WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.839 Before you is the Linus Tech Tips writing team who contributes to just 00:00:03.760 --> 00:00:10.639 about every piece of content coming out of Linus Media Group. And today I'm 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:14.400 going to be making some statements about tech [music] and they are going to walk 00:00:12.559 --> 00:00:20.160 to their stance on the floor ranging from strongly agree to strongly 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:25.439 disagree. But do they all agree or disagree the same? Probably not. I'm so 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:32.679 ready for the fireworks. Open- source software is always better than closed 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:32.679 source proprietary software. 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:40.320 >> Wow, the first one we didn't all uh disagree on. Have you used 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:47.039 >> That was what I was going to say. >> It's really bad. >> Yeah, Blender is amazing now, but I got 00:00:44.160 --> 00:00:49.780 used to Maya, which is amazing, and then you move over to Blender and it's like, 00:00:48.559 --> 00:00:55.520 what am I even doing here? >> [music] >> As someone who's going through the Linux challenge currently with Linus, uh 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:59.600 nothing I miss more right now than Adobe. [music] As much as I hate paying 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:02.879 for Adobe, Kaden Live is not an alternative to a video editing software. 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:05.519 And I think really the issue is that the statement is like always. 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:09.200 >> Yes. [music] >> And often it isn't. And I think that 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:12.560 there it sucks that there has been this like paradigm shift away from the idea 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:18.080 of open computing cuz there was a lot of push for that in the '90s and early 2000s. [music] And it's kind of becoming 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:21.439 more proprietary as we speak, especially with all these companies benefiting from 00:01:19.520 --> 00:01:27.360 all of the hard work. Yeah. Of the open source community. >> Yeah. The the always was strong for me 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:30.960 as well. One of the pieces of software that I had a bunch of experience with 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:34.400 coming from kind of the professional side was people trying to use Open 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:38.960 Office or Libra Office. >> Yeah. Dude, >> in place of Microsoft Office or I mean 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:43.360 even Google Docs and whatnot, that's closed source, too. [music] >> Yeah. The collaborative features that 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:46.320 you get with the closed source systems are [music] miles beyond what you can do 00:01:45.520 --> 00:01:51.280 with open source. >> Yeah, I was thinking open office. Celtics is a script writing software. 00:01:49.759 --> 00:01:55.840 Well, right now is where I insert in the script the segue to our sponsor, 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:59.360 >> Acuity Scheduling. It's a flexible scheduling software that offers calendar 00:01:57.600 --> 00:02:03.520 management, booking tools, client communication, secure payments, custom 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:10.360 branding, and so much more. Use offer code LTT20 to save 20% off your first 00:02:06.320 --> 00:02:10.360 Acuity Scheduling subscription. 00:02:14.931 --> 00:02:21.280 >> [music] >> Tech reviewers struggle to properly 00:02:19.200 --> 00:02:24.599 represent the average user. >> I don't know. 00:02:25.040 --> 00:02:31.920 I don't know. I want to stay neutral. You stayed neutral. Plof. Why? Because I 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:36.000 think that some tech reviewers definitely don't. And I think some tech 00:02:33.760 --> 00:02:40.959 reviewers probably absolutely do. I think all reviewers on a crunch are 00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:44.720 going to struggle no matter what. They we don't get the time to really work 00:02:42.720 --> 00:02:47.680 with whatever item it is. Mainly maybe it's because of embargo. Maybe it's just 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:51.680 because we want to get our video out the fastest just like cuz we're competing with everyone else. And you're never 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:57.200 going to be able to get a truly representative measure of using a device 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:59.680 long term. If I have a product that I'm 00:02:57.200 --> 00:03:05.360 taking a look at for a weekend or a week or even a month sometimes isn't enough 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.879 to get a good idea of what that's going 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:12.080 to be like using it long term. >> Yeah. To me, I think that that's like the very crux of the dilemma of being a 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:17.519 reviewer. Like what separates a good reviewer? It's like literally the thing you are always striving for is to not 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:21.920 just be an authority in the space but to be an authority that can represent those 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:25.680 ideas and the audience [music] which is like always going to be at odds because 00:03:23.519 --> 00:03:29.360 you are always injecting your own perspectives which as an authority as 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:32.799 somebody who's knowledgeable is very very different from the average person. 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:35.840 The way to show that you are a great reviewer is being able to thread that 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.440 needle and that's like every single time that we're doing a CPU or a GPU review. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:44.480 That is always the struggle. >> I think in the end people just need to look at multiple sources. No matter 00:03:42.480 --> 00:03:46.239 what, never one source. Yeah, you got to find the guy who represents you the 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:51.400 best. >> Ray tracing is pointless for most people. 00:03:53.519 --> 00:03:57.280 >> I remember the last time we had a ray tracing conversation. Adam crashed out 00:03:56.799 --> 00:04:01.680 pretty hard >> cuz ray tracing is path tracing. Okay. So when they just they just lied the 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:06.480 whole time. They lied the whole time. It's like how no it's not okay. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:10.239 >> So I'm not surprised he's all the way at strongly agree here. I don't think that 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:13.680 anyone has seen a substantial visual fidelity benefit at a at a trade-off 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:16.479 that is reasonable for the performance. I think that ray tracing makes a lot of 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:21.120 sense if you're somebody who's doing rendering work. I think that accelerating rate tracing makes sense if 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:26.479 you're somebody who's doing film. I think that [music] as an enhancement to 00:04:24.479 --> 00:04:30.000 video games and real-time rate tracing, it's worthless. It is a bad avenue. It 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:35.840 has been like, "What if we made something really hard to do and just threw computers at the problem and then 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:38.080 we charged you $2,000 to get one card 00:04:35.840 --> 00:04:42.560 that is even remotely good at it." Every innovation NVIDIA has done in the past 4 00:04:39.919 --> 00:04:46.900 years has been attempts to make to unify ray tracing. My main problem is the 00:04:44.479 --> 00:04:51.040 pointless aspect of it. I think that [music] one part of ray tracing that a 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.400 lot of people forget about is reflections. I think lighting we can do 00:04:52.960 --> 00:04:58.400 really well. We just can't do reflections in games. like just flat out 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:02.720 it just is not possible without some kind of trick where you're duplicating the world behind the mirror or [music] 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:05.680 whatever. And there's something about at least for me and I honestly think most 00:05:04.479 --> 00:05:09.440 people when they're watching game footage of like Spider-Man or 00:05:07.520 --> 00:05:12.479 Battlefield has pretty good reflections when you're watching that footage 00:05:10.880 --> 00:05:16.960 something about it just looks so much more real. And I'm not even talking about the shadows falling properly or 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:20.720 anything. It's it's really the reflections. >> So nice to watch. Sucks to play. 00:05:19.520 --> 00:05:23.600 >> Well, I mean I'm watching the trailers and stuff but >> I mean it looks great. That's what I'm 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:27.120 saying. It's great for rendering. It's great for filmmakers. But I mean, you also don't have to play everything at 00:05:26.479 --> 00:05:30.720 4K. >> You're hung up on pointless. I'm hung up on most people. 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:35.120 >> There you go. >> I I'm hung up on ray tracing. 00:05:33.039 --> 00:05:39.039 >> Yeah. What is that? [laughter] >> I mean, I'm I'm kind of on the pointless 00:05:37.440 --> 00:05:42.800 side as well. I I think that there is definitely a point, especially for 00:05:40.479 --> 00:05:48.000 people who are trying to show off the capabilities of what an engine's able to 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:49.759 do. Ray tracing in photo mode is also 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:54.240 like amazing. Yeah, >> you can get really, really cool 00:05:51.919 --> 00:05:57.039 screenshots of scenic pictures and you wouldn't be able to do that without the 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:03.080 ray tracing. >> Linux gaming will overtake Windows one 00:06:00.080 --> 00:06:03.080 day. 00:06:06.479 --> 00:06:12.080 >> Linux has a chicken and an egg problem right now where 00:06:10.080 --> 00:06:16.240 >> I think it truly is ready for most gamers. The problem is the most popular 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:19.280 games don't work on it. How do you convince developers to prioritize 00:06:17.840 --> 00:06:23.520 developing there if there's no players, right? That chicken and egg situation. I 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:27.680 want it to to be very clear. I want Linux to give Microsoft a run for their 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:31.280 money. I [music] just can't see it happening, especially with the state of 00:06:29.280 --> 00:06:35.039 the Linux community. I think they're the biggest turnoff for most people wanting 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:38.319 to decide to switch because no matter what you do, it's wrong. No matter what 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:41.759 you do, you it's your fault. If anything, I've learned from doing Basite 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:43.600 for a month is just don't ask people for help because if you do, you get 00:06:43.039 --> 00:06:48.080 insulted. >> You should have read the documentation. >> Yeah, my bad. documentation. 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:51.680 >> Okay, I'll read 700 pages of documentation. I didn't have to do that with Windows when I grew up. 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:57.199 >> You just click next a bunch of times. >> Yeah, right. >> I think that as long as Microsoft is 00:06:54.880 --> 00:07:01.759 still has like an Xbox gaming division, there will just be too much support for 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:05.919 it to ever be fully overtaken, but I'm also pretty neutral because like yeah, 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:11.039 Steam Machine is going to be here and um I just think that will overtake someday 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.280 is kind of too certain for me. I just I don't think that'll happen. And I think 00:07:12.080 --> 00:07:19.120 if anything they might compete in the same space, but >> I think eventually we're going to see a 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:21.199 lot more Linux- based handhelds. That is 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:24.720 a big one from my point of view. Steam Machine, we'll see how well it does 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:29.039 trying to [music] bring that type of environment into kind of a console 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:32.880 experience, but the Steam Deck has shown pretty definitively that you can get a 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:38.080 handheld that works really well running on Linux. I just want to see normies be 00:07:35.919 --> 00:07:41.919 part of that space cuz like yeah there are normies with Steam Decks but I'd 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:46.639 argue it's mostly enthusiasts that have handhelds in general >> till I can go into Best Buy and buy a 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:50.240 Basite box or something right I don't think it's going to be mainstream enough 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:54.639 >> and even then will it be mainstream enough to then overtake Windows I don't 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:58.800 know like compete sure but I don't know about overtake >> the most profitable section of gaming is 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:04.400 already on Linux >> mobile phones >> mobile phones heard true cloud gaming is 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:08.160 still increasing in growth. It's slowed down a lot, but once they can sort out 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:11.520 gaming without having to go through expensive Windows licensing, we're going 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:16.800 to see a larger transition. I think that as people get priced out of the hobby of 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:20.080 of computing, we're going to see more centralization and that's going to be 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:23.520 built on the backbone of Linux. Like I said, I want it to happen. I'm [music] 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:25.520 very pro it happening. It's going to be really tough. They've got a big uphill 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.960 battle. >> PC gaming is just plain better than 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.960 console gaming. surprised 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:44.159 you guys disagree. I think console gaming is easier and works more often. I 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:47.839 think that when it comes to the experience that you're going to have, 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:51.519 also on top of that, the library access you're going to have and sales also 00:08:49.760 --> 00:08:54.640 upgradeability. I can take a computer from, you know, I can make the PC of the 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:59.726 Thesius and slowly upgrade. I can't do that with a, you know, Xbox or something. I had a lot less headaches in 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:04.720 my life gaming when I just gamed on an [music] Xbox. Yeah, >> I will fully agree that PC gaming 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:10.240 unlocks everything [music] you just said. I mean, I had to deal with updates, but not in the same way. Like, 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:13.760 I could just turn my console off and I came back the next day and it was 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:19.519 updated. I think for the average person, a console gaming experience is just 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:22.320 better. Console cheaper console console 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:25.839 simpler console got all good game. I like console uh also play old game now 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:29.040 too. >> Speaking like >> I'm speaking like a console game. 00:09:28.546 --> 00:09:34.720 [laughter] >> Oh jeez. is that's going to go well. >> I just disagree that the PC is just 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.680 plain better. I think that there's lots of benefits like mod and community 00:09:36.640 --> 00:09:42.720 support, but then there's lots of downsides. Like literally the first thing I do every single time I play a 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:47.440 game is pop into the settings menu. I'm like, "Ooh, can't wait to play this new game. Let me just make sure it runs." 00:09:46.886 --> 00:09:52.240 [laughter] >> I do that anyway, though. But I do it to like look through settings and adjust 00:09:50.560 --> 00:09:54.640 things to [music] the way I wanted to. But I also do that on 00:09:53.760 --> 00:09:58.720 >> That's not gaming. >> Well, yeah, but it's getting me ready to game. Or I can make it look prettier for 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:04.240 less performance. Or I can make it look worse for better performance. >> PlayStation has that. It's one button. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.440 >> Yeah. But I don't like the uh frame rate mode, performance mode or whatever. 00:10:06.560 --> 00:10:11.200 Yeah. Like it's >> You play games to admire the hardware 00:10:09.760 --> 00:10:14.320 you paid for. >> We admire the hardware we paid for. So 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:20.320 we cuz it plays games. >> That's only true for like major AAA titles. I'm playing Slay the Spire right 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:24.160 now. I play a ton of like garbage idol games. I play tons of stuff that's like 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:26.240 and a lot of those things aren't on console. You are right. they're only on 00:10:25.760 --> 00:10:33.600 Steam. >> The real divider is that consoles great at gaming. PCs are also good at gaming, 00:10:31.680 --> 00:10:36.640 but also do a bunch of other things. >> So, that's kind of the the crux. If you 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.839 want something that can do more than just game, then uh get it. But I also 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:44.160 just spent like 3 months trying to troubleshoot my PC and I thought, what 00:10:42.079 --> 00:10:47.040 if I just go to a laptop and get a PS5? I think that's the reason none of us 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:52.079 went to strongly on either side. >> Yeah, I think I >> I was almost neutral. >> I could be persuaded to the other side. 00:10:49.920 --> 00:10:56.560 Where do I actually lie? I own a computer. I have games on the computer. 00:10:54.079 --> 00:10:59.839 But console better. Console cheap. Console fast. Console cool. Console got 00:10:58.560 --> 00:11:04.320 FIFA every year. [laughter] >> Okay. Okay. Back to the middle. 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:07.680 >> I prefer frame rate over more resolution. 00:11:06.800 --> 00:11:12.880 >> You're not even waiting. >> So easy. Yeah. >> So easy. 00:11:11.040 --> 00:11:18.480 >> Getting to a baseline level of frame rate is important, but going over and 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:20.720 above is not necessarily. And it does depend a bit on the game that you're 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:24.959 playing. Like if you're playing a competitive game, Valerant, [music] 00:11:22.640 --> 00:11:28.720 Counterstrike, you want every single edge that you can get. But if you're 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:33.360 playing something more cinematic, you're playing a single player game, uh hitting 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:38.240 like 120 frames is enough. [music] I would rather play on a 1080p monitor at 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:42.240 a higher like 120 frame rate with all the eye candy turned on, as long as it's 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:45.760 like a 24 in display, [music] than I would 4K low. 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:51.920 >> Yes. >> Or medium or something. [music] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Resolution isn't just the answer. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:54.880 It's the resolution detail of the game you're playing or the the display 00:11:53.303 --> 00:11:58.480 [music] that you're playing it on and how far away from that display you are. 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:02.473 Like I think at the extremes things obviously change, but those are kind of 00:12:00.079 --> 00:12:08.720 extremes. And my argument is it's [music] just like would you rather let 00:12:06.079 --> 00:12:11.839 isn't to a guy who cuts in and [music] out constantly or would you rather him 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:17.120 just talk smooth? >> Wi-Fi is good enough now and we just 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:22.160 don't need a wire. [laughter] >> Yeah. No, there's no way. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:25.360 >> Wi-Fi is very good now, but >> it's excellent. The best Wi-Fi is no 00:12:24.160 --> 00:12:31.279 Wi-Fi. Get a wire. >> Yeah. >> When's the last time you went to a restaurant and they have those cellular 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:34.959 terminals and you're in the back corner and it's just like I got to hold it up 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:38.720 here so that I can get the signal. >> And to be clear, there are ways to 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:42.000 improve your Wi-Fi that you will find benefit if you can't run a wire, but you 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:47.440 should if you can. >> And Wi-Fi 6 or 7 is like amazing 00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:51.200 compared to old Wi-Fi. and that you can game on Wi-Fi these days. It is totally 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:55.440 doable. >> Ask any video editor if [laughter] they 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:58.240 would rather have Wi-Fi or a cable. Even at the same speed, it's always the 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:04.839 cable. >> Aim assist on controllers is functionally cheating in FPS games. 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:14.079 >> If everyone has the same advantage, is it cheating? 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:17.360 >> But they don't in some [music] PC games, right? Cuz if you're playing on a 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:20.000 controller on PC, you can enable aim assist. >> Yeah. And that's and that's bad. 00:13:19.760 --> 00:13:24.800 >> Yeah, >> I agree with that. I'm way better with a mouse than I am with the controller. 00:13:24.160 --> 00:13:29.040 >> Oh, sure. >> So, I think even those people who are playing that, sure, there might be the 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:34.160 odd occasion where they get a snap head shot on me, but I think most of the time 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:36.800 my mouse accuracy and response times is going to win over a controller with aim 00:13:36.139 --> 00:13:42.639 [music] assist. >> I don't know, man. There's some crazy good players on controller. 00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:47.279 >> I know. There's crazy good players on mouse and keyboard, too. Especially if the game is not programmed correctly, 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.959 like Arc Raiders, your aim assist was tied to frame rate. 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:54.000 >> Oh, yeah. >> So, if you just used a controller on PC, 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:57.760 it's just snapping to people's heads. >> We went through over 20 different questions while we were filming. And 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:03.199 obviously, not all of it can make it into the main cut. So, if you're interested in seeing the bonus 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:04.480 questions, head over to LMG.gg/flat 00:14:03.199 --> 00:14:08.560 to check it out. There's also some bloopers there as well. Every website 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:13.120 turning into a marketplace is good, actually. 00:14:09.760 --> 00:14:14.959 >> Dog, what? 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.959 I hate the commodification of everything. I hate that every single hobby that you have has to be monetized 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:24.480 now. I hate that there's no passion. There's no creation that's done for the sole purpose of just enjoying art. It's 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:28.880 not okay, man. We are sucking the passion. We are sucking the human aspect 00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:31.519 of creating art because everything has to be monetized. If you're playing 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:36.639 games, why aren't you playing them on Twitch? Why don't you start working 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:38.320 harder, slaving more? It sucks ass. And 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:42.320 the fact that I can't go anywhere on the internet without being advertised to, it 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:46.320 is the worst thing. And everyone is wasting their money on environmentally 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:52.880 destructive trash being shipped across the ocean. It sucks, man. It's awful. 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:56.079 I'm going I'm even more disagree. 00:14:52.880 --> 00:14:58.720 >> Why does a blog need uh a marketplace? 00:14:56.079 --> 00:15:02.320 Like every website, like why does every website need some kind of marketplace? 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:06.160 >> I mean, even the common retail sites like Best Buy and whatnot turned into 00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:09.920 marketplaces just made them worse. I'm just trying to speak the devil's 00:15:07.920 --> 00:15:14.240 advocate here. I think the reason this could be seen as someone who [music] 00:15:11.839 --> 00:15:16.880 would agree with this is now I only have to go to one place. 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:21.360 >> No, I don't. >> Well, I'm I'm trying to justify it as to 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:24.959 why this thought exists because I know people who are fine with just like, oh, 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:29.279 I can just go to Walmart and order everything cuz it's just all can be shipped online or I can go to [music] 00:15:27.760 --> 00:15:32.639 one site. If we're narrowing it down from the over like hyper capitalization 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:37.519 of the internet to just talking about like switching a store into a marketplace, I'm still I still hate it 00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:41.279 against it because because the whole point of your store existing is to 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:44.000 curate the for me. But now everything has the same stupid stuff and 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:51.720 it all sucks. >> Adam, it's it's okay. >> No, it's not. 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:51.720 >> Piracy is totally justified sometimes. 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:59.600 >> Love Island isn't worth $15 a month. [laughter] 00:15:58.079 --> 00:16:03.120 Listen, I'm not going to stand here and pretend that I've never ever pirated 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:06.399 anything in my life, [music] but I think what shows that you don't want to 00:16:04.800 --> 00:16:13.759 support something more is just to show no interest in the thing. >> See, I agree with you mostly except for 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:16.959 dead media where it is still technically under copyright, but there is no legal 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:20.800 way of obtaining it. >> And that is why I am here. I would have 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:24.720 gone all the way if there was a guaranteed way of dead media. But we are 00:16:22.800 --> 00:16:28.560 losing media and that's where I think pirating might be the one edge case 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:32.720 where I would be willing to break my line. >> This lane is for >> No, it's this that No, cuz that's one 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:37.279 edge case. No, >> but he said sometimes. >> Yeah, he said sometimes. Also, theft is 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:40.800 justified sometimes, too. >> Yeah, fine then. No, I'll stand your 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:45.519 ground. Oh, fine. I'll stand on my ground. >> It's theft. Why are we letting middlemen 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:51.920 get in between us and the things that we enjoy? Okay. I fully support uh bands 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:54.639 and smaller artists who are new. I buy 00:16:51.920 --> 00:16:59.920 music off Band Camp. I buy records. But when it comes to like movies and shows, 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:03.120 corporations are incredibly wealthy because they are ripping all of us off. 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:07.839 And [music] that's where I totally think theft is justified. >> I fully see everything you guys are 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:12.720 stating. I guess my one question [music] back then is how is it supporting 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:16.799 someone more if you're stealing the content versus either paying for it or 00:17:15.360 --> 00:17:21.919 just not watching it anyways because then they're not getting money anyways, right? >> If they're big enough that I can steal 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:25.039 it from a web like [music] from a big player like a corporation, then like 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:29.679 they're fine. >> That's probably why I didn't go all the way to strongly disagree. There is that 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:35.039 small amount of times where I agree it's justified, but I think you need to pay 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:39.000 for the art. Subscriptions can be better than buying something outright. 00:17:39.520 --> 00:17:45.919 >> I'm trying to think if there is a single subscription that I think is better. No, 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:51.679 I don't think there is. >> Oh, wow. I was going to say I feel like I've taken a pretty strong stance 00:17:49.840 --> 00:17:55.520 against subscription models and stuff here. >> Sometimes you need one thing one time 00:17:54.080 --> 00:17:58.720 and a subscription is a very cheap way to get it. You see, you sign up, cancel 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.080 it. Like, you know what I'm going to do when Fortza Horizon comes out? Pass. I'm 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:05.039 going to play Game Pass for like 2 months and then I'm going to cancel it. 00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:09.679 >> A lot of the instances you brought up, Adam, can be used by [music] 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:13.600 um open source uh software that you'll struggle with for a day and the struggle 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:16.799 will suck, but you can do it for free. I also hate Game Pass. I think that it's a 00:18:15.360 --> 00:18:20.320 great [music] thing for a lot of people to get cheap games, but one, I think 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:24.880 it's terrible for the industry. Yes. >> I also think that [music] it sucks to 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.360 not own things permanently. >> You don't own it anyways though with 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:31.520 digital. >> Sure, I do. So, I'll put my computer in offline mode on Steam after it's 00:18:30.320 --> 00:18:35.600 downloaded and I have that for the rest of my life. >> Depends. [music] Depends on the game cuz 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:40.062 >> almost every game, but that's you're talking now about always online games, 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:42.799 which I'm against to be clear. And [music] does that have to be a 00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:45.919 subscription? No, that's a different thing. >> Yeah, I dislike the subscription model, 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:50.240 but sometimes [music] having a subscription available can be better for me. 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:54.120 >> Adlock contributed to making the internet worse. 00:19:06.320 --> 00:19:10.960 Thank god I'm not the only one. Ads invaded me first. Okay, I'm just 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:15.440 retaliating. >> I'm not even like saying that ad blockers don't protect people because 00:19:14.123 --> 00:19:20.400 [music] people can be malicious with ads, whether it's a redirect or something. The only reason that YouTube 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:23.280 is trying even harder to crack down on it, in my opinion, is because so many 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:28.880 people are trying to circumvent it without paying for their service. I think that YouTube probably would have 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:32.400 calmed down a little bit on the amount of ads they were pushing or how 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:37.760 aggressive they're going against ad blockers if a lot of people didn't use them. I disagree because I think [music] 00:19:35.760 --> 00:19:40.799 that the fro they're boiling the frog and you can either decide to try your 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:44.400 best to hop out or just let them boil you. They were going to crank up the ads 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:47.520 anyways. Profit margins are always being looked at. They're always trying to 00:19:45.520 --> 00:19:51.280 extract more. The reason why ad blockers popped up was because [music] 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:54.480 ads got crap in advance, right? There was a long time where ad blocking was 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:57.200 not common, but it became the like one of the selling features of Chrome 00:19:55.840 --> 00:20:04.320 because of extensions. >> Yep. >> And if Google if Google is willing to de 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:06.480 the ad the ad guys, Google was willing 00:20:04.320 --> 00:20:10.799 to bank their entire browser on its extension capabilities early on and 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.720 allow ad blocking. [music] Clearly, they were still making money. They weren't 00:20:12.080 --> 00:20:17.520 really afraid. >> I'm only here because of the contributed part of that [music] sentence. 00:20:17.760 --> 00:20:22.600 contribute to some kind of essent 00:20:27.484 --> 00:20:29.504 [music] 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:43.320 contributes to making the internet better for me. >> If I'm being honest, AI has at least one 00:20:38.159 --> 00:20:43.320 killer app that uh I love. 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:56.000 Wow, this is going to take a lot of people off, but I use an app to help go 00:20:53.120 --> 00:21:00.000 through my very long 16-hour Twitch live streams and find [music] the key moments 00:20:58.159 --> 00:21:04.400 that are amazing that I can then turn into short form content. Just being able 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:07.760 to throw the entire VOD into this thing that just goes, "Hey, here's 30 moments 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:14.240 that you're going to want to clip and make." It saves me so much time and I paid a lot of money for that stupid app. 00:21:11.600 --> 00:21:18.000 Yeah. Yeah, I mean I use a an AI for editing podcasts to help find like it 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:22.400 automatically selects breaks and [music] also will detect like false starts or 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:25.360 ums and a's and like help highlight those to cut those out a lot easier. Or 00:21:24.159 --> 00:21:28.960 like if I'm reviewing a product sometimes I'm like I have so many thoughts about this I don't know how to 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:31.840 like structure them. I just want to get these all out and I don't want to have 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:35.039 to deal with the slowness of trying to format it on the keyboard, right? Cuz my 00:21:33.520 --> 00:21:39.919 brain's [music] running faster than my hands can do it. I will like spew stuff 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:43.120 into like Gemini and then it will like kind of [music] give it back to me 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:46.240 slight in an organized manner using it as a tool that way because then that 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:49.760 helps me go like okay here's my thoughts let's d take what these notes are dive 00:21:48.159 --> 00:21:55.039 into the script and make something good. I mean, what I've used it for a bunch in 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:57.120 the past um has been taking large data 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:01.600 sets and parsing through data sets to try and find trends and be able to 00:21:59.840 --> 00:22:05.679 interact with it on a more natural language level, too, instead of having 00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:10.159 to try and program something that could do the same thing. It's just easier to 00:22:08.320 --> 00:22:13.679 dump it all in one place and then ask the question. >> Are you over there just because you 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:18.400 don't have an app that you use? >> The only thing that comes close is probably Otter and that could literally 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:21.600 just be a recording software. It doesn't need the I don't need the transcription. 00:22:19.919 --> 00:22:25.360 I literally just need a recording software that I can It doesn't need AI. 00:22:23.280 --> 00:22:28.880 >> Transcriptions are super nice when you get those after meetings, though, 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:32.080 because then you can control F and find specific words in a spot quickly. 00:22:31.935 --> 00:22:37.919 [clears throat] >> I've never needed to use AI for anything. I don't use it in my workflows 00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:41.039 in any single way. I'm also just very anti-AII, so I don't go looking for 00:22:39.520 --> 00:22:46.080 these things. Ladies and gentlemen, the based Nicholas PL. 00:22:43.600 --> 00:22:49.280 >> I like to support I guess good or proper integrations of AI cuz I think that's 00:22:47.600 --> 00:22:52.799 the ones we need to support so we don't get too much ination. 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:57.039 >> Yeah, but are any of them good or just when they were all built off of garbage? 00:22:55.039 --> 00:23:00.159 >> And and that's an amazing question that we're not going to be able to answer in 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:04.720 one sitting here today. You know what isn't made of garbage though? >> The segue 00:23:02.159 --> 00:23:08.880 >> to our sponsor, Acuity Scheduling. If you're running a business or any type of 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:12.960 event, staying on task and being at the right place at the correct time is not 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:16.480 as easy as it seems. 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