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This is the ROG RTX5090 Astral, one of,

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if not the fastest graphics cards on the

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planet. You could fit so much FPS in

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this bad girl. But even gaming on topofthe-line hardware like this, and

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ignoring that you basically need to be the Sultan of Brunai to get one, feels

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like every new game that comes out has terrible performance. So to get the

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frames we want, we had to find another way. Hi. Oh jeez, I didn't see you

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there. Just kidding. You're huge. For

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the uninitiated, Splave holds the number one all-time spot on the hardwarebot

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overclocking leaderboard, holds countless overclocking world records,

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and build some of the world's fastest computers over at Splave PC. And he's

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going to show us how to take this pile of parts and make it even faster than it

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would otherwise be pretty much step by step. So, if you happen to have an

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$8,000 computer at home, you can follow right

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along. But seriously, you might want to because the same principles we're using

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today should apply to pretty much any modern build. And when we're done, not

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only will our machine be faster, it will also probably draw less power. I mean,

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probably, right? Like, do we know that for sure? 890 W. Holy. In case it

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doesn't though, our friends at CSIC sponsored this video and sent over their

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very best power supply unit, the Prime Titanium 1600 watt, which literally can

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handle two RTX 5090s. Looks so small

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when he holds it. That's what she said.

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It's going to be that kind of video. All

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right, we have kind of an order of operations for our builds, but I'm going

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to play follow the leader today. So, what do you want to start with? Uh, I

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usually start with the motherboard. Okay, everyone has the same order of operations. The ASRock X870E Taichi was

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your choice. Can you walk us through why this is your preferred motherboard for

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tuning? The BIOS is very in-depth and

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there's lots of options that we can play with. I couldn't help noticing none of

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what you said really over overlapped with the main selling points that motherboard manufacturers focus on.

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Like, oh, we have lightning gaming USB and a fancy thing for releasing your

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PCIe cards. You're just more of a nuts

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and bolt kind of guy. I do like this thing. Oh, that's a really quick M.2

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heat sink release. Yeah. Other than that, no. I like the overclocking stuff.

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So really, you chose this motherboard the same way that other influencers

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choose their motherboards, the most expensive one. Man knows what he likes.

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Let's explain our choice of CPU. We went with the 9800 X3D because they're all 3D

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cores and there's no games we have to play with clocking. The 3D core is

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different than the regular cores. Just to be clear, when he says there's no games we'll have to play to do that, he

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doesn't mean video games that don't require that thing. Yeah, we don't have

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to fool around with it. I forgot we're installing a contact frame. And I could

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explain why we're doing that, but I'll let Alan do it. So, I like the contact frame because we've seen better memory

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overclocking with using the contact frame over the stock one. Hey, has

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anyone actually set you up with one of these yet? No. Seriously, you came out

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and collabed with us before and we never got you a screwdriver? Look at the

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backpack on the floor, silly. You can't you can't give this man the commuter

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bag. Like, look at this. He's like a little uh school girl. Yeah. What the

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what the We got to get him the fulls size bag, Jake. Coming back to memory, I

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was a little surprised to see that you really don't with higher speed memory.

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This is still DDR56000. It just runs at extremely

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tight latencies. So, is this the ideal?

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Yeah, because you want to keep the memory controller in like a 1 one sync

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for latency on AMD currently. And that's around maybe 6,800 on a really, really

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good sample. And a highly binned kit like this, realistically you can play

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around with it a little bit. If you want a little bit higher latencies and higher

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clock speeds, you can do that because these are just golden dies essentially.

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Now, Techbot did a piece recently and they found that DDR5 8000 could actually

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outperform DDR5 6000. And that's in spite of the fact that the memory

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controller runs at half the speed once you go above 6,000. But with Allen's

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help, we should be able to take that memory controller and boost it above

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6,000, getting overall better performance. So, you're thinking sweet

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spot 6400 CL28. Yeah, around there.

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Let's put in an SSD. We chose this because it holds data. It's a Rocket 5.

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Those are fast. Yeah, it's fast. It's a rocket. Look at it go. Oh god. For our

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case, we went for the fractal torrent, which is built for torrents of air

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running through it. Okay, there's all your fresh air for the GPU right there.

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Honeycomb mesh at the back, top-mounted power supply, and nothing but airflow at

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the front. I'm just disappointed we didn't get to use one of the coolest

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features of this case, these 180x 38 mm

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fans that would normally be in the front, but we're going to have an AIO

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liquid cooler. So, they go over there. For our good enough AIO cooler, we've

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gone with the Lumen S36 RGB. And we chose it because Fractal's nice. Fractal

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is nice. All right, Jake knows why we chose it. It's because it is a

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nonasitech design, so you're not bound to their sort of patented how everyone

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else does it design. The pump is actually embedded in the radiator, which

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detracts from cooling less than you would probably think because that's

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right where the fan hub is, right? You weren't getting any air flow there

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anyway. It also looks nice, just like Fractal is. Oh, and we scratched it.

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Let's have you talk about your thermal paste while I mount this stupid radiator. We're using Splave's own

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thermal paste. Splave one is my thermal paste and it's very metallic, so it can

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be difficult to spread. You can either heat it up a little bit with like a

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haird dryer or you can just He-Man it,

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push really hard with your thumb on the spatula and get a nice thin layer.

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Right. Yeah. See, for some people that's an option. I usually use that option. I

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think your forearms are probably about twice as big around as my biceps. For my

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effort, how much performance benefit do I get? You're going to see significant

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improvement in temperature, which will lead, if you use, say, PBO

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um on AMD, you'll gain performance just

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from using better thermal paste. But we're not using that today, are we?

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We're using this, a thermal paste that

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apparently costs tens of dollars per

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gram. Correct. And what the hell is this? So, this is

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our hybrid paste. It looks like normal thermal paste. Sure does, but we have a

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special blend of gallium and other

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ingredients that I will not disclose. Sounds like you're trying to sell me

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fried chicken. We have our special blend of spices. There's salt and some other

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we're not going to tell you. So, basically, it has liquid metal in it.

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And we're trying to give you the benefits of liquid metal without the

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negatives of say shooting liquid metal

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across your motherboard and killing it. It being impossible to clean up. Yes.

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Liquid metal drying out and leaving you with no cooling. We have a backup layer

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of regular thermal paste. So, it's kind of giving you the best of both worlds.

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Let's see how challenging this one is to spread. I'll try not to use too much.

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Okay. It's expensive. We're going to really target where the compute dies are

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here. Put a little bit up there for the IO die. There you go. Oh. Oh, wow. That

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spread super easy. This is the part where we break the traditional order a

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little bit. I want to put this GPU in. But why don't you explain why we chose

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the ROG Astral other than because you think it's funny that you can lift it

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and I can't. I got I got to put this down. Can you hold this? Thank you.

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Obviously, just from your what you were just saying is is beefcake of a cooler

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here. Asus is all about overclocking.

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So, they support with GPU tweak software and stuff. They make it real easy for us

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to get all the performance out of these cards. We have a bit of an

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unconventional cooling setup for this build. Fresh intake right here, all for

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the GPU. And we're pulling fresh air into this radiator for the CPU. And if

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our RAM gets a little bit warmer, then the PSU suck all the hot air out.

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Sure. Hey, speaking of power supply, now is a great time to talk about our

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sponsor for this build, CIC. Naturally, a build of this caliber deserves the

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very best from CSI's lineup, and that's why we went with the

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TX600 watt prime unit. This thing is 80

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plus titanium efficient. It's ATX 3.1, meaning it has the newer 12volt 2x6

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power connector. In fact, it has two of them in case you're building an AI PC or

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something like that. And as always, it comes with CIC's acclaimed lengthy

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warranty. It reaches 94% peak efficiency

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according to Cybernetics and has very low ripple. It basically doesn't get any

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better than this except for the version of this that has like a better fan in it

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from Noctua, but we don't need that today because apparently this is not going to be a quiet build. No, we're not

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worried about that right now. Neat. All right, let's get a monitor. Something

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for you to note is we are going to be running at 1080p for all of our testing

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today because when you are extreme overclocking or whatever, you are going

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to want to run into situations where you could be CPU bottlenecked so that as you

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increase the speed of your CPU, you can really see the differences and measure them. Oh my god, I'm dead again. Oh, I

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missed. How did I miss that? He's right there. Come on, buddy. So, we're getting

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like anywhere from 450 to 600 FPS. Once

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you get into really high frame rates, things start to get a little variable.

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So, you can beat that, right? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Why don't you walk us

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through what you're doing? Sure. Uh, right now, just going to raise the CPU

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clocks. Fixed clock. No boost. No boost.

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No boost. Oh. So, well, that's not the meta I was quite expecting, but sure.

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We'll just be conservative at first and then sure. A conservative 5.4 GHz. We

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also increased the voltage a little bit. That made more of a difference than I

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was necessarily expecting.

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Maybe 6 to 700 now. Damn, we're getting

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6 to 700 FPS. And you haven't really even pushed it yet. No, we could go

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further. Okay, well, we should do that. If all this seems too easy for us to

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bother flying a professional out here, that's because everything we've been

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doing so far is the easy stuff that you don't really have to know anything to do. Accurate. I'm trying to say that the

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stuff that he knows is stuff we're going to get to in a minute. Like, I could

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have done that. Can you give me the dumb dumb version of what exactly it is you

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just changed? So, memory timings.

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Okay. Less dumb. Basically, lower number good for the

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most part. Mhm. Except for when it's not. But some of them we tune a little

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bit. Yeah. And some of them we're literally setting to less than half.

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Biggest one probably is refresh interval. Almost always the max value

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here is is going to be stable and okay. it will raise the temperature of your

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memory which can kind of show you too that it's working harder. And for the

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people out there, you know, who wanted to kind of learn this, how do they learn

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that 403 is an optimal

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TRFCSB refresh cycle time? Some literature will tell you your TRA should

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be like twice your TRCD divided by the

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square root of pi * 4, right? But if you

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just test it yourself and and lower it and see a gain in a benchmark or a game,

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then that is a good value for you,

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right? So, literature be damned. Try it

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and if it it works for you, then then go with that. What are the odds if someone

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had a 9800 X3D and they bought a really nice kit of memory that they could just

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plop these numbers in? These numbers in uh pretty high. Okay. Yeah. If you had

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the good memory, decent IMC. Oh, here we go. We're

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in. We got 100 more megahertz. We're

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out. Hopefully I don't get backbanned for just like popping into matches and

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exiting them after I get killed a bunch. Oh, see, here's the thing. Sometimes you

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can have too much of a good thing. That was too much clock speeds. Feel like not

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all of this is going to make it into the final cut. So, if you want the extras,

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LMG.gg/flowplane. This is a rocket.

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Look at it go. Oh god. Oh no. Katy Perry, you told your wife you'd be

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leaving by now? If she wanted someone who's punctual, she could have married

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someone punctual. There are a lot of religious types in the overclocking community. No. What the kind of question

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is that? Are you okay in there, Lauren Sanchez? Ow.

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Realistically, I'm sure we could squeeze a few more mehz out of it, but the idea

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was that you legitimately would be able to follow along at home. And these are

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pretty attainable settings if you have decent hardware. So, let's go ahead and

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do our after benchmark. It's a little bit better. How we doing? 780 average

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and 300 on the 1% lows. Okay, that's not

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that much. I mean, it's better. It's better. Yes. I mean, we're getting into

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very high frame rate territory. We might be getting limited by more than just the

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clock speed here. Should we do like a overclocking dude benchmark for a second

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here? like like a Port Royal. Man, I

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remember when 3D Marks benchmarks were like cutting edge. Like you couldn't get a game that had graphics that good. And

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now it seems like they uh pretty good graphics.

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Did good. We're a little above average for this hardware. We've got a good score. Okay, why don't we see what we

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can do with a faster GPU? Just an idea. Some fans going. Okay,

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this better go faster otherwise I think you might be out of a job.

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Whoa. Okay, hold on a second. Now we're Ted and Billy. Ted and

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Bill. We're excellent. I'm calling it here. 900 FPS. Really? I'm going to

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guess 778. 795. Okay, that is less more than I was

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expecting. What was it like? And our minimums are actually worse. Well, that

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might just be margin of error. So, now we're running Stellaris, which is like a

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top down kind of real-time strategy game. This benchmark simulates one year

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of in-game time. And we have kind of our pre-made map here. Um, it's very much a

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CPU benchmark. So, we'll see what it

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does. But we should We're getting only 51 FPS. It does. This is a very

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intensive game. Hey, that's like 10% improvement. Okay.

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Oh, lower number better. Yeah. On this one, this is the time it took to

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process. Heck yeah. Okay. So, then they're Well, that's awesome. All you

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have to do is get a master's degree in around with RAM timings or buy a PC for

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me. And the this guy the sales pitch

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always be selling. All right, let's put monkeying around and flash the BIOS.

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Okay, enough monkeying. Let's flash this thing. Okay. Woo. Sorry.

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This is on the big boy power BIOS. Okay.

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So, do Oh, we've got a we've got more slider now. But 120% of what? That is

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not as relevant anymore. I see. So the

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So is 100% a thousand? Technically, I don't know that. Okay. So I should turn

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it all the way up. We can try, but we

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can also here. Why don't you draw? Just

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give him the give him the remote, please. I can show you kind of in a non-

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3D benchmark would be cool. So we can see our amp amperage on the Uh-huh.

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Oh, yeah. Bad. Red is bad. Okay. And we

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we're all red. Oh, 12 volts times 10 amp. So, we're at like 120 watts per per

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pen. Do you want me to go higher or no? If we can go a little higher, I think.

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Yeah, we should. We should try. We're doing up to 11 amps now per pin. Should

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we try Port Royal? Sure. So, I think this should put us

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around a little better than where we were, but we'll go higher after this.

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We'll go higher. No fail.

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Rats, is your card worse than mine? Realistically, if all you want is power

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consumption be damned, the highest clock speed you can get, a lot of this is

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going to come less down to your particular skill at entering the numbers

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and more down to how lucky you get in the silicon lottery, but only for

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certain things. You know, for the RAM, for instance, okay, you're actually

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going to need to educate yourself somewhat in terms of what all the timings mean. But that netted us a

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couple percent of the performance increase we saw

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today. But then a couple percent of a few percent is I guess a

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lot. Oh, hamburgers. Hamburgers. Our

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power in this building sucks. We've had all kinds of issues overclocking in this

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corner in the past. So part of his stability woes may just be that we don't

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have a particularly clean power source. And you can have a great PSU in your

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computer all you want, but if it has dirty input power, that is going to work

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against it. It feels more stable already. Does. Does it actually?

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Actually, a little. Yeah. Glitchy before. Yeah. Are you joking? No. No. It

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was being a little We're so close. Legendary. We're legendary. Let's go. We

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found what's after. Excellent. Let's go, dude. We are at like 3150.

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Dude, we're at the point where the performance curve, the bell curve is

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basically flat. What's after legendary? I don't There can't be something after

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legendary. Okay, you must know, right? Like, is there something after legendary? I really don't. I I never

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have even read that it's at legendary. Literally, this man only sees the

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number. Dude, we got this. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we

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go. Here we go. Here we go. Let's go. 3

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2 1. There's like four systems that are above this number. Can I see the

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hardware GPU Z thing? What does it say? It was drawing. 890 watts. Holy. You're

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telling me these 5090s ain't got no headroom? I feel like you can do more.

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Not today. Just need more temps. And we

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need to tell you about our sponsor. No, it's Cic. Oh, yeah. CIC, right? CIC.

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Good power. I mean, legendary power. Legendary even, you might say. We were

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able to drive a freaking 900 watt GPU off of this thing. Like, do you really

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need to know more than that? We're going to have CIC linked down below. We're

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also going to have Slav's thermal compound down there, as well as his uh

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PC system integration business. Thank you. If you guys enjoy these kinds of

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shenanigans, though, maybe you'll enjoy the last time that Alex and I tried using a modified BIOS to push a 1000

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watts through a GPU.
