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The Steam controller just came out and

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our biggest hang-up was the price. So,

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we're looking at a controller that

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sneaks in quite a bit under. And if

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you're only looking for that gamepad

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functionality, none of that trackpad

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nonsense, the Vader 5 Pro from Fry Digi

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might be a very interesting option for

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you. And for me, I'm uh at the point

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with my Cyclone 2 where I'm maybe

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considering a replacement. And this is

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at the top of my list for a number of

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reasons. The top of them being these

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adjustable tension joysticks. As we

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explored with the 4 era of Fly Digi's

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product in our 16-way controller

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roundup, these adjustable joystick

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tension thingies are faking sweet.

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Whether you like really light 40 g force

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or 100 g of force, you can kind of lock

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in the tension you want. And with the

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latest version of the Vader 5S Pro,

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these are actually ratcheting, so it's

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less likely for them to slip as you play

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and the tension to switch. Good sticks

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are important, but what about the rest

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of the controller? On the top, we have

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our Fly Digi button. That is actually a

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button this time, not just a logo. We

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have our start select. They're not

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called that anymore. Menu options. call

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it overlapping squares and three dots.

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>> On the top, we have our joysticks. We

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have our floating D-pad that is clicky

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and will do a fine job getting you

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through your menus. If you're planning

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on using this D-pad for precision

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controls, stop planning that

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immediately. This is not what that is

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designed for. Over here, we have four

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clicky mechanical buttons, which I have

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grown to really like clicky buttons on

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my controllers, as well as two extra

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buttons. So, if you're playing them Sega

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games or Xbox original games, you got

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actual face buttons. The click on these

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is actually quite different. It's

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substantially less satisfying. You can

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even hear it. Oh, yeah.

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But that's fine. These are things you

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can assign to extra controls. I don't

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think they're going to be primary

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inputs. So, just having the extra

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options is nice. Especially when you go

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to the top, there's extra little option

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bumpers here. Like the 8bit do 2C. We

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have three shoulder buttons on each

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side. We have our regular uh big boy

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bumpers with a textured plastic. And

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then we have our triggers that have a

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ton of features hidden inside. We'll get

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to shortly. And then we got these little

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clicky bumpers. I think just like the

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2C, they're a little bit far of a reach

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that I probably wouldn't use too too

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often, but in games where I'm like, I

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really wish I could assign one extra

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control. That is nice. And they feel

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pretty good. As do the bumpers. They

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don't feel even across the button over

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here. It's a much more satisfying click.

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Over here, I can feel the plastic doing

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sort of a lever thing before the

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mechanism actually activates. Still

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pretty good though. Would have no

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problems, especially the way I hold it.

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Like most my finger is on it anyway.

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Just like the triggers. And similar to

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other Fly Digi products, we actually

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have mechanical stops to make them the

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competitive style little hair triggers.

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And these are really satisfying. Do you

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hear that sound? Also on the top of note

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is our type-C charging port. You can

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also use this controller via wire. In

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terms of connectivity, there is a 2.4

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GHz dongle included. You can use

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Bluetooth. On the back, we got the uh

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trigger stops back here. We have

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pre-installed paddle buttons that are

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built into the controller. We have our

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two slots to add extra paddle buttons

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with attachments that are in the box.

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We'll actually do the real unboxing

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later. And then the two little buttons

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actually for the extra back paddles as

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well. And then we have our mode toggle.

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So we have dongle, Bluetooth, Nintendo

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Switch mode. It's important to note this

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won't work out of the box with a

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PlayStation or Xbox console. You can get

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adapters that do work with that, but by

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the time you buy those adapters, uh the

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value proposition of this controller is

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severely weakened. It's time to go out

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to our field reporter to find out if

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this controller connected to a Switch 2

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can turn it on just using the button.

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Switching this into Nintendo Switch

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mode.

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Holding the button.

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I need to be hitting the bumpers. Oh,

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nope. There we go. It's connected.

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Takes you back home, but it will not

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wake the console.

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Wow. Incredible. On the bottom, we have

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our function and turbo buttons. That's

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not stuff I'm in the habit of using, but

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I know some people are very passionate

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about those, so power to you. We also

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have our LED strip that will light up in

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desperate search of a dongle that is not

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plugged in right now. Of note, just like

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the Steam Controller, there is no

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headphone jack, which may or may not be

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a dealbreaker for you, but features are

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what features are, baby. Let's see how

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this feels in the hand. It feels like

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I'm holding a really much improved Xbox

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controller. It's got a similar uh grip

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style. You can kind of see in terms of

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the angle, but it has a more rubberized

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plastic, sort of like the Elite. I think

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people are going to be a little bit

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mixed on this. I don't like rubber on my

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controllers because that puts a counter

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down for when this controller will be

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absolutely disgusting and oily. That

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being said, today it feels really nice

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and really premium. We got the textured

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back, the textured bumpers and triggers.

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There's a different type of plastic here

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that has little speckles in it. So, I

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think that's a neat touch. Although, I

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don't think they go quite far enough to

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make it super two-toned. When I catch

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the light, it feels more different than

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it looks. In person, it kind of just

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looks like dark gray and dark gray with

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flex in it. I wish this had more

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contrast. I think that would make it pop

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more. That being said, that's as

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nitpicky as nitpicky gets, baby. I

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actually got too excited about this

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controller. We need to see what else is

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in the box. So, you get a nice little

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thick manual in many languages. You also

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get ads for other Vlad Digi controllers

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from the Doomf Fox all the way to the

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Apex 5. I want to cover both of those.

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Let us know in the comments which one

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you're more interested in me covering.

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We also have other products like a phone

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cooler and a laptop cooling pad. Also in

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the box is a 150 cm cable. Um that's

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just under 5 ft. It's not the cheapest

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cable I've ever felt. Uh it's rated for

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USB 3, which is nice. Pretty good

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housing. Will do the job. We also have

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our dongle. Regular ass dongle. is

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definitely not as cool as the Steam

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Controller one and it doesn't have the

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functionality of plugging into your

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cable or charging your controller, but

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that's fine. Last thing inside of this

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plastic is our extra rear paddles. They

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slide into the back here with a little

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satisfying click. And if you've been

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paying close attention to Fly Digi's

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latest controllers, you'll know that uh

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some of the early ones had really bad

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back paddles where they would break

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really bad. And you'll be glad to know

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that this is actually the V2 of the

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Vader 5 Pro and they fixed the part

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inside the controller that was just a

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little plastic loop uh that was

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breaking. So, it should be more

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reliable. Although, I do have comments

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about the fact that there's a V2 that

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it's hard to know about. We'll get to

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that later. Wow, that's actually

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surprisingly seamless. I was expecting

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it to feel like the difference in back

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paddle would be quite drastic, but they

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feel very connected to each other. Like

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there's a little bit of flex on the

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levered ones, but I'm getting a

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satisfying click. And if I needed four

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back paddles, this would be certainly

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adequate. Although, I would like that

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plastic a little stiffer. One thing that

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is slightly painfully missing when you

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compare it to something like the Cyclone

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2 is there's no included dock. Not the

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end of the world, uh, if it keeps the

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pricing more accessible. And the fact

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that there is an optional dock, uh, for

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$25 is pretty nice. Let's see how this

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thing is.

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White. White. The dock is very premium

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feeling compared to the packin one on

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this the Cyclone 2. I start to

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understand why they're charging more for

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it. It's got good weight, which is

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actually nice because the controller is

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going to sit nice and it's not really

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going to be in danger of falling over or

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disconnecting. There is no magnetic

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click, but the pins go in quite nicely.

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On the front, we have RGB array for cool

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RGB stuff. We have our charging pins and

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the controller mount. On the bottom, we

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have rubber feet so it doesn't slide as

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much. And then we get to the good stuff.

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We have our dongle USB slot. Uh, it's

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the right size for this so that you can

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actually use these ones. Uh, just like a

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USB dock. This type-C goes to your

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computer. So, you actually get two extra

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USB ports if you use the dock. I

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actually am more considering the stock

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than I thought I was going to at the

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beginning of this video, just like I'm

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really considering the upgrade to this

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Goku edition Vader 5 Pro. Uh, yes, you

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heard that right. This Vader 5 has

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freaking Dragon Ball Z branding all over

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it. Over here, we have the sort of silk

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screen outline of Super Saiyan Goku and

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then Super Saiyan in Japanese as well as

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more flames. These uh orange transparent

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triggers are really nice and they can

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let you see a little bit of the

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mechanism of the rumble triggers of the

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Vader 5 Pro. Very similar feel outside

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of the front plate. This feels really

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nice, premium. This feels sticky and

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cheap. It's actually cheap enough

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feeling that even though I really like

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some of the aesthetic choices on this, I

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think I'm going to stick with my base

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model. Let's plug it in and find out how

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>> We have our controllers plugged in via

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the dock. There's a lot of RGB going on.

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I don't know how I feel about that.

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Let's open up the Fly Digi software and

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see how it goes. Oh boy, we got some

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Chinese characters. That's not going to

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work for me. Okay, I can infer that this

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is profile 1 2 3 4. That's fine. We can

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set up more configurations if we want. I

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really only need the one. First off, we

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can reassign all our mappings. That's

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pretty cool. Um, especially for the back

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buttons where games might not have the

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ability to map that directly. You can

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kind of assign a specific input or a

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macro or something special. Next, we

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have our common settings which include

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the light, dynamic glow, breathing,

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gradient. We're not going to go through

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all these. We're going to turn it off

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for battery life. That is quite bright.

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It might not seem like it in a well-lit

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room, but that actually would uh need to

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go off for me because I don't want to be

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made aware of all of this when I'm

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playing games. You know, I want to be

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sucked into the screen. I play video

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games like it's the never- ending story.

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I also want to extend my battery life.

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This comes with a,000 milliamp hour

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battery, uh, which Flagy says is good

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for about 15 hours of game, but of

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course, if you're using tons of haptics

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or lights and stuff, that will go down

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slightly. 15 hours is okay, not great.

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My Steam controller did like 37. So, and

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that was at like full tilt haptics going

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all the time. It's okay. Next, we have

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our vibration. We can turn on or off

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vibration as well as the intensity. I

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want my fingers to tingle. That is a

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rumble motor. That is not haptics.

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That's not advanced stuff. That's fine.

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I think most people

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prefer the haptics, but this would be

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sufficient. Next, we have our buttons,

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which is just another way to remap.

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Then, we have our joystick. We can

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change our sensitivity curve. We can

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change our circularity algorithm. Um, if

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we want to have it be a rectangle where

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it's basically more forgiving about

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slightly being offaxis where you're

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trying to go forward or perfect circle.

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Uh, if you're using Hall effect or TMR

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sticks, usually you want the precision

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of the circle. But that being said, we

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haven't even talked about what

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technology is actually in these sticks.

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These are Hall effect sticks as well as

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Hall effect triggers. Now, Hall effect

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technology is better than

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potentiometerbased sticks like you have

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in all three of the first party

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controllers. However, we have entered

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the golden age of the tunnel

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magnettoresistance sticks which

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basically has the precision and long

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life of Hall effect with lower power

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draw. So, that might actually be part of

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why this has a pretty okay battery life

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is these Hall effect sticks while

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precise and should have a long life

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other than the centering spring maybe

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dying out or giving out on you.

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It's a shame that they haven't upgraded

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to TMR sticks uh in an era where they

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are getting cheaper and cheaper. Go back

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to our software. We can basically have

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our dead zone or offset. We are going to

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leave things at default. Then we have

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our gyro sensors. I also haven't talked

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about the freaking gyro in this. It's

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got six axis, baby. Yeah, more features

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than you can freaking handle. Uh I know

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not everyone's super into gyro aiming,

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but I am definitely coming around to it

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in the right games. Uh, basically what

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that means is you can still aim with the

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right stick, do your big macro

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movements, and then little micro

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adjustments with the gyro. Gives you

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extra precision. Pretty freaking sweet.

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Next, we have our trigger settings. And

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we can uh change these independently of

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the trigger, which is nice because

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sometimes you want one to be really,

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really quick, and so you want to

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optimize for around quickness and speed,

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and the other you want to be a little

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more immersive. Uh, or you can have them

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be the same. We can turn on and off the

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vibration of the triggers. Next, we can

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change the stroke setting, which

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basically means that like it'll get a

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positive press faster uh the more

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sensitive you set it. Then you can

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change your vibration intensity. I don't

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think there's a vibration test, which is

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fine, but I'm going to put my vibration

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intensity to 100. Next, we have our

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trigger amplitude, which seems to set

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the minimum maximum range for the

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trigger vibration intensity, as well as

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our vibration shielding value, which

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basically is like a dead zone for

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activating the trigger depending on the

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game. We're going to leave these at

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default and see how our games do.

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Starting with Forza Horizon 5. Let's

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actually switch back to wireless mode.

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Uh so we can comment on that wireless

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latency. Oh, I also need to turn off the

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lights on the dock. What are our dock

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settings? Light mode. Diagonal flow.

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It's kind of nice. You get a little

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preview on the screen. Okay. I'm a

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little more into this custom. Okay.

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Yeah, you can put like videos in. It

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doesn't look like you can upload videos.

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Let's see how this works. Apply to the

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device. The uh amount of RGBs is great

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for a controller dock, but it's not

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quite enough to have like a fullon uh

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story told through this thing. Right

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now, it's just like a beige to green.

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You can kind of tell Mike, but you can't

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really tell Linus. That's okay. We're

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just going to go with something uh I

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like to call off. In the software, we

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have four other options. One is

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intelligent start, which basically knows

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that the controller is plugged in and

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will turn off the animation and show

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charging. Uh we have lighting sync,

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which will keep the RGB of the dock and

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the controller connected. You can have

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it close when shut down, which basically

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turns off the RGB when the computer is

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off. Uh as well as you can change it to

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be a power display, so it'll show you uh

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how much the controller is charging with

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this cool little animation. And I got to

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say, for 25 bucks, this dock is a pretty

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decent value if you're getting this

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controller. I'm turning my RGB off and

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I'm turning my gamer fingers on. Let's

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freaking play, boys. These rumble

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triggers really do rumble. And the way

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that the trigger meets the plastic

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housing here, I find actually vibrates

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kind of uncomfortably. Like, it does

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kind of give me that tingly feeling cuz

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I'm half my finger is on the stationary

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plastic and the other piece is on the

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rumbly piece. I actually wish that the

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trigger didn't go as far down into the

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body because then I wouldn't have that

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problem. It's not a big deal. Um, and I

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think I would just adjust my grip

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slightly, but it's enough that I want to

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continue turning down my trigger

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vibration. I've turned it down to 25%

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and this feels much more comfortable for

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me. It's still quite immersive uh on

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both triggers. The resistance also feels

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very very good in this kind of game. I'm

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not going to use the competitive

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triggers, but the the action feels good,

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the resistance is good, and then the

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triggers just that extra little bit of

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immersion. Okay, we're going to play

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some Castlevania to test out this D-pad.

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The verdict is in. D-pad not so great

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for retro games. I think this kind of

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game is the best use of this kind of

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controller because then you can set the

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competitive trigger so you can get the

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faster response. I still prefer uh doing

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the competitive trigger for aim down the

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sights and then full trigger for the

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guns. Yeah, these sticks feel really

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good, really responsive. They're

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whipping around pretty fast. I like my

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tension set to maximum. I like the

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weight of the sticks. The back paddles

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feel really good. And I was wrong. I

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actually think that these top bumper

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buttons are not as inaccessible as I

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first thought. I really like the Vader 5

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Pro. I think it's uh even better than I

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expected. I think they've done a lot of

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improvements since their last generation

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of product. And the MSRP is $80 and you

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can often find it for around like $65,

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$63.

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That is a really good deal. Here comes

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the asterisk.

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This is the V2 of the 5 Pro. The V1

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doesn't have the ratcheting tension so

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that it can slip in the middle of a

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game. You don't have the metal inards on

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the back paddle, so those have been

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known to break. And the centering spring

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on the joysticks is not quite as good.

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And it's not really easy to identify

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online which version you're buying. If

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you look at the box, the model number

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here is GPC F50301.

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If you have 50101, that's a version one.

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301 is the second version. That's the

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one you want. And I know that there's a

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lot of the original ones out there. It's

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still going to be a good controller, but

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it makes me really hesitant to buy one

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online, especially if I'm buying it from

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a marketplace that's a little bit harder

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to return.

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That being said, it's hard to beat the

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value of $60ish,

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even with this $25 add-on. That's a

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pretty freaking sweet ecosystem. And

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this is a really nice controller. I

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think if you are really interested in

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just the Joyad functionality, this is an

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excellent option for the price. I think

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it has the features that you need for

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competitive gaming for more immersive

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stuff. And I don't think that it's

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necessarily worth the price up to the

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Apex. It's nearly double the sale price

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of this. And then you get the more

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adaptive triggers. You get bigger

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battery. You get a screen on your

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controller. Like, do you guys even want

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that? So, I think that the Vader 5 Pro

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sits at the sweet spot of exactly the

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controller I want. If you can get the

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exact one that you want, just like I'm

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telling you exactly the next video, you

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should watch. You should watch our

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unboxing of the Steam Controller video.

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Floop did a really good job. He He had a

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lot of the same thoughts that I did, but

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better.