{"video_id":"4A0Iks4ENIs","title":"Intel 7700K - Complacent CPU or Ryzen Killer?","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2017-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":520,"segments":[{"start_s":0.16,"end_s":6.72,"text":"While most of the hype in the CPU world right now is centered around AMD's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3.919,"end_s":11.84,"text":"upcoming ryzen release Intel has no plans to take that lying down and has","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.12,"end_s":16.2,"text":"just unveiled their seventh generation core processors for desktop code name","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.96,"end_s":21.149,"text":"kbl","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":24.0,"end_s":30.199,"text":"Lake evga's dg-87 full tower case","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.8,"end_s":34.52,"text":"features optimized airf flow pathing to help keep your Hardware cool check 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some of our merch you can see that in the link down below also there's a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":506.479,"end_s":513.12,"text":"link to Amazon where you can buy whatever process your heart desires and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":511.68,"end_s":518.8,"text":"if you want to see another video check out this one which is actually not a lus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":516.159,"end_s":521.8,"text":"seps video this is a Channel Super Fun video","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"While most of the hype in the CPU world right now is centered around AMD's upcoming ryzen release Intel has no plans to take that lying down and has just unveiled their seventh generation core processors for desktop code name kbl Lake evga's dg-87 full tower case features optimized airf flow pathing to help keep your Hardware cool check it out at the link in the video description they claim to be taking Computing to the next level but I'm pretty sure marketing guys would just get fired if they don't say that kind of stuff only performance will tell whether a shiny new KB Lake will be worth 350 of your hard-earned dollars we'll be looking at Intel's newest consumer grade Flagship the core i77700 K and if you think that just means the usual features you know quad core hyperthreading and overclockability on Z series chipsets well Sarah you'd be 100% correct out of the box there's a bump on the clock speed compared to its Skylake predecessor the 6700k and you also get Intel HD graphics 630 as opposed to 530 though if you spend this kind of money on a high-end i7 you're probably using discret Graphics from the likes of NVIDIA or AMD anyways so to find the differences we clearly need to dig a bit deeper there doesn't seem to be much else on paper to separate these chips they have the same TDP of 91 Watts the same 16 P Lanes and even the same manufacturing process the old Tick Tock Cadence meant a new process so smaller processors every 2 years but kbl lake is still using the same 14 nanometer finfet transistors we've had since Broadwell in 2014 so at this point I wouldn't blame you for not being mega super excited about the 7700k itself but that doesn't mean there isn't anything worth talking about with respect to the platform one thing that will be immediately relevant to a lot of folks that own a 4K display will be the ability to watch Netflix in 4k this is thanks to a new DRM scheme that I'm sure consumers will just love because it has nothing to do with processing power at all and everything to do with a special hardware-based decoder that can only be found in kbl lak CPUs at this time on the subject of 4K content you also get 4k 10bit video decoding through the vp9 codec used by YouTube so if you have a monitor with 10bit color and a supported video card you can get smoother color transitions when watching supported content very cool perhaps more interesting than that is support for optane which is Intel's version of 3D Cross Point a new type of memory with cells that are packed more densely meaning higher capacities and faster speeds that is expected to perform somewhere between system RAM and an SSD pretty freaking cool but kind of like SATA Express back in the day there's no word on if and when we'll see it on consumer PCS but hopefully we'll get this one there are also new chipsets we tested our CPU on an ASUS Rog Maximus 99 code featuring The Zed 270 chipset which adds native support for USB 3.1 10 gbit and an additional 4 PCI Express 3.0 Lanes which is actually a welcome change considering how popular P based storage is becoming in the form of tiny and increasingly affordable m.2 drives some other fun features of this board spefic specifically include a water flow sensor a USB 3.1 10 GB front panel header Aura and Aura sync to add some RGB to your case reinforced PCI Express slots for heavy gpus and a built-in headphone amplifier but enough chitchat did this 7700k Z 2712 punch impress us with its performance gains we compared it to a Skylake 6700k both at stock and at overclocked speeds using ASUS's AI tuner automatic overclock and setting temperature and voltage targets to 80° and 1.35 volts to keep things safe which gave us 4.9 GHz on kbl lake and 4.6 on Skylake let us know in the comments if you'd like a full OC guide including manual tuning in the future let's start with thermals and power draw temperatures were quite similar though kbl Lake showed a slight Improvement at load though both chips were comfortably below below their thermal throttling point in Ida 64 kbl lak similarly showed a small Improvement in power draw nothing dramatic and it won't affect your system build planning since it's easy to run an Enthusiast single graphics card system on an inexpensive 450 to 500 wat power supply anyways now let's dive into performance numbers our synthetics which included CPU Mark y cruncher cin bench and Rog re bench showed Lake offering improvements of about 5 to 7% across the board including in single-threaded applications which isn't terrible but isn't horribly impressive either and when you compare KB lake at stock versus our overclocked Skylake chip which ran within 100 MHz of each other the Gap becomes smaller making these improvements an even more minor selling point for enthusiasts who well overclock gaming performance wasn't much different as there was no appreciable difference between Generations when gaming with a discret GTX 1080 with kbl Lake actually performing slightly worse in some situations for Onboard video efficient Autos the integrated HD 630 Graphics do show a small improvement over Skylake but the 1 to two extra frames per second don't really make it viable for for new AAA titles bringing us to the conclusion these small improvements don't make KB Lake a bad platform if you liked last year's Madden game you'll probably like the new one with all the updated player stats and special team jerseys too they just mean that kbl Lake 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