Tommy Hilfiger was everywhere in the 90s on Snoop Dogg, Britney Spears, and many
more. Not that I cared. This may surprise you, but I've never really been
into fashion. Now, though, they're getting into MySpace gaming. And you
guys know I love looking at some Oh,
well, this is different. We have seen some crap from major brands before. I
mean, normally it's fine, just a little too expensive. But this steaming pile of
sweat shop garbage isn't just bad. Our
Labs team tested it out and the marketing for this is filled with actual
lies and deceit so egregious that it may
actually be illegal. This is my first time touching it though. I don't even
know how much this pile of trash cost me. You want to guess? 100 bucks. 150.
150. Is that real dollars? Yes. US. This
isn't the first time that Tommy Hilfiger has gotten into selling tech. They
actually currently sell Bluetooth speakers and headphones as well as a
battery bank, but this is their first foray into the gaming space. What's
different this time is the level of effort. We don't have Tommy's previous
headphones here to comment on their sound quality, but it's easy to tell
from the photos that they achieve at least the bare minimum. They look like
they were made by Tommy Hilfiger. The gaming set. Well, um
Oh, man. It uses an Which one is this? The ISO layout enter key. That's the
worst one. Conveniently positioned for your sixth finger that happens to be a
little bit longer than your pinky. They can't even manage to make it look
anything other than cheap and horrible. The really wild part is you've seen what
these guys do in their fashion photography and yet no amount of
Photoshop could make this look like anything but garbage. Oh my god, what
are these specs? 95% acryo nitral
butadine styrene. How is that the very
top of your key talking points? It's also just ABS plastic. It's used in
literally everything. I didn't even think about what ABS even
stood for. Why would you Why would you
type that? The mouse is 90% ABS and 10%
metal. I better not find anything other than ABS or metal in that mouse. What
metal? Headset. 10% sponge.
Why is this the very top of the product page? Okay, I'm sorry. Keyboard
features. Easy clean, waterproof, and dustproof. You don't say. It says
waterproof. It does care. Spot clean
will do. Thomas. Oh my god. Alex, look.
This isn't just your regular old keyboard mouse headset. This is
imported. Yes, they've got a lot more specs actually on
the box than they do on the website. The gaming headset supposedly offers
immersive surround sound. It is PS VA
compatible. Why would you mention the PS VA and the Nintendo 3DS? Wait, is this
thing new? This came out in December and yet every mention of a supported console
is at least 5 years old. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm actually going to start
looking at this stuff now. I found the metal in the mouse. Metal? Is this a
removable weight system that needs actual screws? You're getting ahead of
yourself. There is a removable weight, but not that. That's not the removable
weight. You're not supposed to be taking it apart this early. Wait, I'm not allowed to take it apart yet. Just
experience it. Okay, I'll take it apart later. It's really heavy for a modern
gaming mouse. It does have really mushy
back and forward buttons. The back button has a significantly longer
travel. Wait, is this from us? I doubt it. Oh,
yeah. No, it doesn't look like there's any screws under there, so I don't think that's actually from us. And only the
finest large connector wire. I mean, who needs to plug anything into the next USB
port over, right? That's why you have dedicated USB ports on the front of your
computer for your mouse. Oh, I mean, it works. Hey, that looks pretty cool.
Backlight, four recurrent colors. Does it just cycle between four colors? Is
there a way to change it? No, this is actually like a decent RGB controller in
here. Well, that's one thing that's good about it. Can you change the RGB things?
Oh. Oh, no. I didn't see a software
download. Is there any way to actually control the RGB? That That's a feature
Linus. No driver needed. No driver
needed at all. Nothing. Does it have any indication of what DPI you're running
at? Perhaps. Do these change DPI? I
think they do. Why are you hitting it a bunch of times? Because I want to be
able to tell, but the range is only from 1,200 to 3200. So, that's not nearly as
wide as you might expect on a modern gaming mouse. I I'm pretty sure that the
DPI adjust buttons are in fact here and here, but I guess there's no way to
reprogram any of these. You better be happy with back, forward, DPI, up and
down, and left and right click. The RGB
effect does look really cool though. Give credit where it's due. I mean,
that's all that matters to gamers, right? I guess in order to go to the
website, I'm gonna need this keyboard.
I don't think this weighs much more than the mouse does.
Uh oh. Wow. I don't recall the last time I saw a
keyboard that felt this generic and cheap. Honestly though, you've been able
to get like much better keyboards for 30
bucks, 20 bucks on Amazon for years.
Are these Is this a placeholder for where the num lock caps lock and scroll
lock lights are supposed to go? They didn't even finish putting the legend on
it. This is the most OEM. We changed
almost nothing thing I think I've ever seen. Tommy clearly had nothing to do
with this whatsoever. And that's not a compliment. That's an indicator that
he's just completely checked out of whatever products bear his name. Good
quality silk screen here. But unfortunately, my X key is a reflection
of my current mood having spent 150 bucks for this. It's permanently
depressed. Can I get a rim shot editor, please, for that? Hello.
Is that going to Is that going to bad boy going to pop back up? Hey, there we
go. We got it. Nice. Has a dedicated
lighting key, though. I have high hopes for the RGB. The effort level is so low.
Not only could they not do their own mold for the USB port housing, they
couldn't even use the same one on both products. So like what? You couldn't
find a cheap Chinese peripheral OEM to make both of them. You had to find two
different ones and then package them together. Clearly quality wasn't the
main concern, Alex. So why not? If you want to know, they are both from Instant
Micro Electronics. They're both from Instant Micro. Yeah. From the same
factory. So, they couldn't even order enough to have them change the housing
to be the same. Why do I have to try so hard? Do you know how hard we work to
differentiate LT store products to make them truly awesome? If all I have to do
is just slap my name on garbage and I can become a billionaire, like, why
don't I do it? How much is he worth anyway? Oh no.
It's the kind of RGB lighting with static red, green, and blue LEDs. They
don't actually change. I was pleasantly surprised by the excellent color mixing
on the multiple LEDs inside the mouse. This not so much. This appears to be a
light diffuser pattern in the mold so that these lights won't be too bright.
They just didn't put the legend over top of it. Trigger gaming. Oh, I hate this
keyboard. Now, I want to make this abundantly clear. I am not shaming
anyone who can't afford a better keyboard. That's fine. But if you had
the money and you bought this anyway,
I don't know what to tell you. You're an NPC. Yes. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
It's This is facts. A rainbow backlight
keyboard. I mean, technically, yes. A
mouse with seven button design. I mean,
yes. and a comfortable headset with
omnidirectional speaker sound. What the
does that even mean? That sounds like whoever did the merchandising for this
page heard a word once in an audio context and kind of went, "Ooh, that
sounds cool." I promise you that these are regular old drivers like any other
driver and they fire in one direction cuz they've got that one thing. They
definitely don't know they're beautiful. No acknowledgement, nothing. Sorry, I
was looking up what omniirectional means. So that means that the speaker is
not beaming, which given the performance
of the highs, they might actually be correct. When I hear omniirectional
speaker, what I expect is a speaker array that has balanced output in all
directions. That's what I would imagine omniirectional speaker means. Does it
say on this at all what the driver size is?
Oh, maybe. But it does say that the headphones are 7.3 inches in length.
When you have to start resorting to the length, width, and height of your
headphones to fill out a spec sheet that contains your headphones, your mouse,
and your keyboard, you know that you are scraping the absolute bottom of the
barrel, but you can look cool doing it. It sits on your neck when it's upside
down. Oh my god, you're right, Brandon.
How cool am I right now?
Regla, you I only wear the finest
brands.
These may be the cheapest drivers that I
have ever put on my head. Listen to
this, Brandon. Hold on. I have to put this onto the mic so that I can show you
what I'm hearing right now. But um
that is the difference in air pressure from kind of pushing the drivers onto
your head, kind of you know mushing the pads a little bit, causing the the
driver inside the the membrane to just
collapse and then pop back out. Let's
get our three our three amigos here. Which one's Curly? Which one's Larry?
And which one's Mo? Let us know in the comments. I've just been doing some math
on the whole omniirectional thing cuz it bothered me. Oh. Somewhere around 11,000
hertz. If their driver size is correct, it will start beaming and not be
omniirectional. Oh, so basically they're just admitting
the performance. All right, I'm gaming, boys. Wait, I
need to plug in the USB port and the 3
and 12 mm jacks. Is that USB port only the lights? It's only for the lights.
It doesn't have an amp deck at all. Oh
no. Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.
I don't Should I be mean to the people who have bought it? No. It was probably
their nan at like Hudson's Bay Company or something. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
Okay. I don't want you to feel bad if you have these. So, take all of the
crapping on them that I'm about to do as educational. I'm not bullying. It's
education. Trying to teach you something. Look at this. This has the
little holes as though the mic is here. Is the mic here or is the mic here? And
they couldn't have the same color braided cables. Again, they're all
different. What a cynical cash grab this whole thing is.
I can't even type on this thing. Oh my god. I can't type on this thing. I
thought it was me, but then it did it again. It inserted an O. Yeah, it's got
it. It's got the O in there again. No. No. Get my hands. Get my hands this
time. We've got screen cap. So, we got screen cap. Okay, here we go.
Okay, it didn't do it. Oh my god, I can't. And now I'm now I'm overthinking
it. No, it is not inserting ghost characters. It's just really hard to
type on
that sound though. What?
Oh my god, look at this. The computer knows what's up. Why is that what people
are googling? These are already super warm on my ears because they're just
using the cheapest possible PU fake leather and they're already
uncomfortable. Though, to their credit, they at least did put foam padding on
the top, which a lot of even reasonably high-end headset manufacturers don't do
for whatever reason. You got to give credit to Crab Rave here. You have to be
a truly great catchy song to sound good on these. The mids are basically
non-existent, blended in with the bass, which somehow manages to both overpower
everything and yet be inadequate. And as
for the highs, I think they're in there somewhere. I don't know about you guys,
but I'm having a great time. Oh, these sound like
they are so bad. I swear to you,
everything sounds the same. gunshot,
fireball firing, fireball hitting, it
just all sounds the same. The mouse is definitely the least crap part of it.
But that's not much of a bar. You know, I'm on the record saying that if given
the choice, I'll take a good mouse and a crap keyboard versus the other way
around. But this experience taught me that there really is still a minimum bar
that you have to reach, and this doesn't reach it. I'm also on the record
recently saying there's no such thing as a bad product, only a bad price. But I
think Tommy has proven me wrong. You can have both a bad price and a bad product.
The mouse is only okay in a vacuum. And
like any product, the Tommy Hilfiger gaming set does not exist in a vacuum.
This is what we were able to put together for the same total price. A
keyboard, mouse, headset combo from brands you've heard of. Yes, we did get
some of these items on sale, but not mega Black Friday sale or anything like
that. Like, you could easily reproduce our results here. Let's compare, shall
we? You know what? Hold on a second. First, I saw Alex walk in with something
intriguing. This is a keyboard that was
included with some Lenovo pre-built.
I would imagine the bill of materials cost for this to be under $10. You can
normally add those for like $5 in the config. I would like to know how it
compares. Do I have to put these back on? Okay.
I would take this any day of the week.
This is what it would take to convince me that this is a gaming keyboard. Nice
lowprofile keys, nice short travel,
consistent feel from one to the next. This is spectacularly awful. Now, let's
compare it to something price equivalent. First up, we've got the
Logitech G305, featuring their hero sensor and light speeded wireless
dongle. That's right, my friends, lower than wired latency and the convenience
of just popping in a new AA battery anytime the absolutely incredible
battery life runs out on you. It has one fewer button, but it uses that one
button much better. You can reprogram it, and it just cycles through the DPIs
instead of going up or down. So, it has functionally exactly the same function.
I can already tell. Not even going to be close. Lowprofile chassis, four onboard
cam powered reprogrammable switches,
standard bottom row design with MX compatible hot swappable sockets, GaDon
red linear key switches, and yeah, there's a little bit of flex. Okay, this
isn't a top-of-the-line keyboard, but my goodness, is that ever a lot better.
Detachable cable includes a key switch puller. And look at that. Oh, is this
magnetic? If it's magnetic, I'm going to be really impressed. Really nice
magnetic wrist rest. Where's my wrist rest, Tommy? Lots of different creature
comforts here. We've got two different heights for the back feet. Nice sounding
little volume wheel. USBC detachable
cable. Real RGB. The thing about RGB, you don't have to be into RGB. That's
fine. You can just set it to white and forget about it. Not on the Tommy
Hilfiger. It's RGB or it's nothing. It's
grope around in the dark and find your keys. Oh, sorry, Mom. Didn't mean to
send that to you. And finally, we've got the Steeler Arctis Nova. I haven't
touched a Steel Series headset in just about forever. It can go USBC to C, USBC
to 3 1/2 mil, or USB-C to extension to
A. Pop out boom mic. Love to see it. Not
always hanging around in your face. Got mute button, on ear cup volume control,
and a lighting button. The lighting can turn off. No padding on the top. We'll
see how this elastic fares.
I mean, the bar they had to reach was so low, though. Oo, that is some nice
looking foam there. Steel series. Ooh, those ear cups. All right, here I got to
get you the comparison shot, Brandon. Boing boing boing. Okay, then we got
this one. One thing that's probably important to mention here too is like
your ears are not parallel and that one
you can move the cups like this. Oh yeah, this has like no adjustment
whatsoever. Whereas like
Yeah, that's not good. Oh, look at that. We've actually got high-end frequency
response. Like I I might be able to hear where footsteps are coming from. What a
concept. I have never appreciated a proper gaming keyboard this much. To be
clear, this is not the world's best gaming keyboard or anything like that,
but boy is it ever better. We're in like a puzzle part. That's fine. You've
probably done enough. Also, better noise isolation. In summary, our comparison
set is not even close. Gear won't make
you a better gamer, but at least it shouldn't actively inhibit you from
being a better gamer. Do I get to take them apart now? Not yet. We have a
couple of tests to do. Okay, the first
it says the cord is 1.5 m on the box for
the mouse. I mean, the length didn't bother me, but
did they really try to cheap out on that little bit of copper? Oh, that's not a
meter and a half. I don't need a tape measure to tell you that.
Uh, maybe if we go right from the very
end of the plug, just to be as charitable as possible here, that is 140
cm. They're 10 cm short. That's what I
That's what I always tell my mom. Yeah. Do you want us to have a look at this little data sheet here? Oh, wow. You
found a data sheet for the mouse. Is that because on the manufacturer's
website, they just have this OEM mouse? No, we took it apart and found the
sensor and got it from there. Oh, excellent.
But just note, this is what it says. The DPI is here. 1,200 to 3200. Yeah.
Oh, 800, 1200,600, and 2,000. Well, that
explains the very narrow range that I
picked up on. I was like, is this changing or is this not changing? That's
a completely different numbers. Do you know what the best part is? What? We
measured it. Those numbers are also wrong. It's 600, 900, 1200, and 1500.
Did you read this? No.
They describe a breathing light mode as
fourcolor circulatory discolored respiratory function. That sounds like a
disease, not a feature. What's that? It's a slide test. Oh, all right. Slide
test time. Where did you download this from? The backlight is supposed to wait.
Backlight breathing. The back is this plugged in? It's supposed to indicate
what the CPI is said to. Nope. Guess that was overridden. So, we're going to
do a slide test. It even gets the extra benefit of it. Oh, see you later. Uh oh.
Well, here. Hold on. Hold on. No. No. Let's give it every possible advantage.
Okay. I'll I'll hold this up like that. Yeah. I mean, we want to be we want to
be charitable. Yeah. Mouse. Oh, you stay. You stay. You stay. Good boy. Oh.
Oh. Oh. Yeah. That's a lot of drag. And this is
the one I even said wasn't that bad. Here. Watch. Watch this. Watch this.
Holy crap. It completely loses tracking
if you try to do a flick shot.
So that means that you're going faster than this sensor can figure out. We'll
we'll show you what happens on this. Wow, we spun. You can actually control
that. It's just working. Do you want to
know the absolute best thing about this mouse? The RGB.
No. So yeah, the input latency of a click on this mouse is on average 5
milliseconds at most 6.1. What do you
think it is for that? Oh, I don't know. Obviously, it's going to be worse. I'll
say 10 milliseconds.
Hold on. Let me give me give me a sec here.
It's not like 20, is it? 30 on average,
45 at the most. Really? Yeah. I'd be I'd be able to
detect it on a display. You give me something with like 30 additional
milliseconds of latency, but I I can't see it here. That's really bad. That's
two entire frames of additional latency from your input. I want to take apart
the most. I want to take things apart. I want to know what's going on with this
weight plate in the bottom. You could like unplug it first. No, it's fine.
What's the worst that can happen? The plate appears to be entirely cosmetic
and a little rusty. Oh no.
Remember I was saying it was heavy? They did it on purpose. They're actually they
they pulled a '9s power supply trick here. They just put a big hunk of metal
in the back of the mouse. What the heck are they doing, bud? It's way lighter.
How much does this thing weigh? Did we measure it? 18 g. 18 g? Are you guys out
of your minds? And look at this PCB. Is
this a modern gaming mouse or is this a freaking science fair project from 1985?
Oh my god. Is this handbuilt? Holy
I think it is. They're not surface mounting devices. These resistors are
throughhole mounted. This is like literally like like like you could
build. Well, there's another lie. It says instant right on the controller
chip there. No. No.
No, that's why the side buttons feel so
mushy. There's no 90° mounted PCB.
They're not pressing directly on anything. They just slide into place
above these switches that are actually pressed this way. Press the button like
that. Okay. Slides through. Yeah. And it
goes like that and then it just like
slides onto it. Um. Wow. Neat. Well, do
you want the final bit of testing that we did for that mouse? Sure. There's two
things that you want to test for a mouse. Precision and accuracy. Accuracy
is kind of like 800 DPI. You want to get like 800 dots in and in. G305 is fine
for that. It's like 2.4%
off, which is like not ideal, but the precision is really good. You can do the
same thing and it's within a tenth of a percent every single time. What you mean
to say is it's 2.4% off every time. Yes.
Okay. This is Oh god.
The accuracy is terrible. 2.7 or up to
3.3 off, but the variance at best is 2%
and at worst is four. So doing the same
movement a bunch of times is going to be different every single time you do it.
But at least it's instant. It's so cool having a Labs team to like
test all this stuff for us. Cuz if all you're going to do is drop into do
maternal and click a few heads, like you could pull it off, but if you want to
actually get good and do aim training or something like that, this is going to
prevent you from being able to do that. See you later, Tommy. Nice knowing you.
So, you see how right there it says advanced anti- ghosting with a infinity
symbol beside that? What happens if I actually press three keys at once? So 27
30 32 It works. Yeah, you have many more fingers or many less fingers than that.
Let's go again. Oh my god. Three. That's
it. Oh, unless you're on a different
part of the matrix. Oh no. Okay. Spacebar is separate. Okay.
So, it can handle three per zone, it looks like. And where are my zones? Oh,
no. Space bar is in the same zone as JKL. Uh-oh.
Yeah. Okay. If I let go of D, can I hit the space bar?
Oh, interesting. Is it hitting anything? Up to a total of six maximum at once.
So, even if I wanted to play Learo, okay, with my son, which is a two-player
game where you each use one side of the keyboard, this would not work. That is a
game from like 1997 and keyboards back
then could handle it just fine. Latency is also terrible. 30 milliseconds. Show
me your secrets. Cover plate. Diffusion
plate. Oh wow. So it's a diffusion plate, but it's also like the switch
holder plate. And then obviously this is as advertised. It's a membrane style
keyboard. Okay. And once again the PCB
looks like it came out of something from the8s. I love that they put that like
anti-reverse engineering schmoo on the controller chip. Nobody wants to reverse
engineer this keyboard, guys. You're taking yourselves too seriously. There's
your RGB zones, edge lit, uh, two blue
LEDs, three red and two green. It's
really cool seeing the way the light interacts to form the different colors in this diffusion sheet, though. Was
there anything else you wanted to say about the keyboard? Nope. Before it goes to the uh
keyboard bin in the sky. Goodbye keyboard. Finally, headset. So,
this is the Arctics Nova 3. So, you can see like little bit extra midbase that
kind of gets your like gunshots and stuff really nice. Kind of a strange dip
at 5K. So, maybe not that. Oh, there it
is. Compared to the Tommy. At least my trained ear nailed the headset. Just
basically poo poo across the board.
Yeah. So, bass not too bad after about
1K. So, like when you're in your mids where like people might be talking or
where there are like feet or gunshots or
like kind of anything, it just Yep. Uh,
I'm not even going to bother trying to find where the screws are. Yeah. Sam,
our audio engineer, actually asked us to take a look at the drivers and see if in
production they forgot to take off the plastic that's protective because it's
so bad. He thinks it might be just manufactured wrong. Well, we'll find
out. There's the RGB lighting.
Uh, these are dead now. Um,
okay. Sure. The material is just that
cheap. Tommy, you done goofed. Surely
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