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hey guys welcome to the WAN Show it's our weekly show where we talk about

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things that hopefully matter very very much to all of you and if they don't

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then I'm I apologize sincerely for that we have we have an unusual show for you

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today this is the first time in quite a while that we do not have a special

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guest so I had actually reached out to a couple folks but I mean it's the holiday

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season and people are all over the place yes and see es is we're going to be I

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mean we're flying out tomorrow so um it's just not that surprising to me that

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no one was able to do it today so it's just going to be you and me and him

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simultaneously all right we've got some great topics for this week guys uh so

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number one and this is huge is for the

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first time that I'm aware of um valve

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has outright removed a game from Steam and I'm not talking about like removed

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it from the store for purchase I mean that's happened with all kinds of things

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I'm talking about it is gone people who bought it it is completely gone from

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their libraries uh We've also got some really exciting stuff with respect to ey

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tracking so steel series is going to be showing off a technology that is going

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to allow you to use ey tracking to interface with your computer and then

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what else we got whoa I was working on other things um we also have a NASA

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using a Oculus Rift and a connect to

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control a robotic ARM which is actually really cool and we have USB 100 W power

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or up to 100 wat power 20 volts 5 amps

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so that's also really interesting yeah being able to being able to actually

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power something like a monitor I mean we've seen USB monitors in the past but

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they're like these slim low power like super not baller types of devices you

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could you could easily power a pro off of this like a proper monitor off of a

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US USB port which is uh which is crazy I

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mean I I think that when you compare that to something like Thunderbolt all

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of a sudden USB starts to look a lot more interesting yeah um anyway so guys

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intro time and then we'll be back with the actual show that you actually want

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to watch presumably because you're here hopefully

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hopefully

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so guys our sponsors this week are Hotspot Shield as well as Intel with

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their Rome 2 Total War actually I've

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I've been informed that it's Total War Rome 2 or something like that so

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whatever we're supposed to call it their Rome 2 Total War giveway that allows

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4770k to get a free copy of that particular game now I'm just putting up

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the announcement video on YouTube right now because I derped out and forgot to

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do that so go ahead come on save save you can do it YouTube there we go yes I

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want to leave this page YouTube's been doing some really janky stuff on me

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lately like for example I just s that to public did not detect did not know I

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watched that fail also also a really good one is I've had quite a few people

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asking me hey lonus why AR why aren't your videos available on iPad and iPhone

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what what's the deal what you just you just want all that money you only want

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your videos on monetized platforms no actually YouTube's got a pretty cool

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thing going on lately where what they've been doing is they they changed the

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default So you you're and you can't change back unless you have a specific

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agreement with your partner Network and ours isn't that sophisticated so I

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haven't even asked them about it yet but I probably should at some point um no no

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offense to anyone who might be watching anyway so you have to have a specific

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agreement with your partner Network in order to change the default to Syndicate

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the content everywhere and when I'm

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uploading if I set it to everywhere as

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soon as I make it public it reverts to to monetize platforms

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so then once it's public I can go back in and I can change it I don't

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understand why Mobile isn't a monetized platform some mobile platforms are some

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of them aren't I think it depends on the app implementations like I think that

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was part of the the whole thing where Microsoft and Google were at each

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other's throats over the YouTube app on Windows Phone 8 because it enabled some

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functionality that wasn't enabled on other platforms like ad free viewing I

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believe was one of them and then downloading videos was another one that

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uh Google wasn't particular pleased with right so I mean but with that said I

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still don't think Microsoft was at fault there because Google was kind of acting

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like buttheads even once Microsoft removed the functionality that was

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supposedly offending them right so let's

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move into our first topic and honestly this is one of those ones that's I don't

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know is it Tech news is it not Tech news one thing's for sure certain in that is

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that it was posted on the Linus Tech tips Forum which means that it qualifies

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for consideration to be featured on the W show and number two is that it is

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pretty darn adorable so this was posted by nice hat on the Forum and uh this is

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night man is the game particularly good the answer is no not really I mean I

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played point though I played it a little bit I know it isn't the point but is it

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the point because hold on a second okay so I played it a little bit and like the

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the the controls are just kind of frustrating and anything anyway so uh so

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this was the original articles from well pixel proposal I guess is the actual

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site where you can go to to play the game but um what 3D artist Robert fin

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said was I couldn't allow myself to do a normal proposal it had to be special he

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explained something we would remember forever to remind us where we started

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Simple Times playing games together growing up and learning that games can

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convey all sorts of emotion I wanted her to see all the spikes I would jump over

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for her and I think it's I think it's very Charming I think it I think it if

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you're G to publish the game then it

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doesn't necessarily matter if it's up to a certain standard of quality but if

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you're going to ask for donations for the game then it should probably be up

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the donations were for the game I think the donations were in general right but

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it's a donation button at the bottom of a game screen in a browser is it oh I I

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only saw it on the whole website sorry on the but on the pixel proposal website

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yeah but it's like a while away from the game I don't think the point is that you play the game I think the point is that

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you watch a video okay well at any rate

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if you guys want to see the reaction video It's it's super cute and I I think

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you your favorite thing about it was sort of brutal

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but my favorite thing about it was that it's it's not the most original thing

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ever and the 86% at the end if you pay a

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lot of attention and you watch through the whole video near the end it like

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tracks how well you did in the game and it it tracks how many coins you

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collected so she gathered whatever 86% of the coins was so at the end it fills

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up a heart with all the coins and doesn't fully fill up the heart and then

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even though it didn't fully like alongside of not fully filling up the

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heart it said 86% you could do

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better yeah it's funny because that's exactly what my parents said to my

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wife it's like yeah he's an A but just

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barely you know why not a yeah why not A+ I mean you're Asian you should strive

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for the A+ I tried to like make it so that like a few people would

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understand you didn't have to make it like super ridiculously anyways yeah

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anyway so that was super cute but actually this was one that Luke added to

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the document after the fact one that I hadn't seen that I think I actually kind

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of like better okay it was less they're different yeah they're quite different

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it was less work to do this but I think

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that in terms of if you're gonna okay okay okay okay in terms of qualifying a

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lady to be your partner forever if she

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can beat

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Contra yep right yep yep so what this

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guy did is he he modded a Ness cartridge

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so you can actually like badass modded check this out wires all over the place

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and what I like about this guy is the other guy's a 3D artist already which

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and I'm not saying creating the game wasn't difficult and it wasn't a lot of work and it wasn't a labra of love and

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all that stuff it's awesome but this one was it's more like a regular dude who

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kind of did his best he's not he doesn't seem to be any kind of special

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programmer or anything like that had to fight his way really good job had to

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fight his way through just figuring out how to operate a hex editor didn't even

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get it quite working 100% right but what

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he did manage to do was um what his like

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lab and stuff yeah so here's his so like it's it's more like a general Workshop

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like you can tell the guy who doesn't necessarily do all the electronic stuff

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um but there's there's the NES console that he was presumably using for uh for

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testing all right so here uh yeah there are all the

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chips uh use note how many chips I went

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through already up top so not an expert and then what he did was he he edited

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the hex uh the hex data here in order to

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change the names of the characters of the game to his and his wife's name

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which I think is super cute so you can your player select is Quinn and Amy I

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mean I don't know if his wife's that Butch looking in real life but if she is

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then I'm not judging her that's I'm I'm kidding I know there's a picture of her

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down below but uh I I really liked this one I thought it was super cute so he

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made it so that at the end uh what did it say at the end there it

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is a that's pretty cool and and and I I

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I think the biggest thing about this is just the fact that you know what yeah if

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she can if she can beat Contra on the nest then she's a

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keeper that's pretty epic so yeah and

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then that's them on Halloween that was taken earlier it's not like the yeah he

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just wanted to show them yeah and he he left a very special note here no that is

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not an upskirt she has shorts on so for those of you who were thinking hey I

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need to see this in higher resolution just to you know double check and verify

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aate what's going on in that picture there is nothing

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going on in the picture grow up so we are having problems we are not dropping

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frames we do not seem to be lagging on this network at all but like a ton of

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people can't load the stream at all um

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what am I supposed to do probably on twitch's end it's probably on here so

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that people know that we're aware of it because I'm getting spammed on all

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mediums about it right now so anyone that is watching which is probably

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everyone that's not spamming me yep we're having problems okay all right so

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moving on to our next topic here this is actually one of our headliner topics and

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I know um you're you're an you're an

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Oculus Rift dork and I get that but

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interfaces are changing in general an

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Oculus Rift is not like VR is not the

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only way that interfaces are changing other ways to interface with things dork

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I also bought Nia back in the day I was looking into getting that's just dumb I

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was looking getting that's being a dumb gimmick dork I just I I like ways that I

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can interface with things that isn't normal I find it very cool I think this is really cool do you even listen to

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yourself anyway uh so this is a

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collaborative project between Toby and

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steel series well actually to Toby's the one with the technology steel series

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presumably is investing and bringing it to Market so that's it's great to see

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guys that are forward thinking like valve and and now steel series

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partnering up with these technology companies to bring it to Gamers so there

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are a couple of videos here that I would like to check out uh this one isn't one

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of them let me just see if I can find the right one apparently it's a North

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American twitch problem it seems like most streams are kind of unwatchable

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right now okay so there you go guys if nothing else there will be the archive

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what I would like to do is avoid spending too much time on the live show

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talking about the issues so that the people who watch the archive of whom

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there are actually more um don't have to sit through listening to us talk about

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the issues with the live stream cuz they're not even watching live I'll tell

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you why you're loading a video Yeah well no no I know I'm just I just mean in

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general I'm explaining why I'm not cuz the chat's like lonus look at the chat

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yeah I'm I'm aware of it we're just not going to talk about it for two minutes that's all all right so let's go ahead

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and check out this video all right this is the Windows 8 has a start screen with

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large tiles okay we're not going to listen to this guy and talk for two and a half minutes I'm sorry but basically

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he's like okay interfaces are changing there's this natural swiping through

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stuff thing that's going on but it's not great for the mouse because you have to

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move these huge distances to hit these

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huge icons and it's just not very optimal but what ey tracking will do is

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is a couple of things it will allow you to actually interface directly with a UI

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with your eyes or it could augment the

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experience that you're having with other things like something where I see this

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being really useful and he kind of hints at this in the video but it's not directly said is if you are touching

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something and you know you kind of Miss by a bit but you're looking at this one

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but you kind of are on the border between this one and that one it should

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be able to in theory track your eyes and go well no he probably meant this one

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and then another way that they show it and then another thing would be uh would

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be well actually it would be mostly touch mostly touch for fine details once

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this technology gets Advanced enough instead of clicking on something and

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having a little whoop magnifying which one did you mean to I would love to be

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like oh well he was looking at this word it's probably the one he meant to click on uh so that's extremely exciting and

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then one of the other demos that they do later on in the video and this is more

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of a uh more of a gaming relevant one where did that demo go I think the

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StarCraft one yeah the I think that's in the other video is that in the other video so oh that is in the other video

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okay because I liked that one too okay let's check out the other video so the

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other video was a um was a Starcraft video and I guess that makes sense that

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that's the that's the steel series collaborative one so navigating the mini

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map maybe you can explain this one a little bit better so it's in in the

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video it's kind of confusing if you can find it because what it shows in the video is it shows the mini map becoming

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like full screen temporarily it's not really how it's going to work I'm pretty

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sure I think he was just trying to show how the mini map moved so basically what

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you could do is okay well this part's kind of cool

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because it talks about just general interaction between the gamer and other

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characters in the world like when you walk into a bar someone might nod at you

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when they see you looking at them for but not before they see you looking at

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them so when you walk in they might say like Greetings or something but then if

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you're looking around doing whatever it's okay and then you look at the

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bartender finally and he'll like nod at you to be like ask if you want to drink

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something like that but then he might delay until you look at him to ask something like that and in something

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like an MMO that could actually be really cool because you're you're

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walking around and someone looks at you and you could kind of be like you could

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be aggressive towards them you could offer to trade with them but you would

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know when you have people's attention even just in towns like a a blacksmith

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could shut out that they're selling swords yes but only once you kind of

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look at them and so I think I think that's incredibly cool I mean the

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the the ability to tell if you have

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someone's attention digitally has been a

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problem that goes back to my earliest encounter with this would be the MSN

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days yeah it's like are do are you talking to me and just me right now or

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do you have 18 other chat Windows open and are you doing 100 other things using

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ey tracking you could actually make experiences more engaging whether it's

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in gaming or other ways as well not only this message has been read but this chat

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box is being looked at yeah I mean Isn't that cool all right so here let's talk

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about the mini map thing so I'll have this playing while you so it it's a

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little bit vague to be completely honest on how exactly it works but it allows

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you to continue doing other see like he shows it taking up his whole screen I

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don't think that's yeah but that's just to zoom in you can see the alias yeah but no go back a little bit oh sorry

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this isy wait for it so what we do inad

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no is when when we can see his screen here wait no like Let It Go

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Boom I kind of have a weird feeling and

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hope that's not really how it works because that's not going to help you no

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covering the whole screen with your mini map is not a good thing and he he said

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like it would be bound to a button so it will only do that when you're looking at

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the mini map and press the button but and stuff but I still don't like that it

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takes up your whole screen because that's not going to help I wonder if it

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could be faster than moving your mouse down and back

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up I don't know maybe marginally but

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every APM counts at a professional level so and then taking up your whole screen

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so you can't see other things is kind of not going to be super good but then if

00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:56.799
you're wanting to move and look at something else anyway somewhere else on

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the map yes but part of the problem is going to be that having that much of a

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change distracting but then I think that

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all of this is sort of a moot point when we consider that most rtss these days

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are basically in the Dark Ages when it comes to mini map functionality mean

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Supreme Commander had this figured out like what five six years ago and they're

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not going to you could fully zoom in your mini map you could fully zoom up

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your main map you could have on another monitor and you could put it over there

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why does this not exist oh well you know some people might be like better than

00:18:29.320 --> 00:18:34.600
other people because they have like better stuff you know what athletes with

00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:38.440
better training equipment are better than athletes that have crappy training

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equipment and in an improper diet I'm sorry but that's the way the world Works

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anyway sorry I I got distracted so I don't think this would be allowed anyways in competitive play for one um

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because it's a change now that you brought that up oh no change oh no

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things are getting better and we can interact with things better you know what maybe maybe Starcraft 3 will only

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run at 800 by 600 because anything higher than that would be too much

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detail yeah and we're going to move backwards

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in technology as we move forwards in the franchise Starcraft 3

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announc yes confirmed

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confirmed basic anyway yeah so it's

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interesting my one thing with it which is probably why you brought up the Oculus Fanboy thing but it's I'm not

00:19:17.840 --> 00:19:24.440
even coming from an Oculus Fanboy Direction when are you ever not coming

00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:29.760
from an Oculus Fanboy perspective rarely um but like I I you games have to be

00:19:27.679 --> 00:19:33.600
developed with this in mind pretty heavily like interaction for everything

00:19:32.120 --> 00:19:38.600
that they're going to want is going to have to be made so that it supports this

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which is a lot of work with uh Oculus if

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you develop under the right platform it's a button press and then hopefully

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some tuning okay yes Oculus is easier but that doesn't mean that you would

00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:53.120
have to program an entire game just for ey tracking because if you went and and

00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:56.720
you maybe even retroactively applied to an existing game but if you develop the

00:19:54.720 --> 00:20:01.400
game with the intention of making things interactive like say for example if my

00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:05.960
Crosshair was focused on you you might say hi yeah then all you're doing is

00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:10.440
changing one parameter so that instead of the Crosshair it's it's this and like

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I'm I'm hoping a lot of games do develop for it I'm just saying it might be

00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:18.760
struggling for the whole extra development side of things yeah um and

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it would be cool if people like patch it into their games I think that would be awesome and people would really

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appreciate that um or whatever else I

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just think they might have like you noticed in their video Developers

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developers developers the old Steve bomber thing essentially happened

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because almost the whole time they were asking for developers um the also the

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music was a little bit the music was

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ridiculous I was like are we starting a religion like what what's going on here

00:20:47.120 --> 00:20:53.159
speaking of starting a religion I just for those of you who haven't seen this

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iconic video you you must see it I mean this is the guy is just developers

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developers developers developers Developers developers developers

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developers developers developers developers developers developers

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developers

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yes oh Stevie B amazing I'm gonna miss

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him all right so yeah it had a little

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bit of a developers developers developers angle to it so I I hope

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people do jump on but I'm just thinking like if if you're an indie startup right

00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:31.760
now where are you going Oculus or this

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okay guys uh Twitter Blitz I'd love for you guys to let us know what you would

00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:40.960
like to see out of it tracking technology from a from a gaming

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perspective maybe as the main focus but also what would you like to see from

00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:48.240
just a general computer usage perspective I mean do you do you see the

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value more in the one video where they're talking about navigating the

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Windows modern UI or do you see the value more in something like gaming and

00:21:54.120 --> 00:21:59.760
let's talk just gaming from a chair so Oculus is okay because we're going we

00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:04.960
have some more topics for later on in the show that are going to be about gaming outside of a chair but let's

00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:10.039
let's get to that later so love to hear from you guys but first another topic so

00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:14.360
the Samsung Galaxy camera 2 I am actually very disappointed about this

00:22:12.120 --> 00:22:17.799
product yeah um I was hoping you might have gotten that from my notes I'm not

00:22:15.679 --> 00:22:21.279
sure they no I I didn't even know you were disappoint okay let's start with

00:22:19.120 --> 00:22:24.279
why you're disappointed uh well it's it's it's not phallic enough for you I

00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:28.880
guess wow wow luckily most people won't get

00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:36.080
that word yeah they will oh because now they'll look it up um it's it's not that

00:22:33.360 --> 00:22:39.799
amazing it it doesn't seem super good it doesn't seem like that big of an

00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:44.039
improvement it seems behind in the terms of smartphones also you can't call

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people which is what we were asking for last time they came up with this but it

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has NFC

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like jeez it's it's not that fast it's

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not that amazing it's just like there's

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two too much meh going on in my but why no one cares no effing cares NFC has all

00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:10.200
the NFC I mean who knows someone who bought

00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.559
a Galaxy camera that's something that I can't

00:23:12.159 --> 00:23:20.120
figure out like when you see these products and you're just like okay I

00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:22.919
have not yet seen a Galaxy Gear I've

00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:25.640
never seen one I've seen a few Pebbles you're not the only person I know that

00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:30.200
has a pebble right I've also seen them out in the wild like people I don't know

00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:36.279
yeah I've never seen a gear so like how much money did you lose on this

00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:40.880
project and like did you get the hint that it wasn't successful I mean Maybe

00:23:38.360 --> 00:23:44.880
I'm Wrong maybe Galaxy cameras is is is a big hit in like I don't like

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:50.360
Kazakhstan or something in Korea they use a lot more Samsung devices than they use here I noticed that even just

00:23:47.360 --> 00:23:53.159
walking around but uh H I don't know

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maybe it is fic

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enough I think the biggest thing that I'm disappointed about here is just the

00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:05.679
fact that and you already covered this you already mentioned this there's no

00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:08.360
phone calling I don't see the value of a

00:24:05.679 --> 00:24:12.400
dedicated Android camera I don't see the value of a dedicated camera anymore

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:17.440
especially looking at the direction that companies like Nokia are going in where

00:24:14.840 --> 00:24:23.440
they're adding more and more advanced Optics to phones I think that's the is

00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:26.919
amazing that's the convergence that we're going to see we're going to see

00:24:24.679 --> 00:24:30.720
bigger camera bumps on phones that are more optimized for professionals I mean

00:24:28.760 --> 00:24:35.360
this is the conversation we had with the whole modular phone concept is do people

00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:41.240
care more about the gaming performance of a phone do people care more about this do people care more about that but

00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:45.840
we're already kind of there the phone makers have the opportunity now to just

00:24:43.919 --> 00:24:49.559
create individual SKS rather than modular SKS that are more optimized for

00:24:48.320 --> 00:24:56.679
one thing or another and we've seen that with camera Samsung had an opportunity

00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:59.520
here to make a phone that is also a

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fantastic camera and it's really not that much more to add to it when you

00:25:01.520 --> 00:25:09.000
consider that the Galaxy camera series already has mobile data connectivity

00:25:07.159 --> 00:25:14.000
there's a SIM card in it there's a there's a SIM

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card put a microphone in a speaker on it

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for crying out loud give people the choice to say look I don't use my phone

00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:24.799
that much but I'm a Shutterbug yeah that

00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:29.520
would have made this a compelling device because I know a lot of people that would have just bought that because they

00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:36.279
don't actually care about their phone that much and then just had it replace their camera absolutely so there you go

00:25:34.120 --> 00:25:40.600
I mean anyway General specs it's got 2 gigs of RAM now instead of 1 gig it has

00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:46.840
1.6 GHz quad core processor we don't know exactly which one runs Android 4.3

00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:52.159
uh it has a 4.8 in super clear touch HD display whatever that means and 8 gigs

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of storage 2,000 milliamp battery and an

00:25:52.159 --> 00:25:58.159
expandable micro SD card slot I'm just

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so disappoint they changed the bends a little bit um ISO is the same Zoom is

00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:10.279
the same is the aperture better the aperture I think is that f1.4 is

00:26:07.159 --> 00:26:12.840
Aperture or 4.1 rather 4.1 yeah the old

00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:18.960
one was 2.8 wait no that would be worse then 4.1 is worse than 2.8 yes oh lower

00:26:16.760 --> 00:26:28.760
aperture is more better oh my God confusing things um yeah f4.1 squiggly

00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:31.840
line 86.1 mm the other one was F2 .8 W

00:26:28.760 --> 00:26:33.679
schooly line 5.9 T I know nothing about

00:26:31.840 --> 00:26:38.159
cameras so I'm hoping he can translate this no I'm I'm I well the problem is

00:26:36.399 --> 00:26:41.279
that I don't I'm having a hard time interpreting your numbers here as the

00:26:39.679 --> 00:26:46.240
problem that's directly taken from their website okay like Samsung's website I

00:26:44.320 --> 00:26:51.760
went to Samsung Because unless it has two lenses cuz this looks like 23 mm

00:26:49.399 --> 00:26:55.640
wide angle look oh never mind this is the other side my bad so better oh so

00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:59.880
it's side versus side the right side is the so it has dramatically better Optics

00:26:58.120 --> 00:27:06.960
then I was reading the wrong way okay yeah cuz you okay so it's a 2.8 aperture

00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:09.000
lens versus a 4.1 so that is a lot more

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:12.600
light transmission that will be better for both picture taking and video

00:27:11.080 --> 00:27:15.440
recording that's in direct comparison to Galaxy camera 1 and another thing I

00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:20.320
would have liked to see included if you're going to call this thing a dedicated camera where's the 4K

00:27:18.399 --> 00:27:23.960
recording for the amount that you're charging for this thing and the fact

00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:28.840
that you still haven't even managed to put a phone in it Galaxy Note 3 does 4K

00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.840
recording I know it might not be anything super super special and that's

00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:39.520
not as good as a proper 4k camera but I mean at least it's it's a

00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:44.200
feature exists yeah I just I think there was a missed opportunity there trying to

00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:49.000
say in this it still does it's maximum video recording is 1080p 30 FPS just

00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:53.559
like Galaxy camera one all right so here is Twitter Blitz

00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:58.679
time I think the ey tracking in games like Battlefield would work to spot the

00:27:55.760 --> 00:28:02.399
enemy because you looked up at him so you know what that's interesting that's

00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:07.919
really cool what if cuz the spot mechanic you have to I I

00:28:05.760 --> 00:28:14.960
literally if I'm playing Battlefield I just continuously press Q the entire

00:28:10.760 --> 00:28:18.000
game pointing at all the things anyway

00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:19.760
um you know what I actually okay I

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:24.399
probably interpreted his message wrong but I I think oh crap I had yeah no I

00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:29.399
had a completely different direction I was going with that oh yeah yeah yeah

00:28:27.080 --> 00:28:33.440
yeah yeah yeah yeah this maybe not for the hardcore keyboard mouse PC Gamers

00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:39.200
but the direction I kind of went with this was what if you could use it

00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:43.039
tracking as sort of a smart auto

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:45.679
aim right yeah like as a way to correct

00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:49.200
clumsy joystick movements a little bit without just making the game feel

00:28:47.320 --> 00:28:53.840
completely stupid because you aim here and it hits on his head yeah if you're

00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:58.159
looking there and it actually moves it there that could be nice like if auto

00:28:55.399 --> 00:29:01.679
aim helped you do what you intended to do I think it would make gaming more

00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:06.039
accessible it would be interesting though because like if if you if you

00:29:03.679 --> 00:29:10.799
like look at your friend it would follow your eyes just like aim off the screen

00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:15.159
we're talking a few Generations before it's actually something usable but if if

00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:19.240
eye tracking could be used to make games accessible without dumbing them down I

00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:23.159
think that's the challenge I'm I had this in here I'm I'm really stoked for

00:29:21.159 --> 00:29:27.960
this for disabled Gamers that's one of the big reasons why I was really stoked

00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:30.200
for ocz Nia as well and I ended testing

00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:33.600
it for someone such a pile of poo but well no it actually was good enough that

00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:37.000
it helped someone I knew a buddy that didn't have a hand I used to play WoW

00:29:35.080 --> 00:29:39.799
with them and it helped him play WoW all right because he could control more of

00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:44.240
the game and he was someone who was willing to spend the amount of

00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:49.080
time it took to be able to learn how to use that thing in any way that made any

00:29:46.360 --> 00:29:52.799
amount of sense because it actually added something he needed it it wasn't

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:56.720
worth it for me it was kind of fun but like wasn't worth using all right

00:29:55.159 --> 00:30:03.159
someone says would ey tracking be possible with the Oculus Rift um a

00:30:00.320 --> 00:30:07.200
future version perhaps certainly not the first one it would help because the

00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:12.840
screens inside would be illuminating your eyes yeah but I don't yeah be kind

00:30:10.120 --> 00:30:15.799
of difficult I think I would prefer eye tracking but of course suspicious people

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:19.679
are going to say they're getting spied on um the way that ey tracking works is

00:30:17.840 --> 00:30:26.840
not something that the NSA could probably take advantage of is it the

00:30:22.600 --> 00:30:28.399
yeah um Preston is uh expressing some

00:30:26.840 --> 00:30:32.799
doubt as to the viability of it in the long

00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:37.720
term could it be like weote waggling in that it's entertaining for you know a

00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:42.799
few hours sorry um entertaining for a few hours but not necessarily that great

00:30:39.399 --> 00:30:45.399
in the long term perhaps although I

00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:51.399
think that the way that we envision eye tracking being implemented would be more

00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:53.480
like a natural yeah tack on to to other

00:30:51.399 --> 00:30:59.360
gameplay experiences as opposed to just being like here's an eye game pop the

00:30:57.360 --> 00:31:04.679
Balloons by looking at things yeah unless unless like I don't know it has

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:08.399
to be implemented really well and that's that's the thing with like with window

00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:13.919
play that game for the rest of the show nice with Windows 8 I I see it like

00:31:11.159 --> 00:31:18.279
augmenting your use a little bit and in games I see it augmenting your use

00:31:15.679 --> 00:31:22.279
unless you are someone who wants to say increase the feature set because you are

00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:25.799
somehow physically disabled other than that I see it just augmenting and

00:31:23.840 --> 00:31:29.760
helping in little ways not being a main thing Chris is concern

00:31:27.679 --> 00:31:33.440
pretty much Echo yours about glitchiness and I think the first couple Generations

00:31:31.399 --> 00:31:37.360
are just going to be stupid and totally useless so many things are like that I

00:31:35.919 --> 00:31:40.880
mean there was all that excitement about leap motion and like where's that

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:44.320
excitement gone I don't know how great it is um we're actually going to be

00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:47.600
getting one I think they have some kind of a software update coming sometime

00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:51.880
next year and we're going to arrange to do our review with the new software

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:56.000
update so from like a fresh perspective review cool that's cool but yeah I I I

00:31:54.760 --> 00:32:01.600
think it's going to have to be able to learn that like this it should not eyee track it should

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:06.840
not track your eyes coming unless you have a surround

00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:09.120
screen two people be

00:32:06.840 --> 00:32:13.320
awesome uh Zach figures it would be great for smaller devices like phones

00:32:11.120 --> 00:32:16.840
totally agreed uh what if you have to look at your mom who is offering pizza

00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:20.519
rolls what if this is what I'm talking about looking at someone off

00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:28.200
screen uh I think it's a good idea but could be a Nuance like ads oo what if

00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:31.840
ads could take over your eye tracking Hardware on your notebook or your phone

00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:36.080
or whatever and like you look at an ad and it's like yo dog I heard you like

00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:40.159
used cars unless you could program into your

00:32:38.600 --> 00:32:44.880
eye tracking thing to automatically close ads if you look at them ad block

00:32:43.320 --> 00:32:50.399
for ey track yeah but we don't support ad block I'm just saying we also try not

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:56.399
to make ads particularly obnoxious like remember those old like um emoon ones

00:32:54.240 --> 00:33:00.799
say something how many times have you heard something say something it's like

00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:06.120
you know what if I wanted to talk to my computer I would go 10 years in the

00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:10.399
future when that's actually your voice recognition doesn't sound like Hello

00:33:08.360 --> 00:33:17.200
thank you for talking to the computer I only use this program to

00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:18.760
insult my sister because it's hilarious

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:22.720
hopefully that's fixed tenes in the future yeah computer voice has been kind

00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:27.320
of fail well it's a lot better now than when I was a kid yeah like back when we

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:31.279
were like entering like text to speech on like the Commodore like seriously it

00:33:29.399 --> 00:33:35.600
was only useful for like trying to make it swear that was the only thing you

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:42.120
could do with it in team not team speak invent I used to go um I T and then a

00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:43.519
huge line of te's and rafflecopter I and

00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:47.840
it would make it the person sound like it was a helicopter apparently we're out

00:33:45.399 --> 00:33:52.159
of focus hey uh Brandon do you mind fixing us I don't think I ever actually

00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:55.639
set Focus I think it just I didn't notice that it wasn't quite right nice

00:33:54.320 --> 00:34:00.279
oh oh no I don't think that's what Alexander even means I think he means

00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:04.480
that the show is unfocused and off topic you know what Alexander I don't

00:34:01.639 --> 00:34:07.639
appreciate your attitude wow would love to see a game where you're presented

00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:10.919
with an image or video as and the story progresses based on where you

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:17.679
look I think that would be so the the

00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:23.079
the story line would have to be so branched that it wouldn't be able to be

00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.960
very deep be really weird how do you

00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:30.599
progress that's my issue anytime we ask for more branches

00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:34.560
we suffer when it comes to death I mean you look at even things like

00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:40.919
conversation trees in an RPG for example it's the same thing the more options you

00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:43.000
have the more moral choices you have the

00:34:40.919 --> 00:34:47.200
less far you can go down each of the paths I mean I don't mind linear

00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:51.800
gameplay for that reason I think some games do it really well but yeah and now

00:34:50.200 --> 00:34:56.320
he's like just moving it all over the place willy-nilly it's like it already

00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:58.879
looks better though well yeah now we can see my booby

00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:06.440
um okay so let's go ahead and move into our next topic here back to the uh the

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:09.000
regular wow thing that we supposedly do

00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:14.720
Razer has new headphones coming this is a news item because they are going to be

00:35:12.839 --> 00:35:19.440
launching them at CES presumably that's what we're guessing you can pre-order

00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:21.280
them now although if I if it was me I

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:28.880
would probably wait for the reviews to come in uh this was posted by Tom pix on

00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:31.320
the Forum and uh Tom is ly so excited

00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:35.599
that this font was necessary it's probably the most like this looks like

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:38.800
it was sponsored post I think I've ever seen you know what's funny is what I was

00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:44.400
going to say about it is that it looks really well done like look at this like

00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:46.920
Tom went and like put the little product

00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:50.200
Fe well done it is in nice little things and then he has the proper photos in the

00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:54.920
right spots and bl blah it's like it's one of the nicest Tech news posts I've

00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.880
ever seen all right so they have four different pairs of headphones or

00:35:56.319 --> 00:36:02.880
headsets coming I guess they're all headphones these are more like consumer

00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:08.000
audio oriented as opposed to being purely gamer oriented which normally I

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:12.839
would have said is probably a positive indicator uh because generally speaking

00:36:10.319 --> 00:36:17.400
a more audio oriented product is not going to be like um Kraken forged for

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:24.040
example is a product that I would love to love because the idea of it is so

00:36:20.839 --> 00:36:27.200
beautiful like I would love to wear them

00:36:24.040 --> 00:36:29.319
and just look that cool all the time but

00:36:27.200 --> 00:36:34.839
the base is very loose and uncontrolled and very overwhelming to the point where

00:36:31.240 --> 00:36:38.640
I don't enjoy them um

00:36:34.839 --> 00:36:40.119
so I hope that with the more audio

00:36:38.640 --> 00:36:44.560
Centric products they're heading in that direction but unfortunately the way that

00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:51.040
they're describing these um is a little bit scary sounding so uh which which one

00:36:47.839 --> 00:36:52.800
was it crisp natural something something

00:36:51.040 --> 00:37:01.480
something where was it I think it was the earphones Sleek whatever Etc I'm looking

00:36:57.520 --> 00:37:04.160
for contr f Bas there we go so about the

00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:10.119
analog headphones the DJ ones natural sounding Acoustics and heavy base scary

00:37:07.520 --> 00:37:14.119
it's heavy base scares me but if they do it well okay hold on here we go here we

00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:17.839
go the new audio this is from the press release I think the new audio lineup

00:37:15.560 --> 00:37:22.680
will initially feature four models base heavy earphones analog stereo headphones

00:37:21.319 --> 00:37:27.720
Bluetooth headphones and DJ style headphones and then the djl style headphones one say that they have heavy

00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:31.599
base right in the description so I'm going to reserve judgment until I can

00:37:29.240 --> 00:37:35.560
actually try them um in terms of looks though they're beautiful they look great

00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:39.240
and I have to again bring out with hpic one thing I noticed is a lot of times I

00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:43.119
go to Tech news I love going there because everything I need is there

00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:46.440
aluminum but I always have to go to the source to find everything and this I

00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:49.599
actually did not have to go to the source to find everything which was kind

00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:56.240
of cool put everything in there it all looks really good to be honest and if

00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:00.200
the if the build quality of them is anything

00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:02.079
like the Kraken forg man I mean are

00:38:00.200 --> 00:38:04.960
those the finest feeling headphones that you've ever hel the only thing I didn't

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:09.800
like was the thing I told you about where which if I moved and looked around

00:38:07.319 --> 00:38:14.280
I could feel them right shift but that's a weight issue that's a weight issue and

00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:18.319
like I I could maybe see them fixing it with a type of headband right or

00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:21.359
something but like that was not a big deal it's not like they slid off my head

00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.839
I could just feel the weight shifting around but the aluminum construction did

00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.640
make them particularly heavy so I definitely noticed it but it's not a big

00:38:27.359 --> 00:38:34.440
deal it's just the only thing I man they're gorgeous I just wish they sounded more appealing to me yeah all

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article was posted on the Forum by top war gamer and this one I'm not sure how

00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:09.520
much credibility there is to it and the original articles from

00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:13.960
uh nintendoenthusiast

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:16.440
decom but Wii U allegedly outsold the

00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:21.680
Xbox One globally last week I'll let you handle this they're linking to Nintendo

00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:24.440
Enthusiast linking no oh wow did they

00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:31.040
smash the previous sales records did they make much

00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:33.760
coin would you have to be on mushrooms to think that it could go any better

00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:38.559
than this keep going keep going keep going

00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:47.280
that's all I had a I liked it so far yeah um so it's it's it was that

00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:49.240
Nintendo Enthusiast linking to VG charts

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:55.680
okay but then VG charts itself is kind of like I don't know so even if it's not

00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:59.680
entirely true we do know that Wii U sold really really well we do know it's doing

00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:04.400
better yeah we know it's doing a lot better recently we also know the 3DS is

00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:09.520
doing a lot better recently although 3DS sales I believe are also including other

00:44:07.720 --> 00:44:16.559
variations of the same generation meaning 2DS and like 3DS

00:44:12.680 --> 00:44:18.760
XL so okay 2DS is probably a really

00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:22.200
large part of that in units terms but it doesn't cost as much as a 3DS and all

00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:26.760
that kind of stuff is in there as well um also other interesting things is

00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:32.760
they're saying like uh Xbox 360 and PS4 PS3 also outsold Xbox One and also

00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:36.000
outsold Wii U for that matter yeah so there's like other interesting things

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:39.440
here and we're not sure how exactly accurate it is one funny thing is is it

00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:44.480
breaks it down to certain regions if you go to the actual website and Japan sold

00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:49.720
40 original ts's

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:54.559
40 it's like what where did they even find them I don't know and why do people

00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:57.240
even want them I'm pretty sure those 40 are probably the only 40 left in in

00:44:56.160 --> 00:45:01.920
existence that don't have broken shoulder buttons so I saw people

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:06.119
commenting that it was possibly like accidental sales mom's trying to buy

00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:11.079
like 2 DS's and walk out of the store with an original one the sales guys is

00:45:08.720 --> 00:45:17.599
like oh sure um yep got one of those here you go

00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:18.839
ma'am please leave quickly don't go back

00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:26.119
uh do you want a gift receipt with the oh sorry we don't do gift receipts because it's

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.960
um uh leprechaun day and you NE never

00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:32.400
trust those leprechauns it's against my religion they return everything um but

00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:36.960
there there's like there's pretty good reasons for it in my opinion you got one

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:42.359
I'm getting one well you're getting one actually it's kind of his Christmas

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:44.559
bonus yep so I I mean this is weird you

00:45:42.359 --> 00:45:50.000
tell people it's like okay instead of cash bonuses I was like I want people to

00:45:47.720 --> 00:45:54.119
look around at the things in their lives and think of me rather than just like

00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.400
some cash that they're going to put as a payment on their car and it's going to

00:45:55.480 --> 00:46:02.079
be boring I want people to do things fun so this year uh Christmas bonuses at

00:45:59.839 --> 00:46:06.880
Linus Media Group were not allowed to be cash I was like look you've got a budget

00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:11.480
you have to spend it or I'm just not going to give it to you and you have to

00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:17.160
buy stuff that's cool so edzel picked himself up one of those awesome Wacom

00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:19.240
tablets that has the digitizer and is a

00:46:17.160 --> 00:46:24.839
full Windows 8 tablet so that's pretty cool it's like a ,000 tablet so I was

00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:26.920
like oh yeah okay I guess I guess I kind

00:46:24.839 --> 00:46:34.280
of underpaid you this year so fine whatever and then this guy uh

00:46:30.839 --> 00:46:37.720
ended up with uh what did you get well I

00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:39.440
got a Wii U and and a KitchenAid mixer a

00:46:37.720 --> 00:46:45.760
kitchen mixer it's like really that's the but every time he drinks a smoothie

00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:48.240
it'll be like well you can use it other

00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:54.440
stuff lus got me this movie which is good and creepy so why

00:46:51.640 --> 00:46:58.559
Wii U though um well okay I'm thinking if if I'm going to play games by myself

00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:02.000
I'm going to play PC games that's how that's going to happen if I'm going to

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:07.280
play games when people come over and hang out at my house it's of like we

00:47:05.319 --> 00:47:12.000
have land parties my group of friends have land parties but sometimes people

00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:16.079
don't have the time or want to drag their computers over and we'll do other stuff and we started doing mine's too

00:47:14.680 --> 00:47:22.599
heavy not that I've ever been invited to one of your land parties you actually have been many times you've never come

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:25.800
cuz you're a jerk um and so like my brother has a giant computer which is

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:29.599
really frustrating to move cuz it's in Cosmos too and it's water cooled and it weighs a ton and stuff like that so it's

00:47:28.319 --> 00:47:36.359
great when we're all separate we all come together we started playing tabletop games and mixing it up a little

00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:39.040
bit so I was thinking we you makes sense

00:47:36.359 --> 00:47:44.599
cuz like a lot of the even Mario Platformers um work with multiple people

00:47:41.319 --> 00:47:46.400
now right and I think with a Wii U on

00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:49.400
some games you can get up to six people because four Wii modes then two gam pads

00:47:48.200 --> 00:47:54.599
twitch chat hates you they're saying you're a peasant now dirty console

00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:57.400
peasant yeah that's okay oh by the way for those of you who are question

00:47:55.680 --> 00:48:01.800
questioning edel's wisdom picking up the Wacom tablet and I don't know why people

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:06.400
Buy tablets I'm not talking about ablet tablet I'm talking about like a a tablet

00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:10.920
tablet that kind of tablet so I mean he's an artist hello so having a tablet

00:48:09.319 --> 00:48:14.319
where you can actually draw directly on the screen and have a tablet that you

00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:18.240
can like watch movies on on the bus he commutes by bus that is a totally

00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:22.240
sensible purchase and I think it's a it's someone's like hashtag Linus is not

00:48:20.359 --> 00:48:25.200
funny hashtag Linus is not funny is better than hasht whatever the no I

00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:29.800
don't want to talk about the other things anymore also another thing is I I

00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:34.240
foresee Xbox One and PS4 emulators coming soon so I can play those

00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:36.640
exclusives on PC if I I'm not going to

00:48:34.240 --> 00:48:40.440
nope totally not going to happen um and Wii U ones I don't really see coming

00:48:38.839 --> 00:48:44.520
yeah it looks like that's been more difficult I it's hard to say up till

00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:49.319
this point whether it hasn't happened because people don't care or whether it

00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:51.400
hasn't happened because it's hard yeah

00:48:49.319 --> 00:48:56.880
no this that's true um there there is more complications than there would be

00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:58.960
for PS4 and Xbox One it's B in to me

00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:02.280
sorry I I'm changing gears a little bit here you can finish that thought I just

00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:06.760
no it's just it's more complicated because of different Hardware things that are inside of a Wii U compared to

00:49:04.839 --> 00:49:11.720
just x86 which is on the other platform I mean was Nintendo playing a poker game

00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:16.559
here it's like yeah we're going to do like um a hardware launch and we're just

00:49:13.640 --> 00:49:23.200
going to like not have Mario and Zelda games yeah because there like up on the

00:49:20.520 --> 00:49:26.640
horizon is Mario Kart 8 for Wii U why wasn't that out yet Super Smash Brothers

00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:30.960
Wii U what are you kidding me that actually wasn't out yet and then like

00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:35.040
another Donkey Kong game but and then we just got Super Mario 3D worldland

00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:38.240
country whatever it's called which is apparently awesome and I'm super stoked

00:49:36.839 --> 00:49:41.559
you're going to let me play that on wi right and that's coming with it because

00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:46.200
that's a really highly rated game that I'm stoked for um but yeah like there's

00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.720
there's stuff on the horizon that's like this wasn't a launch game like Mario

00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:54.520
Kart didn't come out almost immediately afterwards yeah what so that's that's

00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:58.799
baffling but at any rate Wii U might actually be a thing soon so exciting

00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:04.200
speaking of exciting things T-Mobile just seems determined to turn

00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:11.200
the entire Wireless industry on its ear and I love it this is great because what

00:50:08.319 --> 00:50:15.319
happens in America eventually reaches their culturally handicapped cousin in

00:50:13.319 --> 00:50:18.960
the north seems to be taking a long time I'm actually not super sure on the

00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:23.319
mobile side if that's happening here it will have to

00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:27.440
eventually eventually you can't lag behind every other country if you're

00:50:26.040 --> 00:50:32.880
want G to want to be considered a developed country but we seem to be able

00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:34.960
to do that with phones yeah it's it's

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:38.760
not as bad as it used to be as someone who's had a cell phone since like the

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:45.400
first cell phone with a keyboard came out um it's not as bad as it used to be

00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:47.799
not by a long shot so at any rate um he

00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:51.640
he this was posted on like Twitter or something I think I I don't remember

00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:56.359
where he posted it but it was 2013 New Year's resolutions shake up the wireless

00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:01.440
industry so um I don't know if you guys remember but U personally for me the big

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:07.160
one other than ending two-year contracts was making uh roaming making

00:51:04.200 --> 00:51:12.240
international roaming inexpensive what a huge deal what a way to capture the

00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:15.920
people who can afford the baller phone plans because those are the people who

00:51:13.720 --> 00:51:21.720
are typically going to be traveling how amazing is that and of course there's

00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:24.760
4glt and all that for 2014 make waves at

00:51:21.720 --> 00:51:27.240
CES is one of the resolutions give AT&T

00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:30.040
a break or not is one of the other ones and unshackle the family from those

00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:36.079
other guys so there's a lot of speculation right now that what is going

00:51:32.680 --> 00:51:38.200
to be announced is buying helping people

00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:42.119
buy out their contracts yeah and like special plans for families because he

00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:48.240
specifically calls out families they're literally gonna buy

00:51:44.319 --> 00:51:51.760
customers that's awesome I love it I

00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:53.720
would you know I don't mind giving a

00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:58.119
whack ton of money to an internet service provider or a phone provider

00:51:55.319 --> 00:52:03.400
Ider if I can tell that they invested in me and I'm like yeah this service is

00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.000
awesome yeah I mean our new fiber our

00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:10.160
new fiber plan here where we're not dropping any frames anymore um the the I

00:52:08.240 --> 00:52:14.920
mean okay aside from twitch's problems our Upstream is completely lag free and

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:18.559
the quality is much better than before okay I feel okay about paying a bunch of

00:52:16.720 --> 00:52:24.480
money for that but what I feel really okay about is the fact that Tellus on a

00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:27.520
few separate days sent a few separate

00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:29.559
people to to run fiber underground down

00:52:27.520 --> 00:52:35.040
the street for us link it up to our house for us and I know what I paid for

00:52:32.799 --> 00:52:41.280
so for the first year of my service or whatever it is I paid for them to invest

00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:44.000
in me as a customer as opposed to paying

00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:49.119
for them to kind of oh well okay we've got like 12 people on this 10 person

00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:54.599
sort of spot now we can probably squeeze a 13th one in if like we lower our

00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:58.000
global data caps a fair bit and rejig I don't feel good about about that but I

00:52:56.720 --> 00:53:02.119
feel good when you're when you're investing in me so I I really wish like

00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:05.799
my contract is coming up with Tellis and I've been looking around at other

00:53:03.319 --> 00:53:10.480
options and like there's some that might be better but none of them are like we

00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:15.920
are the Glorious awesome side come join us like there isn't a T-Mobile in Canada

00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:22.200
there's like the ever so slightly lesser evil but still evil ones yeah I know I

00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:23.960
mean I'm okay with Belle I think I

00:53:22.200 --> 00:53:27.359
called them buttheads once on the live stream and they actually were really

00:53:25.839 --> 00:53:31.319
good we they were really good for a little while because they got massively

00:53:28.839 --> 00:53:36.040
flamed for it and wanted that to stop well okay but but without calling them

00:53:34.319 --> 00:53:41.520
buttheads at other times since then they've also dealt with stuff and in their defense that time it was something

00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:44.400
particularly complicated and in this time it's because you have a specific

00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:48.400
guy you're dealing with every single time which is the same as you dealt with the first time no no no no I've had to

00:53:47.200 --> 00:53:53.920
do stuff through regular customer service since then as well so your account also might be flagged so I don't

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:57.599
like I'm I'm just saying I don't I don't hate them but I'm not in love with them

00:53:55.799 --> 00:54:02.040
or anything like that I just I just don't know if some of that is special

00:53:59.319 --> 00:54:09.000
consideration hard to say yeah I don't know but yeah okay do we want to get

00:54:05.040 --> 00:54:10.960
into a lonus rant are you guys ready to

00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:13.839
prepare yourselves we could have a funny one before we do that or we could cool

00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:20.720
down with the funny one this is the funny one all right let's do the rant all right all right okay I love lus Tech

00:54:18.359 --> 00:54:24.400
tips Forum but I feel like we've gotten away from our core values a little bit

00:54:22.680 --> 00:54:29.960
particularly in some of the sub forums and I'm not call out any particular

00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:31.880
names in this case but the audio sub

00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:36.920
Forum I've been finding a little bit unfriendly to people so this particular

00:54:34.160 --> 00:54:41.520
thread was someone who posted saying hey I just got a sound card and I really

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:47.720
like it I'm really happy with it my my sound is better and louder and there's

00:54:44.359 --> 00:54:50.240
about five or six pages of people

00:54:47.720 --> 00:54:56.400
crapping on the guy because he didn't have the almighty you know forethought

00:54:53.880 --> 00:55:02.000
to research search the specific places on the internet where the wisdom exists

00:54:59.160 --> 00:55:07.960
that something like a E10 might have been a better option so an external abin

00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:10.640
Dack um and I didn't really find that

00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:14.400
acceptable because of a couple of things number one is that as much as people

00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:19.640
might be right and something like an objective 2 or a file E10 might be a

00:55:17.359 --> 00:55:26.079
better option than pretty much any sound card in some cases nobody even went to

00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:31.400
the trouble to ask a probing question and this is where I feel like a lot of

00:55:28.520 --> 00:55:36.599
audio file people would do well to consider the old saying you'll catch

00:55:33.720 --> 00:55:42.839
more flies with honey than with vinegar rather than being rude and abrasive to

00:55:39.839 --> 00:55:44.880
people who are excited about the same

00:55:42.839 --> 00:55:48.520
thing that you're excited about and rather than being helpful to them and

00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:53.480
and really being welcoming to them making fun of them is just going to

00:55:51.160 --> 00:55:59.039
perpetuate the myths and the misconceptions that you claim to be

00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:00.319
trying to help them with so I'm going

00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:04.480
let that sink in for a minute so the thing that bothered me is that after

00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:09.319
five pages of people telling him that his onboard sound was fine and that the

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:12.119
solution he had used was terrible and that these were all the better Solutions

00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:16.440
and he was basically an idiot for not realizing it and that any perception

00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:21.640
that it sounded better was a placebo effect nobody actually recommended a

00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:26.799
comparable product to the sound card that the op had purchased it was a Zone

00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:32.119
RDG which is a 30 $ sound card remember

00:56:26.799 --> 00:56:34.319
guys $30 for an amp and a DAC and an

00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:39.720
upgraded microphone input the problem people have with onboard sound is not

00:56:36.520 --> 00:56:42.280
always pure sound quality sometimes it's

00:56:39.720 --> 00:56:46.480
sound volume if they're using headphones that are more difficult to drive

00:56:44.520 --> 00:56:51.680
sometimes it's their mic input that is a big steamy pile of garbage sometimes

00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:55.920
it's a driver issue and the external solution might be better to resolve a

00:56:54.440 --> 00:57:00.799
driver issue because most of them are completely driverless or it might not be

00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:06.400
because the driver issue might also be related to the mic in and most external

00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:09.240
sound cards only have a headphone out

00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:15.480
also nobody asked him what onboard sound he was using what we all kind of agree

00:57:12.640 --> 00:57:20.839
on what the audio file Elite seem to agree on is that any sound card on built

00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:26.000
into a motherboard for the last sort of few years at least is pretty darn good

00:57:24.200 --> 00:57:30.039
no one even asked the guy if he was running a 5-year-old board and I had

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:33.720
someone post that if they're running I forget what it was 5-year-old Hardware

00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.880
then they should basically buy a new rig anyway we're talking about a $30 sound

00:57:35.520 --> 00:57:43.480
card not a new rig and we're talking about a seven-year-old rig could

00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:45.559
potentially still have a q6600 in it

00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:51.480
which is perfectly fine for watching YouTube videos and playing indie games

00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:54.559
and even some AAA titles still so the

00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:58.280
elitism and this assumption that a sound

00:57:54.559 --> 00:58:00.359
card is an invalid choice is not true

00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:06.200
whatever videos might be being released on Tech syndicate's channel that are

00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:08.520
elevating products like the objective 2

00:58:06.200 --> 00:58:14.520
or the file E10 or these external products to this deity like status are

00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:17.880
they better yeah actually I personally

00:58:14.520 --> 00:58:20.599
prefer them I can I can

00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:27.200
subjectively tell that something like an O objective 2 Amp has less of a of an

00:58:24.839 --> 00:58:32.680
audible noise floor than something like a sound card I can tell I can't tell on

00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:37.599
all my headphones and it's not something that I would notice necessarily day

00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:40.680
today but I can tell so are they better

00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:42.880
yes but are they necessarily comparable

00:58:40.680 --> 00:58:47.880
I mean an E10 alone costs about 70 Bucks versus the $30 the op spent and an

00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:53.760
objective to amp alone is I think over $150 or somewhere in that range it's

00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:56.960
over $100 anyway and the amp and D combo

00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.680
is over 200 it's around 250 so there you

00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:03.799
go guys I've been asked to weigh in on the whole sound cards versus external

00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:10.240
amps and Dax thing for a while consider that my way in are they better sure are

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:12.599
they always the obvious and only choice

00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:15.960
no that's all there's even there's even some people like I don't want one

00:59:14.720 --> 00:59:20.440
because I don't want another external device at my computer I like the fact

00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:24.920
that my sound card is in my computer now there's someone that I've been interfacing with on the Forum we've been

00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:28.839
talking about how we could maybe possibly mount a deck really far away

00:59:27.400 --> 00:59:33.240
from everything else in our computer and then rote cables and all this kind of stuff so that you could actually have

00:59:31.359 --> 00:59:37.119
one inside your computer but there's also that which people seem to

00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:40.359
completely ignore which is like oh yeah any setup ever can just have this

00:59:38.680 --> 00:59:45.480
external deck don't worry about it it's like no sometimes you want something

00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:51.039
inside your computer yep I don't know there's there's there's quite a few

00:59:47.240 --> 00:59:52.720
reasons but yeah so anyway are we are we

00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:57.440
are we move on time now can we do the you can talk about something else I'm still cooling down

00:59:55.400 --> 01:00:02.720
anyway okay no I have one more thing to say just basically guys look The linest

01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:07.240
Tech tips.com Community was built on being friendly and welcoming to people

01:00:05.319 --> 01:00:12.680
that's how we've grown so fast that's how we've got almost 50,000 members in

01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:17.200
the first year of existence we will not keep that up if we are unfriendly to

01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:20.799
people it's fine to tell someone that something is a better option but if they

01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:25.599
already bought it think about what you're saying why would you just crap on

01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:29.280
them for something they already bought you can you can ask a gently probing

01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:33.680
question like hey are you still within your return window here's another option

01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:38.839
you may have considered but the cold hard fact of the matter is that in that

01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:40.880
particular thread anyway the op wanted

01:00:38.839 --> 01:00:46.240
the sound to be louder they bought a sound card with an amp mission

01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:50.200
accomplished is it as perfect as some other solution might have been maybe not

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:56.480
but that doesn't mean you need to be a jerk about it there it's also an international Forum do o2s get shipped

01:00:53.799 --> 01:00:59.799
everywhere I'm not not sure uh I know that there are builders in Europe if

01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:03.799
nothing else okay cuz it's just an open design so lot there's lots of lots of

01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:07.119
guys that do it yeah yeah are you good no I'm done now you're

01:01:06.160 --> 01:01:10.400
done now I'm just going to have some water okay um I I don't know how we're

01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:16.960
going to look at this one because I think he's done but if you want to go to the massive iPod one uh it's just the

01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:20.599
one right below we first have to ignore the picture that's on the thread because

01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:27.039
as you can probably tell upon immediately seeing it that's totally not

01:01:23.319 --> 01:01:29.480
what it's going to look like um but

01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:33.359
anyways it's a 12 point it's a massive massive iPod and people are specul or

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:36.280
iPad sorry people are speculating what it would be used You could argue an iPad

01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:42.079
is a massive iPod yeah it is is it not yeah I'm just

01:01:40.839 --> 01:01:47.440
saying you corrected yourself but you weren't quite wrong not entirely I guess

01:01:45.160 --> 01:01:53.000
um so so it's it's huge and part of the problem is that I can't see anyone

01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:55.319
holding it to use it like what 12.9 in

01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:00.640
12.9 in I believe that's not that much smaller than this or wait hold on I mean

01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:05.039
is that even that big this is 12 so just pull that for context for the people

01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:11.039
it's still weird like I don't like it's this is

01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:11.039
still really weird to

01:02:11.279 --> 01:02:17.279
hold okay no that's going to be heavier

01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:21.400
than the iPad would be um but and people are speculating about possibly bigger

01:02:18.839 --> 01:02:25.359
ones too because it's supposed to and the problem with this is I think that a

01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:29.520
name may have le and then everything else was Creed around

01:02:27.160 --> 01:02:35.119
it which is part of a problem so I've been like I walked by a Mac store uh the

01:02:33.319 --> 01:02:37.880
other day how was that for you it was actually kind of weird did the light

01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:42.640
from the inside of the store burn your skin it's so bright have you noticed

01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:49.240
that and everything's white I'm just like oh my God anyways I the iMac are

01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:50.480
super super thin mhm so if anything I

01:02:49.240 --> 01:02:55.839
kind of thought that maybe they're coming out with another iMac style

01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:57.880
product that's running iOS M like maybe

01:02:55.839 --> 01:03:01.720
it has a stand or maybe it has a stand and you can take it off the stand is

01:02:59.279 --> 01:03:06.319
that legitimately interesting to you no you've never really used iOS

01:03:04.160 --> 01:03:11.240
extensively have you not extensively I have used it though it's not a bad

01:03:08.680 --> 01:03:16.680
experience I don't like the store and I don't like the lack of some

01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:19.200
options but like once once it's all once you're kind of done setting everything

01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:24.799
up and you're done downloading all your apps and you're done doing all that kind of stuff cuz I don't like the store at

01:03:21.520 --> 01:03:26.799
all um it's fine and once you're in an

01:03:24.799 --> 01:03:30.960
app it's the same what's not to like about the store it works basically the

01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:35.880
same way in fact I would say if I was going to I don't like the the login

01:03:33.160 --> 01:03:40.480
protection stuff it seems like a waste of time oh I think you can disable it

01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:44.880
now now yeah okay that wasn't a thing before when I used it but it's been a

01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:47.960
while I don't know I've never done like a I'm going to switch to iOS for a while

01:03:46.680 --> 01:03:51.599
I've just been like oh I'm trying to use your device oh I trying to download oh

01:03:50.240 --> 01:03:55.599
you know what we should do you know how we've done I switch hold on hold on hold

01:03:53.720 --> 01:04:01.400
on just you know how we've done I switched

01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:04.799
in the past you and I should both switch

01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:08.319
to OS 10 at the same time OS 10 for a

01:04:04.799 --> 01:04:09.599
month H just on our work computers

01:04:08.319 --> 01:04:13.520
that's going to make it worse actually no it won't yeah because it runs Excel

01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:18.079
that's all I do on that you don't have to use it all time you know what I'm going to do I'm going to I'm going to

01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:22.680
turn it on I'm going to open Excel and then I'm going to do everything else off

01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:25.839
of it and I'll just type into Excel that

01:04:22.680 --> 01:04:27.599
is that is not that is not the spirit of

01:04:25.839 --> 01:04:32.839
the experiment that we would be trying I've probably used iOS more than or OS X

01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:36.680
more than you have I used to work in repair shops I've hardly used it at all

01:04:35.279 --> 01:04:42.400
I've worked in repair shops like every time it's it's funny cameraman the old

01:04:39.200 --> 01:04:45.440
like cameraman cameraman back at NC used

01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:47.480
to be he would just be in stitches every

01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:51.240
time he watched me try to use a Mac because I'd like sit down in front of

01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:55.440
his computer and like without realizing it expose all over the streen I'm like

01:04:53.720 --> 01:05:00.599
how do I get to the how do I get to the window I'm trying to see and then there was a grand opening of like an Apple

01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:03.680
Store type thing that had some iMac and I like sat down in front of it and I was

01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:08.079
like trying to launch a program and I couldn't figure out how to find I was

01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:13.799
like I honestly I would have settled for any program couldn't launch a

01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:17.359
program it's it's yeah it's weird the the problem for me is it's supposed to

01:05:15.279 --> 01:05:21.720
be super intuitive but because of everything else I've used it's totally

01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:25.319
not and I have no idea what's going on speaking of intuitive I played around

01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:31.000
with Steam OS finally today um it doesn't do much but it works sort of uh

01:05:28.359 --> 01:05:36.119
the Xbox 360 wireless controller was easier to get running using on Windows

01:05:33.279 --> 01:05:39.599
were you using that box the uh the The Raven one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:44.079
yeah I took it to NCIX today we still filmed them at an episode with it but

01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:47.640
like the wireless controller just worked

01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:49.039
honestly drivers for Linux haven't

01:05:47.640 --> 01:05:53.119
usually been that big of a problem lately lately not we're not talking

01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:56.119
about 5 years ago but like even like I was talking to you the other day

01:05:54.799 --> 01:06:00.480
every time I've installed Linux on something that had Wireless or land they

01:05:58.720 --> 01:06:06.200
both have worked immediately it's remarkable how many network cards don't

01:06:04.160 --> 01:06:10.839
automatically install Intel network cards that don't automatically install

01:06:08.640 --> 01:06:13.799
on Windows 7 and Windows 8 yeah uh anyway and that's the biggest thing is

01:06:12.359 --> 01:06:17.680
as long as you get network working and like an input device I can go manually

01:06:16.279 --> 01:06:21.559
do the rest of it I don't care I'm kind of stoked on Steam OS I think what I'm

01:06:19.279 --> 01:06:25.720
going to do cuz I have a media center PC once they get things like Netflix

01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:31.039
streaming and a proper desktop experience that kind um yeah browser

01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:34.960
based but I I want an app like if I'm going to use something I would want to

01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:39.000
be able to control it completely with either valves controller or an Xbox 360

01:06:37.240 --> 01:06:46.200
controller and you know what this is going to okay this is going to sound super ignorant but I I I I I just about

01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:50.799
like lost it when I saw that mozilla's browser on Linux is called ice

01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:57.119
weasel I was like what is that a knockoff no it's made by Mozilla is it

01:06:54.680 --> 01:07:02.279
I've used Firefox on Linux before yeah you've never heard of ice

01:06:59.359 --> 01:07:06.359
weasel ice weasel versus Firefox yeah I was like what cuz I was like you look at

01:07:04.839 --> 01:07:09.720
the logo for it here I'll pull up the logo for okay for so for those of you

01:07:08.200 --> 01:07:16.359
who are like me and have never heard of ice weasel I'll pull up the uh logo here

01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:16.359
but it's like hilarious get ice

01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:29.920
weasel.com I I just I'd never heard of this one okay okay I was I was like oh

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:33.599
that's hilarious it's yeah no I I'd never heard of it being a part of the

01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:38.680
mailla project I knew I knew there was I've heard of it in general I've also

01:07:35.319 --> 01:07:40.039
heard of waterf fox waterfox is a as I

01:07:38.680 --> 01:07:43.799
don't know if it still is but this was it when I used to use it was it was a

01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:49.079
further back version of Firefox which is super performance optimized ah and they

01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:52.039
would take Firefox versions performance optimized them and then release them

01:07:50.359 --> 01:07:55.160
under waterf Fox I don't know if that's what they're still doing I haven't used

01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:59.160
it for a long time because I've been running nightly forever um but yeah

01:07:58.240 --> 01:08:04.680
there there's a lot of different versions CU it's open so I'm not super

01:08:01.799 --> 01:08:07.880
surprised and given how unstable the official one's been lately I'm kind of

01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:10.079
tempted to try maybe I should switch to ice

01:08:10.279 --> 01:08:15.520
weasel well ice weasel is Debian so I

01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:20.520
don't know is it does it work on maybe I'll just switch to deian I don't game

01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:22.480
Much Anymore anyway you know what when I

01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:26.839
I tell you what guys I will commit this now the reason that I haven't switched

01:08:24.679 --> 01:08:32.560
over to Linux uh just even to do a 30-day I switched is because I can't

01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:35.159
afford the productivity hit once I have

01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:38.880
Steam OS streaming working oh cuz you're not used to it yeah cuz I'm not used to

01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:43.880
it I I I have too much work to do I was like what no no no no no no um once game

01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:46.920
streaming works and the other thing is when I do want to play a game I don't

01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:51.440
want to mess around with which one's compatible with Linux and waste my time

01:08:48.759 --> 01:08:55.560
on that so when game streaming is working in Steam OS I will do a 30-day

01:08:53.560 --> 01:09:01.520
Linux I switched I will put my Windows gaming box in my server room and I will

01:08:59.080 --> 01:09:04.759
only stream from it so you I will do that with you if you want although it

01:09:03.080 --> 01:09:08.920
might be boring yeah I think yours will be very uninteresting the entire series

01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:12.759
of videos will be me being like whoa this and you being like yeah we've had

01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:17.400
that for like 10 years oh my God you can make a cube

01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:22.159
desktop I've seen that actually I am aware of that and you can get that for

01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:28.040
Windows as well smarty pants yeah I know all right uh so this is post posted on

01:09:24.679 --> 01:09:31.000
the Forum by top war gamer along with uh

01:09:28.040 --> 01:09:36.960
a comment by top war gamer that that probably isn't a thing but uh so this

01:09:34.440 --> 01:09:43.319
was posted by uh okay so we're posting from TechnoBuffalo and then they're uh

01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:45.759
reposting from oh bollocks pretty sure

01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:49.719
it's in their micro AIS micro micro AIS or something like that anyway micro AIS

01:09:48.080 --> 01:10:00.640
the point is these numbers suggest that Sony's possibility of bankruptcy is 78.4

01:09:53.719 --> 01:10:00.640
49% in the next 2 years which I find

01:10:00.679 --> 01:10:06.360
both plausible and very very difficult

01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:10.960
to believe because you look at Sony's business practices over the last 10

01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:15.000
years they are one of the least consumer friendly companies in existence they're

01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:19.360
like trying to see in how many places they can stab themselves Yes except for

01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:24.159
PlayStation except for PlayStation well even even PlayStation like they they are

01:10:22.360 --> 01:10:29.640
not necessarily they're not pushing the industry forward

01:10:26.040 --> 01:10:31.679
no PS4 was maintaining the status quo

01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:37.120
the only reason they got so much Applause for it was that Microsoft was

01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:41.880
busy firing off like shotgun rounds into their own feet at the same time like

01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:45.800
that is the only be really interesting to see a battle between these two I mean

01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:50.120
PlayStation 4 some of the things that were supposed to be Forward Thinking

01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:57.120
about PS4 aren't even implemented out of the gate like the like no DRM on the

01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:59.600
HDMI output why is hdcp still there for

01:10:57.120 --> 01:11:04.719
gameplay son's like yeah we support twitch live streaming but you don't you

01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:10.800
can't archive the footage so just live streaming yeah yeah look at us we're

01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:12.920
Sony we're cool now right yeah pop the

01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:18.159
color it's like they think popping your color is still cool that Sony I mean the

01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:21.080
kind of crap they pull whether it's on the consumer grade products or on the

01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:27.000
professional grade products like the ones that we use make the put consumers

01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:31.199
in a frame of mind where it's like I might have to buy this right now but as

01:11:29.360 --> 01:11:35.960
soon as I have another option I will never buy any of your stuff I was two

01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:41.120
months out of warranty on a button okay on a button on a hand grip for an

01:11:38.480 --> 01:11:47.960
$88,000 camera and they refused to deal with it that was when I was in the

01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:50.760
service shop paying $400 for a firmware

01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:54.440
upgrade this is the kind of crap that people don't want to deal with so when

01:11:52.719 --> 01:11:59.040
that open source camera thing that Brandon's all excited about rolls around

01:11:57.120 --> 01:12:03.960
or I mean even guys like black magic allowing you to do things like use any

01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:05.800
SSD you want as media for the camera as

01:12:03.960 --> 01:12:10.360
newer Innovative companies that have a more forward-thinking way of doing

01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:13.159
business come around I do see Sony going out of business but that's what that

01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:17.120
brings in the Google argument that we talked about they they rode in on the

01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:22.639
shoulders of being open and now they're closing everything down what Sony Google

01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:26.840
oh okay yeah yeah cuz Sony was never open no oh so you think that someone

01:12:24.639 --> 01:12:30.440
like black magic might gain popularity by being cheap and accessible cheap

01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:35.480
accessible open all that kind of stuff they're so welcoming to but it's always

01:12:32.679 --> 01:12:40.440
cyclical yeah no I don't like you know it's always cyclical and I

01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:44.199
mean Sony still has time to stop being buttholes yeah that that was my thing is

01:12:42.679 --> 01:12:47.920
like if they don't react at all that would be the weirdest thing ever either

01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:51.920
way they own enough they own enough patents and they have enough assets that

01:12:49.639 --> 01:12:55.360
I really don't see them like if they if they sit on patents liquidate a few

01:12:53.719 --> 01:13:01.000
things and just kind of like chill and just try to develop things that are making money then they'll probably be

01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:05.800
fine so there was some interesting discussion in the uh in the thread that

01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:10.080
I thought was that I thought was really you know actually kind of uh informative

01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:13.480
so people were discussing some of the buildings Sony's had to sell over the

01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:17.800
last couple of years and the fact that they are in quite Dire Straits the fact

01:13:15.080 --> 01:13:22.080
that they are losing money on each PS4 on what I personally believe is a

01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:26.360
completely dead business model the traditional console so well I guess

01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:30.719
we'll see maybe it's as I don't think they're going to go bankrupt no I don't think but I think crazy things might

01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:34.480
happen I think crazy things could happen all right I'm going let you handle this

01:13:32.120 --> 01:13:40.040
one entirely because you are pretty stoked on this topic super stoked so

01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:44.000
it's it's short to actually put the premise out there what it is is they're

01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:48.239
adapting USB so it can do 20 volts 5 amps which is essentially 100 watts and

01:13:46.280 --> 01:13:54.440
it's bir directional power and can still transfer data and it can the power can

01:13:50.639 --> 01:13:56.480
be renegotiated as needed now

01:13:54.440 --> 01:14:01.360
didn't the B directional power thing basically you could power your laptop

01:13:58.639 --> 01:14:03.960
you could power your monitors those are two very common things that you could

01:14:02.679 --> 01:14:10.080
power with this because they're within that wattage range now with B directional power you could use a USB

01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:13.480
battery pack to power your laptop or you could use your laptop to power a USB

01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:16.840
battery pack which is actually really cool so if

01:14:15.679 --> 01:14:20.800
your laptop's full battery and you're plugged into a wall say and you don't

01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:24.760
need more power you can plug in a USB battery pack and shove it towards the

01:14:22.480 --> 01:14:28.000
USB battery pack if your laptop's dying and you have a USB battery pack in your

01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:31.960
bag you can plug in USB battery pack and shove the power towards your laptop and

01:14:29.719 --> 01:14:35.000
power it back up or just keep it running or like even something like a phone it's

01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:41.000
like I'm desperate I need to get that document off my laptop oh

01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:42.639
yeah yes success it's actually just like

01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:45.400
anything you can just be like nope sap the power put it here and I'm really

01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:52.840
excited about the new kinds of peripherals that this will enable so things like being able to run a full

01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:56.480
performance monitor off of a USB port is like pretty cool and then if that

01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:59.719
monitor has a USB hub you could also run a keyboard and mouse full power and

01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:06.000
flash drives and everything because that's that's a worry is if a keyboard doesn't have two cables coming from it

01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:09.440
you often don't use the USB hub that's built into it because your flash drive

01:15:07.679 --> 01:15:14.040
is going to run super slow or your mouse won't really work super great or

01:15:11.360 --> 01:15:17.320
whatever so if if you can do one nice cable that runs all the power you could

01:15:15.400 --> 01:15:21.159
need that would be sweet yeah I'm pretty excited I think that this does a couple

01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:26.080
of things so one is it improves the flexibility of the user experience and

01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:27.800
number to is it positions USB 3 as a

01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:31.960
legitimate alternative to Thunderbolt I mean Thunderbolts already seen a bump to

01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:36.960
20 gbit but USB 3 is going to be coming at 10 gbit and when you consider that it

01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:43.280
can carry this massive amount of power as well being being able to use USB I

01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:47.320
mean USB 3 10 gigabit is going to be

01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:49.920
lots of data for your monitor for your

01:15:47.320 --> 01:15:53.760
keyboard mouse card reader and all that stuff to the point where you could have

01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:58.360
a dock that's just USB 3 and and no extra power even if you use low power

01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:04.920
peripherals and the whole thing just works so it's pretty sweet renegotiable

01:16:02.679 --> 01:16:11.080
which renegotiated it is able to be renegotiated now I wasn't entirely sure

01:16:07.239 --> 01:16:12.800
if that was like you use some type of UI

01:16:11.080 --> 01:16:17.040
or something to tell it what way you want the power to go be automatic how

01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:20.480
exactly that works yeah but it just say I I'm guessing maybe like this device is

01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:24.040
lower on Power and this one has a ton let's go that way I don't know exactly

01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:28.320
what it's saying that um but I believe you can use less or

01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:32.520
more so if you have a device that doesn't have battery in it but needs to

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:37.239
draw Power say a monitor it doesn't have to take 100 Watts you could take the

01:16:35.280 --> 01:16:41.560
like 25 Point whatever that it's probably going to be which is pretty

01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:45.679
cool all right so this is a pretty short one but as someone who is playing

01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:51.560
through uh Wolf Among Us and we'll be starting Walking Dead Season 2 very soon

01:16:48.639 --> 01:16:56.239
um I'm pretty stoked on this uh Telltale spills details on game Game of Thrones

01:16:54.800 --> 01:17:00.600
as well as Tales from the Borderlands which I am significantly less excited

01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:06.159
about I think everyone's like yeah Game of Thrones and more stuff yeah that

01:17:03.400 --> 01:17:09.080
other thing that I mean how was story a strong point for Borderlands I mean

01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:13.199
maybe Telltale can turn it into something interesting but really

01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:18.199
Borderlands story I didn't play Borderlands 2 but I did play Borderlands

01:17:15.360 --> 01:17:23.280
one and I think yachy probably put it best and the entire plot of Borderlands

01:17:20.400 --> 01:17:27.520
seems to be go shoot Jason bores in a SC yard I mean that sometimes you're

01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:31.560
stealing something sometimes you're avenging someone sometimes you're

01:17:29.679 --> 01:17:38.800
stealing something and avenging someone but that's the entire game and so yeah I

01:17:35.120 --> 01:17:41.159
don't know anyway I love how they came

01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:43.280
the story for Borderlands 2 as well it's like there was Vault hunters and they

01:17:42.280 --> 01:17:52.800
got a vault and then they opened the Vault what are we going to do another Vault new Vault it's like we need more

01:17:48.480 --> 01:17:54.520
vaults all the vaults no he like I

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:56.960
didn't mind the story line it was actually it was nice and funny and I

01:17:55.880 --> 01:18:03.320
like the characters and stuff like that I was just like that's not the reason why I think too many people bought it

01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:09.400
all right this is this is like the most predictable news of the Year AMD

01:18:06.400 --> 01:18:10.960
announces mantle uh well the man well

01:18:09.400 --> 01:18:15.159
mantle in itself isn't necessarily delayed but the Battlefield 4 patch

01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:19.800
supporting mantle has been delayed it was supposed to come out in December but

01:18:17.440 --> 01:18:24.960
I I think it was like around Christmas time and I was like looking at my watch

01:18:21.280 --> 01:18:27.760
and I was like hm so the devs are

01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:31.480
probably at home with their families and we don't have a patch yet and there's

01:18:29.719 --> 01:18:35.560
probably like time after Christmas where they're still going to be everyone's

01:18:33.320 --> 01:18:39.639
going to be hung over on the 1st and everyone's going to leave early on the

01:18:37.080 --> 01:18:44.000
31st so like realistically and then like two days

01:18:41.480 --> 01:18:49.800
later I got the email I was like yep we're not going to make it uh so they're

01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:55.639
they're saying January sometime now I don't think we have a clear indication

01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:57.280
as to why it was delayed or exactly when

01:18:55.639 --> 01:19:01.239
it's coming but I think the general consensus on the Internet is that it's

01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:05.440
because Battlefield 4 is such a broken mess in other ways that adding a new API

01:19:03.719 --> 01:19:09.560
to it is a low priority I hope that's the reason I hope

01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:15.239
that's the reason I hope that it's they're not it's not difficulty implementing mantle because I'm pretty

01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:19.360
excited to test mantle actually like really excited to test mantle yeah

01:19:17.480 --> 01:19:23.520
exactly and I hope there's no real bugs with mantle I what I'm hoping is that

01:19:21.280 --> 01:19:26.480
it's going to be this huge and EA is going to try to use it as a huge

01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:30.800
purchasing blitz so that people will buy the game which I'm going to be okay with

01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:34.800
because hopefully they fix everything when they do that so if they bug fix it

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:38.639
and hit it with mantle at the same time and then do a campaign around that they

01:19:36.719 --> 01:19:45.000
can be like pf4 revitalized go buy the game now $

01:19:41.679 --> 01:19:47.080
22.99 CU or lower because prices don't

01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:51.400
seem to mean anything yeah buying games at launch seems to be just crazy these

01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:56.480
days it's like you can get AAA titles for half price usually two three weeks

01:19:53.560 --> 01:20:02.040
after launch what the hell all right uh speaking of Battlefield 4 this was

01:19:58.360 --> 01:20:04.719
actually posted last week by aliz and

01:20:02.040 --> 01:20:10.960
Battlefield 4 is now officially banned in China even talking about it on their

01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:14.800
largest social media Network I can never remember what that bloody thing is

01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:22.159
called because I never actually go there but it's kind of relevant hold on

01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:24.159
I is it wo wo weeo I don't know can't

01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:29.920
remember probably pronouncing it wrong anyway weo weibo.com okay so no

01:20:27.280 --> 01:20:35.239
downloads no patches no demos no promotional materials no news reports

01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:40.120
about Battlefield 4 China's Ministry of culture issued a notice prohibiting all

01:20:37.679 --> 01:20:44.960
materials related to the game in any form including game downloads okay I

01:20:42.679 --> 01:20:49.560
apparently wrote that twice calling it a threat to National Security and a form

01:20:47.360 --> 01:20:55.080
of cultural aggression I think they're specifically talking about the China

01:20:51.280 --> 01:20:57.360
Rising DLC um but Battlefield 4 single

01:20:55.080 --> 01:21:01.840
player too including and I'm gonna pronounce this wrong it's like

01:20:59.400 --> 01:21:07.280
S4 something like that like whatever the Chinese translation of Battlefield 4 is

01:21:04.400 --> 01:21:11.320
like that term is just completely banned um across the board apparently people

01:21:10.080 --> 01:21:15.560
are still trading it back and forth using P2P networks which is actually

01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:19.760
kind of Epic which is unexpected and unusual I don't know why anyone would

01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:23.600
think that was going to happen at all what you can't just erase things

01:21:22.040 --> 01:21:27.080
from the internet that was a meme a while ago when was

01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:32.000
that who who tried doing that that was awesome I think it was the US no I

01:21:29.679 --> 01:21:36.960
thought it was some actress she ordered that her pictures be removed from the

01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:39.040
internet yeah that was what it was um um

01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:42.320
I don't remember who it was cuz I didn't moved from the but I thought it was

01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:47.639
funny that she thought she could just do that was it like Beyonce or something

01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:51.080
maybe I'll see if it was I'll see if it was

01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:56.120
Beyonce seems like the kind of thing yeah yeah yeah Beyonce's public IST asks

01:21:53.880 --> 01:22:00.960
the internet to remove unflattering Beyonce pictures hello Internet can you

01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:06.480
remove these photos for me please it's like you know what the cold hard truth

01:22:03.480 --> 01:22:08.920
is that and Beyonce is no exception most

01:22:06.480 --> 01:22:14.320
celebrities are not particularly attractive my favorite thing is uh an

01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:16.679
illusion America's Next Top Model oh not

01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:21.080
attractive yeah not easy to put makeup on yeah I mean the thing about it is

01:22:19.239 --> 01:22:26.120
just and I'm not saying that like you know ugly people aren't valuable or

01:22:23.480 --> 01:22:31.400
something like that I'm just saying that this unrealistic standard of beauty

01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:33.679
isn't real and and

01:22:31.400 --> 01:22:36.440
like what we think these people look like has nothing to do with anything

01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:43.000
actually I think self Park probably did it best that's the probably the strongest episode of South Park that

01:22:39.320 --> 01:22:45.040
I've seen in W probably a couple years

01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:49.040
is the have you seen the one where Wendy I can imagine Wendy goes after all the

01:22:47.080 --> 01:22:52.280
girls for negative body image because there's one girl that's getting picked

01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:56.639
on or something so she photoshops her to look unrealistic and amazing and then all the

01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:59.639
boys are all of a sudden like oh wow and they everyone wants to date her even

01:22:58.360 --> 01:23:04.719
though in person she still doesn't actually look any different she's still a normal person but then that girl gets

01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:08.600
an attitude about it and then all the other girls Photoshop themselves and

01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:13.040
turns into a big I mean it's like it's South Park right so everything goes from

01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:19.560
bad to worse but the point of it is unrealistic and it's dumb okay Haswell e

01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:25.000
pricing has been leaked and there are absolutely no surprises to anyone who

01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:26.960
has seen Intel high-end CPU pricing

01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:30.000
structure in the last decade there was people freaking out about this and I was

01:23:28.320 --> 01:23:36.000
like oh those are numbers that make sense and have been here before okay so

01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:39.960
the i7 whatever 60x will be $1,000 just

01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:42.880
like it's been since the 96 5x or the

01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:49.440
925 x or whatever the original one was that was a long time ago guys um they I

01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:51.480
they the whatever 30k will be around 600

01:23:49.440 --> 01:23:55.880
yes and it's an eight core now which is awesome both of them are rumored to be

01:23:52.920 --> 01:24:01.199
eight cores and the whatever 20 will be unlocked again just like Ive and it will

01:23:58.120 --> 01:24:03.400
be around 400 it's like and it's a six

01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:08.120
core now instead of a quad core so this this positions Haswell e too actually in

01:24:06.040 --> 01:24:12.440
my mind I'm I'm I'm not disappointed in any way by this the pricing is exactly

01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:17.639
where we'd expect it to be and it will position Haswell e as legitimate

01:24:15.080 --> 01:24:22.440
performance upgrade to the mainstream socket for the first time in a couple

01:24:20.120 --> 01:24:26.199
Generations now I think this is great for high amount of cores well yeah but

01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:29.840
where else is there going to be more no I know but that's yeah and the clock

01:24:28.040 --> 01:24:34.760
speeds should be similar I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be I think

01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:39.360
uh what one was it I think they're they're a little bit lower are they not

01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:44.280
uh they might be there's more anyway the uh this was posted by vus hun on the

01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:49.280
Forum and uh the original article is from tech power up but at any rate we're

01:24:46.679 --> 01:24:54.159
looking at a Haswell refresh sometime in Q4 2014 so we still have to wait about a

01:24:51.760 --> 01:25:00.320
year for it and we'll also get an x99 chipset so after several long years x79

01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:04.880
will finally be replaced but I'm I'm pretty excited about it it seems like it

01:25:02.119 --> 01:25:10.119
should actually matter unlike Ivy bridg e quite frankly ddr4 will be interesting

01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:11.280
here ddr4 will be uninteresting well

01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:15.400
it's going to be interesting because everyone that wants to move to this is going to have to buy new RAM and it's

01:25:13.679 --> 01:25:18.600
probably going to be crazy expensive oh okay so instead of like for the last

01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:23.080
while where people have been able to go like okay new motherboard new processor

01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:27.239
you know have to get new RAM and with the problems that that one Factory had

01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:32.000
which made a lot of RAM like double in price and the fact that it's going to be

01:25:29.440 --> 01:25:35.679
new type of RAM I think it's going to be actually a really significant part of

01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:40.000
the cost of moving to that P yeah we've seen that time and time again I mean uh

01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:44.040
that and the early growing pains with a new memory technology are terrible I

01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:50.000
mean I don't know if any of you guys watching Remember

01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:52.880
680i and ddr2 Holy balls you couldn't

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:58.639
get four sticks of RAM running in that reference board unless you were like

01:25:55.679 --> 01:26:02.159
blessed by the spirit of Gabe in like it just wasn't going to work and I mean it

01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:06.920
wasn't it wasn't like the other platforms were in any better shape and

01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:10.760
back when DDR3 first launched I remember like I was building Enthusiast grade

01:26:08.639 --> 01:26:17.320
systems for people at the time and I'd be like please buy

01:26:13.360 --> 01:26:18.800
ddr2 please buy ddr2 because you know

01:26:17.320 --> 01:26:22.800
it's cross oh wait no I'm thinking of ddr1 to ddr2 sorry sorry sorry sorry

01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:29.400
sorry sorry sorry back when that was happen I was like yeah please buy ddr1

01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:31.520
because the ddr2 version of that board

01:26:29.400 --> 01:26:35.800
doesn't perform any better and it's a lot more expensive and yeah this is

01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:41.080
super dumb because it's not stable at all uh DDR3 had a lot of problems at the

01:26:38.400 --> 01:26:44.760
beginning too so I'm worried about this I'm I'm worried about it for a few

01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:49.880
reasons the price thing um it working at all availability all that kind of stuff

01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:54.920
is it might be pretty mature by then so that's a thing maybe it'll have been

01:26:52.719 --> 01:26:57.639
available for them to work on for like over a year by that point in time it's

01:26:56.639 --> 01:27:02.239
just going to be it's going to be an interesting thing that because a lot of there's a lot of good coming with a

01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:06.199
processor a lot of people are stok for the processor but then there's a lot of

01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:10.320
not necessarily good coming from something else that I think people are

01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:13.520
not looking at as much as they maybe should be and I'm worried about people

01:27:11.639 --> 01:27:18.239
that are going to adopt like immediately and jump right on it before anything

01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:22.400
real information gets out there and any like actual good stability testing and

01:27:20.280 --> 01:27:26.440
then get screwed because it it cost fair amount of money and then maybe they have

01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:30.679
this super unstable platform so NASA was using Oculus and a connect to control a

01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:37.760
robot ARM it's actually super cool and it kind

01:27:34.400 --> 01:27:39.119
of totally makes sense like it's it's

01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:42.719
one of the few NASA things that I haven't been like holy crap how did you

01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:47.960
think of that it's like oh yeah people have been pretty much doing

01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:54.520
that that makes sense now we're going to do it in space woo why is this not

01:27:51.080 --> 01:27:57.159
playing go oh thank you so they have

01:27:54.520 --> 01:28:00.480
this like triple fingered robot ARM and it goes pretty one thing I noticed is it

01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:03.960
it doesn't seem to be like there's a little bit of latency here hold on we're

01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:11.280
going to pause and let you guys look at a we missed that go

01:28:07.360 --> 01:28:12.760
back we missed it there we go so head

01:28:11.280 --> 01:28:17.000
mounted display I think what they mean to say is

01:28:15.080 --> 01:28:21.400
Oculus motion tracker

01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:26.400
connect robotic ARM and I think what they mean is

01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:26.400
MF and robotic ARM

01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:34.119
so what's going on it's a touch pad there we

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:35.760
go a check so you can see it's moving

01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:40.880
with them but there seems to be slight delay well it's a connect so it's a

01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:45.639
giant pie yeah so old

01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:48.840
technology Xbox One connects for PC m is

01:28:45.639 --> 01:28:48.840
probably pretty stoked for

01:28:50.080 --> 01:28:58.360
that yeah love the

01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:58.360
sticker a block man that's

01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:08.600
cool it seems to either it doesn't have a ton of strength in the fingers or it

01:29:06.440 --> 01:29:13.960
like doesn't apply too much pressure automatically I hope because when he

01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:15.960
grabs he closes his fist right but he's

01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:23.080
probably just trying to get it to manage to register the motion yeah definitely

01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:25.840
definitely will not to very

01:29:23.080 --> 01:29:29.639
cool so actually I think this ties in pretty nicely with a couple of the other

01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:32.480
things so why don't we just go ahead and and run through all of these before we

01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:36.920
start to talk about them does that make sense or do you want to do them one by one run through all of these yeah cuz

01:29:35.480 --> 01:29:40.679
there's the other ones with the camera mounted Oculus I guess that's kind of

01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:44.239
different okay well I don't know I don't know what else there's to say about this

01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:48.679
other than Microsoft can you please please stop treating platforms other

01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:52.119
than Xbox like second class citizens can we please have support on the PC for the

01:29:50.639 --> 01:29:55.880
Xbox One controller not that I particularly think it's that great or

01:29:53.800 --> 01:30:00.199
better than the Xbox 360 controller and can we please have connect 2 I don't

01:29:58.360 --> 01:30:05.440
even care about the Xbox One controller as long as they keep selling Xbox 360

01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:09.119
ones I just think it should work yeah no I agree I think that if you're going to

01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:14.159
come out and say yeah we value PC Gamers and PC gaming and then yeah you know the

01:30:12.040 --> 01:30:18.800
latest sort of thing we spent like you know years and years and all this money

01:30:16.679 --> 01:30:22.560
developing only for our console customers it's kind of really weird yeah

01:30:20.960 --> 01:30:25.639
I don't like that at all ridiculous um where did those other ones

01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:30.960
go what are you talking about did we already talk about they're in the topic oh that's why I was confused as you were

01:30:29.320 --> 01:30:34.840
scrolling around you were highlighting them

01:30:33.320 --> 01:30:38.600
almost no okay what are you talking about I'm

01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:42.320
talking about the camera mounted thing yeah that's there that's that yes I

01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:47.600
thought they were separate somewhere else in the dog no because I found those

01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:50.440
while I was researching this one

01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:56.480
oh okay well at any rate here's some other cool videos if I could find the

01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:59.639
thing so the the the thing verse thingy

01:30:56.480 --> 01:31:00.800
verse is the where the idea to C off

01:30:59.639 --> 01:31:08.199
originated from so we should see that one first all right so let's check this one

01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:09.920
out so make MakerBot thingy verse has

01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:13.239
this whole thing so you can mount a camera on the front of an Oculus Rift

01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:17.480
and if you scroll down a little bit and change what picture is displaying they

01:31:15.040 --> 01:31:20.600
actually show you like exactly how it kind of works and it's not super

01:31:18.719 --> 01:31:27.239
complicated and you're essentially able to 3D print this self which is really

01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:29.639
cool and the idea is that it can see

01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:36.280
outward yeah so there's a short video here where they demo it with

01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:38.719
um so you can use a camera to create a

01:31:36.280 --> 01:31:42.400
virtual environment around you that you can then interact with using the Oculus

01:31:41.040 --> 01:31:48.239
so because of the front mounted camera you actually have a much finer uh detail

01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:51.800
in terms of what your hands are doing so you could use gestures you can pick

01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:55.199
things up and move them around like seeing in the demo video and that's

01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:59.719
pretty much all there is in this demo video things don't get like real crazy

01:31:57.880 --> 01:32:05.159
until the second one here so this was a guy who is using that 3D printed thing

01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:09.080
for his own little experiment so he 3D printed one and added a rubber band

01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:14.080
which is pretty simple pretty Innovative if you ask

01:32:10.679 --> 01:32:16.440
me all right so here he's showing the

01:32:14.080 --> 01:32:20.560
setup okay so he got he got a USB battery pack to power the Oculus Rift

01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:25.360
box and then he has a USB extension for it to go to the computer and he has HDMI

01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:29.320
I believe as well yeah something like that okay let's not worry too much about that you guys can check out the video if

01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:35.760
you want as always we're going to post the uh the wow dock in the Forum thread

01:32:32.880 --> 01:32:39.960
so this is with um him just using a connect it's important to see him here

01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:43.920
in the corner here actually I'm going to make this full screen so you guys can

01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:50.679
check it out there we go so there we go so he's crouching and able to look at

01:32:47.679 --> 01:32:52.040
and under and interact with objects

01:32:50.679 --> 01:32:56.199
because he's using the con connect for full body tracking again it's connect

01:32:53.679 --> 01:33:00.960
one which is a steaming pile of poo and I wish that we had better stuff than

01:32:58.280 --> 01:33:06.600
that and then using Oculus and the camera in order to be able to interact

01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:07.760
with his hands as well as well mostly

01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:11.840
mostly the hands and just look around and stuff

01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:17.679
this is cool and and you could even in theory use it to build a full 3d

01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:21.239
environment if you have like the right other setup to go with it cuz think

01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:26.080
about how something like parad drone works it's kind of similar so it's got a

01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:30.760
camera it knows where it exists within space and it can see other AR Drones for

01:33:28.480 --> 01:33:35.880
like an augmented reality game can you imagine if we had a couple like battery

01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:40.360
powered Oculus and we could run around this house holding like plastic laser

01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:45.040
guns and like shoot at each other and the augmented reality could do things

01:33:43.400 --> 01:33:50.719
like okay here hold on hold on picture this in your mind okay if we could do

01:33:47.320 --> 01:33:53.639
things like you know um peek around a

01:33:50.719 --> 01:33:58.239
corner and like blast something and like the shards of the wall would fall away

01:33:56.360 --> 01:34:02.800
because if like okay if you could walk around the house and create the map

01:34:00.480 --> 01:34:06.600
first you could even have a destructible environment maybe if you could walk

01:34:04.679 --> 01:34:10.679
around with a 3D camera and then like load it into something that you have

01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:14.400
like say you wore a backpack yes to do some type of processing and that's where

01:34:12.360 --> 01:34:18.239
the HDMI cable goes and then you could load a map which is mapped out of your

01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:21.760
environment and just like don't move things like don't be an idiot and don't

01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:25.400
move things we're not that far away from like really exciting augmented reality

01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:30.480
gaming anyway what like lus Media Group headquarters Counterstrike map I know I

01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:34.040
know anyway what he's doing right now is he's using hand gestures you can see

01:34:32.280 --> 01:34:38.920
it's not perfect at the moment by any stretch but he's using hand gestures to

01:34:36.199 --> 01:34:43.440
do things like uh change the Sky Box to a different setting here I'm going to go

01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:50.400
ahead and try to exit full screen mode please register my keystrokes wow brutal

01:34:47.280 --> 01:34:53.440
hate the keyboard someone disliked this

01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:56.040
video what's wrong with people

01:34:53.440 --> 01:35:01.639
yeah okay small interaction radius from the 3D camera where does he change the

01:34:58.280 --> 01:35:03.880
the Sky Box is it here uh it's his right

01:35:01.639 --> 01:35:06.520
hand yeah I don't remember oh bollocks okay well whatever you guys can check

01:35:04.960 --> 01:35:13.040
out the video it's really cool it doesn't have a ton of views but is definitely worth a look I think we're

01:35:10.719 --> 01:35:19.840
getting pretty close to the end um we have Aus talking about their Rog monitor

01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:24.760
well making a video about rough to say they released like any information at

01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:31.639
all posted by assassin on the Forum this is pretty much it it's 30 seconds of

01:35:27.480 --> 01:35:35.880
okay so hold on hold on 2 seconds of r

01:35:31.639 --> 01:35:37.800
logo okay so that was about 8 Seconds of

01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:41.400
there's a g-sync chip or sumon video chip they haven't really clarified that

01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:44.400
in the video itself okay more Rog logo so that was about another two seconds of

01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:48.440
Rog logo there's some buttons yeah there was about 2 seconds of ID of the Monitor

01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:53.480
and then about another three and a half seconds of that then there's like a

01:35:51.080 --> 01:36:00.880
couple seconds of a random robot then about another six seconds of more ASUS

01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:04.719
logo get excited get excited I am not

01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:09.320
excited because the problem is that Rog

01:36:04.719 --> 01:36:11.199
is gaming no compromises gaming and I'm

01:36:09.320 --> 01:36:15.480
willing to compromise some things about the gaming experience to make my overall

01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:20.480
experience with a product better so the ultimate gaming keyboard might use

01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:22.440
cherrymx red key switches I don't care

01:36:20.480 --> 01:36:26.639
because cherrymx Reds are unpleasant for me to type on and I type I'm not a

01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:32.600
professional gamer and changing from reds from Blues to Reds would not make

01:36:29.639 --> 01:36:39.320
me in any noticeable way better yeah so there you go guys um I am really excited

01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:41.119
to see what kind of 2 and a2k IPS

01:36:39.320 --> 01:36:45.080
monitors with g-sync we might see because that will be on my Christmas

01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:49.800
wish list for next year and we don't know this is going to be expensive um we

01:36:47.360 --> 01:36:55.080
don't know what this is but I'm guessing it's probably 1080 P

01:36:52.280 --> 01:36:58.320
144 guess that's probably what it is I think competition is going to drive

01:36:56.320 --> 01:37:03.280
pricing down on g-sync faster than most people do I think that it's not going to

01:37:00.080 --> 01:37:04.880
sell well until it reaches reasonably

01:37:03.280 --> 01:37:11.800
close to price parody with other monitors and then it'll take off it

01:37:07.239 --> 01:37:13.560
can't be like $170 more than a $270

01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:16.280
which is ludicrous it's way too expensive right now but the thing about

01:37:15.080 --> 01:37:20.400
it being way too expensive right now is that it doesn't even really exist yet

01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:24.440
yeah I mean people are paying an early adopter tax especially like when there's

01:37:22.560 --> 01:37:27.480
one store that has it yes and they have it early like you're you're paying extra

01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:33.840
because that store has it you're paying everyone extra for that

01:37:29.679 --> 01:37:36.040
yeah all right the big one yeah I posted

01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:41.360
this on Facebook earlier this week and people seemed to seemed to be pretty

01:37:39.360 --> 01:37:46.599
upset I mean the fact of the matter is I never bought order of War NE so I don't

01:37:44.080 --> 01:37:50.639
care about it for that this is this is a specific version I think you can still

01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:55.080
get a different order of War on Steam actually if I remember remember

01:37:51.480 --> 01:37:57.880
correctly um but this is order of War

01:37:55.080 --> 01:38:03.040
something yeah sure anyway it's like a yeah V it doesn't exist anymore so I

01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:07.760
guess it doesn't matter

01:38:03.040 --> 01:38:11.840
hey oh man so valve actually removed

01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:13.639
order of war from users steam libraries

01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:19.040
order of War challenge order of War challenge thank you now there are a

01:38:16.599 --> 01:38:21.840
couple of reasons for it actually do here do you want to do you want to

01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:25.800
handle this one so ESS yeah and it looks like you can still get

01:38:23.639 --> 01:38:29.159
actual just order of War for eight bucks on Steam it's still I think that one's

01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:33.320
still available but if you go to the steam page for order of War challenge

01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:37.880
it's like gone and there's just discussions of people going like how do

01:38:35.400 --> 01:38:43.760
I get a refund um so essentially what happened

01:38:40.679 --> 01:38:45.440
is square Unix shut down the public

01:38:43.760 --> 01:38:50.000
servers because there wasn't that many people playing the game there were still people playing the game just not a ton

01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:54.080
of traffic and it was costing them more to run the server

01:38:52.440 --> 01:38:56.880
than it should have I guess because there wasn't enough people playing the

01:38:55.440 --> 01:39:01.960
game it's not a subscription game I wouldn't think you'd need that many servers if there's nobody playing it and

01:38:59.639 --> 01:39:06.119
hopefully virtualize it so it can change and like use a certain percentage anyway

01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:10.040
because that's what modern people do um but anyways they closed down the servers

01:39:07.639 --> 01:39:14.920
because of that and it was an online only DRM based game so if you shut down

01:39:12.679 --> 01:39:19.280
the servers there's nothing for your DRM game to connect to and you can't play it

01:39:17.440 --> 01:39:26.000
so it's unplayable and was therefore removed from Steam

01:39:22.440 --> 01:39:29.840
what a problem I mean valve has said

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:32.639
about their own titles that if they ever

01:39:29.840 --> 01:39:39.440
delete steam or something they will make the games available in a DRM free form

01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:41.520
to anyone who bought them yep however

01:39:39.440 --> 01:39:45.599
valve doesn't control what the other game developers who list their games on

01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:52.119
Steam do exactly and with valve terms of service and I I I don't like it but cons

01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:55.800
H yeah anyways with terms of service you're you're you're leasing things you

01:39:53.719 --> 01:40:02.520
don't own them yeah when you when you buy software whether it's a dis or

01:39:58.679 --> 01:40:07.280
whether it's a digital copy in in every

01:40:02.520 --> 01:40:09.159
Ula you are buying a license to use it

01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:13.040
yeah you are not buying it you do not own it there's certain free DRM free

01:40:11.599 --> 01:40:19.040
games where you can launch it no matter what but when when you're leasing a game

01:40:16.360 --> 01:40:22.719
that has a a DRM that doesn't make it so you can launch it no matter what and I'm

01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:26.119
not talking about open source obviously but I'm talking about there's

01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:30.119
a few other things yeah there's a few other things there's freeware and open

01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:33.480
source and shareware and like there's a lot of different types of things but

01:40:31.639 --> 01:40:38.639
when we're talking about games typically none of that applies you are buying a

01:40:35.280 --> 01:40:41.320
license to use it um yeah

01:40:38.639 --> 01:40:45.599
so it's it's just kind of gross because there's actually a lot of games right

01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:49.719
now that have online online only DRM meaning that this is going to actually

01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:54.960
happen quite a bit eventually because we've and you you can't be like oh well

01:40:52.360 --> 01:41:00.480
my steam Library looks the same as it did seven years ago um yeah this whole

01:40:58.719 --> 01:41:04.560
online only DRM thing hasn't really been a thing that whole time it's more recent

01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:08.719
so we're actually going to see The Fallout of this in the future not now

01:41:07.080 --> 01:41:11.760
we're starting to see it and the author of the hexus article brought up a really

01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:16.199
interesting point what is my steam Library going to look like in 10 years

01:41:14.040 --> 01:41:21.159
because Square Enix might not be the most customer friendly company but there

01:41:18.480 --> 01:41:26.360
are plenty of other not that customer companies out there that might go ah you

01:41:24.719 --> 01:41:33.080
know what it's too much work to keep the server up it's too much work to send out

01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:36.040
a new patch that makes it DRM free so

01:41:33.080 --> 01:41:40.880
whatever and like uh I believe war gaming is attached to this and if you

01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:44.719
look at it uh World of Tanks if they shut down the servers all

01:41:43.480 --> 01:41:50.040
of that money that you've poured into the game is gone whether it was on tanks

01:41:48.040 --> 01:41:54.599
or whether it was on whatever anything that's not expendable like

01:41:52.480 --> 01:41:57.520
ammunition you you see it right now as a permanent thing but if they shut down

01:41:55.960 --> 01:42:01.119
the service at some point it's gone and that's how that's going to work a lot I

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:05.840
mean with with the way that most mainstream Gamers move from one game to

01:42:03.719 --> 01:42:09.480
the next game it won't matter too much it won't matter to too many people and I

01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:15.560
think that's why they did this for this particular title I think if it had been

01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:17.159
Starcraft 1 where blizzard was like okay

01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:22.920
we're shutting down the Battlenet servers so um you know pack up your CDs

01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:26.679
and mail them to us you we're no longer licensing this software like that would

01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:30.159
have caused outrage but since it's a game that very few people were actually

01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:33.599
playing I suspect most of the people asking for refunds were probably people

01:42:32.080 --> 01:42:36.800
who weren't playing the game anyway and they're just trying to get money back and they're just trying to get some

01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:39.880
money out of it yep I actually think that's probably the exact same thing

01:42:38.440 --> 01:42:43.679
although there is going to be that group of people that were probably a fairly

01:42:41.440 --> 01:42:48.119
hardcore Community because reading up on this game I never bought it apparently

01:42:45.440 --> 01:42:52.560
was not super Noob friendly apparently it was actually kind of hard so a lot of

01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:56.159
people didn't really play it a ton because of that because it's not a super

01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:59.800
popular game and it's really difficult right so there was a few as far as I can

01:42:58.360 --> 01:43:05.920
tell again I never owned it so I don't really know as far as I can tell there was a smaller community of

01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:09.159
hardcores it's I don't know it's interesting and it's going to become

01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:14.159
more and more of a problem so a lot of people have been blaming everyone and

01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:18.760
everything that they possibly can um but it brings up the question whose fault is

01:43:15.679 --> 01:43:20.800
this and Square Enix yeah Square Enix a

01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:25.880
lot of people have been slapping Steam for this what a lot of people have been

01:43:22.719 --> 01:43:29.080
slapping Steam for this okay you people

01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:30.360
you're wrong if you if you look at I

01:43:29.080 --> 01:43:34.119
I've got a few links in here which will be publishing the doc later if you look

01:43:32.440 --> 01:43:38.000
at the store Page you can see tons of people complaining if you look elsewhere

01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:43.119
even on the Storm page there have been people complaining to steam and getting

01:43:40.040 --> 01:43:45.320
refunds from Steam and if you look at

01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:50.320
the community message that steam pushed out it says directly uh where where's

01:43:48.599 --> 01:43:55.400
the community message that's the store news news link that I posted in there if

01:43:52.400 --> 01:43:57.920
you look there it's orders um product

01:43:55.400 --> 01:44:04.080
update by Valve orders order of War challenge servers shut down the first

01:44:00.360 --> 01:44:06.520
line message from Square Enix and then a

01:44:04.080 --> 01:44:08.840
huge link about how oh we're sorry and it's unfortunate and we know there's

01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:14.080
people that still play the game but we're shutting it down because it's not profitable anymore blah blah blah blah

01:44:12.280 --> 01:44:17.199
blah blah blah here's a link to complain and people are complaining to steam and

01:44:15.480 --> 01:44:21.520
trying to get refunds from Steam so I kind of actually feel bad for steam I'm

01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:26.159
not defending them to the end of the Earth because they are steam is DRM and

01:44:23.719 --> 01:44:29.320
itself blah blah blah blah blah um but I just kind of accept it because steam's

01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:33.239
actually pretty good with their own stuff valve valve or valve sorry valve

01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:36.679
is actually pretty good with their own stuff which is really cool and if you're

01:44:35.040 --> 01:44:41.599
freaked out there are other options that still interface with steam because you can go to something like the Humble

01:44:39.639 --> 01:44:46.639
Bundle store and if you look on the Humble Bundle store I think literally

01:44:44.080 --> 01:44:51.280
everything is steam compatible and then if you look even closer there's games

01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:55.560
that'll have DRM free boxes on there so if you buy it there you get a steam key

01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:59.520
and you get a DRM free download yeah so things like and not even just like

01:44:57.080 --> 01:45:04.320
crappy games like trying to for example trying to DRM free download Rogue Legacy

01:45:02.320 --> 01:45:09.440
which while I believe it's Indie I don't actually remember off the top of my head

01:45:06.040 --> 01:45:12.320
um but still huge game DRM fre like

01:45:09.440 --> 01:45:15.639
there's there's yeah so there's options out there and you can still use steam if

01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:19.560
you still like that platform also if you're can use something like Gog gaming

01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:26.320
or whatever you can do that whole steam add to game list thing which works

01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:28.159
really really well and it's completely

01:45:26.320 --> 01:45:33.520
fine and steam's not going to take that away from you because that not take the

01:45:31.040 --> 01:45:38.679
Lord gan's name in vain or any of his my bad trademarks that he owns yeah so like

01:45:35.599 --> 01:45:41.360
I don't know I would it's a sin stop

01:45:38.679 --> 01:45:46.400
the stop the steam hate because it's not their fault yeah um their policies

01:45:44.639 --> 01:45:51.239
allowed it to happen but it Happ it would have happened anyway and it happened with a game that you probably

01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:55.280
knew was online only Dr so it would have happened anyway and you wouldn't have

01:45:53.560 --> 01:46:00.239
been able to use the game with steam all this time well you could have done the

01:45:57.320 --> 01:46:05.159
added thing right that actually that even works with uh NVIDIA game stream I

01:46:02.719 --> 01:46:08.840
was playing Alice madness Returns and even though I have a disc copy that's

01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:14.119
not a steam key and I was like I was installing it and I was like what is

01:46:10.679 --> 01:46:16.119
this Stone Age Technology I it was the

01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:21.639
first time I'd used my optical drive like last calendar year I don't have one

01:46:18.599 --> 01:46:24.320
basically an entire year but I it and it

01:46:21.639 --> 01:46:28.520
took forever too I was like what this is stupid anyway so I installed the game

01:46:26.719 --> 01:46:32.800
and I just added it and then game stream work just like that so that's really

01:46:29.719 --> 01:46:35.239
cool even though it's not um a GeForce

01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:38.360
experience title and it wasn't properly fully integrated with steam right anyway

01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:44.239
I think that's pretty much it for the show guys uh do you want to talk about changes to build blogs of the week so uh

01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:47.639
last week in the Afterparty we did a massive poll and try to get everyone to

01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:51.199
get ideas together and I posted a sticky in the build log section which was

01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:54.000
basically asking like what the heck do you guys want to do with build logs

01:46:52.440 --> 01:46:56.920
because it's not going to work this way and I really want to keep it going

01:46:55.480 --> 01:47:01.159
because you guys care and we care and all that kind of stuff um but it's

01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:05.000
become unfeasible with the size of the Forum now and how fast everything goes

01:47:03.040 --> 01:47:08.320
for us to actually see every build log that's coming in and it's becoming

01:47:06.639 --> 01:47:13.719
really really difficult to sort through the ones that have been actually finished this week that's been really

01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:17.239
hard because we see people posting this week and I can see that Tim stamp but

01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:20.920
it's really hard to and people are commenting on ones this week that have

01:47:19.280 --> 01:47:27.239
been done a long time AG and it's been really hard to actually track which ones are specifically done this week um so

01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:31.960
we've come up with a conclusion which is going to take a bit of work from uh Mr

01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:36.920
Wizard and myself probably mainly Mr Wizard because it's kind of crazy and

01:47:34.400 --> 01:47:41.040
confusing um but it is coming it is not here yet though um so yeah we don't have

01:47:39.639 --> 01:47:45.320
build logs of the week this week that's a really high number but it's yeah it's

01:47:44.080 --> 01:47:49.280
coming and it's going to be actually pretty cool and the build logs forum is

01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:53.440
not going to work is probably not going to work exactly the the same as how the

01:47:51.080 --> 01:47:56.679
rest of the Forum works okay cuz it's going to work on this interesting we're

01:47:55.159 --> 01:48:01.040
we're trying to see how this will work but it's going to work on an interesting

01:47:58.360 --> 01:48:04.639
sorting system where you can see what has been finished and what is in

01:48:02.840 --> 01:48:07.679
progress based on forced tags that everyone has to implement and use and

01:48:06.280 --> 01:48:10.679
change and stuff and that'll help us with some new Forum features or site

01:48:09.280 --> 01:48:15.239
features that are potentially coming in the future as well yeah there's like there's a bunch of changes coming to

01:48:13.360 --> 01:48:19.920
build logs huge changes coming to build logs so yeah the the build logs of the

01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:23.800
week changes thread I I guess I can just lock now I hadn't locked it yet because

01:48:22.560 --> 01:48:27.719
we knew we weren't going to be able to implement the ideas immediately so I was

01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:32.000
I had an original end date of Wednesday I just kind of let it spill forward um

01:48:30.360 --> 01:48:35.360
but we kind of we kind of know what we're doing now um if that idea doesn't

01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:40.040
work there's a few other ideas that we're going to try we've been in business for a year and that's the

01:48:38.400 --> 01:48:45.199
conclusion we kind of know what we're doing now kind of kind of not entirely

01:48:43.599 --> 01:48:49.440
sure if it'll work but yeah there's a bunch of ideas and there's a bunch of fallback ideas and we're good with that

01:48:48.080 --> 01:48:52.880
now so thank you everyone for your contribution of ideas IDE and that's

01:48:51.440 --> 01:48:57.760
about it no billogs for this week but they will be coming as soon as

01:48:55.639 --> 01:49:02.360
possible no confirmed date I'm going to pull an EA on this one thank you guys so

01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:06.719
thank you guys so much for watching the show today um I'm sorry we didn't have a

01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:10.800
special guest for you guys but you know what hit me up on Twitter and let me

01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:14.719
know if you would like us to do maybe every other week with a guest as opposed

01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:18.679
to having a guest all the time or you know I mean we we love taking your

01:49:16.520 --> 01:49:22.679
feedback and shows are something that we are going to be focusing on in4

01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:27.560
I actually had some people asking me what the plan is for lus Media Group for

01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:30.639
2014 um I still want to do a Daily Show I'm not sure if it's going to stick

01:49:28.719 --> 01:49:34.520
anymore so there's that developers developers developers devel no no no

01:49:33.080 --> 01:49:38.840
we're we're not hiring more developers we are we are going to try to hire one

01:49:36.400 --> 01:49:43.440
to two more people so uh that's going to be one of the things for this year um we

01:49:41.280 --> 01:49:50.480
are going to continue to focus on improving our production values so uh at

01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:52.360
some point I will get that that that

01:49:50.480 --> 01:49:56.679
thing going where I ask you guys to help me buy a bunch of equipment because we

01:49:54.400 --> 01:50:00.080
we are going to need it um especially if we want to build better sets for our

01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:03.760
shows like I hate this this is stupid it's boxes behind us look I love how a

01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:08.760
lot of them are on like angles and some of them are actually the side of the Box

01:50:07.040 --> 01:50:13.000
not like this is this is the width of that box I know we we need like we need

01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:15.520
proper set pieces we need to be able to like paint the W I mean part of the

01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:19.239
reason there are boxes back there is because all the walls in this place are

01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:23.840
horrible colors we need to do some painting so um so that's that's another

01:50:22.040 --> 01:50:27.280
thing that we're going to be doing um and I think there was one other thing

01:50:25.080 --> 01:50:32.360
that I oh yeah and we are going to continue to develop the website as a

01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:35.560
community site as opposed to just a forum but don't worry the Forum will

01:50:33.719 --> 01:50:40.119
still be awesome so there you guys have it thank you for watching The W show

01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:44.920
today we will see you guys in two weeks no W show next week we will be at CES

01:50:43.360 --> 01:50:49.719
last last week you tease people saying that there might be a w show oh where at

01:50:47.239 --> 01:50:54.040
C yes if we can find a way to do it I don't know I don't think we'll be able

01:50:51.360 --> 01:50:58.840
to but I mean if we we could try here let me fire up I have your calendar on

01:50:55.800 --> 01:51:01.599
my calendar right uh yeah if not I can

01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:06.800
load up mine right now just in case you should have mine you should be able to

01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:09.679
just turn it on yeah it's on in theory I

01:51:06.800 --> 01:51:15.280
don't have anything in that spot me neither we'll see maybe if we did a

01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:17.280
later one okay so stay tuned on Twitter

01:51:15.280 --> 01:51:20.880
adline Tech on we don't know but we'll try or follow on Facebook I have more

01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:26.599
Facebook likes than Twitter followers now I think um isn't that crazy is the

01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:28.599
Forum getting close to your Twitter yes

01:51:26.599 --> 01:51:34.040
yeah yeah Twitter has actually really slowed down in terms of growth like the

01:51:31.320 --> 01:51:38.679
the community aspect of Linus Tech tips.com of Facebook and even Google

01:51:36.639 --> 01:51:46.159
Plus is closing in pretty fast I think I have like 22,000 plus ones whatever those are on

01:51:42.360 --> 01:51:49.119
Google Plus likes are they likes I think

01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:53.320
I don't know man what whatever it is like it's it's Twitter I like because

01:51:51.639 --> 01:51:57.520
it's really easy to interact with people oneon-one whereas even on Facebook like

01:51:55.840 --> 01:52:01.119
the way that conversations are handled is terrible on YouTube the way that

01:51:59.560 --> 01:52:04.400
comments are handled is still terrible half the people will ask me a question

01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:09.840
and there's no reply button because they don't have their accounts merged or whatever else I'm just like hey man I

01:52:07.639 --> 01:52:13.960
actually saw your comment I was poised to reply to you I couldn't because

01:52:11.360 --> 01:52:17.760
there's no reply button um I hate Twitter almost every single time if I'm

01:52:16.119 --> 01:52:22.480
going to respond to someone there's no way that character count is enough yeah

01:52:20.480 --> 01:52:26.840
that's unless I'm just like go to the Forum which usually I would like to

01:52:24.840 --> 01:52:30.199
actually answer someone because if I'm sitting at a computer I'm not live in

01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:33.360
the show and I can take way longer to explain what I'm talking about and I've

01:52:32.079 --> 01:52:38.119
had a few people where I'm just like dude just PM me and he's ended up pming

01:52:36.599 --> 01:52:42.079
me and then I can write my short essays about it but like oh and you probably

01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:48.840
drove a forum sign up at the same time woohoo yay all right peace out guys bye