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our last hackintosh video an attempt to build the fastest mac in the world using

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virtualization to simplify the hackintosh process was a huge success

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except for the awkward timing where it ended up coming out the very day that

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apple finally announced their new mac

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pro which turned out to be faster than ours

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but we're not beat yet ladies and gentlemen

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hello yeah it's time

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so our goal now is to go bare metal hackintosh on the

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same 28 core CPU that we used last time

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water cool it and overclock it before

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apple releases their new mac pro to the

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public which gives us

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what uh three months or so well considering that apple's had six

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years to work on theirs i'd say we've got a lot of work to do

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i'm here all right

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just the usual reminder we are not endorsing the use of macOS on anything

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other than a mac in any way

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no especially in a commercial environment if you want to run mac at

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work buy mac oh yeah that in that case it is much better to buy a mac because

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then you actually get support in order to build a hackintosh that can compete

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with the new mac pro we're going to need to do a few things in preparation

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first and foremost we need a motherboard that is comparable in terms of expansion

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to the one that apple is shipping in their new cheese grater and also one

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that is likely to be compatible with macOS

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unfortunately that means that our ASUS dominus board with its mere four pci

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express 16x slots is out we turned

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instead to Gigabyte c621 aorus extreme they refer to this thing

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as monster gaming motherboard and i think

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they're pretty close to the mark it's rocking seven pci express slots for

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expansion and 12 ddr4 dimm slots this

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should give us plenty of room to maneuver and if we decide to liquid cool

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our GPU setup it'll actually potentially

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give us even more internal expansion

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than apple's big passive GPU coolers

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will allow one area where we will be making

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compromises though is external expansion

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our board does have a header to install a titan rich Thunderbolt 3 card right

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around here and if we were in so inclined we could

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pass through a displayport signal from our GPU for the full mac experience but

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we're limited to just two of those right instead of what is it six or something

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like that yeah there's like two on the front and like four on the back

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another difference for us is our gpus so

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we are stuck with the Radeon 7 the fastest available card that is still

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compatible with the latest version of macOS mojave

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we intend to install more than one of these but

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guys we're still kind of in the proof of concept phase here so we're gonna grab

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one or two more when the time comes is this the slot you wanted for it this one

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right here perfect next up is the memory now our CPU falls

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well short of the up to 1.5 terabytes of

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memory supported on the new mac pro but

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it still does pretty well up to 512 gigs

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and we want to have a pretty rocking config for it but for today

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well we're just validating so we slotted in six sticks of ddr4 3200 trident z RGB

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modules from g skill that's more than enough for the test that we're going to

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throw at it while also actually being a fair bit faster than what apple will be

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shipping for the final build the plan is

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384 gigs of the fastest 32 gig modules

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that we can get our hands on yeah fully deck it out finally for our CPU we've

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got the xeon w 3175x from a previous

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video but this time we're not allocating cores to our host os or dealing with

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virtualization overhead because we're going to boot macOS directly

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to cool this thing well we've got some plans for something really crazy that

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might take a little bit of engineering know-how from alex

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but for now we've gone with the Noctua nhu14s on top of the motherboard box

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which is fine for a case right i mean we

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didn't really have much of a choice actually it's uh the the board is physically too large

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for any of the test benches that we have here at the office

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okay so enough preamble are we ready to do it i think we're

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ready okay hopefully i didn't break off the SATA connector when i uh

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that would be bad yeah punch it chewy

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theoretically this just works and it just goes right to macOS right yeah

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all right uh-oh uh-oh cloverboot manager oh oh

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i think this is fine it was supposed to boot up did you hit the keyboard by any

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chance no okay

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well you do you don't trust me you need brandon to validate it

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uh okay so that's it i'm i'm a mac bare

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metal okay so if you guys are wondering how we got

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this done guys this is not a tutorial but maybe walk them through some of the

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steps that we had to go through yeah again not a tutorial but i found that

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using our previous vm based clover install as a baseline Gigabyte's

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hardware and firmware here actually basically was compatible with macOS out

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of the box now i did have to install using usb 2.0

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and i had to grab fake smc to get past some acpi errors while booting the

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installer but once we got it on there everything basically just worked

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now everything needs a bit of an asterisk imessage and facetime do not

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currently work on our hacc pro but we

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intend to solve that one way or another before the conclusion

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all right well do you want to see us in a bit of friendship yeah i want to see a cinematic question is that

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let's do it i think last time we cracked 10 000

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how high do you think it'll go now i would expect it to be at least a touch

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higher because we're ditching the virtualization overhead

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and we got a couple more cores because we don't have to leave anything for our

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host os yeah so four extra threads okay so we got eleven thousand four

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hundred thirty nine yeah we're looking at results that are about five percent

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faster in the multi-threaded test and nearly twenty percent faster single

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threaded so as much as we love virtualization we

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were actually leaving a fair bit of performance on the table yeah well why

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don't we fire up geekbench next let's do it

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well that number looks a lot higher than last time that's nearly 80 000. yes

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multicore we're at about 23 higher in

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single threaded and nearly nine percent higher in multi-core like it's a big

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difference overall in CPU curiously though our opencl and metal

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scores don't look like they gained quite as much

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so why don't we do luxmark next and see what that's looking like okay so now

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we've got a pattern here it looks like in our GPU bound tests our

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virtualization overhead wasn't hurting us nearly as much as it was in the CPU

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bound tests fascinating so now we want to hit it with some

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non-synthetic CPU tests um where do you want to start let's go with blender

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blender sounds good wow

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that's a lot of threads there it is

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so 116. we saved a couple of seconds on the bmw

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test but more impressively we saved nearly half a minute on the classroom

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i think this is the fastest we've ever seen a mac run these tests

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and i did the mozilla firefox compile test off camera and it went 40

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faster wow it literally only took 9 minutes

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that's crazy i think the only test left to run from

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last time are then final cut pro and hand brake good

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so let's fire up final cut so this looks promising

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did we save sorry three minutes on our final cut

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protest yeah and nearly half a minute on handbrake

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too which is actually really impressive when you consider that it took under six

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minutes to begin with wow

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all right so how about them apples then now

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keep in mind guys that this is actually

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above the level of performance that we would expect out of the new mac pro for

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these workloads because while the xeon w

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3275 that apple's using on the high end

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has a slightly higher single core boost clock it also has a much lower base

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clock and a more conservative TDP with

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the same core and cache layout as our xeon w 31 75

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oh and uh don't forget that these tests were all done at stock clocks too

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our CPU only ever got to 80 degrees under blender while we boosted a 3.8

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gigahertz all day long if apple's mac pro stops boosting

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basically at all they lose on everything but memory capacity

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so actually this is looking like a really good start to the project um

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it would appear that knocking on all the wood i can find well

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i don't know if anything yeah okay it would appear that nothing's going to prevent us from seeing it through to the

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end with that said it's going to take some time because if

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we're going to do this thing right we need to go all the way

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i want a custom monoblock for this board as much of the fastest RAM we can muster

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at least one more Radeon 7 an all core

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overclock of 4 gigahertz minimum i expect it to be damn near silent and

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i want it all in a cheese grater stay tuned guys

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because success or failure this is going to be

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