I didn't think you'd do it LG I thought you just killed the gram lineup you made
some fantastic laptops me and I just went around to everyone at like CES 2018
and we're like LG has that good good I
know they just did nothing they did nothing for years until now they've
finally updated the LG grams I have three and a half of them here let's see
if they're any good now let's start this off with the stupid thing here uh this
is the LG Gram Plus view I'm not entirely sure what this is okay we
appear to have a calendar be green with grand I think this is just an external
display yes one second I need to build this one
uh okay so this is something that exists now it's a little cardboard pencil
holder also with our external display we get what looks like a very nice C to C
cable yes B green with LG we only have what
like a hundred pages of paper also in here
so I'm thinking Andy what we do is we open three of them decide which one's
the best and then focus on that one sure sound good cool all right so what do we
have here oh my God we can have so many pen
holders holy frick what else do we have in here
oh here's the two in one I'm excited about this one right here because I
believe it's the only LG gram you can get now that has a touch screen and I
really like touch screens they have a type c to HDMI adapter oh
okay that that is because there's no HDMI port on
this guy I thought that there was but I guess it's only on the other models sup
Jonathan oh wow it's a g-RAM
oh wow it's a laptop that will actually work with external displays
this is built in that's exactly what I want I switched to uh the MacBook 16 and
I'm going to stop using it because it's support for external displays is the
support for his external display yes Apple users always blame it on the other
thing and not the fact that they have a terribly implanted GPU this is
interesting what's this these are handy to have yeah oh except
there's a HDMI cable built it it's fine the two in one also comes with
a stylus take that Apple okay so there's
the two in one looks nice here we have I
think this is a 16 inch 45 Watts over USBC 45 Watts so these are not super
powerful this must be the 17 inch oh my
God I have so many boxes also has 45 watt USB type-c charger so probably no
GPU which one do we want to use Andy two in one it's pretty clear here that the
two in one is the one that looks by far the coolest and also it does two in one
things there's one thing that I remember about LG grams it's they're floppy as
all heck and look at that geez Louise
here is the although not at all comparable price wise app laptop yep
nothing not moving at all let's see does that improve at all on this guy
nope oh
is the two in one any better probably
not it is this is still pretty bad honestly but it's not intolerable like
the other two how how do we do this Andy with Keel first we peel first okay we
can throw my mouth oh my God remove the peel otherwise maybe fire
that was a strange feel here we have the
LG gram two in one
it looks like a good laptop so on this side we have two Thunderbolt 4 ports
around here we get a USB type a love to
see it a is that the power
I'm not entirely sure what that is maybe that puts your computer to sleep and
also a mini SD card reader I really wish that the SD card reader was full sized
but it is not oh well since we have them here I'm going to
briefly go over the i o of the other two it's the same on the 15 and the 17. we
have our micro SD card reader right here again wish that it's full size but this
more than makes up for it we also have two USB type A's heck yeah Kensington
block around the other side full size HDMI we
also have dual Thunderbolts and a headphone combo now one of the very
large differences between
the touch and non-touch versions of the gram is the display and how shiny it is
on the non-touch model we have a matte display and on the two in one that has
touch it is nice and shiny this one's shining out of light right now let's try
and get that same light there that's a
that's a pretty big difference in how much you can see this light just in the
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okay let's let's turn one on turn them off so two in one we're going to the two
oh my God okay Andy can we get a microfiber cloth I actually can't use
this right now oh and it's difficult to get them off
too jeez that's on there forever now oh
my God it looked so good before
anyway let's turn it on I really wanted to like this but before
I even turn it on I'm seeing some issues that are kind of hard to ignore here
yeah there's like a bulge that's not so bad I could ignore that what's really
terrible though are the keys so if you look very closely the control key and
the left key right here are super far down it's like below the metal of the
chassis same with a question mark it's like sideways that should not make it
through quality control LG you should see this laptop on your production line
and be like anyway let's actually use this first
thing that I'm noticing the screen is very wobbly you touch it here and it
just starts wibbly wobbling I wonder if that is improved if you don't have a
desk pad hmm okay yes this is substantially better
now that's not on a desk pad so uh I think I'm just gonna
not use this for the time being just to be you know nice and fair to this the
first thing I'm noticing is that this trackpad is great I believe it is glass
topped it's a little bit hard to tell here but it is not hard to tell with the
other ones so like here you're able to pretty easily see if you look at it from
an angle there can you see that Andy so I'm guessing it's the same here on
the two in one given that this is the more expensive more premium version so
this keyboard like on the home row feels amazing this is an excellent keyboard
that I have right here the problem is that as I press different Keys some of
them are terrible like you the U key for whatever reason just feels completely
different to all of the other ones that are around it it's slightly lower in the
chassis as well like this corner right here is lower down than the ones around
it I don't know if you're going to be able to hear this but like here is J J
is a good feeling key
that's fine here is comma which feels terrible
I don't know if you can tell the difference just based off of that but it has a totally different feel and a
totally different sound even this is so terrible that I think it's broken this
laptop is I think it starts at fifteen
hundred dollars and this one as spect I think is 21 not acceptable to have a
keyboard that is this we're gonna look at the other one briefly here to see if
it happens on the other ones the problem though
is that it's really hard to judge the force when you have this much flex but
let's just go here
nope same thing terrible awful at least
this one right here all the keys are like properly up above the chassis but ah we
really need to break out our keyboard tester for these guys because it's just
not acceptable like the variants in these keys
so this keyboard is way better this is this is not a big keyboard I'd happily
tip in it okay okay I'm glad I got a second opinion uh maybe I was just being
a little bit too harsh future Alex here I wanted to verify that the keyboard on
the LG gram actually was terrible and
not just me subjectively not liking it it feels nice it turns out I was right
wow so the keyboard on this we chucked it on the keyboard tester uh we found a
variance of over seven grams in the
amount of force required to press the key so that's an over 10 percent
variance compared to about one gram for the XPS 15 which means objectively I'm
right this keyboard's trash I'm really disappointed Andy okay let's go over the
good things of this laptop even though you should not buy it the screen on this
is excellent it's an IPS display black levels are great it gets bright enough I
think this one right here is 350 in its peak brightness
same with the matte display on the other one it's not quite as vibrant like if we
look at the same background here the Mac display is just not as vibrant as the
glossy display which is just a fact of how these displays work they're both 16
by 10 I believe they're Quad HD so the
resolution is 2560 by 1600 which is just
the absolute perfect resolution for a laptop like this at 4K you're wasting
battery life and wasting computational power to just have more pixels than you
need like this right here in order to see a pixel I need to be
here or so something like that these
even have ai built into them so they will get mad at you if you're that close
to your laptop oh also there's 16 by 10 16 by 10 just
so much better than 16x9 for productivity love to see it good job LG
guessing between these two the speakers are the same but I could be wrong
oh that's bad
huh
so I feel like they are the exact same speakers as far as Hardware goes but it
does sound a lot better in the non two-in-one version this one right here
feels kind of crushed and like there's like some Distortion or something yeah
so at about 70 volume it starts sounding way better I'm guessing that's even more
pronounced here
yeah so the Distortion goes away at about like
60 volume or so like that's perfectly acceptable now
that's just for comparison have a little look at what it would be like if you had
a MacBook here's LG Graham
yeah that's uh that's
not close at all wow um
now In fairness uh I don't know where I
was going with that these are all 16 17 inch laptops LG doesn't really
have an excuse they have a numpad you get a numpad here
so if you have no ears and we do a lot
of spreadsheets the LG grams your laptop I am very curious if LG is doing like a
vibrant display mode because it looks way too saturated also the brightness is
not even comparable the apple looks so much more real to life than the LG just
from like a contrast and detail that you can see perspective to be clear you
might be able to see more details on this from the camera but that's because
this is just way more brighter and the camera might not be exposing quite
correctly I don't know how much I trust my eyes it's sort of thing where LTT
Labs very soon will be giving us proper data on displays and I'll just be able
to tell you like okay it misses by a
Delta e of five or something I do not
want to confidently say that this is inaccurate
actually that's exactly when we say it's not a super accurate display I'm so
disappointed twenty one hundred dollars
oh yeah us oh my God
so we can get this one that we have down here that we haven't really talked about
so the 16 inch with an i5 and this does
have the 1440p or 1600p display this
one's sixteen hundred dollars no GPU 16 gigabytes of RAM half a
terabyte SSD oh okay before we comment
too much on the price we need to go over the specs in detail so again i7 12 600p
which is a fantastic processor but you only get four performance cores and
eight efficiency cores now pretty hard to complain about having 12
cores in a laptop but at the same time this is pretty expensive
so if we look at the XPS 15
. Andy say it this laptop's stupid
so this laptop as spect
is twenty one hundred dollars for two thousand fifty dollars you can
get a Dell XPS 15 which is just it has a
way better keyboard it has a better screen because you're getting the 4K
OLED that is one of the best on the
market you're getting 16 gigabytes of RAM as well that is replaceable and
upgradable in the future you can RTX 3050 TI which I should not have to tell
you wipes the floor with Iris XE Graphics it's just a better laptop plain
and simple uh geez we haven't said that in a while and
just came out and been like this is worse future Alex again there's a saying
there's no bad products only bad pricing and that is of course the fact here but
the pricing will get better on this for a day on Black Friday the two-in-one is
going to be 500 off and the other ones will be 450 off which makes them sort of
competitive unless like hp's Envy two in one or the surface laptop 5 or the Dell
XPS or basically any other laptop also goes on sale that day so uh check it out
then okay so what might be better about this uh we have a full HD webcam here we
go we have a full HD webcam in this right here I look very Orange
uh that isn't quite accurate to how I look in real life but at the same time
this is perfectly acceptable for a webcam cargo we have a full HD webcam
it's terrible one Saving Grace here is the battery we
have an 80 watt hour battery which is nothing too crazy the XPS 15 has an 87
watt hour battery but when you combine that with the fact that this thing is
not very powerful you can get some serious battery life out of it should we
rip it open Andy yeah see see what's on the inside
well here's the problem you can't access
the inside of the gram relatively easily but doing so means that you need to
remove these feet and you also have to remove these little plastic chummies
I'm just annoyed there's just so much wasted space in
here it's very clear that they designed a main board and stuff for like a 14
inch laptop and just reused it across
their entire lineup you are able to upgrade the storage so we have two SSD
spots right here awesome love to see that cooling's pretty anemic single heat
pipe single fan really little heatsink Andy what do we even say the LG gram it
used to be fantastic because uh even though it was not super well built it
was very light had long battery life and was cheap when you take out the it being
cheap part I don't know what to say you just have a
laptop that is worse for more money so
the LG gram if you're able to find one on sale as I think I've seen some of the
new ones already are then maybe it's great if it's not on sale don't buy it
oh wait also we have an external display um I forgot about it because I was too
busy on this product um this is a matte display very much
like the one that we have on the non two in one LG grams okay so we'll throw LG a
bone here their external display is quite good so it's the same 1600p panel
that we got in in all of these it's matte it looks fantastic 99 DCI P3 I
like it it's a 350 I don't know enough
about portable monitors to say if that's good or not but I can say that if you
just want something you can throw in your backpack
this seems really not all that bad so if you like this video uh you definitely
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