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It's every parent's worst nightmare. My daughter comes to me the other morning

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before school. She looks up at me, tears in her eyes, and she says, "Daddy,

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the other kids have Chromebooks and they said, "I need a Chromebook, too." Yep.

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Once again, I'm being forced to buy a Chromebook so another one of my cotang

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kids can go to school, which is why I'm here with David because plot twist, I

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also need a Chromebook for my kid. But I'm not that mad about it. I know they

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sucked a few years ago, but surely they've gotten better now.

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>> They definitely haven't all improved, but there's such a wide range of devices

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available across an extreme range of pricing that I'm sure we can find

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something that suits our needs. All we got to do is quit stalling in the

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parking lot, bite the bullet, and go back to school shopping.

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>> Yeah. >> Wait, are you actually excited to back to school shop?

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>> What do you know about Chromebooks, Linus? having not looked into them since

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realistically the last time we covered them. Not that much, not even where they

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are in the store. But I am armed with some guidelines. The school sent a list

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of requirements for the specs and functionality, although they're pretty

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low. I hope we're not going to see anything modern that doesn't meet those

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requirements. And then as a, you know, tech literate parent, I obviously have

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some of my own thoughts about what I might like to have with respect to, you

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know, build quality, performance, battery life, um, something that's going

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to give my kids a pretty decent experience.

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Two more things, just a reminder, we are Canadian, so all the prices you see are

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in Canadian dollars. We'll get a nice little exchange rate down there for you.

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And just a reminder, I am an investor in Framework, so they make laptops. We're

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shopping for laptops. Make it that what you will. Is this going to be a problem?

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>> Uh, I think we should be fine. I see some of the models that I've been looking online, including the Asus CX34

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that is on sale, which is pretty nice. >> Okay. And in terms of price range,

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right, like I kind of imagine somewhere in the 300 to 400 Canadian price range.

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>> That's about what I was hoping for. I was kind of capping out at $400 before

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tax. >> And they do have cheaper options. So, I

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mean, I guess I'm open to them if the look on your face says it all.

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>> Garbage. I think the processor and the cheaper ones is going to be the deal

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breaker for me. >> Well, they don't have the one you were eyeing on display, unfortunately, which

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seems like it kind of defeats the purpose of a retail store, but

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>> let's make the most of it and have a look at what's here on the shelf.

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>> I did find one thing. It's not a touch screen, which isn't a requirement, but

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definitely is a nice to have on a device like this. >> 100% agree. Moving up to the Lenovo Slim

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314in. I'm sorry, Apple, I disagree. Having a touchcreen is really nice. With

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that said, I don't know that I want to spend twice as much and end up with a

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MediaTek processor. Admittedly, I haven't really looked into MediaTek's

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performance in Chrome OS, but outside of their Ultra 910, they haven't been known

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for their high performance design. So, I do have some concerns. With that said,

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the bigger concern on this one is the keyboard. And I'm not even talking about

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the flex. I'm talking about that bilingual Canadian keyboard enter key.

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unacceptable. >> Hey, the HP X360 starts to feel a lot

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more like a laptop. It's got the glass screen, the better keyboard layout, and

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much better performance than some of our other contestants. The problem is is

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that it's got a price tag to match that. >> Yeah, I don't know if I want to spend

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$700, even Canadian ones, on a Chromebook, brother. And that processor

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is better, but it's not great.

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>> Wait, there's a different price in the cabinet than there is up top. That's a

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reasonable price. I might actually want this one. >> Hold on. Is the UPC the same?

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>> 4051. >> N 4051.

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>> No. >> 31 3148. But it's still got the same

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processor. N305. >> That's a completely different UPC format. Okay. Which pro? What is it?

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Wait a second. This one says Chromebook and this one says Chromebook plus.

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>> What is Chromebook Plus? >> I'm so glad you asked.

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Chromebook plus is a set of minimum specifications across five categories

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that in theory allows Google to guarantee a certain quality of

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experience with perks like better performance and video conferencing as

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well as more robust AI features. Uh

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wait, do I even want AI features on my grade school kids laptop? I don't know.

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But if you want a little more information about plus, you can check

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out the video we'll have linked below. Back to you, Lionus and David.

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Thanks, professor. As it turns out, the difference between these has nothing to

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do with plus or not plus. It's actually that the top one is this year's model

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and the one that's on special is last year's model. There's a couple of little

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differences. The new one has a slightly brighter screen, more storage, and

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actually a lower battery life rating. So, maybe we should find out if they

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have any in stock. >> Let's do it. >> Kind of doesn't look like it. >> Doesn't look like they have much in

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stock at all. >> It's back to school and we're really doing this last minute.

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>> They apparently just use the website to check for stock, so we can do that ourselves. Sadly, they are out of stock.

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Ooh, the only one is uh about an hour and a half drive away.

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>> I love my kid, but not that much.

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Unfortunately, mine's out of stock, too. But if I'm willing to give up the

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touchcreen and the convertible hinge, I can actually get this one for $3.49 with

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the same performance and still with an IPS display. >> The kid will never know you were

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considering getting them a convertible. Don't watch this video, please.

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>> I think I've made my choice. As much as I'd love to have last year's model at a

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discount, they don't have it in stock. So, I'm going to go with this year's X360. Partially because I do like the

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glass top screen for a device like this. Kids can be really rough with these

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things. and the matte style touchcreens

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not the most durable and partly just to end up with something different than

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David who's going to go sight unseen with the Asus CX34 which we found in

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stock at another retailer nearby. I hope I don't regret this. I guess if I do,

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they have a return policy. >> Hey, how do you think you did, Lionus?

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>> Honestly, I don't love this deal. I feel like this

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was, you know, 40%. I just want to walk

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away with something so that my back to school shopping is done. I mean, that's

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kind of how they get you at retail. And then 60% wanting to see if there is any

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benefit that I'm getting to getting the latest model versus the bang for the

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buck one that you're picking up. Wait,

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mine really doesn't have Chromebook Plus

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branding. Oh, it's here.

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Oh, what the heck? Anyway, David ended

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up with the Asus CX34 for $3.99 Canadian

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and I've got the HP X360 for 59 5.99

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>> $6.99 it that much. >> Yeah, I don't leave that in.

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>> I really don't feel like this is going to end up being the play. But one thing

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that I guess I get is Google guarantees 10 years of updates on Chromebooks from

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the release of a new model. meaning that I will get updates a little bit longer.

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Even then, I got to say it kind of seems crazy that you'd spend this much on a

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Chromebook when like referred MacBooks exist, which come to think of it, my kid

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school requires Chromebooks. What's your excuse for cheaping out?

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Let's get these unboxed. Mine's no great mystery since we saw it in the store,

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but this will be our first hands-on with David's laptop.

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You know what? This does not feel like

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$300 less than the one I got. I think you're going to be pretty happy with

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just the feel of it. Woo!

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>> But you might have gotten bamboozled on the keyboard.

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>> Sorry, my uh actually uh French Canadian

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friend, but nobody likes the keyboards we have

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to put up with because of you people. >> What do you mean you people?

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And it is a little flexy, but if we're being real, mine's even

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worse. Yikes. It's almost like they

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introduced these machines at $6700

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knowing that next year they're going to have to sell them for $3.99 to get rid

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of them. And uh bake that into the build

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quality. And while I know some of you will be

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sitting there at home going, "Well, who really cares? No one's doing that to their laptop. Are you seeing the way

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kids handle these things? Well, my laptop's on. Anyway, the reason I took

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my laptop out was to also talk about how kids backpacks aren't always really

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optimal for holding a laptop. That is, unless you get your kids the commuter

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bag from ltstore.com. Yeah, I'm going to

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one day they're going to find it.

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I definitely like your charger better. This is a 45 watt charger. And yeah, it

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has the bulky part right on the jack, which can cause interference issues a

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little bit, but when you compare that to what my kid's going to have to carry

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around, this is definitely the preferred one.

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Although both are type-C HP, this didn't

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have to be so big. >> Ooh, I do like the cable that keeps it

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away from the wall, though. >> It's a trade-off. Definitely a

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trade-off. Just like IO is a trade-off, man. You get two USB type A's, HDMI

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type-C, and what about second type-C?

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Meanwhile, one type A, type-C, type- C,

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and that's it. We both got a headphone jack, though, so which makes sense

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actually because that's part of the standard loadout. They need a mouse,

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they need a pair of headphones, and that's so that they can sit and listen in class without disturbing the other

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students. Enough of the outsides, though. I think it's time to power these

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on. And uh >> is that a volume rocker? >> Oh yeah, power on the side and volume

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rocker. That's because this one is a

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convertible. >> Oo, you do have 180° hinge on this one,

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which can actually be really nice for just I don't know. I used to walk around

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on campus like this, but it's not

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convertible. 1450

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10 g. This is for my youngest, and I

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didn't really consider that weight on her back would be a factor until I

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picked it up and I went, "Man, that screen feels pretty heavy." But as it turns out, the weight difference between

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these is only about 50 g, which I don't think is going to be a dealbreaker.

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>> She's going to get swole. >> This is kind of wild. Your keyboard

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flexes so much more than mine does, even though my chassis twists so much more

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than yours does. Let's start with a quick and casual benchmark. Since most

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of what these devices will be doing is using Chrome browser, it matters a lot

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how well it performs in web browsers.

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I think mine's loading a little faster. >> It's pretty close. >> Do you notice that?

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>> Nope. I think it's just margin of error. I think yours was a little faster that

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time. Both are perfectly suitably adequate, but there are nice to haves.

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Like let's say you were watching video for instance. What are the speakers

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like? We'll say this. Oh, wait. I was

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going to say I don't think that my screen is that much brighter. It is.

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>> Yes, but it's a big color temperature difference, too. I do notice that

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there's a much warmer tone to the color on this one. I actually very much prefer

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the ASUS. Oh, both of them do have

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dedicated hardware buttons to hide the webcam. That's really nice to see,

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especially for anything where kids are involved. Privacy is a major concern

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there. I will say this, actually using the keyboards, I don't really notice the

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differences in deck flex nearly as much as I might have thought.

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Those speakers are poo poo.

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It turns out poo comes in all kinds of flavors.

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You know what? Conveniently, DMS is in the next room. Let's get him to choose.

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Uh, come on over. I think you'll like this. >> What do you need?

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>> I need you to be the judge.

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>> Oh, here we go. Laptop speakers.

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>> Okay. You know what? Let's do it blind. >> Sure.

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>> So, uh, just go go like right like Yeah. Just just however you want. However,

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>> face this way. >> Yeah. So, you can face this way. Just close your eyes. Close your eyes.

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>> Okay. And then and then I'll I might move the laptops around or switch their

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positions. You >> It feels very scientific. >> Yeah. You don't know you don't know

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which one I'm going to put down on which side. And realistically, you don't even

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know what laptops these are anyway. So >> that's true. I didn't even see the labels.

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>> Yeah. So there's there's really no >> an ABX. Is there a third laptop?

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>> There's no way for you to be biased. Uh oh. If you'd like. Yeah, I could I could

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add a I could add a third device fairly easily.

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>> A MacBook sitting in the other room. Uh, that would probably be too obvious.

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>> That's fair. >> Okay, here we go. So, let's say A.

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>> Okay. >> B.

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Hold on. We need C still.

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>> Yeah, that's like notably better than the other two. >> Can I Can I see what I'm listening to

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now? >> Uh-huh. >> What was What was What? >> This is a

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>> Okay, >> so this is actually the one that was here. the uh the ASUS one.

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>> Gotcha. >> It doesn't have speaker grills, which I always feel is a problem.

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>> Wait, so this was A or this was C? >> This is A. >> This is C.

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>> That's C. >> This one sounds good. >> I think good's a pretty strong word

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personally, but the other one was my phone. I can handle this one and I

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prefer this one, but I would never be able to listen to it loud. >> I feel like there's like a special

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circle of hell for people who listen really loud on laptop speakers. Anyway,

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>> that's fair. >> Maybe I shouldn't say that in the video. >> Well, it's done now. One thing I noticed

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when we were watching video is your black levels are also significantly

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better. Even though I have an IPS display, which theoretically is, you

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know, better or whatever, the fact that my glass is sitting so far forward and

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catching so much glare means that you get a significantly deeper black, which

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personally I appreciate. We also haven't looked at performance yet. We're using

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Speedometer 3.1 to do just a quick and dirty browser performance test.

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Theoretically, you have the better chip though, right? >> Yeah. >> These don't look notably different to

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me. And they don't feel notably different in use. Oh, you are making it

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through the benchmarks faster though. No question. You've got the faster chip.

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21.2 to 13.7. >> Woo! Suck it.

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>> Would a human care in a browser? Probably not. But if we were to run say

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Android games or even Steam games using

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Proton, it might matter or wait about

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that. Next year, Steam for Chrome OS is going to stop receiving updates, meaning

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that, and I quote, games installed as part of the Steam beta will no longer be

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available to play on your device. Now, I

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fully expect that just like when I was a kid, the younglings will find ways to

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game on their school PCs. I mean, I already mentioned Android titles like we

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showed before and online streaming is getting better all the time, but for me,

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this is still a huge downer because under the hood, Chrome OS is based on

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Linux, and I was kind of quietly rooting for the Chrome OS education monopoly to

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help drive Linux gaming into the mainstream. I also think that this is a

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big bummer for Google because Chromebooks at the moment are in kind of

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a weird spot. They've tried multiple times to upmarket these things, but

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they've remained pretty stagnant both in terms of performance and in terms of

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public perception. As for sales, well, we don't actually have the latest

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numbers for that, but it does seem like we are comfortably past the surge in

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demand that they enjoyed during the pandemic. So, what does all that mean

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for the future of Chromebooks? Well, despite the rumors, I don't think

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they're going away altogether. I do know Google has a bad habit of dropping

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product lines, but the market penetration and the long-term support

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commitments that they continue to make seem to indicate that abandoning them,

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it's not likely. But that doesn't mean we're going to be stuck with the flimsy

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status quo forever. What are our other options? >> One of them is Chrome OS Flex, which is

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basically the ability to install Chrome OS on Windows and Mac laptops.

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>> Nice. Thanks, David. In the case of my kid school, apparently only one person

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has ever tried to use it, though. But it was successful. So, if you've ever used

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Chrome OS Flex, let us know your thoughts down in the comments. And while

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you're down there, let us know what you think of our picks. Did we get a good

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value, an okay value, a bad value? What

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