WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.960 those are famous 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:09.440 stop MSI's gaming laptops have always been exceptional at gaming but you know 00:00:07.680 --> 00:00:13.440 what they haven't been good at getting expense to your work they hope to change 00:00:11.840 --> 00:00:17.920 this by instead of it looking like lucky on pride day it being you know 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:31.439 like this thanks to MSI for sponsoring this video we have another one too but 00:00:29.279 --> 00:00:36.719 we're looking at the gs77 first you're uh the box it looks fancy there's a 00:00:34.160 --> 00:00:40.320 gloss black dragon oh he just wants us to know that we have 00:00:38.800 --> 00:00:44.239 a warranty actually we probably don't because MSI sent this to us but you know 00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:49.440 you would if you bought it quick guy let me guess plug it in turn it on 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:54.160 balls that was the brick that's fine connect 00:00:51.760 --> 00:00:56.239 to ac power power on the notebook nailed it 00:00:56.800 --> 00:01:03.600 let's have a look at the charger it's not usb-c this thing's way too 00:01:00.559 --> 00:01:05.360 powerful for it to be usb-c 240 watts 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:09.280 that's not quite as much as i expected but this is also not quite as much 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:12.880 laptop as i expected given the spec sheet okay let's take a look at the i o 00:01:11.119 --> 00:01:17.280 is that a oh cool so that right there looks like a webcam 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:22.640 enable disable like a hard switch for it that's nice headphone microphone combo 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:25.600 3.5 millimeter two usb type a's around 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:29.119 back we have an HDMI 2.1 love to see that and gigabit Ethernet i kind of wish 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:34.640 it was 2.5 but oh it's 2.5 hell yeah never mind it's 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:37.040 2.5 love to see it thank you MSI and on 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:42.240 the right side we have a Thunderbolt port a usb type-c with displayport and a 00:01:40.240 --> 00:01:46.479 full size sd card reader i hope that's a fast one because that is wicked if you 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:49.680 want to be doing like photo editing and stuff like that we'll take it apart 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:54.799 later but you can see that just all of here and there and there and around 00:01:52.079 --> 00:02:00.880 there it's all heatsinks okay let's open her up here my first comment MSI's build 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:05.119 quality has just increased so much in the last couple of years i am genuinely 00:02:03.119 --> 00:02:09.440 impressed how long ago was that we looked at like the ge 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:15.120 66 i think that's the one and it was just a floppy like you pressed here and 00:02:12.239 --> 00:02:18.720 the whole thing would just bow it's so solid they have done such a good job at 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:24.640 improving the build quality on their laptops oh yeah we need power this thing 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:26.160 may have a 99.9 watt hour battery but i 00:02:24.640 --> 00:02:30.959 can guarantee you you need to plug it in if you're gonna do much which to be 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:32.959 clear not MSI's fault just like physics 00:02:30.959 --> 00:02:36.160 and how many watts it consumes loads of ways to log in here you've got facial 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:40.000 recognition you've also got a fingerprint reader wow if i'm honest 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:43.280 this webcam is not nearly as bad as i expected is it 00:02:41.440 --> 00:02:47.040 shifting at all the reason that i checked that is that Windows hello 00:02:44.959 --> 00:02:51.680 facial recognition needs to use an ir camera if you look very closely here i 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:56.160 don't know if you can even see it um let's go right about there it looks like 00:02:53.920 --> 00:03:00.239 we have an ir camera there the actual camera for like your webcam right there 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:04.400 the fact that they aren't combined is wicked because if you have an ir camera 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.280 and you use it as a normal camera you don't have an ir filter and everything 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.319 just looks weird and they'll be like blotchiness and purple shifting and 00:03:09.040 --> 00:03:16.879 stuff love that they did the right way so we have an Intel core i7 12700h 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:20.319 that's 14 cores i think that's is that six performance cores 00:03:19.040 --> 00:03:27.440 nailed it up to 4.9 on that one for the memory we have 00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:30.239 32 gigabytes of 4800 mega transfers per 00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:34.959 second must be ddr5 then we also have a one terabyte micron SSD 00:03:32.720 --> 00:03:39.519 also iris xe graphics you won't use them because you have an rtx 3070 ti the 00:03:37.519 --> 00:03:44.480 screen on this laptop is the absolute star of the show it's 1440p 240 hertz 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:49.200 that is just perfect it also has a 100 coverage of dc 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:53.680 ip3 so it's nice and color accurate as well you can use it for photo editing 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:56.640 and whatnot well Windows update's there we have another laptop 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:06.640 all right i wonder if this one has the same charger oh no it's bigger 280 watts oh 00:04:04.720 --> 00:04:10.879 is this one a chunky boy oh it's still pretty stealthy though i'm surprised 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:15.120 yeah this one will raise a lot more questions 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:19.680 oh yeah damn you can really see those heat pipes this thing is either going to 00:04:17.280 --> 00:04:24.560 be very quiet or very loud maybe both don't do it don't do it don't 00:04:21.919 --> 00:04:28.240 do what this oh 00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:31.759 it mentions very specifically in our notes that the MSI logo is black to make 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:37.440 sure that we show it well on camera so there you go MSI you have headphone microphone combo 00:04:35.440 --> 00:04:43.040 it's gold so i imagine it's a very expensive dac we also have usb type c 00:04:39.919 --> 00:04:49.120 with displayport usb type a around back 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:52.160 we have HDMI Ethernet 2.1 2.5 yeah 2.5 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.400 wicket we have two usb type a ports 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:56.800 is there one over here okay good well here it still is quite good but 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:03.120 it's not quite the same as the stealth that we have over here it's also considerably 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:07.440 less expensive so there you go apparently it has a 360 hertz display 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:14.160 though that must be 1080p oh this was an i9 as well damn i think we need some 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:15.759 hand loop for this one look listen like 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:20.000 my finger's sticking to it but i think we can fix it just get some hand gunk on 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:25.120 there yeah official ShortCircuit hand lube 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:30.000 she's lubed up tracking nice and smooth 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.000 it's a real thing 00:05:30.880 --> 00:05:35.840 is our cheaper laptop more powerful that would be kind of funny 12 900h 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:41.919 processors faster and a 3070 ti so 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:45.039 maybe the same maximum is a 30 80. this 00:05:41.919 --> 00:05:46.320 one have ddr4 3200 mega transfers per 00:05:45.039 --> 00:05:50.080 second they might have cheaped out on the motherboard and that would explain 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:54.800 the price difference between the two so even though we have technically slower 00:05:52.479 --> 00:05:59.840 processor in the stealth the better motherboard and RAM might make up for 00:05:57.919 --> 00:06:06.880 that difference okay which one do you guys think is faster ddr5 versus 12 900 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:10.160 h e05 ddr5 yeah i think so too 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:12.479 12 900 h horse is getting in here too 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:16.080 one very important thing before we start here there we go 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:19.400 turbo mode oh wait does this one not have a turbo mode there we go 00:06:17.440 --> 00:06:22.639 performance mode so what do we think gp66 00:06:20.960 --> 00:06:27.360 gs77 77 77 all right i'm going with the gp66 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:31.919 just to be different then even though i think i'm wrong we're doing this on extreme i even increased the 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:37.440 anti-aliasing because that just makes for the horizon 5 look better and start 00:06:35.039 --> 00:06:43.600 ah frank we have to optimize well if optimization is anything to go off of uh 00:06:40.080 --> 00:06:44.960 the gs77 is in the lead probably because 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:50.000 faster memory which one's gonna get in first 00:06:46.840 --> 00:06:50.800 gs77 won the optimization battle will it 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:59.360 win the gaming battle it says we're getting 77 FPS's versus 83 wha 00:06:57.599 --> 00:07:05.680 one thing that we aren't balancing for right now is the fact that the gp66 00:07:02.479 --> 00:07:07.759 is way louder i cannot hear the stealth 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:13.919 you can probably barely hear me over this thing it is going a lot faster 00:07:09.919 --> 00:07:16.800 though all right 79 FPS on extreme with 00:07:13.919 --> 00:07:19.440 custom settings higher than extreme i think this one's gonna be a little bit 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:26.160 more 83 oh damn 00:07:21.280 --> 00:07:26.160 the small thick bow is faster okay i win 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:34.319 turns out that a 12900h with ddr4 is 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:36.000 faster than a 12 700h with ddr5 not a 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:41.759 perfect test because this one's also way louder those are famously 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:44.879 stop stop stop this stop we're doing 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:47.520 tech links it's tackling time do it time 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:50.319 to stop correctly go get it give me that marker back no i'm not 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.520 giving you the marker back you threw it at me okay good 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:58.000 get out of here okay re-ran the tests in just you know 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:06.000 ultra settings instead of extreme and same basic result the gs77 got 91 FPS 00:08:01.919 --> 00:08:07.599 the gp66 got 96. the reason though is a 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:14.560 little bit interesting if you look a little bit closely here the CPU 00:08:10.479 --> 00:08:19.680 on the gs76 was a little bit faster in 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:21.520 every way but the GPU in the gp66 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:27.479 was a little bit faster in every way that's cool because it tells us that the 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:31.599 12700h with ddr5 is faster than the 00:08:27.479 --> 00:08:34.880 12900h with ddr4 it also tells us that 00:08:31.599 --> 00:08:38.320 if your GPU has 150 watts of power like 00:08:34.880 --> 00:08:40.479 this one it's faster than 105 watts who 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:45.600 would have thought this is also why buying a laptop is really hard 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:50.640 because you can have situations where a CPU that should be faster is slower 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:55.440 because of the RAM and even though this one's a 17-inch and this one's a 15-inch 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:58.080 this one has more graphics power it's it's a mess but now we know between 00:08:56.800 --> 00:09:03.120 these two yeah that's why you watch our videos that's why we're creating Labs either 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:08.640 way though when you compare this to other 30-70 ti laptops that i have used 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:10.399 before the results are right in line 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:15.120 with the fastest other laptops on the market make sense we're going to put the 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:19.519 gp66 away for a bit i'm sure the 360 hertz display is wicked and amazing but 00:09:18.560 --> 00:09:25.920 i'm good yeah this is the laptop that i would want purely because of the trackpad it's 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:30.880 bigger and just feels way better this is an absolutely acceptable keyboard the 00:09:28.160 --> 00:09:37.760 key stabilization is fine and the key travel and feel is also 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:41.040 perfectly acceptable i would give this maybe like an a minus something like 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:46.519 that surprisingly these are not the same keyboard they actually appear to have 00:09:44.160 --> 00:09:51.120 different switches now the ones on the gp66 i think it has a little bit more 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:55.760 travel which makes sense they have a lot more room but that said the key 00:09:53.279 --> 00:10:01.680 stabilization isn't quite as good i'd say it's about a draw between the two a 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:04.800 minus a minus so empirically this laptop 00:10:01.680 --> 00:10:07.600 is very good for gaming and subjectively 00:10:04.800 --> 00:10:13.440 it is also very good at gaming like i said before 1440p 240 hertz is 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:16.880 completely incredible and as long as you're not looking away from the road 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:21.360 you can avoid like hitting someone that comes up to you hey Linus new video idea 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:24.480 i get a c8 corvette that's it 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:29.360 oh i don't know if i mentioned this before but the screen also is 400 nits 00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:32.880 and you can really tell that in horizon 5 when there's like the sun bouncing off 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:37.279 of the road and stuff it just looks fantastic i would say that this meets 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:44.720 the bare minimum spec on a laptop at least of having like an HDR experience 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:46.240 because like 400 nits on a tv is trash 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:51.040 it's not good at all but when you're sitting like this far away from a laptop 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:55.760 400 nits when it's like well done like this one is is enough to get an actual 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:59.440 HDR experience it's not incredible like it's not a thousand nits but when you're 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:03.120 this close a thousand it's actually burns your eyes like if you have a white 00:11:00.880 --> 00:11:06.560 screen it hurts is MSI is the first one that had the uh yeah they have a mini 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:10.399 led display it's not in this but if you really want 00:11:08.560 --> 00:11:14.160 an HDR experience on a laptop MSI has you covered there unsurprisingly is 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:18.560 laptops great at gaming who would have thought is it good at crab brave though 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:21.839 that's all i need to hear these ones are worse 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.920 oh okay mute 00:11:25.920 --> 00:11:30.720 play three 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:37.200 okay that speakers in the vector 00:11:35.680 --> 00:11:40.560 not so good changing to the gs77 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.839 night and day 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:56.399 yeah i don't need to hear anymore the stealth gs77 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:58.079 just absolutely blows the vector out of 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:03.519 the water when it comes to speaker quality in here we have six two watt speakers so 00:12:01.680 --> 00:12:07.760 you can see the two that are up firing right there that helps a lot with treble 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:12.079 that adds just so much clarity when you don't have it bouncing off of things as 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:15.839 for the vector it has two two watt speakers and they're not firing at you 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:20.079 which means that the clarity is just completely ruined are you going apart 00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:23.279 now yeah i want to take them apart cool they're doing the thing that alienware's 00:12:21.839 --> 00:12:27.600 been doing for a little while now where they tell you exactly what screw it is 00:12:26.079 --> 00:12:34.639 on the screw holes i don't know if you can read it right there but it says m 2.5 by 3.5 millimeters awesome oh there 00:12:33.040 --> 00:12:37.040 we go i'm in 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:43.360 oh it did take a little bit of screwing around with the guitar pick getting into 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:47.360 this thing was pretty easy just be sure that you use something like the ifixit 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:50.560 tray to put all of your screws back in the right spot some of them are real 00:12:49.040 --> 00:12:57.040 long some of them are not if you put it in the wrong hole you'll have a real bad time trust me what happens is your screw 00:12:54.880 --> 00:13:02.000 goes through the chassis it's a terrible time the bottom is a bit aluminum and 00:13:00.079 --> 00:13:06.800 some plastic as well once you're in here the upgrade ability looks fantastic so 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:10.880 we have our one SSD in here there's another spot for a second SSD if you 00:13:08.800 --> 00:13:13.440 want to upgrade your storage as for the RAM 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:18.880 there we go 16 gigabytes 4 800 megahertz there's 00:13:16.959 --> 00:13:23.680 also super easy access to the battery like i said before 99.9 watt hours it's 00:13:22.079 --> 00:13:27.519 as much as you can put in this laptop and still take it on a plane i have no 00:13:25.839 --> 00:13:32.160 clue how long the battery is going to last it's going to be dependent on so 00:13:30.079 --> 00:13:37.040 many things like if you turn down the refresh rate and don't use the GPU and 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:41.839 stuff you might be able to get a not embarrassing amount of time out of it if 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:45.760 you try and game like it'll be nothing you you'll be down in half an hour 00:13:43.920 --> 00:13:49.839 the heat pipe array in here is quite impressive we have what one two three 00:13:48.959 --> 00:13:55.440 four five six including vrm coolers love to 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:59.519 see that on the CPU they're so power hungry these days we also have nice big 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:04.720 heatsinks like you can see the way if they go out here those ones aren't too 00:14:02.800 --> 00:14:08.800 thick the ones on the sides are a little bit thicker 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:13.760 let's compare it to its sister laptop i'm excited to see the cooling system in 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:17.240 this one 150 watts is a lot for a GPU at 00:14:13.760 --> 00:14:17.240 least a laptop 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:22.480 okay there we go that did it 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:28.800 damn that's pretty i know that in a lot of laptops like you know the stealth 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:32.639 right here will make the heat pipes black i absolutely love it when they 00:14:30.880 --> 00:14:38.000 just leave it as bare copper it looks so pretty and like damn damn 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:41.120 that right there is how you get 150 watts out of your GPU i'm not even going 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:47.040 to touch it i don't want to make it look bad we also have again super easy access 00:14:44.560 --> 00:14:51.440 to your SSD there's one there's a spot for another one and there's a RAM 00:14:52.160 --> 00:14:58.560 also the heatsinks on this guy are massive look at those things there i 00:14:56.800 --> 00:15:03.199 don't know if you can really tell there it's quite a bit more cooling one final 00:15:00.959 --> 00:15:08.320 difference and this one's very important in the vector you only get a 65 watt 00:15:05.920 --> 00:15:12.399 hour battery again i don't know how long that's going to last you i haven't 00:15:10.079 --> 00:15:16.639 tested it personally but it's gonna be a lot less than the 99 watt hour in the 00:15:14.800 --> 00:15:20.880 stealth that is for sure which one would you guys want do you want the super 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:25.040 powerful one that also is cheaper or do you want the one with the nice track pad 00:15:22.959 --> 00:15:29.199 and the really pretty display let me know down below and huge thanks to MSI 00:15:27.040 --> 00:15:34.040 for sponsoring this video hit like get subscribed and see you 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