WEBVTT 00:00:00.060 --> 00:00:06.540 I didn't think you'd do it LG I thought you just killed the gram lineup you made 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:12.719 some fantastic laptops me and I just went around to everyone at like CES 2018 00:00:08.639 --> 00:00:13.980 and we're like LG has that good good I 00:00:12.719 --> 00:00:18.300 know they just did nothing they did nothing for years until now they've 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:22.380 finally updated the LG grams I have three and a half of them here let's see 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:27.720 if they're any good now let's start this off with the stupid thing here uh this 00:00:25.500 --> 00:00:32.880 is the LG Gram Plus view I'm not entirely sure what this is okay we 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:35.899 appear to have a calendar be green with grand I think this is just an external 00:00:35.100 --> 00:00:42.360 display yes one second I need to build this one 00:00:42.420 --> 00:00:49.260 uh okay so this is something that exists now it's a little cardboard pencil 00:00:46.860 --> 00:00:53.700 holder also with our external display we get what looks like a very nice C to C 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:59.699 cable yes B green with LG we only have what 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:04.739 like a hundred pages of paper also in here 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:09.000 so I'm thinking Andy what we do is we open three of them decide which one's 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:13.860 the best and then focus on that one sure sound good cool all right so what do we 00:01:11.580 --> 00:01:18.000 have here oh my God we can have so many pen 00:01:15.780 --> 00:01:22.020 holders holy frick what else do we have in here 00:01:19.380 --> 00:01:25.380 oh here's the two in one I'm excited about this one right here because I 00:01:23.220 --> 00:01:29.460 believe it's the only LG gram you can get now that has a touch screen and I 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:35.579 really like touch screens they have a type c to HDMI adapter oh 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:39.360 okay that that is because there's no HDMI port on 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:44.340 this guy I thought that there was but I guess it's only on the other models sup 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:46.799 Jonathan oh wow it's a g-RAM 00:01:44.340 --> 00:01:50.240 oh wow it's a laptop that will actually work with external displays 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:57.000 this is built in that's exactly what I want I switched to uh the MacBook 16 and 00:01:55.079 --> 00:02:02.460 I'm going to stop using it because it's support for external displays is the 00:01:59.759 --> 00:02:06.659 support for his external display yes Apple users always blame it on the other 00:02:04.740 --> 00:02:11.039 thing and not the fact that they have a terribly implanted GPU this is 00:02:08.399 --> 00:02:16.680 interesting what's this these are handy to have yeah oh except 00:02:13.739 --> 00:02:22.140 there's a HDMI cable built it it's fine the two in one also comes with 00:02:18.900 --> 00:02:25.500 a stylus take that Apple okay so there's 00:02:22.140 --> 00:02:28.200 the two in one looks nice here we have I 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:33.900 think this is a 16 inch 45 Watts over USBC 45 Watts so these are not super 00:02:30.540 --> 00:02:36.360 powerful this must be the 17 inch oh my 00:02:33.900 --> 00:02:41.879 God I have so many boxes also has 45 watt USB type-c charger so probably no 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:46.560 GPU which one do we want to use Andy two in one it's pretty clear here that the 00:02:43.980 --> 00:02:50.580 two in one is the one that looks by far the coolest and also it does two in one 00:02:49.260 --> 00:02:56.120 things there's one thing that I remember about LG grams it's they're floppy as 00:02:53.099 --> 00:02:59.099 all heck and look at that geez Louise 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:04.500 here is the although not at all comparable price wise app laptop yep 00:03:02.040 --> 00:03:11.599 nothing not moving at all let's see does that improve at all on this guy 00:03:07.860 --> 00:03:11.599 nope oh 00:03:11.780 --> 00:03:18.120 is the two in one any better probably 00:03:15.239 --> 00:03:23.879 not it is this is still pretty bad honestly but it's not intolerable like 00:03:21.239 --> 00:03:29.099 the other two how how do we do this Andy with Keel first we peel first okay we 00:03:26.940 --> 00:03:33.680 can throw my mouth oh my God remove the peel otherwise maybe fire 00:03:35.659 --> 00:03:41.940 that was a strange feel here we have the 00:03:38.700 --> 00:03:44.760 LG gram two in one 00:03:41.940 --> 00:03:51.420 it looks like a good laptop so on this side we have two Thunderbolt 4 ports 00:03:47.640 --> 00:03:55.560 around here we get a USB type a love to 00:03:51.420 --> 00:03:57.060 see it a is that the power 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:01.140 I'm not entirely sure what that is maybe that puts your computer to sleep and 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:05.340 also a mini SD card reader I really wish that the SD card reader was full sized 00:04:03.180 --> 00:04:09.180 but it is not oh well since we have them here I'm going to 00:04:06.900 --> 00:04:15.120 briefly go over the i o of the other two it's the same on the 15 and the 17. we 00:04:12.959 --> 00:04:18.600 have our micro SD card reader right here again wish that it's full size but this 00:04:16.919 --> 00:04:23.100 more than makes up for it we also have two USB type A's heck yeah Kensington 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:28.800 block around the other side full size HDMI we 00:04:26.340 --> 00:04:34.979 also have dual Thunderbolts and a headphone combo now one of the very 00:04:31.919 --> 00:04:37.320 large differences between 00:04:34.979 --> 00:04:44.100 the touch and non-touch versions of the gram is the display and how shiny it is 00:04:41.280 --> 00:04:49.139 on the non-touch model we have a matte display and on the two in one that has 00:04:46.380 --> 00:04:54.000 touch it is nice and shiny this one's shining out of light right now let's try 00:04:50.580 --> 00:04:56.520 and get that same light there that's a 00:04:54.000 --> 00:05:01.320 that's a pretty big difference in how much you can see this light just in the 00:04:59.699 --> 00:05:06.560 screen I was going to segue to our sponsor but we need to discuss something 00:05:02.699 --> 00:05:06.560 for a second here watch this Andy 00:05:07.080 --> 00:05:13.020 oh my God that's bad that's some of the 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:19.139 worst fingerprint magneting I have seen in ages good God that's terrible but you 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:23.100 know what's not terrible messy Footwear messy Footwear is known for being 00:05:20.880 --> 00:05:26.759 lightweight easy to pack comfortable and most importantly water resistant with 00:05:24.780 --> 00:05:30.660 its dimetex technology their everyday move lineup is made to keep up with your 00:05:28.860 --> 00:05:34.740 active lifestyle with its added support at the midsole and better breathability 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:38.580 it also has a pull tab to make putting them on and taking them off super easy 00:05:36.539 --> 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really 00:06:21.660 --> 00:06:30.600 terrible though are the keys so if you look very closely the control key and 00:06:27.660 --> 00:06:34.919 the left key right here are super far down it's like below the metal of the 00:06:32.520 --> 00:06:39.419 chassis same with a question mark it's like sideways that should not make it 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:43.500 through quality control LG you should see this laptop on your production line 00:06:41.580 --> 00:06:46.860 and be like anyway let's actually use this first 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:51.720 thing that I'm noticing the screen is very wobbly you touch it here and it 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:55.620 just starts wibbly wobbling I wonder if that is improved if you don't have a 00:06:54.120 --> 00:07:01.800 desk pad hmm okay yes this is substantially better 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:05.699 now that's not on a desk pad so uh I think I'm just gonna 00:07:03.419 --> 00:07:09.180 not use this for the time being just to be you know nice and fair to this the 00:07:07.919 --> 00:07:15.840 first thing I'm noticing is that this trackpad is great I believe it is glass 00:07:12.900 --> 00:07:21.120 topped it's a little bit hard to tell here but it is not hard to tell with the 00:07:18.539 --> 00:07:24.960 other ones so like here you're able to pretty easily see if you look at it from 00:07:22.860 --> 00:07:29.039 an angle there can you see that Andy so I'm guessing it's the same here on 00:07:27.060 --> 00:07:34.800 the two in one given that this is the more expensive more premium version so 00:07:31.919 --> 00:07:39.780 this keyboard like on the home row feels amazing this is an excellent keyboard 00:07:36.960 --> 00:07:45.419 that I have right here the problem is that as I press different Keys some of 00:07:42.780 --> 00:07:49.620 them are terrible like you the U key for whatever reason just feels completely 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:53.880 different to all of the other ones that are around it it's slightly lower in the 00:07:52.020 --> 00:07:58.680 chassis as well like this corner right here is lower down than the ones around 00:07:56.940 --> 00:08:04.699 it I don't know if you're going to be able to hear this but like here is J J 00:08:01.620 --> 00:08:04.699 is a good feeling key 00:08:04.860 --> 00:08:10.039 that's fine here is comma which feels terrible 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:20.580 I don't know if you can tell the difference just based off of that but it has a totally different feel and a 00:08:17.699 --> 00:08:26.039 totally different sound even this is so terrible that I think it's broken this 00:08:23.039 --> 00:08:28.919 laptop is I think it starts at fifteen 00:08:26.039 --> 00:08:34.080 hundred dollars and this one as spect I think is 21 not acceptable to have a 00:08:31.860 --> 00:08:37.860 keyboard that is this we're gonna look at the other one briefly here to see if 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:40.800 it happens on the other ones the problem though 00:08:39.060 --> 00:08:46.399 is that it's really hard to judge the force when you have this much flex but 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.399 let's just go here 00:08:48.300 --> 00:08:52.800 nope same thing terrible awful at least 00:08:51.420 --> 00:08:59.279 this one right here all the keys are like properly up above the chassis but ah we 00:08:57.959 --> 00:09:02.880 really need to break out our keyboard tester for these guys because it's just 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.300 not acceptable like the variants in these keys 00:09:08.040 --> 00:09:14.580 so this keyboard is way better this is this is not a big keyboard I'd happily 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:19.740 tip in it okay okay I'm glad I got a second opinion uh maybe I was just being 00:09:17.339 --> 00:09:25.200 a little bit too harsh future Alex here I wanted to verify that the keyboard on 00:09:22.140 --> 00:09:27.959 the LG gram actually was terrible and 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:33.300 not just me subjectively not liking it it feels nice it turns out I was right 00:09:30.660 --> 00:09:39.240 wow so the keyboard on this we chucked it on the keyboard tester uh we found a 00:09:35.580 --> 00:09:40.980 variance of over seven grams in the 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:45.600 amount of force required to press the key so that's an over 10 percent 00:09:42.660 --> 00:09:51.300 variance compared to about one gram for the XPS 15 which means objectively I'm 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:55.500 right this keyboard's trash I'm really disappointed Andy okay let's go over the 00:09:53.700 --> 00:09:59.820 good things of this laptop even though you should not buy it the screen on this 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:05.279 is excellent it's an IPS display black levels are great it gets bright enough I 00:10:02.339 --> 00:10:09.120 think this one right here is 350 in its peak brightness 00:10:06.899 --> 00:10:14.100 same with the matte display on the other one it's not quite as vibrant like if we 00:10:11.640 --> 00:10:19.920 look at the same background here the Mac display is just not as vibrant as the 00:10:17.339 --> 00:10:25.440 glossy display which is just a fact of how these displays work they're both 16 00:10:21.899 --> 00:10:29.220 by 10 I believe they're Quad HD so the 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:31.620 resolution is 2560 by 1600 which is just 00:10:29.220 --> 00:10:35.940 the absolute perfect resolution for a laptop like this at 4K you're wasting 00:10:34.140 --> 00:10:41.459 battery life and wasting computational power to just have more pixels than you 00:10:39.180 --> 00:10:44.660 need like this right here in order to see a pixel I need to be 00:10:44.700 --> 00:10:49.500 here or so something like that these 00:10:47.940 --> 00:10:53.820 even have ai built into them so they will get mad at you if you're that close 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:57.660 to your laptop oh also there's 16 by 10 16 by 10 just 00:10:55.680 --> 00:11:02.640 so much better than 16x9 for productivity love to see it good job LG 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:06.440 guessing between these two the speakers are the same but I could be wrong 00:11:08.420 --> 00:11:11.779 oh that's bad 00:11:12.060 --> 00:11:17.469 huh 00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:24.779 so I feel like they are the exact same speakers as far as Hardware goes but it 00:11:23.100 --> 00:11:29.040 does sound a lot better in the non two-in-one version this one right here 00:11:26.940 --> 00:11:33.779 feels kind of crushed and like there's like some Distortion or something yeah 00:11:31.079 --> 00:11:38.240 so at about 70 volume it starts sounding way better I'm guessing that's even more 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.240 pronounced here 00:11:40.380 --> 00:11:47.399 yeah so the Distortion goes away at about like 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:52.920 60 volume or so like that's perfectly acceptable now 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:56.779 that's just for comparison have a little look at what it would be like if you had 00:11:54.839 --> 00:12:00.440 a MacBook here's LG Graham 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:13.140 yeah that's uh that's 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:17.940 not close at all wow um 00:12:14.940 --> 00:12:19.560 now In fairness uh I don't know where I 00:12:17.940 --> 00:12:24.600 was going with that these are all 16 17 inch laptops LG doesn't really 00:12:22.500 --> 00:12:30.180 have an excuse they have a numpad you get a numpad here 00:12:25.980 --> 00:12:32.760 so if you have no ears and we do a lot 00:12:30.180 --> 00:12:39.180 of spreadsheets the LG grams your laptop I am very curious if LG is doing like a 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:44.700 vibrant display mode because it looks way too saturated also the brightness is 00:12:41.820 --> 00:12:49.560 not even comparable the apple looks so much more real to life than the LG just 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:52.920 from like a contrast and detail that you can see perspective to be clear you 00:12:51.420 --> 00:12:57.839 might be able to see more details on this from the camera but that's because 00:12:55.200 --> 00:13:01.440 this is just way more brighter and the camera might not be exposing quite 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:05.820 correctly I don't know how much I trust my eyes it's sort of thing where LTT 00:13:03.060 --> 00:13:11.940 Labs very soon will be giving us proper data on displays and I'll just be able 00:13:08.339 --> 00:13:15.060 to tell you like okay it misses by a 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:16.920 Delta e of five or something I do not 00:13:15.060 --> 00:13:20.880 want to confidently say that this is inaccurate 00:13:18.959 --> 00:13:24.079 actually that's exactly when we say it's not a super accurate display I'm so 00:13:22.920 --> 00:13:30.540 disappointed twenty one hundred dollars 00:13:26.779 --> 00:13:32.339 oh yeah us oh my God 00:13:30.540 --> 00:13:37.139 so we can get this one that we have down here that we haven't really talked about 00:13:33.540 --> 00:13:40.800 so the 16 inch with an i5 and this does 00:13:37.139 --> 00:13:43.260 have the 1440p or 1600p display this 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:49.680 one's sixteen hundred dollars no GPU 16 gigabytes of RAM half a 00:13:46.380 --> 00:13:51.420 terabyte SSD oh okay before we comment 00:13:49.680 --> 00:13:58.079 too much on the price we need to go over the specs in detail so again i7 12 600p 00:13:55.200 --> 00:14:02.279 which is a fantastic processor but you only get four performance cores and 00:14:00.180 --> 00:14:06.600 eight efficiency cores now pretty hard to complain about having 12 00:14:04.260 --> 00:14:12.420 cores in a laptop but at the same time this is pretty expensive 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:14.420 so if we look at the XPS 15 00:14:12.420 --> 00:14:22.920 . Andy say it this laptop's stupid 00:14:19.920 --> 00:14:25.820 so this laptop as spect 00:14:22.920 --> 00:14:32.399 is twenty one hundred dollars for two thousand fifty dollars you can 00:14:29.220 --> 00:14:34.079 get a Dell XPS 15 which is just it has a 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:39.540 way better keyboard it has a better screen because you're getting the 4K 00:14:36.420 --> 00:14:41.100 OLED that is one of the best on the 00:14:39.540 --> 00:14:45.779 market you're getting 16 gigabytes of RAM as well that is replaceable and 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:50.880 upgradable in the future you can RTX 3050 TI which I should not have to tell 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:55.440 you wipes the floor with Iris XE Graphics it's just a better laptop plain 00:14:53.880 --> 00:14:59.040 and simple uh geez we haven't said that in a while and 00:14:57.660 --> 00:15:04.199 just came out and been like this is worse future Alex again there's a saying 00:15:01.860 --> 00:15:08.699 there's no bad products only bad pricing and that is of course the fact here but 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:13.620 the pricing will get better on this for a day on Black Friday the two-in-one is 00:15:10.920 --> 00:15:20.220 going to be 500 off and the other ones will be 450 off which makes them sort of 00:15:17.459 --> 00:15:25.079 competitive unless like hp's Envy two in one or the surface laptop 5 or the Dell 00:15:22.860 --> 00:15:29.699 XPS or basically any other laptop also goes on sale that day so uh check it out 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:35.639 then okay so what might be better about this uh we have a full HD webcam here we 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:41.459 go we have a full HD webcam in this right here I look very Orange 00:15:38.760 --> 00:15:44.940 uh that isn't quite accurate to how I look in real life but at the same time 00:15:43.019 --> 00:15:49.920 this is perfectly acceptable for a webcam cargo we have a full HD webcam 00:15:47.699 --> 00:15:55.079 it's terrible one Saving Grace here is the battery we 00:15:53.220 --> 00:15:59.880 have an 80 watt hour battery which is nothing too crazy the XPS 15 has an 87 00:15:57.959 --> 00:16:03.600 watt hour battery but when you combine that with the fact that this thing is 00:16:01.380 --> 00:16:08.519 not very powerful you can get some serious battery life out of it should we 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:12.600 rip it open Andy yeah see see what's on the inside 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:14.880 well here's the problem you can't access 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:19.680 the inside of the gram relatively easily but doing so means that you need to 00:16:16.920 --> 00:16:24.899 remove these feet and you also have to remove these little plastic chummies 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:29.339 I'm just annoyed there's just so much wasted space in 00:16:26.699 --> 00:16:35.339 here it's very clear that they designed a main board and stuff for like a 14 00:16:32.339 --> 00:16:37.920 inch laptop and just reused it across 00:16:35.339 --> 00:16:42.360 their entire lineup you are able to upgrade the storage so we have two SSD 00:16:40.079 --> 00:16:48.259 spots right here awesome love to see that cooling's pretty anemic single heat 00:16:45.420 --> 00:16:54.480 pipe single fan really little heatsink Andy what do we even say the LG gram it 00:16:51.899 --> 00:17:00.000 used to be fantastic because uh even though it was not super well built it 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:05.360 was very light had long battery life and was cheap when you take out the it being 00:17:03.300 --> 00:17:11.339 cheap part I don't know what to say you just have a 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:13.799 laptop that is worse for more money so 00:17:11.339 --> 00:17:18.780 the LG gram if you're able to find one on sale as I think I've seen some of the 00:17:16.260 --> 00:17:23.819 new ones already are then maybe it's great if it's not on sale don't buy it 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:27.480 oh wait also we have an external display um I forgot about it because I was too 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:32.220 busy on this product um this is a matte display very much 00:17:29.580 --> 00:17:38.039 like the one that we have on the non two in one LG grams okay so we'll throw LG a 00:17:35.580 --> 00:17:44.940 bone here their external display is quite good so it's the same 1600p panel 00:17:42.059 --> 00:17:53.039 that we got in in all of these it's matte it looks fantastic 99 DCI P3 I 00:17:49.679 --> 00:17:55.200 like it it's a 350 I don't know enough 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:59.039 about portable monitors to say if that's good or not but I can say that if you 00:17:57.780 --> 00:18:02.940 just want something you can throw in your backpack 00:18:00.840 --> 00:18:07.380 this seems really not all that bad so if you like this video uh you definitely 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.679 don't work for LG hit like get subscribe and 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:15.310 just have a fantastic day see you later