WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:09.200 This is how I used to eat breakfast. And this is how I eat breakfast now. See the 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:15.280 difference? Thanks to the Ryzen 7 9850X 3D, I now do everything 7.69% faster, 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:20.720 which doesn't sound like a big deal, but as far as mid-generation refreshes go, 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:22.640 this one is pretty all right. TLDDR. It 00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:27.680 costs a few dollars more for a chip that is by and large the same as the 9800 X3D 00:00:25.680 --> 00:00:31.199 that you already know and love, except it boosts its clock speeds higher, 00:00:29.439 --> 00:00:36.800 resulting in measurable gains across productivity and esports gaming. And it 00:00:33.680 --> 00:00:39.680 does so without running hotter or louder 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:43.360 or drawing a ton more power. Is it the most exciting chip launch we've ever 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:48.160 seen from AMD? No. But it never claimed to be. It's just some mid-generation 00:00:45.680 --> 00:00:52.000 fine wine aging for the AM5 platform while we wait for a true successor based 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:55.840 on Zen 6 toward the end of this year or early next. So with that in mind, let's 00:00:54.160 --> 00:01:01.359 take a look at performance to see who should be interested in the 9850X3D 00:00:58.879 --> 00:01:04.879 and maybe more importantly who should be holding on to their existing hardware 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:09.600 and saving their money. And also who should be checking out our sponsor, 00:01:06.479 --> 00:01:11.200 >> Jawa. With DDR5 getting so expensive, 00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:15.200 wouldn't it be nice to save a few bucks while upgrading your computer? Jawa is 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:19.680 an online gaming marketplace for buying and selling new and used accessories for 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:22.920 computers. There's more info in the link down below. 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:37.200 RTX5090s are in short supply, even here at LT. So, we set up four identical 00:01:34.240 --> 00:01:41.680 benches with RTX 4090s and got right to work on gaming performance, where AMD's 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:47.280 claims were immediately validated. The king got a little king glear with the 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:51.680 9850 X3D leading the pack across our entire suite of esports titles and 1080p 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:54.799 benchmarks. Now, I could spend the rest of my slideshow presentation here 00:01:53.119 --> 00:01:58.880 talking about the cases where it leads by a little bit and the ones where it 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:02.479 leads by a little bit more, but instead I'm simply going to say it wins and I'm 00:02:01.119 --> 00:02:07.200 going to use the rest of my time to explain why reviewers even bother to 00:02:04.880 --> 00:02:12.959 test like this. I mean, surely no one buying a $500 gaming CPU is going to be 00:02:09.920 --> 00:02:15.040 running at 1080p low on an RTX 4090, 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:19.920 right? Well, yeah, you're right. But we do this because we want to know which 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:21.760 chip is faster, period. Not which one 00:02:19.920 --> 00:02:25.920 handles better, not which one is more likely to impress the chicks at the 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:30.000 club. Which one is faster? And when you want to know which chip pumps out frames 00:02:28.160 --> 00:02:34.640 better, lowering both your resolution and your in-game details helps to 00:02:32.239 --> 00:02:39.840 isolate the CPU's game engine handling performance and really separate the 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:43.360 fastest chip from the almost fastest 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:45.599 chip. And AMD's 9850X3D is the fastest 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:49.440 gaming chip that we tested thanks to all of the things that made its predecessor 00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:54.400 processor the fastest before. Eight of AMD's Zen 5 cores coupled with ample 3D 00:02:52.160 --> 00:02:59.040 vcache creates a combo that puts both Intel's latest Core Ultra desktop chips 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:04.239 and their older 14th gen flagship to absolute shame. But does any of this 00:03:02.239 --> 00:03:09.200 matter? To answer that, we need to get a little more realistic both in terms of 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:14.239 in-game visuals and the realworld use cases for these chips. Let's step up 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:18.319 then to 1440p resolution and throw in some tests with ray tracing where uhoh, 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:23.280 the 9850X3D no longer sits alone at top the roost, 00:03:20.640 --> 00:03:27.680 king of his domain, but becomes simply another runner in the race. Still a very 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:32.879 fast chip, boasting the highest average FPS in both Counter-Strike 2 and Rocket 00:03:30.239 --> 00:03:37.920 League. So, it's clear then that once we start to introduce more variables, the 00:03:34.799 --> 00:03:40.159 story becomes muddier to say the least 00:03:37.920 --> 00:03:45.120 with certain games favoring some CPU architectures more than others and those 00:03:41.920 --> 00:03:47.519 advantages shrinking the more GPU eye 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:53.040 candy you turn on with ray tracing being the ultimate equalizer, bringing every 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:55.120 chip we tested within about 5% of the 00:03:53.040 --> 00:03:59.920 rest. Which isn't to say though that you should just buy any chip and expect 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:04.480 exactly the same experience. In the longer term, theoretically, a faster 00:04:02.239 --> 00:04:09.360 gaming chip will last you through more GPU upgrades, extending the time before 00:04:06.959 --> 00:04:13.760 your next platform upgrade. And with upscaling technology becoming more and 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:19.040 more important all the time, rendering high frame rates at lower resolutions 00:04:16.400 --> 00:04:23.520 and then upscaling them with AI could become increasingly important for 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:27.600 high-end gaming. Okay, then Linus. So, just buy the one at the top of the chart 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:32.080 then. Well, not that either. It's horses for courses. If all that matters to you 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:37.040 is the highest FPS at low or medium details or in esports titles, yeah, it 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:42.160 doesn't get any better than the 9850X3D. But for almost anyone else, we need to 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:46.320 at least think about the bigger picture. What about whole platform pricing? Where 00:04:44.320 --> 00:04:50.639 could I score a deal? Intel's older generation 12th gen CPUs are still 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:55.199 potent gaming chips and they support cheaper DDR4 memory. We'll have a full 00:04:52.880 --> 00:04:58.960 video on that coming soon. But the TLDDR is it's a pretty compelling value. Or if 00:04:57.520 --> 00:05:06.639 I'm willing to go to the secondhand market, 5700 X3D pricing has not spiked 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.639 nearly as high as 5800 X3Ds. And AM4 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:13.840 motherboards and matching DDR4 can be had for cheap. Add an open box 1440p 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:19.680 gaming monitor. And that's an entire platform refresh for the price of a 9850 00:05:16.479 --> 00:05:22.080 X3D CPU alone, which would leave plenty 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:26.160 of budget to get some nice new cables at ltstore.com. We'll have that link down 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:31.680 below. Of course, none of what I just said means the 9850 X3D is bad or a bad 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:35.600 deal. It's a bad CPU. No, it's not. The best of the best always comes at a 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:39.039 premium, and honestly, it's a better product than I thought it was going to 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:45.199 be. My initial reaction was h it's probably going to be a roided out 9800X 00:05:42.080 --> 00:05:47.440 3D and I expected a big boost to both 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:52.720 power draw and heat output in order for AMD to reach their lofty 5.6 GHz boost 00:05:50.880 --> 00:05:57.440 frequency targets. But that turned out to not be the case. In our Cinebench 00:05:54.639 --> 00:06:01.840 power draw test, AMD's finest hit higher clock speeds than its predecessor while 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:06.560 running ever so slightly cooler and drawing ever so slightly less power. We 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:11.759 didn't see quite the same thing in F-124. Power draw was actually up a 00:06:09.520 --> 00:06:15.520 little bit on average, but still both of these results are so close that it is 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:20.319 safe to say that this is not a meaningfully more power- hungry chip, 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:24.160 and it does clock noticeably higher. This translates to a better experience 00:06:21.919 --> 00:06:28.720 outside of games as well, where the 9850 X3D consistently beats its 50less cousin 00:06:26.960 --> 00:06:32.800 across both our productivity and our creative benchmarks with small victories 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.479 in multi-threaded workloads and larger ones in singlethreaded applications 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:39.600 where it really gets to flex its boosted clock speed. It's worth noting, by the 00:06:37.919 --> 00:06:43.440 way, we didn't run our entire suite here since these X3D chips really are 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:46.800 marketed primarily towards gaming, but we still wanted to show a snapshot of 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:50.479 what they're capable of outside of games. Now, I'm not going to go into 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:54.319 this too much, but Intel's core count advantage translates into some really 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:57.759 lopsided results in our multi-threaded benchmarks. And that's with their last 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.400 gen Core Ultra. Can't wait to see what happens when their new architecture 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:05.280 makes its way from mobile to the desktop. Core Ultra NextG versus Zen 6 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:11.280 is going to be a heck of a battle. Of course, that's a story for tomorrow. The 00:07:07.599 --> 00:07:13.039 story for today is Ryzen 7 9850X3D. 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:17.520 It's a little faster and it costs a little more. Not the most exciting chip, 00:07:15.520 --> 00:07:20.960 but certainly better than AMD simply resting on their laurels and waiting for 00:07:19.039 --> 00:07:24.080 Intel to close the gap. And I was really impressed to see that their 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:28.479 manufacturing has improved so much in the last year that they can do this 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:33.680 without juicing power consumption. Now, to juice this segue to our sponsor, 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:38.080 >> Jawa. Jawa is an online marketplace where you can buy and sell both new and 00:07:36.080 --> 00:07:41.360 used computers, parts, and peripherals. So, if you're sitting on some old parts 00:07:39.599 --> 00:07:45.199 from your last upgrade, maybe now is the time for looking into selling them to 00:07:42.960 --> 00:07:49.199 snag a few extra bucks for your pockets. 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