hey guys welcome to the WAN Show it's our weekly show where we talk about
things that hopefully matter very very much to all of you and if they don't
then I'm I apologize sincerely for that we have we have an unusual show for you
today this is the first time in quite a while that we do not have a special
guest so I had actually reached out to a couple folks but I mean it's the holiday
season and people are all over the place yes and see es is we're going to be I
mean we're flying out tomorrow so um it's just not that surprising to me that
no one was able to do it today so it's just going to be you and me and him
simultaneously all right we've got some great topics for this week guys uh so
number one and this is huge is for the
first time that I'm aware of um valve
has outright removed a game from Steam and I'm not talking about like removed
it from the store for purchase I mean that's happened with all kinds of things
I'm talking about it is gone people who bought it it is completely gone from
their libraries uh We've also got some really exciting stuff with respect to ey
tracking so steel series is going to be showing off a technology that is going
to allow you to use ey tracking to interface with your computer and then
what else we got whoa I was working on other things um we also have a NASA
using a Oculus Rift and a connect to
control a robotic ARM which is actually really cool and we have USB 100 W power
or up to 100 wat power 20 volts 5 amps
so that's also really interesting yeah being able to being able to actually
power something like a monitor I mean we've seen USB monitors in the past but
they're like these slim low power like super not baller types of devices you
could you could easily power a pro off of this like a proper monitor off of a
US USB port which is uh which is crazy I
mean I I think that when you compare that to something like Thunderbolt all
of a sudden USB starts to look a lot more interesting yeah um anyway so guys
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want to leave this page YouTube's been doing some really janky stuff on me
lately like for example I just s that to public did not detect did not know I
watched that fail also also a really good one is I've had quite a few people
asking me hey lonus why AR why aren't your videos available on iPad and iPhone
what what's the deal what you just you just want all that money you only want
your videos on monetized platforms no actually YouTube's got a pretty cool
thing going on lately where what they've been doing is they they changed the
default So you you're and you can't change back unless you have a specific
agreement with your partner Network and ours isn't that sophisticated so I
haven't even asked them about it yet but I probably should at some point um no no
offense to anyone who might be watching anyway so you have to have a specific
agreement with your partner Network in order to change the default to Syndicate
the content everywhere and when I'm
uploading if I set it to everywhere as
soon as I make it public it reverts to to monetize platforms
so then once it's public I can go back in and I can change it I don't
understand why Mobile isn't a monetized platform some mobile platforms are some
of them aren't I think it depends on the app implementations like I think that
was part of the the whole thing where Microsoft and Google were at each
other's throats over the YouTube app on Windows Phone 8 because it enabled some
functionality that wasn't enabled on other platforms like ad free viewing I
believe was one of them and then downloading videos was another one that
uh Google wasn't particular pleased with right so I mean but with that said I
still don't think Microsoft was at fault there because Google was kind of acting
like buttheads even once Microsoft removed the functionality that was
supposedly offending them right so let's
move into our first topic and honestly this is one of those ones that's I don't
know is it Tech news is it not Tech news one thing's for sure certain in that is
that it was posted on the Linus Tech tips Forum which means that it qualifies
for consideration to be featured on the W show and number two is that it is
pretty darn adorable so this was posted by nice hat on the Forum and uh this is
night man is the game particularly good the answer is no not really I mean I
played point though I played it a little bit I know it isn't the point but is it
the point because hold on a second okay so I played it a little bit and like the
the the controls are just kind of frustrating and anything anyway so uh so
this was the original articles from well pixel proposal I guess is the actual
site where you can go to to play the game but um what 3D artist Robert fin
said was I couldn't allow myself to do a normal proposal it had to be special he
explained something we would remember forever to remind us where we started
Simple Times playing games together growing up and learning that games can
convey all sorts of emotion I wanted her to see all the spikes I would jump over
for her and I think it's I think it's very Charming I think it I think it if
you're G to publish the game then it
doesn't necessarily matter if it's up to a certain standard of quality but if
you're going to ask for donations for the game then it should probably be up
the donations were for the game I think the donations were in general right but
it's a donation button at the bottom of a game screen in a browser is it oh I I
only saw it on the whole website sorry on the but on the pixel proposal website
yeah but it's like a while away from the game I don't think the point is that you play the game I think the point is that
you watch a video okay well at any rate
if you guys want to see the reaction video It's it's super cute and I I think
you your favorite thing about it was sort of brutal
but my favorite thing about it was that it's it's not the most original thing
ever and the 86% at the end if you pay a
lot of attention and you watch through the whole video near the end it like
tracks how well you did in the game and it it tracks how many coins you
collected so she gathered whatever 86% of the coins was so at the end it fills
up a heart with all the coins and doesn't fully fill up the heart and then
even though it didn't fully like alongside of not fully filling up the
heart it said 86% you could do
better yeah it's funny because that's exactly what my parents said to my
wife it's like yeah he's an A but just
barely you know why not a yeah why not A+ I mean you're Asian you should strive
for the A+ I tried to like make it so that like a few people would
understand you didn't have to make it like super ridiculously anyways yeah
anyway so that was super cute but actually this was one that Luke added to
the document after the fact one that I hadn't seen that I think I actually kind
of like better okay it was less they're different yeah they're quite different
it was less work to do this but I think
that in terms of if you're gonna okay okay okay okay in terms of qualifying a
lady to be your partner forever if she
can beat
Contra yep right yep yep so what this
guy did is he he modded a Ness cartridge
so you can actually like badass modded check this out wires all over the place
and what I like about this guy is the other guy's a 3D artist already which
and I'm not saying creating the game wasn't difficult and it wasn't a lot of work and it wasn't a labra of love and
all that stuff it's awesome but this one was it's more like a regular dude who
kind of did his best he's not he doesn't seem to be any kind of special
programmer or anything like that had to fight his way really good job had to
fight his way through just figuring out how to operate a hex editor didn't even
get it quite working 100% right but what
he did manage to do was um what his like
lab and stuff yeah so here's his so like it's it's more like a general Workshop
like you can tell the guy who doesn't necessarily do all the electronic stuff
um but there's there's the NES console that he was presumably using for uh for
testing all right so here uh yeah there are all the
chips uh use note how many chips I went
through already up top so not an expert and then what he did was he he edited
the hex uh the hex data here in order to
change the names of the characters of the game to his and his wife's name
which I think is super cute so you can your player select is Quinn and Amy I
mean I don't know if his wife's that Butch looking in real life but if she is
then I'm not judging her that's I'm I'm kidding I know there's a picture of her
down below but uh I I really liked this one I thought it was super cute so he
made it so that at the end uh what did it say at the end there it
is a that's pretty cool and and and I I
I think the biggest thing about this is just the fact that you know what yeah if
she can if she can beat Contra on the nest then she's a
keeper that's pretty epic so yeah and
then that's them on Halloween that was taken earlier it's not like the yeah he
just wanted to show them yeah and he he left a very special note here no that is
not an upskirt she has shorts on so for those of you who were thinking hey I
need to see this in higher resolution just to you know double check and verify
aate what's going on in that picture there is nothing
going on in the picture grow up so we are having problems we are not dropping
frames we do not seem to be lagging on this network at all but like a ton of
people can't load the stream at all um
what am I supposed to do probably on twitch's end it's probably on here so
that people know that we're aware of it because I'm getting spammed on all
mediums about it right now so anyone that is watching which is probably
everyone that's not spamming me yep we're having problems okay all right so
moving on to our next topic here this is actually one of our headliner topics and
I know um you're you're an you're an
Oculus Rift dork and I get that but
interfaces are changing in general an
Oculus Rift is not like VR is not the
only way that interfaces are changing other ways to interface with things dork
I also bought Nia back in the day I was looking into getting that's just dumb I
was looking getting that's being a dumb gimmick dork I just I I like ways that I
can interface with things that isn't normal I find it very cool I think this is really cool do you even listen to
yourself anyway uh so this is a
collaborative project between Toby and
steel series well actually to Toby's the one with the technology steel series
presumably is investing and bringing it to Market so that's it's great to see
guys that are forward thinking like valve and and now steel series
partnering up with these technology companies to bring it to Gamers so there
are a couple of videos here that I would like to check out uh this one isn't one
of them let me just see if I can find the right one apparently it's a North
American twitch problem it seems like most streams are kind of unwatchable
right now okay so there you go guys if nothing else there will be the archive
what I would like to do is avoid spending too much time on the live show
talking about the issues so that the people who watch the archive of whom
there are actually more um don't have to sit through listening to us talk about
the issues with the live stream cuz they're not even watching live I'll tell
you why you're loading a video Yeah well no no I know I'm just I just mean in
general I'm explaining why I'm not cuz the chat's like lonus look at the chat
yeah I'm I'm aware of it we're just not going to talk about it for two minutes that's all all right so let's go ahead
and check out this video all right this is the Windows 8 has a start screen with
large tiles okay we're not going to listen to this guy and talk for two and a half minutes I'm sorry but basically
he's like okay interfaces are changing there's this natural swiping through
stuff thing that's going on but it's not great for the mouse because you have to
move these huge distances to hit these
huge icons and it's just not very optimal but what ey tracking will do is
is a couple of things it will allow you to actually interface directly with a UI
with your eyes or it could augment the
experience that you're having with other things like something where I see this
being really useful and he kind of hints at this in the video but it's not directly said is if you are touching
something and you know you kind of Miss by a bit but you're looking at this one
but you kind of are on the border between this one and that one it should
be able to in theory track your eyes and go well no he probably meant this one
and then another way that they show it and then another thing would be uh would
be well actually it would be mostly touch mostly touch for fine details once
this technology gets Advanced enough instead of clicking on something and
having a little whoop magnifying which one did you mean to I would love to be
like oh well he was looking at this word it's probably the one he meant to click on uh so that's extremely exciting and
then one of the other demos that they do later on in the video and this is more
of a uh more of a gaming relevant one where did that demo go I think the
StarCraft one yeah the I think that's in the other video is that in the other video so oh that is in the other video
okay because I liked that one too okay let's check out the other video so the
other video was a um was a Starcraft video and I guess that makes sense that
that's the that's the steel series collaborative one so navigating the mini
map maybe you can explain this one a little bit better so it's in in the
video it's kind of confusing if you can find it because what it shows in the video is it shows the mini map becoming
like full screen temporarily it's not really how it's going to work I'm pretty
sure I think he was just trying to show how the mini map moved so basically what
you could do is okay well this part's kind of cool
because it talks about just general interaction between the gamer and other
characters in the world like when you walk into a bar someone might nod at you
when they see you looking at them for but not before they see you looking at
them so when you walk in they might say like Greetings or something but then if
you're looking around doing whatever it's okay and then you look at the
bartender finally and he'll like nod at you to be like ask if you want to drink
something like that but then he might delay until you look at him to ask something like that and in something
like an MMO that could actually be really cool because you're you're
walking around and someone looks at you and you could kind of be like you could
be aggressive towards them you could offer to trade with them but you would
know when you have people's attention even just in towns like a a blacksmith
could shut out that they're selling swords yes but only once you kind of
look at them and so I think I think that's incredibly cool I mean the
the the ability to tell if you have
someone's attention digitally has been a
problem that goes back to my earliest encounter with this would be the MSN
days yeah it's like are do are you talking to me and just me right now or
do you have 18 other chat Windows open and are you doing 100 other things using
ey tracking you could actually make experiences more engaging whether it's
in gaming or other ways as well not only this message has been read but this chat
box is being looked at yeah I mean Isn't that cool all right so here let's talk
about the mini map thing so I'll have this playing while you so it it's a
little bit vague to be completely honest on how exactly it works but it allows
you to continue doing other see like he shows it taking up his whole screen I
don't think that's yeah but that's just to zoom in you can see the alias yeah but no go back a little bit oh sorry
this isy wait for it so what we do inad
no is when when we can see his screen here wait no like Let It Go
Boom I kind of have a weird feeling and
hope that's not really how it works because that's not going to help you no
covering the whole screen with your mini map is not a good thing and he he said
like it would be bound to a button so it will only do that when you're looking at
the mini map and press the button but and stuff but I still don't like that it
takes up your whole screen because that's not going to help I wonder if it
could be faster than moving your mouse down and back
up I don't know maybe marginally but
every APM counts at a professional level so and then taking up your whole screen
so you can't see other things is kind of not going to be super good but then if
you're wanting to move and look at something else anyway somewhere else on
the map yes but part of the problem is going to be that having that much of a
change distracting but then I think that
all of this is sort of a moot point when we consider that most rtss these days
are basically in the Dark Ages when it comes to mini map functionality mean
Supreme Commander had this figured out like what five six years ago and they're
not going to you could fully zoom in your mini map you could fully zoom up
your main map you could have on another monitor and you could put it over there
why does this not exist oh well you know some people might be like better than
other people because they have like better stuff you know what athletes with
better training equipment are better than athletes that have crappy training
equipment and in an improper diet I'm sorry but that's the way the world Works
anyway sorry I I got distracted so I don't think this would be allowed anyways in competitive play for one um
because it's a change now that you brought that up oh no change oh no
things are getting better and we can interact with things better you know what maybe maybe Starcraft 3 will only
run at 800 by 600 because anything higher than that would be too much
detail yeah and we're going to move backwards
in technology as we move forwards in the franchise Starcraft 3
announc yes confirmed
confirmed basic anyway yeah so it's
interesting my one thing with it which is probably why you brought up the Oculus Fanboy thing but it's I'm not
even coming from an Oculus Fanboy Direction when are you ever not coming
from an Oculus Fanboy perspective rarely um but like I I you games have to be
developed with this in mind pretty heavily like interaction for everything
that they're going to want is going to have to be made so that it supports this
which is a lot of work with uh Oculus if
you develop under the right platform it's a button press and then hopefully
some tuning okay yes Oculus is easier but that doesn't mean that you would
have to program an entire game just for ey tracking because if you went and and
you maybe even retroactively applied to an existing game but if you develop the
game with the intention of making things interactive like say for example if my
Crosshair was focused on you you might say hi yeah then all you're doing is
changing one parameter so that instead of the Crosshair it's it's this and like
I'm I'm hoping a lot of games do develop for it I'm just saying it might be
struggling for the whole extra development side of things yeah um and
it would be cool if people like patch it into their games I think that would be awesome and people would really
appreciate that um or whatever else I
just think they might have like you noticed in their video Developers
developers developers the old Steve bomber thing essentially happened
because almost the whole time they were asking for developers um the also the
music was a little bit the music was
ridiculous I was like are we starting a religion like what what's going on here
speaking of starting a religion I just for those of you who haven't seen this
iconic video you you must see it I mean this is the guy is just developers
developers developers developers Developers developers developers
developers developers developers developers developers developers
developers
yes oh Stevie B amazing I'm gonna miss
him all right so yeah it had a little
bit of a developers developers developers angle to it so I I hope
people do jump on but I'm just thinking like if if you're an indie startup right
now where are you going Oculus or this
okay guys uh Twitter Blitz I'd love for you guys to let us know what you would
like to see out of it tracking technology from a from a gaming
perspective maybe as the main focus but also what would you like to see from
just a general computer usage perspective I mean do you do you see the
value more in the one video where they're talking about navigating the
Windows modern UI or do you see the value more in something like gaming and
let's talk just gaming from a chair so Oculus is okay because we're going we
have some more topics for later on in the show that are going to be about gaming outside of a chair but let's
let's get to that later so love to hear from you guys but first another topic so
the Samsung Galaxy camera 2 I am actually very disappointed about this
product yeah um I was hoping you might have gotten that from my notes I'm not
sure they no I I didn't even know you were disappoint okay let's start with
why you're disappointed uh well it's it's it's not phallic enough for you I
guess wow wow luckily most people won't get
that word yeah they will oh because now they'll look it up um it's it's not that
amazing it it doesn't seem super good it doesn't seem like that big of an
improvement it seems behind in the terms of smartphones also you can't call
people which is what we were asking for last time they came up with this but it
has NFC
like jeez it's it's not that fast it's
not that amazing it's just like there's
two too much meh going on in my but why no one cares no effing cares NFC has all
the NFC I mean who knows someone who bought
a Galaxy camera that's something that I can't
figure out like when you see these products and you're just like okay I
have not yet seen a Galaxy Gear I've
never seen one I've seen a few Pebbles you're not the only person I know that
has a pebble right I've also seen them out in the wild like people I don't know
yeah I've never seen a gear so like how much money did you lose on this
project and like did you get the hint that it wasn't successful I mean Maybe
I'm Wrong maybe Galaxy cameras is is is a big hit in like I don't like
Kazakhstan or something in Korea they use a lot more Samsung devices than they use here I noticed that even just
walking around but uh H I don't know
maybe it is fic
enough I think the biggest thing that I'm disappointed about here is just the
fact that and you already covered this you already mentioned this there's no
phone calling I don't see the value of a
dedicated Android camera I don't see the value of a dedicated camera anymore
especially looking at the direction that companies like Nokia are going in where
they're adding more and more advanced Optics to phones I think that's the is
amazing that's the convergence that we're going to see we're going to see
bigger camera bumps on phones that are more optimized for professionals I mean
this is the conversation we had with the whole modular phone concept is do people
care more about the gaming performance of a phone do people care more about this do people care more about that but
we're already kind of there the phone makers have the opportunity now to just
create individual SKS rather than modular SKS that are more optimized for
one thing or another and we've seen that with camera Samsung had an opportunity
here to make a phone that is also a
fantastic camera and it's really not that much more to add to it when you
consider that the Galaxy camera series already has mobile data connectivity
there's a SIM card in it there's a there's a SIM
card put a microphone in a speaker on it
for crying out loud give people the choice to say look I don't use my phone
that much but I'm a Shutterbug yeah that
would have made this a compelling device because I know a lot of people that would have just bought that because they
don't actually care about their phone that much and then just had it replace their camera absolutely so there you go
I mean anyway General specs it's got 2 gigs of RAM now instead of 1 gig it has
1.6 GHz quad core processor we don't know exactly which one runs Android 4.3
uh it has a 4.8 in super clear touch HD display whatever that means and 8 gigs
of storage 2,000 milliamp battery and an
expandable micro SD card slot I'm just
so disappoint they changed the bends a little bit um ISO is the same Zoom is
the same is the aperture better the aperture I think is that f1.4 is
Aperture or 4.1 rather 4.1 yeah the old
one was 2.8 wait no that would be worse then 4.1 is worse than 2.8 yes oh lower
aperture is more better oh my God confusing things um yeah f4.1 squiggly
line 86.1 mm the other one was F2 .8 W
schooly line 5.9 T I know nothing about
cameras so I'm hoping he can translate this no I'm I'm I well the problem is
that I don't I'm having a hard time interpreting your numbers here as the
problem that's directly taken from their website okay like Samsung's website I
went to Samsung Because unless it has two lenses cuz this looks like 23 mm
wide angle look oh never mind this is the other side my bad so better oh so
it's side versus side the right side is the so it has dramatically better Optics
then I was reading the wrong way okay yeah cuz you okay so it's a 2.8 aperture
lens versus a 4.1 so that is a lot more
light transmission that will be better for both picture taking and video
recording that's in direct comparison to Galaxy camera 1 and another thing I
would have liked to see included if you're going to call this thing a dedicated camera where's the 4K
recording for the amount that you're charging for this thing and the fact
that you still haven't even managed to put a phone in it Galaxy Note 3 does 4K
recording I know it might not be anything super super special and that's
not as good as a proper 4k camera but I mean at least it's it's a
feature exists yeah I just I think there was a missed opportunity there trying to
say in this it still does it's maximum video recording is 1080p 30 FPS just
like Galaxy camera one all right so here is Twitter Blitz
time I think the ey tracking in games like Battlefield would work to spot the
enemy because you looked up at him so you know what that's interesting that's
really cool what if cuz the spot mechanic you have to I I
literally if I'm playing Battlefield I just continuously press Q the entire
game pointing at all the things anyway
um you know what I actually okay I
probably interpreted his message wrong but I I think oh crap I had yeah no I
had a completely different direction I was going with that oh yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah this maybe not for the hardcore keyboard mouse PC Gamers
but the direction I kind of went with this was what if you could use it
tracking as sort of a smart auto
aim right yeah like as a way to correct
clumsy joystick movements a little bit without just making the game feel
completely stupid because you aim here and it hits on his head yeah if you're
looking there and it actually moves it there that could be nice like if auto
aim helped you do what you intended to do I think it would make gaming more
accessible it would be interesting though because like if if you if you
like look at your friend it would follow your eyes just like aim off the screen
we're talking a few Generations before it's actually something usable but if if
eye tracking could be used to make games accessible without dumbing them down I
think that's the challenge I'm I had this in here I'm I'm really stoked for
this for disabled Gamers that's one of the big reasons why I was really stoked
for ocz Nia as well and I ended testing
it for someone such a pile of poo but well no it actually was good enough that
it helped someone I knew a buddy that didn't have a hand I used to play WoW
with them and it helped him play WoW all right because he could control more of
the game and he was someone who was willing to spend the amount of
time it took to be able to learn how to use that thing in any way that made any
amount of sense because it actually added something he needed it it wasn't
worth it for me it was kind of fun but like wasn't worth using all right
someone says would ey tracking be possible with the Oculus Rift um a
future version perhaps certainly not the first one it would help because the
screens inside would be illuminating your eyes yeah but I don't yeah be kind
of difficult I think I would prefer eye tracking but of course suspicious people
are going to say they're getting spied on um the way that ey tracking works is
not something that the NSA could probably take advantage of is it the
yeah um Preston is uh expressing some
doubt as to the viability of it in the long
term could it be like weote waggling in that it's entertaining for you know a
few hours sorry um entertaining for a few hours but not necessarily that great
in the long term perhaps although I
think that the way that we envision eye tracking being implemented would be more
like a natural yeah tack on to to other
gameplay experiences as opposed to just being like here's an eye game pop the
Balloons by looking at things yeah unless unless like I don't know it has
to be implemented really well and that's that's the thing with like with window
play that game for the rest of the show nice with Windows 8 I I see it like
augmenting your use a little bit and in games I see it augmenting your use
unless you are someone who wants to say increase the feature set because you are
somehow physically disabled other than that I see it just augmenting and
helping in little ways not being a main thing Chris is concern
pretty much Echo yours about glitchiness and I think the first couple Generations
are just going to be stupid and totally useless so many things are like that I
mean there was all that excitement about leap motion and like where's that
excitement gone I don't know how great it is um we're actually going to be
getting one I think they have some kind of a software update coming sometime
next year and we're going to arrange to do our review with the new software
update so from like a fresh perspective review cool that's cool but yeah I I I
think it's going to have to be able to learn that like this it should not eyee track it should
not track your eyes coming unless you have a surround
screen two people be
awesome uh Zach figures it would be great for smaller devices like phones
totally agreed uh what if you have to look at your mom who is offering pizza
rolls what if this is what I'm talking about looking at someone off
screen uh I think it's a good idea but could be a Nuance like ads oo what if
ads could take over your eye tracking Hardware on your notebook or your phone
or whatever and like you look at an ad and it's like yo dog I heard you like
used cars unless you could program into your
eye tracking thing to automatically close ads if you look at them ad block
for ey track yeah but we don't support ad block I'm just saying we also try not
to make ads particularly obnoxious like remember those old like um emoon ones
say something how many times have you heard something say something it's like
you know what if I wanted to talk to my computer I would go 10 years in the
future when that's actually your voice recognition doesn't sound like Hello
thank you for talking to the computer I only use this program to
insult my sister because it's hilarious
hopefully that's fixed tenes in the future yeah computer voice has been kind
of fail well it's a lot better now than when I was a kid yeah like back when we
were like entering like text to speech on like the Commodore like seriously it
was only useful for like trying to make it swear that was the only thing you
could do with it in team not team speak invent I used to go um I T and then a
huge line of te's and rafflecopter I and
it would make it the person sound like it was a helicopter apparently we're out
of focus hey uh Brandon do you mind fixing us I don't think I ever actually
set Focus I think it just I didn't notice that it wasn't quite right nice
oh oh no I don't think that's what Alexander even means I think he means
that the show is unfocused and off topic you know what Alexander I don't
appreciate your attitude wow would love to see a game where you're presented
with an image or video as and the story progresses based on where you
look I think that would be so the the
the story line would have to be so branched that it wouldn't be able to be
very deep be really weird how do you
progress that's my issue anytime we ask for more branches
we suffer when it comes to death I mean you look at even things like
conversation trees in an RPG for example it's the same thing the more options you
have the more moral choices you have the
less far you can go down each of the paths I mean I don't mind linear
gameplay for that reason I think some games do it really well but yeah and now
he's like just moving it all over the place willy-nilly it's like it already
looks better though well yeah now we can see my booby
um okay so let's go ahead and move into our next topic here back to the uh the
regular wow thing that we supposedly do
Razer has new headphones coming this is a news item because they are going to be
launching them at CES presumably that's what we're guessing you can pre-order
them now although if I if it was me I
would probably wait for the reviews to come in uh this was posted by Tom pix on
the Forum and uh Tom is ly so excited
that this font was necessary it's probably the most like this looks like
it was sponsored post I think I've ever seen you know what's funny is what I was
going to say about it is that it looks really well done like look at this like
Tom went and like put the little product
Fe well done it is in nice little things and then he has the proper photos in the
right spots and bl blah it's like it's one of the nicest Tech news posts I've
ever seen all right so they have four different pairs of headphones or
headsets coming I guess they're all headphones these are more like consumer
audio oriented as opposed to being purely gamer oriented which normally I
would have said is probably a positive indicator uh because generally speaking
a more audio oriented product is not going to be like um Kraken forged for
example is a product that I would love to love because the idea of it is so
beautiful like I would love to wear them
and just look that cool all the time but
the base is very loose and uncontrolled and very overwhelming to the point where
I don't enjoy them um
so I hope that with the more audio
Centric products they're heading in that direction but unfortunately the way that
they're describing these um is a little bit scary sounding so uh which which one
was it crisp natural something something
something where was it I think it was the earphones Sleek whatever Etc I'm looking
for contr f Bas there we go so about the
analog headphones the DJ ones natural sounding Acoustics and heavy base scary
it's heavy base scares me but if they do it well okay hold on here we go here we
go the new audio this is from the press release I think the new audio lineup
will initially feature four models base heavy earphones analog stereo headphones
Bluetooth headphones and DJ style headphones and then the djl style headphones one say that they have heavy
base right in the description so I'm going to reserve judgment until I can
actually try them um in terms of looks though they're beautiful they look great
and I have to again bring out with hpic one thing I noticed is a lot of times I
go to Tech news I love going there because everything I need is there
aluminum but I always have to go to the source to find everything and this I
actually did not have to go to the source to find everything which was kind
of cool put everything in there it all looks really good to be honest and if
the if the build quality of them is anything
like the Kraken forg man I mean are
those the finest feeling headphones that you've ever hel the only thing I didn't
like was the thing I told you about where which if I moved and looked around
I could feel them right shift but that's a weight issue that's a weight issue and
like I I could maybe see them fixing it with a type of headband right or
something but like that was not a big deal it's not like they slid off my head
I could just feel the weight shifting around but the aluminum construction did
make them particularly heavy so I definitely noticed it but it's not a big
deal it's just the only thing I man they're gorgeous I just wish they sounded more appealing to me yeah all
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article was posted on the Forum by top war gamer and this one I'm not sure how
much credibility there is to it and the original articles from
uh nintendoenthusiast
decom but Wii U allegedly outsold the
Xbox One globally last week I'll let you handle this they're linking to Nintendo
Enthusiast linking no oh wow did they
smash the previous sales records did they make much
coin would you have to be on mushrooms to think that it could go any better
than this keep going keep going keep going
that's all I had a I liked it so far yeah um so it's it's it was that
Nintendo Enthusiast linking to VG charts
okay but then VG charts itself is kind of like I don't know so even if it's not
entirely true we do know that Wii U sold really really well we do know it's doing
better yeah we know it's doing a lot better recently we also know the 3DS is
doing a lot better recently although 3DS sales I believe are also including other
variations of the same generation meaning 2DS and like 3DS
XL so okay 2DS is probably a really
large part of that in units terms but it doesn't cost as much as a 3DS and all
that kind of stuff is in there as well um also other interesting things is
they're saying like uh Xbox 360 and PS4 PS3 also outsold Xbox One and also
outsold Wii U for that matter yeah so there's like other interesting things
here and we're not sure how exactly accurate it is one funny thing is is it
breaks it down to certain regions if you go to the actual website and Japan sold
40 original ts's
40 it's like what where did they even find them I don't know and why do people
even want them I'm pretty sure those 40 are probably the only 40 left in in
existence that don't have broken shoulder buttons so I saw people
commenting that it was possibly like accidental sales mom's trying to buy
like 2 DS's and walk out of the store with an original one the sales guys is
like oh sure um yep got one of those here you go
ma'am please leave quickly don't go back
uh do you want a gift receipt with the oh sorry we don't do gift receipts because it's
um uh leprechaun day and you NE never
trust those leprechauns it's against my religion they return everything um but
there there's like there's pretty good reasons for it in my opinion you got one
I'm getting one well you're getting one actually it's kind of his Christmas
bonus yep so I I mean this is weird you
tell people it's like okay instead of cash bonuses I was like I want people to
look around at the things in their lives and think of me rather than just like
some cash that they're going to put as a payment on their car and it's going to
be boring I want people to do things fun so this year uh Christmas bonuses at
Linus Media Group were not allowed to be cash I was like look you've got a budget
you have to spend it or I'm just not going to give it to you and you have to
buy stuff that's cool so edzel picked himself up one of those awesome Wacom
tablets that has the digitizer and is a
full Windows 8 tablet so that's pretty cool it's like a ,000 tablet so I was
like oh yeah okay I guess I guess I kind
of underpaid you this year so fine whatever and then this guy uh
ended up with uh what did you get well I
got a Wii U and and a KitchenAid mixer a
kitchen mixer it's like really that's the but every time he drinks a smoothie
it'll be like well you can use it other
stuff lus got me this movie which is good and creepy so why
Wii U though um well okay I'm thinking if if I'm going to play games by myself
I'm going to play PC games that's how that's going to happen if I'm going to
play games when people come over and hang out at my house it's of like we
have land parties my group of friends have land parties but sometimes people
don't have the time or want to drag their computers over and we'll do other stuff and we started doing mine's too
heavy not that I've ever been invited to one of your land parties you actually have been many times you've never come
cuz you're a jerk um and so like my brother has a giant computer which is
really frustrating to move cuz it's in Cosmos too and it's water cooled and it weighs a ton and stuff like that so it's
great when we're all separate we all come together we started playing tabletop games and mixing it up a little
bit so I was thinking we you makes sense
cuz like a lot of the even Mario Platformers um work with multiple people
now right and I think with a Wii U on
some games you can get up to six people because four Wii modes then two gam pads
twitch chat hates you they're saying you're a peasant now dirty console
peasant yeah that's okay oh by the way for those of you who are question
questioning edel's wisdom picking up the Wacom tablet and I don't know why people
Buy tablets I'm not talking about ablet tablet I'm talking about like a a tablet
tablet that kind of tablet so I mean he's an artist hello so having a tablet
where you can actually draw directly on the screen and have a tablet that you
can like watch movies on on the bus he commutes by bus that is a totally
sensible purchase and I think it's a it's someone's like hashtag Linus is not
funny hashtag Linus is not funny is better than hasht whatever the no I
don't want to talk about the other things anymore also another thing is I I
foresee Xbox One and PS4 emulators coming soon so I can play those
exclusives on PC if I I'm not going to
nope totally not going to happen um and Wii U ones I don't really see coming
yeah it looks like that's been more difficult I it's hard to say up till
this point whether it hasn't happened because people don't care or whether it
hasn't happened because it's hard yeah
no this that's true um there there is more complications than there would be
for PS4 and Xbox One it's B in to me
sorry I I'm changing gears a little bit here you can finish that thought I just
no it's just it's more complicated because of different Hardware things that are inside of a Wii U compared to
just x86 which is on the other platform I mean was Nintendo playing a poker game
here it's like yeah we're going to do like um a hardware launch and we're just
going to like not have Mario and Zelda games yeah because there like up on the
horizon is Mario Kart 8 for Wii U why wasn't that out yet Super Smash Brothers
Wii U what are you kidding me that actually wasn't out yet and then like
another Donkey Kong game but and then we just got Super Mario 3D worldland
country whatever it's called which is apparently awesome and I'm super stoked
you're going to let me play that on wi right and that's coming with it because
that's a really highly rated game that I'm stoked for um but yeah like there's
there's stuff on the horizon that's like this wasn't a launch game like Mario
Kart didn't come out almost immediately afterwards yeah what so that's that's
baffling but at any rate Wii U might actually be a thing soon so exciting
speaking of exciting things T-Mobile just seems determined to turn
the entire Wireless industry on its ear and I love it this is great because what
happens in America eventually reaches their culturally handicapped cousin in
the north seems to be taking a long time I'm actually not super sure on the
mobile side if that's happening here it will have to
eventually eventually you can't lag behind every other country if you're
want G to want to be considered a developed country but we seem to be able
to do that with phones yeah it's it's
not as bad as it used to be as someone who's had a cell phone since like the
first cell phone with a keyboard came out um it's not as bad as it used to be
not by a long shot so at any rate um he
he this was posted on like Twitter or something I think I I don't remember
where he posted it but it was 2013 New Year's resolutions shake up the wireless
industry so um I don't know if you guys remember but U personally for me the big
one other than ending two-year contracts was making uh roaming making
international roaming inexpensive what a huge deal what a way to capture the
people who can afford the baller phone plans because those are the people who
are typically going to be traveling how amazing is that and of course there's
4glt and all that for 2014 make waves at
CES is one of the resolutions give AT&T
a break or not is one of the other ones and unshackle the family from those
other guys so there's a lot of speculation right now that what is going
to be announced is buying helping people
buy out their contracts yeah and like special plans for families because he
specifically calls out families they're literally gonna buy
customers that's awesome I love it I
would you know I don't mind giving a
whack ton of money to an internet service provider or a phone provider
Ider if I can tell that they invested in me and I'm like yeah this service is
awesome yeah I mean our new fiber our
new fiber plan here where we're not dropping any frames anymore um the the I
mean okay aside from twitch's problems our Upstream is completely lag free and
the quality is much better than before okay I feel okay about paying a bunch of
money for that but what I feel really okay about is the fact that Tellus on a
few separate days sent a few separate
people to to run fiber underground down
the street for us link it up to our house for us and I know what I paid for
so for the first year of my service or whatever it is I paid for them to invest
in me as a customer as opposed to paying
for them to kind of oh well okay we've got like 12 people on this 10 person
sort of spot now we can probably squeeze a 13th one in if like we lower our
global data caps a fair bit and rejig I don't feel good about about that but I
feel good when you're when you're investing in me so I I really wish like
my contract is coming up with Tellis and I've been looking around at other
options and like there's some that might be better but none of them are like we
are the Glorious awesome side come join us like there isn't a T-Mobile in Canada
there's like the ever so slightly lesser evil but still evil ones yeah I know I
mean I'm okay with Belle I think I
called them buttheads once on the live stream and they actually were really
good we they were really good for a little while because they got massively
flamed for it and wanted that to stop well okay but but without calling them
buttheads at other times since then they've also dealt with stuff and in their defense that time it was something
particularly complicated and in this time it's because you have a specific
guy you're dealing with every single time which is the same as you dealt with the first time no no no no I've had to
do stuff through regular customer service since then as well so your account also might be flagged so I don't
like I'm I'm just saying I don't I don't hate them but I'm not in love with them
or anything like that I just I just don't know if some of that is special
consideration hard to say yeah I don't know but yeah okay do we want to get
into a lonus rant are you guys ready to
prepare yourselves we could have a funny one before we do that or we could cool
down with the funny one this is the funny one all right let's do the rant all right all right okay I love lus Tech
tips Forum but I feel like we've gotten away from our core values a little bit
particularly in some of the sub forums and I'm not call out any particular
names in this case but the audio sub
Forum I've been finding a little bit unfriendly to people so this particular
thread was someone who posted saying hey I just got a sound card and I really
like it I'm really happy with it my my sound is better and louder and there's
about five or six pages of people
crapping on the guy because he didn't have the almighty you know forethought
to research search the specific places on the internet where the wisdom exists
that something like a E10 might have been a better option so an external abin
Dack um and I didn't really find that
acceptable because of a couple of things number one is that as much as people
might be right and something like an objective 2 or a file E10 might be a
better option than pretty much any sound card in some cases nobody even went to
the trouble to ask a probing question and this is where I feel like a lot of
audio file people would do well to consider the old saying you'll catch
more flies with honey than with vinegar rather than being rude and abrasive to
people who are excited about the same
thing that you're excited about and rather than being helpful to them and
and really being welcoming to them making fun of them is just going to
perpetuate the myths and the misconceptions that you claim to be
trying to help them with so I'm going
let that sink in for a minute so the thing that bothered me is that after
five pages of people telling him that his onboard sound was fine and that the
solution he had used was terrible and that these were all the better Solutions
and he was basically an idiot for not realizing it and that any perception
that it sounded better was a placebo effect nobody actually recommended a
comparable product to the sound card that the op had purchased it was a Zone
RDG which is a 30 $ sound card remember
guys $30 for an amp and a DAC and an
upgraded microphone input the problem people have with onboard sound is not
always pure sound quality sometimes it's
sound volume if they're using headphones that are more difficult to drive
sometimes it's their mic input that is a big steamy pile of garbage sometimes
it's a driver issue and the external solution might be better to resolve a
driver issue because most of them are completely driverless or it might not be
because the driver issue might also be related to the mic in and most external
sound cards only have a headphone out
also nobody asked him what onboard sound he was using what we all kind of agree
on what the audio file Elite seem to agree on is that any sound card on built
into a motherboard for the last sort of few years at least is pretty darn good
no one even asked the guy if he was running a 5-year-old board and I had
someone post that if they're running I forget what it was 5-year-old Hardware
then they should basically buy a new rig anyway we're talking about a $30 sound
card not a new rig and we're talking about a seven-year-old rig could
potentially still have a q6600 in it
which is perfectly fine for watching YouTube videos and playing indie games
and even some AAA titles still so the
elitism and this assumption that a sound
card is an invalid choice is not true
whatever videos might be being released on Tech syndicate's channel that are
elevating products like the objective 2
or the file E10 or these external products to this deity like status are
they better yeah actually I personally
prefer them I can I can
subjectively tell that something like an O objective 2 Amp has less of a of an
audible noise floor than something like a sound card I can tell I can't tell on
all my headphones and it's not something that I would notice necessarily day
today but I can tell so are they better
yes but are they necessarily comparable
I mean an E10 alone costs about 70 Bucks versus the $30 the op spent and an
objective to amp alone is I think over $150 or somewhere in that range it's
over $100 anyway and the amp and D combo
is over 200 it's around 250 so there you
go guys I've been asked to weigh in on the whole sound cards versus external
amps and Dax thing for a while consider that my way in are they better sure are
they always the obvious and only choice
no that's all there's even there's even some people like I don't want one
because I don't want another external device at my computer I like the fact
that my sound card is in my computer now there's someone that I've been interfacing with on the Forum we've been
talking about how we could maybe possibly mount a deck really far away
from everything else in our computer and then rote cables and all this kind of stuff so that you could actually have
one inside your computer but there's also that which people seem to
completely ignore which is like oh yeah any setup ever can just have this
external deck don't worry about it it's like no sometimes you want something
inside your computer yep I don't know there's there's there's quite a few
reasons but yeah so anyway are we are we
are we move on time now can we do the you can talk about something else I'm still cooling down
anyway okay no I have one more thing to say just basically guys look The linest
Tech tips.com Community was built on being friendly and welcoming to people
that's how we've grown so fast that's how we've got almost 50,000 members in
the first year of existence we will not keep that up if we are unfriendly to
people it's fine to tell someone that something is a better option but if they
already bought it think about what you're saying why would you just crap on
them for something they already bought you can you can ask a gently probing
question like hey are you still within your return window here's another option
you may have considered but the cold hard fact of the matter is that in that
particular thread anyway the op wanted
the sound to be louder they bought a sound card with an amp mission
accomplished is it as perfect as some other solution might have been maybe not
but that doesn't mean you need to be a jerk about it there it's also an international Forum do o2s get shipped
everywhere I'm not not sure uh I know that there are builders in Europe if
nothing else okay cuz it's just an open design so lot there's lots of lots of
guys that do it yeah yeah are you good no I'm done now you're
done now I'm just going to have some water okay um I I don't know how we're
going to look at this one because I think he's done but if you want to go to the massive iPod one uh it's just the
one right below we first have to ignore the picture that's on the thread because
as you can probably tell upon immediately seeing it that's totally not
what it's going to look like um but
anyways it's a 12 point it's a massive massive iPod and people are specul or
iPad sorry people are speculating what it would be used You could argue an iPad
is a massive iPod yeah it is is it not yeah I'm just
saying you corrected yourself but you weren't quite wrong not entirely I guess
um so so it's it's huge and part of the problem is that I can't see anyone
holding it to use it like what 12.9 in
12.9 in I believe that's not that much smaller than this or wait hold on I mean
is that even that big this is 12 so just pull that for context for the people
it's still weird like I don't like it's this is
still really weird to
hold okay no that's going to be heavier
than the iPad would be um but and people are speculating about possibly bigger
ones too because it's supposed to and the problem with this is I think that a
name may have le and then everything else was Creed around
it which is part of a problem so I've been like I walked by a Mac store uh the
other day how was that for you it was actually kind of weird did the light
from the inside of the store burn your skin it's so bright have you noticed
that and everything's white I'm just like oh my God anyways I the iMac are
super super thin mhm so if anything I
kind of thought that maybe they're coming out with another iMac style
product that's running iOS M like maybe
it has a stand or maybe it has a stand and you can take it off the stand is
that legitimately interesting to you no you've never really used iOS
extensively have you not extensively I have used it though it's not a bad
experience I don't like the store and I don't like the lack of some
options but like once once it's all once you're kind of done setting everything
up and you're done downloading all your apps and you're done doing all that kind of stuff cuz I don't like the store at
all um it's fine and once you're in an
app it's the same what's not to like about the store it works basically the
same way in fact I would say if I was going to I don't like the the login
protection stuff it seems like a waste of time oh I think you can disable it
now now yeah okay that wasn't a thing before when I used it but it's been a
while I don't know I've never done like a I'm going to switch to iOS for a while
I've just been like oh I'm trying to use your device oh I trying to download oh
you know what we should do you know how we've done I switch hold on hold on hold
on just you know how we've done I switched
in the past you and I should both switch
to OS 10 at the same time OS 10 for a
month H just on our work computers
that's going to make it worse actually no it won't yeah because it runs Excel
that's all I do on that you don't have to use it all time you know what I'm going to do I'm going to I'm going to
turn it on I'm going to open Excel and then I'm going to do everything else off
of it and I'll just type into Excel that
is that is not that is not the spirit of
the experiment that we would be trying I've probably used iOS more than or OS X
more than you have I used to work in repair shops I've hardly used it at all
I've worked in repair shops like every time it's it's funny cameraman the old
like cameraman cameraman back at NC used
to be he would just be in stitches every
time he watched me try to use a Mac because I'd like sit down in front of
his computer and like without realizing it expose all over the streen I'm like
how do I get to the how do I get to the window I'm trying to see and then there was a grand opening of like an Apple
Store type thing that had some iMac and I like sat down in front of it and I was
like trying to launch a program and I couldn't figure out how to find I was
like I honestly I would have settled for any program couldn't launch a
program it's it's yeah it's weird the the problem for me is it's supposed to
be super intuitive but because of everything else I've used it's totally
not and I have no idea what's going on speaking of intuitive I played around
with Steam OS finally today um it doesn't do much but it works sort of uh
the Xbox 360 wireless controller was easier to get running using on Windows
were you using that box the uh the The Raven one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah I took it to NCIX today we still filmed them at an episode with it but
like the wireless controller just worked
honestly drivers for Linux haven't
usually been that big of a problem lately lately not we're not talking
about 5 years ago but like even like I was talking to you the other day
every time I've installed Linux on something that had Wireless or land they
both have worked immediately it's remarkable how many network cards don't
automatically install Intel network cards that don't automatically install
on Windows 7 and Windows 8 yeah uh anyway and that's the biggest thing is
as long as you get network working and like an input device I can go manually
do the rest of it I don't care I'm kind of stoked on Steam OS I think what I'm
going to do cuz I have a media center PC once they get things like Netflix
streaming and a proper desktop experience that kind um yeah browser
based but I I want an app like if I'm going to use something I would want to
be able to control it completely with either valves controller or an Xbox 360
controller and you know what this is going to okay this is going to sound super ignorant but I I I I I just about
like lost it when I saw that mozilla's browser on Linux is called ice
weasel I was like what is that a knockoff no it's made by Mozilla is it
I've used Firefox on Linux before yeah you've never heard of ice
weasel ice weasel versus Firefox yeah I was like what cuz I was like you look at
the logo for it here I'll pull up the logo for okay for so for those of you
who are like me and have never heard of ice weasel I'll pull up the uh logo here
but it's like hilarious get ice
weasel.com I I just I'd never heard of this one okay okay I was I was like oh
that's hilarious it's yeah no I I'd never heard of it being a part of the
mailla project I knew I knew there was I've heard of it in general I've also
heard of waterf fox waterfox is a as I
don't know if it still is but this was it when I used to use it was it was a
further back version of Firefox which is super performance optimized ah and they
would take Firefox versions performance optimized them and then release them
under waterf Fox I don't know if that's what they're still doing I haven't used
it for a long time because I've been running nightly forever um but yeah
there there's a lot of different versions CU it's open so I'm not super
surprised and given how unstable the official one's been lately I'm kind of
tempted to try maybe I should switch to ice
weasel well ice weasel is Debian so I
don't know is it does it work on maybe I'll just switch to deian I don't game
Much Anymore anyway you know what when I
I tell you what guys I will commit this now the reason that I haven't switched
over to Linux uh just even to do a 30-day I switched is because I can't
afford the productivity hit once I have
Steam OS streaming working oh cuz you're not used to it yeah cuz I'm not used to
it I I I have too much work to do I was like what no no no no no no um once game
streaming works and the other thing is when I do want to play a game I don't
want to mess around with which one's compatible with Linux and waste my time
on that so when game streaming is working in Steam OS I will do a 30-day
Linux I switched I will put my Windows gaming box in my server room and I will
only stream from it so you I will do that with you if you want although it
might be boring yeah I think yours will be very uninteresting the entire series
of videos will be me being like whoa this and you being like yeah we've had
that for like 10 years oh my God you can make a cube
desktop I've seen that actually I am aware of that and you can get that for
Windows as well smarty pants yeah I know all right uh so this is post posted on
the Forum by top war gamer along with uh
a comment by top war gamer that that probably isn't a thing but uh so this
was posted by uh okay so we're posting from TechnoBuffalo and then they're uh
reposting from oh bollocks pretty sure
it's in their micro AIS micro micro AIS or something like that anyway micro AIS
the point is these numbers suggest that Sony's possibility of bankruptcy is 78.4
49% in the next 2 years which I find
both plausible and very very difficult
to believe because you look at Sony's business practices over the last 10
years they are one of the least consumer friendly companies in existence they're
like trying to see in how many places they can stab themselves Yes except for
PlayStation except for PlayStation well even even PlayStation like they they are
not necessarily they're not pushing the industry forward
no PS4 was maintaining the status quo
the only reason they got so much Applause for it was that Microsoft was
busy firing off like shotgun rounds into their own feet at the same time like
that is the only be really interesting to see a battle between these two I mean
PlayStation 4 some of the things that were supposed to be Forward Thinking
about PS4 aren't even implemented out of the gate like the like no DRM on the
HDMI output why is hdcp still there for
gameplay son's like yeah we support twitch live streaming but you don't you
can't archive the footage so just live streaming yeah yeah look at us we're
Sony we're cool now right yeah pop the
color it's like they think popping your color is still cool that Sony I mean the
kind of crap they pull whether it's on the consumer grade products or on the
professional grade products like the ones that we use make the put consumers
in a frame of mind where it's like I might have to buy this right now but as
soon as I have another option I will never buy any of your stuff I was two
months out of warranty on a button okay on a button on a hand grip for an
$88,000 camera and they refused to deal with it that was when I was in the
service shop paying $400 for a firmware
upgrade this is the kind of crap that people don't want to deal with so when
that open source camera thing that Brandon's all excited about rolls around
or I mean even guys like black magic allowing you to do things like use any
SSD you want as media for the camera as
newer Innovative companies that have a more forward-thinking way of doing
business come around I do see Sony going out of business but that's what that
brings in the Google argument that we talked about they they rode in on the
shoulders of being open and now they're closing everything down what Sony Google
oh okay yeah yeah cuz Sony was never open no oh so you think that someone
like black magic might gain popularity by being cheap and accessible cheap
accessible open all that kind of stuff they're so welcoming to but it's always
cyclical yeah no I don't like you know it's always cyclical and I
mean Sony still has time to stop being buttholes yeah that that was my thing is
like if they don't react at all that would be the weirdest thing ever either
way they own enough they own enough patents and they have enough assets that
I really don't see them like if they if they sit on patents liquidate a few
things and just kind of like chill and just try to develop things that are making money then they'll probably be
fine so there was some interesting discussion in the uh in the thread that
I thought was that I thought was really you know actually kind of uh informative
so people were discussing some of the buildings Sony's had to sell over the
last couple of years and the fact that they are in quite Dire Straits the fact
that they are losing money on each PS4 on what I personally believe is a
completely dead business model the traditional console so well I guess
we'll see maybe it's as I don't think they're going to go bankrupt no I don't think but I think crazy things might
happen I think crazy things could happen all right I'm going let you handle this
one entirely because you are pretty stoked on this topic super stoked so
it's it's short to actually put the premise out there what it is is they're
adapting USB so it can do 20 volts 5 amps which is essentially 100 watts and
it's bir directional power and can still transfer data and it can the power can
be renegotiated as needed now
didn't the B directional power thing basically you could power your laptop
you could power your monitors those are two very common things that you could
power with this because they're within that wattage range now with B directional power you could use a USB
battery pack to power your laptop or you could use your laptop to power a USB
battery pack which is actually really cool so if
your laptop's full battery and you're plugged into a wall say and you don't
need more power you can plug in a USB battery pack and shove it towards the
USB battery pack if your laptop's dying and you have a USB battery pack in your
bag you can plug in USB battery pack and shove the power towards your laptop and
power it back up or just keep it running or like even something like a phone it's
like I'm desperate I need to get that document off my laptop oh
yeah yes success it's actually just like
anything you can just be like nope sap the power put it here and I'm really
excited about the new kinds of peripherals that this will enable so things like being able to run a full
performance monitor off of a USB port is like pretty cool and then if that
monitor has a USB hub you could also run a keyboard and mouse full power and
flash drives and everything because that's that's a worry is if a keyboard doesn't have two cables coming from it
you often don't use the USB hub that's built into it because your flash drive
is going to run super slow or your mouse won't really work super great or
whatever so if if you can do one nice cable that runs all the power you could
need that would be sweet yeah I'm pretty excited I think that this does a couple
of things so one is it improves the flexibility of the user experience and
number to is it positions USB 3 as a
legitimate alternative to Thunderbolt I mean Thunderbolts already seen a bump to
20 gbit but USB 3 is going to be coming at 10 gbit and when you consider that it
can carry this massive amount of power as well being being able to use USB I
mean USB 3 10 gigabit is going to be
lots of data for your monitor for your
keyboard mouse card reader and all that stuff to the point where you could have
a dock that's just USB 3 and and no extra power even if you use low power
peripherals and the whole thing just works so it's pretty sweet renegotiable
which renegotiated it is able to be renegotiated now I wasn't entirely sure
if that was like you use some type of UI
or something to tell it what way you want the power to go be automatic how
exactly that works yeah but it just say I I'm guessing maybe like this device is
lower on Power and this one has a ton let's go that way I don't know exactly
what it's saying that um but I believe you can use less or
more so if you have a device that doesn't have battery in it but needs to
draw Power say a monitor it doesn't have to take 100 Watts you could take the
like 25 Point whatever that it's probably going to be which is pretty
cool all right so this is a pretty short one but as someone who is playing
through uh Wolf Among Us and we'll be starting Walking Dead Season 2 very soon
um I'm pretty stoked on this uh Telltale spills details on game Game of Thrones
as well as Tales from the Borderlands which I am significantly less excited
about I think everyone's like yeah Game of Thrones and more stuff yeah that
other thing that I mean how was story a strong point for Borderlands I mean
maybe Telltale can turn it into something interesting but really
Borderlands story I didn't play Borderlands 2 but I did play Borderlands
one and I think yachy probably put it best and the entire plot of Borderlands
seems to be go shoot Jason bores in a SC yard I mean that sometimes you're
stealing something sometimes you're avenging someone sometimes you're
stealing something and avenging someone but that's the entire game and so yeah I
don't know anyway I love how they came
the story for Borderlands 2 as well it's like there was Vault hunters and they
got a vault and then they opened the Vault what are we going to do another Vault new Vault it's like we need more
vaults all the vaults no he like I
didn't mind the story line it was actually it was nice and funny and I
like the characters and stuff like that I was just like that's not the reason why I think too many people bought it
all right this is this is like the most predictable news of the Year AMD
announces mantle uh well the man well
mantle in itself isn't necessarily delayed but the Battlefield 4 patch
supporting mantle has been delayed it was supposed to come out in December but
I I think it was like around Christmas time and I was like looking at my watch
and I was like hm so the devs are
probably at home with their families and we don't have a patch yet and there's
probably like time after Christmas where they're still going to be everyone's
going to be hung over on the 1st and everyone's going to leave early on the
31st so like realistically and then like two days
later I got the email I was like yep we're not going to make it uh so they're
they're saying January sometime now I don't think we have a clear indication
as to why it was delayed or exactly when
it's coming but I think the general consensus on the Internet is that it's
because Battlefield 4 is such a broken mess in other ways that adding a new API
to it is a low priority I hope that's the reason I hope
that's the reason I hope that it's they're not it's not difficulty implementing mantle because I'm pretty
excited to test mantle actually like really excited to test mantle yeah
exactly and I hope there's no real bugs with mantle I what I'm hoping is that
it's going to be this huge and EA is going to try to use it as a huge
purchasing blitz so that people will buy the game which I'm going to be okay with
because hopefully they fix everything when they do that so if they bug fix it
and hit it with mantle at the same time and then do a campaign around that they
can be like pf4 revitalized go buy the game now $
22.99 CU or lower because prices don't
seem to mean anything yeah buying games at launch seems to be just crazy these
days it's like you can get AAA titles for half price usually two three weeks
after launch what the hell all right uh speaking of Battlefield 4 this was
actually posted last week by aliz and
Battlefield 4 is now officially banned in China even talking about it on their
largest social media Network I can never remember what that bloody thing is
called because I never actually go there but it's kind of relevant hold on
I is it wo wo weeo I don't know can't
remember probably pronouncing it wrong anyway weo weibo.com okay so no
downloads no patches no demos no promotional materials no news reports
about Battlefield 4 China's Ministry of culture issued a notice prohibiting all
materials related to the game in any form including game downloads okay I
apparently wrote that twice calling it a threat to National Security and a form
of cultural aggression I think they're specifically talking about the China
Rising DLC um but Battlefield 4 single
player too including and I'm gonna pronounce this wrong it's like
S4 something like that like whatever the Chinese translation of Battlefield 4 is
like that term is just completely banned um across the board apparently people
are still trading it back and forth using P2P networks which is actually
kind of Epic which is unexpected and unusual I don't know why anyone would
think that was going to happen at all what you can't just erase things
from the internet that was a meme a while ago when was
that who who tried doing that that was awesome I think it was the US no I
thought it was some actress she ordered that her pictures be removed from the
internet yeah that was what it was um um
I don't remember who it was cuz I didn't moved from the but I thought it was
funny that she thought she could just do that was it like Beyonce or something
maybe I'll see if it was I'll see if it was
Beyonce seems like the kind of thing yeah yeah yeah Beyonce's public IST asks
the internet to remove unflattering Beyonce pictures hello Internet can you
remove these photos for me please it's like you know what the cold hard truth
is that and Beyonce is no exception most
celebrities are not particularly attractive my favorite thing is uh an
illusion America's Next Top Model oh not
attractive yeah not easy to put makeup on yeah I mean the thing about it is
just and I'm not saying that like you know ugly people aren't valuable or
something like that I'm just saying that this unrealistic standard of beauty
isn't real and and
like what we think these people look like has nothing to do with anything
actually I think self Park probably did it best that's the probably the strongest episode of South Park that
I've seen in W probably a couple years
is the have you seen the one where Wendy I can imagine Wendy goes after all the
girls for negative body image because there's one girl that's getting picked
on or something so she photoshops her to look unrealistic and amazing and then all the
boys are all of a sudden like oh wow and they everyone wants to date her even
though in person she still doesn't actually look any different she's still a normal person but then that girl gets
an attitude about it and then all the other girls Photoshop themselves and
turns into a big I mean it's like it's South Park right so everything goes from
bad to worse but the point of it is unrealistic and it's dumb okay Haswell e
pricing has been leaked and there are absolutely no surprises to anyone who
has seen Intel high-end CPU pricing
structure in the last decade there was people freaking out about this and I was
like oh those are numbers that make sense and have been here before okay so
the i7 whatever 60x will be $1,000 just
like it's been since the 96 5x or the
925 x or whatever the original one was that was a long time ago guys um they I
they the whatever 30k will be around 600
yes and it's an eight core now which is awesome both of them are rumored to be
eight cores and the whatever 20 will be unlocked again just like Ive and it will
be around 400 it's like and it's a six
core now instead of a quad core so this this positions Haswell e too actually in
my mind I'm I'm I'm not disappointed in any way by this the pricing is exactly
where we'd expect it to be and it will position Haswell e as legitimate
performance upgrade to the mainstream socket for the first time in a couple
Generations now I think this is great for high amount of cores well yeah but
where else is there going to be more no I know but that's yeah and the clock
speeds should be similar I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be I think
uh what one was it I think they're they're a little bit lower are they not
uh they might be there's more anyway the uh this was posted by vus hun on the
Forum and uh the original article is from tech power up but at any rate we're
looking at a Haswell refresh sometime in Q4 2014 so we still have to wait about a
year for it and we'll also get an x99 chipset so after several long years x79
will finally be replaced but I'm I'm pretty excited about it it seems like it
should actually matter unlike Ivy bridg e quite frankly ddr4 will be interesting
here ddr4 will be uninteresting well
it's going to be interesting because everyone that wants to move to this is going to have to buy new RAM and it's
probably going to be crazy expensive oh okay so instead of like for the last
while where people have been able to go like okay new motherboard new processor
you know have to get new RAM and with the problems that that one Factory had
which made a lot of RAM like double in price and the fact that it's going to be
new type of RAM I think it's going to be actually a really significant part of
the cost of moving to that P yeah we've seen that time and time again I mean uh
that and the early growing pains with a new memory technology are terrible I
mean I don't know if any of you guys watching Remember
680i and ddr2 Holy balls you couldn't
get four sticks of RAM running in that reference board unless you were like
blessed by the spirit of Gabe in like it just wasn't going to work and I mean it
wasn't it wasn't like the other platforms were in any better shape and
back when DDR3 first launched I remember like I was building Enthusiast grade
systems for people at the time and I'd be like please buy
ddr2 please buy ddr2 because you know
it's cross oh wait no I'm thinking of ddr1 to ddr2 sorry sorry sorry sorry
sorry sorry sorry back when that was happen I was like yeah please buy ddr1
because the ddr2 version of that board
doesn't perform any better and it's a lot more expensive and yeah this is
super dumb because it's not stable at all uh DDR3 had a lot of problems at the
beginning too so I'm worried about this I'm I'm worried about it for a few
reasons the price thing um it working at all availability all that kind of stuff
is it might be pretty mature by then so that's a thing maybe it'll have been
available for them to work on for like over a year by that point in time it's
just going to be it's going to be an interesting thing that because a lot of there's a lot of good coming with a
processor a lot of people are stok for the processor but then there's a lot of
not necessarily good coming from something else that I think people are
not looking at as much as they maybe should be and I'm worried about people
that are going to adopt like immediately and jump right on it before anything
real information gets out there and any like actual good stability testing and
then get screwed because it it cost fair amount of money and then maybe they have
this super unstable platform so NASA was using Oculus and a connect to control a
robot ARM it's actually super cool and it kind
of totally makes sense like it's it's
one of the few NASA things that I haven't been like holy crap how did you
think of that it's like oh yeah people have been pretty much doing
that that makes sense now we're going to do it in space woo why is this not
playing go oh thank you so they have
this like triple fingered robot ARM and it goes pretty one thing I noticed is it
it doesn't seem to be like there's a little bit of latency here hold on we're
going to pause and let you guys look at a we missed that go
back we missed it there we go so head
mounted display I think what they mean to say is
Oculus motion tracker
connect robotic ARM and I think what they mean is
MF and robotic ARM
so what's going on it's a touch pad there we
go a check so you can see it's moving
with them but there seems to be slight delay well it's a connect so it's a
giant pie yeah so old
technology Xbox One connects for PC m is
probably pretty stoked for
that yeah love the
sticker a block man that's
cool it seems to either it doesn't have a ton of strength in the fingers or it
like doesn't apply too much pressure automatically I hope because when he
grabs he closes his fist right but he's
probably just trying to get it to manage to register the motion yeah definitely
definitely will not to very
cool so actually I think this ties in pretty nicely with a couple of the other
things so why don't we just go ahead and and run through all of these before we
start to talk about them does that make sense or do you want to do them one by one run through all of these yeah cuz
there's the other ones with the camera mounted Oculus I guess that's kind of
different okay well I don't know I don't know what else there's to say about this
other than Microsoft can you please please stop treating platforms other
than Xbox like second class citizens can we please have support on the PC for the
Xbox One controller not that I particularly think it's that great or
better than the Xbox 360 controller and can we please have connect 2 I don't
even care about the Xbox One controller as long as they keep selling Xbox 360
ones I just think it should work yeah no I agree I think that if you're going to
come out and say yeah we value PC Gamers and PC gaming and then yeah you know the
latest sort of thing we spent like you know years and years and all this money
developing only for our console customers it's kind of really weird yeah
I don't like that at all ridiculous um where did those other ones
go what are you talking about did we already talk about they're in the topic oh that's why I was confused as you were
scrolling around you were highlighting them
almost no okay what are you talking about I'm
talking about the camera mounted thing yeah that's there that's that yes I
thought they were separate somewhere else in the dog no because I found those
while I was researching this one
oh okay well at any rate here's some other cool videos if I could find the
thing so the the the thing verse thingy
verse is the where the idea to C off
originated from so we should see that one first all right so let's check this one
out so make MakerBot thingy verse has
this whole thing so you can mount a camera on the front of an Oculus Rift
and if you scroll down a little bit and change what picture is displaying they
actually show you like exactly how it kind of works and it's not super
complicated and you're essentially able to 3D print this self which is really
cool and the idea is that it can see
outward yeah so there's a short video here where they demo it with
um so you can use a camera to create a
virtual environment around you that you can then interact with using the Oculus
so because of the front mounted camera you actually have a much finer uh detail
in terms of what your hands are doing so you could use gestures you can pick
things up and move them around like seeing in the demo video and that's
pretty much all there is in this demo video things don't get like real crazy
until the second one here so this was a guy who is using that 3D printed thing
for his own little experiment so he 3D printed one and added a rubber band
which is pretty simple pretty Innovative if you ask
me all right so here he's showing the
setup okay so he got he got a USB battery pack to power the Oculus Rift
box and then he has a USB extension for it to go to the computer and he has HDMI
I believe as well yeah something like that okay let's not worry too much about that you guys can check out the video if
you want as always we're going to post the uh the wow dock in the Forum thread
so this is with um him just using a connect it's important to see him here
in the corner here actually I'm going to make this full screen so you guys can
check it out there we go so there we go so he's crouching and able to look at
and under and interact with objects
because he's using the con connect for full body tracking again it's connect
one which is a steaming pile of poo and I wish that we had better stuff than
that and then using Oculus and the camera in order to be able to interact
with his hands as well as well mostly
mostly the hands and just look around and stuff
this is cool and and you could even in theory use it to build a full 3d
environment if you have like the right other setup to go with it cuz think
about how something like parad drone works it's kind of similar so it's got a
camera it knows where it exists within space and it can see other AR Drones for
like an augmented reality game can you imagine if we had a couple like battery
powered Oculus and we could run around this house holding like plastic laser
guns and like shoot at each other and the augmented reality could do things
like okay here hold on hold on picture this in your mind okay if we could do
things like you know um peek around a
corner and like blast something and like the shards of the wall would fall away
because if like okay if you could walk around the house and create the map
first you could even have a destructible environment maybe if you could walk
around with a 3D camera and then like load it into something that you have
like say you wore a backpack yes to do some type of processing and that's where
the HDMI cable goes and then you could load a map which is mapped out of your
environment and just like don't move things like don't be an idiot and don't
move things we're not that far away from like really exciting augmented reality
gaming anyway what like lus Media Group headquarters Counterstrike map I know I
know anyway what he's doing right now is he's using hand gestures you can see
it's not perfect at the moment by any stretch but he's using hand gestures to
do things like uh change the Sky Box to a different setting here I'm going to go
ahead and try to exit full screen mode please register my keystrokes wow brutal
hate the keyboard someone disliked this
video what's wrong with people
yeah okay small interaction radius from the 3D camera where does he change the
the Sky Box is it here uh it's his right
hand yeah I don't remember oh bollocks okay well whatever you guys can check
out the video it's really cool it doesn't have a ton of views but is definitely worth a look I think we're
getting pretty close to the end um we have Aus talking about their Rog monitor
well making a video about rough to say they released like any information at
all posted by assassin on the Forum this is pretty much it it's 30 seconds of
okay so hold on hold on 2 seconds of r
logo okay so that was about 8 Seconds of
there's a g-sync chip or sumon video chip they haven't really clarified that
in the video itself okay more Rog logo so that was about another two seconds of
Rog logo there's some buttons yeah there was about 2 seconds of ID of the Monitor
and then about another three and a half seconds of that then there's like a
couple seconds of a random robot then about another six seconds of more ASUS
logo get excited get excited I am not
excited because the problem is that Rog
is gaming no compromises gaming and I'm
willing to compromise some things about the gaming experience to make my overall
experience with a product better so the ultimate gaming keyboard might use
cherrymx red key switches I don't care
because cherrymx Reds are unpleasant for me to type on and I type I'm not a
professional gamer and changing from reds from Blues to Reds would not make
me in any noticeable way better yeah so there you go guys um I am really excited
to see what kind of 2 and a2k IPS
monitors with g-sync we might see because that will be on my Christmas
wish list for next year and we don't know this is going to be expensive um we
don't know what this is but I'm guessing it's probably 1080 P
144 guess that's probably what it is I think competition is going to drive
pricing down on g-sync faster than most people do I think that it's not going to
sell well until it reaches reasonably
close to price parody with other monitors and then it'll take off it
can't be like $170 more than a $270
which is ludicrous it's way too expensive right now but the thing about
it being way too expensive right now is that it doesn't even really exist yet
yeah I mean people are paying an early adopter tax especially like when there's
one store that has it yes and they have it early like you're you're paying extra
because that store has it you're paying everyone extra for that
yeah all right the big one yeah I posted
this on Facebook earlier this week and people seemed to seemed to be pretty
upset I mean the fact of the matter is I never bought order of War NE so I don't
care about it for that this is this is a specific version I think you can still
get a different order of War on Steam actually if I remember remember
correctly um but this is order of War
something yeah sure anyway it's like a yeah V it doesn't exist anymore so I
guess it doesn't matter
hey oh man so valve actually removed
order of war from users steam libraries
order of War challenge order of War challenge thank you now there are a
couple of reasons for it actually do here do you want to do you want to
handle this one so ESS yeah and it looks like you can still get
actual just order of War for eight bucks on Steam it's still I think that one's
still available but if you go to the steam page for order of War challenge
it's like gone and there's just discussions of people going like how do
I get a refund um so essentially what happened
is square Unix shut down the public
servers because there wasn't that many people playing the game there were still people playing the game just not a ton
of traffic and it was costing them more to run the server
than it should have I guess because there wasn't enough people playing the
game it's not a subscription game I wouldn't think you'd need that many servers if there's nobody playing it and
hopefully virtualize it so it can change and like use a certain percentage anyway
because that's what modern people do um but anyways they closed down the servers
because of that and it was an online only DRM based game so if you shut down
the servers there's nothing for your DRM game to connect to and you can't play it
so it's unplayable and was therefore removed from Steam
what a problem I mean valve has said
about their own titles that if they ever
delete steam or something they will make the games available in a DRM free form
to anyone who bought them yep however
valve doesn't control what the other game developers who list their games on
Steam do exactly and with valve terms of service and I I I don't like it but cons
H yeah anyways with terms of service you're you're you're leasing things you
don't own them yeah when you when you buy software whether it's a dis or
whether it's a digital copy in in every
Ula you are buying a license to use it
yeah you are not buying it you do not own it there's certain free DRM free
games where you can launch it no matter what but when when you're leasing a game
that has a a DRM that doesn't make it so you can launch it no matter what and I'm
not talking about open source obviously but I'm talking about there's
a few other things yeah there's a few other things there's freeware and open
source and shareware and like there's a lot of different types of things but
when we're talking about games typically none of that applies you are buying a
license to use it um yeah
so it's it's just kind of gross because there's actually a lot of games right
now that have online online only DRM meaning that this is going to actually
happen quite a bit eventually because we've and you you can't be like oh well
my steam Library looks the same as it did seven years ago um yeah this whole
online only DRM thing hasn't really been a thing that whole time it's more recent
so we're actually going to see The Fallout of this in the future not now
we're starting to see it and the author of the hexus article brought up a really
interesting point what is my steam Library going to look like in 10 years
because Square Enix might not be the most customer friendly company but there
are plenty of other not that customer companies out there that might go ah you
know what it's too much work to keep the server up it's too much work to send out
a new patch that makes it DRM free so
whatever and like uh I believe war gaming is attached to this and if you
look at it uh World of Tanks if they shut down the servers all
of that money that you've poured into the game is gone whether it was on tanks
or whether it was on whatever anything that's not expendable like
ammunition you you see it right now as a permanent thing but if they shut down
the service at some point it's gone and that's how that's going to work a lot I
mean with with the way that most mainstream Gamers move from one game to
the next game it won't matter too much it won't matter to too many people and I
think that's why they did this for this particular title I think if it had been
Starcraft 1 where blizzard was like okay
we're shutting down the Battlenet servers so um you know pack up your CDs
and mail them to us you we're no longer licensing this software like that would
have caused outrage but since it's a game that very few people were actually
playing I suspect most of the people asking for refunds were probably people
who weren't playing the game anyway and they're just trying to get money back and they're just trying to get some
money out of it yep I actually think that's probably the exact same thing
although there is going to be that group of people that were probably a fairly
hardcore Community because reading up on this game I never bought it apparently
was not super Noob friendly apparently it was actually kind of hard so a lot of
people didn't really play it a ton because of that because it's not a super
popular game and it's really difficult right so there was a few as far as I can
tell again I never owned it so I don't really know as far as I can tell there was a smaller community of
hardcores it's I don't know it's interesting and it's going to become
more and more of a problem so a lot of people have been blaming everyone and
everything that they possibly can um but it brings up the question whose fault is
this and Square Enix yeah Square Enix a
lot of people have been slapping Steam for this what a lot of people have been
slapping Steam for this okay you people
you're wrong if you if you look at I
I've got a few links in here which will be publishing the doc later if you look
at the store Page you can see tons of people complaining if you look elsewhere
even on the Storm page there have been people complaining to steam and getting
refunds from Steam and if you look at
the community message that steam pushed out it says directly uh where where's
the community message that's the store news news link that I posted in there if
you look there it's orders um product
update by Valve orders order of War challenge servers shut down the first
line message from Square Enix and then a
huge link about how oh we're sorry and it's unfortunate and we know there's
people that still play the game but we're shutting it down because it's not profitable anymore blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah here's a link to complain and people are complaining to steam and
trying to get refunds from Steam so I kind of actually feel bad for steam I'm
not defending them to the end of the Earth because they are steam is DRM and
itself blah blah blah blah blah um but I just kind of accept it because steam's
actually pretty good with their own stuff valve valve or valve sorry valve
is actually pretty good with their own stuff which is really cool and if you're
freaked out there are other options that still interface with steam because you can go to something like the Humble
Bundle store and if you look on the Humble Bundle store I think literally
everything is steam compatible and then if you look even closer there's games
that'll have DRM free boxes on there so if you buy it there you get a steam key
and you get a DRM free download yeah so things like and not even just like
crappy games like trying to for example trying to DRM free download Rogue Legacy
which while I believe it's Indie I don't actually remember off the top of my head
um but still huge game DRM fre like
there's there's yeah so there's options out there and you can still use steam if
you still like that platform also if you're can use something like Gog gaming
or whatever you can do that whole steam add to game list thing which works
really really well and it's completely
fine and steam's not going to take that away from you because that not take the
Lord gan's name in vain or any of his my bad trademarks that he owns yeah so like
I don't know I would it's a sin stop
the stop the steam hate because it's not their fault yeah um their policies
allowed it to happen but it Happ it would have happened anyway and it happened with a game that you probably
knew was online only Dr so it would have happened anyway and you wouldn't have
been able to use the game with steam all this time well you could have done the
added thing right that actually that even works with uh NVIDIA game stream I
was playing Alice madness Returns and even though I have a disc copy that's
not a steam key and I was like I was installing it and I was like what is
this Stone Age Technology I it was the
first time I'd used my optical drive like last calendar year I don't have one
basically an entire year but I it and it
took forever too I was like what this is stupid anyway so I installed the game
and I just added it and then game stream work just like that so that's really
cool even though it's not um a GeForce
experience title and it wasn't properly fully integrated with steam right anyway
I think that's pretty much it for the show guys uh do you want to talk about changes to build blogs of the week so uh
last week in the Afterparty we did a massive poll and try to get everyone to
get ideas together and I posted a sticky in the build log section which was
basically asking like what the heck do you guys want to do with build logs
because it's not going to work this way and I really want to keep it going
because you guys care and we care and all that kind of stuff um but it's
become unfeasible with the size of the Forum now and how fast everything goes
for us to actually see every build log that's coming in and it's becoming
really really difficult to sort through the ones that have been actually finished this week that's been really
hard because we see people posting this week and I can see that Tim stamp but
it's really hard to and people are commenting on ones this week that have
been done a long time AG and it's been really hard to actually track which ones are specifically done this week um so
we've come up with a conclusion which is going to take a bit of work from uh Mr
Wizard and myself probably mainly Mr Wizard because it's kind of crazy and
confusing um but it is coming it is not here yet though um so yeah we don't have
build logs of the week this week that's a really high number but it's yeah it's
coming and it's going to be actually pretty cool and the build logs forum is
not going to work is probably not going to work exactly the the same as how the
rest of the Forum works okay cuz it's going to work on this interesting we're
we're trying to see how this will work but it's going to work on an interesting
sorting system where you can see what has been finished and what is in
progress based on forced tags that everyone has to implement and use and
change and stuff and that'll help us with some new Forum features or site
features that are potentially coming in the future as well yeah there's like there's a bunch of changes coming to
build logs huge changes coming to build logs so yeah the the build logs of the
week changes thread I I guess I can just lock now I hadn't locked it yet because
we knew we weren't going to be able to implement the ideas immediately so I was
I had an original end date of Wednesday I just kind of let it spill forward um
but we kind of we kind of know what we're doing now um if that idea doesn't
work there's a few other ideas that we're going to try we've been in business for a year and that's the
conclusion we kind of know what we're doing now kind of kind of not entirely
sure if it'll work but yeah there's a bunch of ideas and there's a bunch of fallback ideas and we're good with that
now so thank you everyone for your contribution of ideas IDE and that's
about it no billogs for this week but they will be coming as soon as
possible no confirmed date I'm going to pull an EA on this one thank you guys so
thank you guys so much for watching the show today um I'm sorry we didn't have a
special guest for you guys but you know what hit me up on Twitter and let me
know if you would like us to do maybe every other week with a guest as opposed
to having a guest all the time or you know I mean we we love taking your
feedback and shows are something that we are going to be focusing on in4
I actually had some people asking me what the plan is for lus Media Group for
2014 um I still want to do a Daily Show I'm not sure if it's going to stick
anymore so there's that developers developers developers devel no no no
we're we're not hiring more developers we are we are going to try to hire one
to two more people so uh that's going to be one of the things for this year um we
are going to continue to focus on improving our production values so uh at
some point I will get that that that
thing going where I ask you guys to help me buy a bunch of equipment because we
we are going to need it um especially if we want to build better sets for our
shows like I hate this this is stupid it's boxes behind us look I love how a
lot of them are on like angles and some of them are actually the side of the Box
not like this is this is the width of that box I know we we need like we need
proper set pieces we need to be able to like paint the W I mean part of the
reason there are boxes back there is because all the walls in this place are
horrible colors we need to do some painting so um so that's that's another
thing that we're going to be doing um and I think there was one other thing
that I oh yeah and we are going to continue to develop the website as a
community site as opposed to just a forum but don't worry the Forum will
still be awesome so there you guys have it thank you for watching The W show
today we will see you guys in two weeks no W show next week we will be at CES
last last week you tease people saying that there might be a w show oh where at
C yes if we can find a way to do it I don't know I don't think we'll be able
to but I mean if we we could try here let me fire up I have your calendar on
my calendar right uh yeah if not I can
load up mine right now just in case you should have mine you should be able to
just turn it on yeah it's on in theory I
don't have anything in that spot me neither we'll see maybe if we did a
later one okay so stay tuned on Twitter
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Facebook likes than Twitter followers now I think um isn't that crazy is the
Forum getting close to your Twitter yes
yeah yeah Twitter has actually really slowed down in terms of growth like the
the community aspect of Linus Tech tips.com of Facebook and even Google
Plus is closing in pretty fast I think I have like 22,000 plus ones whatever those are on
Google Plus likes are they likes I think
I don't know man what whatever it is like it's it's Twitter I like because
it's really easy to interact with people oneon-one whereas even on Facebook like
the way that conversations are handled is terrible on YouTube the way that
comments are handled is still terrible half the people will ask me a question
and there's no reply button because they don't have their accounts merged or whatever else I'm just like hey man I
actually saw your comment I was poised to reply to you I couldn't because
there's no reply button um I hate Twitter almost every single time if I'm
going to respond to someone there's no way that character count is enough yeah
that's unless I'm just like go to the Forum which usually I would like to
actually answer someone because if I'm sitting at a computer I'm not live in
the show and I can take way longer to explain what I'm talking about and I've
had a few people where I'm just like dude just PM me and he's ended up pming
me and then I can write my short essays about it but like oh and you probably
drove a forum sign up at the same time woohoo yay all right peace out guys bye