

00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:25.760
but feel a little bit like this is something Microsoft shouldn't have even really had to do I mean you look at how

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:28.520
much um smartphone capacity has evolved

00:24:25.760 --> 00:24:33.960
in the last four years I when the iPhone 4 came out it was available in 16 32 and

00:24:31.520 --> 00:24:41.159
64 gig capacities yes what's what's the 5S available

00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:44.159
in I think they have 128 gig don't they

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they may have a 128 gig but really

00:24:44.159 --> 00:24:49.000
you're going to try and convince me that flash densities haven't at least more

00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:52.399
than doubled and with the way that pricing is structured it's really not

00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:58.320
that much cheaper and they make you pay an awful lot more for a little bit more storage and I think that's why a lot of

00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:01.279
people end up with 16 gig smartphones or

00:24:58.320 --> 00:25:06.159
16 gigs still when really do they have to is it really that much of the bill of

00:25:03.360 --> 00:25:09.880
materials or could you just or or I mean looking at what's happened to ssds over

00:25:07.919 --> 00:25:14.960
the last four years in terms of pricing couldn't you just be delivering us 64

00:25:12.360 --> 00:25:20.000
gigs minimum as a smartphone capacity with capacities up to you know 128 or

00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:21.960
even 256 apparently is no I I I agree

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:24.919
that spa space is getting cheaper it's it's absolutely getting cheaper it's

00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.799
getting smaller it's getting faster so does reclaiming you know a couple of

00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.880
gigabytes really make a difference in the grand scheme of things not not at

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:34.720
the higher end of the spectrum not if you're talking like you know 64 128 256

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:38.840
gig devices all the way up to gez they got like terabyte ssds now right that

00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:41.399
are affordable um but the thing is you have to think a little bit more globally

00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:46.840
too when you're competing in a market where you want to create mobile devices that are 100 $200 you know and you

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:52.440
really want to hit that low low price point yep stuff like the Moto G exactly

00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:55.520
you can buy 16 Gigabyte you know ssds for pennies you know on the dollar

00:25:54.320 --> 00:26:00.000
they're almost irrelevant now because people just don't use them but if you can put those into device

00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:04.120
and drive the price down to a point where you know somebody that couldn't otherwise afford a tablet or a mobile

00:26:02.679 --> 00:26:08.679
device now can that's their price of Entry I mean I think I think that's

00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:11.600
still a very very Noble thing yeah um to to go after but yeah at the high end I

00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:15.960
mean is this is this going to be something that we're going to be using if we have like we know one terab hard

00:26:14.360 --> 00:26:18.640
drives on our desktop computers no not really I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't take

00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:23.679
the performance hit for it I would rather pay for it in space just because it's cheaper in this application but

00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:26.679
when you're talking a smartphone or a small tablet or something like that then

00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:31.360
yeah I think it's beneficial in the long run because one thing you're not going to be using those devices for super high

00:26:29.320 --> 00:26:34.559
performance applications so the slight performance hit you take in you know in

00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:38.159
decompressing the data I don't think it's going to be a really big deal to you because you're going to be using

00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:40.679
stuff like office checking your email Facebook and watching movies things like

00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:45.240
that you're not going to be like you know editing and rendering and doing 3D

00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:50.000
stuff and you know hosting your web you know your web server on your tablet at

00:26:47.080 --> 00:26:55.399
least I don't but so speaking of you would try speaking of office I finally

00:26:52.360 --> 00:26:58.159
picked up an Office 365 subscription so

00:26:55.399 --> 00:27:04.840
I'm I'm I'm part of I'm I'm part of the the fold now I'm just so sick

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:06.240
of everything not being not being like

00:27:04.840 --> 00:27:11.080
synced and everywhere and all that kind of stuff and honestly I got to tell you

00:27:08.399 --> 00:27:18.000
the setup process for Office 365 is terrible I mean oh really that whole

00:27:14.159 --> 00:27:22.279
ridiculous thing where it's my name aty

00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:24.760
domain. onmicrosoft.com until I go

00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:29.919
through my domain registar to confirm that I own the domain and then I can

00:27:26.679 --> 00:27:31.919
switch it and then all of the like the

00:27:29.919 --> 00:27:38.120
way that the sort of synced everywhere file thing works except that sometimes

00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:40.679
it's my like consumer Sky Drive and

00:27:38.120 --> 00:27:46.720
sometimes it's like my other one and sometimes it's and the number of Clicks

00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:48.360
in Office 2013 to save to the local

00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:53.240
Drive is ridiculous you click save and instead of

00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:57.840
just being a local browsing dialogue it's like where would you like to save

00:27:55.240 --> 00:28:03.039
blah blah blah cloud cloud some other thing and then local and well local and

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:08.760
then it's like where local here's some recent places

00:28:04.760 --> 00:28:10.760
no just let me browse the dialog simmer

00:28:08.760 --> 00:28:14.480
down you need to simmer down Canadia all right take it down you're actually one

00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:18.760
of the first people I've heard really complain about it a lot of people I've heard really love it and they they even

00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:23.880
love like the experience on other platforms like iOS The Office 365 apps

00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:31.000
on iOS are like amazing I haven't tried the iOS one yet but but why would you

00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:35.960
my iPhone I haven't even seen it yet my new iPhone 5 that I actually see it's

00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:39.840
like not even quite fired up yet is in my pocket I'm going to be doing an I

00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:45.559
switched back I've been on Android for a year so I'm going to take a crack at it

00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:48.640
and I'm going to uh see if Android can

00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.679
can hold me and uh see see what I end up

00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:55.039
going back to so I'm going to try and switch to it for about a month so we'll we'll see we'll see well I've used I I

00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:59.200
mean I've used everything that's one thing a lot of people are like oh yeah you work for Microsoft your Microsoft

00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:05.240
Fanboy it's like well no I have everything I have I have you know an iPhone 5S that I use on a daily basis I

00:29:02.919 --> 00:29:09.080
have a Lumia 1520 I've got two you know Nexus 7 tablets the first and the second

00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:14.159
generation it's because I like certain things that they all have to offer but the biggest ailles heal with Android

00:29:11.760 --> 00:29:17.399
always with me is is not all the apps work on all the devices you get this

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.880
really weird experience where you go into the marketplace and it's like at the beginning of the description of

00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:26.279
everything is it's like oh known problems on these 15 devices and you're like oh my God it's like I like a

00:29:24.919 --> 00:29:31.240
platform where it's like I'm pretty much guaranteed to be able to download and use everything I don't to go oh damn it

00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:34.519
I bought that Samsung you know whatever S5 or whatever and now I can't run these

00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:39.399
five apps because my screen resolution is too high in the developer didn't fix it you know that's the part that annoys

00:29:38.159 --> 00:29:44.600
me is it's almost like the thing that makes Android really good also makes it

00:29:41.679 --> 00:29:48.919
really bad yeah yeah like I I've had so much I love Light Flow I love the idea

00:29:46.679 --> 00:29:54.279
of it when I did my Nexus 5 review it was amazing just like I I can't get it

00:29:51.919 --> 00:29:59.159
working flawlessly on anything else and it drives me crazy because it's like a

00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:00.799
really fantastic Light Flow Light Flow

00:29:59.159 --> 00:30:04.200
yeah no there's some really cool there's some really cool apps on Android that I

00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:07.120
found but I just I remember back and it's gotten a lot better now but I

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:11.240
remember back when I bought uh gosh which was it like Motorola made a made a

00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:13.679
little Android tablet was it Motorola God I can't even remember it was so long

00:30:12.320 --> 00:30:16.480
ago I bought it Best Buy it was like brand new tablet high resolution I

00:30:15.399 --> 00:30:20.080
brought it home and seriously I downloaded like 30 apps and of the 30

00:30:18.399 --> 00:30:23.960
like two of them worked right on it yeah because all of them were like designed for phones all of them were designed for

00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:28.240
different resolutions some of them just didn't work well with the new capacitive

00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:32.480
touch that they were using crashed left and right and I couldn't triage or debug

00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:36.880
any of it mainly it's better now yeah it's a it's a lot better now I

00:30:33.679 --> 00:30:40.279
definitely a lot better now like I use a

00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.000
my G2 when I did um and I would blindly

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.760
download applications without checking if it worked or not never had a single

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:50.200
problem um never had a problem with my Nexus S never had a problem with my S3

00:30:48.600 --> 00:30:55.320
and I'm not having a problem with the Tegra Note right now Luke never never

00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:59.600
like really never I've never had a problem with application compatibility

00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:05.279
okay but then hold on a second cuz he came from a Nexus device to an S3 I I

00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:09.919
named my devices yeah I did use fairly mainstream devices that's very true so

00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.960
the I didn't use like the uh Motorola tablet or anything like that I was using

00:31:11.320 --> 00:31:18.960
an Nexus device and I was using a Samsung device then I was using a flagship LG device so it's it's like

00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:25.279
yeah so you weren't using like the $16 like what is it like

00:31:22.080 --> 00:31:27.679
knw so yeah cuz I've had all kinds of

00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:31.200
problems with like offbrand Android where like nothing works on them we we

00:31:29.399 --> 00:31:34.760
were just talking about you know lowend storage on the mobile devices and it

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.960
just reminded me that I've seen some of these uh some of these Chinese

00:31:36.120 --> 00:31:43.200
electronic sites online that are selling Android devices like actual functioning

00:31:40.760 --> 00:31:46.559
phones running Android on them for like 2530 yeah and they've got like eight

00:31:45.120 --> 00:31:51.000
gigs of storage you know like four or eight gigs of storage in them and so it

00:31:49.639 --> 00:31:53.919
it still goes back to I guess there is a market for that obviously somewhere in

00:31:52.760 --> 00:31:58.480
the world there's a market for these incredibly incredibly cheap

00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:03.840
devices yeah that's actually uh it's not on our list of topics for today but um

00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:07.919
when when the whole Project Ara thing was coming around and you know the

00:32:06.159 --> 00:32:11.919
enthusiasts were getting really excited about it and I guess what well really it

00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:16.440
was more when it was called phone blocks when it was still that campaign um one

00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:21.720
of the conversations that we had on the show was like look enthusiasts calm calm

00:32:19.399 --> 00:32:26.519
your boobies because this isn't for you and now that some pricing rumors are

00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.760
starting to surface and Project Ara is

00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:34.639
rumored to be what like in the 2535 range for an entry LEL device I

00:32:32.600 --> 00:32:38.360
think that that's a very good point is that there is definitely a market for

00:32:36.159 --> 00:32:41.639
this I thought it was 50 bucks 50 bucks okay I could be wrong but it's like it's

00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:44.799
still really cheap yeah like it's going to be a very very entry-level device and

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:51.320
there's definitely still a market for this and I think that in the next sort

00:32:47.120 --> 00:32:54.600
of few years this whole like high-end

00:32:51.320 --> 00:32:57.240
phone thing is going to mostly go away

00:32:54.600 --> 00:33:01.480
just like you can't buy a highend cordless home phone anymore like have

00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:05.679
you noticed that yeah no I have I have I I shop at Costco like religiously and

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:09.320
for years I'd go to Costco and there'd be at least five or six different really

00:33:07.639 --> 00:33:12.679
really high-end like unit in phones like you know I've got my my VTEC over here

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:17.080
you know this was considered high-end back in the day right yeah and uh so you

00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.279
know now I go to Costco it's like I can't remember the last time I walked into any Costco and actually seen a home

00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:26.320
phone for sale like they don't even have them anymore and like for for a while

00:33:24.679 --> 00:33:30.080
there there was a period of like at least a few years where they still had

00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:33.559
them everywhere but the way that they were justifying the high price was

00:33:32.360 --> 00:33:37.039
they're just giving you more and more handsets to the point where you'd have

00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:42.440
one that would come with you know four or five handsets in it and that was they

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:45.639
put ridiculous features on them too like I mean features like well they sound

00:33:44.360 --> 00:33:48.799
cool but they don't really work in practice like for instance I have a

00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:53.559
feature on my phone over here and it's one of the reasons why I bought it and guess what I never used the feature hey

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.919
good marketing huh um it's got It's got this Bluetooth thing where you can

00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.279
basically hook your Bluetooth conect connect to your cell phone any cell

00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:04.679
phone's Bluetooth you can connect it to the base station of this and if your

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.159
home phone rings your cell phone like

00:34:04.679 --> 00:34:10.000
rings and you answer it through the Bluetooth and you can talk on your home phone through your cell phone right so

00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.480
it basically turns your cell phone into a handset the problem is it only works

00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:16.320
when you're like 15 feet away from the base station it cuts out constantly so

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.520
it's like it's like they didn't even test it it was one of those illusionary benefits where it's like I bet you some

00:34:18.879 --> 00:34:24.720
nerd's going to buy this if we put it on the box and they were right I did but

00:34:23.359 --> 00:34:27.399
the cool thing about Costco is in 20 years I can take this handset back and

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:33.359
be like yeah uh it doesn't work give me all my money

00:34:30.919 --> 00:34:37.399
back that's Costco for you oh my god Costco's kind of

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:41.879
amazing the stuff I've taken back over periods of time has completely blown my

00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:46.359
mind I mean honest my favorite return story at Costco uh well actually I've

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:50.839
got it two one was my mom returning a toaster oven that was literally over 10

00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:55.079
years old and stopped working they gave her they gave her a brand new

00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:58.760
top-of-the-line one and then my personal favorite was one where I actually didn't

00:34:57.040 --> 00:35:03.359
even walk in with the intention of returning the thing so I I walked in

00:35:01.359 --> 00:35:08.680
with a pressure washer okay and pressure washers are one of those items that

00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:14.160
people um customer service people are real used to people renting you know yes

00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:16.680
yes kind of like snow blowers and air conditioners seasonal right you take

00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:22.079
them out a couple times a year maybe yeah seasonal items so I I first of all

00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:26.400
I figured okay this category getting anything done is going to be a problem

00:35:23.560 --> 00:35:30.720
so the only reason I went in was because it was some weird brand carer or

00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.760
something I couldn't even figure out how to pronounce it it had like an apostrophe in it I'm like okay whatever

00:35:33.520 --> 00:35:39.079
was this that elect was this one of those electric ones no it was a gas powered one oh it was a gas powered one

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.680
okay yeah yeah yeah it was gas powered one and I'd used it very heavily the

00:35:40.839 --> 00:35:48.400
previous summer when I was painting houses and um what happened and it was

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.599
the most bizarre thing like I I even though it legitimately happened I

00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:56.359
figured you walk into any store and tell them this they're not even going to

00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:59.599
believe you anyway so I all I wanted was

00:35:56.359 --> 00:36:03.240
I wanted a new wand for it because I was

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:06.800
using it and literally in the middle of

00:36:03.240 --> 00:36:10.040
using it it snapped in half the

00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:14.000
metal the metal snapped in half the the

00:36:10.040 --> 00:36:16.680
the brass fitting just like the threads

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:20.160
snapped right off of it and it just you know obviously what happens with a

00:36:18.359 --> 00:36:24.520
pressure washer when you don't have a nozzle on it is it just drips right like

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.920
it it's just normal normal water now be honest was was he hitting you with it

00:36:26.560 --> 00:36:31.760
yes I'm so sorry so I walk in and I'm just

00:36:29.640 --> 00:36:38.119
like um I don't know how to contact this manufacturer I need a new wand for this

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:41.079
thing can you help me and they're like

00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:44.480
no but we'll take that and give you a full

00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.760
credit and they won't even tell you what they won't even ask you nine out of

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:50.880
tenen times they don't ask you what's wrong with it nope it's pretty crazy

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.960
like my two best stories ever was a baby monitor I took a baby it legitimately

00:36:53.359 --> 00:36:58.400
broke the baby monitor we had it for about a year and the camera one of the

00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.400
cameras broke so we took the whole thing back and they're like they they're like

00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:06.560
oh do you have the re they asked me for the receipt cuz they couldn't figure out which purchase it was in the system

00:37:04.839 --> 00:37:10.240
because it was a really obscure item and so they opened up the back they got the serial number anyways they found it in

00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:14.960
the computer system they're like okay we found it they're like would you like cash or or store credit and I'm like

00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:18.560
cash and then they look in the bag and they're like oh do you have the power adapter for the other camera and I was

00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:23.000
like oh crap I left the power adapter at home I was like oh here I'll run home and get it they're like yeah don't worry

00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:25.359
about it and they so they gave me my money back so I still have the AC

00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:31.720
adapter for this thing sitting in the house somewhere and the second one was a friend of mine bought a treadmill had it

00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:33.119
for 3 years a tread a treadmill exercise

00:37:31.720 --> 00:37:37.599
equipment right who the hell returns that successfully and so the treadmill

00:37:35.839 --> 00:37:40.839
it was uh started squeaking or something the it wasn't even broken the belt was just squeaking or something so he loaded

00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.280
in his truck and took it back there and sure enough they just they just asked him uh you know cash credit here you go

00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:50.359
and the guy went out in the parking lot and put it on a flat bin took it inside and we're like dude you just returned a

00:37:48.160 --> 00:37:52.920
three-year-old used treadmill and it was like and he got and he got like $1,200

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:58.680
back for it it's like you bought the treadmill today on Craigslist it'd be like 50 bucks it just it blows my mind I

00:37:57.160 --> 00:38:04.319
don't know how that business model works and how they can actually like sustain that but hey I can tell you how it works

00:38:01.720 --> 00:38:08.560
if you'd like please do please do and does it involve unicorns and Steve jobs'

00:38:06.200 --> 00:38:14.280
soul I just I need to know it involves them being um obstinate and impossible

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:19.119
to deal with on the other side so you know how there's always there's always

00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:22.880
two sides of anything right like companies will have their customer

00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:27.880
facing side where they're the nicest folks ever and then the way that they

00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:32.560
get away with being the nicest people ever to customers is by being complete

00:38:30.640 --> 00:38:38.440
ass hats to the other people that they deal with and forcing their customer

00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:42.920
Centric policies on the folks that deal with them so the way that someone like

00:38:39.720 --> 00:38:44.359
Costco works is at the end of the year

00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:52.200
like first of all they're paying for things like net 180 net 365 like not

00:38:50.560 --> 00:38:56.640
paying for things for six months to a year after the product lands in the

00:38:54.119 --> 00:39:00.520
warehouse then anything that gets returned there's no negotiation process

00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:05.319
and this is all this is all my understanding from someone telling me this so I'd be happy for someone to

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:10.079
correct me if I'm wrong but basically what happens is anything that gets

00:39:06.720 --> 00:39:12.079
returned they put it on pallets they

00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.560
pack it up and they say we're not paying for these ones oh my God so basically

00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:21.240
what you're saying is when I go to Costco and they're like sir would you like cash or credit what they're really

00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:27.520
doing on the other end of Samsung as they're like yeah you're getting 6,000 TVs back yeah yes pretty much oh

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:31.480
that's most genius model ever yep it's it's like inverse Walmart and the thing

00:39:29.680 --> 00:39:35.400
is there's no way they're not going to want to sell their stuff to Costco yeah

00:39:33.240 --> 00:39:39.319
because Costco moves so much product that even though Samsung's taking that

00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:43.400
6,000 TVs back or whatever they're they're still making awesome money so

00:39:41.040 --> 00:39:47.160
Samsung's just like uh okay and then you get a huge you have no choice and the

00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:51.240
other thing I don't really get with Costco too is they got the membership deal right so they're making some money

00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:56.599
off that you buy a membership what is it like $30 $40 a year or whatever but then they have that executive membership that

00:39:54.640 --> 00:40:00.040
they cram down your throat and they try to get you to get it's like 20 it's only

00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:03.400
like was it like $50 more like $100 a year something like that but then they

00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:06.680
give you back like 5% of your purchases so every year I get a check from them

00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:10.920
for like thousands of dollars and I'm like how is this making you guys any

00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.000
money well it's it's all a volume game with them I mean okay here's something

00:40:12.839 --> 00:40:20.760
crazy I don't know if you know this my wife works at Costco um she's a pharmacy

00:40:16.680 --> 00:40:23.079
manager there so basically Costco aside

00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:27.359
from all of these sort of the the the way that they treat customers the way

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:32.839
they treat employees is really good and the way that they treat their internal

00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:34.200
policies is actually really amazing

00:40:32.839 --> 00:40:39.160
sometimes so my brother-in-law works there too and he loves it he's he's like a career guy he's been there for like 10

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:46.119
years there you go they actually have a policy that they will not Mark something

00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:48.119
up more than x% within a given category

00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:54.200
oh wow so like the way that it worked when I was in product management because

00:40:50.640 --> 00:40:57.520
NC is a fairly sensible company is that

00:40:54.200 --> 00:41:00.240
if we got a crazy you know end run deal

00:40:57.520 --> 00:41:04.599
on coolit eco water cooling units or something like that this was actually my

00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:11.480
buy I bought like 5,000 of them or 6,000 of them in one shot and we got them for

00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:14.760
like $28 or something insane like that

00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:17.680
so Costco would take that deal and they

00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:23.640
would Blitz them at$ 32.99 because that's their policy if they get a crazy

00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:25.400
deal they can't just milk it you it put

00:41:23.640 --> 00:41:30.760
default margin on it and call it good yeah okay whereas I was able to take

00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:35.280
that deal and turn it into thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars of

00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.119
profit and then Blitz it once in a while

00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:41.400
and and kind of kind of milk it that way but Costco's policy is that you can't do

00:41:39.319 --> 00:41:47.480
that that's why they don't sell Apple because they refuse to adhere to Apple's

00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:52.280
map gotcha because if they were selling Apple it be like here get an iPhone 68

00:41:49.319 --> 00:41:56.880
bucks yeah and nobody would ever go to the Apple Store ever again and Costco

00:41:54.640 --> 00:42:00.280
will not sell well or they won't buy it for less than what other people are

00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:04.640
paying cuz they're Costco and then they won't sell it for more than their policy

00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.720
dictates that they will sell it so it's almost it's almost funny because in a

00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:11.240
way it's like Costco's kind of a monopoly I mean they really are because

00:42:09.520 --> 00:42:14.560
companies if if a company wants to move volume they kind of have to deal with

00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:19.040
them and if they want to if they have to deal with them they have to kind of put up with their crap yep but but at the

00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:23.520
end of the day they're making money Costco's making money so I guess everybody's happy but it's just funny

00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.839
because I see so many I see I see the government going after so many companies for you know throwing around the whole

00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:31.640
monop world word or anything like that but it's I guess what do Costco got

00:42:29.319 --> 00:42:35.559
competition like what Sam's Club isn't Sam's Club like owned by the same parent

00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:39.760
Corporation I'm not sure we don't have Sam's Club here so no idea what Sam's

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:43.640
Club is I've been there it's very similar the same damn identical you

00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:46.440
never you'd never know you walk into the Sam's Club it's like somebody blindfold

00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:50.440
you'd like you'd look around and be like I'm in Costco it's like I think it's

00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:53.800
like blue themed instead of red themed for like yeah it's like that's pretty

00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:57.319
much it and I think about the only real difference is I think Sam's Club sells

00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:01.400
some things and small quantities like not a lot but some things whereas Costco

00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:04.400
everything's like super mega bulk that's why I like to shop at Costco because you

00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:09.200
know they sell Cereal by the gallon it's nice ah Sam's Club is actually a

00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:10.760
division of Walmart Oh is it really oh

00:43:09.200 --> 00:43:14.559
okay so so Wally world's trying to get their their piece of the pie I see how

00:43:12.520 --> 00:43:18.240
there you go all right we should probably do an actual Tech Topic at some

00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:23.400
oh yeah yeah sorry guys I'm a little random that ADHD tends to kick in every

00:43:20.240 --> 00:43:26.240
once in a while all right here we go so

00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:31.920
Sony sorry uh you're you're you're you're You're gone hold on I I'll I can

00:43:28.520 --> 00:43:33.760
bring you back actually son son what is

00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:38.280
even wrong with me today Sony isn't totally bleeding for money what they're

00:43:36.520 --> 00:43:43.079
totally not what are you talking about talking about

00:43:40.040 --> 00:43:45.880
what I'm trolling you oh you're

00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:51.000
confusing me okay so uh this was posted on the Forum by Good Bites as we know

00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:55.760
Sony has been doing some massive you know slashing and burning selling

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:59.920
everything that they can to stay afloat I think not that far away from them

00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:04.599
selling like office furniture at this point well cuz the reason why I was just

00:44:02.680 --> 00:44:08.200
trolling you that way was their claim is it's it's their ongoing effort to

00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:13.319
streamline their portfolio and operations okay so they it was messy

00:44:10.680 --> 00:44:19.400
they are selling their entire stake in Square Enix the studio behind the final

00:44:16.319 --> 00:44:20.240
fantasy series reports The Verge so Sony

00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.079
has 8.2% share in the company making it the

00:44:22.720 --> 00:44:31.680
largest shareholder and they expected to make about 4 .8 billion yen from the

00:44:28.520 --> 00:44:38.040
transaction um which like 48 bucks us

00:44:31.680 --> 00:44:38.040
right yeah so between them having that's

00:44:38.520 --> 00:44:45.400
rude so between them having um you know

00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:50.040
between them selling off buildings to keep things going and between them you

00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:53.599
know but no no no no this is just a streamline their operations you have no

00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:56.520
idea what you're talking about okay getting rid of the buildings I'll kind

00:44:55.520 --> 00:45:02.240
of I I'll say no BS getting rid of this the

00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:08.280
boat anchor that is Square Enix at this point I I don't understand who would

00:45:04.680 --> 00:45:10.280
even buy 88.2% of I don't think I don't

00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:14.640
think if you offered it to me for like if you're like okay look lonus you know

00:45:12.520 --> 00:45:21.880
like let's say your entire like net worth so like you know a couple hundred,

00:45:17.200 --> 00:45:26.240
right you can buy 8.2% of Square

00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:28.359
Enix I'd be like I don't know man let

00:45:26.240 --> 00:45:33.920
let me look into this first I'd probably do it in the sad immediately yeah but to

00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:39.400
who hopefully someone not to me

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:41.240
nope hopefully um SMBC Nico Securities I

00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:46.000
I don't get how how's Sony hurting for money they makes such quality products

00:45:42.680 --> 00:45:47.920
that almost never catch fire I don't you

00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:54.000
know the thing that frustrates me about Sony is it's like so many things where

00:45:51.520 --> 00:46:00.200
it's their own hubris that ultimately just makes them impossible to

00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:05.839
want to deal with as a customer the only Sony thing that I've bought in the LA

00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:08.880
since I since my disman from high school

00:46:05.839 --> 00:46:12.319
yeah since then is a professional grade

00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:14.480
camera so my Sony fs700 camera I bought

00:46:12.319 --> 00:46:19.079
because it was actually Innovative it was a compelling value and the features

00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:23.079
and quality of it were difficult to touch at the time um but I mean again

00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:28.079
the problem here is that in that particular category Sony is going up

00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:35.720
against the kings of hubris companies like Canon yeah so so like Sony's

00:46:32.520 --> 00:46:38.040
proprietary nonsense that they do is

00:46:35.720 --> 00:46:43.359
totally acceptable in that market so I so I didn't really have any better

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:45.640
choice but basically will I buy another

00:46:43.359 --> 00:46:50.240
piece of Sony gear after that experience is the camera excellent yes has it

00:46:47.680 --> 00:46:56.760
served us very well yes did they issue a firmware update that they charged me

00:46:52.240 --> 00:46:59.880
$600 for yes ouch

00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:02.040
so they sold this camera with 4K

00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:08.800
capability as a big selling point it has a 4K sensor in it and then no ETA on the

00:47:06.640 --> 00:47:13.880
actual firmware that would enable this nothing no ETA or Price estimate on the

00:47:12.319 --> 00:47:20.800
recorder that was going to enable it by the way Sony's proprietary recorder that

00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:23.440
uses their proprietary recording module

00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:26.760
that uses their proprietary media is like $88,000 so it's about the same

00:47:25.359 --> 00:47:31.599
price as the camera I could literally buy a red rig for the cost of that and

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:37.440
shoot with an fs700 like Sony are you high so so there so their proprietary

00:47:34.520 --> 00:47:40.839
solution costs double of what the one aftermarket solution that they've

00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:45.720
licensed the ability to record off this camera in raw mode costs so they they

00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:49.760
went and made their own solution make no sense because it's priced out to

00:47:47.240 --> 00:47:52.920
complete freaking lunch they want all these proprietary things they want you

00:47:51.240 --> 00:47:59.200
to pay for a firmware upgrade and I'm sitting here going Sony you haven't

00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.839
learned a damn thing have you yeah the

00:47:59.200 --> 00:48:03.559
yeah the whole paying for firmware C I mean that I'm going to call BS right out

00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.280
of the gate on that because the whole fact is the firmware drives the hardware

00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.839
right I mean to support the software don't be giving me extra features or

00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:15.280
fixing stuff that's supposed to already be fixed then charging me for it that

00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:19.319
that drives me absolutely nuts uh Sony's not the only one to do that either uh

00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:21.640
but I do like how Canon Canon's really forthcoming with their firmwares and I

00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:26.880
also like the fact that there's a lot of Open Source development for Canon too that's why I like to use the Canon

00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:31.599
platform what buttheads they're being to the open source crew right I haven't

00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:35.599
heard no are they are they being pretty pretty hard-headed about it yeah no

00:48:33.359 --> 00:48:40.920
there's uh I forget what camera it is I think the the issue is that it's capable

00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.920
of recording 4K but Canon has basically

00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:47.079
said anyone who makes a firmware for this that records in

00:48:44.720 --> 00:48:50.240
4k oh that's not that that's probably the Magic Lantern project for the 5D

00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:54.640
Mark iiii because I heard I think the Mark II sensor supports 4K but it only

00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:58.200
can record it for like even even even with the hacked firw can only record for

00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:01.839
like a maximum of like 10 seconds before the buffer memory runs out but I guess

00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:06.760
they just don't want people like overheating the sensors in them but oh well I'm still G to run

00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:12.200
Magic Lantern hey Canon if you're listening I'm running Magic Lantern on my

00:49:09.720 --> 00:49:16.359
camera what are you gonna do about it probably not honor my warranty now damn

00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:20.119
it no just kidding I think that's why people like black magic I don't even

00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:24.520
know why we're talking about cameras um I think that's why people like black

00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.480
magic and uh what are the guys the guys

00:49:24.520 --> 00:49:30.240
that make Sigma taking camera Market by storm right now

00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:34.760
yeah y guys like Sigma where it's like to me that's the biggest problem with a

00:49:32.520 --> 00:49:39.040
lot of different categories right now is that companies get into this rut where

00:49:37.160 --> 00:49:41.880
they release what the market will bear and price it at what the market will

00:49:40.359 --> 00:49:46.400
bear rather than actually trying to innovate we talked about black Magic's

00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:51.799
new camera so it's $6,000 camera with like replaceable sensor 10in screen on

00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:57.440
the side two more 5 in screens Elsewhere on the camera like freaking amazing

00:49:54.119 --> 00:50:00.200
piece of kit Grand shoots 4K out of the

00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:05.200
box and it's just like a big old you know Screw you guys to everyone else

00:50:03.319 --> 00:50:11.160
because we're building what we can for the budget as opposed to what we think

00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:13.160
people should be willing to pay and

00:50:11.160 --> 00:50:16.920
black Magic's not perfect a lot of their stuff is just fundamentally broken like

00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:20.280
people complain about the difference in audio quality on fastest Possible

00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:24.559
episodes that we shoot with our black magic cinema camera even though we spent

00:50:22.319 --> 00:50:29.160
an additional $400 on a preamp for the stupid thing because the internal audio

00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:32.960
recording Hardware is so broken like it's not perfect but at least they're

00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.240
trying yeah well I've seen their their Optics are amazing though I mean I I saw

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:41.599
uh what is it their little six or $700 handheld video camera it looks kind of

00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.160
like a flip video um oh I don't know are

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:46.680
you talking about the pocket yeah the black magic pocket it's like it's fairly

00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.760
inexpensive but it shoots 1080p I was watching uh back when I was thinking

00:50:48.040 --> 00:50:53.240
about buying a video camera I was looking at the video quality on that

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:58.040
thing and I was genuinely shocked like I didn't see anything else that even came

00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:59.640
close to that for Factor money aside

00:50:58.040 --> 00:51:02.880
they seem like they own that market for the quality and that size and I was like

00:51:01.319 --> 00:51:05.920
why are these not flying off shelves and I went and read a bunch of reviews and just like you were saying people were

00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:12.480
saying there's problems with them hanging and locking up and battery life issues battery poopy it seemed like they

00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:16.319
got it per like the the the the quality of what it could produce was absolutely

00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:19.119
amazing but the technical stuff you had to deal with to get there was painful

00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:23.079
and that's that's ultimately what killed it it's like it's the it's the hacker

00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:28.799
product it's for the folks that are willing to to dink around with it like

00:51:24.839 --> 00:51:31.440
our guy uh Brandon loves his pocket and

00:51:28.799 --> 00:51:35.960
he has a his is 2 and a2k right no ours are the two we have we have a 2 and a2k

00:51:33.640 --> 00:51:39.440
okay we sorry we so we have two black magic cinema cameras that's the 2 and

00:51:37.319 --> 00:51:43.880
a2k one the slightly bigger one and then Ed has one and then Brandon has a pocket

00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:48.040
yeah but I thought his pocket is 2 and a2k no that one's

00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:53.000
1080p but it's really nice 1080p it shoots pror I heard I heard him saying

00:51:50.520 --> 00:51:56.760
all weekend it's a pocket 2 and a2k dude if think could sh 2 and a2k on a pocket

00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:00.799
that is yeah no it's it's not if he was shooting on his pocket it's definitely

00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:05.520
1080p um all right let's move into our next topic I think we usually do half an

00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:09.079
hour guest segments but this has been kind of a different show from usual it's

00:52:07.720 --> 00:52:12.400
pretty casual I think we've managed to do like two topics so far so you can

00:52:10.839 --> 00:52:16.520
hang around with us but you're not obligated to just uh throwing that out

00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:21.319
there dude I don't I don't feel any obligation I like hanging out we've got

00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:25.480
like we've got like over 5,000 viewers right now that's actually really strong

00:52:24.040 --> 00:52:32.400
because my streams usually get about over 15,000 I'm so joking dude I get

00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.400
like 50 or

00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:39.920
100 um okay this is pretty cool so Intel

00:52:37.160 --> 00:52:46.359
is allegedly losing billions on tablet and smartphone categories so this was

00:52:43.799 --> 00:52:52.440
posted on the Forum by Good Bites Intel makes smartphones what well they do have

00:52:48.799 --> 00:52:54.640
smartphone processor smart guy um in

00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.960
recent months Intel has been under pressure so this is from The Verge to

00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:03.880
explain why personal computers haven't been selling quite as well LOL and but

00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:08.640
the chipmaker may have another pressing concern losing billions of dollars on

00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:13.720
mobile in 2013 Intel's mobile chip division lost a staggering

00:53:10.640 --> 00:53:17.599
3.15 billion after posting an operating

00:53:13.720 --> 00:53:19.720
loss of 1.78 billion in 2012 and in the

00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:26.119
first quarter of 2014 alone the mobile and Communications Group saw a 9.29

00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:28.440
million operating loss on a meager 56

00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:32.079
million in Revenue according to new Financial results issued today by the

00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:38.480
company so what I have to say to this is

00:53:35.160 --> 00:53:39.960
investors need to like cool it and

00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:47.599
understand that this is a long-term play for Intel Intel has been making so much

00:53:43.720 --> 00:53:49.520
ground up over the last two years or so

00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:53.520
compared to ARM Solutions in terms of their power efficiency and performance

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:58.280
within those power envelopes that we need in order for them to really be

00:53:55.240 --> 00:54:00.960
competitor in tablet and in smartphone

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:04.520
they're still ahead of everyone else on manufacturing process nodes and all that

00:54:03.160 --> 00:54:09.040
stuff they're still the technology leader give them a little bit longer and

00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:13.720
they're going to they're going to dominate but I'm open to other opinions

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:17.480
on this no I I tend I tend to actually agree with you on this I think I and and

00:54:16.200 --> 00:54:22.920
I'll probably take some backlash from this but you know I say anything but I I think arms getting played out I just the

00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:25.680
the the the performance versus power consumption thing just isn't doesn't do

00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.440
it for me i' I've still yet to see a single ARM Solution that's really like pushing the

00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:34.240
power that I've seen Intel capable on a similar size platform now granted

00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.319
consuming a hell of a lot more power and therefore killing your battery life but

00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:42.599
it's one of those things where it's like yeah I'd rather I'd rather have a lot of power for three hours than no power at

00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:47.000
all for 10 I mean that's just me generally I'm more of a power user but

00:54:45.240 --> 00:54:49.760
Intel and the other thing too is yeah they might be losing money you know hand

00:54:48.319 --> 00:54:53.160
over fist according to this article in the mobile space but you know how are

00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:56.280
they doing in the desktop and server space because I mean I they're still

00:54:54.640 --> 00:54:59.599
they're I mean they're heavy dominators in both of those faes and will continue

00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:02.760
to be and that could be allocated acceptable loss they might have known

00:55:01.520 --> 00:55:07.160
that that was going to happen and they were like oh this is going to cost this much to get done okay whatever let's do

00:55:05.640 --> 00:55:11.160
it I mean big companies like this can lose 5 10 billion dollars in a lawsuit I

00:55:09.520 --> 00:55:14.640
mean it's like so I don't when when I see numbers like that I'm like okay what's their what's their total

00:55:13.319 --> 00:55:17.640
projected Revenue I mean if they made $20 billion that year and they're down

00:55:16.640 --> 00:55:21.400
three billion because of the mobile Division I mean you know boohoo I mean

00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:26.880
it's it's fine it's just one of those things where it's an acceptable loss while you're pushing into that space

00:55:24.680 --> 00:55:30.079
yeah and the other thing is Intel I I remember reading a article a couple

00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:34.119
years back where they were talking about you know they're starting to hit the cap of of the frequency that the chips can

00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:40.440
operate at so now they're trying to go for more cores right they're trying to go out and kind of get that that breadth

00:55:36.839 --> 00:55:41.760
over depth and uh so you know it's not I

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:47.640
think Intel here in the next couple years we're going to start seeing like you know 16 core 32 core CPUs these are

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:51.480
going to be like commonplace and it's been sorry go ahead no no no go ahead

00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:55.160
it's been frustrating for the enthusiasts I think where you know we

00:55:53.760 --> 00:56:00.319
would have loved to have Intel delivering us eight 12 Core Extreme

00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:05.640
editions you know last year and they could have yes they could but Intel's

00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:10.599
very patient I mean you look at AMD's 8 core solution that they that they did

00:56:07.640 --> 00:56:16.200
deliver to the enthusiasts and did that product really make any sense you could

00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:18.359
find benchmarks where an fx8350 had an

00:56:16.200 --> 00:56:22.960
advantage due to its higher core count you could find those benchmarks but the

00:56:20.520 --> 00:56:31.520
thing ran so hot and consumed so much power and had such a big Dy compared to

00:56:26.839 --> 00:56:33.400
Intel's low power small D more Nimble

00:56:31.520 --> 00:56:38.520
competitors that you you look at it and you go well was Intel smarter to just

00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:42.599
not bother were they smarter to just be patient like this whole ARM thing that's

00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:46.200
going on are they just are they just holding their cards to their chest going

00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:52.520
you know what we're going to be ready with x86 eventually so it's going to

00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:56.640
take until you know like Intel's they're the kind of company there's going to be

00:56:53.640 --> 00:57:00.079
a one-year plan A 5year a 10 plan just

00:56:56.640 --> 00:57:02.000
going to kind of go okay 2020 like we're

00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:06.680
going to be ready we're going to crush it so we're just going to keep keep

00:57:04.520 --> 00:57:10.680
staying ahead in terms of manufacturing we're going to keep being the technology

00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:13.359
leader and this whole thing is going to happen and then we're going to we're

00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:18.599
just going to come in and dominate because the thing about smartphone

00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.680
processors and tablet processors is

00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:26.599
those manufacturers are so eager to save a

00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:28.280
dollar to win a Ben Mark and and find

00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:31.920
the balance between those two things that I don't think there's any loyalty

00:57:29.880 --> 00:57:37.200
to qualcom I don't think there's any loyalty to ARM you look at Samsung they

00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:40.599
don't even use their own exos processor in tons of their products they use

00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:46.760
whatever is the most competitive solution today to put into that phone to

00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:52.400
deliver the best performance possible so taking over the smartphone market is as

00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:54.640
simple as having the product that's

00:57:52.400 --> 00:58:01.000
better at this exact now point in time I mean you look at how NVIDIA how much

00:57:57.200 --> 00:58:03.200
momentum NVIDIA had with Tegra 2 and

00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:08.200
then how that has translated into absolutely nothing for Tegra

00:58:05.720 --> 00:58:12.520
4 yeah and and the other thing is you're not a smart move for a company is just

00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:17.160
like you were saying with The Five-Year Plan and the 10-year plan is just because you have something better on

00:58:15.799 --> 00:58:20.200
Deck doesn't mean that's the time to release it because you can still profit

00:58:18.799 --> 00:58:22.839
from all of the generations leading up to it that's right I mean yeah you're

00:58:21.799 --> 00:58:29.000
not you're not going to just go to the market and be like oh wow we created a 32 processor it's sound it works great

00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:31.359
you can charge $2,000 for it it's cost effective here let's take it to Market

00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:34.520
because then the problem is soon as you do that all of your competition is going

00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:39.039
to start well they're either going to have their own product already on Deck ready to go and they're going to have to

00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:41.640
counter and then both everybody loses right except for the consumer the

00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:46.039
consumer is like woohoo we're hauling ass but at the same time the company's

00:58:43.720 --> 00:58:49.440
lost all that money and revenue leading up to that and that's why I think you

00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.400
see these inch Wars you know you see one one CPU manufacturer comes out with

00:58:51.160 --> 00:58:57.280
something the next one comes out with something that's comparable plus one like literally plus one it's just a

00:58:55.799 --> 00:59:01.720
little bit better then the next Generation comes out it's a little bit better it's a little bit better I find

00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.799
that really hard to believe that that everything is just in these little

00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:09.200
microns and inches you know I have to believe that those companies have a lot of tech that's on deck that they're just

00:59:07.359 --> 00:59:16.760
holding back because it's not profitable to release it at this time you know what

00:59:12.200 --> 00:59:20.960
I think there's some of that but I also

00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:24.319
believe that because of the way the

00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:26.280
technology advances that sometimes two

00:59:24.319 --> 00:59:30.440
compan with completely different road maps and completely different technology

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:35.599
can actually just be neck and neck constantly like I don't believe for a

00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:38.520
second that if AMD had a graphics card

00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:42.680
that costs half as much and performed twice as fast as NVIDIA that they

00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:48.280
wouldn't release it I believe they would I think they just can't those guys hate

00:59:45.720 --> 00:59:53.920
I know I know don't I can't go into details but trust me I know this but uh

00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:56.359
but uh the thing with G with the GPU guys I tend to agree with you they're

00:59:55.160 --> 01:00:00.880
they're both they're both ramming their head against the wall neck and neck and the thing is they're not they're they're

00:59:59.640 --> 01:00:05.119
drastically different a lot of people don't realize that that uh you know the

01:00:02.839 --> 01:00:09.799
way Crossfire Works versus uh you know NVIDIA SLI is completely different the

01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:13.559
way the AMD leans heavily on having more cores versus NVIDIA having less cores

01:00:11.520 --> 01:00:19.280
and faster cores the Technologies are so radically different yet the end result

01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:20.920
is so close every time every time so so

01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:24.000
I tend to agree with you that I think it's more along the lines of when one

01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:27.200
company gets a little bit faster the other company goes how do we tweak it to

01:00:25.640 --> 01:00:30.599
make it better or just put a giant ass heat sink water cooler five you know

01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:34.960
it's like what do we have to do to get it to its absolute bleeding edge and a

01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:40.680
good example of this too would be back in the old CPU Wars like where you remember the old seller on 300a right y

01:00:39.240 --> 01:00:47.039
the the old you know I called it the Nintendo cartridge because you literally plugged it in like one and uh I remember

01:00:44.359 --> 01:00:51.880
those things you'd go buy these 300 A's and they would overclock 150 mehz out of

01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:56.359
the box on air you could go from 300 to 450 mehz and if you had a chosen awesome

01:00:54.599 --> 01:01:01.920
Malaysian one a sweet one you could get over 500 megahertz on those things I

01:00:58.720 --> 01:01:03.280
mean that is a giant percentage jump in

01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:07.599
performance out of CPU and I mean that kind of that's when the overclocking really took off from that point then

01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.839
mother motherboard manufacturers like all right cat's out of the bag Intel's

01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:15.400
obviously producing stuff that could be pushed a hell of a lot harder and now

01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:18.960
the chip manufacturers expect you to do it right I mean inel sells you a CPU and

01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:23.520
they're like oh here here's a 3.4 gigz CPU with turbo boost yeah and and if you

01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:29.160
go in the BIOS it'll go 10 times faster I mean it's it it's 10 times faster you

01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:32.000
10 times faster I gotta buy an ASUS board because it has a BIOS where you

01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:36.119
select an option that says make it go faster and I'm not joking that's

01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:38.880
literally what ASUS bioses are like now you go in there and it's like you know

01:01:37.640 --> 01:01:43.640
used to be overclocking was like yeah I'm going to tweak my CPU get the voltage up there mess with the VC core

01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:46.640
and the pl the was it the PLU voltage and everything no now you go in there

01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:52.039
and it's like uh let's see faster fastest extreme

01:01:48.799 --> 01:01:55.880
enter well you know an ASUS's ASUS's

01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:58.240
self overclocking utility is actually

01:01:55.880 --> 01:02:02.760
really good I mean gigabytes and MSI implementations with OC Genie and then

01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:07.440
whatever Gigabyte calls their thing not very good they're just they're just kind

01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:11.960
of taking a an approximate profile based on the you know thousand or couple

01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:16.400
thousand chips that they get to validate their boards and they're kind of doing a

01:02:13.799 --> 01:02:21.599
cross-section of okay well 90% of them are going to hit this setting so that's

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:27.319
the profile we're going to apply ASUS's actually goes and stress tests the CPU

01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:33.760
and keeps increasing things and dials in an overclock to the point where the last

01:02:29.680 --> 01:02:37.359
time I played with it which was I think

01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:39.440
Ivy Bridge not Haswell it was within

01:02:37.359 --> 01:02:44.000
like 100 mahz of what I could do on my own no no no exactly and and I think

01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:50.640
mine was even a tighter tolerance than that when I first got this CPU I have a 30 uh was it I think I got a 393k in

01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:56.000
this one running 4.5 a little over 4.5 right and uh and yeah I used that

01:02:52.520 --> 01:02:57.720
utility I think to get like to 4. 3 4.4

01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:00.079
and then the only reason the utility wouldn't take it any further is because

01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:05.760
it wouldn't go beyond a certain threshold on the voltage well I'm liquid cooled so I was like screw you guys I'm

01:03:02.839 --> 01:03:09.760
gonna just do it right uh but it's a great idea because that's exactly what

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:12.960
you should be doing and and this I'm I do a lot of automation work a lot of

01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:16.799
what I do at my daily job is is actually developing automation um to run test

01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:21.359
scenarios and things like that and it makes sense that when you write automation that you mimic what an actual

01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:25.039
human being would do you try to make the same rational decisions and everything

01:03:23.319 --> 01:03:27.640
and that's that's kind of the program's doing and I like that it takes that that

01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:31.520
outlook on it it's like we're going to bump it up a little bit try it if it doesn't work we're going to back it off

01:03:30.240 --> 01:03:35.839
or go a different direction if it doesn't work back it off going a different direction I like the fact that

01:03:34.200 --> 01:03:39.760
the motherboard manufacturer was like all right well let's design the software

01:03:37.640 --> 01:03:43.200
to work in tandem with the firmware BIOS or EFI or whatever you know depending on

01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:45.960
your situation let's let's make it work in tandem with that so that the machine

01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:50.760
can basically just sit there and power cycle itself and continuously adapt

01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:53.440
itself and tell it stable calling ASUS

01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:58.559
is uh calling ASUS is software something that you know works is sort of yeah well

01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:01.920
honestly I I've I've played with ASUS software Gigabyte software I've even

01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:05.119
played with some of the um for the GPU stuff uh what was it the ATI

01:04:03.720 --> 01:04:10.680
overclocking utility God I can't remember what the name of it is uh really old one overdrive yeah and and

01:04:09.279 --> 01:04:15.680
it's like this Ancient Ancient utility and it cracks me up because it like works on AMD processors and it works on

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:18.839
NVIDIA processors and you can tweak all these weird settings and everything I I

01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:22.920
love it when you pick up a piece of software that looks like it was wholeheartedly designed for one thing

01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:25.880
and it just works for everything else everything else yeah like like digital

01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:29.839
Western Digital creates what is that the Western Digital uh data uh Drive utility

01:04:28.319 --> 01:04:33.559
God my brain is not working today anyway well Cate has C tools and I know that

01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:36.640
works on anything they all work on everything it cracks me up it's like the

01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:40.200
other day I was my my boss was trying to get me to recover some data off of his

01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:42.680
uh broken Samsung drive and I just happened to have the Western Digital

01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:47.640
utility installed so I opened up Western Digital like yeah here I'll check out the drive yeah here I'll recover your

01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:51.400
data I was like all right well all right Western Digital

01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:56.240
that's uh that's pretty cool you know and it's like when you see stuff like the AMD tools working with NVIDIA you're

01:04:54.279 --> 01:04:59.279
like how is this even possible I mean other than them sharing like a basic

01:04:57.640 --> 01:05:04.640
software technology like direct deex or openg GL they're completely different

01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:06.680
yeah it's just it's very strange so I

01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:09.960
just realized it's like almost six o'clock already I know that you're not

01:05:08.319 --> 01:05:15.720
going to be sticking around much longer so we should definitely do our sponsor

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spots here so number one is

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squarespace.com guys Squarespace is the easy way to set up your own beautiful

01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:27.079
website they actually had something that they wanted me to talk about this week

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this was what's that all I was going to say get it cuz it's a square cuz Barnes

01:05:28.839 --> 01:05:33.599
CLE was making a square but then he's not onen yeah he's not on screen they

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can't see so then I was like get it and then I was like no no one gets it I'm

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sad now none of none of the jokes were

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gotten none at this point in time fail

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so Squarespace did ask me to mention that they are have been nominated for

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four web's so the link here is uh sqs

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P.M e Q5 brwa and they asked me to reach out to

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my audience be like yo guys can you vote for them because the webbi are sort of a

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big deal so I went ahead I posted that link in the twitch chat please do by the

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way guys Jerry's not gone Jerry's still here he's just replaced by Squarespace

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because Squarespace makes such beautiful websites and Jerry just can't compete

01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:24.480
with a beautiful website like lus Medi group.com which Jerry was in a

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Squarespace and now Squarespace is in a rectangular space I'm so confused right

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:33.400
now yeah this is like space deception why is he back again let's get rid of

01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:36.359
this guy there we go so Squarespace is good because they they've been hassling

01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:41.559
me to create a web page so should should I take them up on it like you know what

01:06:39.319 --> 01:06:45.400
good stuff aside from them being a sponsor of our show aside from that we

01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:49.039
used them far before they were a sponsor we used them before they were a sponsor

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because it's really inexpensive and it's really easy and you know what this is

01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:58.000
okay aside from the Webby thing that they did ask me to mention um have you

01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:02.920
noticed that every Kickstarter has a Squarespace site I have noticed that

01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:09.000
actually no I haven't That's funny though go on kickstarter.com

01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:11.240
find a Kickstarter go to their website

01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:14.359
be like cuz Squarespace they've only got like I think it's less than 30 templates

01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:19.119
so they have templates that are optimized for having a so you can right

01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:22.760
so you can tell so they have templates that are optimized for like um an

01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:27.279
e-commerce thing they have blog optimized ones portfol optimized ones or

01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:31.520
whatever else and I swear they should just have a template called Kickstarter

01:07:29.160 --> 01:07:34.760
because they all used it you know what the sad thing is I'm actually I actually

01:07:33.160 --> 01:07:39.400
am a web developer I mean I'm very very versed in mvc4 and asp.net technology

01:07:37.799 --> 01:07:43.720
SQL I'm I'm very comfortable with all that stuff but the problem is building a

01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:47.000
web page from the ground up using those Technologies is like pulling teeth yes

01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:51.920
if it's my job and they're paying me for it and I got six months to do it hey rock on but I don't have that time to

01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:55.319
make my own personal site that way I literally just want to be lazy it's like

01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:59.119
I'm like the mechanic that takes his car to Jiffy Lube you know it's like I just

01:07:57.799 --> 01:08:01.960
I just want to get a website up and I want it to work for people and I don't

01:08:00.799 --> 01:08:05.880
want everybody coming at me and saying yeah I'm getting 404 errs constantly because you like screwed up the

01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:11.319
threading or something on you know on your Forum I I don't want to deal with that and with Squarespace you can dink

01:08:09.520 --> 01:08:15.159
around with it if you want they have an advanced mode so you can you can totally

01:08:13.319 --> 01:08:19.279
play around with things if you want to otherwise what are they based on I'm

01:08:17.480 --> 01:08:23.159
sorry what what are they based on are they are they like uh are they Linux

01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:26.759
Windows ASP net Apache like what do what do they use for their back in look who

01:08:24.799 --> 01:08:30.920
you're talking to man I actually never touched it because um edel actually did

01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:34.759
all of the design so I don't know and neither of them will know so that

01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:39.359
question's going nowhere all right sorry so the can I drag drop my pictures and

01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:44.359
people can see them that's how easy it is our designer basically did the site

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yep I actually never touched it I'm going to try it out guys all right

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Square Squarespace site coming your way all right cool okay and so look at that

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we look at that so okay so just as a reminder guys squarespace.com / Linus

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01:09:01.440 --> 01:09:07.520
move into give me your affiliate link I don't want lus getting my 10% oh wow I'm

01:09:05.440 --> 01:09:14.440
just kidding I'm just kidding you come on my show you don't give me my 10% or

01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:19.159
your 10 it's your 10% I don't even get I don't even get anything for it I don't

01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:23.960
even get a commission on those signups it's they just they sponsored the show

01:09:20.799 --> 01:09:26.080
at a flat rate I'm stab you my 3D print

01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:30.120
a knife okay here hold still that's actually pretty cool um I went to the

01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:34.120
gaming section and I didn't see any sites designed by Squarespace and I was like that kind of makes sense maybe

01:09:32.759 --> 01:09:38.359
because these are all programmers so I jump to the design side and I'm pretty sure this is Squarespace site and it's

01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:43.839
the very first one I there you go all right so we do have

01:09:41.080 --> 01:09:49.040
one more sponsor today and that is ASUS with their g750 JayZ notebook The

01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:53.440
Notebook that actually doesn't make a ton of sense for us to be sitting here

01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:56.159
on the show using unless we're Jay-Z Thank you you for

01:09:56.440 --> 01:10:02.040
that you know that I actually I actually

01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:07.400
have to send these sponsor spots to our sponsors and they get to

01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:10.840
hear that joke but look at the interaction with twitch chat which

01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:17.800
hasn't started happening they don't they don't watch the whole show for context

01:10:13.679 --> 01:10:20.120
all they hear is wow they made a joke

01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:24.280
about the letters J and Z being in the product part number see the the people

01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:28.760
in the chat love it you are like a genius hey Jay-Z jokes are funny okay I

01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:32.560
saw a Supra Toyota Supra with the hood open there was two pictures of Jay-Z

01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:35.520
under the hood and it said two JayZ because there's two of them and that's

01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:40.199
that's the engine well you guys would know that you're not car nerds are you

01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:43.560
no nerds all right I'm bringing you I'm bringing you into our sponsor spot

01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:47.719
because we're actually going to turn this sponsor spot into a bit of a

01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:54.159
discussion about the g750 j-z because last week um he okay I'll move him down

01:10:52.040 --> 01:10:58.520
okay can you just everyone patting his head can everyone just calm down for a

01:10:56.199 --> 01:11:04.600
second I'm trying to do something here all right so last week when I did my

01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.600
sponsor spot for the for the 750

01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:12.400
JZ now I'm not going to be able to say that was a straight face for the rest of

01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:14.840
the show I hate you I hate you oh my God

01:11:12.400 --> 01:11:19.400
okay the problem was that I had set one up for myself to use and I'd been like

01:11:17.280 --> 01:11:23.040
yep I'm ready to rock on this thing I'm gonna like play around with it and

01:11:21.080 --> 01:11:26.719
Benchmark it a little bit and then this guy

01:11:24.400 --> 01:11:30.280
flies out to Boston takes my machine that I set up and I got to start over

01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:34.360
from scratch so I'm just like oh way you took you took the money I set up now so

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:38.560
I'm like now it's all tedious and I have to like log into all my accounts and all

01:11:36.440 --> 01:11:43.480
this crap again so I actually had to do the show last week having just taken the

01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:47.719
the the laptop out of the box basically put it on my lap and started the show so

01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:51.120
aside from appreciating that the cooling system on it is pretty good and my lap

01:11:49.239 --> 01:11:56.360
doesn't get too hot especially for a gaming notebook I really didn't have

01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:58.320
much to say about it but since then we

01:11:56.360 --> 01:12:04.840
have benchmarked the thing and let me let me ask you this uh Jerry did you

01:12:01.080 --> 01:12:06.840
know that the GTX 880m is actually

01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:10.120
pretty damn close to the full spec of a GTX

01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:14.280
770 no but that's pretty damn impressive being in a laptop what's the battery

01:12:11.480 --> 01:12:17.840
life like 20 minutes the actually we the one thing we haven't benched is battery

01:12:15.719 --> 01:12:20.280
life but I'm assuming it's not like hours and hours and hours when you're

01:12:19.040 --> 01:12:25.159
gaming I think it's going to go like this like this is 100% it's like okay word processing you're good watching

01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:29.400
movie you're good playing the game it's just going to bounce like but this does

01:12:27.080 --> 01:12:33.280
have NVIDIA's new thing yeah we saw that work it does have Optimus so that means

01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:41.400
that like his laptop that he's been using for the entire show which is a couple hours now is sitting at uh 67%

01:12:38.440 --> 01:12:44.360
battery so when you're not at 100% oh that's right that was the one that

01:12:42.280 --> 01:12:49.920
wasn't plugged in isn't it okay so so the so when you're not gaming out flat

01:12:46.480 --> 01:12:53.000
out not that bad but the crazy thing

01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:56.400
okay so it has a full GK 104 core in

01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:59.239
there no disabled Cuda course it h it's

01:12:56.400 --> 01:13:04.040
clocked about 20% higher than the last gen 7 ADM or whatever it was so it's

01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:07.760
actually clocked at about 1 GHz we played around with overclocking a little

01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:12.480
bit you can overclock it using standard overclocking tools and get this even

01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:19.520
though the CPU so it's a 4700hq I think it is versus like a 4770k

01:13:17.280 --> 01:13:23.920
and if you look at Intel's um if you go on Arc you can find out that those two

01:13:21.440 --> 01:13:29.120
CPUs cost exactly the same so the clock speed of that CPU is a good like 20 30%

01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:34.600
slower but our review of this is coming out tonight Luke benchmarked it against

01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:41.760
a comparably priced desktop featuring a GTX 770 and a 4770k and it was what like

01:13:38.679 --> 01:13:43.639
60 70 80% of the speed depending on the

01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:47.400
game yeah and like you have to you have to realize that we also hit the same

01:13:45.400 --> 01:13:50.880
spec as the laptop it's like we had a Thunderbolt motherboard and we had a

01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:54.400
Blu-ray we we went to be feature complete we wanted to be feature

01:13:52.400 --> 01:13:58.880
competitive with the laptop what's the res what's the res on the screen on that

01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:59.840
thing it's 1080 so 1080p God so that

01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:09.560
would probably run gez that would probably run like Battlefield 4 on Ultra like no sweat yeah that's insane laptop

01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:11.600
the theme of the review is not you know

01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:16.719
is this the lightest most portable thing in the world no it's not but the theme

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:22.880
of the review is is there room in the world for a laptop that exists between

01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:27.239
the bulk of a desktop and the slimness of something like a thin and light

01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:29.520
gaming notebook when the price to

01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:33.600
Performance compared to a desktop is actually not that far off so our laptop

01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:40.280
ended up costing I think a couple hundred more to have feature completeness so for things like the

01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:42.400
desktop we got a webcam just a $2 webcam

01:14:40.280 --> 01:14:45.960
because a laptop has a webcam it's part of the overall Computing experience we

01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:50.440
grabbed a decent keyboard with a backlight because it's got a decent backlit keyboard on it so we did all

01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:54.480
those things and it was about a couple hundred bucks out and I think it was around 70 to 80% of the performance

01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:59.199
performance so very interesting no and the thing is

01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:04.679
with me is like and and this is the other thing is some people like especially like women I would find like

01:15:02.120 --> 01:15:07.239
my wife they like having compact Small Things fitting their purse carry around

01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:10.040
like my wife she has she actually has a MacBook Air and she loves it she

01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:14.280
absolutely loves thing I can't pry it out of her hands we will have one person

01:15:12.360 --> 01:15:20.840
watching this show that is like I am a female and I want a 750 JayZ yeah that's

01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:28.080
fine because this show is powered by the isusa g750 Jay-Z so go for right but

01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:29.679
anyway I I would rather have a large

01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:33.840
desktop replacement class laptop cuz weight's not an issue with me I'm 280 lbs I don't care I'll carry around a

01:15:32.280 --> 01:15:37.400
freaking desktop on my back I don't care but uh I used to have this laptop my

01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:42.400
favorite laptop ever of all time it was a Dell XPS you remember those Godly old

01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:47.080
laptops they had 17inch screens on them they weighed like 20 pounds they were

01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:51.760
like this thick yeah I I had one of those and it had the most amazing specs

01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:57.800
for the time and I remember I gamed oh and it had a uh had had a 19 uh was it

01:15:54.920 --> 01:16:02.880
1920 by or 1900 X 1200 screen so the old you know uh was it 9 by 10

01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:07.440
aspect 16 by 10 yeah yeah the thing played everything absolutely everything

01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:10.120
for like two years on Max settings after I got it it was a work I I didn't buy a

01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:15.360
work work God I think it was like it's five grand or something for that thing but still for to have a laptop that for

01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:18.800
two years had specs that just blew I mean it blew my desktop Dev machine away

01:16:17.440 --> 01:16:23.440
everything I used it for absolutely everything I even had a dock so that you could just plug the damn thing in and

01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:26.440
have it on all your laptops I like I think that that's the that's the

01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:29.719
experience I'd like to move towards like I think ASUS is kind of headed in that

01:16:28.040 --> 01:16:33.679
right direction where if you have a laptop that can produce the same

01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:37.800
graphical horsepower as a desktop and it can support multiple monitors through a

01:16:35.280 --> 01:16:41.080
dock and connect all your peripherals I would rather just take that with me

01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:45.679
everywhere come home slap it down on my Dock and have that all available to me

01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:50.239
and there's there is a market for that and so that was that was the that was

01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:54.400
the journey that we were going on because you talk about how that one cost

01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:57.840
you five grand or cost Microsoft 5 grand or someone paid grand for it whereas

01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:02.159
this one's 2200 which to me is a lot more

01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:05.080
reasonable and a lot closer when you consider the fact that it comes with a

01:17:03.639 --> 01:17:08.600
monitor and it comes with keyboard and all that kind of stuff is a lot closer

01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:12.719
to what I would expect an Enthusiast to pay for a gaming machine yeah I'd say

01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:20.199
there's probably what about a $500 Delta there between building something comparable on the desktop um about 200

01:17:17.280 --> 01:17:23.840
actually really wow if you make yourself you know cuz it has Thunderbolt and

01:17:21.440 --> 01:17:27.120
stuff like so if you buy Blu-ray Drive like if you make yourself buy all the

01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:31.320
same features and you can agree or disagree with this particular config but

01:17:29.679 --> 01:17:35.639
it's available in a variety of configs with you know 16 gigs 24 gigs 32 gigs of

01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:39.040
RAM however much you need so whether you agree with this particular config or not

01:17:37.639 --> 01:17:43.800
if you want to build the same thing as a desktop we came around $200 short on the

01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:50.120
desktop wow wow is it an SSD in that too standard equipment uh two ssds two 128s

01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:52.560
and a one terab hard drive dude that is

01:17:50.120 --> 01:17:58.080
that is whoa whoa two ssds and a one terab physical Drive yeah so they're m.2

01:17:55.239 --> 01:18:02.760
ssds so there's no bottleneck there and then it's also got a and it's fully

01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:07.440
upgradeable so you can just um you take out one screw and it's a nice little

01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:10.360
retained screw and then you can access both of the SSD slots as well as the

01:18:09.040 --> 01:18:14.360
hard drive slot and then two of the memory slots very very easily damn it's

01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:17.239
kind of making my Surface RT here feel a little underpowered and

01:18:17.320 --> 01:18:25.760
inadequate super thin well for what it's worth as much larger uh as my laptop is

01:18:23.400 --> 01:18:29.760
than yours you are that much larger than me that's true that's true and my and my

01:18:28.120 --> 01:18:38.440
computer system is that much larger too right so wow wow so now okay well um my

01:18:35.040 --> 01:18:40.560
um helicopter is larger than yours oh

01:18:38.440 --> 01:18:44.719
don't you mean your Lamborghini yeah my Lambo Lambos aren't about the size my

01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:49.600
friend Lambos are not about the size they're about the speed everyone knows

01:18:47.080 --> 01:18:53.840
faster is much more satisfying I'm GNA own a Lambo one day now if you open the

01:18:52.040 --> 01:18:57.920
door the inside going to say Pontiac Fiero but it on the outside all Lambo

01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:02.040
it's going to be awesome all right we should do some actual topics for a sec

01:19:00.080 --> 01:19:07.000
here so uh this was probably one of the funniest posts that I have ever seen on

01:19:04.120 --> 01:19:12.199
the lonus tech tips Forum by brown ninja 97 um basically he's like okay you have

01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:18.120
to put on this music you have to put on this music while you read it dramatic

01:19:14.080 --> 01:19:20.400
music and give it up for the gt75 gt710

01:19:18.120 --> 01:19:29.199
and gt720 so the uh the Kings of rebadging

01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:33.320
the uh the um you know GPU makers of the

01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:36.960
world first up the gt720 is a rebadge of

01:19:33.320 --> 01:19:40.840
the GT 610 which was a rebadge of the GT

01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:42.600
520 so 48 hole Cuda cor with a 64-bit

01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:49.600
memory bus the gt710 is not a rebadge of the

01:19:46.480 --> 01:19:53.239
gt620 what it's a rebadge of the

01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:57.280
gt630 it's actually a cut down GT6 other

01:19:53.239 --> 01:20:00.159
name and then finally the uh the new

01:19:57.280 --> 01:20:04.760
flagship mascot is the gt720 which uh is the same as the above

01:20:02.679 --> 01:20:08.360
card but Superior instead of being a half Rebrand so a cut down Rebrand it is

01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:14.400
a full Rebrand um this is an awesome post have

01:20:12.360 --> 01:20:18.000
you not read this I had not read this oh my goodness this is really well done so

01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:22.080
is NVIDIA just employing like some guy that just sits back there with some sandpaper and just takes the top off and

01:20:20.719 --> 01:20:30.760
then gets out his little calligraphy pen he like this is GK 208 Dash I see their

01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:33.120
point I see why they're not even

01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:39.159
bothering in the low end because quite frankly I think that under something

01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.800
like a 60 class card on the NVIDIA side

01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:46.760
so so an x60 or even an X you know 50 where

01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:51.280
they're actually using the same GPU as the 6D class card which is well last

01:20:49.280 --> 01:20:58.199
generation anyway was using the same GPU as the as the 7 class card I think that

01:20:54.719 --> 01:21:02.239
they don't get a compelling enough cost

01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:04.920
savings under that die size to even make

01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:08.960
the thing competitive so they're just they're delivering these cards to Market

01:21:06.639 --> 01:21:13.800
because mainstream people at Best Buy buy them and if NVIDIA doesn't make this

01:21:11.480 --> 01:21:19.560
card then AMD will and someone has to sell a graphics card to that person but

01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:23.639
I think they've just given

01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:25.719
up oh that's funny I mean we've had this

01:21:23.639 --> 01:21:31.360
talk before though this like exact same thing this is just more direct there was

01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:35.639
like yeah there's some stuff whatever like I mean we I did a video a little

01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:41.040
while back where I basically maybe this is why AMD didn't send me an R9

01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:45.400
295x2 no I I don't think that's it they're actually sending one now so we

01:21:43.440 --> 01:21:48.840
have Austin's and they just confirmed that they found one for us so I'm like

01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:55.840
okay God oh yeah you're going to send it to me afterwards right for my bit coining rig come on oh absolutely

01:21:52.040 --> 01:21:57.520
awesome awesome yeah um so so anyway so

01:21:55.840 --> 01:22:02.719
we did a video a little while ago about how the r7240 is stupid and nobody

01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:08.800
should buy it and we actually in spite of us presenting these facts this is how

01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:12.960
it performs this is what it does and this is how much it costs this card

01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:17.520
makes no sense and nobody on Earth should buy it we actually had people

01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:21.880
disliking the video and justifying it in the video comments and telling me that I

01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:26.800
was wrong and close-minded and I'm just sitting here going okay then you guys

01:22:24.040 --> 01:22:30.480
can keep buying GT 720s for all I care because there's nothing I can do for you

01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:35.320
dude some people are just all about The Branding didn't we give an exact price

01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:40.000
per performance comparison of an AMD card that was better but I had people

01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:43.920
say but I had people saying I had people saying look these are for like upgrading

01:22:41.639 --> 01:22:53.159
machines and offices to which I would reply well no uh HD 5450 which are like

01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:55.520
$13 are for upgrading machine Mach in

01:22:53.159 --> 01:23:00.159
offices so there's there's the cheap card and then there's the card that has

01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:03.480
performance and then there's this weird thing that's expensive and doesn't have

01:23:01.679 --> 01:23:08.199
performance and it just shouldn't exist but people don't get it rebranding

01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:13.239
pisses me off because I've actually bought the same thing twice because of

01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:15.199
it before did you really you got to tell

01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:18.760
the story I'm G to tell the story and and it's so it's software not Hardware

01:23:17.440 --> 01:23:26.639
software I just want to be clear on that on Hardware I'd probably do a little bit more due diligence but there's a game

01:23:22.040 --> 01:23:28.280
called the War Z oh no biggest piece of

01:23:26.639 --> 01:23:34.199
ever made in the history of anything anything horrible now this game

01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:38.800
I mean massive Uprising against it right if you guys know the stories behind it like the communities rose up against it

01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:42.480
it was a big huge you know pay pay to win game anyways I bought it I was

01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:46.520
pissed I sent him money I said give me my refund this is horrible they finally

01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:51.000
refunded my money and no kidding on a steam sale a couple weeks later a new

01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:56.280
game pops up called infestation Survivor stories and I'm like that looks cool so

01:23:54.040 --> 01:24:01.120
I buy it I open the game up guess what it was the War Z all the graphics

01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:04.400
exactly the same everything exactly the same settings music everything the same

01:24:03.120 --> 01:24:08.080
all they did was just change one graphic in the game from the War Z to freaking

01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:10.960
infestation Survivor stories so then I got on the Forum and I find out that oh

01:24:09.679 --> 01:24:14.880
no they had to change they had to change the name for some reason they they they

01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:18.000
just renamed the game I was the only one that got hit by this like because it was

01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:21.639
in one of those humble bum bundles I was like I'm gonna God of course I want it

01:24:20.320 --> 01:24:26.760
and that's what I bought it for and then I opened it I just I just face palmed I was like did I just really do that oh my

01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:32.040
God but I but I was happy to know that I wasn't alone that other people were doing it too but it just it pisses me

01:24:29.719 --> 01:24:35.400
off because it's like no you created it as that product it needs to stay that

01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:38.760
product I'm sorry that was actually that was a big deal when they renamed

01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:41.760
themselves a lot of people bought it oh my God that was actually like a big

01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:45.159
problem and that was the thing is it wasn't available on Steam before that

01:24:43.480 --> 01:24:49.239
too so it was like a new game to steam it was a completely new name you could

01:24:46.480 --> 01:24:51.840
tell that they I mean they they should have got the crap suit at them for that

01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:55.679
because it was obvious that they were just trying to deceive the public and I

01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:58.679
was just like and I fell for it I felt like an idiot and I still do because

01:24:57.639 --> 01:25:03.320
it's still sitting over here in my freaking Steam folder that's how I found the name it's

01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:08.719
not even installed I didn't even bother downloading it because I it's not it's not even worth the the freaking Gigabyte

01:25:07.040 --> 01:25:13.639
it'll probably occupy on my S my precious SSD yeah oh horrible so yeah I

01:25:12.280 --> 01:25:16.880
hate rebranding and then and then from the Microsoft side so I don't so I don't

01:25:15.480 --> 01:25:21.760
look like I'm just playing devil's advocate here to everything that isn't Microsoft you know we had to rename sky

01:25:19.639 --> 01:25:25.679
drive to one drive we actually had to rename it like it was it was a it was a

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:29.400
legal battle that we lost but still it sucks because I get all this influx of

01:25:27.400 --> 01:25:33.679
mail from my family and everything going oh man should I upgrade to one drive I

01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:40.360
got Sky Drive what hey is this one drive thing better I'm like no oh just just

01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:43.280
download the update it's the same thing it's a changed graphic but it's just

01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:46.119
that's how marketing Works people see something new they genuinely believe

01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:49.440
it's something new and it's something better right like that's the initial you

01:25:48.040 --> 01:25:54.840
know benefit of the doubt that you give to the product I'm like oh my god there should just be there should be freaking

01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:59.719
laws against that speaking of something new and something legitimately different

01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:05.280
Quan like I am so glad this is finally happening you can leave anytime if you

01:26:01.080 --> 01:26:08.000
want I not not you him I don't even know

01:26:05.280 --> 01:26:13.600
if I can because I don't have a phone so orchestrating these things hard so I'll

01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:18.280
you try to figure it out okay um so quantana I'm I'm glad this is finally

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:22.360
happening where Wi-Fi is finally going somewhere because for the longest time I

01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:29.520
was sitting here going okay so like my mobile data connection is like getting

01:26:25.360 --> 01:26:31.520
awesomer by the generation and like Wi-Fi

01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:37.320
wi okay so we went from we went from what like Wireless A to B which was like

01:26:34.679 --> 01:26:42.000
slower and then we went to wireless G which just got us back to like Wireless

01:26:39.080 --> 01:26:46.440
a speeds again but like better range and then we stuck with G for 100 billion

01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:50.600
years that's true that's true and then and then when n came out it wasn't even

01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:57.400
n it was like uh what what they call it draft n draft n yeah it was draft and it

01:26:54.360 --> 01:27:00.360
it wasn't really faster yet and then

01:26:57.400 --> 01:27:05.960
finally we got like we got like mimo concurrent in and then that like got

01:27:03.040 --> 01:27:11.199
faster and then and then those routers were so expensive that everyone started

01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:13.639
costing down and doing like 150 megabit

01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:18.560
n that wasn't even really that much faster and then finally things are

01:27:16.639 --> 01:27:25.199
starting to heat up a little bit we got AC which can do real world throughput if

01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:27.719
you're using a of like 500 600 megabit

01:27:25.199 --> 01:27:34.880
and then now quantana is announcing development of a 10g 802.11 AC chipset

01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:36.840
so this will support eight stream

01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:43.719
configurations versus three stream previously up to a 160 MHz channels up

01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:46.840
from 80 MHz and multi-user mimo so we

01:27:43.719 --> 01:27:50.280
could be looking at some serious

01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:52.159
performance versus broadcom's 5G just

01:27:50.280 --> 01:27:56.320
don't stand within 10 foot of it or you will go sterile just saying that's okay

01:27:55.320 --> 01:27:59.440
I've already procreated I don't want to so we can

01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:04.320
definitely get one of these in the office oh yeah oh wait I did two I'm

01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:08.080
gonna order two don't Kidd so I think that's pretty much all I

01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:12.600
have to say about that especially because we don't have much time left here but I think that's fantastic I

01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:18.080
think that we're a long way away from even being able to leverage something like 10g Wireless I mean you know you

01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:22.280
talk about nand capacities and how they've stagnated in devices let's talk

01:28:19.960 --> 01:28:25.960
about how nand speeds haven't really changed much over the last few years

01:28:23.639 --> 01:28:30.520
because each processed node shrink actually causes Nan performance to get

01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:34.480
worse without fancy controller tricks and and don't forget all the all the the

01:28:32.679 --> 01:28:38.840
the basically frequency pollution now that's going on I mean I have literally

01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:42.159
50 plus networks within the vicinity of my house it's cascaded across all the

01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:47.719
channels like I that's one of the things I like using my Nexus for I opened up and I used that uh what is it Wi-Fi

01:28:45.040 --> 01:28:50.639
monitor yeah and Wi-Fi monitor basically is just like a million lines it

01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:55.760
basically looks like Global thermal nuclear war going on across all of the

01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:59.000
frequencies and all of the Bands I swear no matter what I do with two access

01:28:57.360 --> 01:29:03.239
points and three repeaters in my house I still have dead spots just because

01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:08.880
everything's occupied someone needs to make the Wi-Fi fighting game yes oh

01:29:06.040 --> 01:29:13.880
that'd be cool where it's like global thermonuclear war Wi-Fi Edition and like

01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:18.360
the the planet is like the range of your Wi-Fi you have to like fight off other

01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:22.760
Wii that is genius like scor remember that game scorched Earth yeah dude

01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:25.440
scorched Earth with Wi-Fi signals like everybody sets up their access points

01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:31.000
and you literally put it up on the screen and then you go move your access points around to try to attack their

01:29:28.480 --> 01:29:34.080
router that would be awesome somebody do that Kickstarter Kickstart that project

01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:38.639
I'll throw some yeah someone will Kickstart it for like 5,000 bucks and it'll be funded by like 10 quillion

01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:43.360
percent and then never you'll make yeah you'll make $50 billion and you won't even have to create a real product since

01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:48.480
most kickstarters don't anyways yeah sell the

01:29:45.400 --> 01:29:51.239
Facebook why am I even on this

01:29:48.480 --> 01:29:55.400
show I even want to talk to you people why fighter

01:29:52.760 --> 01:30:00.800
why I like it why I can't come up with something better wi fighter I love it

01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:05.480
okay next topic Amazon's smartphone revealed in leaked photos so the big

01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:10.119
news here original article from BGR posted by

01:30:06.719 --> 01:30:13.440
dezi on the Forum so the big news here

01:30:10.119 --> 01:30:15.800
is that Amazon has put is it four or

01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:20.040
five I think they put five cameras on the front of it six oh on the front yeah

01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:24.639
five on the front yeah five cameras on the front of this thing and basically

01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:28.360
the objective here that they're trying to

01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:31.040
objectify achieve I suppose would be a better word for that the objective

01:30:29.719 --> 01:30:38.400
they're trying to objectify the objective here is to make it 3D looking

01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:41.239
without needing the same kind of uh the same kind of screen element that they

01:30:39.679 --> 01:30:44.880
have in front of the DS without needing active shutter glasses so the way it'll

01:30:43.480 --> 01:30:48.960
work is the cameras are actually going to track your eye movement so they can

01:30:46.639 --> 01:30:55.520
create 3D elements in things like the wallpapers um app icons things like

01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:58.760
photos so while you're shopping you can you can kind of look around the side of

01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:06.080
things like kind of like a parallax effect um would this sell you a new

01:31:03.040 --> 01:31:07.679
phone Jerry or you for that yes okay if

01:31:06.080 --> 01:31:12.199
it was done properly yes and I'll tell you why I'll tell really yes hold just

01:31:10.280 --> 01:31:18.239
hold God just calm your what' you say calm calm your what mamor can't say that

01:31:15.679 --> 01:31:21.639
really calm them Canadia hold on I'll tell you why I'll tell you why because

01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:26.239
if they do it properly and it attracts my eyes it's like looking through a

01:31:23.320 --> 01:31:30.400
window so you get that perceived uh larger larger volume of screen you get

01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:34.360
it closer to your face you get more of an angle outwards I I tested some

01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:38.920
technology like this a couple years ago where they put a MAG a magnet on your

01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:42.480
head and uh this was this was a secret research project never went anywhere but

01:31:40.440 --> 01:31:46.280
anyways it had a had a magnet on it and you moved your head around and the

01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:48.840
camera in the sensor tracked the magnet and changed the screen but it was cool

01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:54.840
because you were looking at a screen that was only about I think it was like a 20 little 20inch screen yeah and you

01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:57.199
could get closer to it and like look out and it and it tricked your brain into

01:31:56.239 --> 01:32:02.360
thinking I mean like you were looking out a window it looked like you could see this huge amazing area so if you

01:32:00.719 --> 01:32:05.440
zoomed in on a photo or something like that you could easily just tilt the

01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:10.199
phone and look around and get it closer and everything like that it'd be a really natural experience for looking it

01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:13.880
very large High detailed photography I think cool I like it if it works

01:32:12.400 --> 01:32:17.320
anywhere near half decently have you seen an eye tracking that doesn't suck

01:32:15.480 --> 01:32:20.920
yet yeah no it's not going to work we already know we know it won't it'll be like you'll turn it and it'll lag and

01:32:19.639 --> 01:32:27.560
then you'll throw up because it'll screw with your brain wrong the the Toby video that we tried to film

01:32:24.400 --> 01:32:29.920
at CES and were successful but it took

01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:34.600
very many attempts because of how not working it was um and like every ey

01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:38.239
tring technology I've ever seen not working and I fully expect this to come

01:32:36.719 --> 01:32:42.080
out and people using their phones and they're just trying to use their phones normally and then all a sudden it's just

01:32:40.320 --> 01:32:46.520
going to start tilting like crazy because it's going to start tracking on like your cat who's C on your shoulders

01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:49.800
well the problem was the only reason it was even remotely believable in the in

01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:52.840
the one that I tested was because they used this magnet because the reason why

01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:58.639
they used the magnet was because there was the least amount of leg between it it it was tracking a magnetic field

01:32:56.320 --> 01:33:03.080
basically right and so it worked very very fast very fluid but you had to be

01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:06.520
within like 10 Ines of the receiver for it to work properly so when you're

01:33:05.040 --> 01:33:09.880
dealing with cameras it's like I don't care how fast the CPU is we're a long

01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:14.040
way off from having zero leg when you have to do image processing to figure

01:33:11.440 --> 01:33:18.800
out where some so far away and combine that with the fact that the image is

01:33:15.320 --> 01:33:20.719
going to be completely rubbish because I

01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:27.040
mean you look okay you look at you look at how hard it is how much work it takes

01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:33.080
how much how much focusing on this and you know uh exposure that on an $8,000

01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:38.159
piece of equipment like what we have to get a good image out of that that would

01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:39.840
actually allow even a person to to to

01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:44.920
look at the eyes and go yeah that's exactly where they're looking now your

01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:48.719
CPU has to figure that out with like a webcam I'm honestly wondering if it's

01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:52.880
more going to be just like physical head position cuz they say eye tracking but

01:33:51.080 --> 01:33:56.880
what they're talking about seems more like if your head was over here you're

01:33:55.239 --> 01:34:00.960
probably looking in that General Direction that's going to throw me for a

01:33:58.639 --> 01:34:04.960
loop anyway no and I don't think it's going to be very good and uh yeah

01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:07.960
honestly I just I think it's I would fully expect it to be more head position

01:34:06.639 --> 01:34:12.520
than anything because they're talking about tilting icons and they're talking

01:34:10.400 --> 01:34:15.199
about other stuff which isn't super like I'm looking at the top of the screen or

01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:19.760
I'm looking at the bottom of the screen because you're probably going to want it flat there no matter what so it's I

01:34:17.639 --> 01:34:23.920
think it's honestly more my head is over here and the phone is still here so it's

01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:26.320
going to be slanted towards me this way and and look at current tracking

01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:31.440
technology right when you got things like connect and stuff like that where they're having to use multiple things

01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:34.400
like INF fored and uh you know basically a project you know infrared projection

01:34:33.040 --> 01:34:37.800
to be able to track your distance from the device it just it doesn't seem like

01:34:36.040 --> 01:34:41.639
an image contains enough information without a hell of a lot of horis sixs

01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:46.199
which that you know translates into more CPU um to figure that out and it's never

01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:49.320
going to be 100% And I think that would wig me out if I was looking at something

01:34:47.639 --> 01:34:54.360
and it just you know it just screwed up and all of a sudden just started like jittering and flipping around and trying

01:34:51.679 --> 01:34:59.000
to reorient itself I just I don't see it working I honestly don't some someone in

01:34:56.400 --> 01:35:03.560
the chat said tilting icons with a crazy face uh yeah the main things that

01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:08.040
they're showing off is like tilting icons on your home screen and

01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:11.760
perspective of buildings changing when you're in a Maps application and like

01:35:09.480 --> 01:35:15.119
we've seen stuff kind of like this like you look at like the The Parallax

01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:18.800
effects that guys like apple have on things like desktop wallpaper so you

01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:23.199
tilt your phone around and you reveal different parts of the photo and like I

01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:28.199
just don't care I I have never once enabled that because who cares it

01:35:26.280 --> 01:35:31.719
doesn't enhance my life it's like kind of neat but if I'm going to get an extra

01:35:29.679 --> 01:35:35.159
1% battery by turning it off then I'll take that instead well I remember when

01:35:33.400 --> 01:35:38.480
they enabled the Parallax on the when I got my iPhone 5 I was like oh man this

01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:43.600
is cool and honestly I haven't noticed it since I left the store I mean it was

01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:46.800
totally 100% just a gimmick I mean it's a Meg pie feature you know if I ever

01:35:45.360 --> 01:35:50.679
have to sell anything to Jerry just throw like uh Parallax and Bluetooth on

01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:57.280
the box that's all you need just got parallax blo tooth and yeah just God if

01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:58.760
we just if we sent him a box okay like I

01:35:57.280 --> 01:36:03.719
wonder I wonder if you could do this you know how actually Microsoft's a great

01:36:01.360 --> 01:36:09.920
example where you you'll have a box that basically says if you open this seal you

01:36:06.080 --> 01:36:13.400
agree to this contract this right that y

01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:16.400
okay what about this as a business model

01:36:13.400 --> 01:36:18.880
sending people boxes in the mail where

01:36:16.400 --> 01:36:24.920
if they break the seal they agree to pay for whatever's inside it interesting

01:36:22.280 --> 01:36:29.320
would it be legally would it be legally enfor not be okay I don't think oh man

01:36:27.719 --> 01:36:37.360
but you can send people junk mails so you should be able to send people that without asking so hold on a second if we

01:36:33.480 --> 01:36:39.880
sent Jerry a box that just

01:36:37.360 --> 01:36:46.760
says Parallax enabler um you know may contain stuff

01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:48.679
yeah may contain may contain Bluetooth

01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:53.320
possible traces of Bluetooth Yeah Yeah by opening this box you agree to pay

01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:58.560
$100 trapment yeah how I end up being the butt end of a social engineering

01:36:55.119 --> 01:37:01.159
experience here would you open the thing

01:36:58.560 --> 01:37:03.960
I would I dude I I'd have to I'd have to and I'd probably have to make a video

01:37:02.280 --> 01:37:07.960
about it to recoup the money that I paid you for he'd be like I might have been

01:37:05.719 --> 01:37:11.880
drunk when I ordered this let's open it up and see what it is right and then

01:37:10.360 --> 01:37:15.719
video I did I ordered a bunch of stuff and I forgot what it was the way the

01:37:13.639 --> 01:37:19.920
business model works is you build enough margin into whatever you're shipping

01:37:17.400 --> 01:37:24.080
people that you know what essentially nothing Amazon do this cuz you know how

01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:28.280
they they aren't they planning aren't they they're planning on preemptive shipment or whatever go up at your house

01:37:27.040 --> 01:37:31.639
and you just be like I don't want it it goes back are they planning that that

01:37:30.480 --> 01:37:36.920
was like a when when we were talking about the drones this was something they were talking about okay well there okay

01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:40.920
so this this goes so this is but then that's you know what it is no no so this

01:37:39.599 --> 01:37:46.119
this is a whole other this is a whole other thing this isn't like like Sundries that you're ordering on a

01:37:44.040 --> 01:37:50.199
regular basis like toner this would be like you know the the suggested items

01:37:48.440 --> 01:37:53.599
when you go on amazon.com they just start shipping you this stuff Stu so the

01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:57.080
outside of the box is just a picture of what's inside hey we thought you might

01:37:54.960 --> 01:38:01.040
like this yeah if you open it then you pay for it yeah no that's the okay oh

01:37:59.400 --> 01:38:04.679
it's the if you accept the shipment or not they're talking about they're going

01:38:02.639 --> 01:38:08.920
to try and predict stuff that you this was like a a theoretical possible in the

01:38:07.639 --> 01:38:14.119
wave future this is while the Drone stuff was going on this was the Amazon crazy time uh but they were talking

01:38:12.280 --> 01:38:17.639
about how they're going to try and use their predictive model to guess what

01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:21.239
you're going to buy and just ship it to you well there you go that's basically

01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:24.599
the same thing if you keep checking something a lot a lot a lot a lot

01:38:23.280 --> 01:38:31.639
they'll maybe just like send it to you and then it'll show up that at the door free shipping and it'll just be like

01:38:27.719 --> 01:38:34.159
well if you pay the delivery dude it's

01:38:31.639 --> 01:38:37.880
yours it's kind of interesting I it's a commitment model I I would almost I I

01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:42.440
don't want to say that I would I would do it right off the bat but if they if they were really good at the prediction

01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:45.320
if the prediction was good not like this crap where viager ADS keep popping up

01:38:44.080 --> 01:38:50.239
it's like I don't need it guys would you stop trying to sell to me but uh it's if

01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:53.639
if they could get it right and they knew what I needed like okay we know that you

01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:58.840
know Jerry goes through 15 rolls of toilet paper a day so he's going to need new toilet paper every Tuesday that

01:38:57.080 --> 01:39:01.480
would be cool if stuff just showed up and it showed up on a Cadence that

01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:06.040
actually matched how you were consuming and using it and stuff like that would be awesome actually i' I'd love that if

01:39:04.639 --> 01:39:09.000
I just came home and it's like oh man I'm almost out of milk and it's like 15

01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:13.159
minutes later there's a knock on the door and it's there or not a knock so much as a drone honking a horn or

01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:17.080
something like that you know then it drops off that I mean I think it's cool

01:39:15.719 --> 01:39:21.320
I I think it's cool and and the Drone idea I think is cool too but they just need to make them armor plated cuz all

01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:26.320
I'm going to do is buy 99 cent items then shoot the Drone down and sell the

01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:29.080
parts on eBay I mean this opens up a

01:39:26.320 --> 01:39:36.159
whole big problem though for companies that aren't Amazon that who suck at it

01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:38.440
that suck at it because if lonus Media

01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:42.360
Group was going to get into the the just sending random things to everyone a

01:39:40.440 --> 01:39:48.960
shirt it's just like yeah you probably want it yeah you probably so the idea is

01:39:45.360 --> 01:39:50.760
you would build in enough margin to into

01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:56.320
the product that whatever's Inside the Box that the idea is that you'd be able to

01:39:53.960 --> 01:40:01.199
afford whatever collection service you need to be able to send after these

01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:03.840
people and you just turn this into like

01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:08.000
pounding pounding people until they pay and then anyone who pays you send them

01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:11.239
more and more stuff I I think the idea with the Amazon one was you'd have to

01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:16.719
pay when it showed up at the door right cood that's even SM it was all it wasn't

01:40:14.080 --> 01:40:20.520
like uh you pay this later or brilliant cood love it or your credit card's

01:40:18.480 --> 01:40:24.480
hooked up to Amazon so if you accept the shipment just goes Boop and just takes

01:40:22.280 --> 01:40:28.199
it the problem is that plays on people's curiosity really bad

01:40:26.280 --> 01:40:30.480
right shows up my door I'm going to be like I want to know what's in the box

01:40:29.320 --> 01:40:34.040
what's in the boxes not hide what it no that's my

01:40:32.639 --> 01:40:38.840
model is where we hide what's inside this lus is crazy scammy not okay going

01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:42.800
to go to jail model Amazon's actual model is like this is what it is do you

01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:47.520
want it if you want it right now you can pay for it if not you can I don't know that mine's illegal I'm pretty sure I

01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:51.520
don't think it's illegal illegal but I'm guessing your model is going to be somewhere along the lines of if you want

01:40:49.599 --> 01:40:57.360
to see what's inside the Box pay $4 9.95 and they going to open up it's going to be like a box of half eaten Cracker

01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:59.159
Jacks yeah yeah well that's what your

01:40:57.360 --> 01:41:03.119
box would have in it someone else's box might contain

01:41:00.599 --> 01:41:07.400
candy L's box will be full of like the coupons that showed up in the mail the

01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:11.760
previous week be like here I don't want these this is technically garbage those

01:41:09.320 --> 01:41:16.119
are really good coupons hey let's start experiment two for one Let's do let's do

01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:20.400
a give let's start off with a giveaway where we send a box to somebody and then once they accept the Box there's another

01:41:19.080 --> 01:41:26.280
box inside of it with an address that they then have to send it to A&W coupons

01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:28.880
are a great deal yeah it it'll be like one of those Russian doll things you

01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:35.000
know we'll just get like 30 boxes together send it the first guy and see who receives the last box yeah it'll be

01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:39.000
awesome all right I think we've got like one or two more topics that we actually

01:41:37.080 --> 01:41:45.480
need to do before we end the show here so uh I'm I'm going to get on that uh

01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:48.360
twitch is now funding and

01:41:45.480 --> 01:41:53.400
selling games I actually didn't even read this article so hopefully you did

01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:56.199
yeah nope oh um well there we go posted

01:41:53.400 --> 01:42:00.119
on the Forum by caca DJ look guys what I know I know I know a few things it's my

01:41:58.040 --> 01:42:04.920
day off so it was posted originally on kit Guru uh twitch has started funding

01:42:02.480 --> 01:42:08.440
games after the success of Twitch Plays a title called choice chamber emerged it

01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:13.719
plans to use player interaction through twitch and Advance the story via voting

01:42:11.679 --> 01:42:17.080
so there you go anyways they needed 30,000 and it seemed they wouldn't reach

01:42:15.639 --> 01:42:22.480
it so twitch stepped in and covered the rest of it which is around 15 grand so

01:42:20.320 --> 01:42:25.520
twitch does make a butt ton of money on things like Twitch Plays just because of

01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:30.599
all the viewers that are watching it and watching Dem ad Impressions so this

01:42:28.440 --> 01:42:33.960
makes a ton of sense for them is there anything else really yeah no that's

01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:38.760
that's pretty much it and they're in such a great position to do this they

01:42:36.320 --> 01:42:43.480
really are like so many people that are actively wanting and trying to oh my God

01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:49.760
what a pain okay guys we're back we're really sorry about that um Sorry's fault

01:42:47.760 --> 01:42:53.800
it's all sorry everyone sorry why do we even locally

01:42:52.040 --> 01:42:58.320
record I guess there's a good reason because of what just happened never mind

01:42:55.560 --> 01:43:03.920
yeah whoa the chat is flying yeah people are people are raising all the dongers

01:43:00.480 --> 01:43:07.400
in upset um okay so anyway I guess that

01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:10.840
was it for that topic sorry everyone uh

01:43:07.400 --> 01:43:14.599
last topic today why you might not want

01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:17.119
yeah it was $50 a $50 Project

01:43:14.599 --> 01:43:21.280
Ara so I think we actually kind of talked about this already but anyway the

01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:24.480
original article was on slashgear and the idea is that even though Project

01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:28.400
R looks really cool there's going to be a few different sizes it's going to be

01:43:26.360 --> 01:43:33.480
super affordable check this out this is a prototype right here that actually has

01:43:31.280 --> 01:43:41.560
like spots for modules to kind of slide into the idea is that it is going to be

01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:44.199
so basic at least out of the box that

01:43:41.560 --> 01:43:47.760
probably phone enthusiasts will give exactly zero cares about it at least at

01:43:46.040 --> 01:43:52.679
the beginning we knew this though we knew this but there you go

01:43:53.040 --> 01:43:59.440
um oh okay sorry I was catching up with you guys so that's that's the okay the

01:43:56.840 --> 01:44:02.560
modular smartphone design actually I I would I'd buy one just to Tinker with it

01:44:01.080 --> 01:44:06.360
you know just be just being a developer I just want to play around with the platform unfortunately probably not that

01:44:05.239 --> 01:44:11.599
much tinkering though because if you look at it it's like this is the CPU

01:44:08.480 --> 01:44:15.080
slot which you can only have one exact

01:44:11.599 --> 01:44:17.400
size for so tinkering is going to be at

01:44:15.080 --> 01:44:21.880
almost the same level as like unplugging and plugging in a

01:44:18.719 --> 01:44:24.280
USB oh screw that I'm out turn off turn

01:44:21.880 --> 01:44:28.280
off the phone Slide the thing Slide the thing turn on the

01:44:26.080 --> 01:44:31.920
phone how much are they predicting this device will be like I mean comparably

01:44:30.360 --> 01:44:35.199
equipped to like you know today's smartphone like I don't just want a CPU

01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:39.560
block I obviously want like a camera and I want storage yeah yeah yeah there's

01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:43.719
all those things too but it's the the the thing that I wasn't super stoked on

01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:47.760
was the phone blocks idea if you paid a lot of attention to the phone blocks

01:44:45.040 --> 01:44:51.040
idea the size of the blocks changed because he was like oh well you can

01:44:49.599 --> 01:44:55.360
increase performance in this way like say you want a way better camera you can

01:44:53.239 --> 01:45:03.159
change the size and type and style of the blocks with actual Project Ara it's

01:44:59.040 --> 01:45:04.679
predefined size slots right oh okay so

01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:10.639
so there's there's a big limitation on what you can thicker but not maybe if

01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:13.040
you look at the way it rails in it might not even be able to be made thi and the

01:45:12.040 --> 01:45:17.880
another thing is if I put this thing in my pocket is it going to just come out as like a pile of blocks every time I

01:45:16.040 --> 01:45:22.800
reach in there to try to answer my phone like just I I don't sounds like mycket

01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:29.119
I don't want to be like talking on the phone or something I bump something like freaking CPU block flies out of it like

01:45:26.480 --> 01:45:32.400
I don't know it's Google the first iteration will probably suck and then

01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:35.480
the second iteration will be okay and then the third iteration will be really

01:45:34.159 --> 01:45:40.840
good it ever comes out it'll be like Google car yeah all right well I think

01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:44.159
we got to go just because I know you have to go I definitely have to go know

01:45:42.920 --> 01:45:48.599
if I'm going to be able to go and Barnacle doesn't seem to have anywhere to go thank you for joining us today

01:45:47.360 --> 01:45:54.639
though Jerry do you want to just do a quick plug for your channel tell people where they can find you if they think

01:45:51.560 --> 01:45:55.760
you're interesting and attractive sure

01:45:54.639 --> 01:46:00.599
well everybody think come on everybody thinks I'm attractive anyways I'm Barnacles nerdgasm otherwise known as

01:45:58.800 --> 01:46:04.159
Jerry Berg you can come and find me over at Barn nerd.com that'll just redirect

01:46:03.040 --> 01:46:07.599
you over to YouTube because I don't have a fancy site yet but I will and come

01:46:06.599 --> 01:46:12.800
check me out because I do videos on absolutely everything and tonight I'm going to do something cool with a toilet

01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:17.480
plunger and some Vaseline you won't want to miss it

01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:22.199
wow it's not what you think though how do you know what I'm thinking

01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:25.719
you you're you're Canadian I know what you're thinking I was I was thinking

01:46:24.599 --> 01:46:30.719
chopping down trees B yes

01:46:28.280 --> 01:46:34.040
always it's the only thing we ever think yeah H but anyways guys come over and

01:46:32.480 --> 01:46:39.719
follow me on Twitter to I'm at Barnacles I'm trying to get more people over there because I love talking to all of you so

01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:45.800
fun just ask lus I'm a loud mouth on there i' like I I tweet like every 15

01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:47.560
and a half seconds sometimes you Timmy

01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:52.400
you you and Timmy like I just go to my Twitter and then it's like barnon C and

01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:52.400
Timmy Barn CLE and Timmy

01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:59.560
like what happened then there'll be like actually

01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:02.119
10 different people at tagged on the message and I was like I can't even

01:47:00.639 --> 01:47:07.320
reply to this because there's like 20 characters left he got he got so mad that I was on

01:47:05.639 --> 01:47:13.560
here tonight he's like what why am I not on there I was like well Timmy you're not as good looking as me I'm just

01:47:09.719 --> 01:47:16.440
saying you know snap wow that sells

01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:19.880
Squarespace right there see look at that all right guys thank you very much for

01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:24.119
watching we will see you again next week same back Time same that channel thanks

01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:28.000
again Jerry for joining us and uh peace out guys enjoy your Easter weekend bye

01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:41.800
everybody oh yeah there's no music so this is like super stupid to watch and

01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:46.960
that microphone muted one yeah it just muts us whatever okay

01:47:45.440 --> 01:47:51.639
lineus Tech tips make sure you watch it it's really good also Squarespace make

01:47:49.679 --> 01:47:56.199
sure you do that websites and stuff websites I don't think I don't think the

01:47:53.400 --> 01:48:01.320
sponsors watch this part so like yeah notebooks lap tizzle R lap lap tizzle to

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my dizzle