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I didn't think you'd do it LG I thought you just killed the gram lineup you made

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some fantastic laptops me and I just went around to everyone at like CES 2018

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and we're like LG has that good good I

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know they just did nothing they did nothing for years until now they've

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finally updated the LG grams I have three and a half of them here let's see

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if they're any good now let's start this off with the stupid thing here uh this

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is the LG Gram Plus view I'm not entirely sure what this is okay we

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appear to have a calendar be green with grand I think this is just an external

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display yes one second I need to build this one

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uh okay so this is something that exists now it's a little cardboard pencil

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holder also with our external display we get what looks like a very nice C to C

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cable yes B green with LG we only have what

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like a hundred pages of paper also in here

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so I'm thinking Andy what we do is we open three of them decide which one's

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the best and then focus on that one sure sound good cool all right so what do we

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have here oh my God we can have so many pen

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holders holy frick what else do we have in here

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oh here's the two in one I'm excited about this one right here because I

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believe it's the only LG gram you can get now that has a touch screen and I

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really like touch screens they have a type c to HDMI adapter oh

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okay that that is because there's no HDMI port on

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this guy I thought that there was but I guess it's only on the other models sup

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Jonathan oh wow it's a g-RAM

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oh wow it's a laptop that will actually work with external displays

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this is built in that's exactly what I want I switched to uh the MacBook 16 and

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I'm going to stop using it because it's support for external displays is the

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support for his external display yes Apple users always blame it on the other

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thing and not the fact that they have a terribly implanted GPU this is

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interesting what's this these are handy to have yeah oh except

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there's a HDMI cable built it it's fine the two in one also comes with

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a stylus take that Apple okay so there's

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the two in one looks nice here we have I

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think this is a 16 inch 45 Watts over USBC 45 Watts so these are not super

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powerful this must be the 17 inch oh my

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God I have so many boxes also has 45 watt USB type-c charger so probably no

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GPU which one do we want to use Andy two in one it's pretty clear here that the

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two in one is the one that looks by far the coolest and also it does two in one

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things there's one thing that I remember about LG grams it's they're floppy as

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all heck and look at that geez Louise

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here is the although not at all comparable price wise app laptop yep

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nothing not moving at all let's see does that improve at all on this guy

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nope oh

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is the two in one any better probably

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not it is this is still pretty bad honestly but it's not intolerable like

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the other two how how do we do this Andy with Keel first we peel first okay we

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can throw my mouth oh my God remove the peel otherwise maybe fire

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that was a strange feel here we have the

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LG gram two in one

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it looks like a good laptop so on this side we have two Thunderbolt 4 ports

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around here we get a USB type a love to

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see it a is that the power

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I'm not entirely sure what that is maybe that puts your computer to sleep and

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also a mini SD card reader I really wish that the SD card reader was full sized

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but it is not oh well since we have them here I'm going to

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briefly go over the i o of the other two it's the same on the 15 and the 17. we

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have our micro SD card reader right here again wish that it's full size but this

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more than makes up for it we also have two USB type A's heck yeah Kensington

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block around the other side full size HDMI we

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also have dual Thunderbolts and a headphone combo now one of the very

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large differences between

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the touch and non-touch versions of the gram is the display and how shiny it is

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on the non-touch model we have a matte display and on the two in one that has

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touch it is nice and shiny this one's shining out of light right now let's try

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and get that same light there that's a

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that's a pretty big difference in how much you can see this light just in the

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screen I was going to segue to our sponsor but we need to discuss something

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for a second here watch this Andy

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oh my God that's bad that's some of the

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okay let's let's turn one on turn them off so two in one we're going to the two

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oh my God okay Andy can we get a microfiber cloth I actually can't use

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this right now oh and it's difficult to get them off

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too jeez that's on there forever now oh

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my God it looked so good before

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anyway let's turn it on I really wanted to like this but before

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I even turn it on I'm seeing some issues that are kind of hard to ignore here

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yeah there's like a bulge that's not so bad I could ignore that what's really

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terrible though are the keys so if you look very closely the control key and

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the left key right here are super far down it's like below the metal of the

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chassis same with a question mark it's like sideways that should not make it

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through quality control LG you should see this laptop on your production line

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and be like anyway let's actually use this first

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thing that I'm noticing the screen is very wobbly you touch it here and it

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just starts wibbly wobbling I wonder if that is improved if you don't have a

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desk pad hmm okay yes this is substantially better

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now that's not on a desk pad so uh I think I'm just gonna

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not use this for the time being just to be you know nice and fair to this the

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first thing I'm noticing is that this trackpad is great I believe it is glass

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topped it's a little bit hard to tell here but it is not hard to tell with the

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other ones so like here you're able to pretty easily see if you look at it from

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an angle there can you see that Andy so I'm guessing it's the same here on

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the two in one given that this is the more expensive more premium version so

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this keyboard like on the home row feels amazing this is an excellent keyboard

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that I have right here the problem is that as I press different Keys some of

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them are terrible like you the U key for whatever reason just feels completely

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different to all of the other ones that are around it it's slightly lower in the

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chassis as well like this corner right here is lower down than the ones around

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it I don't know if you're going to be able to hear this but like here is J J

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is a good feeling key

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that's fine here is comma which feels terrible

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I don't know if you can tell the difference just based off of that but it has a totally different feel and a

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totally different sound even this is so terrible that I think it's broken this

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laptop is I think it starts at fifteen

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hundred dollars and this one as spect I think is 21 not acceptable to have a

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keyboard that is this we're gonna look at the other one briefly here to see if

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it happens on the other ones the problem though

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is that it's really hard to judge the force when you have this much flex but

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let's just go here

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nope same thing terrible awful at least

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this one right here all the keys are like properly up above the chassis but ah we

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really need to break out our keyboard tester for these guys because it's just

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not acceptable like the variants in these keys

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so this keyboard is way better this is this is not a big keyboard I'd happily

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tip in it okay okay I'm glad I got a second opinion uh maybe I was just being

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a little bit too harsh future Alex here I wanted to verify that the keyboard on

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the LG gram actually was terrible and

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not just me subjectively not liking it it feels nice it turns out I was right

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wow so the keyboard on this we chucked it on the keyboard tester uh we found a

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variance of over seven grams in the

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amount of force required to press the key so that's an over 10 percent

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variance compared to about one gram for the XPS 15 which means objectively I'm

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right this keyboard's trash I'm really disappointed Andy okay let's go over the

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good things of this laptop even though you should not buy it the screen on this

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is excellent it's an IPS display black levels are great it gets bright enough I

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think this one right here is 350 in its peak brightness

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same with the matte display on the other one it's not quite as vibrant like if we

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look at the same background here the Mac display is just not as vibrant as the

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glossy display which is just a fact of how these displays work they're both 16

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by 10 I believe they're Quad HD so the

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resolution is 2560 by 1600 which is just

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the absolute perfect resolution for a laptop like this at 4K you're wasting

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battery life and wasting computational power to just have more pixels than you

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need like this right here in order to see a pixel I need to be

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here or so something like that these

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even have ai built into them so they will get mad at you if you're that close

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to your laptop oh also there's 16 by 10 16 by 10 just

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so much better than 16x9 for productivity love to see it good job LG

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guessing between these two the speakers are the same but I could be wrong

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oh that's bad

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so I feel like they are the exact same speakers as far as Hardware goes but it

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does sound a lot better in the non two-in-one version this one right here

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feels kind of crushed and like there's like some Distortion or something yeah

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so at about 70 volume it starts sounding way better I'm guessing that's even more

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pronounced here

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yeah so the Distortion goes away at about like

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60 volume or so like that's perfectly acceptable now

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that's just for comparison have a little look at what it would be like if you had

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a MacBook here's LG Graham

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not close at all wow um

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now In fairness uh I don't know where I

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was going with that these are all 16 17 inch laptops LG doesn't really

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have an excuse they have a numpad you get a numpad here

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so if you have no ears and we do a lot

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of spreadsheets the LG grams your laptop I am very curious if LG is doing like a

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vibrant display mode because it looks way too saturated also the brightness is

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not even comparable the apple looks so much more real to life than the LG just

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from like a contrast and detail that you can see perspective to be clear you

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might be able to see more details on this from the camera but that's because

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this is just way more brighter and the camera might not be exposing quite

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correctly I don't know how much I trust my eyes it's sort of thing where LTT

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Labs very soon will be giving us proper data on displays and I'll just be able

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to tell you like okay it misses by a

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Delta e of five or something I do not

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want to confidently say that this is inaccurate

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actually that's exactly when we say it's not a super accurate display I'm so

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disappointed twenty one hundred dollars

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oh yeah us oh my God

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so we can get this one that we have down here that we haven't really talked about

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so the 16 inch with an i5 and this does

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have the 1440p or 1600p display this

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one's sixteen hundred dollars no GPU 16 gigabytes of RAM half a

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terabyte SSD oh okay before we comment

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too much on the price we need to go over the specs in detail so again i7 12 600p

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which is a fantastic processor but you only get four performance cores and

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eight efficiency cores now pretty hard to complain about having 12

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cores in a laptop but at the same time this is pretty expensive

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so if we look at the XPS 15

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. Andy say it this laptop's stupid

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so this laptop as spect

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is twenty one hundred dollars for two thousand fifty dollars you can

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get a Dell XPS 15 which is just it has a

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way better keyboard it has a better screen because you're getting the 4K

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OLED that is one of the best on the

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market you're getting 16 gigabytes of RAM as well that is replaceable and

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upgradable in the future you can RTX 3050 TI which I should not have to tell

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you wipes the floor with Iris XE Graphics it's just a better laptop plain

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and simple uh geez we haven't said that in a while and

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just came out and been like this is worse future Alex again there's a saying

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there's no bad products only bad pricing and that is of course the fact here but

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the pricing will get better on this for a day on Black Friday the two-in-one is

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going to be 500 off and the other ones will be 450 off which makes them sort of

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competitive unless like hp's Envy two in one or the surface laptop 5 or the Dell

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XPS or basically any other laptop also goes on sale that day so uh check it out

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then okay so what might be better about this uh we have a full HD webcam here we

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go we have a full HD webcam in this right here I look very Orange

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uh that isn't quite accurate to how I look in real life but at the same time

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this is perfectly acceptable for a webcam cargo we have a full HD webcam

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it's terrible one Saving Grace here is the battery we

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have an 80 watt hour battery which is nothing too crazy the XPS 15 has an 87

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watt hour battery but when you combine that with the fact that this thing is

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not very powerful you can get some serious battery life out of it should we

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rip it open Andy yeah see see what's on the inside

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well here's the problem you can't access

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the inside of the gram relatively easily but doing so means that you need to

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remove these feet and you also have to remove these little plastic chummies

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I'm just annoyed there's just so much wasted space in

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here it's very clear that they designed a main board and stuff for like a 14

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inch laptop and just reused it across

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their entire lineup you are able to upgrade the storage so we have two SSD

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spots right here awesome love to see that cooling's pretty anemic single heat

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pipe single fan really little heatsink Andy what do we even say the LG gram it

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used to be fantastic because uh even though it was not super well built it

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was very light had long battery life and was cheap when you take out the it being

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cheap part I don't know what to say you just have a

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laptop that is worse for more money so

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the LG gram if you're able to find one on sale as I think I've seen some of the

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new ones already are then maybe it's great if it's not on sale don't buy it

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oh wait also we have an external display um I forgot about it because I was too

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busy on this product um this is a matte display very much

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like the one that we have on the non two in one LG grams okay so we'll throw LG a

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bone here their external display is quite good so it's the same 1600p panel

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that we got in in all of these it's matte it looks fantastic 99 DCI P3 I

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like it it's a 350 I don't know enough

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about portable monitors to say if that's good or not but I can say that if you

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just want something you can throw in your backpack

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this seems really not all that bad so if you like this video uh you definitely

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don't work for LG hit like get subscribe and

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just have a fantastic day see you later