1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,720 When I invested in Framework Computers 5 years ago, I thought, man, I hope it 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:11,040 helps this more sustainable and repairable laptop company get off the 3 00:00:08,639 --> 00:00:14,639 ground. But then I also thought, hey, wouldn't it be cool if I got to see all 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:22,080 their new goodies before anyone else? And yet, here you are just 4 days before 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,439 your biggest announcement ever. 4 days. 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:28,000 You're still seeing it before everyone else. >> I know. I know. I'm just mad you made me 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:34,239 wait so long, guys. I'm talking four new products. A Framework 13 Pro model that 8 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:36,640 uses LP Cam 2 memory for high speeds and 9 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:41,280 easy upgrades. A refreshed, not to mention cheaper version of the Framework 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:46,239 16 gaming laptop, a brand new expansion bay module that allows you to connect 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,399 any GPU to your laptop. And finally, a 12 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:54,719 brand new product that raised my eyebrows right off my forehead. What do 13 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:57,600 you have to say for yourself, mister? >> We're trying to fulfill our mission. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,879 What were you trying to hide from me leaving this till the last minute? Am I 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:05,199 not your favorite investor anymore? >> You are in the top five. 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:09,040 >> That's just how many you have, isn't it? >> It's about five. >> Is it because the other ones have more 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:13,360 money? That's what it's about, isn't it? >> You want to take the checkbook at? We can we can bump you up the list. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:19,600 >> You know what else we can bump up the list is this message from our sponsor, 19 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:22,080 Meter. Meter builds enterprise levels 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:26,000 from the ground up and they design and manufacture their own hardware. So, if 21 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:30,000 you're looking for reliable, scalable networking across multi-sight enterprise 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,320 environments, check out the link in the video description. 23 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:49,040 It's a keyboard. But before we talk about that, I want to 24 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:51,520 take a closer look at this. It looks 25 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:59,600 like a framework 13, smells like a framework 13, and it even 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:01,360 uh like a framework 13, but it feels 27 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:07,759 different. That's because the new Framework 13 Pro is now in a new Pro 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:14,959 chassis that, like the MacBook Pro, is made of CNC aluminum. It also has a 21% 29 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:18,000 bigger battery, 74 watt hours now, and 30 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:20,400 new speaker modules. But wait, there's 31 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:29,040 more. It also comes with a higher resolution 2.8K display, WHICH 32 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:31,360 IS FINALLY A TOUCHSCREEN. 33 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:35,440 OKAY, about time. What the took so long? >> That is actually an ask that came from 34 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,200 you. I remember 5 years ago you telling us we needed to have a touchcreen. Yeah, 35 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:44,560 >> it actually is that it took us this long to get to a stale where we could afford 36 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,800 to build a fully custom from scratch panel. So, this is actually the first 37 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,640 panel we built completely from a blank slate, which is actually a million plus 38 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,640 dollar investment to make. >> Wow. I mean, it looks great. What's the 39 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:00,959 peak brightness on this thing? >> This goes up to 700 net. We can actually 40 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:05,760 crank it up right here. No, no, it's already really bright. >> It is. 41 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:10,000 >> Dude, this is incredible. I'm honestly impressed. I did not know that this was 42 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:13,280 going to be a completely custom panel for you guys. Even the big boys. No 43 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:19,519 offense. You're >> you're a big Well, you're bigger than me. >> Even the bigger laptop manufacturers 44 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:23,040 will often avoid the cost of a fully custom panel because unless you're 45 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:27,360 operating at the scale of someone like an Apple. It's uh really hard to 46 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,120 guarantee that you're going to move the kind of volume to justify that initial 47 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,440 investment. >> Very bullish on this. 48 00:03:32,319 --> 00:03:38,239 >> Absolutely. On the Pro >> and they should be because the final big 49 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:42,720 change to the Pro is the addition of an Intel Core Ultra Series 3 mainboard. 50 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Now, you can still get the Ryzen AI300 series if you're into that sort of 51 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:51,840 thing, but the big difference with the Intel one is it comes with LP Cam 2 52 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:53,680 memory and upgrades to PCIe Gen 5 53 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:58,480 support for the SSD, which means outstanding battery life, exemplary GPU 54 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:04,799 performance thanks to Panther Lake, and high performance RAM with no compromise 55 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:07,680 on upgradeable memory. Of course, the 56 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:13,760 big question on people's minds is, can I take this Core Ultra 3 mainboard and put 57 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:14,959 it in my 5-year-old Framework 13 nonpro? 58 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:20,320 >> You actually can't. So, we >> What? >> That's right. >> I thought he was setting up this 59 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,520 question. So, you had to be like, "Where there's a downside?" 60 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,560 >> Now, we maintained complete backwards and forwards compatibility on the main 61 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:32,880 board. So, you can actually take an old mainboard and drop it into the Pro chassis or take the new Intel Core Ultra 62 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Series 3 mainboard and put it into an original chassis. >> Elijah bamboozled me. He got the 63 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:41,759 briefing and the next line says, "Okay, well, that's still way more than any 64 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,520 other laptop manufacturer." That's nuts. >> It took a lot of great engineering work. 65 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:50,800 We pulled it off. >> Wow. Genuinely impressed, man. This feels 66 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:54,639 like another Framework 16 moment where I'm just like, "Yeah, no offense, but I 67 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,320 thought it'd be impossible. I never really believed in you, you know. 68 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,120 >> Okay, thank you. >> Well, no, it's not cuz I didn't think 69 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:04,720 you were capable. I just thought your goals were too lofty. >> We are ambitious. We're an ambitious 70 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:10,000 company if nothing else. >> This is off script, but I want to talk about the display a little bit more. You 71 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,639 guys opted for a matte touchcreen, which is an unusual choice. 72 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,880 >> This is unusual. So, we actually have a 73 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:20,160 pretty novel anti-glare polarizer here. So, we're indoors here, but if you 74 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,600 actually take this out into daylight, it is actually pretty good. Even pretty 75 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:28,720 high contrast in that world. Let's prove it. >> Are we going to go for a walk? 76 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:34,400 >> We've got the daylight, boys. Watch your head. Hey, I mean, watch your head. Eh, 77 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:39,360 >> now we're in Canada. I'm going straight into what is pretty much the most 78 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:44,240 challenging condition for a display. Oh, wow. That's right. It is really truly 79 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:48,400 anti-glare. That is the beauty of having the matte surface there. 80 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:53,759 >> Holy crap. That's pretty good. We turn it all the way down and you can actually 81 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,680 still see it a bit, which is pretty 82 00:05:53,759 --> 00:05:59,520 crazy. Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but you know what it kind of 83 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:02,639 reminds me of is those um >> retrlective. 84 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,319 >> You can actually turn the backlight off entirely. You can see it's like mildly 85 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:09,680 retroreflective even just as a normal LCD. But of course, you can crank up the 86 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,080 brightness and have it work normally. >> Like I can't see my cursor for but 87 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,759 like I mean even at like moderate brightness, this is usable. Yep, 88 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:21,919 >> dude. I think my neck would burn before the screen would. Let's go back inside. 89 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Another really cool thing that Framework is doing that many other laptop 90 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:30,000 companies are not is offering a build of the system with Ubuntu. They're actually 91 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,960 working directly with Canonicle to ensure that all the drivers and other 92 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:37,680 updates that you need for seamless operation are pre-installed. This is 93 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:41,680 remarkable because while lots of laptops support Linux, if you want something 94 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:46,880 official, there aren't nearly as many options, making this an amazing gateway 95 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:50,960 to a world without Microsoft, which I have to say that between our recent 96 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:55,280 Linux challenge and my more recent MacBook Neo challenge, I've actually 97 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:58,720 been enjoying quite a lot. I've also been enjoying the Mac battery life 98 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,960 experience. Please tell me it's competitive. Do we have one we can open? 99 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:06,639 >> Uh, we can open up this one. But yeah, so this is actually a new expansion card 100 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:10,400 latch from the Framework Laptop 12. So from that like two-hand version to this 101 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,440 really simple single-hand version. >> I mean me, I prefer the two-hand 102 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,639 experience, if you know what I'm saying. But uh the Framework 13 Pro is no less 103 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:21,520 of a man. >> Is that okay for this channel? We say things like that. 104 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,400 >> We say whatever we damn well please. By the way, a nice hoodie. 105 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:32,319 >> Oh yeah, twinning. >> I should change 106 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:34,560 into our sick new Damn it. Moto T. How 107 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:41,039 cool is this? And it's even kind of on theme today. Time for your open heart 108 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,560 surgery, Mr. Johnson. Hold on. Oh, but 109 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:48,240 what about the ribbon cable? >> It is right there. And you can plug it 110 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,759 >> while the computer is still running. Definitely recommended. >> Tell me how this bad boy performs. 111 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,199 >> We've got a higher capacity and higher efficiency. So, actually, there are use 112 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:01,840 cases where we're getting more than double the battery life of the last 113 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:06,960 generation Framework Laptop 13. So, for example, Netflix 4K streaming, which 114 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:11,440 often times many of us do, we go from about 8 hours on the last framework 115 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:15,199 laptop to about 20 hours on this generation. 116 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,960 The battery actually is physically bigger in two dimensions. So, you'll 117 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:22,160 need to bring along a new bottom cover and that new input cover to get the new 118 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:26,879 battery. Oh, let's talk about the new input cover. The final big change for 119 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:31,120 the 13 Pro is the new input cover, which will have a new haptic touchpad, and a 120 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:36,399 better typing experience due to its CNCed frame. With all these changes, 121 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:41,440 this thing could be a serious competitor to the MacBook Pro with its feel, style, 122 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:44,720 and performance, depending on one big thing, which I will find out after 123 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,600 showing off a cool new feature. There's a little spring pin that lifts this up 124 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:54,480 to make it easier to lift off the keyboard. Now, so nice. It's one banana, 125 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:56,080 Michael. What could it cost? $10. It is 126 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:00,720 a little step up from the framework laptop 13. We actually are keeping that 127 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:06,000 original chassis available to be our new entry-level product. Obviously, adding a 128 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:10,560 touchscreen haptic touchpad, larger battery, full CNC chassis does add some 129 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:14,800 cost. The memory and storage market is so volatile right now. They actually 130 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,320 don't want to put a number NVIDIA. But one thing that we can commit to is that 131 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,320 for anyone who is placing a pre-order for this product, whatever price they 132 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,600 see and place an order for is the price that they're going to pay for it. We're 133 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:29,519 not going to update prices on an order someone's already placed. 134 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,480 >> I hate that that qualifies as a good guy take these days. 135 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:37,839 >> It's an okay guy take. Yeah. >> Moving on. Our next new laptop is less 136 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:42,720 of a new laptop and more of a midcycle refresh of the Framework 16. Starting 137 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:46,160 with the input modules, there's new singlepiece haptic track ports and 138 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:49,920 keyboards. Now, if you remember from the original Framework 16, there were 139 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,200 options to configure the inputs in a variety of ways depending on your 140 00:09:51,120 --> 00:10:00,480 preference. Well, this allows you to have a cleaner look. But the bigger 141 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:02,399 change is under the hood. A new Ryzen 5 142 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:07,440 version that should make this a great option for someone who wants a bigger 143 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:12,959 screen or a bigger trackpad or a dedicated GPU but doesn't want to pay 144 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:17,360 the topsp spec CPU tax. There's also a translucent bezel that perfectly matches 145 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:22,480 our carbon black translucent screwdriver. LTStore.com. And finally, 146 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:26,399 some cool developer projects. What am I looking at here? These are actually 147 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:30,079 input modules for framework laptop 16 that were made by developers in the 148 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:33,519 community. So this is a MIDI keyboard made by a guy named Pit Stopte. And this 149 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:39,360 is >> weird mother naming him that. >> Yeah. So this is a cool erggo keyboard 150 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:42,399 layout made by developer named Axel. So super awesome projects that drop right 151 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:48,079 into the 16 >> and a trackpad. This was actually our 152 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,320 design, our release. So this was a >> You should leave it to the developers in 153 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:56,720 the community. >> I know they do a better job than we do. So, we got a lot of asks, of course, for 154 00:10:54,399 --> 00:11:01,360 that one piece touchpad row. So, we ended up actually releasing a 3D 155 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:04,480 printable design on GitHub last year and 156 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:06,320 then led that directly into this one 157 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,600 piece CNC aluminum design that we're actually going to be making for sale. 158 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:12,320 >> Right. But how many seasons will this one piece have? 159 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,440 >> So, what? >> Don't worry about it. >> I'm too old or too young for that 160 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,800 reference. I'm not sure which. Since we're on the subject of the framework 161 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:25,600 16, one of its biggest selling points is, of course, its upgradeable GPU 162 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:30,320 modules. But up until now, your upgrade options have been pretty limited. You've 163 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:36,880 got a small handful of GPUs or you've got uh well, nothing. But now there's 164 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:40,240 more. There's the Oculink expansion bay. 165 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,000 This will give you a single Oculink 8i 166 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:46,160 connection out the back of your laptop, which you could run into anything that 167 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:53,760 would take an Oculink 8i signal. Like say for example a fullsized freaking 168 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:56,480 desktop GPU which immediately raised 169 00:11:53,760 --> 00:12:01,279 tons of questions for me like why Oculink instead of Thunderbolt 5. 170 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Oculink gives you native PCIe out over that cable meaning you don't have 171 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:09,920 protocol overhead and we actually used 8i rather than the more common Oculink 4 172 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:15,760 interface which means we can actually get up to 128 Gbits per second of 173 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:19,040 birectional throughput. And that's a very valid reason. Actually, Tech 174 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:24,880 PowerUp wrote an article a couple of months ago talking about how Thunderbolt 175 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:27,040 5 was anywhere from 16 to 36% 176 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:34,000 worse for eGPU performance compared to Oculink. With that said, I do still 177 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:36,480 worry about some of Oculink's um missing 178 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:41,040 quality of life features like not being able to hot plug. Do you have a plan for 179 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:45,519 that? This is why we are positioning this as an Oculink dev kit because we 180 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,720 know that this is not a general consumer solution like something like Thunderbolt 181 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:53,360 where everything is hot plug. >> And I mean I guess that's what the other 182 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:55,760 six modular IO spots are for. >> Exactly. 183 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,240 >> My other question is what does this mean for folks who want to run more than one 184 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:04,000 PCIe card off of this slot? Because eight lanes is a lot. 185 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:08,000 >> Eight lanes is a lot, but that gets you 100 gigabit network cards. It gets you 186 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:11,200 full DGPUs. There's a lot of great use cases for eight lanes, 187 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:14,240 >> right? But what if I wanted like like two cards in like one of those bay 188 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:19,680 things? >> So, we actually have in this card 189 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,959 support for only Oculink 8i over a single interface. There is actually a 190 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:29,440 developer in the community who designed their own Oculink 8i board that supports 191 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:32,959 bifurcation into multiple uh interfaces. 192 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:35,040 >> Oh wow, that would be pretty cool. Uh, 193 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:38,079 on the subject of expansion bays, um, some of you might have noticed 194 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:42,880 >> they for Yeah. >> All right. Well, they have a new 10 gig Ethernet card for those who thought that 195 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:48,000 2 and 12 gig wasn't enough. >> We can play it as a joke. They brought so much stuff that we literally forgot 196 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,079 one of the products we're announcing. >> It's okay. It's better than forgetting something not on a plane. 197 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:56,800 >> All right, let's uh, which brings us finally to the star of the show. Okay, 198 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:03,920 not the star of the show, but an odd choice, the framework keyboard. Can you 199 00:14:01,199 --> 00:14:07,199 explain why you guys felt the need to make this of all things? 200 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:12,240 >> It actually started with the framework desktop. So, we designed the desktop to 201 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,399 be a really convenient living room PC, a 202 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:18,079 server for home lab setups, even stuff like sim rigs. And we found as we were 203 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:22,320 using this both internally and starting to seating out that there was just no 204 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:26,800 keyboard that fit that scenario that we actually liked. I was going to say there 205 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,800 are keyboards that fit that scenario and then you finished the sentence and I 206 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:34,800 agree. I don't want to call out anybody specific. Elijah, he's handing me one 207 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:39,120 that I've spent more time than I'd like with. What makes this one different? 208 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:42,800 >> This uses the same mechanical key structure and actually the same touchpad 209 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:47,199 architecture from the framework laptop 12. So, same great feel that we have 210 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:51,839 across our laptop lineup. And it's got an ultra power efficient new radio from 211 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Nordic called the NRF54. So, battery life is awesome, too. All right. The 212 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:02,160 coolest part though, I think, is actually this. The little dongle garage 213 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:07,199 that they built for it so that I could permanently have the dongle installed in 214 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:11,040 my laptop. Not that I would normally use an outside keyboard with a laptop, but 215 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,399 actually I would want to use this for like my Logitech mouse receiver. 216 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,639 >> You could. It does fit in. >> Is it's a good fit? Okay, I'm going to try it cuz I actually have a new mouse 217 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:23,040 that I've been meaning to try. Okay, we haven't tested every dongle, so we're 218 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:26,079 going to find out if this specific one does fit, >> man. Putting them on the spot. 219 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,600 >> Okay, here we go. Yeah, of course I'm putting them on the spot. That's what I do. >> That is the pressure test. 220 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,320 >> He knew what this was. >> Okay, that looks big. Yeah, actually, I 221 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:38,399 don't know if that's going to Okay. I'm sure there's other Logitech products in 222 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:41,920 the world that have different sized. >> You know what? It's not that bad. 223 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,320 >> Better. Yeah, it's better than it coming out the side. >> Uh I don't know if it comes out anymore, 224 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:50,000 though. M. Okay. This is the only There's only two of these in the world. 225 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:53,279 So, >> well, I guess one of them's mine now cuz 226 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,560 I'm not giving you my dongle for my new mouse. 227 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,199 >> Oh, good. >> Do you want to make it a touch wider? 228 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,759 >> Uh, it's a perfect fit for our dongle. >> All right. So, so what you're telling me 229 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,320 is the tooling is already done. >> The tooling is actually not done 230 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,800 technically. >> Can you make it a little bigger? >> I'll bring that to our industrial 231 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:15,199 designer. I'll blame you for the the change. >> Okay. To be clear, cuz like this one, 232 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,320 >> that's a great fit. is a great fit, but the more you can accommodate the better. 233 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,800 You know, this seems like something that would be more of like a community project, but how cool would it be if 234 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,360 there was like you could kind of like have a slider to adjust the depth or 235 00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:29,360 something like that, >> right? Thank you. 236 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,959 >> Bring that back to the team. >> On a desktop, it like doesn't matter. 237 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:35,680 But on a desktop, it also just doesn't matter if my dongle's sticking out the 238 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:38,720 front. So, this is really about the laptop. That's >> so you know, my suggestions are not that 239 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,279 stupid. >> Okay, we did do the touchcreen. 240 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:47,199 So, what you're telling me is in five years I can have a dongle garage that 241 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,399 has an adjustable deck. >> Exactly. That's right. >> Remember, you're not the favorite 242 00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:53,920 investor. >> Top five. Top five. >> I know. It's because they have more 243 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:57,040 money. Coming back to the keyboard, the firmware is being fully open sourced for 244 00:16:55,839 --> 00:17:03,759 people who want to play around and have fun with it. It can store four different profiles and it can use either the 245 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:09,600 dedicated dongle adapter or just plug the USB dongle directly into your system 246 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:12,160 or you can plug it in via USBC. Now, 247 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:17,520 question for you, Nurav. Framework is probably best known for its 248 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:20,559 repairability. How is a keyboard more 249 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,559 repable or upgradeable? The battery is 250 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:26,559 actually replaceable just like it is on all of our products. Beyond that, there 251 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,919 is actually not that much you can repair on something like this, but we did make 252 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,760 it as open as we could. So, of course, the firmware is open source. We're 253 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:37,840 releasing open source Surface CAD so you can 3D print your own accessories. And 254 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:42,080 we're actually releasing the guts of the system, this control board to be its own 255 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:46,480 dev board for people to make their own keyboards around. >> Oh, that's cool. If I spill a Coke in 256 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,640 like the touchpad, but my keyboard is fine. Can I buy a new trackpad from you? 257 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,280 >> You at the moment cannot. If we start to see that happen a lot in the community, 258 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:58,160 that's something that we would look at. >> Acceptable. >> Everyone start spilling your drinks. 259 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:01,440 Well, I wouldn't actually tell people to do that on purpose, but uh let's move 260 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,960 around to the front and I'll ask them the real hard-hitting questions. As 261 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:10,320 exciting as a keyboard is, the two categories that probably come up the 262 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,240 most from people are printer and TV. 263 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,440 >> TV. Yes, those are the top two. >> And what can you tell the community 264 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,559 about those categories? >> We ran out of space on this table, so 265 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:24,160 that's all the products we could build for this year. >> That is Wow. when he gets tired of 266 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,679 running Framework. I'm pretty sure he's going into politics. Would you guys have 267 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,799 any interest in exploring those categories because they seem like ones 268 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,039 where Framework's core values of 269 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:38,960 repairability and upgradability would be a huge enhancement. I mean, TV 270 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:43,840 manufacturers bring us a new TV every year that has more ads and less 271 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:48,799 repairability than the one before with no way to meaningfully reuse any 272 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:55,760 components of it. That seems right up Framework's alley. And then printers. I 273 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,600 mean, printers, right? You're 274 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,520 right. So, even even the keyboard actually starts from consumer 275 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,880 frustration. Like, we were frustrated. We looked down in the community. We know 276 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,320 people are frustrated by the only keyboard that's available in this 277 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:12,480 segment. And so, when we think about what products we want to build next, it 278 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:16,640 actually really does start from consumer frustration. But then we have to filter 279 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:20,240 it through, can we build that product? Do we have the supplier connections? Do 280 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,000 we have the R&D expertise and actually maybe most importantly the money? Do we 281 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:31,200 have the funding to be able to turn on the new category? >> I knew that was why he came here today. 282 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,160 >> Okay. I'm sorry to have to ask you, 283 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,600 but >> in happen to have any spare change that 284 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:40,880 you could share. >> No, but I do have something pretty 285 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:44,559 exciting on our side that you might like. >> Oh, let's hear it. >> Yeah. I'm going to go get it. I'll be 286 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,640 right back. >> I have no I have no idea what he's 287 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,640 getting. I hope it's a giant pile of cash. 288 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,880 >> He probably went all the way. >> He is gone. >> He went all the way to the other building. So 289 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:57,840 >> maybe he went to the bank. >> He went to the airport. 290 00:19:56,799 --> 00:20:02,880 >> Oh, he's flying. >> He's flying to sell the jet to fund the 291 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:06,720 printer. >> Call it inspired by Framework's design 292 00:20:05,679 --> 00:20:10,960 ethos. >> Or maybe call it we were already aligned 293 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,880 in the first place. We're finally ready to start talking about a product that's 294 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,679 very exciting and coming soon at LT Store. And it's going to be 295 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,600 >> This looks cool. >> Our new battery bank. My original goal 296 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,120 was to have it so that you could completely resell it. C E L L. 297 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:32,480 >> Yeah. >> Once the batteries reached their end of life. There was no battery manufacturer 298 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:36,720 on Earth who was willing to accept the liability of a design like that. But 299 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:41,840 we've reached what we think is going to be a good middle ground, and that is 300 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:46,960 what we're calling battery mags. M. >> So, these are going to allow you once 301 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:52,720 you reach the end of life for yourselves to keep the control board, keep the 302 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,799 chassis, and just swamp throw in a new 303 00:20:52,720 --> 00:21:00,000 battery pack. But wait, there's more. The best part is, you know, again, very 304 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:05,520 framework inspired upgradeable firmware. That's good. And reconfigurability. So 305 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:08,000 that in the event that let's say sodium 306 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:12,320 ion were to make its way into the 18650 form factor in the future, which has 307 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:17,039 benefits like being um a little more ecologically friendly, uh more stable 308 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:20,320 and better at lower temperatures, you'd be able to swap in a new battery 309 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,480 magazine or order it configured with that in the first place and take advantage of those better 310 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,120 characteristics. Or if there are future chemistries, we'd love to be able to 311 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,880 support them. >> This is awesome. The coolest part is 312 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,200 this mechanical interface, which is still kind of under development, but the 313 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:38,000 goal here is to be able to equip it with different hats. 314 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:43,679 >> So, what you could do is you could build like a USBA breakout hat or an LED 315 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:47,360 flashlight hat, an expansion card hat, >> expansion card hat, benchtop power 316 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:52,159 supply hat, whatever it is you want to build, you'd be able to clip it on and 317 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:56,559 then use the two USBCs that are there by default and adapt them to whatever you 318 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:59,440 need. Uh, disassembly is with one screw. Very cool. 319 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,640 >> Hopefully someday soon. And now that I've shown it to him, they can't do a 320 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,559 battery bank before we do. >> Great. 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