1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,080 and welcome to the wan show ladies and 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,559 gentlemen this is a bit of a tale in between my legs show and i'll be talking 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:16,240 about that in a little bit more detail later but um 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,240 we made a video that you guys didn't like very much and i feel like i need to 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:24,960 address that um youtube also rolled out some new 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:29,279 stuff new copyright claim system and new monetization efforts which is cool 7 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:34,000 and there's some other kind of general you know intel's doing some rumory stuff 8 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:37,120 and nintendo switch light was announced and other fun things 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,760 yeah we've actually got a lot of great topics for you guys today uh jono did 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,079 the lan show document and well he also did it last week which was part of the 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:50,000 reason that we didn't really didn't have anything to talk about last week whoa but that's okay because uh i gave him 12 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:53,600 some coaching this week and he checked in with me about the topics ahead of 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:59,039 time and i think there's actually some some discussion meeting here uh there's 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:01,920 a bit of a 15 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:06,960 a non-controversy which to me in and of itself is 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:13,280 kind of controversial um so amd said that pci express gen 4 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,640 would not work on previous generation motherboards 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:20,320 and then asus went out and published a list of previous gen boards that 19 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:25,680 it'll work on and it's it's a funny thing because um i 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:31,040 think that amd fanboys aren't really going to like my take on this but 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:35,920 my my feeling is that if the same thing had happened with intel 22 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:39,280 people would be shrieking about it and now that it's happening with amd it's 23 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,400 like oh that's pretty cool so 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,079 let's get let's get to that a little bit later but first let's go ahead and roll 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:50,280 the intro and uh we'll chat about these topics in a little bit here all right 26 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,960 uh 27 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:16,000 uh okay was it just one go ahead and pop 28 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:20,000 that up there kind of looks like it was just one and 29 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:25,680 back to us okay so 30 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,440 um why don't we jump right into 31 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,760 the video that we uploaded today so this is something 32 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:36,319 that i've actually addressed on the lan show in the past i'm just gonna fire it 33 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:40,879 up on my laptop here hopefully my my screen sharing is working here 34 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,959 um here we go 35 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:48,239 value noise cancelling headphones so there were a couple of things that went 36 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,519 wrong today i'm watching it you can do this uh yeah thank you appreciate that 37 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:56,160 so a couple of things that went wrong today first of all 38 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:00,319 oh yeah the video went up with entirely the wrong title um okay 39 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:02,959 yes we see that there's a little bit of lag on the youtube stream we are now 40 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:07,840 sort of way beyond not having an explanation for 41 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:13,120 it because the entire rancho pc has been swapped out there's a 42 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:15,120 cpu gpu yeah and it's it's even we used 43 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,640 to be on x264 encoding and now we're on nvenc 44 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:23,920 um it couldn't actually be any different than it is now we are back on the old 45 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,840 ethernet cable yeah also the uh like 46 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:29,599 re-transmitting server this yeah the splitter uh there was like some a little 47 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:33,680 bit of funkery there but that's all been updated and fixed and worked on and was 48 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:39,360 tested for the last half hour on a separate account yeah so it's starting 49 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:41,040 to get to the point where um 50 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:45,040 robert by the way know your super chat is not pre-recorded so it's starting to 51 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:49,040 get to the point where it's just like not really funny anymore yeah 52 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,360 we're just gonna have to power through the show here though guys 53 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:57,200 realistically twitch is probably better uh so you can head over to twitch and 54 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:01,760 watch there we still have no explanation for why that would be yeah uh anyway so 55 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:06,159 i'm gonna go ahead and pull up the video that we did today so this video 56 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:10,000 was called and this was mistake number one it was called why is everybody 57 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:15,200 buying these headphones which was actually just one of those complete 58 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:19,600 bone-headed errors and i'm not going to throw anyone under the bus but i think 59 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:24,720 we can all guess who it is that usually makes those particularly egregious 60 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:29,280 errors on the channel and never actually does get fired because i love him so 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:33,680 much um anyway someone grabbed the wrong title i 62 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:38,000 have no idea where it came from i actually did see that that title was on 63 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,800 the pre-release video file but i didn't really think anything of it i thought 64 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:45,280 maybe just one of the editors was confused about it and named the file 65 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,440 that and that like the the file name is not generally anything to do with the 66 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:55,840 actual name of the video once we go live but somehow it ended up with the name 67 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,600 of a series that we run on the channel 68 00:04:55,840 --> 00:05:03,199 why is everybody buying this x that has never been sponsored before 69 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:08,639 whether it's sponsored by the retailer that we got it from or sponsored by the 70 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:13,440 the product that we featured it has never been sponsored before uh by 71 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:18,240 either of those two parties like third party sponsors sure you know your savage 72 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:23,039 jerky or whatever the case may be so that created initially a ton of 73 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:27,280 confusion and a ton of upset because all of a sudden we had a sponsored showcase 74 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:30,960 video to see whatever corner it is right there 75 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:35,600 sponsored by taotronics that seemed to be disguised as editorial 76 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:41,199 content something that we actually work really hard to not have happen which is 77 00:05:38,479 --> 00:05:45,039 why thankfully at least at the beginning i oh actually i'm not sure i believe the 78 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:49,759 word showcase was already in there but it is supposed to be so if there's a 79 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,440 video that is just like here's information about a product but it's 80 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:58,080 sponsored by that company or by that product or by somewhere to get it it is 81 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:02,960 supposed to be clearly displayed in the title of the video so that you know and 82 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,600 in the video as as it is down in whatever corner i'm so oh it's not even 83 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,560 there that way my corner uh sponsored by 84 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:14,000 tautron okay so that was problem number one that people had with the video as 85 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,080 soon as nick was actually the one who spotted it as soon as nick saw that the 86 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,919 title wasn't right he had it changed this is what it was supposed to be value 87 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:25,199 noise cancelling headphones sound surge 46 showcase 88 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:30,479 okay oops so that one's pretty straightforward whoops are bad 89 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:35,840 the other one is a little bit more difficult to address and i feel like i'm 90 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:40,080 almost gonna have to do a complete video talking about this at some point in the 91 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:46,080 future because there seems to be a lot of confusion in people's minds about the 92 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:50,720 way that we handle our sponsored content so we made the decision it must 93 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:56,880 have been about a year ago now to start doing what we called uh showcases which 94 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:02,400 are essentially what most of the rest of the industry that is youtube 95 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:05,919 personalities is doing where essentially 96 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:08,240 there's some product or some service and 97 00:07:05,919 --> 00:07:12,400 there's a sponsorship involved and you're basically given 98 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,960 a bullet point list of things to say about it 99 00:07:13,599 --> 00:07:18,720 so our way of reconciling that because 100 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:24,160 obviously that's not editorial content that's not um you know 101 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:28,800 my opinion um the way that we reconciled that was okay here's the deal 102 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:33,120 audience we're gonna do these but we're gonna do them as extra releases so 103 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:38,479 you'll notice this video went up on a friday so instead of the linus tech tips 104 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,360 channel getting six normal videos plus wan show for a total of seven that's one 105 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,919 every day it was actually six normal videos plus 106 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:51,840 this one plus wan show so there were a total of eight videos so we didn't want 107 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:56,960 these sponsored showcases the sponsored content to interfere with our regular 108 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,680 upload schedule we didn't want you guys to feel like you were getting cheated 109 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:06,639 and you were missing out on an editorial or a project-based piece of content 110 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:11,360 because we had decided to do one of these showcases so that was number one 111 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,039 was we didn't want it to affect the volume of content that you guys get that 112 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:18,319 is our usual type 113 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:25,680 number two was we wanted to separate our opinion which 114 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:31,840 cannot be purchased from air time on our channel which can be 115 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:36,399 purchased so when i talk about buying airtime you are in much the same way 116 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:41,039 that you would sponsor a podcast or a radio show you are paying for the host 117 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:45,440 to read your talking points be it about savage jerky ridge wallet 118 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:49,120 the elgato stream deck or you know any number of other other 119 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:53,560 brands and products that have that have sponsored our show yeah sure ltx 120 00:08:54,480 --> 00:09:01,040 the distinction then is you can pay for 121 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:02,880 words to be said but you cannot pay for 122 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:08,320 an opinion so that's where i feel like people are 123 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:13,440 really allowing the waters to get muddied in their minds 124 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:17,680 between reviews and sponsored videos 125 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:21,600 so a lot of the complaints about this video aside from the ones about the 126 00:09:19,839 --> 00:09:25,839 title being wrong and it really was that was absolutely our mistake and we're 127 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:30,480 sorry that's our bad um a lot of the complaints 128 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:34,240 are that we didn't give an opinion this is this is a you know i could hear 129 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,519 i'm just gonna i'm gonna scroll down and find something here because i'm sure it 130 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:42,320 won't be that hard okay here's one that i pinned because i did respond to him 131 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:46,000 um so what other than the requested sponsored talking points can you give us 132 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:50,720 anything of your own or are you just reading off their marketing material 133 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:56,800 the answer is i am reading off their marketing material and when it comes to 134 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,399 any other sponsored piece of content so 135 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:02,959 are they that's how it works 136 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,680 anytime i were to give you guys an opinion in a sponsored piece of content 137 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:10,480 i'm not talking about like picking it up like so here's a ridge 138 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:16,320 wallet you know it's made of carbon fiber feels pretty solid i am demonstrating that 139 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,959 it's solid yes i'm saying it feels pretty solid to me or whatever but that 140 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:25,760 is a that is a demonstrable objective fact it's it's really well built that's 141 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:28,240 not really an opinion even though it's being presented in the form of an 142 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:34,399 opinion um and so any time 143 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,920 we are giving an uh if we were to give opinions in our sponsored content then 144 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:45,920 we create a really awkward and a really dangerous 145 00:10:42,079 --> 00:10:49,200 crossover between a review and that is a 146 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,120 word that we use very carefully a review 147 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:56,480 cannot be sponsored by the subject of the review because there is an inherent 148 00:10:54,240 --> 00:11:01,760 obvious conflict of interest that prevents any information in that review 149 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:07,519 from being taken at its face value so we keep a review separate from a sponsored 150 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,600 showcase because yes that is exactly 151 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:13,040 what a sponsored video is now 152 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:18,320 some sponsors in fact howtronics was one of them do allow us to give you guys 153 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:23,760 useful information we did mention some of the more negative points of those 154 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,959 headphones in the video and in fact we run into this a lot of the time 155 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:31,279 especially brands that wear their their big kid pants and are 156 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:35,760 willing to take criticism we'll even allow it in a sponsored video but what 157 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:40,399 you guys need to understand is that every brand 158 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,959 towtronic cisco intel amd nvidia anyone that we've ever worked with over the 159 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:48,640 years has a say in a sponsored piece of content so 160 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:53,040 anything that is in that finished video and this goes not just for us but any 161 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,120 channel that you watch at least the ones where at least they disclose it any 162 00:11:54,959 --> 00:12:00,720 channel you watch that does a sponsored video 163 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,720 the brand that sponsored it had to say and if there was something they didn't 164 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:08,639 like it was probably removed depending on the contract i would say with 165 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:11,839 98 certainty that would have been removed i 166 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,680 mean there are going to be creators out there that have more power that have 167 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,200 more weight to throw around and say no this is my artistic vision it stays and 168 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:23,360 we've been able to throw that weight around a fair number of times but 169 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:28,000 sometimes it doesn't work or the contract isn't 170 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,040 favorable or whatever the case may be so be clear about it not working just 171 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:35,279 because i feel like this could get misconstrued in some way if it doesn't 172 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:38,160 work the video just doesn't come out it's not like 173 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,200 he'll say something that he strongly doesn't believe in and release the video 174 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,560 anyways just he's like well they strong-armed me the video just won't come out and the contract will not be 175 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:50,800 made and that has happened yeah um like has 100 happen yes 176 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,000 um so then so you know addressing a few more 177 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:59,040 of the most upvoted comments here because i feel like this is a really important topic not just on our channel 178 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,880 but in general it's something that's really important for you guys to understand 179 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:06,959 um so why is everyone okay no yeah sorry 180 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:09,760 that was about the title it's uh super this is an ad with no actual content wtf 181 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:15,120 yes that's why it says sponsored by taotronics and that's why it says 182 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:19,040 showcase in the title because at the end of the day that's basically what it is 183 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:23,760 and the wtf is this was an extra piece of content we labeled it with showcase 184 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:27,279 after the fact and i'm really sorry about that we labeled it with showcase 185 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,360 if you don't want to see it don't watch it 186 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:35,519 that really is our stance on them something i want to throw in personally 187 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:39,120 as a technically outside person on this is i hadn't watched this at all sat here 188 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:41,920 and watched part of it before the show there are parts of the video where you 189 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,959 criticize it i know you mentioned this earlier people are saying there's 190 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:49,040 literally no points that aren't in the sponsor spot there's like 191 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,399 no way that's true because they're not going to put in the sponsor spot hey 192 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:54,880 this button is i don't remember exactly how you worded it but not great and 193 00:13:53,680 --> 00:14:01,040 takes a little bit of getting used to that's not going to be in the sponsor spot so like 194 00:13:58,079 --> 00:14:06,079 yeah i hear you guys but so this is this is another really great example right 195 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,839 here of exactly the mentality that we 196 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:10,880 need to we need to kill 197 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,920 um i don't mind sponsored videos but this 198 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:18,560 was just a four minute ad there was no review or anything if it's sponsored 199 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:23,519 there is no review period that's not how these contracts work and 200 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:29,360 you don't want them to work that way no you don't you want reviews to be really 201 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:33,360 really clearly separated from anything that is sponsored in a way that could 202 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,519 create a conflict of interest absolutely um 203 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,279 that's like very important 204 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:43,279 so yeah i mean most of the complaints 205 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:46,959 probably the most blatant clickbait title i've seen nobody not a single soul 206 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:53,519 linus everybody is buying this and that's that's fair because the original title is is crazy i i will throw another 207 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,279 defend in that lioness media group has published like what thousands of videos 208 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:02,000 at this point there's gonna be oopsies and titles every once in a while it's 209 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:06,160 still bad this one is particularly still particularly because it wasn't just 210 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,480 it didn't sort of it didn't just violate our own standards for 211 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:16,639 what constitutes click bait yeah it it violates our our editorial oh it's 212 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:20,560 bad all i'm saying is people will make mistakes so we're clear that it's bad oh 213 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:24,000 it's bad it's really bad um but like i wouldn't and pointing it out you know 214 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,240 what solid because it needs to be pointed out so that it gets changed et 215 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:31,920 cetera et cetera et cetera um but like i don't know i'd measure your pitch for 216 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:36,320 goodness because it was changed quickly oh 217 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:40,639 surprise luke is defending lmg well no crap i think it's also very reasonable 218 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:44,160 there was a mistake they understood it was a mistake they changed the title the 219 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,800 showcase content has been happening forever uh there are legitimate 220 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:52,480 criticisms within a showcase video which in my opinion is marginally above and 221 00:15:50,959 --> 00:15:57,759 beyond i mean there were a couple of things that we felt were really important to 222 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:01,040 mention um like the fact that you know what they sound pretty darn good i'm not 223 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,079 being sponsored right now say whatever the hell i want they sound pretty darn 224 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,920 good but not at full volume someone mentioned that in the comments mentioned that i hadn't seen that part of the 225 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:12,160 video but yeah someone mentioned that in twitch chat that you guys said that as well 226 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:16,160 like that's there there was extra stuff added on so we we mentioned 227 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,920 the main drawbacks to them like to be clear 228 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,160 they're fine we wouldn't have taken the deal if we 229 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:28,000 thought they were a bad deal also there's a bunch of content especially 230 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:32,079 earlier on where if you watched lions videos from quite a long time ago when 231 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:36,480 we used to do more headphone coverage mostly unboxings he's mirroring the same 232 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,920 comments these are opinions he's had for a long time not that opinions shouldn't 233 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:42,880 be able to change over time but like a lot of the things that you said were not 234 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,639 surprising to me because i remember holding a dinky camera and listening to 235 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:51,600 you say the same stuff now i have had people upset um particularly about the 236 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:56,959 fact that i didn't ream on it for having a micro b usb port so i can explain why 237 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:02,639 that would be um the cost to implement usb type c is significantly higher 238 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,400 not just in terms of the actual solder connections because there are more of 239 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:11,439 them and they're finer but in terms of the r d because it is a 240 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:15,760 more complex standard by complex standard i mean it is like 241 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:18,640 many different standards many of which don't 242 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:23,199 necessarily work properly with each other building a device that charges 243 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:27,280 over usb type c is not trivial and there's a reason that even large 244 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:32,480 companies like logitech are still shipping gaming mice with usb micro b 245 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,880 connectors now with someone like logitech 246 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:40,080 um i have less sympathy because 247 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,960 luke has personally visited their r d facilities i think they can figure out 248 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:49,520 how to put a usb type-c connector on this yeah they're kind of amazing actually with taotronics given the price 249 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:54,480 point and given the fact that a device like this 250 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:59,360 would not have as clear a benefit from type c as some others would like a mouse 251 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,640 in particular now logitech mitigates this somewhat by putting reinforcements 252 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:08,000 around their type-c connectors at the end of their mice so it doesn't put as much strain on it but with a device like 253 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:11,280 a mouse where you're actually moving it around while it's charging sometimes 254 00:18:09,679 --> 00:18:14,559 there's a clear and obvious reason to use a more durable connector like a type 255 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,799 c this is a pair of headphones that you'll probably charge once every few 256 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:24,320 days for a span of a couple years until you lose them or whatever so micro b 257 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:28,640 yeah it's not as good but it doesn't need fast charging over type c like it 258 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:31,840 doesn't need you know 30 watt charging or anything crazy like that 259 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:38,640 it would be more convenient to not have to carry an extra cable but they are a value option as opposed to a you know 260 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,960 199 or 299 pair of active noise cancelling headphones so i was willing 261 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:47,120 to be um i was willing to not ream on it 262 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:50,640 and there's no way again remember this is a sponsored piece of content there's 263 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:55,679 no way i was going to be able to ream on it hard because this is a 264 00:18:52,880 --> 00:19:00,240 sponsored piece of content so why wasn't it in there because 265 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:05,039 given the context i was willing to not ream on it and i wouldn't have been able 266 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,039 to ream on it anyway 267 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:12,559 all right well i think that's pretty much 268 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,280 all i have to say about that yeah 269 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,640 oh speaking of all i have to say about that i ate at bubba gump's for the first 270 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:23,440 time ever yesterday but but gumps yes oh down in okay yeah 271 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,679 yeah so i actually i and while i was sitting there i didn't um yeah well i 272 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:31,120 was down in la for a meeting that was to do with vidcon but i wasn't at vidcon 273 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,960 because i left before vidcon started that sounds like the best way to do 274 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:40,320 vidcon yeah like hands down it was kind of amazing i 275 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:44,799 had like the best meeting ever i i'm so bad with names and i'm really 276 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,240 embarrassed um and so this sucks but uh cgp gray was 277 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:51,200 there tom scott was there 278 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,679 youtube's head of search and discoverability was there 279 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:02,160 which was really important yeah and there were definitely some key insights that this 280 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,760 is not the kind of meeting that i can go and like make a youtube video about 281 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,080 and tell you guys all about but it was it was really good to just be able to 282 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:16,080 have that kind of open discussion around the dinner table um there was uh 283 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:23,039 i think her first name's rebecca she's absolutely huge she does kids content 284 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,520 i forget her last name zamolo zamalo 285 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:29,039 something like that um there was a guy who has a really cool channel that's 286 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:35,120 like tips for creators um there was the guy who did the uh the 287 00:20:32,159 --> 00:20:38,120 arcade arcade tricks or like arcade cheats or something like 288 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:44,080 that arcade hacks um 289 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:49,360 um cheats or something what's this ah 290 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,880 what's his name 291 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:56,159 shoot rebecca zamolo yeah yeah that's her 292 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:00,080 so she's it's not the kind of content that i think you folks would necessarily 293 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:04,240 enjoy but um she's super popular yeah 294 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,400 ah dang it i can't i can't find i can't 295 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:12,960 find him right now uh nobody is 296 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:17,280 nobody is helping me in the chat mark robert mark robert mark robert he 297 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:20,320 was oh okay arcade scam science yeah yeah yeah yeah so he was there so it was 298 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,919 like honestly i felt kind of b-list 299 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:33,120 um but i think i got an invite just because i cornered one of their execs at 300 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,360 um at the top creator summit and was like 301 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,760 asking a bunch of questions and he was just like 302 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:45,120 we're thinking of having like a dinner come to that and talk to these people 303 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:49,760 directly so it's really cool i'm finally getting to the point where 304 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:53,679 we have like a real relationship with youtube actually 305 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:57,840 one of the people who was there um got to launch 306 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,799 a popular product for the first time in pretty much forever and that leads 307 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:07,440 really perfectly into one of our topics for today um so the head of uh content id 308 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,840 was actually at dinner oh yeah this is cool yeah okay um yeah so the original 309 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:16,640 article here is from the youtube creator's blog 310 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:20,960 and he was really excited about this so content id 311 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:25,880 now requires claimants to provide more information and provides better 312 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:34,720 i grow a bunch of disc plates that's fine i mean hey that's the benefit of durable 313 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,720 aluminum wall hangings you can trip and throw them all over the 314 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,080 floor and they'll still be okay all right are they banned uh no way okay 315 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:48,400 cool no no it's fine don't don't yeah it wasn't wasn't that bad doesn't sound that bad yeah um anyway so better uh so 316 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,880 better uh tools to resolve manual content id claims so this actually would 317 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:58,240 have solved that drama problem that we had a while back yeah where 318 00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,240 our content id system through our mcn 319 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,840 was claiming anyone's video that had i think it was either unigine valley or 320 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:08,320 union heaven benchmark in it because we had lots of videos with that 321 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:12,480 first apparently and then other people uploaded footage and it went ah that's 322 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:16,000 linus media groups content and then they had their videos content id claims which 323 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:19,520 to be clear is not the same thing as a copyright strike and it's actually no 324 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,360 big deal once you get it resolved there's no long-term lasting damage you 325 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,840 don't even lose your adsense anyway 326 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:32,960 now it's way easier to resolve these things so in the past the copyright 327 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:38,559 claims system had been abused and used to extort creators in some cases 328 00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:42,880 so manual claiming is a tool within content id that allows you to 329 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,559 do things like go uh hey youtube's automated system didn't 330 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:52,880 find this six notes of our song 331 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,000 um you know automatically flag it so 332 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,520 we're going to go in we're going to manually say hey that's from our song we 333 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:03,440 actually had this happen a while back with um a monitor video we had like a meme and 334 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:08,799 it was basically like like it was really that short 335 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:13,360 and the owner of that song came in they've created their own tools for 336 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:18,640 combing through videos they came in they claimed our entire video based on this 337 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:23,679 like six to eight notes of music or whatever it was and the way that a 338 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:27,520 a copyright claim works is that once someone else claims your video the video 339 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:33,120 stays up you lovely folks still get to enjoy it but all of the money that gets 340 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:39,440 made through adsense on that video goes to that copyright holder even if they 341 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,760 had nothing to do with 99.5 342 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:45,279 of the video content and it was just that 343 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:49,679 all of the money goes to them which is obviously not a perfect system but i 344 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:53,200 also understand why it would be that way because 345 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:59,200 you know you can't just you can't just grab like you know an iconic song like 346 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:03,520 acdc highway to hell or something and use you know 347 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:08,240 five to ten seconds of it in every one of your videos and expect that 348 00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:12,400 that's okay because you didn't create that that's not yours it doesn't work 349 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:17,440 that way yeah and you also can't just tell ac dc well hey these guys put three 350 00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:22,000 hours of black frames at the end of their video which makes you effectively 351 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:26,799 .02 of the content so here's your 0.02 352 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:30,960 percent of the adsense that's not fair either because clearly you the creator 353 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,919 felt you were significantly enhancing your piece of content by stealing 354 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,600 someone else's work or you wouldn't have included it i mean in that case you definitely did 355 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:43,120 um sorry you definitely did what if you put three hours of black frames oh yeah yeah 356 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,880 you're definitely abusing the system um and you're significantly enhancing 357 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:52,320 your content yeah so so anyway um 358 00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:56,640 to combat so so this is 359 00:25:54,159 --> 00:26:00,559 this is a move in the creator's direction 360 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,919 after a lot of previous moves that appeared to be designed to help 361 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:08,720 copyright holders enforce their copyright to a degree that 362 00:26:06,159 --> 00:26:12,799 i as a youtuber felt was unfair we ended up having to edit that video and 363 00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:17,520 re-upload it without that meme in it because giving someone else all the 364 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,760 adsense from a video that we spent a lot of time and money creating for their 365 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,279 couple seconds of of music just doesn't make any sense to us 366 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:29,840 so now here's what's here's what's going on so 367 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,679 content id can work automatically by scanning blah blah blah okay so 368 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:40,559 um okay jono's notes on this are not 369 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,919 amazing but basically starting today and 370 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,080 i think that's two days ago three days ago they are requiring copyright owners 371 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,360 to provide timestamps to indicate exactly where their content appears in 372 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:54,880 the videos that they manually claim which is nice this was a big problem 373 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:59,919 like in that video i watched through the entire video without actually realizing 374 00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:04,799 what the problem was all i could see was that it had been claimed by some 375 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:08,559 music conglomerate and i was like what what are you talking 376 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:13,120 about so i messaged our editor i went yo wtf what happened here are aren't we 377 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:16,480 using all i think we were on uh warner chappell at the time like aren't we 378 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,960 using all licensed music that we we have rights for and they go 379 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,720 yeah and then someone finally clued in i think it was actually a comment on the 380 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:29,440 video that alerted us to this that that that meme 381 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,919 was from a song like that little portion 382 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,559 of it and um so so it wasted a bunch of our time when 383 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:40,799 the claimant could have just said hey this is the problem now they don't want 384 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,159 to do that because that's not actually the outcome they're after think about it 385 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,520 from their perspective would they rather have you quickly edit their crap out of 386 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,840 your video or would they rather take your money 387 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:56,480 in the they get 100 of it kind of scheme they definitely just want the money 388 00:27:54,799 --> 00:28:00,159 scheme is definitely the right word here yeah um 389 00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:04,159 so they have to provide timestamps now for exactly which part of your video is 390 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:07,919 manually being claimed and youtube is providing their editing tools to remove 391 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:12,159 the content claimed manually in your video which will now automatically 392 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:16,000 release the claims this isn't going to solve all problems no 393 00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:18,399 but it should be way more helpful than what they have now 394 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,799 yeah so right now you've got a few different options you can mute all sound when the 395 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,640 claimed song plays you can replace the song if you don't 396 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:30,159 want to mute the audio entirely so you can instead swap out the music with one 397 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,600 of their to use songs from the youtube audio library 398 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:38,240 although that might not necessarily be a perfect solution we actually had someone 399 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:44,320 claim a youtube audio library song once because the performance 400 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:47,360 was licensed by youtube but the actual original sheet music was still 401 00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:52,080 copyrighted in germany of all places anyway or you can trim out the content so you 402 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,840 can just cut it out and then an edited version 403 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,200 will show up on youtube after the fact and they are still working on 404 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,159 improvements like having an explicit trim option in the video copyright info 405 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,279 page that'll allow you to trim it out with just one click and 406 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,120 remember of course that the same tools from before where you could dispute 407 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:15,919 these claims do still exist if you think the claim is incorrect or covered under 408 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:19,840 fair use or just completely irrelevant like those unigine valley and unigine 409 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,760 heaven claims you can just say hey this is invalid here's the reason i think so 410 00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:28,480 and we've actually found that most of the time um like wan show uh we've been 411 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,720 flagged on wancho a lot of times back when we used to show game trailers yeah 412 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:37,039 uh we've been flagged by the game trailer owners and i'm kind of sitting here going 413 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:40,640 you left in serious mate so dumb you're going to take our money for promoting 414 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:43,919 your sorry we advertising yeah sorry for the free promotion 415 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,919 dumbass um so we've actually disputed those in the 416 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,480 past saying i'm sure this was an accident no one in 417 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,520 their right mind at nintendo would be mad that they showed their trailer 418 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,440 nintendo definitely gets salty about that um i actually do think that 419 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:03,200 nintendo was one that did not release it i'm sure they were 420 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,720 i'm looking at it going like you guys are just idiots because we are just 421 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,559 never ever ever going to talk about one of your new games again they're getting 422 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,840 good jobs slightly better at this time i'd be getting slightly better but like 423 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,000 wow yeah yeah it's like how stupid do you 424 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,200 have to be to get mad at someone for promoting a trailer for your content 425 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,799 this is an awesome looking game check it out flagged we might not have said it 426 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,760 looked awesome we probably did it's a nintendo game we probably did we're both 427 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,520 they're basically all awesome yeah um on 428 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,360 the subject of nintendo one more topic before we do our sponsors uh switch 429 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,799 light yay or nay yeah absolutely you know what you know what i'm going to do 430 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:43,919 it i'm going to attempt the gods oh geez here it is oh no here it is oh 431 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,520 no no wait no i don't no it's just a hard mail forget it 432 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,960 we'll see if his shoe takes the whole video yeah we'll see we'll see if we 433 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:57,679 give up all of our adsense over that what do you think do you disagree with me um i don't i wasn't listening i was 434 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:00,399 busy oh i said yay you said yay yeah why 435 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:06,080 uh it's considerably cheaper it's 100 cheaper and it's effectively a 3ds 436 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,799 replacement okay which like 437 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:12,399 they weren't gonna keep going with 3ds and we've known that for a long time 438 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,240 okay so i'm going to say 439 00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:22,799 it's complicated okay 440 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,720 i see we're going here okay so go ahead yep yep 441 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:32,159 these prices are all over the place for once i'm not 100 sure what's going on there the one that i saw that's price 442 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,320 competitive with the switch light i would be concerned about used switches 443 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,600 are a little bit sketchy that's true because they close black 444 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,880 screen oppo they could be blacklisted they have an 445 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,240 exposed screen it's fairly likely for the screens to be 446 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:49,279 scratched especially if people were not very careful careful with docking them 447 00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:53,760 yeah and that's going to be something that might be a little bit visually hard to tell in an ebay ad 448 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:58,399 it has a not very easily user replaceable battery 449 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:03,440 yep so i would be a little bit concerned about that 450 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:07,600 and i don't think the fact that you can ebay 451 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:12,080 something that is used for a comparable price that a new thing is 452 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:17,279 like null and void no but maybe an enthusiast can take it 453 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:20,240 factor in a purchasing decision for me i'm not going to purchase a switch light 454 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:25,840 okay i think it's cool that it's on the market here's my other main problem yeah 455 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:29,200 that's bestbuy.com so that's u.s pricing sure um 456 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:34,559 so to me effectively what nintendo has done here 457 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,760 is they've knocked 100 off the price and you're getting the same gaming hardware 458 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,880 so you're gonna have the same gaming experience that you had at least on 459 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,480 mobile anyway the battery life is a little longer is it as far as i know 460 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,519 it's an updated chipset i think it's a new tiger chip i believe so the battery 461 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,720 life is a little bit longer the controllers are fixed so they're stuck 462 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:55,120 on the side and i believe the screen's a little smaller uh i don't know about the 463 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:59,519 screen i'm not sure but okay so here's my problem is they dropped a hundred 464 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:06,080 dollars off the price yes that's nice but you are giving up a lot 465 00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:09,600 and giving up tv docking and removable controllers some of it you have the 466 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:14,080 ability to get back like for example there are games that 467 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:19,840 you cannot play on the switch light like mario party for example mario party 468 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:21,519 requires joy cons so if you can connect 469 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:27,440 joycons to switch light of course you can for 70 dollars oh yeah yeah okay but you 470 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:32,000 said you cannot play so now you've spent two hundred and seventy dollars 471 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:36,799 it is another thirty dollars 472 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,840 thirty bucks to get the one that just has 473 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:45,600 all the functionality that's where i run into trouble this is 474 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,600 like this is a console that is a switch 475 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:53,840 but it doesn't offer all the same experiences it's more like a game boy 476 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,840 it's not really a console 477 00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,039 yes it doesn't dock i know you can't play it on tv i know i know it's not 478 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:04,000 really designed i hear you it's not really designed for mario party for 30 479 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:08,800 bucks look i've i've played more mario party 480 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,679 on the switch portably than i have on my tv 481 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,879 oh that's kind of weird on the plane why do you play mario party on the do you 482 00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:19,119 play marker by yourself no with someone with someone 483 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:23,760 okay okay yeah okay yeah i'll play that mario party fairly small use cases okay 484 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:27,359 that's a niche i don't disagree with you but but 485 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,480 there i mean there's other nintendo acknowledged in their announcement that 486 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,679 you can't play one player all of them yeah yeah like there are games it won't 487 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,839 play you got to check the back of the game you got to see if it supports 488 00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:41,280 handheld mode and if it doesn't you are 489 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,280 i think some fast majority of games are going to support it yeah especially 490 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,560 forward mario party is a good one to call out because that's a fairly made i 491 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:52,399 don't know how many parts it's a lot of fun yes i don't know how many people are 492 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:56,480 in a one-two switch yeah kind of a trash game no mario parties 493 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,160 yes i will give you that if i have to run out and spend 70 494 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,200 on top of the facts so here's another problem that i have first party nintendo 495 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,359 games are freaking expensive so 496 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:11,440 when we're talking about the price difference between 497 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,839 a switch and a switch light we're talking 498 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,920 one and a half games yeah but at the same time like if 499 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,760 you're a kid that one and a half games might be too much 500 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:30,079 yeah and then you should probably go buy a you should probably go try to very 501 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,000 much snipe a good deal on a used switch 502 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:35,119 somewhere else i do agree with that not everyone's going to do that 503 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:38,800 a lot of them comfortable buying users are not going to buy you a used switch a 504 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,119 lot of moms are not comfortable buying used stuff for their kid who you know 505 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:47,520 even if they're like like you know i get this story all the time like hey linus 506 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:53,119 my mom won't let me buy a used gpu on ebay because she says 507 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:56,960 it's it's it's sketchy i know it's a good deal it's like it's 508 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,320 it's one of those brands that still has that has a user transferable warranty 509 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,119 it's literally still under warranty help me convince her and i'm like look dude 510 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:07,200 there's nothing i can do to help convince you i couldn't convince my parents you're not going to be able to 511 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:10,560 convince yours i bet yeah my my mom was pretty cool about that we 512 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,720 my brother and i raised money and she drove us to buy a snes from some dude in 513 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:19,520 a parking lot when i was like 11 or something um but like but not everyone's 514 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,880 down with that yeah um i don't think it's a smoking deal i don't think it's 515 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:28,320 amazing i think it has a place though right a lot of people aren't going to buy you some people might want to just 516 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:32,800 play fire emblem and smash and literally nothing else 517 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,720 but if you're like okay people will buy 518 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,880 a device for that people just mobile you don't want to dock it 519 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,359 people will buy a console no well invalid 520 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:57,119 okay so so brandon you're a bit of a smash 521 00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:02,079 enthusiast yes i like smash and fire emblem i said those games specifically 522 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:05,280 because of brandon okay so we're talking switch versus switch 523 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:11,040 light right now okay so do you know do you know about this yes i know about the social you media um 524 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:18,160 obviously we all do okay so at a hundred dollar delta okay 525 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,160 is the switch light a deal 526 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:23,200 i didn't say it's a smoking deal it's ahead of place i think it has yeah i 527 00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:27,680 think i agree with luke i think it has it's okay so if you were someone who's 528 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:32,400 only gonna play fire emblem and smash yes is it not worth the extra hundred 529 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:37,760 dollars to be able to dock this isn't fair because brandon has a 530 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,240 sweet i just really really nice switch i 531 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,240 literally bought a switch like last week when before the switch light came out 532 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,720 now thinking back to that decision that i made last week i'd still make this i 533 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:51,040 was going to say i think you'd be still going first but again he has a nice tv 534 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,800 yeah and a really awesome couch a lot of people don't have all right but you 535 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,640 don't need to have a tv you can use your monitor you can absolutely sure there's 536 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,240 so many monitors but a lot of people are just going to want to like chill in bed 537 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,880 play another thing i see they do they not have friends a lot of kids don't 538 00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:11,119 have uh a a yeah they do not have 539 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,119 friends why it's a valid question 540 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:18,000 it's fair but like they smash by themselves sometimes that 541 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:22,320 100 delta will be too much that's who you overcome but then i i stand by my 542 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,480 argument that that you should go buy a used but some people can't because 543 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:30,640 you're gonna you're okay you might not need joy cons eventually but okay here's 544 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,680 another thing too like if you want to talk resale value the switch is going to 545 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,760 hold its value it's going to hold some of that value when it's time to flip it 546 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:43,599 and get a switch to be fair basically all nintendo products hold value very 547 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:48,160 well and and the accessories except for like the weird so accessories for for 548 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,839 original wheeze okay so i was picking no they some of them not 549 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:57,599 bad like the tennis racket things okay no not that stuff that's what i but i'm talking like wiimotes yeah yeah we 550 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,760 motion plus wiimotes still hold value yeah the wii u i was picking up a wii u 551 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,599 a little while ago because one of our wiis like was having some kind of issue 552 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,760 and i was like oh you know what forget it let's just get a wii u anyway and 553 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:13,200 then i can do that data transfer thing and then i don't have to worry about the 554 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:16,800 wii dying and taking all my uh you know classic arcade whatever this virtual 555 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,240 console games with it and all that kind of stuff so we got it and i was like 556 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,119 shocked at how much a wii u still cost because because of the way that nintendo manages 557 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:29,040 their ip and they have these unique games these unique gaming the wii u 558 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,400 tablet controller still feels amazing yeah so they've got these unique 559 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,320 experiences that are available their consoles hold their value i would make 560 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:40,160 the argument that a switch light is going to go like 561 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:43,200 that compared to a switch which will still hold some value comparatively i 562 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:48,320 still think it'll hold this value better than a lot of things yeah but yeah i do 563 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,240 agree with that in general i think um 564 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,920 i do think like i think you're maybe underestimating the hundred dollar delta 565 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,240 yeah i think for a lot of kids that's a really big it's big my problem is that's 566 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:03,119 potentially a year but it's going to bite you later it's like when you need 567 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:07,119 joy cons it's going to bite you it's also going to eventually go on sale get 568 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,520 comboed with a game okay something like that okay now that's a different 569 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:15,839 conversation if it comes with fire emblem and it's like 570 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,920 229 now we're talking a two game difference 571 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:24,800 in price but right now it is a one and a half game right right now but it's that 572 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,040 i think that's still significant enough to make people accept these sacrifices 573 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:32,800 yeah they are they are sacrifices in a lot of cases the increased battery life 574 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,520 is really nice and that might be enough for some people 575 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:39,599 because charging the switch is actually a huge pain it is um i've already 576 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:43,680 noticed this the switch being fully mobile is actually very annoying 577 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,040 it is yeah how's it a pain charging the switch is his battery life is not very 578 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:50,640 good yeah his battery life is terrible yeah but i mean okay so maybe i maybe 579 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:56,880 i'm a unique case so now you're throwing in surprisingly expensive battery banks 580 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,240 hold on a second i find okay so 581 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:03,440 let me think first you know what though one thing i use my laptop charger 582 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:07,119 so i carry one usb type-c i carry my razer blade stealth laptop 583 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,720 charger which does my phone my switch and my laptop and they all last for long 584 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:17,760 enough that i don't need to close all three of them this kid that was barely able to save up for it 585 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:20,000 has a razor blade with a usb c charging 586 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,960 cable i'm just saying i haven't found charging the device to be a problem yeah 587 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,440 it's a little awkward a lot of people who buy a switch light are not gonna go 588 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:32,960 along and also buy a lot of the stuff that you need to make like that could 589 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:37,280 make the switch tv version better that's true but and so 590 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:40,319 like switch light is a good solution because like they're not going to spend 591 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:44,960 like because i think i i spent like another 100 on little things like sd 592 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,240 cards and like like pro controllers yeah like people who buy this which aren't going 593 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,400 to buy that so that's the thing when you buy a switch for the for your tv you're 594 00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:55,520 buying a lot of other stuff on top of that yeah a lot of the time over time 595 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:01,200 and like i switched like you just kind of try and just play right away somewhat 596 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,400 bridge the gap all right thanks brandon by buying some of those things like 597 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,359 additional controllers and stuff and i think you have to assume if you're going 598 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:13,040 for a switch light you're probably buying nothing in addition other than games all right well that's fair enough 599 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,960 so you're in you're go the plan is to invest a lot less in the ecosystem and 600 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,480 if i was a parent maybe i'd get my kids to switch lights so that they don't have 601 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:23,920 to ask me for a pro controller and honestly that might sell a bunch of 602 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:30,800 these if the people are educated enough in the ecosystem to go like okay yeah it can't 603 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:34,480 connect to the tv it can't do all these other things or if i don't want my kids 604 00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:38,400 on my tv or that so okay all right i think it has a place i 605 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,520 don't think it's a stunning value i don't think people should run out and 606 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:45,040 buy it right now because it's amazing if you're interested i would probably wait 607 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,079 until it's bundled with a game with a game yeah with a game 608 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,240 okay without a game i think it's a i think 609 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,880 it's a tough sell for me i don't think it's a great deal i don't like i think 610 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,680 it's interesting i don't like saving a dollar so that i can 611 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:05,680 spend two later okay but a hundred us dollars when you were 13. yeah it's a 612 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,280 lot of money but i know you probably would have bounced 613 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:13,599 and i probably would have done the same thing i bought low sold high i was 614 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:18,800 flipping stuff on craigslist like i was hustling yeah so i had a job i don't 615 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:22,720 like i don't feel bad yeah for people that can't raise a hundred dollars 616 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:28,319 because they're like too young to neither do it because again i had a job 617 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,160 but uh i can understand why they might 618 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:34,000 want to buy now to be clear that the thing i just said just now could sound 619 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:38,079 very out of touch to be clear i don't feel bad for like 620 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,839 suburban lower to upper middle class kids yeah 621 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,480 that can't scrape together a hundred dollars if you came from where we came 622 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,280 from yes then you should be able to yeah but if you're someone who is in a 623 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,560 situation where like you can't you don't even have time to go to school because 624 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,440 you are like working to support your family at 12 or whatever that's a 625 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:02,160 completely different situation i wasn't supporting my family with my job yeah 626 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,839 buying everquest subscriptions and video games 627 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:09,839 so i just want to make sure that that's really clear yes um 628 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,680 just just for those of you who are tuning in late we have no idea why the 629 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:19,280 stream is lagging on youtube it's fine on twitch it is literally exactly the 630 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:24,240 same stream so it actually still lags a little bit on twitch but it is considerably better okay so yeah we'll 631 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:28,800 we'll have to figure that out later yeah uh we think it's haunted um just wanted 632 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:31,520 to run through sponsors for you guys holy crap we are 45 minutes into the 633 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,400 show and we haven't talked about sponsors anthony did you want to jump in with something you were kind of standing 634 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:40,800 there patiently yeah i was just going to say that the 199 price for the switch 635 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:45,200 light yeah is basically what the 3ds used to cost when it first came out 636 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:51,440 right so to me that means that it's the new 3ds okay yeah luke said that yeah 637 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,880 like to me it's i would buy it because 638 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,880 it's more portable it is smaller oh it is smaller yeah okay 639 00:44:55,359 --> 00:45:00,880 yeah it's smaller it's less like much smaller like my joy cons don't stick 640 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:04,560 really well anymore something to 5.5 inch so like it's 641 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,160 actually a smaller okay so it's quite a bit smaller specifically like a little 642 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,880 bit larger than a vita but it's not so okay so it's still like sort of 643 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:17,040 pocketable uh depending on your pocket yeah you need a 644 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,720 pretty epic pocket no i don't think so 645 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,560 ah maybe it takes my entire hand yeah you 646 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:28,000 probably up to like here all right mr big boy pockets here 647 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:34,640 i got them thick pockets sponsors for 648 00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:37,680 see sonic see sonic's yes we're doing it nick 649 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:42,079 um see sonic has lots of 650 00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:45,040 fantastic power supply products uh featuring 651 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,920 features like wow these are really confusing things okay so uh they have up 652 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:54,079 to 80 plus titanium efficiency the highest or is this a specific skew we're 653 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:58,160 talking about yes it is but it's not in here dang it you guys 654 00:45:56,240 --> 00:46:01,920 um where is this is it here 655 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,560 okay i don't think so i 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00:46:47,920 for a video oh we used it for a video the link does okay okay okay see sonic 666 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,880 prime titanium 850. i went through the link and found it 667 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,839 all right uh also sponsoring the show today ridgewall oh that's funny i was 668 00:46:56,319 --> 00:47:01,839 talking about how ridge wallet might be a sponsor and then they were i guess that's why it's sitting here i thought 669 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:06,000 maybe someone just left it here no so the ridge wallet lets you stop carrying 670 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:09,920 pointless garbage around in your pocket receipts old hotel room keys spent gift 671 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:15,920 cards all that kind of stuff if you don't have the space for it then it's a 672 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,599 little bit easier to break the habit so 673 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,680 the ridge wallet is designed with two metal plates that are bound by a strong 674 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,520 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00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,880 you just shove it up with your thumb tap shove it back in and you're done it's 684 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,839 actually faster in my opinion than many normal ones they come in different 685 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:09,839 materials like aluminum carbon fiber and titanium and they're a great gift for 686 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,119 father's day which is a month ago thanks for having me i noticed that i 687 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:20,920 noticed that so you can use offer code ltt at ridgewallet.com 688 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,920 ltt and you can save 10 on 689 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,319 oh that's a cache clip well whatever i would use i've used it as a bell clip 690 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:34,000 and it worked great uh okay in other news 691 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,400 savage jerky is also sponsoring the show today and actually still have a little 692 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,040 bit of sriracha bacon left over where are you going 693 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:44,000 oh we've got the hot sauce i'm showing their other 694 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,599 fantastic products their jerky is made with high quality ingredients without 695 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,079 nitrates or preservatives with the goal of creating a snack that is full of 696 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:55,200 flavor and spices isn't bad for you i was actually doing some research on nitrates they're really bad yeah i had 697 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,760 like hadn't really thought about it much before but so 698 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:03,839 nitrates make it much faster to age meat and get that desirable 699 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:08,000 delicious looking color um but there are carcinogens which is 700 00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:11,680 cool well also we have a lot of meat well actually no sorry just to be clear 701 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:15,359 the nitrates are not the carcinogen it's the reaction between the nitrates and 702 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,880 something something that creates a carcinogen 703 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:23,440 so they've got 13 different flavors of jerky like they're sriracha bacon and they're 704 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:27,440 made for buffalo bacon which i love that one's got a little bit more kick 705 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,480 than the maple buffalo i kind of went down the wrong pipe i'm 706 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:34,319 good though they also make barbecue sauce hot sauce and a spice rub 707 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,920 and uh i love their hot sauce man their hot sauce is amazing it's like really good 708 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,599 you guys should check it out it's incredible use offer code ltt to save 10 709 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,200 on all their products at the link below 710 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:49,359 all right do we have any other important topics today i kind of feel like we 711 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,720 covered all the uh like really important stuff the major 712 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,240 things the google employee listing in thing is pretty interesting now we got 713 00:49:54,559 --> 00:50:00,240 to talk about the um the pcie gen 4 compatibility drama i 714 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,160 want to throw in a thing for this really quick at some point okay let's do it now let's do it now 715 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,040 okay so google employee's secretly listening and we don't really have to go into this too deeply in my opinion um 716 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:14,480 there's google employees that are listening in to um google home 717 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:19,040 data and listening to conversations including conversations that were 718 00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:20,559 definitely not intentionally triggered 719 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:25,200 i'm sure this is happening with all of them i was talking to wendell at 720 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,240 uh computex we talked about a ton of stuff wendell's 721 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:32,240 an amazing person is very fun hanging out with him but one of the things we started talking 722 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,000 about is there's someone has designed or a group of 723 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:40,079 people i don't remember sorry i didn't remember the story until i saw 724 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:45,359 this this exact topic but they designed this 3d printed housing that you can put 725 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,160 on i believe it was for an alexa but you could probably put it on a you could 726 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:52,240 probably modify it to go on a google home as well that like covers it and 727 00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:56,880 then has a little i believe if i remember correctly it has a little speaker in it that constantly blares 728 00:50:55,119 --> 00:51:00,079 noise at it and it's called a brain 729 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,040 it's playfully called a brain slug because that plays on to something from 730 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:09,280 a show that i don't remember and people get really mad at me but i think it's rick and morty um so basically it's 731 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:13,040 constantly blasting like white noise isn't it futurama futram might be oh i 732 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:17,440 think it's futurama yeah uh it's constantly blasting white noise and the 733 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:22,000 brain slug is now listening for you but it's all local stuff it doesn't call out 734 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:25,920 to external servers so if you say the keyword the brain slug wants to hear the 735 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:30,480 brain slug will stop blasting noise and then you can talk to your automation 736 00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:34,559 device wow and that's actually awesome that is next level i think that 737 00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:37,520 is so cool and i've wanted to make one for a while even though i don't run 738 00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:41,119 these devices i just want to make one because i think they're cool 739 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,079 and i probably screwed them things up and i'm sorry wendell and whoever made 740 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:48,079 that project but super cool so 741 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:53,200 this is pretty funny um google's defense of this behavior was 742 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:59,119 that only 0.2 percent of all audio clips are being used 743 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:02,480 that's a lot that's a huge amount 744 00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:04,559 that's one in every 500. that means i 745 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,160 guaran like not technically guaranteed but it's extremely likely that i have 746 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,760 something in here of me going set a reminder for it but 747 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,359 you know my herpes appointment or whatever 748 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:19,920 but that's the thing okay luke has a highly recognizable 749 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:23,200 voice so let's say that he did set an embarrassing reminder or something like 750 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:28,000 that even if he was intending to talk to his assistant yeah 751 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,559 it's a personal assistant yeah not a 752 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,760 hey i'd love for someone in uh in a data center somewhere to really like listen 753 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:37,280 to this and go wow is that luke lefronier 754 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:42,079 the conversation with wendell came up because i was talking about how i don't like these services because i would love 755 00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:46,720 to have something local and how a long time ago i had spun up this project to 756 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:51,200 try to uh mesh together a whole bunch of 757 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:54,160 microphones in my house and have them 758 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:57,359 dictate to a file that i was going to be constantly reading to see for my own 759 00:52:55,839 --> 00:53:01,839 keywords and triggering events on my own and all this kind of stuff but it was quite a long time ago and he actually 760 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,880 said there's a bunch of projects that i would be able to use to accomplish it a 761 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:08,720 lot easier now which is very cool again talking to wendell is always fantastic 762 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:13,359 but um that's how we got onto this thing because these are so they're so creepy 763 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,040 uh nick you've been standing here very patiently do you want to talk to the uh 764 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:20,720 the wen show yeah i mean for a minute i thought you were going to say luke has 765 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:23,760 herpes he's a recognizable voice not that i 766 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:28,800 know of have you talked about your super fashionable t-shirt that you're wearing 767 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:32,880 no i haven't yet oh well that's now the top selling t-shirt is the lightest 768 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,559 texture really above hard drive i actually like 769 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:40,640 hard drive better hard drive has only been on sale half as long oh okay uh 770 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,359 yeah so there you go processor t-shirt it's for sale it's really nice i really 771 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:50,000 like it there's also this one you can also get the elemental shirts which uh don't sell 772 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:54,480 very well this shirt exists yeah check it out alternatively we're gonna have 773 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:57,760 those two for 30 at ltx hard drive is the hard drive's pretty awesome i really 774 00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:02,800 like this one um what else is there to say we're out of 775 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,640 stock of most of the sizes of stealth hoodie are we out of all of them there's 776 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:10,240 only one there's one stealth there's one stealth hoodie in stock well it says 777 00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:13,920 sold out online so yeah uh they'll be back in stock next week they'll be back 778 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:18,400 next week and uh hopefully by next week we will also be launching our underwear 779 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:21,520 oh yeah you want some underwear yes yeah i bet you did i've already told them i 780 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,640 think you're talking i think you'll take anything free oh yeah yes so can i pitch 781 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,240 you something crazy okay to promote the launch of the underwear yeah we do the 782 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:34,480 show naked but wearing underwear 783 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:38,480 are we like standing no yeah so we'll look i can't see them 784 00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:42,880 anyways then that's fine are we gonna ban from twitch i don't know 785 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,839 oh yeah nipples well wow oh how does that work you tape over them don't paint 786 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,720 them we could we could paint them because that's a 787 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:54,000 whole section we could wear bras oh my god we could wear bra we could 788 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,160 wear bra okay but hold on a second i i need to know how this works is actually 789 00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:01,599 important because you're a twitch partner so if you show your nipples on 790 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:06,800 someone else's channel oh does that affect your channel yeah 791 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:10,240 yeah okay so if like doctor disrespect showed up on linus tech yeah and was 792 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:15,040 like streaming in the bathroom or whatever that's on him not me temporarily banned 793 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,160 for cool oh it's on both of us all right yeah all right just just just clearing 794 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:23,280 the air here just clearing the air so bras all right so bras might be the answer i think actually you're not even 795 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,760 going to be here oh you're not here next week okay next week then we'll find a 796 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:34,960 time um yeah all right asus publishes x47 797 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,640 and b450 gen4 compatibility chart so 798 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:41,920 um let's see this was posted by cb4 member on the 799 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:48,400 linux tech tips forum and basically amd's official position about 800 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:49,520 pci express gen4 compatibility 801 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:54,720 has been that only x570 802 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:59,040 and their ryzen 3rd gen processors together give you the capability to run 803 00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:05,599 pci express gen 4 which is double the speed of pci 804 00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:06,880 express gen 3 at the same link width 805 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:11,839 however asus actually just published a chart of 806 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:16,480 their motherboard so we've got this here on hexis.net 807 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:23,200 showing that some of their last generation x470 and even their more 808 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:26,319 value-oriented b450 boards 809 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:30,240 have pcie gen4 810 00:56:26,319 --> 00:56:32,960 support or capability so ironically 811 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:39,440 none of their rog boards have gen 4 16x support 812 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:45,280 so you know that's pretty funny but some of their prime and tough series boards 813 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:50,559 actually do so you could plug a pcie gen 4 graphics card into your system and get 814 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:56,000 a gen 4 link if you have a ryzen 3rd gen processor installed in it and actually 815 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,400 quite a lot of the boards support pcie 816 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:04,799 gen 4 for the m.2 slot which in my opinion is actually a little bit more 817 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:07,040 important because pcie gen 4 16x is so 818 00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:11,119 far beyond what a graphics card needs at this point in time outside of some very 819 00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:16,799 specialized workloads that faster storage is probably a more practical 820 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,920 use for pci gen pcie gen 4 at this point in time 821 00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:24,160 now what i actually don't have any clarification on at this point because i 822 00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:26,960 haven't actually read the article is how this affects the link between the cpu 823 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:30,319 and the chipset i would imagine that's still a gen 3 link because the chipset 824 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:36,160 itself is not gen 4 capable to my knowledge but 825 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:43,040 for the rest of it the way that it works is your cpu is just it's pci express 826 00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:48,319 pins are just connected to those slots or to that m.2 slot so as long as the 827 00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:53,200 signaling quality is sufficient it can negotiate a gen 4 link on these boards 828 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:58,160 as long as the device on the other end is pcie gen4 it's just it's just copper 829 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:03,280 like that's what it is it's copper now the way that they route the traces has 830 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:07,440 to be better for pcie gen 4 so that you avoid interference and that's why asus 831 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:11,920 is saying well hey look these boards aren't going to handle it because 832 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:16,720 of whatever reason or if you had something like a pci express 833 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,599 switch or something if that doesn't have gen 4 capability 834 00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:24,559 you're not going to you're not going to be able to necessarily handle actually i don't know how would a plx chip be 835 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:29,839 affected by that i would think it would have to be natively gen 4. don't quote me on that maybe i'll have to get back 836 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:33,760 to you on that anyway the point is it looks like there are some boards with 837 00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:37,920 pcie gen4 capability from the last generation which kind of eliminates the 838 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:41,440 one key benefit of x570 especially because a lot of them are passively 839 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,440 cooled 840 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:49,760 okay so i'm going to bring you back a little bit yeah please because 841 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,880 you just talked about how it's very interesting but something you mentioned 842 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:57,440 at the beginning of the show was the controversy problem 843 00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:01,200 where a lot of people are going oh cool but you think if it was the other team 844 00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:05,839 they would be getting really mad yeah so intel had something similar where they 845 00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:09,200 had a line of chips that 846 00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:13,359 i'm going to screw up the code names coffee like so they had a line of chips 847 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:18,559 that could have worked on their z170 and z270 boards and intel decided to 848 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,799 say no they're not compatible and 849 00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:27,440 because while some boards would have worked 850 00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:30,640 and that was proven enthusiast members of the community got 851 00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:35,119 coffee lake chips working by spoofing ids or masking pins 852 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:40,799 or doing whatever funny things that the community does i love you guys so much you're amazing um so they actually made 853 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:45,599 coffee like chips work on previous generation boards 854 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,880 and so i guess this is just 855 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:50,799 so i said that at the beginning of the show but i'm actually not sure that i agree with it anymore it doesn't fully 856 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:57,520 feel the same yeah there's a bit of a difference in the way that they handled it so amd still has time 857 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:01,200 to pull an intel on this and lock it down like manually lock it down which is 858 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:05,920 what intel did but the stance that amd is taking here is 859 01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:10,240 not actually that different where they're saying look because we don't 860 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:16,160 want to create confusion be in the in the marketplace we're just going to say 861 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,760 x570 yes everything else no 862 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:24,160 that's it and that's exactly what intel did because there were previous 863 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:27,920 generation boards that wouldn't work with it either because the vrm design 864 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:34,319 wasn't good enough for any other number of reasons they said well then 865 01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:35,839 nothing because our compatibility matrix 866 01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:42,240 cannot be that complicated because you got to remember and this is a little funky you would kind of expect top of 867 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,760 the line rog boards to support it and 868 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,280 the fact that they don't is weird and kind of confusing yeah the fact that the 869 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:52,079 lower end ones the fact that the like tough and prime boards do is like 870 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:55,520 okay so by keeping the message simple hey the new gen works the old one 871 01:00:53,680 --> 01:01:00,160 doesn't you avoid ticking off the customer who just spent 872 01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:05,440 400 on a crosshair whatever and now has less functionality today 873 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:10,240 than the b450 guy than the b450 guy that saved a buck last time um 874 01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:14,720 which like i mean that's great and it's cool that they have support but i totally understand why this would be 875 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,000 confusing it's like the inverse of what you'd expect and keeping the messaging 876 01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:21,440 clean can be the best bet a lot of the time because 877 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:26,240 um i mean a perfect example of this is giveaways you guys might have noticed we don't do a lot of giveaways on our 878 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:31,520 channel the reason for that is that for every one person that you make happy you 879 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:33,920 piss off ten thousand oh yeah and so 880 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:37,680 for someone like an intel or an amd for every one enthusiast that they make 881 01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:41,599 happy by enabling this feature and optane was another one 882 01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:45,359 where it could have been back ported to older generation boards 883 01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:48,960 but they didn't because they didn't want to make it confusing for every 884 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:53,680 enthusiast that you please out of the last generation you are going to create 885 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,319 a bunch of confusion with normies who don't understand why their stuff doesn't 886 01:01:55,119 --> 01:02:03,280 work um so i get it but i also think amd so far 887 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,160 has been better about this in that they are at least allowing it to work rather 888 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:11,359 than manually locking it off um 889 01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,400 yeah so something interesting how you talked about like enabling things can 890 01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:18,400 sometimes be bad doing giveaways can sometimes be bad interesting random 891 01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:22,799 little tidbit we added casting to the app but it was in a known 892 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:25,839 somewhat buggy state but it would probably work for a lot of people and 893 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,359 we're like oh we can release this version it says that it's an alpha every 894 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:33,119 single time we release a new version of the app there's a big pop-up talking 895 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:38,559 about everything and we say specifically in there casting might be buggy 896 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:40,799 average ratings for the app went down 897 01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:44,640 when we added casting as a feature because people were like hey casting 898 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:48,559 doesn't work bam get wrecked instead of 899 01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:52,400 people going like oh five star it'll be cool when more features come 900 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:56,000 now they're going like feature got here didn't fully work even though you said 901 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:59,920 it might not get wrecked and it's like it's interesting i'm not complaining 902 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:03,440 it's just an interesting observation that sometimes giving people something 903 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:06,799 is not actually great because if it doesn't work properly or someone else or 904 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:12,240 if someone else doesn't get it or whatever it's going to create animosity 905 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,039 and that makes sense um it was just it was a really interesting observation so 906 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:20,240 you can be app i'm going to throw this in here really quick ios app is like 907 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:25,119 very much on the way it just takes so much longer to do anything in 908 01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:30,400 relation to apple than it does with google holy crap our app has to be manually 909 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:35,039 reviewed by like a person and i have to like give 910 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:38,480 them a write-up explaining the app and how it works and all this kind of stuff 911 01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:43,200 that they have to read before it can be test flighted 912 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,880 for like not even actual release 913 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:49,520 and then we have to do that and then we're going to have to actually release it at which point i believe it has to be 914 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:55,359 manually reviewed again but i'm not certain on that and it's going to take like a few 915 01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:59,680 business days to get manually reviewed so it's coming 916 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:03,839 i don't know exactly when because it's kind of in their court but 917 01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:06,240 it's on the way yeah all right 918 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:10,559 wanna go play some video games yeah let's do it all right so 919 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,359 food's here yeah heck yeah all right so we're heading to the lounge uh good 920 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:16,160 night ladies and gentlemen see you again next week same bad time same bad channel 921 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:21,039 bye hey wait you're going to do something next week should people be like 922 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,920 looking out for you there uh i'll be at iem 923 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:27,520 chicago yeah yeah so luke's gonna be there um intel 924 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,920 sponsoring you yeah if i recall correctly so i don't i think i'm building a computer or something uh 925 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:36,160 you're doing some streams i think in panels cool so guys check him out he's 926 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,760 gonna be at iem in chicago don't miss it if you're going to iem in chicago yeah 927 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:44,799 otherwise i'm not to say like get on a flight to see this guy because you're going to do that come to lts yeah 928 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,319 i was literally just going to say all right bye