it's no surprise that the most popular controllers are first-party ones
especially the modern Xbox controller and that makes a lot of sense it's a
premium controller with a comfortable shape and it just works with all your
modern PC games and even with other consoles like the Nintendo switch if you
get the right dongle but what is a surprise is that in the dumpster fire of
Cheaper alternative controllers are some downright excellent options with some of
them going for less than $30 so we answered the title's question
already it's this because it's good but
what we haven't answered is what you should be buying and that is a bit more
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before we get to our Alternatives have you ever wondered why pretty much every
modern PC controller shares that same familiar Xbox layout it turns out it's
for some good reasons one being it's pretty ergonomic especially compared to
some of its ancestors but the bigger one is xinput the xinput API will
automatically bind compatible controllers to the right in inputs in
your favorite games and while it's less versatile than the older D input
standard which is still used especially for complex flight and racing rigs its
limitations because of the standard Xbox layout allow it to be much more easily
implemented strangely enough the second best-selling controller is the only D
input controller that we're going to see today the ps5s Dual sense can it still
be used for PC games short answer yes
long answer yeah yes but it depends on
how much tinkering you want to do four out of the five games that we tested
needed some kind of manual remapping now there are wrappers like steam input or
DS for Windows that will wrap the D input in an xinput container that should
fix these issues and in games where the developers build in Native support for
the Dual Senses extra features it is one of our favorite controllers especially
in games that heavily make use of the d-pad we're going to have it and every
controller we recommended from this video linked down below but enough about
controllers that cost almost a 100 loonies I said that there are great
controllers you guys are buying for $30 or less and this next one is not one of
them the Logitech f310 has remained
mostly unchanged since its release
in 2010 making it probably our best fit for
the title here because honestly guys why is every everyone still buying this
controller it looks like a little brother Edition for the PS2 and honestly
it feels like one too I mean is this really the best that Logitech can come
up with I mean it's apparently kept at least 25,000 of you reasonably happy but
look at the way the d-pad Jiggles and no
they like that they love it I mean I guess if that's what you're
used to there's also the wireless variant the f710 which is also pretty
fine if you like your controllers to feel like a Brick In fairness The Price
is Right at just 20 and $40 respectively
and logitech's established reputation for warranty service sets them apart
from many other competitors in this price class I mean only the best will do
for billionaires who need to visit the Titanic of course while we're combing
The Depths it's probably worth seeing if we can find something a little better oh
here's a more recent top performer the 8bit do ultimate C has been sitting
among Amazon's best sellers pretty consistently for months and is racking
up four and a half star reviews at an incredible rate its MSRP is $30 with
frequent discounts down to just 20 bucks and that is with a 2.4 GHz wireless
dongle I mean that puts this whole package under the price of a Microsoft
first-party dongle alone so it must be
trash right I mean yeah Bo dude
everything about it feels pretty good the shape is very similar to a regular
Xbox controller I mean the d-pads nothing special but the face buttons
feel really good even the triggers have a pretty satisfying feel to them and it
has an integrated battery for that price that's something to consider guys
Microsoft does include batteries with their controller but they're disposables
not rechargeables and this has USBC charging with an integrated battery
right out of the box I'm not saying it's the right choice for from a
sustainability standpoint I'm just saying it is a value ad and wait what's
this I'm getting reports of a brand new just released 8bit do ultimate 2C it
comes in new multi-tone colorways and no way two extra shoulder buttons 1,000 HZ
pulling rate and hall effect analog triggers and sticks meaning they should
remain Snappy and precise long into the future guys this is a big upgrade so uh
how much more is it going to cost it's the same
price same price so wait why would I
even buy that one the previous generation 8-bit do controller that had
Hall effects was twice the price of the regular one and the only other benefits
are Bluetooth and a charging dock they kind of thought of everything the edges
are more round and comfortable in the hand especially at the edge of the
shoulder and Trigger buttons the grip texture is less abrasive and feels a
little less likely to collect a detailed his hisory of every skin cell that ever
rubbed against it and while this spot where the face meets the textured back
is a little bit on the sharp side that's not a part of the controller that you
would ever naturally interact with the d-pad still not a star player but darn
it they did put in some work to make it feel more tactile and even the face
buttons feel just I don't know 8% more
tactile oh the bumpers are clicky now
dude I really like this thing it's even clicker than the regular Xbox controller
which I may be bad or good depending on your preference but I like it of course
I haven't actually played a game yet how does it stack up for actual
gaming whoops oh how does the controller feel oh right
the controller controller feels good brother
really like the thumb sticks like the thumb sticks a lot very little dead zone
I can't blame the thumbsticks for everything that's happening right now this is just hard
do you want to try same game with the Logitech huh oh you want me to try the
other controllers that makes sense can't say I'm thrilled about it but uh yeah
give me a sec dude I'm still not that stoked on the uh on the
face buttons okay that's good to know they're a little slow cuz in terms of
input latency the 2C with the receiver
was the lowest of everything we tested it's less the input latency and it's
more how far they are to mash I just
find that I I'm having a little bit of more
difficulty with them of course this the only it's only the first one that I've
looked at so maybe just side by
side come on okay wait wait no we you've
tried this a 100 times with this one let's try the other controller all right maybe another controller is the
answer oh my God this analog
stick wow controller design has really come a long way in the last 14 years
years um maybe we just go d-pad here yeah test
what the people say I me realistically I'm not doing any
worse I think the cold hard truth is I'm just not that good at Super Meat Boy you
might have a little extra trouble with this one this controller actually has
the highest tested input latency nothing is too unusable this is 23.5
milliseconds so it's still within the realm of that's okay yeah um but that's
more than four times more than the
2C come on come on come on come on oh no way no way is the answer the Logitech
controller maybe it's the repetition of doing it 100 times oh what are you doing
what are you doing occasionally things will register
a little funny but no big complaints
it's oh it's really heavy actually it's really heavy does it use dou battery
yeah yeah okay let's try a different game okay try a different game while I
wait to fire up a racing game I can talk Comfort I do find the slightly more
angled shape of the Xbox controller a little bit more comfortable for broader
adult shoulders but if you like to kind of have your elbows tucked in I can see
how this would actually be more comfortable for you everyone I talked to
was really impressed at the build quality of this but people with big hands definitely find the Xbox
controller more comfortable for I think the exact same reason you were saying the angle and they feel the same way
about the 40 oz water bottle at LT store.com it's just wider for bigger
hands than the 21 Oz you're 64 o yeah
yeah okay now let's have a look at these
triggers said drifty oo very small dead
zones on the sticks do like isn't nice
you're quite sensitive to dead zones hey I hate dead zones what's the point of
moving a stick if it's not registered sir would you like a dead zone on your
mouse no well then why do you accept it on your stick the thing is in racing
games a lot of the times you don't want to over steer and having a big dead zone
can cause you to over steer and then over steer the other way and then over steer the other way any deficiency in my
performance here is 100% down to me not being very good at racing games I cannot
blame the controller here like this control is extremely fine go go on go on
get woo oh shoot I screwed it up I
screwed it up right at the end how could I do this to
myself whatever I Podium you want to try briefly with the
Xbox one yeah yeah yeah yeah let's hook up the Xbox controller long story short
we had an issue pairing with our dongle which normally is totally fine so I
don't know exactly what happened here but I have a cable how do the sticks
feel in this not as good they're sloppier triggers I honestly don't
notice a huge difference with I've never been that sensitive to them but the
dicks on the Xbox controller they're not terrible but they're not as good in my
humble observation we did test uh some
of the controllers for the circularity of their analog sticks and the series
one was actually one of the worst ones only the Logitech 310 was less circular
but the Labs didn't have a high degree of confidence cuz it might have just been that specific Xbox controller they
tested question for you how many controllers does 8 bit do support off of
a single dongle though I've never checked I think it's just one you can't repair
them I don't believe oh just one
controller to a dongle that's a bit of a drawback especially when you consider
that the Xbox dongle supports up to eight controllers off of a single dongle
and has some extra quality of life features not to mention usually
excellent pairing reliability though it should be noted that there is a latency
cost there we actually found that the 8bit do 2C had the same latency on
Bluetooth as the Xbox controller with its 2.4 GHz dongle and partially thanks
to its 1000 HZ pulling rate absolutely obliterated the Xbox in a like for like
test enough about the 2C though let's switch back to the 1C and see if the 2C
is worth the extra $10 cuz so often this can be had for just 20 bucks I'll be
honest with you it feels pretty good I don't notice a big difference I'd say
it's possible the sticks are a little bit looser but if they are it's not by
much and the biggest difference for me that would make me still go with the 2C
is the fact that it has bluetooth support it's just so convenient to not
have to worry about dongles dang what an impressive controller but not everyone's
going to feel the same way if you've got much larger hands or if you have an Xbox
and you want to move your controller between that and your PC wirelessly and seamlessly you might end up with a
different option but I find this just a great balance of quality feeling d-pad
quality face buttons great ergonomics I have a hard time imagining anyone who
would hate this and realistically I could say the same about pretty much
everything in front of me except for the f710 if you're looking at one of these
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