WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.799 The Steam controller just came out and 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:06.319 our biggest hang-up was the price. So, 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:08.400 we're looking at a controller that 00:00:06.319 --> 00:00:10.080 sneaks in quite a bit under. And if 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.639 you're only looking for that gamepad 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:16.720 functionality, none of that trackpad 00:00:12.639 --> 00:00:18.960 nonsense, the Vader 5 Pro from Fry Digi 00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:21.760 might be a very interesting option for 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:23.840 you. And for me, I'm uh at the point 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:26.480 with my Cyclone 2 where I'm maybe 00:00:23.840 --> 00:00:29.199 considering a replacement. And this is 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:31.599 at the top of my list for a number of 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:34.399 reasons. The top of them being these 00:00:31.599 --> 00:00:38.000 adjustable tension joysticks. As we 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:40.160 explored with the 4 era of Fly Digi's 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:42.960 product in our 16-way controller 00:00:40.160 --> 00:00:45.120 roundup, these adjustable joystick 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.760 tension thingies are faking sweet. 00:00:45.120 --> 00:00:50.960 Whether you like really light 40 g force 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:52.960 or 100 g of force, you can kind of lock 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:55.280 in the tension you want. And with the 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:57.120 latest version of the Vader 5S Pro, 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:59.120 these are actually ratcheting, so it's 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:01.120 less likely for them to slip as you play 00:00:59.120 --> 00:01:02.480 and the tension to switch. Good sticks 00:01:01.120 --> 00:01:04.320 are important, but what about the rest 00:01:02.480 --> 00:01:06.400 of the controller? On the top, we have 00:01:04.320 --> 00:01:08.000 our Fly Digi button. That is actually a 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:10.799 button this time, not just a logo. We 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:13.280 have our start select. They're not 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:16.080 called that anymore. Menu options. call 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:17.920 it overlapping squares and three dots. 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:21.759 >> On the top, we have our joysticks. We 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:23.759 have our floating D-pad that is clicky 00:01:21.759 --> 00:01:25.759 and will do a fine job getting you 00:01:23.759 --> 00:01:28.159 through your menus. If you're planning 00:01:25.759 --> 00:01:30.560 on using this D-pad for precision 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:32.400 controls, stop planning that 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.799 immediately. This is not what that is 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:37.439 designed for. Over here, we have four 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:39.920 clicky mechanical buttons, which I have 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:41.840 grown to really like clicky buttons on 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:43.520 my controllers, as well as two extra 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.680 buttons. So, if you're playing them Sega 00:01:43.520 --> 00:01:47.840 games or Xbox original games, you got 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:50.399 actual face buttons. The click on these 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:52.399 is actually quite different. It's 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:56.560 substantially less satisfying. You can 00:01:52.399 --> 00:01:58.479 even hear it. Oh, yeah. 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.159 But that's fine. These are things you 00:01:58.479 --> 00:02:01.040 can assign to extra controls. I don't 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.640 think they're going to be primary 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:04.799 inputs. So, just having the extra 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.119 options is nice. Especially when you go 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:10.160 to the top, there's extra little option 00:02:07.119 --> 00:02:11.680 bumpers here. Like the 8bit do 2C. We 00:02:10.160 --> 00:02:14.239 have three shoulder buttons on each 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:16.720 side. We have our regular uh big boy 00:02:14.239 --> 00:02:18.400 bumpers with a textured plastic. And 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:19.840 then we have our triggers that have a 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.360 ton of features hidden inside. We'll get 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.680 to shortly. And then we got these little 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:25.440 clicky bumpers. I think just like the 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.360 2C, they're a little bit far of a reach 00:02:25.440 --> 00:02:29.120 that I probably wouldn't use too too 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.640 often, but in games where I'm like, I 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:33.120 really wish I could assign one extra 00:02:30.640 --> 00:02:35.760 control. That is nice. And they feel 00:02:33.120 --> 00:02:38.879 pretty good. As do the bumpers. They 00:02:35.760 --> 00:02:42.080 don't feel even across the button over 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:44.720 here. It's a much more satisfying click. 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.560 Over here, I can feel the plastic doing 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:48.319 sort of a lever thing before the 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:49.760 mechanism actually activates. Still 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.360 pretty good though. Would have no 00:02:49.760 --> 00:02:53.440 problems, especially the way I hold it. 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:55.519 Like most my finger is on it anyway. 00:02:53.440 --> 00:02:57.280 Just like the triggers. And similar to 00:02:55.519 --> 00:03:00.239 other Fly Digi products, we actually 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:03.519 have mechanical stops to make them the 00:03:00.239 --> 00:03:06.000 competitive style little hair triggers. 00:03:03.519 --> 00:03:08.400 And these are really satisfying. Do you 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:10.480 hear that sound? Also on the top of note 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.560 is our type-C charging port. You can 00:03:10.480 --> 00:03:14.720 also use this controller via wire. In 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.560 terms of connectivity, there is a 2.4 00:03:14.720 --> 00:03:20.080 GHz dongle included. You can use 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:22.000 Bluetooth. On the back, we got the uh 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.680 trigger stops back here. We have 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.200 pre-installed paddle buttons that are 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:27.360 built into the controller. We have our 00:03:25.200 --> 00:03:28.800 two slots to add extra paddle buttons 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.480 with attachments that are in the box. 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:33.200 We'll actually do the real unboxing 00:03:30.480 --> 00:03:35.680 later. And then the two little buttons 00:03:33.200 --> 00:03:38.959 actually for the extra back paddles as 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:41.120 well. And then we have our mode toggle. 00:03:38.959 --> 00:03:42.959 So we have dongle, Bluetooth, Nintendo 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.640 Switch mode. It's important to note this 00:03:42.959 --> 00:03:47.040 won't work out of the box with a 00:03:44.640 --> 00:03:48.799 PlayStation or Xbox console. You can get 00:03:47.040 --> 00:03:50.640 adapters that do work with that, but by 00:03:48.799 --> 00:03:52.799 the time you buy those adapters, uh the 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:54.879 value proposition of this controller is 00:03:52.799 --> 00:03:56.640 severely weakened. It's time to go out 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.640 to our field reporter to find out if 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:01.040 this controller connected to a Switch 2 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:02.799 can turn it on just using the button. 00:04:01.040 --> 00:04:04.319 Switching this into Nintendo Switch 00:04:02.799 --> 00:04:07.879 mode. 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.879 Holding the button. 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:14.159 I need to be hitting the bumpers. Oh, 00:04:10.799 --> 00:04:16.160 nope. There we go. It's connected. 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:19.440 Takes you back home, but it will not 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:22.079 wake the console. 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:24.000 Wow. Incredible. On the bottom, we have 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.360 our function and turbo buttons. That's 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.880 not stuff I'm in the habit of using, but 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:29.120 I know some people are very passionate 00:04:26.880 --> 00:04:31.680 about those, so power to you. We also 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.840 have our LED strip that will light up in 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:35.759 desperate search of a dongle that is not 00:04:33.840 --> 00:04:37.280 plugged in right now. Of note, just like 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:39.199 the Steam Controller, there is no 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:41.840 headphone jack, which may or may not be 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.600 a dealbreaker for you, but features are 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:46.080 what features are, baby. Let's see how 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:49.600 this feels in the hand. It feels like 00:04:46.080 --> 00:04:52.160 I'm holding a really much improved Xbox 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.600 controller. It's got a similar uh grip 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.360 style. You can kind of see in terms of 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:57.440 the angle, but it has a more rubberized 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.479 plastic, sort of like the Elite. I think 00:04:57.440 --> 00:05:02.240 people are going to be a little bit 00:04:58.479 --> 00:05:04.320 mixed on this. I don't like rubber on my 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:06.479 controllers because that puts a counter 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:08.800 down for when this controller will be 00:05:06.479 --> 00:05:11.520 absolutely disgusting and oily. That 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.520 being said, today it feels really nice 00:05:11.520 --> 00:05:15.600 and really premium. We got the textured 00:05:13.520 --> 00:05:18.080 back, the textured bumpers and triggers. 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.520 There's a different type of plastic here 00:05:18.080 --> 00:05:21.120 that has little speckles in it. So, I 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:22.880 think that's a neat touch. Although, I 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.720 don't think they go quite far enough to 00:05:22.880 --> 00:05:26.639 make it super two-toned. When I catch 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.400 the light, it feels more different than 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.639 it looks. In person, it kind of just 00:05:28.400 --> 00:05:33.600 looks like dark gray and dark gray with 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:35.759 flex in it. I wish this had more 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.039 contrast. I think that would make it pop 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.120 more. That being said, that's as 00:05:37.039 --> 00:05:40.320 nitpicky as nitpicky gets, baby. I 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.600 actually got too excited about this 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:43.600 controller. We need to see what else is 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.000 in the box. So, you get a nice little 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:49.280 thick manual in many languages. You also 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.720 get ads for other Vlad Digi controllers 00:05:49.280 --> 00:05:52.560 from the Doomf Fox all the way to the 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.919 Apex 5. I want to cover both of those. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.759 Let us know in the comments which one 00:05:53.919 --> 00:05:58.320 you're more interested in me covering. 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:01.360 We also have other products like a phone 00:05:58.320 --> 00:06:05.199 cooler and a laptop cooling pad. Also in 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:07.759 the box is a 150 cm cable. Um that's 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.720 just under 5 ft. It's not the cheapest 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:12.479 cable I've ever felt. Uh it's rated for 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.880 USB 3, which is nice. Pretty good 00:06:12.479 --> 00:06:18.560 housing. Will do the job. We also have 00:06:14.880 --> 00:06:19.840 our dongle. Regular ass dongle. is 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.120 definitely not as cool as the Steam 00:06:19.840 --> 00:06:22.720 Controller one and it doesn't have the 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:25.280 functionality of plugging into your 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:27.919 cable or charging your controller, but 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:31.039 that's fine. Last thing inside of this 00:06:27.919 --> 00:06:33.919 plastic is our extra rear paddles. They 00:06:31.039 --> 00:06:36.160 slide into the back here with a little 00:06:33.919 --> 00:06:38.560 satisfying click. And if you've been 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.280 paying close attention to Fly Digi's 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:44.160 latest controllers, you'll know that uh 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:45.520 some of the early ones had really bad 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.800 back paddles where they would break 00:06:45.520 --> 00:06:48.639 really bad. And you'll be glad to know 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:51.199 that this is actually the V2 of the 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:52.639 Vader 5 Pro and they fixed the part 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.319 inside the controller that was just a 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.680 little plastic loop uh that was 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:58.319 breaking. So, it should be more 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:00.000 reliable. Although, I do have comments 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.280 about the fact that there's a V2 that 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.440 it's hard to know about. We'll get to 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:06.240 that later. Wow, that's actually 00:07:03.440 --> 00:07:08.319 surprisingly seamless. I was expecting 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:10.960 it to feel like the difference in back 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:13.520 paddle would be quite drastic, but they 00:07:10.960 --> 00:07:15.840 feel very connected to each other. Like 00:07:13.520 --> 00:07:17.759 there's a little bit of flex on the 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:19.919 levered ones, but I'm getting a 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:21.520 satisfying click. And if I needed four 00:07:19.919 --> 00:07:22.880 back paddles, this would be certainly 00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:24.880 adequate. Although, I would like that 00:07:22.880 --> 00:07:27.120 plastic a little stiffer. One thing that 00:07:24.880 --> 00:07:28.720 is slightly painfully missing when you 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:32.400 compare it to something like the Cyclone 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:34.560 2 is there's no included dock. Not the 00:07:32.400 --> 00:07:37.039 end of the world, uh, if it keeps the 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:39.599 pricing more accessible. And the fact 00:07:37.039 --> 00:07:42.319 that there is an optional dock, uh, for 00:07:39.599 --> 00:07:44.880 $25 is pretty nice. Let's see how this 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:49.599 thing is. 00:07:44.880 --> 00:07:51.520 White. White. The dock is very premium 00:07:49.599 --> 00:07:53.520 feeling compared to the packin one on 00:07:51.520 --> 00:07:55.120 this the Cyclone 2. I start to 00:07:53.520 --> 00:07:56.639 understand why they're charging more for 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.080 it. It's got good weight, which is 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.520 actually nice because the controller is 00:07:58.080 --> 00:08:01.840 going to sit nice and it's not really 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:04.879 going to be in danger of falling over or 00:08:01.840 --> 00:08:07.360 disconnecting. There is no magnetic 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:09.919 click, but the pins go in quite nicely. 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.520 On the front, we have RGB array for cool 00:08:09.919 --> 00:08:13.039 RGB stuff. We have our charging pins and 00:08:11.520 --> 00:08:14.800 the controller mount. On the bottom, we 00:08:13.039 --> 00:08:16.639 have rubber feet so it doesn't slide as 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:21.039 much. And then we get to the good stuff. 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:23.039 We have our dongle USB slot. Uh, it's 00:08:21.039 --> 00:08:25.599 the right size for this so that you can 00:08:23.039 --> 00:08:27.759 actually use these ones. Uh, just like a 00:08:25.599 --> 00:08:29.440 USB dock. This type-C goes to your 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:31.440 computer. So, you actually get two extra 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:34.399 USB ports if you use the dock. I 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:36.159 actually am more considering the stock 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:37.919 than I thought I was going to at the 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.839 beginning of this video, just like I'm 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:43.680 really considering the upgrade to this 00:08:39.839 --> 00:08:46.959 Goku edition Vader 5 Pro. Uh, yes, you 00:08:43.680 --> 00:08:50.560 heard that right. This Vader 5 has 00:08:46.959 --> 00:08:52.880 freaking Dragon Ball Z branding all over 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:55.120 it. Over here, we have the sort of silk 00:08:52.880 --> 00:08:57.920 screen outline of Super Saiyan Goku and 00:08:55.120 --> 00:09:00.160 then Super Saiyan in Japanese as well as 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:01.920 more flames. These uh orange transparent 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:02.959 triggers are really nice and they can 00:09:01.920 --> 00:09:04.880 let you see a little bit of the 00:09:02.959 --> 00:09:08.800 mechanism of the rumble triggers of the 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:11.440 Vader 5 Pro. Very similar feel outside 00:09:08.800 --> 00:09:14.160 of the front plate. This feels really 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.519 nice, premium. This feels sticky and 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:17.440 cheap. It's actually cheap enough 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.880 feeling that even though I really like 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.399 some of the aesthetic choices on this, I 00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:22.480 think I'm going to stick with my base 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.160 model. 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I 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:22.320 really only need the one. First off, we 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.480 can reassign all our mappings. That's 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.320 pretty cool. Um, especially for the back 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.760 buttons where games might not have the 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.320 ability to map that directly. You can 00:10:27.760 --> 00:10:33.040 kind of assign a specific input or a 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:34.640 macro or something special. Next, we 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:38.720 have our common settings which include 00:10:34.640 --> 00:10:40.240 the light, dynamic glow, breathing, 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.320 gradient. We're not going to go through 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:44.880 all these. We're going to turn it off 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:46.399 for battery life. That is quite bright. 00:10:44.880 --> 00:10:49.120 It might not seem like it in a well-lit 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.959 room, but that actually would uh need to 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:54.320 go off for me because I don't want to be 00:10:50.959 --> 00:10:55.360 made aware of all of this when I'm 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:57.040 playing games. You know, I want to be 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:58.880 sucked into the screen. I play video 00:10:57.040 --> 00:11:01.279 games like it's the never- ending story. 00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:03.519 I also want to extend my battery life. 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.600 This comes with a,000 milliamp hour 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.760 battery, uh, which Flagy says is good 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.200 for about 15 hours of game, but of 00:11:07.760 --> 00:11:11.040 course, if you're using tons of haptics 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.920 or lights and stuff, that will go down 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:16.160 slightly. 15 hours is okay, not great. 00:11:13.920 --> 00:11:18.160 My Steam controller did like 37. So, and 00:11:16.160 --> 00:11:19.920 that was at like full tilt haptics going 00:11:18.160 --> 00:11:22.000 all the time. It's okay. Next, we have 00:11:19.920 --> 00:11:24.079 our vibration. We can turn on or off 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.480 vibration as well as the intensity. I 00:11:24.079 --> 00:11:28.240 want my fingers to tingle. That is a 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.240 rumble motor. That is not haptics. 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.880 That's not advanced stuff. That's fine. 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.200 I think most people 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:36.640 prefer the haptics, but this would be 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.480 sufficient. Next, we have our buttons, 00:11:36.640 --> 00:11:40.480 which is just another way to remap. 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.880 Then, we have our joystick. We can 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:45.600 change our sensitivity curve. We can 00:11:42.880 --> 00:11:47.120 change our circularity algorithm. Um, if 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:50.000 we want to have it be a rectangle where 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:51.760 it's basically more forgiving about 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:54.160 slightly being offaxis where you're 00:11:51.760 --> 00:11:56.480 trying to go forward or perfect circle. 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:58.640 Uh, if you're using Hall effect or TMR 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:00.880 sticks, usually you want the precision 00:11:58.640 --> 00:12:02.000 of the circle. But that being said, we 00:12:00.880 --> 00:12:04.000 haven't even talked about what 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:06.720 technology is actually in these sticks. 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:08.720 These are Hall effect sticks as well as 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:10.480 Hall effect triggers. Now, Hall effect 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.079 technology is better than 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.360 potentiometerbased sticks like you have 00:12:12.079 --> 00:12:15.200 in all three of the first party 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:17.120 controllers. However, we have entered 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.959 the golden age of the tunnel 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:21.360 magnettoresistance sticks which 00:12:18.959 --> 00:12:24.560 basically has the precision and long 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:26.000 life of Hall effect with lower power 00:12:24.560 --> 00:12:27.920 draw. So, that might actually be part of 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.519 why this has a pretty okay battery life 00:12:27.920 --> 00:12:31.519 is these Hall effect sticks while 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:33.600 precise and should have a long life 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:36.560 other than the centering spring maybe 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:38.000 dying out or giving out on you. 00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:40.560 It's a shame that they haven't upgraded 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.480 to TMR sticks uh in an era where they 00:12:40.560 --> 00:12:44.720 are getting cheaper and cheaper. Go back 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:47.600 to our software. We can basically have 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:49.120 our dead zone or offset. We are going to 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.040 leave things at default. Then we have 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.560 our gyro sensors. I also haven't talked 00:12:51.040 --> 00:12:55.440 about the freaking gyro in this. It's 00:12:52.560 --> 00:12:58.000 got six axis, baby. Yeah, more features 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:59.680 than you can freaking handle. Uh I know 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.279 not everyone's super into gyro aiming, 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:03.279 but I am definitely coming around to it 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.959 in the right games. Uh, basically what 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.240 that means is you can still aim with the 00:13:04.959 --> 00:13:07.600 right stick, do your big macro 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:09.120 movements, and then little micro 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.560 adjustments with the gyro. Gives you 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.920 extra precision. Pretty freaking sweet. 00:13:10.560 --> 00:13:14.000 Next, we have our trigger settings. And 00:13:11.920 --> 00:13:15.200 we can uh change these independently of 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.040 the trigger, which is nice because 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.399 sometimes you want one to be really, 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:20.639 really quick, and so you want to 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.760 optimize for around quickness and speed, 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:23.920 and the other you want to be a little 00:13:21.760 --> 00:13:25.920 more immersive. Uh, or you can have them 00:13:23.920 --> 00:13:28.240 be the same. We can turn on and off the 00:13:25.920 --> 00:13:29.360 vibration of the triggers. Next, we can 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.440 change the stroke setting, which 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.920 basically means that like it'll get a 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.120 positive press faster uh the more 00:13:33.920 --> 00:13:37.279 sensitive you set it. Then you can 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.040 change your vibration intensity. I don't 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.320 think there's a vibration test, which is 00:13:39.040 --> 00:13:42.160 fine, but I'm going to put my vibration 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:43.839 intensity to 100. Next, we have our 00:13:42.160 --> 00:13:45.440 trigger amplitude, which seems to set 00:13:43.839 --> 00:13:47.200 the minimum maximum range for the 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.880 trigger vibration intensity, as well as 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.560 our vibration shielding value, which 00:13:48.880 --> 00:13:52.240 basically is like a dead zone for 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:53.279 activating the trigger depending on the 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.000 game. We're going to leave these at 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:58.639 default and see how our games do. 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.560 Starting with Forza Horizon 5. Let's 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:02.320 actually switch back to wireless mode. 00:14:00.560 --> 00:14:05.199 Uh so we can comment on that wireless 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:06.880 latency. Oh, I also need to turn off the 00:14:05.199 --> 00:14:10.079 lights on the dock. What are our dock 00:14:06.880 --> 00:14:10.959 settings? Light mode. Diagonal flow. 00:14:10.079 --> 00:14:12.959 It's kind of nice. You get a little 00:14:10.959 --> 00:14:15.360 preview on the screen. Okay. I'm a 00:14:12.959 --> 00:14:17.519 little more into this custom. Okay. 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:20.240 Yeah, you can put like videos in. It 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:22.320 doesn't look like you can upload videos. 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:25.279 Let's see how this works. Apply to the 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.639 device. The uh amount of RGBs is great 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:30.240 for a controller dock, but it's not 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:32.240 quite enough to have like a fullon uh 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:34.399 story told through this thing. Right 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.880 now, it's just like a beige to green. 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:39.199 You can kind of tell Mike, but you can't 00:14:36.880 --> 00:14:41.839 really tell Linus. That's okay. We're 00:14:39.199 --> 00:14:44.720 just going to go with something uh I 00:14:41.839 --> 00:14:46.399 like to call off. In the software, we 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.320 have four other options. One is 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.839 intelligent start, which basically knows 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.600 that the controller is plugged in and 00:14:49.839 --> 00:14:53.600 will turn off the animation and show 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.839 charging. Uh we have lighting sync, 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:57.519 which will keep the RGB of the dock and 00:14:55.839 --> 00:14:59.360 the controller connected. You can have 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:01.519 it close when shut down, which basically 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:04.399 turns off the RGB when the computer is 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:06.959 off. Uh as well as you can change it to 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:08.720 be a power display, so it'll show you uh 00:15:06.959 --> 00:15:10.800 how much the controller is charging with 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:14.079 this cool little animation. And I got to 00:15:10.800 --> 00:15:15.680 say, for 25 bucks, this dock is a pretty 00:15:14.079 --> 00:15:18.800 decent value if you're getting this 00:15:15.680 --> 00:15:21.199 controller. I'm turning my RGB off and 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:24.240 I'm turning my gamer fingers on. Let's 00:15:21.199 --> 00:15:26.560 freaking play, boys. These rumble 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.160 triggers really do rumble. And the way 00:15:26.560 --> 00:15:31.199 that the trigger meets the plastic 00:15:28.160 --> 00:15:32.720 housing here, I find actually vibrates 00:15:31.199 --> 00:15:34.240 kind of uncomfortably. Like, it does 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:36.160 kind of give me that tingly feeling cuz 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:37.279 I'm half my finger is on the stationary 00:15:36.160 --> 00:15:40.079 plastic and the other piece is on the 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:42.720 rumbly piece. I actually wish that the 00:15:40.079 --> 00:15:44.160 trigger didn't go as far down into the 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:46.720 body because then I wouldn't have that 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:48.000 problem. It's not a big deal. Um, and I 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.920 think I would just adjust my grip 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.839 slightly, but it's enough that I want to 00:15:49.920 --> 00:15:53.759 continue turning down my trigger 00:15:51.839 --> 00:15:55.279 vibration. I've turned it down to 25% 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:57.199 and this feels much more comfortable for 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.120 me. It's still quite immersive uh on 00:15:57.199 --> 00:16:01.920 both triggers. The resistance also feels 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.880 very very good in this kind of game. I'm 00:16:01.920 --> 00:16:04.720 not going to use the competitive 00:16:02.880 --> 00:16:06.480 triggers, but the the action feels good, 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.480 the resistance is good, and then the 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:09.360 triggers just that extra little bit of 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.519 immersion. Okay, we're going to play 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.680 some Castlevania to test out this D-pad. 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.839 The verdict is in. D-pad not so great 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:18.320 for retro games. I think this kind of 00:16:15.839 --> 00:16:20.160 game is the best use of this kind of 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.600 controller because then you can set the 00:16:20.160 --> 00:16:24.800 competitive trigger so you can get the 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.320 faster response. I still prefer uh doing 00:16:24.800 --> 00:16:27.519 the competitive trigger for aim down the 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.959 sights and then full trigger for the 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.639 guns. Yeah, these sticks feel really 00:16:28.959 --> 00:16:32.800 good, really responsive. They're 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.320 whipping around pretty fast. I like my 00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:36.079 tension set to maximum. I like the 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:38.000 weight of the sticks. The back paddles 00:16:36.079 --> 00:16:39.680 feel really good. And I was wrong. I 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.839 actually think that these top bumper 00:16:39.680 --> 00:16:45.680 buttons are not as inaccessible as I 00:16:41.839 --> 00:16:47.759 first thought. I really like the Vader 5 00:16:45.680 --> 00:16:49.600 Pro. I think it's uh even better than I 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.279 expected. I think they've done a lot of 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:56.160 improvements since their last generation 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:59.040 of product. And the MSRP is $80 and you 00:16:56.160 --> 00:17:01.519 can often find it for around like $65, 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:05.520 $63. 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:07.679 That is a really good deal. Here comes 00:17:05.520 --> 00:17:11.439 the asterisk. 00:17:07.679 --> 00:17:13.199 This is the V2 of the 5 Pro. The V1 00:17:11.439 --> 00:17:14.559 doesn't have the ratcheting tension so 00:17:13.199 --> 00:17:16.720 that it can slip in the middle of a 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.079 game. You don't have the metal inards on 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:20.720 the back paddle, so those have been 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:23.679 known to break. And the centering spring 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:25.600 on the joysticks is not quite as good. 00:17:23.679 --> 00:17:27.439 And it's not really easy to identify 00:17:25.600 --> 00:17:29.679 online which version you're buying. If 00:17:27.439 --> 00:17:32.880 you look at the box, the model number 00:17:29.679 --> 00:17:36.240 here is GPC F50301. 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:38.160 If you have 50101, that's a version one. 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.840 301 is the second version. That's the 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.559 one you want. And I know that there's a 00:17:39.840 --> 00:17:45.280 lot of the original ones out there. It's 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:47.679 still going to be a good controller, but 00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:49.360 it makes me really hesitant to buy one 00:17:47.679 --> 00:17:50.640 online, especially if I'm buying it from 00:17:49.360 --> 00:17:52.400 a marketplace that's a little bit harder 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:54.400 to return. 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.039 That being said, it's hard to beat the 00:17:54.400 --> 00:18:00.320 value of $60ish, 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:01.919 even with this $25 add-on. That's a 00:18:00.320 --> 00:18:04.640 pretty freaking sweet ecosystem. And 00:18:01.919 --> 00:18:06.400 this is a really nice controller. I 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.880 think if you are really interested in 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.240 just the Joyad functionality, this is an 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:11.679 excellent option for the price. I think 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.280 it has the features that you need for 00:18:11.679 --> 00:18:14.640 competitive gaming for more immersive 00:18:13.280 --> 00:18:17.360 stuff. And I don't think that it's 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:19.600 necessarily worth the price up to the 00:18:17.360 --> 00:18:20.960 Apex. It's nearly double the sale price 00:18:19.600 --> 00:18:22.880 of this. And then you get the more 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:25.120 adaptive triggers. You get bigger 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.480 battery. You get a screen on your 00:18:25.120 --> 00:18:28.400 controller. Like, do you guys even want 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.960 that? So, I think that the Vader 5 Pro 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:32.720 sits at the sweet spot of exactly the 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.960 controller I want. If you can get the 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.799 exact one that you want, just like I'm 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.840 telling you exactly the next video, you 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.679 should watch. You should watch our 00:18:37.840 --> 00:18:41.520 unboxing of the Steam Controller video. 00:18:39.679 --> 00:18:44.240 Floop did a really good job. He He had a 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:47.039 lot of the same thoughts that I did, but 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.039 better.