{"video_id":"5mm_gdnOxpU","title":"AMD vs Intel Title Fight! - XMG Core 15 Red vs Blue Comparison","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2022-05-05T14:53:29Z","duration_s":488,"segments":[{"start_s":0.16,"end_s":8.4,"text":"i have got not one but two of the same laptop here on the table","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":6.16,"end_s":11.519,"text":"it all comes down to this Intel","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.36,"end_s":15.839,"text":"versus AMD comparing them in laptops has become","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.0,"end_s":22.16,"text":"practically impossible over the last couple of years because nobody makes an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.64,"end_s":23.119,"text":"identical machine where only the CPU is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.16,"end_s":29.119,"text":"different excuse me did i say nobody","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.92,"end_s":32.239,"text":"the xmg core 15 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free for 30 days today with no credit card","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":467.52,"end_s":473.919,"text":"required at freshbooks.com Linus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":1},{"start_s":471.68,"end_s":477.44,"text":"thanks for watching bio actually hold on if you're looking for another video to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":475.199,"end_s":482.639,"text":"watch check out the recent one on how laptop manufacturers are slowing down","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":479.599,"end_s":484.8,"text":"your pc by using higher density RAM it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":482.639,"end_s":489.12,"text":"makes even more of a difference than AMD versus Intel which is a little awkward","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"i have got not one but two of the same laptop here on the table it all comes down to this Intel versus AMD comparing them in laptops has become practically impossible over the last couple of years because nobody makes an identical machine where only the CPU is different excuse me did i say nobody the xmg core 15 claims to give absolutely equal treatment to both sides so then with everything else the same who will be victorious i don't know all i know is that the teleprompter appears to have gained sentience and is commanding me to tell you about our sponsor instantly see your current and past network activity detect malware and block badly behaving apps on your pc or Android device with glasswire use offer code Linus to get 25 off glasswire at the link down below with the notable exception of the motherboard chipset and storage don't worry we'll get to that every other part of these two systems is exactly alike same rtx 3060 GPU same 62 watt hour battery and same 1920 by 1080 165 hertz ips display this gives us something that is really rare for mobile devices an opportunity to run a truly apples to apples comparison between teen blue and team red cpus and not just in terms of CPU performance benchmarks that would make my job easy but it wouldn't give us the full picture so on your right Intel inside the brand spanking new core i7 11800h weighing in at 21.88 us dollars and on your left is AMD's mobile bread and butter the ryzen 7 5800h and right out of the gate AMD's 5800h is showing a big part of what's made it such an enthusiast darling even though it also has 8 cores and 16 threads and boosts just 0.2 gigahertz lower it ends up priced almost 100 us dollars below its Intel competition but there is more here than meets the eye take the exterior for instance we have definitely got the same chassis and therefore the same port arrangement but that doesn't mean the i o is exactly the same this is a usb type-c port this is a Thunderbolt 4 port a feature that ranks pretty high on my list of nice to haves in a laptop especially at this kind of price now to be clear usb-c can be used as a single cable docking solution running your display network and peripherals not to mention power but Thunderbolt just plain does it better with more bandwidth for displays and storage daisy chain support and compatibility of course with pesky Thunderbolt only peripherals now Thunderbolt is an Intel technology so while some desktop AMD motherboards do have it courtesy of an onboard Intel chip it hasn't shown up in any AMD laptops as far as i'm aware but that should change with rumors indicating that Thunderbolt compatibility will show up in the form of usb4 ports on ryzen 6000 series chips codename warhol in 2022-ish but enough about that let's talk performance surprisingly Intel won the vast majority of our tests blender classroom runs saw anywhere between 8 and 30 seconds of improvement on repeat tests 3d mark reported a 4.1 percent CPU score improvement in time spy it was more of the same when it came to gaming the 11 808 showed a mild lead across the board shadow of the tomb raider rainbow six siege and f1 2020 all with improvements of up to 15 over AMD but there's a catch power it's hard to say exactly which factors contribute the most here but in spite of both cpus having default tdps of 45 watts our ryzen CPU settled in at around 60 watts with our Intel chip self-reporting power consumption as high as 100 watts and settling in around 80 watts during extended workloads wow i mean on the desktop 20 watts is like having some more RGB in your case but on mobile pc mark's modern office battery test gave AMD a 31 edge over Intel at the same screen brightness that's a big deal ask any ev owner how they'd feel about thirty percent more range versus an extra five to fifteen percent more power they're going to take the thirty percent every time but Intel's heavier power draw comes from more than just turboing up their cores so aggressively the core i7 11800h has support for pci express gen 4 which might feel a bit overkill for a laptop but it gives manufacturers an opportunity to nearly double the sequential read and write performance of their system drive for just the 60 difference between a samsung 980 pro and the 970 evo plus that xpg paired with AMD's ryzen 7 5800h now sequential io isn't the be-all and end-all in pc mark's storage test the gap does begin to narrow and we even found when we ran a test a little over a year ago that no one on our team could tell the difference between a low end and a high-end SSD doing everyday things like loading games and editing 4k videos so outside of some very specific workloads like frequent large data ingests or big number crunching i suspect most of you won't be able to tell but that pci express advantage extends past the storage to the GPU as well and while these rtx 3060s are capable of running pci express gen 4 with up to 16 lanes which our Intel system is fully utilizing thanks to its four additional PCIe lanes our AMD system is connected at just one quarter that speed with only 8 gen 3 lanes but then we did already talk about gaming performance didn't we and we know then that AMD's compromises here appear to have been wise ones at least that's true on a machine running an rtx 3060 rather than a 37d or a 3080. boiling it all down then the Intel machine wins on performance and the AMD machine wins on battery life so what do you choose well what i i can't i can't tell you i already gave you all the numbers and i explained why they're such from here it's your call if you've got the extra benjamin to spend and you want balls for the wall performance the Intel version of the core 15 looks great it's got Thunderbolt pci express gen 4 storage however small the benefit might be and you might have an easier time sourcing it at the moment but if battery life is what you're after then i'd take the AMD if you're wondering why AMD laptops tend to be a better value i guess we've finally got the answer just make sure that you take that extra cash and spend it over at lttstore.com oh or with our sponsor freshbooks is easy to use accounting software designed specifically with you in mind the small business owner freshbooks has everything you need to manage your books invoicing expenses time tracking and more and it's designed to be easy to use with built-in automation so you spend less time invoicing expensing and tracking projects and more time doing projects and growing your business whether you're a tradesperson creative agency or a youtuber you can choose a plan that's right for you they have award-winning toronto-based customer support if you need it and you can try it out for free for 30 days today with no credit card required at freshbooks.com Linus thanks for watching bio actually hold on if you're looking for another video to watch check out the recent one on how laptop manufacturers are slowing down your pc by using higher density RAM it makes even more of a difference than AMD versus Intel which is a little awkward"}