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who would believe that Intel is the bang

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for the buck King I know right but wait there's more with

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the release of the 13th gen raptorlike desktop CPUs they are also the gaming

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performance King making ryzen 7000s rain

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the shortest in recent memory which productivity thing shut up

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oh oh there's a lot of meat to dig into here

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while AMD kicked off this generation with some big platform changes

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Intel's remained on their LGA 1700 socket where they've had a solid year

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behind the scenes to refine their hybrid architecture on a relatively mature

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platform by now which isn't to say they aren't bringing

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some big gains first up is the improvements to their Intel 7

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manufacturing process which contributed to a massive bump in core counts

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compared to last generation both the 13900k and the 13600k got double the

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number of efficiency or e-cors and the entire lineup saw big bumps in ondi cash

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which is great for workloads like keeming yeah and they boosted up clock

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speeds too on that note the next big Improvement is to memory compatibility

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Intel has moved from official support for paltry ddr5 4800 all the way up to

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ddr5 5600 with XMP extending that to a

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whopping 7200 Mega transfer per second and that is out of the box

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from talking with memory manufacturers we are expecting to see even faster

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memory kits in the future that could benefit from raptor like second

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generation ddr5 controller their updated z790 chipset has some tricks up its

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sleeve as well giving 13th gen chips access to more PCI Express Gen 4 lanes

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for high-speed storage and additional USB 20 gigabit per second ports

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but that's not the best thing about it to be honest the best thing about it is

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you don't have to buy it 13th gen CPUs

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are backwards compatible with 600 series motherboards after a BIOS update and

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they're compatible with ddr4 memory dramatically reducing the overall

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platform costs for upgraders making Intel the value play this generation but

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only if it has the performance to keep up with AMD

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so how fast is it to help each platform

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to put its best foot forward we paired them with the best kits of RAM as

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recommended by each manufacturer we also updated our bench to the brand new and

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beastly RTX 4090 so say bye bye to

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bottlenecks and hello to some spicy numbers my goodness

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at 1080p which we used for most of our

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benchmarking to amplify CPU bottlenecks we saw AMD rip out of the gate with a

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narrow win in CS go but I mean with the top three CPUs all bottlenecked it's not

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really a meaningful win notable here though is the 13600k leading the last

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gen flagship 12900k could this be a trend

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well in Total War the 13600k ends up lagging behind the 12900k but only

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slightly and matches the performance of both ryzen 9 CPUs the 13900k tops the

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chart here but frankly the most notable thing is just how far behind the ryzen 5

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5600x is and it only Falls further behind in Far Cry 6 where Intel gains

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their first big win topping the chart with a 12 lead in average frame rates

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but also big wins across the board in our minimums the game is just more

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stable on Intel and in Hitman 3 it just

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feels like we've been playing through the same graphs over and over again

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trying to find different ways to kill AMD Factory building game Factoria I mean

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while guzzles L3 cash like a frat boy on spring break allowing AMD to dominate

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the next four games were tested at three resolutions 1080P 1440p and 4K let's

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start with our old friend Tomb Raider at 1080p the 5800x 3D finally shows us what

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we know it can do and while it's very much AMD's game with their 7600x keeping

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a sizable Gap over the 13600k it's the

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13 900k that takes the cake moving up to

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1440p the rankings stay pretty much identical and at 4K we hit a brick wall

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where the GPU is clearly bottlenecking and all the CPUs are performing within

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error this is actually something we've seen in all of our 4K games today and

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actually most of our 1440p tests too so

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if you were wondering why we don't test CPUs at resolutions higher than 1080p

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it's because results tend to be fuzzy at best and generally inconclusive we could

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lower our graphic settings but in the past we've shown that that reduces

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strain on memory and consequently the processor which will ironically make the

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tests even more CPU bound and a CPU can

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be bound for your couch with our couch pillow at ltdstore.com anyway let's get

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back to 1080P and stay there in Tiny

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Tina's wonderlands we see a tight race with barely a 10 difference in frame

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rates between the 7950x and the last gen 12600k only the 5600x lags behind in any

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significant way and it's nearly the same story when we look at Forza Horizon 5

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only narrow victories to be had there photo finishes I guess cyberpunk though

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yeah cyberpunk it's a bit of a mess

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organizing our graph by average FPS puts to 13 600k at the top but when you look

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at the minimums it's the 13 900k that is the clear winner in a few of our charts

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we see the 7600x outperforming the higher clocked cached and cord 7900x and

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we think this is likely due to some am5 teething issues it appears that in some

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workloads the chips with two ccds may be underperforming this was noted by

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Hardware unboxed and cyberpunk might be one of those workloads I suppose maybe

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AMD will fix it but that is in the future and we want performance now so

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where do these results put us the gaming

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king is dead long live the gaming King more

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short-lived depending on your perspective when we compare the average performance of all of our CPUs to the

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7950x we see the 13900k dominating with

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approximately five percent improved frame rates across the board and the

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13600k Falls squarely in the as good as

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the 12900k category alongside the ryzen nines and it beats out its price

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competitor the 7600x thanks to more

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stable performance but look at this what happened to everyone's favorite ryzen 7

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5800x3d it was so dominant in previous benchmarks that even Intel played koi in

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their performance graphs from their announcement well we have a couple of

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theories here one the games we use for this review didn't benefit As Much from

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the extra V cash it's a possibility two and this is the

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big one like physically big the RTX 4090

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when we compare these numbers against the ones from a ryzen 7000 review we see

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that the 7000 series have much improved frame rates but the 5800 X 3D it doesn't

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budge it appears that the extra GPU horsepower was what we needed to

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demonstrate the 5800x3d's upper limits and the 5800x 3DS Fall From Grace

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continues in our productivity benchmarks

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in cinebench the 13900k just cracks the

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40 000 Mark and multi-threaded with a healthy lead over AMD just across the

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board the 13600k gets a lot of its extra efficiency cores showing up the

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competing mid-range CPUs by a wide margin and actually surpassing the 12

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700k despite the lower number of performance cores

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and in single threaded performance the 13900k whips out nearly 2 300 points

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that's 10 percent more than the 7950x

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meanwhile the 13600k is not much faster

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than the 7600x so it's leaning more on its ecors in y cruncher which uses the

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fasts available algorithm for each chip Intel actually takes an L by not

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supporting their own AVX 512 extensions but they manage a win in the handbraking

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code where the 3900k handily beats out the 7950x and the av-1 software encode

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and the 13600k is no slack either

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beating out its price competitor 7600x by 40 percent and breathing down the

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neck of the significantly more expensive 7900x when compiling chromium the 7950x

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is abundance of full fat cores continues to win in such heavily parallelized

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workloads so it's strong showing in

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blender is again expected but Intel is

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sure giving them a run for their money v-ray again is still very much AMD's

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game at least in the high end the 13600k

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is making the 7600x look pretty irrelevant at this point in the single

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threaded flacking code AMD's really high clocks can only do so much against

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Intel's better instructions per clock moving on in Spec workstation the 1300k

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steals the crown in every situation except for finance and while the 13600k

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can't keep up with the 12900k as well as did in gaming it still offers a lot more

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performance than the 7600x for just 20 extra dollars it also beats the more

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expensive 7700x while we didn't test that CPU today compared to the results

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from a ryzen 7000 review we see that the 7700x loses in nearly every category

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at the end of the work day Intel wins again they beat Andy's Flagship and

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while the victory is small the difference in price is massive the

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13900k undercuts the 7950x by a hundred

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and ten dollars nearly 16 percent and by

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providing 15 more performance at a mere 40 premium over the 7900x that squashes

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that CPU's performance at its current price point taking the performance and

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the value Crown oh Intel stop you can

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only win so hard hey what you use

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expensive RAM that's not fair I only have Chief ddr4 will these CPUs be any

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good for me to answer your rudely asked question we

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ran some tests again on ddr4 and using cheap jet XP ddr5 expect a deep dive

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regarding RAM speeds in the future but for today if you're on ddr4 our

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comparably fast kit on the 13600k and spec workstation C's performance remain

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virtually unchanged in most CPU workloads there were only a few notable

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drops and in the couple of games we tested we saw little to no difference

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okay well what about slower ddr5 well in the tests we ran on our 13900k we saw

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typically performance drops of about five percent on the lower kit if we saw

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anything one thing I hope to see is if Intel has

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managed to get their heat and power issues in check

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uh in our F1 thermal tests we see the

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13900k running at about 10 degrees hotter than its last gen counterpart but

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as AMD has shown us if you have thermal

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Headroom why not use it and pin the performance core is to full Boost right

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and in prime95 the 250 watt CPU managed

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to spike as high as 350 Watts so you

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need to make sure that you get a beefy cooler nhd15 from Noctua is the minimum

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that I would recommend the 13900k skyrockets to 100 degrees Celsius before

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dialing back the clocks from their all-core boost Target and settling in at

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about 90 degrees as for the 13600k well

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it's still managed well by the nhd15 staying 10 degrees shy of throttling and

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keeping clocks pinned at Max boost it is pulling 60 more watts and running

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15 degrees hotter than its last gen counterpart though but this is a worst

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case scenario so they like power but can they wield it responsibly Intel

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claimed that when running the 13900k at 65 Watts we could expect performance

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that is on par with the 12900k at 241

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Watts while the efficiency improvements they've made on this gen are impressive

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it seems that the Bold claim with a lengthy post script is not quite true

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40 percent worse performance in handbrake and that's more of a double

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bogey than a par but looking at spec workstation the improvements to

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efficiency are more in line with Intel's claims overall Intel has managed to make

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some big improvements to their CPUs without increasing power budgets like

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AMD although In fairness Intel's power Bunch was already and still is Sky High

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and they are doing better numbers at a better price remember the 13900k meets

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or beats the 7950x in almost all workloads for 110 dollars less now I

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understand that a few of you might be feeling a bit sad with your already

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aging ryzen 5 5600x but remember these

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three things at 1080p in most games performance differences will be

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imperceptible because a lot of these games are already running faster than

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most monitors can refresh and a lot of

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the performance differences in our charts are only exposed when the chips

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are run alongside a sixteen hundred dollar GPU as much as it feels bad man

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to see your three-year-old CPU getting bodied by these new Chips the year over

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year performance improvements that we are seeing thanks to this renewed

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