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hey guys welcome to the WAN Show it's our weekly show where we talk about

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things that hopefully matter very very much to all of you and if they don't

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then I'm I apologize sincerely for that we have we have an unusual show for you

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today this is the first time in quite a while that we do not have a special

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guest so I had actually reached out to a couple folks but I mean it's the holiday

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season and people are all over the place yes and see es is we're going to be I

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mean we're flying out tomorrow so um it's just not that surprising to me that

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no one was able to do it today so it's just going to be you and me and him

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simultaneously all right we've got some great topics for this week guys uh so

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number one and this is huge is for the

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first time that I'm aware of um valve

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has outright removed a game from Steam and I'm not talking about like removed

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it from the store for purchase I mean that's happened with all kinds of things

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I'm talking about it is gone people who bought it it is completely gone from

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their libraries uh We've also got some really exciting stuff with respect to ey

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tracking so steel series is going to be showing off a technology that is going

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to allow you to use ey tracking to interface with your computer and then

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what else we got whoa I was working on other things um we also have a NASA

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using a Oculus Rift and a connect to

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control a robotic ARM which is actually really cool and we have USB 100 W power

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or up to 100 wat power 20 volts 5 amps

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so that's also really interesting yeah being able to being able to actually

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power something like a monitor I mean we've seen USB monitors in the past but

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they're like these slim low power like super not baller types of devices you

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could you could easily power a pro off of this like a proper monitor off of a

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US USB port which is uh which is crazy I

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mean I I think that when you compare that to something like Thunderbolt all

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of a sudden USB starts to look a lot more interesting yeah um anyway so guys

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intro time and then we'll be back with the actual show that you actually want

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to watch presumably because you're here hopefully

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hopefully

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so guys our sponsors this week are Hotspot Shield as well as Intel with

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their Rome 2 Total War actually I've

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I've been informed that it's Total War Rome 2 or something like that so

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whatever we're supposed to call it their Rome 2 Total War giveway that allows

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users who buy unlocked fourth generation

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has well processor so the 4670k as well as the

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4770k to get a free copy of that particular game now I'm just putting up

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the announcement video on YouTube right now because I derped out and forgot to

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do that so go ahead come on save save you can do it YouTube there we go yes I

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want to leave this page YouTube's been doing some really janky stuff on me

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lately like for example I just s that to public did not detect did not know I

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watched that fail also also a really good one is I've had quite a few people

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asking me hey lonus why AR why aren't your videos available on iPad and iPhone

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what what's the deal what you just you just want all that money you only want

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your videos on monetized platforms no actually YouTube's got a pretty cool

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thing going on lately where what they've been doing is they they changed the

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default So you you're and you can't change back unless you have a specific

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agreement with your partner Network and ours isn't that sophisticated so I

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haven't even asked them about it yet but I probably should at some point um no no

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offense to anyone who might be watching anyway so you have to have a specific

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agreement with your partner Network in order to change the default to Syndicate

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the content everywhere and when I'm

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uploading if I set it to everywhere as

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soon as I make it public it reverts to to monetize platforms

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so then once it's public I can go back in and I can change it I don't

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understand why Mobile isn't a monetized platform some mobile platforms are some

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of them aren't I think it depends on the app implementations like I think that

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was part of the the whole thing where Microsoft and Google were at each

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other's throats over the YouTube app on Windows Phone 8 because it enabled some

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functionality that wasn't enabled on other platforms like ad free viewing I

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believe was one of them and then downloading videos was another one that

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uh Google wasn't particular pleased with right so I mean but with that said I

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still don't think Microsoft was at fault there because Google was kind of acting

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like buttheads even once Microsoft removed the functionality that was

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supposedly offending them right so let's

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move into our first topic and honestly this is one of those ones that's I don't

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know is it Tech news is it not Tech news one thing's for sure certain in that is

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that it was posted on the Linus Tech tips Forum which means that it qualifies

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for consideration to be featured on the W show and number two is that it is

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pretty darn adorable so this was posted by nice hat on the Forum and uh this is

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night man is the game particularly good the answer is no not really I mean I

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played point though I played it a little bit I know it isn't the point but is it

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the point because hold on a second okay so I played it a little bit and like the

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the the controls are just kind of frustrating and anything anyway so uh so

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this was the original articles from well pixel proposal I guess is the actual

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site where you can go to to play the game but um what 3D artist Robert fin

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said was I couldn't allow myself to do a normal proposal it had to be special he

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explained something we would remember forever to remind us where we started

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Simple Times playing games together growing up and learning that games can

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convey all sorts of emotion I wanted her to see all the spikes I would jump over

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for her and I think it's I think it's very Charming I think it I think it if

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you're G to publish the game then it

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doesn't necessarily matter if it's up to a certain standard of quality but if

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you're going to ask for donations for the game then it should probably be up

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the donations were for the game I think the donations were in general right but

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it's a donation button at the bottom of a game screen in a browser is it oh I I

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only saw it on the whole website sorry on the but on the pixel proposal website

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yeah but it's like a while away from the game I don't think the point is that you play the game I think the point is that

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you watch a video okay well at any rate

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if you guys want to see the reaction video It's it's super cute and I I think

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you your favorite thing about it was sort of brutal

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but my favorite thing about it was that it's it's not the most original thing

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ever and the 86% at the end if you pay a

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lot of attention and you watch through the whole video near the end it like

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tracks how well you did in the game and it it tracks how many coins you

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collected so she gathered whatever 86% of the coins was so at the end it fills

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up a heart with all the coins and doesn't fully fill up the heart and then

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even though it didn't fully like alongside of not fully filling up the

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heart it said 86% you could do

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better yeah it's funny because that's exactly what my parents said to my

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wife it's like yeah he's an A but just

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barely you know why not a yeah why not A+ I mean you're Asian you should strive

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for the A+ I tried to like make it so that like a few people would

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understand you didn't have to make it like super ridiculously anyways yeah

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anyway so that was super cute but actually this was one that Luke added to

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the document after the fact one that I hadn't seen that I think I actually kind

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of like better okay it was less they're different yeah they're quite different

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it was less work to do this but I think

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that in terms of if you're gonna okay okay okay okay in terms of qualifying a

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lady to be your partner forever if she

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can beat

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Contra yep right yep yep so what this

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guy did is he he modded a Ness cartridge

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so you can actually like badass modded check this out wires all over the place

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and what I like about this guy is the other guy's a 3D artist already which

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and I'm not saying creating the game wasn't difficult and it wasn't a lot of work and it wasn't a labra of love and

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all that stuff it's awesome but this one was it's more like a regular dude who

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kind of did his best he's not he doesn't seem to be any kind of special

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programmer or anything like that had to fight his way really good job had to

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fight his way through just figuring out how to operate a hex editor didn't even

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get it quite working 100% right but what

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he did manage to do was um what his like

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lab and stuff yeah so here's his so like it's it's more like a general Workshop

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like you can tell the guy who doesn't necessarily do all the electronic stuff

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um but there's there's the NES console that he was presumably using for uh for

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testing all right so here uh yeah there are all the

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chips uh use note how many chips I went

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through already up top so not an expert and then what he did was he he edited

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the hex uh the hex data here in order to

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change the names of the characters of the game to his and his wife's name

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which I think is super cute so you can your player select is Quinn and Amy I

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mean I don't know if his wife's that Butch looking in real life but if she is

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then I'm not judging her that's I'm I'm kidding I know there's a picture of her

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down below but uh I I really liked this one I thought it was super cute so he

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made it so that at the end uh what did it say at the end there it

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is a that's pretty cool and and and I I

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she can if she can beat Contra on the nest then she's a

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keeper that's pretty epic so yeah and

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then that's them on Halloween that was taken earlier it's not like the yeah he

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just wanted to show them yeah and he he left a very special note here no that is

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not an upskirt she has shorts on so for those of you who were thinking hey I

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need to see this in higher resolution just to you know double check and verify

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aate what's going on in that picture there is nothing

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going on in the picture grow up so we are having problems we are not dropping

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frames we do not seem to be lagging on this network at all but like a ton of

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people can't load the stream at all um

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what am I supposed to do probably on twitch's end it's probably on here so

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that people know that we're aware of it because I'm getting spammed on all

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mediums about it right now so anyone that is watching which is probably

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everyone that's not spamming me yep we're having problems okay all right so

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moving on to our next topic here this is actually one of our headliner topics and

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I know um you're you're an you're an

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Oculus Rift dork and I get that but

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interfaces are changing in general an

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Oculus Rift is not like VR is not the

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only way that interfaces are changing other ways to interface with things dork

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I also bought Nia back in the day I was looking into getting that's just dumb I

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was looking getting that's being a dumb gimmick dork I just I I like ways that I

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can interface with things that isn't normal I find it very cool I think this is really cool do you even listen to

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yourself anyway uh so this is a

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collaborative project between Toby and

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steel series well actually to Toby's the one with the technology steel series

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presumably is investing and bringing it to Market so that's it's great to see

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guys that are forward thinking like valve and and now steel series

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partnering up with these technology companies to bring it to Gamers so there

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are a couple of videos here that I would like to check out uh this one isn't one

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of them let me just see if I can find the right one apparently it's a North

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American twitch problem it seems like most streams are kind of unwatchable

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right now okay so there you go guys if nothing else there will be the archive

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what I would like to do is avoid spending too much time on the live show

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talking about the issues so that the people who watch the archive of whom

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there are actually more um don't have to sit through listening to us talk about

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the issues with the live stream cuz they're not even watching live I'll tell

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you why you're loading a video Yeah well no no I know I'm just I just mean in

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general I'm explaining why I'm not cuz the chat's like lonus look at the chat

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yeah I'm I'm aware of it we're just not going to talk about it for two minutes that's all all right so let's go ahead

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and check out this video all right this is the Windows 8 has a start screen with

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large tiles okay we're not going to listen to this guy and talk for two and a half minutes I'm sorry but basically

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he's like okay interfaces are changing there's this natural swiping through

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stuff thing that's going on but it's not great for the mouse because you have to

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move these huge distances to hit these

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huge icons and it's just not very optimal but what ey tracking will do is

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is a couple of things it will allow you to actually interface directly with a UI

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with your eyes or it could augment the

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experience that you're having with other things like something where I see this

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being really useful and he kind of hints at this in the video but it's not directly said is if you are touching

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something and you know you kind of Miss by a bit but you're looking at this one

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but you kind of are on the border between this one and that one it should

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be able to in theory track your eyes and go well no he probably meant this one

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and then another way that they show it and then another thing would be uh would

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be well actually it would be mostly touch mostly touch for fine details once

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this technology gets Advanced enough instead of clicking on something and

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having a little whoop magnifying which one did you mean to I would love to be

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like oh well he was looking at this word it's probably the one he meant to click on uh so that's extremely exciting and

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then one of the other demos that they do later on in the video and this is more

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of a uh more of a gaming relevant one where did that demo go I think the

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StarCraft one yeah the I think that's in the other video is that in the other video so oh that is in the other video

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okay because I liked that one too okay let's check out the other video so the

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other video was a um was a Starcraft video and I guess that makes sense that

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that's the that's the steel series collaborative one so navigating the mini

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map maybe you can explain this one a little bit better so it's in in the

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video it's kind of confusing if you can find it because what it shows in the video is it shows the mini map becoming

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like full screen temporarily it's not really how it's going to work I'm pretty

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sure I think he was just trying to show how the mini map moved so basically what

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you could do is okay well this part's kind of cool

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because it talks about just general interaction between the gamer and other

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characters in the world like when you walk into a bar someone might nod at you

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when they see you looking at them for but not before they see you looking at

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them so when you walk in they might say like Greetings or something but then if

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you're looking around doing whatever it's okay and then you look at the

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bartender finally and he'll like nod at you to be like ask if you want to drink

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something like that but then he might delay until you look at him to ask something like that and in something

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like an MMO that could actually be really cool because you're you're

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walking around and someone looks at you and you could kind of be like you could

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be aggressive towards them you could offer to trade with them but you would

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know when you have people's attention even just in towns like a a blacksmith

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could shut out that they're selling swords yes but only once you kind of

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look at them and so I think I think that's incredibly cool I mean the

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the the ability to tell if you have

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someone's attention digitally has been a

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problem that goes back to my earliest encounter with this would be the MSN

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days yeah it's like are do are you talking to me and just me right now or

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do you have 18 other chat Windows open and are you doing 100 other things using

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ey tracking you could actually make experiences more engaging whether it's

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in gaming or other ways as well not only this message has been read but this chat

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box is being looked at yeah I mean Isn't that cool all right so here let's talk

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about the mini map thing so I'll have this playing while you so it it's a

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little bit vague to be completely honest on how exactly it works but it allows

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you to continue doing other see like he shows it taking up his whole screen I

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don't think that's yeah but that's just to zoom in you can see the alias yeah but no go back a little bit oh sorry

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this isy wait for it so what we do inad

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no is when when we can see his screen here wait no like Let It Go

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hope that's not really how it works because that's not going to help you no

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covering the whole screen with your mini map is not a good thing and he he said

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like it would be bound to a button so it will only do that when you're looking at

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the mini map and press the button but and stuff but I still don't like that it

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takes up your whole screen because that's not going to help I wonder if it

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could be faster than moving your mouse down and back

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up I don't know maybe marginally but

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every APM counts at a professional level so and then taking up your whole screen

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so you can't see other things is kind of not going to be super good but then if

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you're wanting to move and look at something else anyway somewhere else on

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the map yes but part of the problem is going to be that having that much of a

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change distracting but then I think that

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all of this is sort of a moot point when we consider that most rtss these days

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are basically in the Dark Ages when it comes to mini map functionality mean

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Supreme Commander had this figured out like what five six years ago and they're

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not going to you could fully zoom in your mini map you could fully zoom up

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your main map you could have on another monitor and you could put it over there

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why does this not exist oh well you know some people might be like better than

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other people because they have like better stuff you know what athletes with

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better training equipment are better than athletes that have crappy training

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equipment and in an improper diet I'm sorry but that's the way the world Works

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anyway sorry I I got distracted so I don't think this would be allowed anyways in competitive play for one um

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because it's a change now that you brought that up oh no change oh no

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things are getting better and we can interact with things better you know what maybe maybe Starcraft 3 will only

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run at 800 by 600 because anything higher than that would be too much

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detail yeah and we're going to move backwards

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in technology as we move forwards in the franchise Starcraft 3

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announc yes confirmed

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confirmed basic anyway yeah so it's

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interesting my one thing with it which is probably why you brought up the Oculus Fanboy thing but it's I'm not

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even coming from an Oculus Fanboy Direction when are you ever not coming

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from an Oculus Fanboy perspective rarely um but like I I you games have to be

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developed with this in mind pretty heavily like interaction for everything

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that they're going to want is going to have to be made so that it supports this

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which is a lot of work with uh Oculus if

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you develop under the right platform it's a button press and then hopefully

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some tuning okay yes Oculus is easier but that doesn't mean that you would

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have to program an entire game just for ey tracking because if you went and and

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you maybe even retroactively applied to an existing game but if you develop the

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game with the intention of making things interactive like say for example if my

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Crosshair was focused on you you might say hi yeah then all you're doing is

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changing one parameter so that instead of the Crosshair it's it's this and like

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I'm I'm hoping a lot of games do develop for it I'm just saying it might be

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struggling for the whole extra development side of things yeah um and

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it would be cool if people like patch it into their games I think that would be awesome and people would really

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appreciate that um or whatever else I

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just think they might have like you noticed in their video Developers

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developers developers the old Steve bomber thing essentially happened

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because almost the whole time they were asking for developers um the also the

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music was a little bit the music was

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ridiculous I was like are we starting a religion like what what's going on here

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speaking of starting a religion I just for those of you who haven't seen this

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iconic video you you must see it I mean this is the guy is just developers

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developers developers developers Developers developers developers

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yes oh Stevie B amazing I'm gonna miss

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him all right so yeah it had a little

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bit of a developers developers developers angle to it so I I hope

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people do jump on but I'm just thinking like if if you're an indie startup right

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now where are you going Oculus or this

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okay guys uh Twitter Blitz I'd love for you guys to let us know what you would

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like to see out of it tracking technology from a from a gaming

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perspective maybe as the main focus but also what would you like to see from

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just a general computer usage perspective I mean do you do you see the

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value more in the one video where they're talking about navigating the

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Windows modern UI or do you see the value more in something like gaming and

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let's talk just gaming from a chair so Oculus is okay because we're going we

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have some more topics for later on in the show that are going to be about gaming outside of a chair but let's

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let's get to that later so love to hear from you guys but first another topic so

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the Samsung Galaxy camera 2 I am actually very disappointed about this

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product yeah um I was hoping you might have gotten that from my notes I'm not

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sure they no I I didn't even know you were disappoint okay let's start with

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why you're disappointed uh well it's it's it's not phallic enough for you I

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guess wow wow luckily most people won't get

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that word yeah they will oh because now they'll look it up um it's it's not that

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amazing it it doesn't seem super good it doesn't seem like that big of an

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improvement it seems behind in the terms of smartphones also you can't call

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people which is what we were asking for last time they came up with this but it

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has NFC

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like jeez it's it's not that fast it's

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not that amazing it's just like there's

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two too much meh going on in my but why no one cares no effing cares NFC has all

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the NFC I mean who knows someone who bought

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a Galaxy camera that's something that I can't

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figure out like when you see these products and you're just like okay I

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have not yet seen a Galaxy Gear I've

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never seen one I've seen a few Pebbles you're not the only person I know that

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has a pebble right I've also seen them out in the wild like people I don't know

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yeah I've never seen a gear so like how much money did you lose on this

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project and like did you get the hint that it wasn't successful I mean Maybe

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I'm Wrong maybe Galaxy cameras is is is a big hit in like I don't like

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Kazakhstan or something in Korea they use a lot more Samsung devices than they use here I noticed that even just

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walking around but uh H I don't know

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maybe it is fic

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enough I think the biggest thing that I'm disappointed about here is just the

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fact that and you already covered this you already mentioned this there's no

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phone calling I don't see the value of a

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dedicated Android camera I don't see the value of a dedicated camera anymore

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especially looking at the direction that companies like Nokia are going in where

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they're adding more and more advanced Optics to phones I think that's the is

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amazing that's the convergence that we're going to see we're going to see

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bigger camera bumps on phones that are more optimized for professionals I mean

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this is the conversation we had with the whole modular phone concept is do people

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care more about the gaming performance of a phone do people care more about this do people care more about that but

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we're already kind of there the phone makers have the opportunity now to just

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create individual SKS rather than modular SKS that are more optimized for

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one thing or another and we've seen that with camera Samsung had an opportunity

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here to make a phone that is also a

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fantastic camera and it's really not that much more to add to it when you

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consider that the Galaxy camera series already has mobile data connectivity

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there's a SIM card in it there's a there's a SIM

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card put a microphone in a speaker on it

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for crying out loud give people the choice to say look I don't use my phone

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that much but I'm a Shutterbug yeah that

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would have made this a compelling device because I know a lot of people that would have just bought that because they

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don't actually care about their phone that much and then just had it replace their camera absolutely so there you go

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I mean anyway General specs it's got 2 gigs of RAM now instead of 1 gig it has

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1.6 GHz quad core processor we don't know exactly which one runs Android 4.3

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uh it has a 4.8 in super clear touch HD display whatever that means and 8 gigs

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of storage 2,000 milliamp battery and an

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expandable micro SD card slot I'm just

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so disappoint they changed the bends a little bit um ISO is the same Zoom is

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the same is the aperture better the aperture I think is that f1.4 is

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Aperture or 4.1 rather 4.1 yeah the old

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one was 2.8 wait no that would be worse then 4.1 is worse than 2.8 yes oh lower

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aperture is more better oh my God confusing things um yeah f4.1 squiggly

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line 86.1 mm the other one was F2 .8 W

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schooly line 5.9 T I know nothing about

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cameras so I'm hoping he can translate this no I'm I'm I well the problem is

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that I don't I'm having a hard time interpreting your numbers here as the

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problem that's directly taken from their website okay like Samsung's website I

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went to Samsung Because unless it has two lenses cuz this looks like 23 mm

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wide angle look oh never mind this is the other side my bad so better oh so

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it's side versus side the right side is the so it has dramatically better Optics

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then I was reading the wrong way okay yeah cuz you okay so it's a 2.8 aperture

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lens versus a 4.1 so that is a lot more

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light transmission that will be better for both picture taking and video

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recording that's in direct comparison to Galaxy camera 1 and another thing I

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would have liked to see included if you're going to call this thing a dedicated camera where's the 4K

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recording for the amount that you're charging for this thing and the fact

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that you still haven't even managed to put a phone in it Galaxy Note 3 does 4K

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recording I know it might not be anything super super special and that's

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not as good as a proper 4k camera but I mean at least it's it's a

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feature exists yeah I just I think there was a missed opportunity there trying to

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say in this it still does it's maximum video recording is 1080p 30 FPS just

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like Galaxy camera one all right so here is Twitter Blitz

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time I think the ey tracking in games like Battlefield would work to spot the

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enemy because you looked up at him so you know what that's interesting that's

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really cool what if cuz the spot mechanic you have to I I

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literally if I'm playing Battlefield I just continuously press Q the entire

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game pointing at all the things anyway

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um you know what I actually okay I

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probably interpreted his message wrong but I I think oh crap I had yeah no I

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had a completely different direction I was going with that oh yeah yeah yeah

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yeah yeah yeah yeah this maybe not for the hardcore keyboard mouse PC Gamers

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but the direction I kind of went with this was what if you could use it

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tracking as sort of a smart auto

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aim right yeah like as a way to correct

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clumsy joystick movements a little bit without just making the game feel

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completely stupid because you aim here and it hits on his head yeah if you're

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looking there and it actually moves it there that could be nice like if auto

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aim helped you do what you intended to do I think it would make gaming more

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accessible it would be interesting though because like if if you if you

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like look at your friend it would follow your eyes just like aim off the screen

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we're talking a few Generations before it's actually something usable but if if

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eye tracking could be used to make games accessible without dumbing them down I

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think that's the challenge I'm I had this in here I'm I'm really stoked for

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this for disabled Gamers that's one of the big reasons why I was really stoked

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for ocz Nia as well and I ended testing

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it for someone such a pile of poo but well no it actually was good enough that

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it helped someone I knew a buddy that didn't have a hand I used to play WoW

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with them and it helped him play WoW all right because he could control more of

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the game and he was someone who was willing to spend the amount of

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time it took to be able to learn how to use that thing in any way that made any

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amount of sense because it actually added something he needed it it wasn't

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worth it for me it was kind of fun but like wasn't worth using all right

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someone says would ey tracking be possible with the Oculus Rift um a

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future version perhaps certainly not the first one it would help because the

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screens inside would be illuminating your eyes yeah but I don't yeah be kind

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of difficult I think I would prefer eye tracking but of course suspicious people

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are going to say they're getting spied on um the way that ey tracking works is

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not something that the NSA could probably take advantage of is it the

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yeah um Preston is uh expressing some

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doubt as to the viability of it in the long

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term could it be like weote waggling in that it's entertaining for you know a

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few hours sorry um entertaining for a few hours but not necessarily that great

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in the long term perhaps although I

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think that the way that we envision eye tracking being implemented would be more

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like a natural yeah tack on to to other

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gameplay experiences as opposed to just being like here's an eye game pop the

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Balloons by looking at things yeah unless unless like I don't know it has

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to be implemented really well and that's that's the thing with like with window

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play that game for the rest of the show nice with Windows 8 I I see it like

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augmenting your use a little bit and in games I see it augmenting your use

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unless you are someone who wants to say increase the feature set because you are

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somehow physically disabled other than that I see it just augmenting and

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helping in little ways not being a main thing Chris is concern

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pretty much Echo yours about glitchiness and I think the first couple Generations

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are just going to be stupid and totally useless so many things are like that I

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mean there was all that excitement about leap motion and like where's that

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excitement gone I don't know how great it is um we're actually going to be

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getting one I think they have some kind of a software update coming sometime

439
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:51,880
next year and we're going to arrange to do our review with the new software

440
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,000
update so from like a fresh perspective review cool that's cool but yeah I I I

441
00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:01,600
think it's going to have to be able to learn that like this it should not eyee track it should

442
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:06,840
not track your eyes coming unless you have a surround

443
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,120
screen two people be

444
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:13,320
awesome uh Zach figures it would be great for smaller devices like phones

445
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,840
totally agreed uh what if you have to look at your mom who is offering pizza

446
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,519
rolls what if this is what I'm talking about looking at someone off

447
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:28,200
screen uh I think it's a good idea but could be a Nuance like ads oo what if

448
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:31,840
ads could take over your eye tracking Hardware on your notebook or your phone

449
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,080
or whatever and like you look at an ad and it's like yo dog I heard you like

450
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:40,159
used cars unless you could program into your

451
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:44,880
eye tracking thing to automatically close ads if you look at them ad block

452
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:50,399
for ey track yeah but we don't support ad block I'm just saying we also try not

453
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:56,399
to make ads particularly obnoxious like remember those old like um emoon ones

454
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:00,799
say something how many times have you heard something say something it's like

455
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:06,120
you know what if I wanted to talk to my computer I would go 10 years in the

456
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:10,399
future when that's actually your voice recognition doesn't sound like Hello

457
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:17,200
thank you for talking to the computer I only use this program to

458
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,760
insult my sister because it's hilarious

459
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,720
hopefully that's fixed tenes in the future yeah computer voice has been kind

460
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:27,320
of fail well it's a lot better now than when I was a kid yeah like back when we

461
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,279
were like entering like text to speech on like the Commodore like seriously it

462
00:33:29,399 --> 00:33:35,600
was only useful for like trying to make it swear that was the only thing you

463
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:42,120
could do with it in team not team speak invent I used to go um I T and then a

464
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,519
huge line of te's and rafflecopter I and

465
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,840
it would make it the person sound like it was a helicopter apparently we're out

466
00:33:45,399 --> 00:33:52,159
of focus hey uh Brandon do you mind fixing us I don't think I ever actually

467
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:55,639
set Focus I think it just I didn't notice that it wasn't quite right nice

468
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,279
oh oh no I don't think that's what Alexander even means I think he means

469
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:04,480
that the show is unfocused and off topic you know what Alexander I don't

470
00:34:01,639 --> 00:34:07,639
appreciate your attitude wow would love to see a game where you're presented

471
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:10,919
with an image or video as and the story progresses based on where you

472
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,679
look I think that would be so the the

473
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:23,079
the story line would have to be so branched that it wouldn't be able to be

474
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:24,960
very deep be really weird how do you

475
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:30,599
progress that's my issue anytime we ask for more branches

476
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:34,560
we suffer when it comes to death I mean you look at even things like

477
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:40,919
conversation trees in an RPG for example it's the same thing the more options you

478
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:43,000
have the more moral choices you have the

479
00:34:40,919 --> 00:34:47,200
less far you can go down each of the paths I mean I don't mind linear

480
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:51,800
gameplay for that reason I think some games do it really well but yeah and now

481
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:56,320
he's like just moving it all over the place willy-nilly it's like it already

482
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:58,879
looks better though well yeah now we can see my booby

483
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:06,440
um okay so let's go ahead and move into our next topic here back to the uh the

484
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,000
regular wow thing that we supposedly do

485
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:14,720
Razer has new headphones coming this is a news item because they are going to be

486
00:35:12,839 --> 00:35:19,440
launching them at CES presumably that's what we're guessing you can pre-order

487
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,280
them now although if I if it was me I

488
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:28,880
would probably wait for the reviews to come in uh this was posted by Tom pix on

489
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:31,320
the Forum and uh Tom is ly so excited

490
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:35,599
that this font was necessary it's probably the most like this looks like

491
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:38,800
it was sponsored post I think I've ever seen you know what's funny is what I was

492
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:44,400
going to say about it is that it looks really well done like look at this like

493
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:46,920
Tom went and like put the little product

494
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:50,200
Fe well done it is in nice little things and then he has the proper photos in the

495
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,920
right spots and bl blah it's like it's one of the nicest Tech news posts I've

496
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:57,880
ever seen all right so they have four different pairs of headphones or

497
00:35:56,319 --> 00:36:02,880
headsets coming I guess they're all headphones these are more like consumer

498
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:08,000
audio oriented as opposed to being purely gamer oriented which normally I

499
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:12,839
would have said is probably a positive indicator uh because generally speaking

500
00:36:10,319 --> 00:36:17,400
a more audio oriented product is not going to be like um Kraken forged for

501
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:24,040
example is a product that I would love to love because the idea of it is so

502
00:36:20,839 --> 00:36:27,200
beautiful like I would love to wear them

503
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,319
and just look that cool all the time but

504
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,839
the base is very loose and uncontrolled and very overwhelming to the point where

505
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:38,640
I don't enjoy them um

506
00:36:34,839 --> 00:36:40,119
so I hope that with the more audio

507
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Centric products they're heading in that direction but unfortunately the way that

508
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:51,040
they're describing these um is a little bit scary sounding so uh which which one

509
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:52,800
was it crisp natural something something

510
00:36:51,040 --> 00:37:01,480
something where was it I think it was the earphones Sleek whatever Etc I'm looking

511
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:04,160
for contr f Bas there we go so about the

512
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:10,119
analog headphones the DJ ones natural sounding Acoustics and heavy base scary

513
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:14,119
it's heavy base scares me but if they do it well okay hold on here we go here we

514
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,839
go the new audio this is from the press release I think the new audio lineup

515
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:22,680
will initially feature four models base heavy earphones analog stereo headphones

516
00:37:21,319 --> 00:37:27,720
Bluetooth headphones and DJ style headphones and then the djl style headphones one say that they have heavy

517
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,599
base right in the description so I'm going to reserve judgment until I can

518
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:35,560
actually try them um in terms of looks though they're beautiful they look great

519
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:39,240
and I have to again bring out with hpic one thing I noticed is a lot of times I

520
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:43,119
go to Tech news I love going there because everything I need is there

521
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,440
aluminum but I always have to go to the source to find everything and this I

522
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,599
actually did not have to go to the source to find everything which was kind

523
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:56,240
of cool put everything in there it all looks really good to be honest and if

524
00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:00,200
the if the build quality of them is anything

525
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,079
like the Kraken forg man I mean are

526
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,960
those the finest feeling headphones that you've ever hel the only thing I didn't

527
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:09,800
like was the thing I told you about where which if I moved and looked around

528
00:38:07,319 --> 00:38:14,280
I could feel them right shift but that's a weight issue that's a weight issue and

529
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:18,319
like I I could maybe see them fixing it with a type of headband right or

530
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,359
something but like that was not a big deal it's not like they slid off my head

531
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,839
I could just feel the weight shifting around but the aluminum construction did

532
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,640
make them particularly heavy so I definitely noticed it but it's not a big

533
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:34,440
deal it's just the only thing I man they're gorgeous I just wish they sounded more appealing to me yeah all

534
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:38,359
right so let's move on to you know what we should probably do our sponsor spot

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well brand and I will probably be like cutting it fairly close but we should be

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able to make it that's fine if you're a little bit late I think as long as I'm there I'm the important one anyway so

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596
00:42:56,119 --> 00:43:03,800
article was posted on the Forum by top war gamer and this one I'm not sure how

597
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:09,520
much credibility there is to it and the original articles from

598
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:13,960
uh nintendoenthusiast

599
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:16,440
decom but Wii U allegedly outsold the

600
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Xbox One globally last week I'll let you handle this they're linking to Nintendo

601
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:24,440
Enthusiast linking no oh wow did they

602
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:31,040
smash the previous sales records did they make much

603
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,760
coin would you have to be on mushrooms to think that it could go any better

604
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:38,559
than this keep going keep going keep going

605
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:47,280
that's all I had a I liked it so far yeah um so it's it's it was that

606
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,240
Nintendo Enthusiast linking to VG charts

607
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:55,680
okay but then VG charts itself is kind of like I don't know so even if it's not

608
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:59,680
entirely true we do know that Wii U sold really really well we do know it's doing

609
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:04,400
better yeah we know it's doing a lot better recently we also know the 3DS is

610
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:09,520
doing a lot better recently although 3DS sales I believe are also including other

611
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:16,559
variations of the same generation meaning 2DS and like 3DS

612
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,760
XL so okay 2DS is probably a really

613
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:22,200
large part of that in units terms but it doesn't cost as much as a 3DS and all

614
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,760
that kind of stuff is in there as well um also other interesting things is

615
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:32,760
they're saying like uh Xbox 360 and PS4 PS3 also outsold Xbox One and also

616
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:36,000
outsold Wii U for that matter yeah so there's like other interesting things

617
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,440
here and we're not sure how exactly accurate it is one funny thing is is it

618
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:44,480
breaks it down to certain regions if you go to the actual website and Japan sold

619
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:49,720
40 original ts's

620
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:54,559
40 it's like what where did they even find them I don't know and why do people

621
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,240
even want them I'm pretty sure those 40 are probably the only 40 left in in

622
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,920
existence that don't have broken shoulder buttons so I saw people

623
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:06,119
commenting that it was possibly like accidental sales mom's trying to buy

624
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:11,079
like 2 DS's and walk out of the store with an original one the sales guys is

625
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:17,599
like oh sure um yep got one of those here you go

626
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,839
ma'am please leave quickly don't go back

627
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:26,119
uh do you want a gift receipt with the oh sorry we don't do gift receipts because it's

628
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,960
um uh leprechaun day and you NE never

629
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:32,400
trust those leprechauns it's against my religion they return everything um but

630
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:36,960
there there's like there's pretty good reasons for it in my opinion you got one

631
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:42,359
I'm getting one well you're getting one actually it's kind of his Christmas

632
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,559
bonus yep so I I mean this is weird you

633
00:45:42,359 --> 00:45:50,000
tell people it's like okay instead of cash bonuses I was like I want people to

634
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:54,119
look around at the things in their lives and think of me rather than just like

635
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,400
some cash that they're going to put as a payment on their car and it's going to

636
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,079
be boring I want people to do things fun so this year uh Christmas bonuses at

637
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:06,880
Linus Media Group were not allowed to be cash I was like look you've got a budget

638
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:11,480
you have to spend it or I'm just not going to give it to you and you have to

639
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:17,160
buy stuff that's cool so edzel picked himself up one of those awesome Wacom

640
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,240
tablets that has the digitizer and is a

641
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:24,839
full Windows 8 tablet so that's pretty cool it's like a ,000 tablet so I was

642
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:26,920
like oh yeah okay I guess I guess I kind

643
00:46:24,839 --> 00:46:34,280
of underpaid you this year so fine whatever and then this guy uh

644
00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:37,720
ended up with uh what did you get well I

645
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,440
got a Wii U and and a KitchenAid mixer a

646
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:45,760
kitchen mixer it's like really that's the but every time he drinks a smoothie

647
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,240
it'll be like well you can use it other

648
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:54,440
stuff lus got me this movie which is good and creepy so why

649
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:58,559
Wii U though um well okay I'm thinking if if I'm going to play games by myself

650
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:02,000
I'm going to play PC games that's how that's going to happen if I'm going to

651
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:07,280
play games when people come over and hang out at my house it's of like we

652
00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:12,000
have land parties my group of friends have land parties but sometimes people

653
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,079
don't have the time or want to drag their computers over and we'll do other stuff and we started doing mine's too

654
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:22,599
heavy not that I've ever been invited to one of your land parties you actually have been many times you've never come

655
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,800
cuz you're a jerk um and so like my brother has a giant computer which is

656
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:29,599
really frustrating to move cuz it's in Cosmos too and it's water cooled and it weighs a ton and stuff like that so it's

657
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:36,359
great when we're all separate we all come together we started playing tabletop games and mixing it up a little

658
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:39,040
bit so I was thinking we you makes sense

659
00:47:36,359 --> 00:47:44,599
cuz like a lot of the even Mario Platformers um work with multiple people

660
00:47:41,319 --> 00:47:46,400
now right and I think with a Wii U on

661
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:49,400
some games you can get up to six people because four Wii modes then two gam pads

662
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:54,599
twitch chat hates you they're saying you're a peasant now dirty console

663
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,400
peasant yeah that's okay oh by the way for those of you who are question

664
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:01,800
questioning edel's wisdom picking up the Wacom tablet and I don't know why people

665
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Buy tablets I'm not talking about ablet tablet I'm talking about like a a tablet

666
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:10,920
tablet that kind of tablet so I mean he's an artist hello so having a tablet

667
00:48:09,319 --> 00:48:14,319
where you can actually draw directly on the screen and have a tablet that you

668
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:18,240
can like watch movies on on the bus he commutes by bus that is a totally

669
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,240
sensible purchase and I think it's a it's someone's like hashtag Linus is not

670
00:48:20,359 --> 00:48:25,200
funny hashtag Linus is not funny is better than hasht whatever the no I

671
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,800
don't want to talk about the other things anymore also another thing is I I

672
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,240
foresee Xbox One and PS4 emulators coming soon so I can play those

673
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:36,640
exclusives on PC if I I'm not going to

674
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:40,440
nope totally not going to happen um and Wii U ones I don't really see coming

675
00:48:38,839 --> 00:48:44,520
yeah it looks like that's been more difficult I it's hard to say up till

676
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:49,319
this point whether it hasn't happened because people don't care or whether it

677
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:51,400
hasn't happened because it's hard yeah

678
00:48:49,319 --> 00:48:56,880
no this that's true um there there is more complications than there would be

679
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:58,960
for PS4 and Xbox One it's B in to me

680
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,280
sorry I I'm changing gears a little bit here you can finish that thought I just

681
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,760
no it's just it's more complicated because of different Hardware things that are inside of a Wii U compared to

682
00:49:04,839 --> 00:49:11,720
just x86 which is on the other platform I mean was Nintendo playing a poker game

683
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:16,559
here it's like yeah we're going to do like um a hardware launch and we're just

684
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:23,200
going to like not have Mario and Zelda games yeah because there like up on the

685
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,640
horizon is Mario Kart 8 for Wii U why wasn't that out yet Super Smash Brothers

686
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Wii U what are you kidding me that actually wasn't out yet and then like

687
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:35,040
another Donkey Kong game but and then we just got Super Mario 3D worldland

688
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,240
country whatever it's called which is apparently awesome and I'm super stoked

689
00:49:36,839 --> 00:49:41,559
you're going to let me play that on wi right and that's coming with it because

690
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:46,200
that's a really highly rated game that I'm stoked for um but yeah like there's

691
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,720
there's stuff on the horizon that's like this wasn't a launch game like Mario

692
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:54,520
Kart didn't come out almost immediately afterwards yeah what so that's that's

693
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,799
baffling but at any rate Wii U might actually be a thing soon so exciting

694
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:04,200
speaking of exciting things T-Mobile just seems determined to turn

695
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:11,200
the entire Wireless industry on its ear and I love it this is great because what

696
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:15,319
happens in America eventually reaches their culturally handicapped cousin in

697
00:50:13,319 --> 00:50:18,960
the north seems to be taking a long time I'm actually not super sure on the

698
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:23,319
mobile side if that's happening here it will have to

699
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:27,440
eventually eventually you can't lag behind every other country if you're

700
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:32,880
want G to want to be considered a developed country but we seem to be able

701
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,960
to do that with phones yeah it's it's

702
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,760
not as bad as it used to be as someone who's had a cell phone since like the

703
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:45,400
first cell phone with a keyboard came out um it's not as bad as it used to be

704
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,799
not by a long shot so at any rate um he

705
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,640
he this was posted on like Twitter or something I think I I don't remember

706
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:56,359
where he posted it but it was 2013 New Year's resolutions shake up the wireless

707
00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:01,440
industry so um I don't know if you guys remember but U personally for me the big

708
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:07,160
one other than ending two-year contracts was making uh roaming making

709
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:12,240
international roaming inexpensive what a huge deal what a way to capture the

710
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:15,920
people who can afford the baller phone plans because those are the people who

711
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:21,720
are typically going to be traveling how amazing is that and of course there's

712
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:24,760
4glt and all that for 2014 make waves at

713
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:27,240
CES is one of the resolutions give AT&T

714
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:30,040
a break or not is one of the other ones and unshackle the family from those

715
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:36,079
other guys so there's a lot of speculation right now that what is going

716
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:38,200
to be announced is buying helping people

717
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:42,119
buy out their contracts yeah and like special plans for families because he

718
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:48,240
specifically calls out families they're literally gonna buy

719
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:51,760
customers that's awesome I love it I

720
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:53,720
would you know I don't mind giving a

721
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:58,119
whack ton of money to an internet service provider or a phone provider

722
00:51:55,319 --> 00:52:03,400
Ider if I can tell that they invested in me and I'm like yeah this service is

723
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,000
awesome yeah I mean our new fiber our

724
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:10,160
new fiber plan here where we're not dropping any frames anymore um the the I

725
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:14,920
mean okay aside from twitch's problems our Upstream is completely lag free and

726
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,559
the quality is much better than before okay I feel okay about paying a bunch of

727
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:24,480
money for that but what I feel really okay about is the fact that Tellus on a

728
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,520
few separate days sent a few separate

729
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,559
people to to run fiber underground down

730
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:35,040
the street for us link it up to our house for us and I know what I paid for

731
00:52:32,799 --> 00:52:41,280
so for the first year of my service or whatever it is I paid for them to invest

732
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:44,000
in me as a customer as opposed to paying

733
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:49,119
for them to kind of oh well okay we've got like 12 people on this 10 person

734
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:54,599
sort of spot now we can probably squeeze a 13th one in if like we lower our

735
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:58,000
global data caps a fair bit and rejig I don't feel good about about that but I

736
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:02,119
feel good when you're when you're investing in me so I I really wish like

737
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:05,799
my contract is coming up with Tellis and I've been looking around at other

738
00:53:03,319 --> 00:53:10,480
options and like there's some that might be better but none of them are like we

739
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:15,920
are the Glorious awesome side come join us like there isn't a T-Mobile in Canada

740
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:22,200
there's like the ever so slightly lesser evil but still evil ones yeah I know I

741
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,960
mean I'm okay with Belle I think I

742
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,359
called them buttheads once on the live stream and they actually were really

743
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:31,319
good we they were really good for a little while because they got massively

744
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:36,040
flamed for it and wanted that to stop well okay but but without calling them

745
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:41,520
buttheads at other times since then they've also dealt with stuff and in their defense that time it was something

746
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:44,400
particularly complicated and in this time it's because you have a specific

747
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:48,400
guy you're dealing with every single time which is the same as you dealt with the first time no no no no I've had to

748
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,920
do stuff through regular customer service since then as well so your account also might be flagged so I don't

749
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:57,599
like I'm I'm just saying I don't I don't hate them but I'm not in love with them

750
00:53:55,799 --> 00:54:02,040
or anything like that I just I just don't know if some of that is special

751
00:53:59,319 --> 00:54:09,000
consideration hard to say yeah I don't know but yeah okay do we want to get

752
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:10,960
into a lonus rant are you guys ready to

753
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,839
prepare yourselves we could have a funny one before we do that or we could cool

754
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:20,720
down with the funny one this is the funny one all right let's do the rant all right all right okay I love lus Tech

755
00:54:18,359 --> 00:54:24,400
tips Forum but I feel like we've gotten away from our core values a little bit

756
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:29,960
particularly in some of the sub forums and I'm not call out any particular

757
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,880
names in this case but the audio sub

758
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:36,920
Forum I've been finding a little bit unfriendly to people so this particular

759
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:41,520
thread was someone who posted saying hey I just got a sound card and I really

760
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:47,720
like it I'm really happy with it my my sound is better and louder and there's

761
00:54:44,359 --> 00:54:50,240
about five or six pages of people

762
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:56,400
crapping on the guy because he didn't have the almighty you know forethought

763
00:54:53,880 --> 00:55:02,000
to research search the specific places on the internet where the wisdom exists

764
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:07,960
that something like a E10 might have been a better option so an external abin

765
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Dack um and I didn't really find that

766
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:14,400
acceptable because of a couple of things number one is that as much as people

767
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:19,640
might be right and something like an objective 2 or a file E10 might be a

768
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:26,079
better option than pretty much any sound card in some cases nobody even went to

769
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:31,400
the trouble to ask a probing question and this is where I feel like a lot of

770
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:36,599
audio file people would do well to consider the old saying you'll catch

771
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:42,839
more flies with honey than with vinegar rather than being rude and abrasive to

772
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:44,880
people who are excited about the same

773
00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:48,520
thing that you're excited about and rather than being helpful to them and

774
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:53,480
and really being welcoming to them making fun of them is just going to

775
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:59,039
perpetuate the myths and the misconceptions that you claim to be

776
00:55:56,039 --> 00:56:00,319
trying to help them with so I'm going

777
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:04,480
let that sink in for a minute so the thing that bothered me is that after

778
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:09,319
five pages of people telling him that his onboard sound was fine and that the

779
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,119
solution he had used was terrible and that these were all the better Solutions

780
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:16,440
and he was basically an idiot for not realizing it and that any perception

781
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:21,640
that it sounded better was a placebo effect nobody actually recommended a

782
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:26,799
comparable product to the sound card that the op had purchased it was a Zone

783
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:32,119
RDG which is a 30 $ sound card remember

784
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:34,319
guys $30 for an amp and a DAC and an

785
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:39,720
upgraded microphone input the problem people have with onboard sound is not

786
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:42,280
always pure sound quality sometimes it's

787
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:46,480
sound volume if they're using headphones that are more difficult to drive

788
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:51,680
sometimes it's their mic input that is a big steamy pile of garbage sometimes

789
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:55,920
it's a driver issue and the external solution might be better to resolve a

790
00:56:54,440 --> 00:57:00,799
driver issue because most of them are completely driverless or it might not be

791
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:06,400
because the driver issue might also be related to the mic in and most external

792
00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:09,240
sound cards only have a headphone out

793
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:15,480
also nobody asked him what onboard sound he was using what we all kind of agree

794
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:20,839
on what the audio file Elite seem to agree on is that any sound card on built

795
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:26,000
into a motherboard for the last sort of few years at least is pretty darn good

796
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:30,039
no one even asked the guy if he was running a 5-year-old board and I had

797
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,720
someone post that if they're running I forget what it was 5-year-old Hardware

798
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,880
then they should basically buy a new rig anyway we're talking about a $30 sound

799
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:43,480
card not a new rig and we're talking about a seven-year-old rig could

800
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:45,559
potentially still have a q6600 in it

801
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:51,480
which is perfectly fine for watching YouTube videos and playing indie games

802
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:54,559
and even some AAA titles still so the

803
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:58,280
elitism and this assumption that a sound

804
00:57:54,559 --> 00:58:00,359
card is an invalid choice is not true

805
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:06,200
whatever videos might be being released on Tech syndicate's channel that are

806
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,520
elevating products like the objective 2

807
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:14,520
or the file E10 or these external products to this deity like status are

808
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:17,880
they better yeah actually I personally

809
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,599
prefer them I can I can

810
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:27,200
subjectively tell that something like an O objective 2 Amp has less of a of an

811
00:58:24,839 --> 00:58:32,680
audible noise floor than something like a sound card I can tell I can't tell on

812
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:37,599
all my headphones and it's not something that I would notice necessarily day

813
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,680
today but I can tell so are they better

814
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,880
yes but are they necessarily comparable

815
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:47,880
I mean an E10 alone costs about 70 Bucks versus the $30 the op spent and an

816
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:53,760
objective to amp alone is I think over $150 or somewhere in that range it's

817
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:56,960
over $100 anyway and the amp and D combo

818
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,680
is over 200 it's around 250 so there you

819
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:03,799
go guys I've been asked to weigh in on the whole sound cards versus external

820
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:10,240
amps and Dax thing for a while consider that my way in are they better sure are

821
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:12,599
they always the obvious and only choice

822
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,960
no that's all there's even there's even some people like I don't want one

823
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,440
because I don't want another external device at my computer I like the fact

824
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:24,920
that my sound card is in my computer now there's someone that I've been interfacing with on the Forum we've been

825
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,839
talking about how we could maybe possibly mount a deck really far away

826
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:33,240
from everything else in our computer and then rote cables and all this kind of stuff so that you could actually have

827
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:37,119
one inside your computer but there's also that which people seem to

828
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,359
completely ignore which is like oh yeah any setup ever can just have this

829
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:45,480
external deck don't worry about it it's like no sometimes you want something

830
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:51,039
inside your computer yep I don't know there's there's there's quite a few

831
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,720
reasons but yeah so anyway are we are we

832
00:59:51,039 --> 00:59:57,440
are we move on time now can we do the you can talk about something else I'm still cooling down

833
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:02,720
anyway okay no I have one more thing to say just basically guys look The linest

834
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:07,240
Tech tips.com Community was built on being friendly and welcoming to people

835
01:00:05,319 --> 01:00:12,680
that's how we've grown so fast that's how we've got almost 50,000 members in

836
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:17,200
the first year of existence we will not keep that up if we are unfriendly to

837
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,799
people it's fine to tell someone that something is a better option but if they

838
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:25,599
already bought it think about what you're saying why would you just crap on

839
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:29,280
them for something they already bought you can you can ask a gently probing

840
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:33,680
question like hey are you still within your return window here's another option

841
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:38,839
you may have considered but the cold hard fact of the matter is that in that

842
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,880
particular thread anyway the op wanted

843
01:00:38,839 --> 01:00:46,240
the sound to be louder they bought a sound card with an amp mission

844
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:50,200
accomplished is it as perfect as some other solution might have been maybe not

845
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:56,480
but that doesn't mean you need to be a jerk about it there it's also an international Forum do o2s get shipped

846
01:00:53,799 --> 01:00:59,799
everywhere I'm not not sure uh I know that there are builders in Europe if

847
01:00:58,039 --> 01:01:03,799
nothing else okay cuz it's just an open design so lot there's lots of lots of

848
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:07,119
guys that do it yeah yeah are you good no I'm done now you're

849
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,400
done now I'm just going to have some water okay um I I don't know how we're

850
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:16,960
going to look at this one because I think he's done but if you want to go to the massive iPod one uh it's just the

851
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:20,599
one right below we first have to ignore the picture that's on the thread because

852
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:27,039
as you can probably tell upon immediately seeing it that's totally not

853
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:29,480
what it's going to look like um but

854
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:33,359
anyways it's a 12 point it's a massive massive iPod and people are specul or

855
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,280
iPad sorry people are speculating what it would be used You could argue an iPad

856
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:42,079
is a massive iPod yeah it is is it not yeah I'm just

857
01:01:40,839 --> 01:01:47,440
saying you corrected yourself but you weren't quite wrong not entirely I guess

858
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:53,000
um so so it's it's huge and part of the problem is that I can't see anyone

859
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,319
holding it to use it like what 12.9 in

860
01:01:53,000 --> 01:02:00,640
12.9 in I believe that's not that much smaller than this or wait hold on I mean

861
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:05,039
is that even that big this is 12 so just pull that for context for the people

862
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:11,039
it's still weird like I don't like it's this is

863
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:11,039
still really weird to

864
01:02:11,279 --> 01:02:17,279
hold okay no that's going to be heavier

865
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:21,400
than the iPad would be um but and people are speculating about possibly bigger

866
01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:25,359
ones too because it's supposed to and the problem with this is I think that a

867
01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:29,520
name may have le and then everything else was Creed around

868
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:35,119
it which is part of a problem so I've been like I walked by a Mac store uh the

869
01:02:33,319 --> 01:02:37,880
other day how was that for you it was actually kind of weird did the light

870
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:42,640
from the inside of the store burn your skin it's so bright have you noticed

871
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:49,240
that and everything's white I'm just like oh my God anyways I the iMac are

872
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,480
super super thin mhm so if anything I

873
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:55,839
kind of thought that maybe they're coming out with another iMac style

874
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,880
product that's running iOS M like maybe

875
01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:01,720
it has a stand or maybe it has a stand and you can take it off the stand is

876
01:02:59,279 --> 01:03:06,319
that legitimately interesting to you no you've never really used iOS

877
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:11,240
extensively have you not extensively I have used it though it's not a bad

878
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:16,680
experience I don't like the store and I don't like the lack of some

879
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:19,200
options but like once once it's all once you're kind of done setting everything

880
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:24,799
up and you're done downloading all your apps and you're done doing all that kind of stuff cuz I don't like the store at

881
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,799
all um it's fine and once you're in an

882
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:30,960
app it's the same what's not to like about the store it works basically the

883
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:35,880
same way in fact I would say if I was going to I don't like the the login

884
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:40,480
protection stuff it seems like a waste of time oh I think you can disable it

885
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:44,880
now now yeah okay that wasn't a thing before when I used it but it's been a

886
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:47,960
while I don't know I've never done like a I'm going to switch to iOS for a while

887
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,599
I've just been like oh I'm trying to use your device oh I trying to download oh

888
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,599
you know what we should do you know how we've done I switch hold on hold on hold

889
01:03:53,720 --> 01:04:01,400
on just you know how we've done I switched

890
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:04,799
in the past you and I should both switch

891
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:08,319
to OS 10 at the same time OS 10 for a

892
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:09,599
month H just on our work computers

893
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:13,520
that's going to make it worse actually no it won't yeah because it runs Excel

894
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:18,079
that's all I do on that you don't have to use it all time you know what I'm going to do I'm going to I'm going to

895
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:22,680
turn it on I'm going to open Excel and then I'm going to do everything else off

896
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:25,839
of it and I'll just type into Excel that

897
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,599
is that is not that is not the spirit of

898
01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:32,839
the experiment that we would be trying I've probably used iOS more than or OS X

899
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:36,680
more than you have I used to work in repair shops I've hardly used it at all

900
01:04:35,279 --> 01:04:42,400
I've worked in repair shops like every time it's it's funny cameraman the old

901
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:45,440
like cameraman cameraman back at NC used

902
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,480
to be he would just be in stitches every

903
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:51,240
time he watched me try to use a Mac because I'd like sit down in front of

904
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:55,440
his computer and like without realizing it expose all over the streen I'm like

905
01:04:53,720 --> 01:05:00,599
how do I get to the how do I get to the window I'm trying to see and then there was a grand opening of like an Apple

906
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,680
Store type thing that had some iMac and I like sat down in front of it and I was

907
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:08,079
like trying to launch a program and I couldn't figure out how to find I was

908
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:13,799
like I honestly I would have settled for any program couldn't launch a

909
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:17,359
program it's it's yeah it's weird the the problem for me is it's supposed to

910
01:05:15,279 --> 01:05:21,720
be super intuitive but because of everything else I've used it's totally

911
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,319
not and I have no idea what's going on speaking of intuitive I played around

912
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:31,000
with Steam OS finally today um it doesn't do much but it works sort of uh

913
01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:36,119
the Xbox 360 wireless controller was easier to get running using on Windows

914
01:05:33,279 --> 01:05:39,599
were you using that box the uh the The Raven one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

915
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:44,079
yeah I took it to NCIX today we still filmed them at an episode with it but

916
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:47,640
like the wireless controller just worked

917
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:49,039
honestly drivers for Linux haven't

918
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:53,119
usually been that big of a problem lately lately not we're not talking

919
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:56,119
about 5 years ago but like even like I was talking to you the other day

920
01:05:54,799 --> 01:06:00,480
every time I've installed Linux on something that had Wireless or land they

921
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:06,200
both have worked immediately it's remarkable how many network cards don't

922
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:10,839
automatically install Intel network cards that don't automatically install

923
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,799
on Windows 7 and Windows 8 yeah uh anyway and that's the biggest thing is

924
01:06:12,359 --> 01:06:17,680
as long as you get network working and like an input device I can go manually

925
01:06:16,279 --> 01:06:21,559
do the rest of it I don't care I'm kind of stoked on Steam OS I think what I'm

926
01:06:19,279 --> 01:06:25,720
going to do cuz I have a media center PC once they get things like Netflix

927
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:31,039
streaming and a proper desktop experience that kind um yeah browser

928
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:34,960
based but I I want an app like if I'm going to use something I would want to

929
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:39,000
be able to control it completely with either valves controller or an Xbox 360

930
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:46,200
controller and you know what this is going to okay this is going to sound super ignorant but I I I I I just about

931
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:50,799
like lost it when I saw that mozilla's browser on Linux is called ice

932
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:57,119
weasel I was like what is that a knockoff no it's made by Mozilla is it

933
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:02,279
I've used Firefox on Linux before yeah you've never heard of ice

934
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:06,359
weasel ice weasel versus Firefox yeah I was like what cuz I was like you look at

935
01:07:04,839 --> 01:07:09,720
the logo for it here I'll pull up the logo for okay for so for those of you

936
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:16,359
who are like me and have never heard of ice weasel I'll pull up the uh logo here

937
01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:16,359
but it's like hilarious get ice

938
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:29,920
weasel.com I I just I'd never heard of this one okay okay I was I was like oh

939
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,599
that's hilarious it's yeah no I I'd never heard of it being a part of the

940
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:38,680
mailla project I knew I knew there was I've heard of it in general I've also

941
01:07:35,319 --> 01:07:40,039
heard of waterf fox waterfox is a as I

942
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,799
don't know if it still is but this was it when I used to use it was it was a

943
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:49,079
further back version of Firefox which is super performance optimized ah and they

944
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:52,039
would take Firefox versions performance optimized them and then release them

945
01:07:50,359 --> 01:07:55,160
under waterf Fox I don't know if that's what they're still doing I haven't used

946
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:59,160
it for a long time because I've been running nightly forever um but yeah

947
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:04,680
there there's a lot of different versions CU it's open so I'm not super

948
01:08:01,799 --> 01:08:07,880
surprised and given how unstable the official one's been lately I'm kind of

949
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,079
tempted to try maybe I should switch to ice

950
01:08:10,279 --> 01:08:15,520
weasel well ice weasel is Debian so I

951
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:20,520
don't know is it does it work on maybe I'll just switch to deian I don't game

952
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:22,480
Much Anymore anyway you know what when I

953
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:26,839
I tell you what guys I will commit this now the reason that I haven't switched

954
01:08:24,679 --> 01:08:32,560
over to Linux uh just even to do a 30-day I switched is because I can't

955
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:35,159
afford the productivity hit once I have

956
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:38,880
Steam OS streaming working oh cuz you're not used to it yeah cuz I'm not used to

957
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:43,880
it I I I have too much work to do I was like what no no no no no no um once game

958
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:46,920
streaming works and the other thing is when I do want to play a game I don't

959
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:51,440
want to mess around with which one's compatible with Linux and waste my time

960
01:08:48,759 --> 01:08:55,560
on that so when game streaming is working in Steam OS I will do a 30-day

961
01:08:53,560 --> 01:09:01,520
Linux I switched I will put my Windows gaming box in my server room and I will

962
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:04,759
only stream from it so you I will do that with you if you want although it

963
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:08,920
might be boring yeah I think yours will be very uninteresting the entire series

964
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:12,759
of videos will be me being like whoa this and you being like yeah we've had

965
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:17,400
that for like 10 years oh my God you can make a cube

966
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:22,159
desktop I've seen that actually I am aware of that and you can get that for

967
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:28,040
Windows as well smarty pants yeah I know all right uh so this is post posted on

968
01:09:24,679 --> 01:09:31,000
the Forum by top war gamer along with uh

969
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:36,960
a comment by top war gamer that that probably isn't a thing but uh so this

970
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:43,319
was posted by uh okay so we're posting from TechnoBuffalo and then they're uh

971
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:45,759
reposting from oh bollocks pretty sure

972
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:49,719
it's in their micro AIS micro micro AIS or something like that anyway micro AIS

973
01:09:48,080 --> 01:10:00,640
the point is these numbers suggest that Sony's possibility of bankruptcy is 78.4

974
01:09:53,719 --> 01:10:00,640
49% in the next 2 years which I find

975
01:10:00,679 --> 01:10:06,360
both plausible and very very difficult

976
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:10,960
to believe because you look at Sony's business practices over the last 10

977
01:10:08,199 --> 01:10:15,000
years they are one of the least consumer friendly companies in existence they're

978
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:19,360
like trying to see in how many places they can stab themselves Yes except for

979
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:24,159
PlayStation except for PlayStation well even even PlayStation like they they are

980
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:29,640
not necessarily they're not pushing the industry forward

981
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:31,679
no PS4 was maintaining the status quo

982
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:37,120
the only reason they got so much Applause for it was that Microsoft was

983
01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:41,880
busy firing off like shotgun rounds into their own feet at the same time like

984
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,800
that is the only be really interesting to see a battle between these two I mean

985
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:50,120
PlayStation 4 some of the things that were supposed to be Forward Thinking

986
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:57,120
about PS4 aren't even implemented out of the gate like the like no DRM on the

987
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:59,600
HDMI output why is hdcp still there for

988
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:04,719
gameplay son's like yeah we support twitch live streaming but you don't you

989
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:10,800
can't archive the footage so just live streaming yeah yeah look at us we're

990
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,920
Sony we're cool now right yeah pop the

991
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:18,159
color it's like they think popping your color is still cool that Sony I mean the

992
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,080
kind of crap they pull whether it's on the consumer grade products or on the

993
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:27,000
professional grade products like the ones that we use make the put consumers

994
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:31,199
in a frame of mind where it's like I might have to buy this right now but as

995
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:35,960
soon as I have another option I will never buy any of your stuff I was two

996
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:41,120
months out of warranty on a button okay on a button on a hand grip for an

997
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:47,960
$88,000 camera and they refused to deal with it that was when I was in the

998
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,760
service shop paying $400 for a firmware

999
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:54,440
upgrade this is the kind of crap that people don't want to deal with so when

1000
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:59,040
that open source camera thing that Brandon's all excited about rolls around

1001
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:03,960
or I mean even guys like black magic allowing you to do things like use any

1002
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:05,800
SSD you want as media for the camera as

1003
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:10,360
newer Innovative companies that have a more forward-thinking way of doing

1004
01:12:07,480 --> 01:12:13,159
business come around I do see Sony going out of business but that's what that

1005
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:17,120
brings in the Google argument that we talked about they they rode in on the

1006
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:22,639
shoulders of being open and now they're closing everything down what Sony Google

1007
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:26,840
oh okay yeah yeah cuz Sony was never open no oh so you think that someone

1008
01:12:24,639 --> 01:12:30,440
like black magic might gain popularity by being cheap and accessible cheap

1009
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:35,480
accessible open all that kind of stuff they're so welcoming to but it's always

1010
01:12:32,679 --> 01:12:40,440
cyclical yeah no I don't like you know it's always cyclical and I

1011
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:44,199
mean Sony still has time to stop being buttholes yeah that that was my thing is

1012
01:12:42,679 --> 01:12:47,920
like if they don't react at all that would be the weirdest thing ever either

1013
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:51,920
way they own enough they own enough patents and they have enough assets that

1014
01:12:49,639 --> 01:12:55,360
I really don't see them like if they if they sit on patents liquidate a few

1015
01:12:53,719 --> 01:13:01,000
things and just kind of like chill and just try to develop things that are making money then they'll probably be

1016
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:05,800
fine so there was some interesting discussion in the uh in the thread that

1017
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:10,080
I thought was that I thought was really you know actually kind of uh informative

1018
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:13,480
so people were discussing some of the buildings Sony's had to sell over the

1019
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:17,800
last couple of years and the fact that they are in quite Dire Straits the fact

1020
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:22,080
that they are losing money on each PS4 on what I personally believe is a

1021
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:26,360
completely dead business model the traditional console so well I guess

1022
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:30,719
we'll see maybe it's as I don't think they're going to go bankrupt no I don't think but I think crazy things might

1023
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:34,480
happen I think crazy things could happen all right I'm going let you handle this

1024
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:40,040
one entirely because you are pretty stoked on this topic super stoked so

1025
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:44,000
it's it's short to actually put the premise out there what it is is they're

1026
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:48,239
adapting USB so it can do 20 volts 5 amps which is essentially 100 watts and

1027
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:54,440
it's bir directional power and can still transfer data and it can the power can

1028
01:13:50,639 --> 01:13:56,480
be renegotiated as needed now

1029
01:13:54,440 --> 01:14:01,360
didn't the B directional power thing basically you could power your laptop

1030
01:13:58,639 --> 01:14:03,960
you could power your monitors those are two very common things that you could

1031
01:14:02,679 --> 01:14:10,080
power with this because they're within that wattage range now with B directional power you could use a USB

1032
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:13,480
battery pack to power your laptop or you could use your laptop to power a USB

1033
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,840
battery pack which is actually really cool so if

1034
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:20,800
your laptop's full battery and you're plugged into a wall say and you don't

1035
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:24,760
need more power you can plug in a USB battery pack and shove it towards the

1036
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:28,000
USB battery pack if your laptop's dying and you have a USB battery pack in your

1037
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:31,960
bag you can plug in USB battery pack and shove the power towards your laptop and

1038
01:14:29,719 --> 01:14:35,000
power it back up or just keep it running or like even something like a phone it's

1039
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:41,000
like I'm desperate I need to get that document off my laptop oh

1040
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:42,639
yeah yes success it's actually just like

1041
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,400
anything you can just be like nope sap the power put it here and I'm really

1042
01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:52,840
excited about the new kinds of peripherals that this will enable so things like being able to run a full

1043
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:56,480
performance monitor off of a USB port is like pretty cool and then if that

1044
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:59,719
monitor has a USB hub you could also run a keyboard and mouse full power and

1045
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:06,000
flash drives and everything because that's that's a worry is if a keyboard doesn't have two cables coming from it

1046
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:09,440
you often don't use the USB hub that's built into it because your flash drive

1047
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:14,040
is going to run super slow or your mouse won't really work super great or

1048
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:17,320
whatever so if if you can do one nice cable that runs all the power you could

1049
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:21,159
need that would be sweet yeah I'm pretty excited I think that this does a couple

1050
01:15:19,239 --> 01:15:26,080
of things so one is it improves the flexibility of the user experience and

1051
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:27,800
number to is it positions USB 3 as a

1052
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:31,960
legitimate alternative to Thunderbolt I mean Thunderbolts already seen a bump to

1053
01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:36,960
20 gbit but USB 3 is going to be coming at 10 gbit and when you consider that it

1054
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:43,280
can carry this massive amount of power as well being being able to use USB I

1055
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:47,320
mean USB 3 10 gigabit is going to be

1056
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:49,920
lots of data for your monitor for your

1057
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:53,760
keyboard mouse card reader and all that stuff to the point where you could have

1058
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:58,360
a dock that's just USB 3 and and no extra power even if you use low power

1059
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:04,920
peripherals and the whole thing just works so it's pretty sweet renegotiable

1060
01:16:02,679 --> 01:16:11,080
which renegotiated it is able to be renegotiated now I wasn't entirely sure

1061
01:16:07,239 --> 01:16:12,800
if that was like you use some type of UI

1062
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:17,040
or something to tell it what way you want the power to go be automatic how

1063
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:20,480
exactly that works yeah but it just say I I'm guessing maybe like this device is

1064
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:24,040
lower on Power and this one has a ton let's go that way I don't know exactly

1065
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:28,320
what it's saying that um but I believe you can use less or

1066
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:32,520
more so if you have a device that doesn't have battery in it but needs to

1067
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:37,239
draw Power say a monitor it doesn't have to take 100 Watts you could take the

1068
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:41,560
like 25 Point whatever that it's probably going to be which is pretty

1069
01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:45,679
cool all right so this is a pretty short one but as someone who is playing

1070
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:51,560
through uh Wolf Among Us and we'll be starting Walking Dead Season 2 very soon

1071
01:16:48,639 --> 01:16:56,239
um I'm pretty stoked on this uh Telltale spills details on game Game of Thrones

1072
01:16:54,800 --> 01:17:00,600
as well as Tales from the Borderlands which I am significantly less excited

1073
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:06,159
about I think everyone's like yeah Game of Thrones and more stuff yeah that

1074
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:09,080
other thing that I mean how was story a strong point for Borderlands I mean

1075
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:13,199
maybe Telltale can turn it into something interesting but really

1076
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:18,199
Borderlands story I didn't play Borderlands 2 but I did play Borderlands

1077
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:23,280
one and I think yachy probably put it best and the entire plot of Borderlands

1078
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:27,520
seems to be go shoot Jason bores in a SC yard I mean that sometimes you're

1079
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:31,560
stealing something sometimes you're avenging someone sometimes you're

1080
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:38,800
stealing something and avenging someone but that's the entire game and so yeah I

1081
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:41,159
don't know anyway I love how they came

1082
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,280
the story for Borderlands 2 as well it's like there was Vault hunters and they

1083
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:52,800
got a vault and then they opened the Vault what are we going to do another Vault new Vault it's like we need more

1084
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:54,520
vaults all the vaults no he like I

1085
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,960
didn't mind the story line it was actually it was nice and funny and I

1086
01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:03,320
like the characters and stuff like that I was just like that's not the reason why I think too many people bought it

1087
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:09,400
all right this is this is like the most predictable news of the Year AMD

1088
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,960
announces mantle uh well the man well

1089
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:15,159
mantle in itself isn't necessarily delayed but the Battlefield 4 patch

1090
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:19,800
supporting mantle has been delayed it was supposed to come out in December but

1091
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:24,960
I I think it was like around Christmas time and I was like looking at my watch

1092
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:27,760
and I was like hm so the devs are

1093
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:31,480
probably at home with their families and we don't have a patch yet and there's

1094
01:18:29,719 --> 01:18:35,560
probably like time after Christmas where they're still going to be everyone's

1095
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:39,639
going to be hung over on the 1st and everyone's going to leave early on the

1096
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:44,000
31st so like realistically and then like two days

1097
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:49,800
later I got the email I was like yep we're not going to make it uh so they're

1098
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:55,639
they're saying January sometime now I don't think we have a clear indication

1099
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:57,280
as to why it was delayed or exactly when

1100
01:18:55,639 --> 01:19:01,239
it's coming but I think the general consensus on the Internet is that it's

1101
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:05,440
because Battlefield 4 is such a broken mess in other ways that adding a new API

1102
01:19:03,719 --> 01:19:09,560
to it is a low priority I hope that's the reason I hope

1103
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:15,239
that's the reason I hope that it's they're not it's not difficulty implementing mantle because I'm pretty

1104
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:19,360
excited to test mantle actually like really excited to test mantle yeah

1105
01:19:17,480 --> 01:19:23,520
exactly and I hope there's no real bugs with mantle I what I'm hoping is that

1106
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:26,480
it's going to be this huge and EA is going to try to use it as a huge

1107
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:30,800
purchasing blitz so that people will buy the game which I'm going to be okay with

1108
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:34,800
because hopefully they fix everything when they do that so if they bug fix it

1109
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:38,639
and hit it with mantle at the same time and then do a campaign around that they

1110
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:45,000
can be like pf4 revitalized go buy the game now $

1111
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:47,080
22.99 CU or lower because prices don't

1112
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:51,400
seem to mean anything yeah buying games at launch seems to be just crazy these

1113
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:56,480
days it's like you can get AAA titles for half price usually two three weeks

1114
01:19:53,560 --> 01:20:02,040
after launch what the hell all right uh speaking of Battlefield 4 this was

1115
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:04,719
actually posted last week by aliz and

1116
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:10,960
Battlefield 4 is now officially banned in China even talking about it on their

1117
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:14,800
largest social media Network I can never remember what that bloody thing is

1118
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:22,159
called because I never actually go there but it's kind of relevant hold on

1119
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:24,159
I is it wo wo weeo I don't know can't

1120
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:29,920
remember probably pronouncing it wrong anyway weo weibo.com okay so no

1121
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:35,239
downloads no patches no demos no promotional materials no news reports

1122
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:40,120
about Battlefield 4 China's Ministry of culture issued a notice prohibiting all

1123
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:44,960
materials related to the game in any form including game downloads okay I

1124
01:20:42,679 --> 01:20:49,560
apparently wrote that twice calling it a threat to National Security and a form

1125
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:55,080
of cultural aggression I think they're specifically talking about the China

1126
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:57,360
Rising DLC um but Battlefield 4 single

1127
01:20:55,080 --> 01:21:01,840
player too including and I'm gonna pronounce this wrong it's like

1128
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:07,280
S4 something like that like whatever the Chinese translation of Battlefield 4 is

1129
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:11,320
like that term is just completely banned um across the board apparently people

1130
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:15,560
are still trading it back and forth using P2P networks which is actually

1131
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:19,760
kind of Epic which is unexpected and unusual I don't know why anyone would

1132
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:23,600
think that was going to happen at all what you can't just erase things

1133
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:27,080
from the internet that was a meme a while ago when was

1134
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:32,000
that who who tried doing that that was awesome I think it was the US no I

1135
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:36,960
thought it was some actress she ordered that her pictures be removed from the

1136
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:39,040
internet yeah that was what it was um um

1137
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:42,320
I don't remember who it was cuz I didn't moved from the but I thought it was

1138
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:47,639
funny that she thought she could just do that was it like Beyonce or something

1139
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:51,080
maybe I'll see if it was I'll see if it was

1140
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:56,120
Beyonce seems like the kind of thing yeah yeah yeah Beyonce's public IST asks

1141
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:00,960
the internet to remove unflattering Beyonce pictures hello Internet can you

1142
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:06,480
remove these photos for me please it's like you know what the cold hard truth

1143
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:08,920
is that and Beyonce is no exception most

1144
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:14,320
celebrities are not particularly attractive my favorite thing is uh an

1145
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:16,679
illusion America's Next Top Model oh not

1146
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:21,080
attractive yeah not easy to put makeup on yeah I mean the thing about it is

1147
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:26,120
just and I'm not saying that like you know ugly people aren't valuable or

1148
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:31,400
something like that I'm just saying that this unrealistic standard of beauty

1149
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:33,679
isn't real and and

1150
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:36,440
like what we think these people look like has nothing to do with anything

1151
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:43,000
actually I think self Park probably did it best that's the probably the strongest episode of South Park that

1152
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:45,040
I've seen in W probably a couple years

1153
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:49,040
is the have you seen the one where Wendy I can imagine Wendy goes after all the

1154
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:52,280
girls for negative body image because there's one girl that's getting picked

1155
01:22:50,199 --> 01:22:56,639
on or something so she photoshops her to look unrealistic and amazing and then all the

1156
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,639
boys are all of a sudden like oh wow and they everyone wants to date her even

1157
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:04,719
though in person she still doesn't actually look any different she's still a normal person but then that girl gets

1158
01:23:03,239 --> 01:23:08,600
an attitude about it and then all the other girls Photoshop themselves and

1159
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:13,040
turns into a big I mean it's like it's South Park right so everything goes from

1160
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:19,560
bad to worse but the point of it is unrealistic and it's dumb okay Haswell e

1161
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:25,000
pricing has been leaked and there are absolutely no surprises to anyone who

1162
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,960
has seen Intel high-end CPU pricing

1163
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,000
structure in the last decade there was people freaking out about this and I was

1164
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:36,000
like oh those are numbers that make sense and have been here before okay so

1165
01:23:32,440 --> 01:23:39,960
the i7 whatever 60x will be $1,000 just

1166
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:42,880
like it's been since the 96 5x or the

1167
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:49,440
925 x or whatever the original one was that was a long time ago guys um they I

1168
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:51,480
they the whatever 30k will be around 600

1169
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:55,880
yes and it's an eight core now which is awesome both of them are rumored to be

1170
01:23:52,920 --> 01:24:01,199
eight cores and the whatever 20 will be unlocked again just like Ive and it will

1171
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:03,400
be around 400 it's like and it's a six

1172
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:08,120
core now instead of a quad core so this this positions Haswell e too actually in

1173
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:12,440
my mind I'm I'm I'm not disappointed in any way by this the pricing is exactly

1174
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:17,639
where we'd expect it to be and it will position Haswell e as legitimate

1175
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:22,440
performance upgrade to the mainstream socket for the first time in a couple

1176
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:26,199
Generations now I think this is great for high amount of cores well yeah but

1177
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,840
where else is there going to be more no I know but that's yeah and the clock

1178
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:34,760
speeds should be similar I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be I think

1179
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:39,360
uh what one was it I think they're they're a little bit lower are they not

1180
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:44,280
uh they might be there's more anyway the uh this was posted by vus hun on the

1181
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:49,280
Forum and uh the original article is from tech power up but at any rate we're

1182
01:24:46,679 --> 01:24:54,159
looking at a Haswell refresh sometime in Q4 2014 so we still have to wait about a

1183
01:24:51,760 --> 01:25:00,320
year for it and we'll also get an x99 chipset so after several long years x79

1184
01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:04,880
will finally be replaced but I'm I'm pretty excited about it it seems like it

1185
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:10,119
should actually matter unlike Ivy bridg e quite frankly ddr4 will be interesting

1186
01:25:07,119 --> 01:25:11,280
here ddr4 will be uninteresting well

1187
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:15,400
it's going to be interesting because everyone that wants to move to this is going to have to buy new RAM and it's

1188
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:18,600
probably going to be crazy expensive oh okay so instead of like for the last

1189
01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:23,080
while where people have been able to go like okay new motherboard new processor

1190
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:27,239
you know have to get new RAM and with the problems that that one Factory had

1191
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:32,000
which made a lot of RAM like double in price and the fact that it's going to be

1192
01:25:29,440 --> 01:25:35,679
new type of RAM I think it's going to be actually a really significant part of

1193
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:40,000
the cost of moving to that P yeah we've seen that time and time again I mean uh

1194
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:44,040
that and the early growing pains with a new memory technology are terrible I

1195
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:50,000
mean I don't know if any of you guys watching Remember

1196
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:52,880
680i and ddr2 Holy balls you couldn't

1197
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:58,639
get four sticks of RAM running in that reference board unless you were like

1198
01:25:55,679 --> 01:26:02,159
blessed by the spirit of Gabe in like it just wasn't going to work and I mean it

1199
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:06,920
wasn't it wasn't like the other platforms were in any better shape and

1200
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:10,760
back when DDR3 first launched I remember like I was building Enthusiast grade

1201
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:17,320
systems for people at the time and I'd be like please buy

1202
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:18,800
ddr2 please buy ddr2 because you know

1203
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:22,800
it's cross oh wait no I'm thinking of ddr1 to ddr2 sorry sorry sorry sorry

1204
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:29,400
sorry sorry sorry back when that was happen I was like yeah please buy ddr1

1205
01:26:26,119 --> 01:26:31,520
because the ddr2 version of that board

1206
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:35,800
doesn't perform any better and it's a lot more expensive and yeah this is

1207
01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:41,080
super dumb because it's not stable at all uh DDR3 had a lot of problems at the

1208
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:44,760
beginning too so I'm worried about this I'm I'm worried about it for a few

1209
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:49,880
reasons the price thing um it working at all availability all that kind of stuff

1210
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:54,920
is it might be pretty mature by then so that's a thing maybe it'll have been

1211
01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:57,639
available for them to work on for like over a year by that point in time it's

1212
01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:02,239
just going to be it's going to be an interesting thing that because a lot of there's a lot of good coming with a

1213
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:06,199
processor a lot of people are stok for the processor but then there's a lot of

1214
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:10,320
not necessarily good coming from something else that I think people are

1215
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:13,520
not looking at as much as they maybe should be and I'm worried about people

1216
01:27:11,639 --> 01:27:18,239
that are going to adopt like immediately and jump right on it before anything

1217
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:22,400
real information gets out there and any like actual good stability testing and

1218
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:26,440
then get screwed because it it cost fair amount of money and then maybe they have

1219
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:30,679
this super unstable platform so NASA was using Oculus and a connect to control a

1220
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:37,760
robot ARM it's actually super cool and it kind

1221
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:39,119
of totally makes sense like it's it's

1222
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:42,719
one of the few NASA things that I haven't been like holy crap how did you

1223
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:47,960
think of that it's like oh yeah people have been pretty much doing

1224
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:54,520
that that makes sense now we're going to do it in space woo why is this not

1225
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:57,159
playing go oh thank you so they have

1226
01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:00,480
this like triple fingered robot ARM and it goes pretty one thing I noticed is it

1227
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,960
it doesn't seem to be like there's a little bit of latency here hold on we're

1228
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:11,280
going to pause and let you guys look at a we missed that go

1229
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,760
back we missed it there we go so head

1230
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:17,000
mounted display I think what they mean to say is

1231
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:21,400
Oculus motion tracker

1232
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:26,400
connect robotic ARM and I think what they mean is

1233
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,400
MF and robotic ARM

1234
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:34,119
so what's going on it's a touch pad there we

1235
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,760
go a check so you can see it's moving

1236
01:28:34,119 --> 01:28:40,880
with them but there seems to be slight delay well it's a connect so it's a

1237
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:45,639
giant pie yeah so old

1238
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:48,840
technology Xbox One connects for PC m is

1239
01:28:45,639 --> 01:28:48,840
probably pretty stoked for

1240
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:58,360
that yeah love the

1241
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:58,360
sticker a block man that's

1242
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:08,600
cool it seems to either it doesn't have a ton of strength in the fingers or it

1243
01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:13,960
like doesn't apply too much pressure automatically I hope because when he

1244
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,960
grabs he closes his fist right but he's

1245
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:23,080
probably just trying to get it to manage to register the motion yeah definitely

1246
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:25,840
definitely will not to very

1247
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:29,639
cool so actually I think this ties in pretty nicely with a couple of the other

1248
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,480
things so why don't we just go ahead and and run through all of these before we

1249
01:29:31,159 --> 01:29:36,920
start to talk about them does that make sense or do you want to do them one by one run through all of these yeah cuz

1250
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:40,679
there's the other ones with the camera mounted Oculus I guess that's kind of

1251
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:44,239
different okay well I don't know I don't know what else there's to say about this

1252
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:48,679
other than Microsoft can you please please stop treating platforms other

1253
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:52,119
than Xbox like second class citizens can we please have support on the PC for the

1254
01:29:50,639 --> 01:29:55,880
Xbox One controller not that I particularly think it's that great or

1255
01:29:53,800 --> 01:30:00,199
better than the Xbox 360 controller and can we please have connect 2 I don't

1256
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:05,440
even care about the Xbox One controller as long as they keep selling Xbox 360

1257
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:09,119
ones I just think it should work yeah no I agree I think that if you're going to

1258
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:14,159
come out and say yeah we value PC Gamers and PC gaming and then yeah you know the

1259
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:18,800
latest sort of thing we spent like you know years and years and all this money

1260
01:30:16,679 --> 01:30:22,560
developing only for our console customers it's kind of really weird yeah

1261
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:25,639
I don't like that at all ridiculous um where did those other ones

1262
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:30,960
go what are you talking about did we already talk about they're in the topic oh that's why I was confused as you were

1263
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:34,840
scrolling around you were highlighting them

1264
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:38,600
almost no okay what are you talking about I'm

1265
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:42,320
talking about the camera mounted thing yeah that's there that's that yes I

1266
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:47,600
thought they were separate somewhere else in the dog no because I found those

1267
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:50,440
while I was researching this one

1268
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:56,480
oh okay well at any rate here's some other cool videos if I could find the

1269
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:59,639
thing so the the the thing verse thingy

1270
01:30:56,480 --> 01:31:00,800
verse is the where the idea to C off

1271
01:30:59,639 --> 01:31:08,199
originated from so we should see that one first all right so let's check this one

1272
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:09,920
out so make MakerBot thingy verse has

1273
01:31:08,199 --> 01:31:13,239
this whole thing so you can mount a camera on the front of an Oculus Rift

1274
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:17,480
and if you scroll down a little bit and change what picture is displaying they

1275
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,600
actually show you like exactly how it kind of works and it's not super

1276
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:27,239
complicated and you're essentially able to 3D print this self which is really

1277
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:29,639
cool and the idea is that it can see

1278
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:36,280
outward yeah so there's a short video here where they demo it with

1279
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:38,719
um so you can use a camera to create a

1280
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:42,400
virtual environment around you that you can then interact with using the Oculus

1281
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:48,239
so because of the front mounted camera you actually have a much finer uh detail

1282
01:31:46,119 --> 01:31:51,800
in terms of what your hands are doing so you could use gestures you can pick

1283
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:55,199
things up and move them around like seeing in the demo video and that's

1284
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:59,719
pretty much all there is in this demo video things don't get like real crazy

1285
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:05,159
until the second one here so this was a guy who is using that 3D printed thing

1286
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:09,080
for his own little experiment so he 3D printed one and added a rubber band

1287
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:14,080
which is pretty simple pretty Innovative if you ask

1288
01:32:10,679 --> 01:32:16,440
me all right so here he's showing the

1289
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:20,560
setup okay so he got he got a USB battery pack to power the Oculus Rift

1290
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:25,360
box and then he has a USB extension for it to go to the computer and he has HDMI

1291
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:29,320
I believe as well yeah something like that okay let's not worry too much about that you guys can check out the video if

1292
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:35,760
you want as always we're going to post the uh the wow dock in the Forum thread

1293
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:39,960
so this is with um him just using a connect it's important to see him here

1294
01:32:38,119 --> 01:32:43,920
in the corner here actually I'm going to make this full screen so you guys can

1295
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:50,679
check it out there we go so there we go so he's crouching and able to look at

1296
01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:52,040
and under and interact with objects

1297
01:32:50,679 --> 01:32:56,199
because he's using the con connect for full body tracking again it's connect

1298
01:32:53,679 --> 01:33:00,960
one which is a steaming pile of poo and I wish that we had better stuff than

1299
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:06,600
that and then using Oculus and the camera in order to be able to interact

1300
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,760
with his hands as well as well mostly

1301
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:11,840
mostly the hands and just look around and stuff

1302
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:17,679
this is cool and and you could even in theory use it to build a full 3d

1303
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:21,239
environment if you have like the right other setup to go with it cuz think

1304
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:26,080
about how something like parad drone works it's kind of similar so it's got a

1305
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:30,760
camera it knows where it exists within space and it can see other AR Drones for

1306
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:35,880
like an augmented reality game can you imagine if we had a couple like battery

1307
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:40,360
powered Oculus and we could run around this house holding like plastic laser

1308
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:45,040
guns and like shoot at each other and the augmented reality could do things

1309
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:50,719
like okay here hold on hold on picture this in your mind okay if we could do

1310
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:53,639
things like you know um peek around a

1311
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:58,239
corner and like blast something and like the shards of the wall would fall away

1312
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:02,800
because if like okay if you could walk around the house and create the map

1313
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:06,600
first you could even have a destructible environment maybe if you could walk

1314
01:34:04,679 --> 01:34:10,679
around with a 3D camera and then like load it into something that you have

1315
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,400
like say you wore a backpack yes to do some type of processing and that's where

1316
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:18,239
the HDMI cable goes and then you could load a map which is mapped out of your

1317
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:21,760
environment and just like don't move things like don't be an idiot and don't

1318
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:25,400
move things we're not that far away from like really exciting augmented reality

1319
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:30,480
gaming anyway what like lus Media Group headquarters Counterstrike map I know I

1320
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:34,040
know anyway what he's doing right now is he's using hand gestures you can see

1321
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:38,920
it's not perfect at the moment by any stretch but he's using hand gestures to

1322
01:34:36,199 --> 01:34:43,440
do things like uh change the Sky Box to a different setting here I'm going to go

1323
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:50,400
ahead and try to exit full screen mode please register my keystrokes wow brutal

1324
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:53,440
hate the keyboard someone disliked this

1325
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:56,040
video what's wrong with people

1326
01:34:53,440 --> 01:35:01,639
yeah okay small interaction radius from the 3D camera where does he change the

1327
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:03,880
the Sky Box is it here uh it's his right

1328
01:35:01,639 --> 01:35:06,520
hand yeah I don't remember oh bollocks okay well whatever you guys can check

1329
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:13,040
out the video it's really cool it doesn't have a ton of views but is definitely worth a look I think we're

1330
01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:19,840
getting pretty close to the end um we have Aus talking about their Rog monitor

1331
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:24,760
well making a video about rough to say they released like any information at

1332
01:35:22,199 --> 01:35:31,639
all posted by assassin on the Forum this is pretty much it it's 30 seconds of

1333
01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:35,880
okay so hold on hold on 2 seconds of r

1334
01:35:31,639 --> 01:35:37,800
logo okay so that was about 8 Seconds of

1335
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:41,400
there's a g-sync chip or sumon video chip they haven't really clarified that

1336
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:44,400
in the video itself okay more Rog logo so that was about another two seconds of

1337
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:48,440
Rog logo there's some buttons yeah there was about 2 seconds of ID of the Monitor

1338
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:53,480
and then about another three and a half seconds of that then there's like a

1339
01:35:51,080 --> 01:36:00,880
couple seconds of a random robot then about another six seconds of more ASUS

1340
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:04,719
logo get excited get excited I am not

1341
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:09,320
excited because the problem is that Rog

1342
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:11,199
is gaming no compromises gaming and I'm

1343
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:15,480
willing to compromise some things about the gaming experience to make my overall

1344
01:36:13,159 --> 01:36:20,480
experience with a product better so the ultimate gaming keyboard might use

1345
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:22,440
cherrymx red key switches I don't care

1346
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:26,639
because cherrymx Reds are unpleasant for me to type on and I type I'm not a

1347
01:36:25,159 --> 01:36:32,600
professional gamer and changing from reds from Blues to Reds would not make

1348
01:36:29,639 --> 01:36:39,320
me in any noticeable way better yeah so there you go guys um I am really excited

1349
01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:41,119
to see what kind of 2 and a2k IPS

1350
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:45,080
monitors with g-sync we might see because that will be on my Christmas

1351
01:36:43,159 --> 01:36:49,800
wish list for next year and we don't know this is going to be expensive um we

1352
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:55,080
don't know what this is but I'm guessing it's probably 1080 P

1353
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:58,320
144 guess that's probably what it is I think competition is going to drive

1354
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:03,280
pricing down on g-sync faster than most people do I think that it's not going to

1355
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,880
sell well until it reaches reasonably

1356
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:11,800
close to price parody with other monitors and then it'll take off it

1357
01:37:07,239 --> 01:37:13,560
can't be like $170 more than a $270

1358
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:16,280
which is ludicrous it's way too expensive right now but the thing about

1359
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:20,400
it being way too expensive right now is that it doesn't even really exist yet

1360
01:37:18,119 --> 01:37:24,440
yeah I mean people are paying an early adopter tax especially like when there's

1361
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,480
one store that has it yes and they have it early like you're you're paying extra

1362
01:37:26,119 --> 01:37:33,840
because that store has it you're paying everyone extra for that

1363
01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:36,040
yeah all right the big one yeah I posted

1364
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:41,360
this on Facebook earlier this week and people seemed to seemed to be pretty

1365
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:46,599
upset I mean the fact of the matter is I never bought order of War NE so I don't

1366
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:50,639
care about it for that this is this is a specific version I think you can still

1367
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:55,080
get a different order of War on Steam actually if I remember remember

1368
01:37:51,480 --> 01:37:57,880
correctly um but this is order of War

1369
01:37:55,080 --> 01:38:03,040
something yeah sure anyway it's like a yeah V it doesn't exist anymore so I

1370
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:07,760
guess it doesn't matter

1371
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:11,840
hey oh man so valve actually removed

1372
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:13,639
order of war from users steam libraries

1373
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:19,040
order of War challenge order of War challenge thank you now there are a

1374
01:38:16,599 --> 01:38:21,840
couple of reasons for it actually do here do you want to do you want to

1375
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:25,800
handle this one so ESS yeah and it looks like you can still get

1376
01:38:23,639 --> 01:38:29,159
actual just order of War for eight bucks on Steam it's still I think that one's

1377
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:33,320
still available but if you go to the steam page for order of War challenge

1378
01:38:31,159 --> 01:38:37,880
it's like gone and there's just discussions of people going like how do

1379
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:43,760
I get a refund um so essentially what happened

1380
01:38:40,679 --> 01:38:45,440
is square Unix shut down the public

1381
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:50,000
servers because there wasn't that many people playing the game there were still people playing the game just not a ton

1382
01:38:48,159 --> 01:38:54,080
of traffic and it was costing them more to run the server

1383
01:38:52,440 --> 01:38:56,880
than it should have I guess because there wasn't enough people playing the

1384
01:38:55,440 --> 01:39:01,960
game it's not a subscription game I wouldn't think you'd need that many servers if there's nobody playing it and

1385
01:38:59,639 --> 01:39:06,119
hopefully virtualize it so it can change and like use a certain percentage anyway

1386
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:10,040
because that's what modern people do um but anyways they closed down the servers

1387
01:39:07,639 --> 01:39:14,920
because of that and it was an online only DRM based game so if you shut down

1388
01:39:12,679 --> 01:39:19,280
the servers there's nothing for your DRM game to connect to and you can't play it

1389
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:26,000
so it's unplayable and was therefore removed from Steam

1390
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:29,840
what a problem I mean valve has said

1391
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:32,639
about their own titles that if they ever

1392
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:39,440
delete steam or something they will make the games available in a DRM free form

1393
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:41,520
to anyone who bought them yep however

1394
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:45,599
valve doesn't control what the other game developers who list their games on

1395
01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:52,119
Steam do exactly and with valve terms of service and I I I don't like it but cons

1396
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:55,800
H yeah anyways with terms of service you're you're you're leasing things you

1397
01:39:53,719 --> 01:40:02,520
don't own them yeah when you when you buy software whether it's a dis or

1398
01:39:58,679 --> 01:40:07,280
whether it's a digital copy in in every

1399
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:09,159
Ula you are buying a license to use it

1400
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:13,040
yeah you are not buying it you do not own it there's certain free DRM free

1401
01:40:11,599 --> 01:40:19,040
games where you can launch it no matter what but when when you're leasing a game

1402
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:22,719
that has a a DRM that doesn't make it so you can launch it no matter what and I'm

1403
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:26,119
not talking about open source obviously but I'm talking about there's

1404
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:30,119
a few other things yeah there's a few other things there's freeware and open

1405
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:33,480
source and shareware and like there's a lot of different types of things but

1406
01:40:31,639 --> 01:40:38,639
when we're talking about games typically none of that applies you are buying a

1407
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:41,320
license to use it um yeah

1408
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:45,599
so it's it's just kind of gross because there's actually a lot of games right

1409
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:49,719
now that have online online only DRM meaning that this is going to actually

1410
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:54,960
happen quite a bit eventually because we've and you you can't be like oh well

1411
01:40:52,360 --> 01:41:00,480
my steam Library looks the same as it did seven years ago um yeah this whole

1412
01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:04,560
online only DRM thing hasn't really been a thing that whole time it's more recent

1413
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:08,719
so we're actually going to see The Fallout of this in the future not now

1414
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,760
we're starting to see it and the author of the hexus article brought up a really

1415
01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:16,199
interesting point what is my steam Library going to look like in 10 years

1416
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:21,159
because Square Enix might not be the most customer friendly company but there

1417
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:26,360
are plenty of other not that customer companies out there that might go ah you

1418
01:41:24,719 --> 01:41:33,080
know what it's too much work to keep the server up it's too much work to send out

1419
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:36,040
a new patch that makes it DRM free so

1420
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:40,880
whatever and like uh I believe war gaming is attached to this and if you

1421
01:41:38,199 --> 01:41:44,719
look at it uh World of Tanks if they shut down the servers all

1422
01:41:43,480 --> 01:41:50,040
of that money that you've poured into the game is gone whether it was on tanks

1423
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:54,599
or whether it was on whatever anything that's not expendable like

1424
01:41:52,480 --> 01:41:57,520
ammunition you you see it right now as a permanent thing but if they shut down

1425
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:01,119
the service at some point it's gone and that's how that's going to work a lot I

1426
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:05,840
mean with with the way that most mainstream Gamers move from one game to

1427
01:42:03,719 --> 01:42:09,480
the next game it won't matter too much it won't matter to too many people and I

1428
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:15,560
think that's why they did this for this particular title I think if it had been

1429
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:17,159
Starcraft 1 where blizzard was like okay

1430
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:22,920
we're shutting down the Battlenet servers so um you know pack up your CDs

1431
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:26,679
and mail them to us you we're no longer licensing this software like that would

1432
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:30,159
have caused outrage but since it's a game that very few people were actually

1433
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:33,599
playing I suspect most of the people asking for refunds were probably people

1434
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:36,800
who weren't playing the game anyway and they're just trying to get money back and they're just trying to get some

1435
01:42:35,239 --> 01:42:39,880
money out of it yep I actually think that's probably the exact same thing

1436
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:43,679
although there is going to be that group of people that were probably a fairly

1437
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:48,119
hardcore Community because reading up on this game I never bought it apparently

1438
01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:52,560
was not super Noob friendly apparently it was actually kind of hard so a lot of

1439
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:56,159
people didn't really play it a ton because of that because it's not a super

1440
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:59,800
popular game and it's really difficult right so there was a few as far as I can

1441
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:05,920
tell again I never owned it so I don't really know as far as I can tell there was a smaller community of

1442
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:09,159
hardcores it's I don't know it's interesting and it's going to become

1443
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:14,159
more and more of a problem so a lot of people have been blaming everyone and

1444
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:18,760
everything that they possibly can um but it brings up the question whose fault is

1445
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:20,800
this and Square Enix yeah Square Enix a

1446
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:25,880
lot of people have been slapping Steam for this what a lot of people have been

1447
01:43:22,719 --> 01:43:29,080
slapping Steam for this okay you people

1448
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:30,360
you're wrong if you if you look at I

1449
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:34,119
I've got a few links in here which will be publishing the doc later if you look

1450
01:43:32,440 --> 01:43:38,000
at the store Page you can see tons of people complaining if you look elsewhere

1451
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:43,119
even on the Storm page there have been people complaining to steam and getting

1452
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:45,320
refunds from Steam and if you look at

1453
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:50,320
the community message that steam pushed out it says directly uh where where's

1454
01:43:48,599 --> 01:43:55,400
the community message that's the store news news link that I posted in there if

1455
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:57,920
you look there it's orders um product

1456
01:43:55,400 --> 01:44:04,080
update by Valve orders order of War challenge servers shut down the first

1457
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:06,520
line message from Square Enix and then a

1458
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,840
huge link about how oh we're sorry and it's unfortunate and we know there's

1459
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:14,080
people that still play the game but we're shutting it down because it's not profitable anymore blah blah blah blah

1460
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:17,199
blah blah blah here's a link to complain and people are complaining to steam and

1461
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:21,520
trying to get refunds from Steam so I kind of actually feel bad for steam I'm

1462
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:26,159
not defending them to the end of the Earth because they are steam is DRM and

1463
01:44:23,719 --> 01:44:29,320
itself blah blah blah blah blah um but I just kind of accept it because steam's

1464
01:44:28,119 --> 01:44:33,239
actually pretty good with their own stuff valve valve or valve sorry valve

1465
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,679
is actually pretty good with their own stuff which is really cool and if you're

1466
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:41,599
freaked out there are other options that still interface with steam because you can go to something like the Humble

1467
01:44:39,639 --> 01:44:46,639
Bundle store and if you look on the Humble Bundle store I think literally

1468
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:51,280
everything is steam compatible and then if you look even closer there's games

1469
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:55,560
that'll have DRM free boxes on there so if you buy it there you get a steam key

1470
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:59,520
and you get a DRM free download yeah so things like and not even just like

1471
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:04,320
crappy games like trying to for example trying to DRM free download Rogue Legacy

1472
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:09,440
which while I believe it's Indie I don't actually remember off the top of my head

1473
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:12,320
um but still huge game DRM fre like

1474
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:15,639
there's there's yeah so there's options out there and you can still use steam if

1475
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,560
you still like that platform also if you're can use something like Gog gaming

1476
01:45:17,159 --> 01:45:26,320
or whatever you can do that whole steam add to game list thing which works

1477
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:28,159
really really well and it's completely

1478
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:33,520
fine and steam's not going to take that away from you because that not take the

1479
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:38,679
Lord gan's name in vain or any of his my bad trademarks that he owns yeah so like

1480
01:45:35,599 --> 01:45:41,360
I don't know I would it's a sin stop

1481
01:45:38,679 --> 01:45:46,400
the stop the steam hate because it's not their fault yeah um their policies

1482
01:45:44,639 --> 01:45:51,239
allowed it to happen but it Happ it would have happened anyway and it happened with a game that you probably

1483
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:55,280
knew was online only Dr so it would have happened anyway and you wouldn't have

1484
01:45:53,560 --> 01:46:00,239
been able to use the game with steam all this time well you could have done the

1485
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:05,159
added thing right that actually that even works with uh NVIDIA game stream I

1486
01:46:02,719 --> 01:46:08,840
was playing Alice madness Returns and even though I have a disc copy that's

1487
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:14,119
not a steam key and I was like I was installing it and I was like what is

1488
01:46:10,679 --> 01:46:16,119
this Stone Age Technology I it was the

1489
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:21,639
first time I'd used my optical drive like last calendar year I don't have one

1490
01:46:18,599 --> 01:46:24,320
basically an entire year but I it and it

1491
01:46:21,639 --> 01:46:28,520
took forever too I was like what this is stupid anyway so I installed the game

1492
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:32,800
and I just added it and then game stream work just like that so that's really

1493
01:46:29,719 --> 01:46:35,239
cool even though it's not um a GeForce

1494
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:38,360
experience title and it wasn't properly fully integrated with steam right anyway

1495
01:46:37,199 --> 01:46:44,239
I think that's pretty much it for the show guys uh do you want to talk about changes to build blogs of the week so uh

1496
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:47,639
last week in the Afterparty we did a massive poll and try to get everyone to

1497
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:51,199
get ideas together and I posted a sticky in the build log section which was

1498
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:54,000
basically asking like what the heck do you guys want to do with build logs

1499
01:46:52,440 --> 01:46:56,920
because it's not going to work this way and I really want to keep it going

1500
01:46:55,480 --> 01:47:01,159
because you guys care and we care and all that kind of stuff um but it's

1501
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:05,000
become unfeasible with the size of the Forum now and how fast everything goes

1502
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:08,320
for us to actually see every build log that's coming in and it's becoming

1503
01:47:06,639 --> 01:47:13,719
really really difficult to sort through the ones that have been actually finished this week that's been really

1504
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:17,239
hard because we see people posting this week and I can see that Tim stamp but

1505
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:20,920
it's really hard to and people are commenting on ones this week that have

1506
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:27,239
been done a long time AG and it's been really hard to actually track which ones are specifically done this week um so

1507
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:31,960
we've come up with a conclusion which is going to take a bit of work from uh Mr

1508
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:36,920
Wizard and myself probably mainly Mr Wizard because it's kind of crazy and

1509
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:41,040
confusing um but it is coming it is not here yet though um so yeah we don't have

1510
01:47:39,639 --> 01:47:45,320
build logs of the week this week that's a really high number but it's yeah it's

1511
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:49,280
coming and it's going to be actually pretty cool and the build logs forum is

1512
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:53,440
not going to work is probably not going to work exactly the the same as how the

1513
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:56,679
rest of the Forum works okay cuz it's going to work on this interesting we're

1514
01:47:55,159 --> 01:48:01,040
we're trying to see how this will work but it's going to work on an interesting

1515
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sorting system where you can see what has been finished and what is in

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progress based on forced tags that everyone has to implement and use and

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change and stuff and that'll help us with some new Forum features or site

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features that are potentially coming in the future as well yeah there's like there's a bunch of changes coming to

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build logs huge changes coming to build logs so yeah the the build logs of the

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week changes thread I I guess I can just lock now I hadn't locked it yet because

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we knew we weren't going to be able to implement the ideas immediately so I was

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I had an original end date of Wednesday I just kind of let it spill forward um

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but we kind of we kind of know what we're doing now um if that idea doesn't

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work there's a few other ideas that we're going to try we've been in business for a year and that's the

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conclusion we kind of know what we're doing now kind of kind of not entirely

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sure if it'll work but yeah there's a bunch of ideas and there's a bunch of fallback ideas and we're good with that

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now so thank you everyone for your contribution of ideas IDE and that's

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about it no billogs for this week but they will be coming as soon as

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possible no confirmed date I'm going to pull an EA on this one thank you guys so

1530
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thank you guys so much for watching the show today um I'm sorry we didn't have a

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special guest for you guys but you know what hit me up on Twitter and let me

1532
01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:14,719
know if you would like us to do maybe every other week with a guest as opposed

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to having a guest all the time or you know I mean we we love taking your

1534
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feedback and shows are something that we are going to be focusing on in4

1535
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:27,560
I actually had some people asking me what the plan is for lus Media Group for

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2014 um I still want to do a Daily Show I'm not sure if it's going to stick

1537
01:49:28,719 --> 01:49:34,520
anymore so there's that developers developers developers devel no no no

1538
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:38,840
we're we're not hiring more developers we are we are going to try to hire one

1539
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:43,440
to two more people so uh that's going to be one of the things for this year um we

1540
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:50,480
are going to continue to focus on improving our production values so uh at

1541
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:52,360
some point I will get that that that

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thing going where I ask you guys to help me buy a bunch of equipment because we

1543
01:49:54,400 --> 01:50:00,080
we are going to need it um especially if we want to build better sets for our

1544
01:49:58,159 --> 01:50:03,760
shows like I hate this this is stupid it's boxes behind us look I love how a

1545
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:08,760
lot of them are on like angles and some of them are actually the side of the Box

1546
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not like this is this is the width of that box I know we we need like we need

1547
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:15,520
proper set pieces we need to be able to like paint the W I mean part of the

1548
01:50:14,119 --> 01:50:19,239
reason there are boxes back there is because all the walls in this place are

1549
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:23,840
horrible colors we need to do some painting so um so that's that's another

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thing that we're going to be doing um and I think there was one other thing

1551
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:32,360
that I oh yeah and we are going to continue to develop the website as a

1552
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:35,560
community site as opposed to just a forum but don't worry the Forum will

1553
01:50:33,719 --> 01:50:40,119
still be awesome so there you guys have it thank you for watching The W show

1554
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today we will see you guys in two weeks no W show next week we will be at CES

1555
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:49,719
last last week you tease people saying that there might be a w show oh where at

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C yes if we can find a way to do it I don't know I don't think we'll be able

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to but I mean if we we could try here let me fire up I have your calendar on

1558
01:50:55,800 --> 01:51:01,599
my calendar right uh yeah if not I can

1559
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:06,800
load up mine right now just in case you should have mine you should be able to

1560
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:09,679
just turn it on yeah it's on in theory I

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01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:15,280
don't have anything in that spot me neither we'll see maybe if we did a

1562
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:17,280
later one okay so stay tuned on Twitter

1563
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:20,880
adline Tech on we don't know but we'll try or follow on Facebook I have more

1564
01:51:19,119 --> 01:51:26,599
Facebook likes than Twitter followers now I think um isn't that crazy is the

1565
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:28,599
Forum getting close to your Twitter yes

1566
01:51:26,599 --> 01:51:34,040
yeah yeah Twitter has actually really slowed down in terms of growth like the

1567
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:38,679
the community aspect of Linus Tech tips.com of Facebook and even Google

1568
01:51:36,639 --> 01:51:46,159
Plus is closing in pretty fast I think I have like 22,000 plus ones whatever those are on

1569
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:49,119
Google Plus likes are they likes I think

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01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:53,320
I don't know man what whatever it is like it's it's Twitter I like because

1571
01:51:51,639 --> 01:51:57,520
it's really easy to interact with people oneon-one whereas even on Facebook like

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01:51:55,840 --> 01:52:01,119
the way that conversations are handled is terrible on YouTube the way that

1573
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:04,400
comments are handled is still terrible half the people will ask me a question

1574
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:09,840
and there's no reply button because they don't have their accounts merged or whatever else I'm just like hey man I

1575
01:52:07,639 --> 01:52:13,960
actually saw your comment I was poised to reply to you I couldn't because

1576
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:17,760
there's no reply button um I hate Twitter almost every single time if I'm

1577
01:52:16,119 --> 01:52:22,480
going to respond to someone there's no way that character count is enough yeah

1578
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:26,840
that's unless I'm just like go to the Forum which usually I would like to

1579
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:30,199
actually answer someone because if I'm sitting at a computer I'm not live in

1580
01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:33,360
the show and I can take way longer to explain what I'm talking about and I've

1581
01:52:32,079 --> 01:52:38,119
had a few people where I'm just like dude just PM me and he's ended up pming

1582
01:52:36,599 --> 01:52:42,079
me and then I can write my short essays about it but like oh and you probably

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drove a forum sign up at the same time woohoo yay all right peace out guys bye