WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.319 this case is unbelievable the holes they're not tapped there's no 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:10.320 threads there's no way to screw into them 00:00:08.559 --> 00:00:14.320 compared to last generation the current crop of consoles from sony and microsoft 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:20.960 boast pretty good performance for anywhere from 300 to 500 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:24.080 but everyone knows the pc is king right 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:28.000 to prove it we set out to build a gaming 00:00:24.080 --> 00:00:30.400 pc for 500 bucks that can beat the xbox 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:35.680 series x and put those console peasants in their place but Linus you might say 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:39.280 that's illegal well so is this segue to my sponsor are 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:43.760 you worried someone else is using your wi-fi glasswire can alert you anytime a 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:48.800 new device joins just use offer code Linus to get 25 off glassware at the 00:00:46.160 --> 00:00:48.800 link below 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:02.320 spoiler alert this build did not go as planned building a competent gaming rig 00:01:01.199 --> 00:01:06.960 for 500 that's a piece of cake building one that 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:11.840 can match the up to 4k 120 hertz performance of the series x 00:01:08.880 --> 00:01:15.439 that is no small task and by the end of this video you are going to see why 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:19.040 because remember guys unless you can also work a controller 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:25.360 into the price you didn't match it so 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:27.600 here is what we came up with 00:01:25.360 --> 00:01:33.439 in spite of being remanufactured that is to say that this motherboard is brand 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:35.200 new but the chipset on it is secondhand 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:41.759 and salvaged from another motherboard this x99 board looks at least on paper 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:43.360 like an absolutely outstanding value it 00:01:41.759 --> 00:01:48.799 was one of the cheapest that we could find at just 62 dollars from aliexpress 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:54.640 which is amazing considering that we get NVMe support with an m.2 slot for 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:58.000 storage and another slot for wi-fi and 00:01:54.640 --> 00:02:00.240 compatibility with older Intel xeon cpus 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:04.719 that can be found super affordably on the used market and that's exactly what 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:09.520 we paired it with meet the xeon e5 2667 00:02:08.160 --> 00:02:13.040 v3 these puppies are coming to the point in 00:02:11.440 --> 00:02:17.520 their life cycle where data center admins are phasing them out in favor of 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:22.080 newer more power efficient chips so there's an abundance of these on ebay 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:27.599 which means supply and demand baby you can get them for as little as 69 00:02:25.760 --> 00:02:32.800 nice now it may not be the fastest anymore having 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:38.239 been originally released in late 2014 but eight cores with a base clock of 3.2 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:41.440 gigahertz boosting up to 3.6 is nothing to scoff at either 00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:48.400 as long as you get the right thing in the mail unfortunately we didn't upon arrival we 00:02:45.760 --> 00:02:52.239 found that the seller sent us a v4 chip instead of a v3 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:56.480 good news right well not so much 00:02:54.400 --> 00:03:00.959 the small bump to the cache size and the more advanced manufacturing process 00:02:58.640 --> 00:03:04.800 would have both been welcome upgrades and as far as we could tell from the 00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:07.200 motherboard listing it should have been fine but 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:13.120 should is at the very top of my list of famous 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:19.840 last words while the listing claimed compatibility despite the best efforts 00:03:15.519 --> 00:03:21.920 of me colin and Anthony we could not get 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:26.159 this combo to boot and after proving that both the chip and 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:30.640 the motherboard worked separate from each other and chasing down any hope of 00:03:28.799 --> 00:03:36.640 a BIOS update we were left with no option but to replace one half of this 00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:37.519 obviously incompatible pair 00:03:36.640 --> 00:03:42.319 so our second motherboard from aliexpress 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:47.280 even had a hacky BIOS that unlocked overclocking just one problem 00:03:45.040 --> 00:03:50.319 it also didn't work that's the wrong box well 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:55.040 at that point we couldn't just keep kicking the proverbial can down the road 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:59.040 so to move along we grabbed a compatible CPU from our warehouse that is 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:04.480 close-ish in performance this is an Intel core i7 00:04:01.720 --> 00:04:10.480 6900k and i know i know it's a better chip than the e5 and it 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:12.319 comes at a higher price tag around 130 00:04:10.480 --> 00:04:16.400 we'll just have to keep that in mind when we draw our conclusions 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:23.759 sticking to our budget as best we could we shoved in a single 16 gig dim of 00:04:18.479 --> 00:04:26.479 samsung ddr4 2133 ecc RAM which at 32 on 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:32.400 ebay is darn near as much memory as we could cram into this thing for the price 00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:34.960 that brings us to 235 dollars with the 00:04:32.400 --> 00:04:39.199 substitute CPU on board that is half of our budget and we haven't even gotten to 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:45.199 the graphics card yet we ended up snagging this used Gigabyte 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:47.600 GeForce gtx 1070 on ebay for 200 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:52.080 a hefty chunk of the budget not to mention that it looks like it was either 00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:57.520 run in a mining operation or extremely poor air quality in their house which 00:04:54.080 --> 00:04:58.639 left us with 64. for the case 00:04:57.520 --> 00:05:04.160 storage power supply and uh a game controller 00:05:02.400 --> 00:05:09.240 the cheapest case we could find was this rosewill fbmx1 for 29.99 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:14.639 now we could have done a cardboard box build and with the build quality of this 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:18.639 thing maybe we should have this case is unbelievable 00:05:15.840 --> 00:05:22.639 the holes they're not tapped there's no threads 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:25.280 there's no way to screw into them but 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:31.280 this motherboard honestly from my point of view is kind of a fire hazard so 00:05:28.479 --> 00:05:36.400 we stuck with the uh metal case we grabbed this chintzy air cooler for 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:41.080 28 bucks i don't have a ton of hope for this thing but 00:05:37.919 --> 00:05:45.039 we'll see i guess and an adata 00:05:41.080 --> 00:05:47.759 su-365 SSD it's only 240 gigs but that's 00:05:45.039 --> 00:05:52.639 all we could afford at 43 finally we went with an evga non-modular 00:05:50.400 --> 00:05:56.319 400 watt power supply so that power rating is cutting it pretty 00:05:54.800 --> 00:06:00.560 close here but as i've said before and i'll say again 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:04.560 you're better off with a decent quality power supply at a lower wattage rating 00:06:03.039 --> 00:06:08.319 than one that's rated for a thousand watts but it's 20 bucks because that 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:12.560 one's gonna blow up that set us back forty dollars 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:16.960 leading us into our controller yes my friends 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:21.840 this ebay special xbox 360 controller 00:06:16.960 --> 00:06:25.280 rip off can be yours for just 18.50 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:26.960 personally i like the color even if the 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:32.479 quality of the switches isn't quite up to the original 00:06:29.440 --> 00:06:32.479 that leaves us with 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:40.080 uh excuse me negative money kind of though 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:45.680 the build we intended to create comes in at 507.57 00:06:42.880 --> 00:06:51.280 which if we could find a heat sink and or a case in a scrap heap would sneak in 00:06:48.880 --> 00:06:54.680 at under 500 as for what i actually have in front of 00:06:52.960 --> 00:06:58.000 me it's more like 580 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:04.639 but hey that is a minor price to pay to be the 00:07:01.039 --> 00:07:07.680 proud owner of this piece of fine pc 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:10.080 master race gaming machinery so it's 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:17.440 time to game head to head against the xbox series x and see how we did 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:20.400 i told colin i was like i trust you i 00:07:17.440 --> 00:07:24.880 believe you really but are you sure this memory and CPU is going to work together 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:30.000 core i7 6900k this is a 16 gig stick of ecc RAM core 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:34.639 i7s are not supposed to have a memory controller on them that is capable of 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:39.120 addressing registered memory that's registered ecc let it be known i just 00:07:37.039 --> 00:07:43.280 proved Linus wrong this is actually a surprisingly 00:07:40.960 --> 00:07:46.720 robust BIOS like it's kind of got everything you would want in here 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:51.039 i can't remember if this is if this is the one i updated i think this might be 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:55.120 the one that i updated from like a weird russian github 00:07:52.720 --> 00:08:00.479 uh task manager thinks this motherboard has 16 memory slots 00:07:58.400 --> 00:08:04.240 four was actually the correct number minor details 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:09.840 i mean all the CPU cores are showing up and everything though there you go eight cores with hyper threading immediately 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:16.080 our hardware begins to show its age while we can run at 4k 60 hertz this tv 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:20.879 and actually the xbox series x for that matter are both capable of 4k 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:25.599 120 hertz so that is a bit of a compromise not that 00:08:23.840 --> 00:08:30.720 i'm too concerned about a what is it a 1070 yeah being able to run 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:33.680 at 4k 120 hertz really anyway should we start with something lighter 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:37.120 yeah rocket league let's do it give it a fighting chance 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:41.039 hey what what are you being are you being all defeatist right now that's my 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:45.839 job i'm giving you a fighting chance it's a pc 00:08:42.800 --> 00:08:49.279 it's a pc master race it's a 1070. 00:08:45.839 --> 00:08:54.040 this this joystick is not good 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:54.040 just like doesn't register look at that 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.800 there he goes all right sure 00:08:59.920 --> 00:09:05.040 um and i'm done bud 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:08.880 wow rip okay well the good news is i'm 00:09:06.880 --> 00:09:13.200 getting 130 frames per second and it looks great uh i don't know how to play 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:18.000 this game i am getting absolutely destroyed by 00:09:16.560 --> 00:09:23.760 bots right now whatever the game's running great let's 00:09:19.920 --> 00:09:26.080 flip over to the xbox you know what 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:30.800 i think it is fair to say that it actually does look marginally 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.800 better on the pc 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:40.160 i have a feeling this one's going to be rough do maternal at 4k 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:42.560 runs pretty nice on the xbox series x 00:09:40.160 --> 00:09:48.080 we're running at 62 FPS at 4k at 4k 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:53.680 ultra that's not terrible it's not a bad gaming experience well not at all well 00:09:51.760 --> 00:09:57.839 that was like in a menu let's let's see when you get something well yeah yeah 00:09:55.760 --> 00:10:02.079 yeah it's in the menu yeah it's a photo 00:09:59.680 --> 00:10:06.640 okay to be clear guys we are aware of the deeper blacks on the xbox we think 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:11.279 it has to do with the capture card pass through not detecting full versus 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:15.120 limited range properly so we're not holding that against either of them 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:22.800 our SSD is not as fast colin 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:26.720 not even close not to mention that it's a quarter of the capacity 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:30.880 this controller feels so cheap and crappy 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:36.320 by comparison it weighs like nothing oh not to mention 00:10:33.680 --> 00:10:36.320 that it's wired 00:10:37.920 --> 00:10:43.920 look okay we acknowledge there are a handful of 00:10:41.760 --> 00:10:48.640 ways that our system is not as perfect 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:51.680 the game's running really well though 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:52.959 62 FPS we're like pretty much locked 60 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:59.839 FPS like it's almost like the game developer 00:10:54.800 --> 00:11:01.200 targeted gtx 1070 4k 60. like it's it's 00:10:59.839 --> 00:11:08.320 locked in and not v-sync it's just at like 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:08.320 anywhere from 59 to 65. 00:11:08.640 --> 00:11:13.040 all right i do think the detail looks a little higher on the xbox here's our 00:11:12.079 --> 00:11:20.160 hallway can you stop being so biased i'm not being for one second colin 00:11:16.880 --> 00:11:22.240 objective can you stop being an xbot 00:11:20.160 --> 00:11:25.680 oh it's really hard to tell because this has got the 00:11:23.839 --> 00:11:30.399 proper contrast i'd say in terms of texture quality it's darn close but we 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.680 can have a look at level of detail on things like the gun and our little robot 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:39.360 friend here i'd say that's real similar 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:43.680 i mean if i can't tell flipping back and forth between them like this 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:47.519 i think it's fair to call it a wash now in terms of frame rate 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:52.959 obviously we don't have an FPS counter on the xbox version well on the pc we do 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:56.480 but having played a number of games in my day 00:11:54.079 --> 00:12:01.200 i can tell you guys this is a pretty darn locked 60 FPS now when the action 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:04.800 gets a little bit more intense we can see if it holds it but i mean 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:08.800 i've played around with the maternal enough that i already know the answer to 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:14.480 that it's going to hold it just fine this gaming experience 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:16.720 is not markedly different so far 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:22.399 i was expecting i don't know what i was expecting i was not expecting 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:25.360 the 1070 to hold up quite so well 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:28.200 game looks good it's running smooth i am blown away 00:12:27.040 --> 00:12:32.560 by how similar these ended up being in terms of 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:39.440 performance of course neither rocket league nor do maternal got xbox series specific 00:12:37.040 --> 00:12:42.639 optimizations whereas forza horizon 4 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:49.040 looks flipping amazing on the new gen x boxes 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:53.360 xbox i xboxes even sitting this close to it 00:12:51.839 --> 00:12:57.760 it's just like man this is a good-looking game 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:02.079 is that a lego car did you was it lego 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:05.920 i don't know it is it's made of lego 00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:08.800 i didn't imagine it were you messing with me 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.240 did you know it was lego the whole time i couldn't tell 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:15.120 that tearing though yeah it's pretty terry 00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:23.440 i mean we're holding 55 yeah i think that's why i'm getting so 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:28.720 much tearing though all right we're not able to do ultra quality oh well we 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:31.120 could turn on bennett wait what 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:36.240 okay hey xbox gets dynamic rendering update 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.800 did it have dynamic end optimization i would assuming that's what 00:13:37.839 --> 00:13:43.680 the whole design for xbox thing is let's see okay 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:47.279 so now we're at a locked 60 and that tearing issue is mostly gone 00:13:46.160 --> 00:13:51.440 oh still some ugly tearing 00:13:50.079 --> 00:13:58.000 yeah yeah okay okay hold on though hold on there's 00:13:54.560 --> 00:14:00.160 a video g-sync over HDMI 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:06.639 i think you would have to have one of the new cards with HDMI variable 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:09.440 refresh rate okay 00:14:10.079 --> 00:14:15.600 point xbox yeah a little bit 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:19.440 okay why don't we try turning v-sync on you 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:25.199 okay yeah it's definitely a little more jello-y on the inputs that's what 00:14:21.199 --> 00:14:25.199 happens when you have v-sync on 00:14:25.680 --> 00:14:31.040 but now that it's running 00:14:28.839 --> 00:14:33.839 smoothly ah image quality 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:43.279 maybe a touch more aliasing in the road lines 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:46.639 but it looks darn good don't it that actually went way better than i 00:14:44.880 --> 00:14:49.600 expected that cocky tone at the beginning of the video i was just 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:54.240 messing with you guys i thought this was going to be an absolute bloodbath but 00:14:52.560 --> 00:14:59.279 colin and actually with some help from Anthony those two put together a pretty 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:04.160 darn compelling system like it kept up way better than i expected and 00:15:01.920 --> 00:15:09.600 it's a pc right so you can still browse the web edit video or run emulators 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:16.160 without rebooting into a funky developer mode and all that good stuff 00:15:12.560 --> 00:15:18.959 with that said it would be 00:15:16.160 --> 00:15:23.760 irresponsible of me to declare this some kind of pc master race victory 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:29.040 a we cheated on the price b we made all kinds of compromises to 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:35.360 the config like the single channel memory the uh oh a quarter the amount of 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:37.440 storage the lack of a blu-ray drive 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:42.639 didn't mention that before the crummy controller and the numerous other 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:47.519 compromises we don't have any meaningful warranty whatsoever we ended up spending 00:15:44.959 --> 00:15:51.360 a fortune on shipping not just the items coming to us in the first place but also 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:56.800 returning things that ultimately weren't compatible and of course the complete 00:15:54.160 --> 00:16:03.759 lack of any modern features like HDMI 2.1 and ray tracing support so 00:16:00.880 --> 00:16:09.279 no it wasn't a victory but 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