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Back in 1998, I was just a Wii lad playing games like Diablo I and

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Starcraft. Well, Main Gear decided to take me back to that magical time before

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everything kind of went upside down with their new Retro 98. Let's take a look at

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this thing. This is just the Silverstone box because they're just using the FLPO2

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from Silverstone, which is a really cool retro style case. Uh, but they're adding

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their own Main Gear twist to it that we're going to take a look at. Yeah.

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>> Okay. Pretty cool. Uh, one minor thing that I'm actually noticing right away,

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they're kind of just using the foam that comes in the Silverstoneone box for the

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case. And when it's just the case, that's fine. This foam can't withstand a

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ton of shocks or, you know, drops or vibrations. But, uh, you can see that

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here because we've got all that extra

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weight from our computer components. Um,

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it looks like this was dropped at some point and the whole bottom just kind of

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shredded. Not ideal, but that's okay

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because the rest of the system did show up intact. I'm just a little surprised

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because like I've opened computers for Mang Gear on Secret Shopper and the Doom

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PC and they're just usually packaged a little nicer than this. Take me back to

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the beige era. Back when everyone used to smoke inside so all of your beige

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plastic components turned yellow over time. I love when you'd go into

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someone's house whose like parents were smokers and you'd look at their Super

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Nintendo and it's like yellow. They don't even smoke in the living room with

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the TV, but like it doesn't matter. Uh, got a little extra hardware bag from

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Main Gear. Probably power supply cables.

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Ah, we've got our key because we'll get

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to it later. But this has a lock on the front. Okay, what else we got? C13 power

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cable. Our Wi-Fi antenna. Power supply. Power supply. power supply. These look

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like cable combs, although for which cables, I'm not quite sure. Oh, just

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some uh motherboard accessories. We've got our CPU socket cover. Keep this in

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case you ever have to RMA anything. Uh SATA cables. This looks like a fan

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extension or RGB. Cool. So, this bag was just all motherboard stuff. And then

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we've got some screws and some zip ties. We've also got this AMD mounting [music]

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hardware probably for the cooler that goes in the system. One thing to note,

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there are four different configurations of the Retro 98. This is the lowest tier

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option. It's got an RTX 5070, but it's

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also got our only Intel CPU, a Core Ultra 7265K.

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Every other tier of the Retro 98 is

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going to have an AMD 9800 X3D, 9850 X3D,

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or I think the top tier is a 9950 X3D. Either way, they're all X3D chips except

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for this guy. Uh, one thing that I love right away,

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it's a solid side [music] panel and so it is like a true sleeper. The one thing

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about that is that RGB, you know, this probably isn't going to glow very much.

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I think up at the top we've got some fans and maybe at the back, but uh otherwise any RGB that's installed is

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kind of useless. But the other cool thing is all on the front. So, we've got

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these drive bays. They are openable.

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Okay. Well, I'll do that once. Uh, yeah, let's just pop. Sure. Whatever. You can

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actually put a 5 and a/4 in drive in here. So, let's say you want a Blu-ray

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player or I don't even know cuz I haven't had to use a 5 and a/4

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[laughter] in bay in like over 15 years.

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But yeah, if you've got some cool thing that's really old like like maybe one of

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those little sine wave uh guys that people used to put on the front of their computers, uh you can do that. One thing

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to note actually is that they've got the AIO installed so that the hose is over

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here. You might have to flip that if you want to fit something that actually

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pushes all the way back. And then if you buy one of the higherend systems, I

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think it's the Alpha, that one is going to have a reservoir

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>> [music] >> um in this spot cuz it's custom water cooled. So depending on your actual use

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case, if this is just, you know, cosmetic for you, doesn't matter. But if

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it's not and you're going to actually use it for something, just something to think about. Another really cool 5 and

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a/4 in bay uh solution that you could use is like extra IO ports on the front.

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However, Silverstone did something really cool here. Look at that. There's

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your top front case IO. It's all hidden back here. And we've got a couple of

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USBA ports, USBC, and then it looks like

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a headphone jack. At the very least, it's probably a mic headphone combo

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jack. And then, if you haven't noticed already, I don't know how you can miss

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it. Um, we've got a really cool like power switch system. This is where it

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is. You're not There's no button up here. There's no button on the side. That's not a button. That's your power

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button. You can actually lock the power button with the keys. Clearly doesn't

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physically lock the switch. So, I'm guessing it just like hits a relay that

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turns it off or something. I don't We'll try it once it's actually plugged in. Um, but you should be able to lock your

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computer, which is pretty sweet. And then you've got like a proper reset button and a turbo button. For those of

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you unaware, turbo buttons used to adjust your clock speed on your CPU,

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either to slow it down or I think sometimes it sped it up, but it was

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mostly to slow it down to keep the clocks in line with whatever game you were playing. Our turbo button does not

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affect your CPU like that. Instead, what it's going to do is just ramp up all of

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our fans. Uh, the Labs did test this thing and ramping up the fans does make

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a temperature difference, but it's not a drastic one. So, I don't know. For me,

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it's mostly just a cool aesthetic thing. I probably wouldn't turn it on cuz like

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I don't know, your CPU is going to be pretty cool anyway, but uh just a neat

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little feature to give a little throwback to the times of Yore. I also

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love how they've got this old school like Main Gear 98 logo on the bottom

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here. Looks like a classic early 3D logo

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kind of thing. One cool thing I just kind of noticed is you can see on the

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little board they've got back here for all these controls. It even says turbo

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right there. One of the cool things is that unlike, you know, building your own

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sleeper PC that is kind of a nightmare sometimes trying to fit modern hardware

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in an old case. This is a new case that just is styled in a retro way. And so it

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has modern features like these nice thumb screws and you know the whole case

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pulls apart no problem. I'm going to take a look at the back first. And of

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course, in classic Main Gear fashion, it is beautifully cable managed. On top of

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easily removable panels, we've got rubber grommets. We've also got some

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nice cable tie down points and some decent cable routing. And then we've

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also got a couple of nice 2 and 1/2 in SSD sleds back here. Love to see it. My

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only other kind of complaint is that for this system with a 5070 and a Core Ultra

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7265K, we've only got a 650 watt 80 plus

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gold power supply. It is a nice MSI power supply and it is 80 plus gold

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which is great. I just I would have loved 750 this way. You know, we're kind

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of like really up against the limits

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right now. And so if you make any kind of upgrades in the future, you can probably get away with it if it's not

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too big of a deal. But like you're not going to be throwing a 5080 or 5090 in

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here without uh maybe secondg guessing upgrading the power supply. For

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instance, their 5080 version, which is just the next tier up from this, comes

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with an 850 W power supply. So if that's what they're putting alongside that,

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it's probably what you're going to want, too. So minor issue, but you're still

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getting what you pay for. The price is actually relatively reasonable uh based

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on the hardware inside this. We'll get to that later. First, I want to show you the inside on this side, the good stuff.

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Here's our RTX 5070. It is a Founders Edition, you know, which do look pretty

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sexy. And they've even done uh their due diligence and actually managed the cable

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to go along it and then out instead of just dropping down into here or

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something. That would have just been kind of lazy. So, it actually looks pretty sleek. And then the really nice

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thing is, you know, memory is hard to come by these days. And these are two 16

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gig sticks of DDR5. So we're getting 32 gigs of DDR5. Pretty solid. And then

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we've just got a 360 mm AIO from Main

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Gear right here. So whatever CPU you upgrade to, AMD or not, change the

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board, doesn't matter. This cooler should be uh plenty strong enough for

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it. And then as for storage, we've got a 2 terbte Gen 4 NVMe drive. Those are

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also becoming very hard to come by. So,

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you know, I never thought I'd say this, but [music] maybe it is time to buy a

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pre-built instead of building your own PC. I'm actually in the middle of

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building my own NAS right now. And let me tell you, I just spent $1,200 on hard

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drives. And I'm glad I did because they're basically impossible to find now, just a couple weeks later. And even

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SSDs, I'm lucky that I already have a boot drive because even Gen 4 like one

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or two TB drives are either way up in price or just unavailable. All of our

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cables are pretty nicely managed. just, you know, it looks really pretty. I'm a

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big fan of um having this like fully

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modern look, but if you get the alpha version, which is the most top tier of

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top tier, you get some cool like ketchup and mustard cables for that really

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classic red and yellow look for those of you who want it. One other cool thing I

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just noticed if they is they've got this really cool like fan hub over here in

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the back. So, you've actually got if you do want to add more fans, the ones they

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include are actually pretty solid. We tested them and they performed better than we expected, but there's a big fan

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hub here. Yeah, very nice. You can also pop the top off pretty easily by just

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undoing this screw and pulling that out there if you ever need to change

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anything with your radiator. That's how you get at it. And once we get to the

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back, there are a couple of pretty cool things. Uh, one, if you did want to,

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there are vertical mount slots for your GPU. You're not going to see it unless

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you take the side panel off, but you know, if you take that side panel off to show things off, you're probably out of

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LAN or something. And so it'll look pretty sick and like you totally could.

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It' be pretty awesome. But there was one small problem. It's not a big deal, but

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this fan is set to intake currently, and there's no uh mesh filter at all for

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dust. So, your PC will maybe get a little dusty over time, but like it's

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probably not that I don't know, it's probably not that bad. Uh the other issue though is that this motherboard

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when we received it, it didn't have a little sticker over it saying, "Hey,

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don't plug your monitor into this. Plug it into the graphics card." So, if

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you're new to PC gaming, just don't use these. That's for your motherboard's

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onboard graphics, which thankfully the Core Ultra 7265K has, but um your

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performance is going to be kind of trash [laughter]

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if that's where you plug your monitor into. Uh but I do love how the board

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also has some pretty decent IO. I mean, we've got plenty of USB, uh USBC with

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power delivery, and it's even got a PS2 port if you really want to complete the

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look and use a really old school mouse and keyboard. One thing I neglected to

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mention is it's got a 3D printed GPU bracket, which is great. But the only

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problem is it's attached over here, so you've kind of got to take your

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motherboard off to get the bracket off, which kind of sucks. The other thing is

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it did come packaged without any internal uh foam, like you know, the

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self-expanding stuff. They do have that GPU anti-ag bracket, so it's probably

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fine, but I would like to see just a

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little bit more um packing material. it. They usually do it. So, I was kind of

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surprised that it didn't come with any. Overall, it looks pretty sick and I

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would love to have something like this. Uh, so let's get it all put back

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>> Moment of truth. [music] Maybe it's locked. It is.

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All right. Yo, the lock button works. That's so

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cool. And it looks like our LED screen here. I'm not sure if that 49 is our CPU

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temp, but it probably is. I'm not sure what else it might [music] represent.

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Wa! [screaming] This is awesome. And we've got the same like 3D Main Gear logo set to our

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wallpaper here with a little 98. This thing is dope. We've got one of those

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dual mode monitors here. And I was about to set this to like 4K cuz I don't need

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500 Hz, but uh I forgot that we've only got a 5070. So this might be one of the

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actual times where I do want to run at 1080p

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and just cool 500 Hz, why not? So yeah, let's do that. Let's swap that back. Now

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that our display is ready to go and we've got our computer all fired up, we're going to change to 60 FPS on our

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camera cuz we're about to game. Just going to check out some of our specs

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real quick here. Uh, yep, there's our CPU. As for our memory, 32 gigs,

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currently running at 4,800 megat transfers per second. I am pretty sure

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that there is a profile setup, but it's not enabled out of the box. So, if you

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do buy this, because it says it was handbuilt by one guy, it's entirely

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possible that the same mistake is across every system. So, we're going to go

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ahead and enable all of our XMPP so that we get the rated speed because these

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sticks should go to like 6,000 megat transfers per second. And uh you know,

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if I paid for it, I didn't, but if you paid for it, then you should get it. One

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last thing before we do that though, I've opened up hardware info and I want to just see if like our CPU temperature

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matches what's displayed there. Um or

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our GPU temps, maybe cuz yeah, I'm sitting at like 33 C, 39 C, and that's

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only 26 27. Okay, CPU GT cores are set

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to 28. So maybe it's measuring that. I don't know. Where's our GPU? Even our

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graphics card is measuring about 33 34C. So I'm not 100% sure if that's correct.

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But you know what? Let's hit the turbo button. Instantly the fans crank up. Now it says

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HH, which I'm a little concerned about.

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I don't think it should say HH. I'll let you figure out why. All right.

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memory 6,400 mega transfers per second, which I think is actually faster than

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the 6,000 that it's rated for. Um, so I don't know if they just gave us a memory

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bump or what, but yeah, it's running faster than it should. So that's always great. Still haven't confirmed that the

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CPU temp is correct on the readout there. One thing that I forgot to

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mention earlier is that as you can tell,

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or maybe not, it's a little noisy right now after I enabled XMPP and restarted

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it. Um, if I hit the turbo button,

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it's already loud and you hear new fans ramp up. And that's because it's only

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connected to the case fans. It's not actually affecting our AIO, which is

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kind of annoying. I really wish all of them were just connected to the one

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turbo button. Just going to load up some Cyberpunk really quick. We did test a

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number of games and guess what? They all perform like they would on a 5070 and a

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Core Ultra 265K with uh the memory and storage that we have in there. So, you

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know, you're not giving up any performance. You're getting what you paid for. Hell yeah. All right. RTX

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5070. You know, 1080p, but we're set to ray tracing medium, and we're getting

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like 120 115 FPS. Pretty solid here. Uh,

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Cyberpunk looks great. I'm going to blast these people. Yeah, we tested

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Cyberpunk, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us, Alan Wake 2, and F1. And all

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of those games performed as expected. As

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for temps, they also performed as expected. Our turbo mode does make a

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very minor difference, but it makes a difference. Makes sense. Fans going

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faster, pushing [music] more air, cooling down components. Not a huge deal

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cuz uh you know, this thing's not going to get that hot already, but I could

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seeing it being a great feature for one of the higherend systems with the higherend hardware in them. One final

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unfortunate thing about this is that it is getting pretty loud. like this is,

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you know, at this point I'd like to have the computer under the desk and maybe even a separate room. Uh because ever

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since we enabled XMPP, I don't know if it just enabled a different fan profile

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or what, but I don't know. I can hear them even with the side panel on. And if

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you hit the turbo button,

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it just gets louder. To be clear, I did enable XMPP and change some settings, so

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that might be the problem. But like, I don't know. I paid for 6,000 mega

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transfers per second memory. I want to use 6,000 mega transfers per second

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memory. Now, as for the price, all of

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our hardware considered, $2,500 for this guy isn't really a bad deal, especially

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when you look at the prices of SSDs and RAM right now. However, if you go up to

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the alpha version with a 5090, it's going to cost you $9,800, which I think

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is a little extreme. Um, I don't know

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how much I can justify that price. I'm honestly not even sure if they were

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like, you know, it's nine grand, but it's the N it's the Retro98. We should

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just charge 9,800. I from a marketing perspective, sure, I agree. From a user

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perspective, I'm not so sure if I'm personally willing to shell out for the

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top tier system. This one though, I think it's reasonable considering what

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you're getting. But if you don't want to do that, you know, Mangar does offer

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pretty good support when it comes to pre-builts. Check out Secret Shopper.

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You can get the FLP2 from Silverstone

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for about $250. It's still an expensive

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case, um, but it's honestly pretty solid and you're getting something that's very

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unique. And so, at that point, I would honestly I like this case. I I kind of

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want to buy one myself just to build my next computer in it, whatever that may

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be. And you know what? I'm not really sure when the end of this video is going to be. Maybe it's now. Uh, thanks for

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watching. I'm This is ShortCircuit. If you want to check out another one, uh,

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check out the Doom PC. That was also for main gear and it was also very