WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.720 When I invested in Framework Computers 5 years ago, I thought, man, I hope it 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:11.040 helps this more sustainable and repairable laptop company get off the 00:00:08.639 --> 00:00:14.639 ground. But then I also thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool if I got to see all 00:00:13.040 --> 00:00:22.080 their new goodies before anyone else? And yet, here you are just 4 days before 00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:23.439 your biggest announcement ever. 4 days. 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:28.000 You're still seeing it before everyone else. >> I know. I know. I'm just mad you made me 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:34.239 wait so long, guys. I'm talking four new products. A Framework 13 Pro model that 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:36.640 uses LP Cam 2 memory for high speeds and 00:00:34.239 --> 00:00:41.280 easy upgrades. A refreshed, not to mention cheaper version of the Framework 00:00:38.800 --> 00:00:46.239 16 gaming laptop, a brand new expansion bay module that allows you to connect 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:48.399 any GPU to your laptop. And finally, a 00:00:46.239 --> 00:00:54.719 brand new product that raised my eyebrows right off my forehead. What do 00:00:52.559 --> 00:00:57.600 you have to say for yourself, mister? >> We're trying to fulfill our mission. 00:00:55.760 --> 00:01:00.879 What were you trying to hide from me leaving this till the last minute? Am I 00:00:59.120 --> 00:01:05.199 not your favorite investor anymore? >> You are in the top five. 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:09.040 >> That's just how many you have, isn't it? >> It's about five. >> Is it because the other ones have more 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:13.360 money? That's what it's about, isn't it? >> You want to take the checkbook at? 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That's because the new Framework 13 Pro is now in a new Pro 00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:14.959 chassis that, like the MacBook Pro, is made of CNC aluminum. It also has a 21% 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:18.000 bigger battery, 74 watt hours now, and 00:02:14.959 --> 00:02:20.400 new speaker modules. But wait, there's 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:29.040 more. It also comes with a higher resolution 2.8K display, WHICH 00:02:24.720 --> 00:02:31.360 IS FINALLY A TOUCHSCREEN. 00:02:29.040 --> 00:02:35.440 OKAY, about time. What the took so long? >> That is actually an ask that came from 00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:39.200 you. I remember 5 years ago you telling us we needed to have a touchcreen. Yeah, 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:44.560 >> it actually is that it took us this long to get to a stale where we could afford 00:02:41.760 --> 00:02:48.800 to build a fully custom from scratch panel. So, this is actually the first 00:02:46.480 --> 00:02:52.640 panel we built completely from a blank slate, which is actually a million plus 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:56.640 dollar investment to make. >> Wow. I mean, it looks great. What's the 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.959 peak brightness on this thing? >> This goes up to 700 net. We can actually 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:05.760 crank it up right here. No, no, it's already really bright. >> It is. 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:10.000 >> Dude, this is incredible. I'm honestly impressed. I did not know that this was 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:13.280 going to be a completely custom panel for you guys. Even the big boys. No 00:03:12.720 --> 00:03:19.519 offense. You're >> you're a big Well, you're bigger than me. >> Even the bigger laptop manufacturers 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:23.040 will often avoid the cost of a fully custom panel because unless you're 00:03:21.040 --> 00:03:27.360 operating at the scale of someone like an Apple. It's uh really hard to 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:31.120 guarantee that you're going to move the kind of volume to justify that initial 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.440 investment. >> Very bullish on this. 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:38.239 >> Absolutely. On the Pro >> and they should be because the final big 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:42.720 change to the Pro is the addition of an Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard. 00:03:40.640 --> 00:03:45.760 Now, you can still get the Ryzen AI300 series if you're into that sort of 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:51.840 thing, but the big difference with the Intel one is it comes with LP Cam 2 00:03:48.239 --> 00:03:53.680 memory and upgrades to PCIe Gen 5 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:58.480 support for the SSD, which means outstanding battery life, exemplary GPU 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:04.799 performance thanks to Panther Lake, and high performance RAM with no compromise 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:07.680 on upgradeable memory. Of course, the 00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:13.760 big question on people's minds is, can I take this Core Ultra 3 mainboard and put 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:14.959 it in my 5-year-old Framework 13 nonpro? 00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:20.320 >> You actually can't. So, we >> What? >> That's right. >> I thought he was setting up this 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:23.520 question. So, you had to be like, "Where there's a downside?" 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:26.560 >> Now, we maintained complete backwards and forwards compatibility on the main 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:32.880 board. So, you can actually take an old mainboard and drop it into the Pro chassis or take the new Intel Core Ultra 00:04:30.880 --> 00:04:38.560 Series 3 mainboard and put it into an original chassis. >> Elijah bamboozled me. He got the 00:04:36.080 --> 00:04:41.759 briefing and the next line says, "Okay, well, that's still way more than any 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:45.520 other laptop manufacturer." That's nuts. >> It took a lot of great engineering work. 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:50.800 We pulled it off. >> Wow. Genuinely impressed, man. This feels 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:54.639 like another Framework 16 moment where I'm just like, "Yeah, no offense, but I 00:04:52.960 --> 00:04:58.320 thought it'd be impossible. I never really believed in you, you know. 00:04:56.080 --> 00:05:01.120 >> Okay, thank you. >> Well, no, it's not cuz I didn't think 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:04.720 you were capable. I just thought your goals were too lofty. >> We are ambitious. We're an ambitious 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:10.000 company if nothing else. >> This is off script, but I want to talk about the display a little bit more. You 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:14.639 guys opted for a matte touchcreen, which is an unusual choice. 00:05:11.520 --> 00:05:16.880 >> This is unusual. So, we actually have a 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:20.160 pretty novel anti-glare polarizer here. So, we're indoors here, but if you 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:23.600 actually take this out into daylight, it is actually pretty good. Even pretty 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:28.720 high contrast in that world. Let's prove it. >> Are we going to go for a walk? 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:34.400 >> We've got the daylight, boys. Watch your head. Hey, I mean, watch your head. Eh, 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:39.360 >> now we're in Canada. I'm going straight into what is pretty much the most 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:44.240 challenging condition for a display. Oh, wow. That's right. It is really truly 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:48.400 anti-glare. That is the beauty of having the matte surface there. 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:53.759 >> Holy crap. That's pretty good. We turn it all the way down and you can actually 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.680 still see it a bit, which is pretty 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:59.520 crazy. Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but you know what it kind of 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:02.639 reminds me of is those um >> retrlective. 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.319 >> You can actually turn the backlight off entirely. You can see it's like mildly 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.680 retroreflective even just as a normal LCD. But of course, you can crank up the 00:06:08.080 --> 00:06:14.080 brightness and have it work normally. >> Like I can't see my cursor for but 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:17.759 like I mean even at like moderate brightness, this is usable. Yep, 00:06:15.919 --> 00:06:21.919 >> dude. I think my neck would burn before the screen would. Let's go back inside. 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:26.240 Another really cool thing that Framework is doing that many other laptop 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:30.000 companies are not is offering a build of the system with Ubuntu. They're actually 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:32.960 working directly with Canonicle to ensure that all the drivers and other 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:37.680 updates that you need for seamless operation are pre-installed. This is 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:41.680 remarkable because while lots of laptops support Linux, if you want something 00:06:39.919 --> 00:06:46.880 official, there aren't nearly as many options, making this an amazing gateway 00:06:43.919 --> 00:06:50.960 to a world without Microsoft, which I have to say that between our recent 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:55.280 Linux challenge and my more recent MacBook Neo challenge, I've actually 00:06:53.039 --> 00:06:58.720 been enjoying quite a lot. I've also been enjoying the Mac battery life 00:06:56.960 --> 00:07:02.960 experience. Please tell me it's competitive. Do we have one we can open? 00:07:00.880 --> 00:07:06.639 >> Uh, we can open up this one. But yeah, so this is actually a new expansion card 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:10.400 latch from the Framework Laptop 12. So from that like two-hand version to this 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:13.440 really simple single-hand version. >> I mean me, I prefer the two-hand 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:16.639 experience, if you know what I'm saying. But uh the Framework 13 Pro is no less 00:07:15.919 --> 00:07:21.520 of a man. >> Is that okay for this channel? We say things like that. 00:07:19.440 --> 00:07:24.400 >> We say whatever we damn well please. By the way, a nice hoodie. 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:32.319 >> Oh yeah, twinning. >> I should change 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:34.560 into our sick new Damn it. Moto T. How 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:41.039 cool is this? And it's even kind of on theme today. Time for your open heart 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:42.560 surgery, Mr. Johnson. Hold on. Oh, but 00:07:41.039 --> 00:07:48.240 what about the ribbon cable? >> It is right there. And you can plug it 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:53.759 >> while the computer is still running. Definitely recommended. >> Tell me how this bad boy performs. 00:07:51.440 --> 00:07:57.199 >> We've got a higher capacity and higher efficiency. So, actually, there are use 00:07:55.440 --> 00:08:01.840 cases where we're getting more than double the battery life of the last 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:06.960 generation Framework Laptop 13. So, for example, Netflix 4K streaming, which 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:11.440 often times many of us do, we go from about 8 hours on the last framework 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:15.199 laptop to about 20 hours on this generation. 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:18.960 The battery actually is physically bigger in two dimensions. So, you'll 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:22.160 need to bring along a new bottom cover and that new input cover to get the new 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:26.879 battery. Oh, let's talk about the new input cover. The final big change for 00:08:24.400 --> 00:08:31.120 the 13 Pro is the new input cover, which will have a new haptic touchpad, and a 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:36.399 better typing experience due to its CNCed frame. With all these changes, 00:08:33.760 --> 00:08:41.440 this thing could be a serious competitor to the MacBook Pro with its feel, style, 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:44.720 and performance, depending on one big thing, which I will find out after 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:47.600 showing off a cool new feature. There's a little spring pin that lifts this up 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:54.480 to make it easier to lift off the keyboard. Now, so nice. It's one banana, 00:08:50.560 --> 00:08:56.080 Michael. What could it cost? $10. It is 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.720 a little step up from the framework laptop 13. We actually are keeping that 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:06.000 original chassis available to be our new entry-level product. Obviously, adding a 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:10.560 touchscreen haptic touchpad, larger battery, full CNC chassis does add some 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:14.800 cost. The memory and storage market is so volatile right now. They actually 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:18.320 don't want to put a number NVIDIA. But one thing that we can commit to is that 00:09:16.560 --> 00:09:22.320 for anyone who is placing a pre-order for this product, whatever price they 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:25.600 see and place an order for is the price that they're going to pay for it. We're 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:29.519 not going to update prices on an order someone's already placed. 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:32.480 >> I hate that that qualifies as a good guy take these days. 00:09:30.640 --> 00:09:37.839 >> It's an okay guy take. Yeah. >> Moving on. Our next new laptop is less 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:42.720 of a new laptop and more of a midcycle refresh of the Framework 16. Starting 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:46.160 with the input modules, there's new singlepiece haptic track ports and 00:09:44.560 --> 00:09:49.920 keyboards. Now, if you remember from the original Framework 16, there were 00:09:47.920 --> 00:09:53.200 options to configure the inputs in a variety of ways depending on your 00:09:51.120 --> 00:10:00.480 preference. Well, this allows you to have a cleaner look. But the bigger 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:02.399 change is under the hood. A new Ryzen 5 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:07.440 version that should make this a great option for someone who wants a bigger 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:12.959 screen or a bigger trackpad or a dedicated GPU but doesn't want to pay 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:17.360 the topsp spec CPU tax. There's also a translucent bezel that perfectly matches 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:22.480 our carbon black translucent screwdriver. LTStore.com. And finally, 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:26.399 some cool developer projects. What am I looking at here? These are actually 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:30.079 input modules for framework laptop 16 that were made by developers in the 00:10:28.079 --> 00:10:33.519 community. So this is a MIDI keyboard made by a guy named Pit Stopte. And this 00:10:33.040 --> 00:10:39.360 is >> weird mother naming him that. >> Yeah. So this is a cool erggo keyboard 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:42.399 layout made by developer named Axel. So super awesome projects that drop right 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:48.079 into the 16 >> and a trackpad. This was actually our 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:50.320 design, our release. So this was a >> You should leave it to the developers in 00:10:49.839 --> 00:10:56.720 the community. >> I know they do a better job than we do. So, we got a lot of asks, of course, for 00:10:54.399 --> 00:11:01.360 that one piece touchpad row. So, we ended up actually releasing a 3D 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:04.480 printable design on GitHub last year and 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:06.320 then led that directly into this one 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:09.600 piece CNC aluminum design that we're actually going to be making for sale. 00:11:07.680 --> 00:11:12.320 >> Right. But how many seasons will this one piece have? 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:17.440 >> So, what? >> Don't worry about it. >> I'm too old or too young for that 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:20.800 reference. I'm not sure which. Since we're on the subject of the framework 00:11:18.800 --> 00:11:25.600 16, one of its biggest selling points is, of course, its upgradeable GPU 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:30.320 modules. But up until now, your upgrade options have been pretty limited. You've 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:36.880 got a small handful of GPUs or you've got uh well, nothing. But now there's 00:11:33.760 --> 00:11:40.240 more. There's the Oculink expansion bay. 00:11:36.880 --> 00:11:42.000 This will give you a single Oculink 8i 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:46.160 connection out the back of your laptop, which you could run into anything that 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:53.760 would take an Oculink 8i signal. Like say for example a fullsized freaking 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:56.480 desktop GPU which immediately raised 00:11:53.760 --> 00:12:01.279 tons of questions for me like why Oculink instead of Thunderbolt 5. 00:11:58.640 --> 00:12:04.880 Oculink gives you native PCIe out over that cable meaning you don't have 00:12:02.880 --> 00:12:09.920 protocol overhead and we actually used 8i rather than the more common Oculink 4 00:12:07.920 --> 00:12:15.760 interface which means we can actually get up to 128 Gbits per second of 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:19.040 birectional throughput. And that's a very valid reason. Actually, Tech 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:24.880 PowerUp wrote an article a couple of months ago talking about how Thunderbolt 00:12:20.800 --> 00:12:27.040 5 was anywhere from 16 to 36% 00:12:24.880 --> 00:12:34.000 worse for eGPU performance compared to Oculink. With that said, I do still 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:36.480 worry about some of Oculink's um missing 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:41.040 quality of life features like not being able to hot plug. Do you have a plan for 00:12:38.880 --> 00:12:45.519 that? This is why we are positioning this as an Oculink dev kit because we 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.720 know that this is not a general consumer solution like something like Thunderbolt 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:53.360 where everything is hot plug. >> And I mean I guess that's what the other 00:12:50.560 --> 00:12:55.760 six modular IO spots are for. >> Exactly. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:00.240 >> My other question is what does this mean for folks who want to run more than one 00:12:58.160 --> 00:13:04.000 PCIe card off of this slot? Because eight lanes is a lot. 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:08.000 >> Eight lanes is a lot, but that gets you 100 gigabit network cards. It gets you 00:13:06.079 --> 00:13:11.200 full DGPUs. There's a lot of great use cases for eight lanes, 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:14.240 >> right? But what if I wanted like like two cards in like one of those bay 00:13:13.680 --> 00:13:19.680 things? >> So, we actually have in this card 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:22.959 support for only Oculink 8i over a single interface. There is actually a 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:29.440 developer in the community who designed their own Oculink 8i board that supports 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:32.959 bifurcation into multiple uh interfaces. 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:35.040 >> Oh wow, that would be pretty cool. Uh, 00:13:32.959 --> 00:13:38.079 on the subject of expansion bays, um, some of you might have noticed 00:13:36.959 --> 00:13:42.880 >> they for Yeah. >> All right. Well, they have a new 10 gig Ethernet card for those who thought that 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:48.000 2 and 12 gig wasn't enough. >> We can play it as a joke. They brought so much stuff that we literally forgot 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:52.079 one of the products we're announcing. >> It's okay. It's better than forgetting something not on a plane. 00:13:50.160 --> 00:13:56.800 >> All right, let's uh, which brings us finally to the star of the show. Okay, 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:03.920 not the star of the show, but an odd choice, the framework keyboard. Can you 00:14:01.199 --> 00:14:07.199 explain why you guys felt the need to make this of all things? 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:12.240 >> It actually started with the framework desktop. So, we designed the desktop to 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:14.399 be a really convenient living room PC, a 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:18.079 server for home lab setups, even stuff like sim rigs. And we found as we were 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:22.320 using this both internally and starting to seating out that there was just no 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:26.800 keyboard that fit that scenario that we actually liked. I was going to say there 00:14:25.040 --> 00:14:30.800 are keyboards that fit that scenario and then you finished the sentence and I 00:14:28.959 --> 00:14:34.800 agree. I don't want to call out anybody specific. Elijah, he's handing me one 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:39.120 that I've spent more time than I'd like with. What makes this one different? 00:14:36.800 --> 00:14:42.800 >> This uses the same mechanical key structure and actually the same touchpad 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:47.199 architecture from the framework laptop 12. So, same great feel that we have 00:14:45.040 --> 00:14:51.839 across our laptop lineup. And it's got an ultra power efficient new radio from 00:14:49.920 --> 00:14:56.720 Nordic called the NRF54. So, battery life is awesome, too. All right. The 00:14:54.320 --> 00:15:02.160 coolest part though, I think, is actually this. The little dongle garage 00:15:00.079 --> 00:15:07.199 that they built for it so that I could permanently have the dongle installed in 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:11.040 my laptop. Not that I would normally use an outside keyboard with a laptop, but 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:14.399 actually I would want to use this for like my Logitech mouse receiver. 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:18.639 >> You could. It does fit in. >> Is it's a good fit? Okay, I'm going to try it cuz I actually have a new mouse 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:23.040 that I've been meaning to try. Okay, we haven't tested every dongle, so we're 00:15:20.880 --> 00:15:26.079 going to find out if this specific one does fit, >> man. Putting them on the spot. 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:29.600 >> Okay, here we go. Yeah, of course I'm putting them on the spot. That's what I do. >> That is the pressure test. 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:34.320 >> He knew what this was. >> Okay, that looks big. Yeah, actually, I 00:15:31.680 --> 00:15:38.399 don't know if that's going to Okay. I'm sure there's other Logitech products in 00:15:36.079 --> 00:15:41.920 the world that have different sized. >> You know what? It's not that bad. 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:46.320 >> Better. Yeah, it's better than it coming out the side. >> Uh I don't know if it comes out anymore, 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:50.000 though. M. Okay. This is the only There's only two of these in the world. 00:15:48.079 --> 00:15:53.279 So, >> well, I guess one of them's mine now cuz 00:15:51.680 --> 00:15:56.560 I'm not giving you my dongle for my new mouse. 00:15:55.600 --> 00:16:01.199 >> Oh, good. >> Do you want to make it a touch wider? 00:15:58.800 --> 00:16:03.759 >> Uh, it's a perfect fit for our dongle. >> All right. So, so what you're telling me 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.320 is the tooling is already done. >> The tooling is actually not done 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:10.800 technically. >> Can you make it a little bigger? >> I'll bring that to our industrial 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:15.199 designer. I'll blame you for the the change. >> Okay. To be clear, cuz like this one, 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:18.320 >> that's a great fit. is a great fit, but the more you can accommodate the better. 00:16:16.800 --> 00:16:22.800 You know, this seems like something that would be more of like a community project, but how cool would it be if 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.360 there was like you could kind of like have a slider to adjust the depth or 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:29.360 something like that, >> right? Thank you. 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.959 >> Bring that back to the team. >> On a desktop, it like doesn't matter. 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:35.680 But on a desktop, it also just doesn't matter if my dongle's sticking out the 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.720 front. So, this is really about the laptop. That's >> so you know, my suggestions are not that 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:43.279 stupid. >> Okay, we did do the touchcreen. 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:47.199 So, what you're telling me is in five years I can have a dongle garage that 00:16:45.920 --> 00:16:50.399 has an adjustable deck. >> Exactly. That's right. >> Remember, you're not the favorite 00:16:49.199 --> 00:16:53.920 investor. >> Top five. Top five. >> I know. It's because they have more 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:57.040 money. Coming back to the keyboard, the firmware is being fully open sourced for 00:16:55.839 --> 00:17:03.759 people who want to play around and have fun with it. It can store four different profiles and it can use either the 00:17:01.680 --> 00:17:09.600 dedicated dongle adapter or just plug the USB dongle directly into your system 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:12.160 or you can plug it in via USBC. Now, 00:17:09.600 --> 00:17:17.520 question for you, Nurav. Framework is probably best known for its 00:17:13.520 --> 00:17:20.559 repairability. How is a keyboard more 00:17:17.520 --> 00:17:22.559 repable or upgradeable? The battery is 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:26.559 actually replaceable just like it is on all of our products. Beyond that, there 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:29.919 is actually not that much you can repair on something like this, but we did make 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:33.760 it as open as we could. So, of course, the firmware is open source. We're 00:17:31.840 --> 00:17:37.840 releasing open source Surface CAD so you can 3D print your own accessories. And 00:17:35.760 --> 00:17:42.080 we're actually releasing the guts of the system, this control board to be its own 00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:46.480 dev board for people to make their own keyboards around. >> Oh, that's cool. If I spill a Coke in 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:50.640 like the touchpad, but my keyboard is fine. Can I buy a new trackpad from you? 00:17:48.320 --> 00:17:53.280 >> You at the moment cannot. If we start to see that happen a lot in the community, 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:58.160 that's something that we would look at. >> Acceptable. >> Everyone start spilling your drinks. 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:01.440 Well, I wouldn't actually tell people to do that on purpose, but uh let's move 00:18:00.080 --> 00:18:04.960 around to the front and I'll ask them the real hard-hitting questions. As 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:10.320 exciting as a keyboard is, the two categories that probably come up the 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:12.240 most from people are printer and TV. 00:18:10.320 --> 00:18:15.440 >> TV. Yes, those are the top two. >> And what can you tell the community 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.559 about those categories? >> We ran out of space on this table, so 00:18:17.280 --> 00:18:24.160 that's all the products we could build for this year. >> That is Wow. when he gets tired of 00:18:22.320 --> 00:18:27.679 running Framework. I'm pretty sure he's going into politics. Would you guys have 00:18:26.320 --> 00:18:32.799 any interest in exploring those categories because they seem like ones 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:35.039 where Framework's core values of 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:38.960 repairability and upgradability would be a huge enhancement. I mean, TV 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:43.840 manufacturers bring us a new TV every year that has more ads and less 00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:48.799 repairability than the one before with no way to meaningfully reuse any 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:55.760 components of it. That seems right up Framework's alley. And then printers. I 00:18:51.760 --> 00:18:57.600 mean, printers, right? You're 00:18:55.760 --> 00:19:01.520 right. So, even even the keyboard actually starts from consumer 00:18:59.840 --> 00:19:04.880 frustration. Like, we were frustrated. We looked down in the community. We know 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:08.320 people are frustrated by the only keyboard that's available in this 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:12.480 segment. And so, when we think about what products we want to build next, it 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:16.640 actually really does start from consumer frustration. But then we have to filter 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:20.240 it through, can we build that product? Do we have the supplier connections? Do 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:24.000 we have the R&D expertise and actually maybe most importantly the money? Do we 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:31.200 have the funding to be able to turn on the new category? >> I knew that was why he came here today. 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:32.160 >> Okay. I'm sorry to have to ask you, 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:37.600 but >> in happen to have any spare change that 00:19:35.679 --> 00:19:40.880 you could share. >> No, but I do have something pretty 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:44.559 exciting on our side that you might like. >> Oh, let's hear it. >> Yeah. I'm going to go get it. I'll be 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:48.640 right back. >> I have no I have no idea what he's 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:50.640 getting. I hope it's a giant pile of cash. 00:19:49.840 --> 00:19:54.880 >> He probably went all the way. >> He is gone. >> He went all the way to the other building. So 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:57.840 >> maybe he went to the bank. >> He went to the airport. 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:02.880 >> Oh, he's flying. >> He's flying to sell the jet to fund the 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:06.720 printer. >> Call it inspired by Framework's design 00:20:05.679 --> 00:20:10.960 ethos. >> Or maybe call it we were already aligned 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:14.880 in the first place. We're finally ready to start talking about a product that's 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.679 very exciting and coming soon at LT Store. And it's going to be 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:21.600 >> This looks cool. >> Our new battery bank. My original goal 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:25.120 was to have it so that you could completely resell it. C E L L. 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:32.480 >> Yeah. >> Once the batteries reached their end of life. There was no battery manufacturer 00:20:29.679 --> 00:20:36.720 on Earth who was willing to accept the liability of a design like that. But 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:41.840 we've reached what we think is going to be a good middle ground, and that is 00:20:39.360 --> 00:20:46.960 what we're calling battery mags. M. >> So, these are going to allow you once 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:52.720 you reach the end of life for yourselves to keep the control board, keep the 00:20:49.280 --> 00:20:54.799 chassis, and just swamp throw in a new 00:20:52.720 --> 00:21:00.000 battery pack. But wait, there's more. The best part is, you know, again, very 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:05.520 framework inspired upgradeable firmware. That's good. And reconfigurability. So 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:08.000 that in the event that let's say sodium 00:21:05.520 --> 00:21:12.320 ion were to make its way into the 18650 form factor in the future, which has 00:21:09.600 --> 00:21:17.039 benefits like being um a little more ecologically friendly, uh more stable 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:20.320 and better at lower temperatures, you'd be able to swap in a new battery 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:24.480 magazine or order it configured with that in the first place and take advantage of those better 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.120 characteristics. Or if there are future chemistries, we'd love to be able to 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.880 support them. >> This is awesome. The coolest part is 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:35.200 this mechanical interface, which is still kind of under development, but the 00:21:33.360 --> 00:21:38.000 goal here is to be able to equip it with different hats. 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:43.679 >> So, what you could do is you could build like a USBA breakout hat or an LED 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:47.360 flashlight hat, an expansion card hat, >> expansion card hat, benchtop power 00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:52.159 supply hat, whatever it is you want to build, you'd be able to clip it on and 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:56.559 then use the two USBCs that are there by default and adapt them to whatever you 00:21:53.679 --> 00:21:59.440 need. Uh, disassembly is with one screw. Very cool. 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:02.640 >> Hopefully someday soon. And now that I've shown it to him, they can't do a 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:06.559 battery bank before we do. >> Great. 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