What you're seeing right now is five, count them, five instances of Cyberpunk
2077 running on one system. Eh, not that
impressive. But what if I told you that in the background we are also running
Cinebench and encoding our screen cap
using OBS and running this new fangled bonsai buddy. Holy this thing is
absolutely incredible. And the craziest part is we're still getting playable
frame rates in all five of our Cyberpunk
instances. This is the power of AMD's
Threadripper Pro 9995WX.
It has 96 CPU cores that can run at up
to 5.4 GHz. It has 384 MGB of level 3
cache and with the click of a button, it can boost its default 350 W power draw
to over 800 watts. That is well beyond
the limits of even this water cooling solution. That's why we brought this
freshly repaired water chiller to explore the limits of the most
ridiculous desktop CPU on the planet and
to see just how far we can push past them. The CPU is at 95°
and it's pulling 1,900 W. >> This is terrifying. But first, I had to
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we can break the performance limits of modern computing, we've got to know
exactly where they are. So, let's back up to just a few months ago when we
looked at AMD's topofthe-line Threadripper nonpro 9980X.
This 64 core monster, it turns out, was
just [snorts] the appetizer. This one is quite literally like putting one and a
half of these into the same motherboard socket. Or maybe a slightly different
motherboard socket if you want to get the most of it. More on that later.
First, let's take a look at the carrier vessel that Falcon Northwest sent over
for us to check it out in. This is the Falcon Northwest Talon. And oh my
tabernacle, is it ever gorgeous. They
did not have to do it up in this sick custom UV printed case inspired by our
UV reactive LAN collection ltstore.com.
But the Mad Lads did it anyway. And that is the least crazy thing about this
system. We're going to talk a lot about the Threadripper Pro 995WX and its
ludicrous 96 cores. But first, let's take a moment to admire the rest of this
build. Let's get this side panel. Oh wow.
I can't find anything solid enough to get it to make a metal sound, but
oo wow, that really hurt. Actually, that is a thick piece of aluminum. Damn. Wow,
that cable management. This is a 1600 W
power supply. And if you really look in there, there's lots of cables plugged
into it. They just do an incredible job of hiding them away. When I built a test
bench using the same platform, it looked like one of those Sentinel things from
the Matrix. The other side is no less
gorgeous. 128 gigs of DDR56400
ECC memory and has tripled in value
since Falcon sent us this system. And another big difference compared to your
system at home is these are running in a quad channel configuration rather than
dual channel which doubles their bandwidth. And if that sounded crazy,
wait till you see us running the Threadripper Pro in 8 channel. Wait, why
aren't we doing that now? It's because while the ASUS ProWS TRX50 Sage Wi-Fi
motherboard in here can work with both Threadripper and Threadripper Pro, its
feature set is more targeting regular Threadripper. If you want to get the
most out of a Threadripper Pro, you need a WRX90 motherboard. It has the
same physical socket, but a different chipset. More on that later. First,
we've got three 4 TBTE Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe Gen 5 SSDs in RAID zero. I
don't think Falcon would ever really recommend that. They were just showing
off on this system. And then for our GPU, we've got something that I've
actually never seen before. This is the RTX Pro 6000. Pretty much it's a Wolf in
Business Suit clothing. It's a 5090, but
[music] instead of having 32 gigs of VRAM, it has 96 GB of VRAM. It also has
about 10% more CUDA cores, runs [music] faster, and all that memory is ECC. Kind
of want to do a full review of this thing. It's the kind of stuff NVIDIA just does not send out for evaluation
because if you need it, you have a team of people to evaluate hardware for you
and you pay for your evals until you reach an even bigger scale. Finally, for
cooling, it uses an AIO liquid cooler from Silverstone with a 280 mm radiator
and a custom CPU block that is specifically designed for Threadripper
processors. And at the default power profile, it does great as we're about to
see. But I think we're going to need more. Let's fire this thing up. Starting
with Blender Monster, where we got nearly 25% reduction in render times. I
mean, guys, look at this. This is not running on the GPU. That's insane. 52
1/2 seconds. That is over 10 seconds faster than the top-of-the-line Thread
Ripper nonpro. Look at this thing rip up threads like a pro. Or does it?
Cinebench. And actually, a lot of our benchmark numbers look dangerously close
to the same results we got with the 9980X.
You know, the [snorts] $5,000 processor, the one for nonprofessionals. Well, as
it turns out, that's kind of by design.
See, AMD allows you to put this bad boy
in a peasant consumer TRX50 motherboard,
but they don't really want you to. This is the ASUS ProWS WRX90E Sage SE and
it's the big brother to the motherboard that we used in our 9980X review. This
is possibly the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. [music] In fairness to
me, it's been almost 10 years since my last child was born, so I can hardly remember how beautiful that was. The
first thing you might notice about this board is that flanking the CPU socket
are not four, but eight memory slots,
each running its own channel. That gives it up to four times the theoretical
bandwidth of a desktop dual channel motherboard. The next thing you might
notice is that it has a grand total of seven PCIe by 16 slots. But unlike your
typical gaming motherboard where those are going to be running at often lower
speeds or lower generations of PCIe,
every single one of these is gen 5 and
the full 16 lanes. So, you could literally put single slot water blocks
on seven GPUs in here. And I assume you
could because if you can afford this motherboard, you can afford seven GPUs,
too. Lucky you. Oh, man. The next thing
I was going to show you guys was all the M.2 slots, but I just cut my finger open
on the IO, so I guess we'll move over there. Oh,
buddy. One lonely USB 2 is accompanied
by a whopping six USB 10 gig ports, two
USB 440 gig ports with DisplayPort
injection, dual 10 gig networking ports with a gigabit management port, and look
at that convenient little clear seamos button right on the back. I'm going to
need that band-aid now. Thank you. Damn it. And if you thought we were done with
Crazy IO, check this out. Every one of
these M.2 two slots is also at Gen 5.
And because they just had extra lanes and no idea what to do with them, we've
got a couple of slim SAS ports that are also Gen 4x4 each. Next to the 24 pin
motherboard power connector, you will find two additional PCIe 8 pin
connectors. Those are to provide extra power in case you actually load this
thing up with PCIe cards. Then at the top, things get even more nuts because
there's not one, not two, not three, but four power plugs for the CPU. Two normal
CPU EPS connectors, and the other two PCIe 8 pin again. All for this bad boy.
But it's only 350 W. Why could it possibly need all of that? Because once
we unlock it, it'll be a lot more than 350 watts. That's why. How much is that
worth these days? >> When I wrote the script, it was 6,000. When we started shooting, it was 10,000.
And now it's $17,000 of RAM. 1 TB DDDR5 ECC 5600 mega
transfers per second. The crazy part is this isn't even cutting edge speed. This
is like last gen speed. So we're not even quite getting the most out of this
CPU. But when we asked someone to send us over even a loner of modern RAM to
put in it, they laughed. Yeah. All
right. Here we go. If I don't do it right, it'll bite me again. So, >> do you want more goop?
>> Yeah, I'll take a little bit more goop. No keyboard detected. Now, please press
F1 to continue. You American Mega Trends. Here we go. Royce,
>> I like this. If we go into Ryzen master and we hit apply on the overclock 350 W
to 2,000 watt power limit. >> Uh, that would not work with that pitily
triple radiator. We're not even going to try running it at stock. Well, I mean, we ran it at stock in the other one.
Yeah. >> But did you guys get numbers for how it runs at stock? Just having 8 channel
memory instead of quad channel? >> Yes. And you'll see massive improvements
in memorybound benchmarks, things like sevenzip or even like Yuncher if you
have to load in a bunch of stuff, >> right? >> Because you have that nearly double the
bandwidth. Even with the slower, higher latency RAM in here, there's still a
massive increase in throughput just due to eight channels. >> But we want more. Do,000 watts there.
>> Oh my god, that's insane. And then it
flips once it gets past >> 1,000. It goes, nope. It just errored
out. Also, 38.82 seconds. Did we hit 90° on a water
cooler? The water's heating up that fast. Yeah. Right. Because the pump
speed is the same, which means that from one run to the next, the load is the
same and the pump speed is the same. So, if it's running 3 4° hotter, that means
the water is 3 4° hotter, which kind of makes sense because this is not that
much water. Okay, how about Cinebench? We're idling at 40 now. That's how much
hotter our water is. It's gone up like 7 degrees since we've been sitting here.
>> We're also idling at 122 watts on the
CPU, which to be clear is the TDP of a
9800 X3D. >> Yeah. >> What score are we trying to beat here?
>> Running stock. >> Okay. >> So, that's 7,387.
>> I feel like we're going to beat that. What would a Threadripper nonpro hit?
>> Threadripper nonpro hits 6,671.
Okay, I can already tell that this is insane how fast those boxes are
finishing. This is crazy. >> Yeah, this like usually takes like maybe
10 minutes on like a consumer CPU to finish this one image.
>> This is going to finish in less than a minute. Does AMD ever get tired of
winning? 8727.
Just shy of 9,000 points. That's clears
it by a ton. That's almost like a quarter better. It's more than 20%
better over 350 W. You're paying a lot for the power to do that.
>> You can afford it. [laughter] Have we told them how much the CPU costs yet?
>> 13Kish. Okay. Our top one is 94°. Okay.
What frequency are we? You've got to be kidding me. It's running at 4.8 GHz
across the board. Oh, Cinebench isn't even that heavy of a load. Evidently,
just shy of 800 W. Do you think it could do more? Oh, with better cooling.
>> Yeah, >> I feel like we've got to be capped here. Let's do 7zip cuz that's going to
benefit from both the increased power to the CPU and the increased RAM.
>> 128 out of 192. Am I reading this right?
11 12 1/2 GB per second. [laughter]
>> Yeah, that's the decompression rate. Let's go to 13. It's kind of fluctuating
up, so it could be high. >> By the time it finishes the test, it settles in at about 11 1/2 each time.
>> Compare that to the quad channel memory. >> We're more than double.
>> More than double. >> I knew file decompression was memory
limited, but that much? >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. And what about the
compression? How are we doing there? >> 600 megabytes a second.
>> 600. >> 600. Yeah. >> Compared to the 9980X almost actually
50% faster. >> So, we're getting the full benefit of those cores. Like full benefit. How do
they build this? AMD TSMC tour. Maybe
talk to your buds, get it arranged. We'd love to do it. How are we doing this
with only 128 threads, though? It's not even using all of the CPU cores. It's
just all the extra memory bandwidth. I guess the me memory bandwidth and the
extra clock speeds. I guess we got room to breathe, assuming we got room to
cool. All right, let's do it. Let's hook up the chiller. Go, Bruce. Chillis, it's
been a while. It's set to 5° C, which is probably a little low if we're trying to
avoid condensation. We haven't insulated the board in any way. So, why don't we
start around 14? Oh, we already overshot
it. Brilliant. Good job, Bruce. Bruce,
uh, is that on? >> Yeah. Okay, because we're going to need
to start putting some heat into this thing. You need to calm down.
>> Okay, let's just do Cinebench for now. I don't know if we're going to get any more speed out of it.
>> Not without actually changing the CPU multiplier, I don't think.
>> Yeah. >> And every single core is pinned at 4.8
GHz. And now that our coolant temperature is under control, we're
peaking at 51°.
Isn't it crazy to imagine that you have 500 amps and 800 watts going through
those tiny little pins on the back of the CPU? Bring back the blender. Oh,
wait. Did we get a score? >> 8311. Not as not as good. You know what
was hurting our scores though that I forgot? Cuz I got higher scores without it. We were OBS. Screen cap was hurting
our scores a little bit. >> We're using the GPU for the screen recording though, right?
>> It's still does distract your CPU a
little bit. 3825. So, we are getting full performance in Blender.
>> Yep. And we peaked at,30 watts. Oh, what
was our peak temps there? 74 was our hottest. >> Let's go for smart clock speed. Let's
turn off OBS so we don't have anything running in the background to the BIOS
copter. Ah, the BIOS. Tweakers paradise they
used to call it. They still call it that. Apparently they do. It's still
there. That's great. Now look, a
platform like this is going to have all kinds of arcane voltages and settings
that you can play around with to get the absolute most out of them. But today,
we're not getting into any of that. So, we're going to be laser focused on just
a handful of settings. Our CPU core ratio we're going to set to almost
exactly 50, just a little bit over. And we are going to disable any VRM
throttling and peak current control.
We're going to give this thing as much current as it could possibly ask for.
>> Oh, and we're going to change the thermal limit. >> Ah, yes. Usually at 90, we're going to
bump it up to 110. >> You hooked up a second power supply.
>> Uh, wait, no, >> no, you didn't. >> This was just in case we wanted to game
on it. I don't think the CPU could handle the slight voltage difference if
they were both hooked up to two different power supplies. >> No, but we could hook the second one up
to the GPU. >> That's the plan. >> Oh, yeah. I'm ready.
>> Jumper to 20°. >> Oh god. >> 300 1,000.
>> We're still at 1100 watts. I thought we were going to get more power.
>> Yeah. Well, Cinebench isn't really that hard to run, apparently. 8242,
>> but that's not as fast as the other one we did. If you want something that's going to hit it way harder and might
show will show a better improvement. We could probably see that in Blender because that was the other one that
benefited the most from PBO. >> We're only going to get a benefit here on loads that can't take advantage of a
few cores boosting up even higher. >> Exactly. >> So, the way we've tuned it now is really
only useful for multi multi-threaded
workloads, which I mean I thought Cinebench was one, but I guess you just
don't have enough threads for me, Cinebench. Okay, let's see how Blender
does. Our time to beat for Blender is 39. >> All right. Are you ready?
>> Yeah. >> The CPU is at 95°
>> and it's pulling 1,900 W. >> This is terrifying. Did you say we're in
a 1,600 W power supply? >> Yeah. >> I mean, we're well beyond the measurable
range for CPU package power. That just doesn't work. >> So, the only prescribed limit right now
in the BIOS is 2,000 W. >> 35.88.
>> 10% would be about 4 seconds. That's about a 10% improvement. If we pull up
something more aggressive like Prime 95 though, we will find that we're
thermally constrained. >> Will we? >> Yes. Or maybe even power constraint.
>> Will we?
And there it goes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just fully rebooted. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That makes sense.
>> I'm amazed that at no point did our power supply trip >> and our breaker for that matter.
>> If we're going to want to run a game, it might be in our best interest to use a
second power supply for that guy. >> Okay, cool. Brilliant. So, we could fire
up Cyberpunk, but I think the game everyone wants to know about is City
Skylines 2. Can the Threadripper 9995WX
finally tame this hot pile of City? 500
watts in City Skylines 2. Hottest is 90
85° C. We're using 3% of our memory,
[laughter] >> but somehow 26% of our CPU and it's
still chugging. This isn't even that big of a city. Have they still not fixed
this thing? >> No. This game like it's just impossible to run because it's so broken at a core
level like me that um it'll just never
really work properly. Like this is not even high graphics settings.
>> We're running at 1080p. This is the most powerful computer. It just doesn't
matter when the the game is the bottleneck. Cyberpunk theoretically,
right? If you're not familiar with this card, it's possible that NVIDIA's
professional drivers, they just ain't that good at gaming. So, let's see. That
ray trace lighting though, boys, >> that looks great.
>> That does look great. >> 90 FPS.
>> Oh god, he [laughter] officer. >> Officer, he jumped right in front of my
car. >> You are the police. You don't have to worry. >> That was not my fault. >> It's 100% legal. Just run him over and
make sure he can't he can't testify against you.
In conclusion, this thing is a next level beast. So powerful that we
struggled to find benchmarks that could even use all of its cores while still
being relatable to consumers in any way. But spending more on our computer
doesn't necessarily make for a smoother experience. We had issues with
motherboards, with the RAM controller, with PBO performance optimization. See,
the core problem here is that both HDT or high-end desktop and workstation are
relatively small niches of hardcore compute folks, folks who are going to be
expected to go and chase support from the system integrator or the V who
provided their equipment. So, yeah, it's
a bummer that enthusiasts can't buy these Threadripper Pro chips from
official sources. But even if they could, it'd be hard to recommend them to
anyone who isn't making copious amounts of money with their PC. So, it's time
for the uncomfortable conversation if you missed it earlier. This chip goes
for somewhere around $12,000
if you can find a source for it, which AMD will not give you officially. You
add a terabyte of RAM for another 10 grand plus. I mean, who knows what's
going on with that. and I don't know, a couple of pro NVIDIA GPUs for 10gs plus
a pop and all of a sudden a WRX automobile starts to look more practical
than a WRX computer. But for the folks
who need this kind of performance, like you're a university or an engineering
lab and you need to run simulations, sure, you could book access to the
supercomput or you could have 25 meetings to get a server in the
university rack. Or you could just have one meeting, get this thick boy in your
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time runs out. If you guys enjoyed this video, why not check out the time we
looked at the slightly more attainable Threadripper Nonpro 9980X.
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