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Inside of this box right here is the new MSI Raider, but not any MSI Raider. This

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right here has both the new AMD X3D

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mobile chip and a mobile 590, meaning that this right here has the fastest

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possible hardware combination for a laptop. Just how fast is it?

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Well, we're about to find out. It's a big box. Takes up like the whole frame

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of the top down. Jeez, this thing's freaking

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huge. I can already tell you that much. Oh my. This thing's freaking heavy. It's

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like an absolute weapon of a power brick

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here. Holy freak. 400 watts is what we're able to

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get out of this charger over a proprietary connector, which makes a lot

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of sense cuz you would need two USB type-C chargers in order to deliver that

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kind of power. And this just makes a lot

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more sense. 3 lb on the power brick. For

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context, uh the laptop I'm currently

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using, the HP ZBbook Ultra, is half a pound heavier than just the

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power brick that comes with the Raider.

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Holy freak. This thing has to be like 7 12

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lb. Let's see about that. 8 lb on the laptop. That is

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freaking wild. You're going to have 11 lbs in your backpack with both of these.

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But I can see why. Look at the size of

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the heat sinks that are in this thing. So much just bare copper in there. It is

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freaking beautiful. The the heat pipe

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situation down here is crazy. Looking at the outside of the

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Raider, the design is quite gamer. It's

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not super duper insane, but these red

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accents here and the general mass and size of the thing certainly lets you

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know that it's a gaming laptop and a half. As for IO, on the right hand side,

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we have headphone microphone combo jack, USB typeA, two Thunderbolt 4s. Around

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the back, we have our power input, HDMI 2.1 and 2.5 GB networking. And on the

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left hand side, we have two more USB type A's and a full-size SD card reader.

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Now, one thing that you don't get on this model is Thunderbolt 5.

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But we also have a second MSI Raider

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here today. This one has Intel in it and the IO is all basically the same except

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over on this side you get Thunderbolt 5.

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Unfortunately, we can't fully drag race these two because the Intel one has a

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5080 in it, but it will be nice to see the 5090 versus the 5080. And we can do

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a little bit of CPU testing. One thing I am definitely noticing here is that this

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laptop is a bit of a fingerprint magnet. Like if you look here, I'm just going to

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give it a little bit of a touchy touch. I'm not even like incredibly sweaty or

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anything right now. This thing just really really

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Yeah. All right, let's open this beast up. As I am sure you've been able to

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tell, this is an 18-in laptop and it is

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gargantuan. Like this trackpad right here, it is of a pretty decent size, but

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it just looks like a tiny little island because this laptop is so freaking big.

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Like let's compare to the one on like a normal laptop. They are basically the

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same size which means this is more than good enough. It just looks tiny. There's

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no point in even trying to use this on battery, right? Let's plug her straight

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in. It's the Dragon RGB. Oh, it is. Hell

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yeah. One thing I am immediately noticing using the Raider is that the

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trackpad just is not big enough. Uh, I

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know that I did just say that it's about the same size as on the 14 in, but the

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problem that I'm having is is that it's just not really like in a position that

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makes any sense cuz I keep on like indexing my hands based off of it being

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down here, but you actually want to be

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like thereish. So, I keep on clicking

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like down here on the bottom where there's no actual trackpad. And one

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thing that also is very unfortunate is that because there's a numpad over here,

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absolutely love it. Thank you, MSI. The trackpad is not centered with your

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keyboard. So, you're going to be sitting

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here something like this. And for one,

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the palm rejection is an absolute nightmare because I keep on clicking it

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cuz my entire hand is on top of the trackpad. But also, I really like to use

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my thumb and it's not anywhere close to the trackpad. So, that sucks. Uh, and

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also it's not RGB, which I was hoping it would be. So, uh, I don't know. It's

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just kind of all around. The keyboard is pretty good. The problem I'm

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having is that this stupid trackpad is,

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like I already mentioned, exactly where I want to have my right hand and I keep

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on clicking it and then I'm not typing where I'm supposed to be typing. This is

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a desktop replacement, so chances are you will just turn off the trackpad and

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use a mouse over here. But a lot of

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other brands have figured out how to do trackpads properly on 18-in laptops, and

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this is not good enough MSI. Actually, you know what? Let's just do that. I

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want a mouse. There we go. I can't believe it. The keyboard's not even bad

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either. On a lot of MSI laptops that don't have those, like the Cherry MX

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switches, I sort of expect the keyboard to be mediocre, but this right here is

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like decent. Like I'm going to give it an A minus for a keyboard, but the

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experience of using it is like a B

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because I just keep on clicking the trackpad and you can't use the trackpad

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when you do the keyboard. So, it's a B. Well, that's a bit of a disappointing

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at the reason that we're actually here, though, the performance. Inside of this

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thing is an AMD Ryzen 9 9955HX 3D 16 core processor. The CPU is

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able to go up to 5.4 GHz. And those 16

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cores are 16 cores. Like you don't have

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any of those high efficiency, low power cores. None of those nonsense going slow

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stuff. These are 16 real big fat meaty

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cores that can do whatever you want them to besides have your battery last a

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while. To complement that, we have 64 GB

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of RAM which is running at 5600 mega transfers per second, which means that

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we might be able to replace it. That's the sort of speeds that you can get out of a Sodom. We also have two SSDs. One

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is 2 TB. Oh, the second one is also 2 TB. So you could raid zero them if you

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want it to be even faster and you don't care at all about your data. And for the

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GPU, we have AMD Radeon graphics, which

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only has two cores in this configuration, meaning it's not really

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there, but that doesn't matter because we also have an RTX 5090 mobile, which

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is basically a desktop 5080, but even

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slower. Now, we do have 24 GB of RAM. So, if you're doing professional

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workloads on the go, this thing will be pretty awesome, but it has almost

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identical core counts to the desktop

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5080 and it's also clocked an entire

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gigahertz slower. So, if you're going into this expecting desktop 5090

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performance, you're not going to get it. But what I want to do right now is see

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just how fast all of those cores can go.

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We have Cinebench on here. And let's bring out the Intel version as well. All

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right, we have laptop number two here. And it is speced out with an Intel Core

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Ultra 9285HX, which has 24 cores, but only

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eight of those are performance cores and 16 of them are efficiency cores. It's

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also able to go up to 5.5 GHz. And the

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memory on this one is also slightly faster at 6,400 mega transfers per

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second instead of the 5600 that we found on our AMD system. All right, it is time

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for our drag race. We are in Cinebench R23 because I think it's more fun to

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look at than R24.

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Go. The AMD1 started up way faster and

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it's going way faster. And what's our score?

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38,988 points out of this guy and

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38,187 points on the Intel. That is nearly a dead heat between these two.

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Under 1,000 points when you're going that fast is pretty much within the run

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to run variance. So, we can effectively say that these are pretty damn close.

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Well, now that we know it's slightly slower, our Intel system can once again

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go away. All right, let's give this guy a little game here. booted up Doom

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Eternal and hopefully it is a good one. I am screen recording at the moment, so

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the FPS won't be quite as high as you would expect to have. Oh wow, I am bad.

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It does look like we're getting around 140 to 160 FPS, which is pretty good,

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especially given that this is 4K, but at

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the same time, I am seeing a lot of screen

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tearing. And I'm really really disappointed that this monitor does not

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have G-Sync as an option for a laptop

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that is this expensive. And especially

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given the fact that it is a 4K monitor where in all games you aren't

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necessarily going to be able to get all of the 120 FPS or even in this where

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we're getting over it. I'm still seeing screen tearing. It's not as premium of an experience as I would hope for. And

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the actual gaming portion is pretty great, but the screen is not so good. I

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am not super impressed. I need to break

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out the other laptop because this AMD system has an engineering sample panel.

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So, it's not quite what we're looking for, but we have the Intel one. So, one

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second. All right, we're on the Intel machine now with the properly calibrated

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panel, and it actually looks really quite good in SDR. We're able to get a

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bit over,00 nits peak brightness, which is fantastic. and it's accurate enough

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for most of what you're doing as long as you're not a photo or video

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professional. Out of the box, our model was a little bit blue in sRGB mode. I

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don't mind that too much cuz you'll just get used to it. Your eyes will sort of

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white balance it for you after a little bit. And overall, I think that this

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looks pretty great. Where things fall apart, though, is when you enable HDR.

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Just look at this background right here. Then I'm going to turn on HDR.

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It's bright. It certainly is really bright. All right, we are now in

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HDR. It looks

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horrible. Like, did you see that? It's just literally the entire screen is

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blown out and the saturation is just off

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the charts. It is obscene how colorful

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this is. Future Alex here. After recording, we found out that if you turn

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on HDR and then restart the whole

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laptop, the display goes from really bad to really bad but not quite as bad. For

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comparison, this time I have a MacBook Pro, which by the way has a brighter

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screen. And it is so much less bright

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and also so much just actual colors.

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Once again, now we'll take this guy, turn the HDR brightness all the way down

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to make it somewhere reasonableish. And

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now it's kind of looking okay. And all that we had to do was restart it and

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completely change the settings. Okay, this I can kind of stand, but it is

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still completely incorrect. It's not even close. In our bestcase scenario,

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with the brightness turned all the way down on the MSI and it restarted, we're

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only able to get a 64.3 delta EITP. And again, 12 is what

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we expect for an okay viewing

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experience. It is still so comically

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oversaturated and over brightened that

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stuff that you're looking at in HDR on the MSI sadly just looks cartoonish.

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Now, for our performance results, we tested the MSI Raider with the 5080 and

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the Intel chip, plus our 5090 against an Asus Stricks Scar that had a 4090 in it

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to see how it's improved generation over generation. And it has a little bit at

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1600p in Total War Warhammer 3, we were

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able to get an extra 13% performance on the 5090 compared to the 4090. The 5080,

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however, was 1% slower. In

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F12024, similar results. The 5090 has

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about a 9.2% uplift, while the 5080 is

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again 1% slower than the 4090. And in

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Cyberpunk 2027, we had a much bigger uplift for the 5090 over the 4090,

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nearly 20%, but the 5080 was only 3.25,

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25, meaning that it's near as makes no difference to last generation's best.

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So, overall, it is a nice little gen over gen bump, but at the same time,

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it's nowhere near the price bump. We'll get to that later. Maybe the speakers

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will be a redemption, though. In here, we have six speakers, two woofers, and

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four tweeters, which maybe sound good. We'll find out.

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All right. It sounds loud and clear, although I suspect there won't be a

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whole lot of bass. Oh, that's not too bad. It's kind

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of nicely balanced. Belle, can I borrow your MacBook for a second? Here we have

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the MSI. Switching over to Mac. Wow,

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that's way

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better. The MSI sounds like junk now.

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It's amazing how a laptop of this size is able to just completely destroy the

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speakers on one that has all this space to put in way more bass. One thing that

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is quite nice though is the webcam. Well, maybe the webcam itself isn't, but

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we do have a little switch here beside the webcam, which I really appreciate.

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You can super easily just know that no one's looking at you on your free time.

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Open back up here. We also have Windows Hello facial recognition. Absolutely

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love to see that. So, this webcam right here is going to be decent enough for

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what you might want to do for video calling people, but do not expect it to

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be accurate. Actually, maybe this is just the display being a piece of Once

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again. Oh, that looks way better. It's just that HDR was on and it looks like

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ass. Going back to the AMD one here to have a look inside of that

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one. 12 Phillips head screws later and we are in. And holy

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crap, that is some impressive heat

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pipage. In here, we have two big beefy

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fans and also six heat pipes. Although,

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if you spring for the Gen 5 SSD option,

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you even get a seventh heat pipe that goes down onto that guy. In here, we

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also have two SSDs that are upgradeable.

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Love to see that. Looking underneath the SSD here, we have a great big thermal

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pad, which is great. So, if you want to put in a double-sided SSD in the future,

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it should be no problem. You just might have to get a slightly thinner thermal

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pad for it. Also, what is incredibly exciting here, look at that. We have our

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RAM right here. You can replace it just as you want. This one's 32 GB. So, if

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you want to upgrade it in the future or just your RAM dies, here you go. You can

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do it. Now, what's a little bit not as good is the battery. It is literally as

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large as they could make it. This thing right here is 99.99 W hours. And uh that

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doesn't matter when you have a computer that's this large and this powerful. We

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tested the Intel one, which is verified to have the correct battery life, and it

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came in a bit over 4 hours. So, uh do

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not expect to be like going to the library and writing a paper with this

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thing right here on battery. You're going to have to take that three lb

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great big brick wherever you go. And one final thing while we're in here, the

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Wi-Fi card is replaceable. And on the AMD system, you will want to because the

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MediaTek Wi-Fi cards are just not as

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good as the Intel ones or the Qualcomm ones. You will have some problems with

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connections and stuff like that. At least in my experience. So, so far, this

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laptop's been a bit of a mixed bag, but the price makes it not. This thing right

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here is $5,600, and for that, MSI's out

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to lunch. Who the is going to buy this thing for

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$5,600? The strict SCAR that we looked at with the 4090 in it cost $4,000. Now,

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that does have less RAM and less storage, but

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$1600 to upgrade to the next gen, plus a

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better RAM and storage is insane. I am sure this is not entirely MSI's fault.

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NVIDIA probably has the prices of these 50 series chips just absolutely to the

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moon. But man, it's pretty rough. The

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Intel system with the 5080 also is very close to

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$5,400. And as we saw, it performs pretty much identically to the 4090 that

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uh costs what, $1,400 less.

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Uh, wow. It's not a great time to be

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buying a gaming laptop, at least if you're trying to get one that's this

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baller here. So, MSI, let's just

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uh talk about this one for a second. This laptop is

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$5,600. The trackpad being really annoying and just not good enough for a

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laptop of this price, I think I could get over, but the screen I cannot. The

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things that matter the most when you are designing a laptop are the keyboard, the

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trackpad, and the screen because those are things that you are actually

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interacting with. And when two of those three are misses, the whole laptop's a

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miss. It doesn't matter. A MacBook Air is a better laptop than this $5,600

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piece of trash. It doesn't matter if you can game at 1,000 FPS if those,000 FPS

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are delivered to your eyeballs through something that looks like a piece of

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crap. But I hope that you, the viewer, had a good time. I hope you guys enjoyed

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watching this. Hit like, get subscribed, and I don't know, tweet at NVIDIA and

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tell them that their prices are stupid. And have a great old