{"video_id":"4nYZvaulgZw","title":"Wired vs Wireless Gaming Mice","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2017-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":505,"segments":[{"start_s":0.399,"end_s":7.279,"text":"it's 2016 and wireless controllers have been a thing for a long time on consoles","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.04,"end_s":12.44,"text":"I use a wireless Xbox controller for a bunch of games but what about mice why","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.44,"end_s":18.279,"text":"aren't we all using Wireless mice for gaming on PC I could just say it's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":15.799,"end_s":23.56,"text":"because between TV input lag and cinematic frame rates console players","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.039,"end_s":28.0,"text":"can't tell the difference anyway but while that's actually part of the answer","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":26.24,"end_s":35.14,"text":"the rest of it is actually less 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super","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":490.36,"end_s":495.68,"text":"fun yeah dolls I don't know I mean","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":493.72,"end_s":499.68,"text":"action figures I don't play with dolls I don't know why I said","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":500.72,"end_s":506.24,"text":"dolls no sh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"it's 2016 and wireless controllers have been a thing for a long time on consoles I use a wireless Xbox controller for a bunch of games but what about mice why aren't we all using Wireless mice for gaming on PC I could just say it's because between TV input lag and cinematic frame rates console players can't tell the difference anyway but while that's actually part of the answer the rest of it is actually less offensive to console Gamers and possibly more interesting stay tuned be quiet! silent Wings 3 use a smooth running six Poole motor to remain silent and better cool your PC check them out at the link below back to our original question for a moment if manufacturers have been pushing Wireless technology down our throats for over 10 years now why haven't cordless mice ever really taken off outside of the office one since they're Wireless they're going to need batteries and that means they can't be all that light a couple of popular gaming mice among competitive Gamers like the final Mouse the Logitech G Pro they're like 70 and 84 G respectively but the g900 and g43 wireless are both 107 G that's 20% heavier than the g43 wired version with that said the bodies of other respectable gaming mice like the Razer Death Adder and steel series rival are actually about the same so Wireless mice aren't in a different weight class Al together except for the Mamba that is a whale at 125 G two batteries don't just add weight they also add inconvenience like wired mice never need to be charged and while office grade Wireless mice can last months on a pair of disposable batteries wireless gaming mice because of their higher performance hardware and higher polling rates need to be charged several times a week that's kind of inconvenient I I never do it though some of them have handy docks which is a bit more convenient than plugging in a USB connector but it's it takes up valuable desk space that I can populate with action figures or Pop-Tarts and on the subject of valuable three Wireless mice are much more expensive like while you can get good wired gaming mice for like 20 to $3 if you don't get fancy things like RGB lighting the g403 wireless sits at $99 with higher end models like the g900 and Razer Mamba they're going to cost you around 150 bucks and what do you get for your money a better gaming experience no what you get is problem number four more input lag at least that used to be the case like okay so far it sounds like this entire video is going to be one long hate session on wireless mice because I'm some kind of pretentious gaming mouse purist but I've actually been using the g403 wireless and this was not an easy decision but unlike my previous attempts to go less like with the razor uros this time I am not going back so let's talk about why while I don't have the scientific apparatus to validate their claims Logitech says their Wireless performance is on par or better than wired mice and does this look like a face that would lie to you no but really I haven't seen or felt anything to make me doubt that I don't notice a delay in movement or clicks and I've I haven't had it disconnect wir mice I'll actually have disconnect because I'll accidentally pull out the cable and this thing this this works even in my apartment with like signals bouncing around everywhere from Neighbors and outside of like a crowded land party that's probably the worst case scenario for wireless products in general so with no performance issues not having to deal with a cable after so many years of using a mouse sponge or or taping it to my desk or wrapping it around a lamp it's just awesome I I love lightweight mice but I feel like trading some weight for a more full range of motion to make flick shots without without knocking over it's finally worth it and while this doesn't solve all of my Wireless complaints like I I forget to charge my mouse constantly because I'm a bit of a scatterbrain I haven't had it die on me yet because a full charge lasts about 25 hours of constant use and I can't play constantly for 25 hours and when it gets low it tells you to plug in I just forget but it still works okay but I don't expect you to take my word for it entirely like I'm I'm not a filthy casual like lonus or whatever but there's a reason why people including myself look to the pros and wonder what are they using to win tournaments and you know who just won a tournament using the g43 wireless Cloud n's automatic they beat SK in the ESL pro league finals and he was if you ignore the salty salty Brazilian SK fans he was the real MVP of the tournament new Mouse big victory coincidence maybe but I think the only reasonable conclusion is that wireless is the Future Okay so with all that said not all wirelesses created equal so for the time being the answer is a bit more complicated you may have noticed that this video started out as wired versus Wireless and ended up mostly being about logitech's g403 and g900 the reason for that is that I just I can't recommend the other Solutions the g900 price might be offputting and you might not like the ambidex shape and design the g43 wireless is a cheaper more mainstream option but it still comes add a price and weight premium over the wired version I still think they're worth it but some people don't two options can't really kill off wir gaming mice but they're proof that the technology is here and it's ready are you ready for wireless mice let us know in the comments below Ting is the mobile carrier that is focused on customer service and customer satisfaction first you can call them and speak directly to 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