okay we're live welcome to the lonus tech tips live
stream featuring the one the
only um you me what is your name slick
yeah yeah that that this guy on Twitter or actually it looks like I could be
pointing anywhere I have a really really weird birth certificate really slick
PC no you don't so we've got a lot of great topics
for you guys tonight and uh knock on there should be no technical
difficulties because we I think have
finally pretty much sorted out our entire streaming setup including our
microphone we're actually finally using our high-end camera can we can we knock
on like every piece of wood in existence before the stream just just crashes
randomly because of something out of our control yeah actually you know figur
everything out last week last week was a little bit rough because uh the issues
were actually caused by um my internet just deciding that it
hated its life and uh that it didn't want to help us stream to you guys
anymore so that was super disappointing are you going to be running on battery
throughout the entire live stream there yep oh that's not going to
work turn the mic down turn the mic down
turn the mic down this is the first time anyone's ever said that yeah but
apparently we're clipping a okay we finally figured everything out
and the live stream's perfect
nope okay talk talk uh hello how's the
audio guys how's everything working is it good is it bad everyone's saying no I
don't know what no means mic is good mic's good it's
fine it's good audio is good volume volume apparently the volume was really
good we're getting conflicting answers
here okay don't to turn it down too
quiet too quiet turn it back
up can you turn it like a little can you turn it a little bit back up not really
not really oh I had it at but it was like it's almost back to where it was
okay okay well at any rate we don't have to talk that loud so
uh here we go so what should we start with today we have our hands on a Galaxy
S4 which is pretty exciting um for those
of you who don't know the Galaxy S4 is Apple's first 4A in to the Android
Marketplace so uh previously Apple was
really on sort of a a locked down Hardware software marriage type of
configuration where they really didn't believe in using open- Source software
like Android but they have done a complete reversal Steve Jobs has risen
from the dead and come back to lead the company into the Bright Horizon that is
Android I was just seeing if you were paying attention because I'm pretty sure
it took you a while to figure out what I was talking it did because I've got other stuff to deal
with so what we're actually going to be talking about is first impressions of
the S4 so I I I don't think have you spent much time with it handson none
okay so uh for those of you who haven't seen it already there's a video on the
Linus Tech tips Channel where um I was at my briefing on the S4 with Samsung
where they showed me the ins and outs and the device and there were some
things that I thought were um somewhat trivial that ended up being a far bigger
deal once I had it explained to me correctly and it's not just like explain
to me correctly like hey lonus uh where's your back pocket I got a $100
bill here I'm just going to slip that in there and give you a little p no it wasn't like that it was um hey lonus you
know that feature where the screen works even if you don't quite touch it well
what about what about this Mr Canadian over there what about when you're
wearing gloves and I'm like
oh right because when I first heard about that feature where you can control
the touch screen without actually quite touching it I was like oh who needs that
right but then all of a sudden like oh that's right so now you can actually
interface with the device even when you don't have your your hands well I mean
you'll still need hands that would probably be a good thing mind you you
were telling me about that gamer who plays without hands yeah um oh should we
transition to that now or should no no don't worry we'll we'll make it back to S4 it's on my it's on my list I'm going
to grab the S4 while you talk J into the Diablo thing no no no we'll talk about
that later so we're just going to talk about him I think his name is look no
hands although it could be some other variation of that you just hit your head
on a light that's kind of funny but no one saw it um but he his hands are
messed up so what he does is he presses the controller against his face to
control the game and he plays Call of Duty and stuff and it's actually pretty
awesome he's got videos on YouTube and stuff chead doe it's actually really cool and he's he's actually Legit by the
look of he pretty good too which is crazy I mean he's not like good like 10
to1 kill to death ratio but he's good like to one he's good to the point where
you wouldn't like if you didn't see his name you'd have no idea that he didn't
have hands which is kind of insane so I
got my hands speaking of hands I got my hands on one of those Intel uh beanies
they call them here in Canada we call them Tes show your face mask thing but
the um the way it fits is a little funny it almost looks like cuz if you fold it
up the um you don't really see you don't
really see the graphic and then if you don't fold it up then it actually ends
up covering your whole face so the cravy Russian suggested to me that this is
probably the best way to wear it how do I look it's fantastic it look like a
really really crappy version of ghost sweet and do the skull's off the skull's
off where uh turn it to the to the right
to the right your right or my right your right how's that that's a little bit
better but now the mouth is a little bit off also do the bottom a little bit
there you go we good okay how how will
you give me 10 bucks if I do the rest of the live stream like this if you do the
entire rest of the live stream like this 10 bucks see I would say yes but that
would get really old and I think people would like it a while not not only that
but I can't read and I can't see like I actually can't see through this thing so
anyway guys if you didn't uh if you didn't hear about it before inel was
giving away beanies if you uh got a 3570k or a 3770k or whatever
one of the uh twitch chat members would just like to inform you that it's an
improvement on your look oh thank you thank
you thanks for that um anyway so back to
the S4 so okay right so I was more impressed
than I was expecting to be now one of the things that pictures really um
didn't convey well was the build of the device give me your S3 for a
sec you have it on you right yep who
almost dropped it so the S3 feels like honestly weightwise they're probably
very similar they haven't gone the the iPhone 5 route where Apple basically
went yep we're going to make our phone weigh almost nothing and it's going to feel like space age in your hand because
you're like whoa oh oh it doesn't weigh anything um the the S4 weighs about the
same as the S3 just sort of holding them but what it it it feels a little bit
more solid um I think part of it for me
anyway is the fact that the sides are more Square I know you guys aren't going
to be able to see this perfectly by any stretch of the the imagination but the
S3 is very curved whereas the S4 has more of a flat side and what I find is
that for me personally I'm able to I'm able to hold it more naturally without
it without it slipping past me this is one of the things I like about the HTC1
where it has kind of a a bit of a an
edge on it so you're less likely to drop it for me it's more natural to hold a
device that has flat sides so the the
ergonomic changes although it's not really apparent in pictures do make a
difference and it just feels a little bit more more solid than U than what
we've seen in the past from from Samsung and I'm including my experience with the
S1 and the S2 and the S3 right um
another cool thing is of course you've got the swappable back plates which is
something the HTC1 can't do which gives you that micro SD expansion the
removable battery as well as uh the the
option to change your back plate so something like an HTC1 they're taking a
very apple- likee approach where HTC1
will look the same except silver or black the battery's really Beast though
one of the main things that I like about removable back plates is you can pretty much with every single removable back
plate you can change your battery yes um and that's helpful in case your battery
borks or just sucks but the HTC 1's battery just seems it seems to be just
kind of awesome like what was that you played music for how long yeah for um
like 6 hours that day and then I had like 35% left at the end of the day
which is just kind of like on speakers which is sort of ridiculous and pretty loud yeah like it was easy to find him
because I could just follow the music like okay um so anyway it feels more
solid also they have removable backs that are going to integrate wireless
charging uh which takes about three times longer than non-wireless charging
but from a convenience standpoint honestly if it wasn't so expensive it's
the kind of thing I'd look at and i' go yeah I'll buy like three of them and
then just leave like one on my work desk one on my nightstand
and when in the car I don't know like
somewhere where you basically just put your phone down don't think about it and
then it's charging which is very cool um honestly it's kind of criminal what
they're doing with the accessories as far as the front covers go there's one
that has a window which is neat because it uses magnets to know that that's the
front cover you have on and when you look at your phone you can check
notifications just through the window and because it's an Amed screen it
doesn't have to light up the whole thing so it just lights up that one little bit and conserves your battery but they want
an extra 20 bucks for the window version and I'm like really $20 plastic window
they're just like okay I thought it was just a cutout
I didn't even realize it was a plastic window oh no there's a plastic window so it's like the premium like cutout option
but um s translate actually works yeah
which I was floored by um I was expecting it to be one of those like
diesel uses it from time to time yep it works phenomenally well I did a couple
test runs I don't speak French particularly well but I can read
rudimentary French pretty well like
enough to know oh yeah that's what it says worked 100% with a couple test
phras phes that I did with it um the the new uh ey tracking scroll the page thing
uh does it actually work really well you know what it's the kind of thing where I
kind of looked at it I'm like oh yeah this works because what it does is it locks onto your eyes and then you tilt
your head like this to scroll the page
so it's the kind of thing where it takes probably about two and a half seconds to
lock on and then if you kind of go like
this your page is going to start going woo until it until it disengages it's
the kind of thing where I'm like oh yeah works but would I use
it no probably not what else did I want to
talk about yeah smart scrolling that's one ah yes so the other one that was
kind of like controlling it without touching the screen where I looked at it and went really does this matter was the
uh the motion gestures and I didn't
obviously think about it enough but it has a motion sensor in the front which means instead of relying entirely on the
front camera which would be a huge battery hog you can gesture at the
camera say for example if you're in a meeting you can turn on a gesture where
you put your hand over it and you kind of use the force and it comes up with a
little thing that tells you if you have any Mis calls or mis messages or whatever else um so being I mean obv
okay there's there's other gestures like you can go like this to change the track
in your um actually no no this was a good one I was about to make fun of this
one but this one's good so if you're driving you put it in a cradle on your
dash and you go like this to change the song to the next track that's cool and
I'm just like oh okay that's kind of nice yeah and there's one to answer a
call so it's it's one of those things where I look at and go okay it's
actually illegal to touch the device at least where we live so now you don't
have to touch it now you don't have to touch it just kind of go in front of
it it's like no officer I was just waving at my phone I I I talk with my
hands yes whenever I talk and I was talking to myself so I had to wave in
front of my phone do you remember that uh do you remember that driver that we
saw today there was this woman driving yeah
that was bizarre what was she doing again I don't remember I don't know what she was doing but she was driving your
car and it's like one hand I think on the wheel like at the bottom of the
wheel and their other arms like up like this yeah and I'm like what so it kind
of looked like she was either sort of conducting the music she was listening
to on the radio or really getting into like an animated aggressive conversation
cuz she was kind of like on like a Bluetooth thing or something I was like
what are you doing you're TR you're in a motor vehicle lady like this 10 and two
man just make it happen um okay well
what else did I oh yeah okay so uh TouchWiz is cool because it it gets me
away from having to use third party apps for I mean I think probably the big one
that everyone really really likes is the quick access to all your on and offs and
like the third party apps are cool I'm using power toggles on my HTC1 right now
and you've got a bunch of options and you can have up to eight icons across the top but this one's kind of neat
because it doesn't only control all of the standard options like Bluetooth GPS
Wi-Fi but also things like S Beam uh Smart Stay um Smart Scroll like the ey
scrolling and then Smart Stay is the one where it uh it doesn't uh it doesn't dim
the display if you're still looking at it all that kind of stuff so you can turn all that on and off at will they
also include little tutorials which I thought was cool for all of the Samsung
exclusive features did you I just saw something sorry give me a sec guys pull
down oh you had a huge bar of options
what options yeah righty here press that thing that's cool yeah so anyway so yeah
there's a huge all the options that you could possibly want there there's a
button on the top right and you can drop down all the options so with with my S3
and a whole bunch of other phones currently um you have to get another app
if you want to do stuff like that yeah so that's cool it comes by default other whole nox thing bring your device to
work is fully supported on this one I believe there was something that was S4
exclusive all my notes from the meeting or upstairs but uh guys expect me to do
some videos on the S4 over the next little bit I'm going to an ASUS event
next week we've got some really exciting projects we're working on for Tech
quickie right now that are taking up a lot of our time um oh man the one for
the if you guys are following on Twitter you probably saw pictures of like this
Frankenstein Funk ms3 Mouse can I I
think it's on the counter right there yeah you want to run and grab it cuz it's like actually kind of
awesome um so so we we're working on a cool thing
where the funk ms3 Mouse is uh we're doing like the making of the funk ms3
and it's going to be kind of a obviously a parody because um no one at Linus
Media Group is actually on the funk staff and responsible for making this
mouse but uh it's the first time we've ever actually brought in outside actors
to come in and play roles in our videos and it's going to be super
professionally done so that's uh that's really really exciting so Miner on the
Fly repairs um she's she's falling apart a
little bit just hold it up and I'll have
a want to bring a little it doesn't Zoom that much
yeah oh too close Less
close okay do you want to take them on a little tour through the mouse make sure
you speak up because the mic's behind you all right so I added a bunch of key
caps here just random things can you even see that very well it's okay I got
it I got it just random things I thought might be entirely not useful on a mouse
um so so I pried these off a keyboard and just kind of stuck them to it you
can see it's literally just two-sided tape that's why I said I just had to do
some minor repairs some of them had completely fallen off and some were kind
of we off by a little bit oh that fell off completely um I stuck a few random
capacitors on top of this on the right side of the click and then this had a
little circuit board that had a cable running back to the mouse wheel which is
kind of zombified on the back as well as there's another cable running along here
and then lonus and I shoved just a whole bunch more keys on this side so there's
more thumb Keys here more thumb Keys here and then this one at the bottom is
actually stock and we added another key right here so there's actually a ton of
zombification on this I wish this right here was still there because that was
actually really cool there's a little circuit board that ran a cable into the back here and it looked quite cool I'm
not sure where that went but we were just using double-sided tape for
everything so it kind of fell off yeah there's our there's our custom
lus Tech tips Edition Funk Mouse so have
a seat I can't fix the focus until you're there take from that what you
will um is there anything else we can even say about that project
um other than the video should be awesome yeah the uh the video will be
awesome I uh I was pretty amused that I had a couple people on Twitter that seem
to think that the mouse was real yeah and we're actually giving their feedback
on it as a product like oh you know I don't know if I'd use that or oh man I'd
totally buy that no no that's not an actual product it was just it was just a
joke I told you you made it too real
looking yeah cuz I told him to make it stupid and he actually put like a bunch
of stuff that was actually looked like it could possibly be useful like I was
like really but it looks good I know it
looks good enough that people thought that it was an actual product so that
should be that should be all you need to know at this point um we are going to
move the live stream yeah yeah yeah so
the Friday the Friday night time slot this will be the last one we are moving
the live stream to um our Monday
afternoons probably at around 4:00 so
the rationale for this is that it'll be
um it'll be nighttime in Europe it will
be um kind of like evening in eastern
North America and it will be I believe
what morning in Australia and that is where most of our
viewers come from um I mean look I'm so
okay for all of those of you who are not in those areas I am incredibly sorry uh
but the numbers are the numbers and we do see the numbers and so we have to go
with a time slot that a works best for the majority of the viewers and B Works
a little better for us because honestly at the end of the week it's pretty tough
to do these Friday night uh late night live streams and I'm sure he's getting
as the look on his face he's getting destroyed in the twitch chat right now
I'm sorry guys there's nothing we can do
about it to be perfectly honest I mean it's um my wife's going back to work
she's been on maternity leave with the baby so I can't do them on Fridays
anymore actually like period cannot and evenings don't really work anymore
so yeah
yeah I'm sorry guys there's a lot of people upset in twitch chat I know I
know and I totally understand uh um but
I mean I always said this time slot was temporary and that it was going to be
moved from like the very first or second one um and it lasted a long time but we
will have to move it but we will still be uploading the archives to YouTube
speaking of YouTube we are now activated as a twitch YouTube networked partner so
it finally went through and that's done so apparently that's
actually like because before sorry just
completely jumping away from what you were just talking about um live stream
timing on Australia is like not so good on Monday or I guess that would be
Tuesday morning right when people go to school and work because right now it
makes it Saturday morning for them
right anyways it's not like we really have a choice I mean yeah we actually
don't have a choice at this point if we could do it on a Friday that would have
been better but the problem is that um you know Slick's love life has really
started to take off and all the ladies that watch our show
have been lining up to get a date with him so if you want his Plenty of Fish
profile now people are going to go on a wild man hunt for some Plenty of Fish
yeah and they're totally going to find it I'm sorry dude I don't have one
yeah that's what he says you're really bad at winking huh that was terrible
you're really bad at
winking we can't all be talented at everything oh oh man I have other
talents that make up for it you wouldn't understand I'll tell you about it when
you're
older oh God that's horrible yeah I'm
sorry um so NVIDIA is going to be giving away Metro last Light with GTX 660 and
up the arms race of free video games
with graphics cards is just getting pretty heated and isn't it about time
yeah I mean how long was it that we were getting like John Woo strangle hold and
like some like racing game that no one cares about I'm like come on you guys
where are the AAA titles it was it was more back then it was more like what
game isn't going to sell so we don't have to worry about these people not actually buying it anyways so we can
give it to them for free and it won't reduce our sales and it won't actually
matter because no one will actually care and I'm tired of that mentality this is
great rewarding people for buying the hardware by giving them something to
actually play with that said I mean NVIDIA's usual MO is sort of one game
bundle every quarter or so um and as much as Metro last Light is
going to be a huge title it's going to be a really big deal I don't it I don't
really see it as that much of a response to AMD's never settle strategy it's
still a little bit more aggressive than some things they've done in the past Assassin's Creed was kind of huge y
so Batman Arkham Asylum Borderlands 2
they've actually been on not a bad run they've been ramping up of AAA titles y
but then AMD's like yeah like nine times
a like we'll give you three AAA titles
don't worry about it and then they're like oh yeah you bought some stuff before don't worry about blood dragon
it's cool blood dragon here you go like what so I I mean AMD has just been
crushing it when it's come to free games uh speaking of AMD our 7990 should be in
transit in theory so hopefully we're
going to have some videos for you guys at launch of $79.90 uh which should be
part of the current never settle which I think includes is it BioShock Infinite right
now and something can't remember anymore
but uh but anyway there you go so Metro last Light is going and that's cool so
I'm going to go adjust that camera again because it sort of is funny you're kind
of there and I'm kind of here and then there's like woo lots of space over here
so I want to intr find one of your cool topics that you uh supposedly
contributed to how do I even I don't have control of this oh yeah where's the
thing I always here of course it's on here whatever uh this keyboard's so
small tiny baby hands that's an inside
joke people won't understand for a while
um judge V vet I'm not sure how to
pronounce this uh judge something held himself in contempt and paid $25 for his
infraction so basically what happened was he had a new smartphone and it
started shouting out voice commands while he was holding Court and instead
of being like Oh yeah it doesn't matter I'm the judge doesn't matter I can like
I can screw other people over for that but nope it's fine he held himself in
contempt and charged himself 25 bucks that's awesome while that shouldn't be
an anomaly and that should actually just kind of be what happens all the time you
can you can correct yourself it's fine I'm leaning over so it'll help a little bit yeah thank you
um it it doesn't always kind of happen that way people don't always kind of
hold themselves at fault if they actually do something wrong there's a good chance I wouldn't even think of it
if I was if I was that guy like I I'd
just be like oh crap my phone oh oops ploop Yeah put it away but nope held
himself in contempt paid up 25 bucks I
think it's pretty cool it's actually really cool and like the internet's in
love with him he probably gained a a huge amount of respect that's worth
way more than $25 yeah more than 25 bucks I mean and you like you contrast
this with the uh millions and millions of dollars that have made their way to
somewhere to get sispa pushed through
and just kind of looking at it going like oh you know you got to I mean it
seems like there's so few people in power who actually try to play by their
own rules that you just have to kind of whenever one person does it it's like oh
cool oh that doesn't happen it's like an odity which it it shouldn't be but but
it just kind of is but it just kind of is so that's both awesome and depressing
ing today um all right what you got what
else you got should we do some Twitter Q&A yeah we should do we're half an hour
in we've done zero Twitter Q&A I'm sorry you guys should we take um ah no talk
about it later hey this leads into the topic that you have okay we will talk
about PS in a bit um yeah there's
apparent you know what let's talk about it now okay so much for Twitter Q&A so
Pack's Prime sells out fast what was it 20 minutes the P Prime pass 4day tickets
sold out in about I don't know I don't think anyone actually knows the actual
time because of just how Zur rushed it got the tweet from um from PAX Prime
went out 23 minutes later but there's no
way that they tweeted that out anywhere near the actual time so it was probably
like 5 10 minutes unbelievable after
announcement that 4 days sold out the final ticket was sold just under 6 hours
after announcement but those like I think it was an hour after announcement
all that was left was Monday only Badges and they moved this year to 4
days so it's like the last day where some people have to like go back to work
and stuff right so it's like yeah that
one's obviously not going to sell out as fast as the other stuff so it's kind of
ridiculous um we know nothing about media badges
we know nothing about media badges I haven't seen anything go up about media badges I have a
badge cool so slick will be doing our entire lonus Media Group coverage of PA
Prime single-handedly this will be my ninth year I will expect you to hold the
camera in front of yourself like this and be like the
fs I don't think my duck lips would really work that well if you shaved it
might help if I sh cuz like furry duck lips is even worse than regular duck
duck lips furry furry duck
DS it's like no that's horrible come on
let's see give us your best come on you got to be a sport for the Liv no I can't
I can't do it 2200 people tuned in to watch you do fre people do not want to
see free free duck you know what um twitch chat let us know let's see let's
see let us know if you'd like to see slicks fore duck lips do not Ducks die
do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it slick please do it
do it yes duck lips do it do it come on let's go here we go I saw one note I saw
I saw one note that man speaks for the
entirety of humanity right now could be a lady that that that person speaks for
if it's a lady her viewership should count more because we have less of
them that's more like
fish my laptop might it just turned off I don't want to I don't want to oh what
a poor sport anyway so Prime sold out and we have no idea what's going on as
far as whether we'll be able to be there or not so there you go we were we were
really expecting to at least have some
information about media passes even PAX East this year there was they talked
about it a lot more I might have missed something I've been looking for it quite
a bit I know PAX East it was fairly transparent I haven't seen anything yet
about PAX Prime if you have seen something please me message me on the
Forum so we can figure that out sure yeah let us know cuz I totally met have
Miss something okay here we go apparently Northern lion LP and lus Tech
will be streaming at the same time on Mondays I'm sorry to hear that that's
bad we might have to look into this live stream time yeah more I mean we haven't
completely decided it's just that looks like the time that will actually work
for us we can't do late Friday nights anymore yeah that is not actually a
possibility that's done as of this so uh
so next Friday there won't be a live stream at all uh next week there won't
be a live stream at all and the following week we will kick off our new
live stream time at whatever time it is we'll try and figure something out right
now though it's looking like Monday Robert says first time watching a live
stream live uh because of the nut job on the loose yeah well no I heard that he's
uh I thought he's in custody now I last I heard he was on a boat and they were
chasing him so there's no way he got that far yeah I saw a headline that said
uh one dead one in custody but I could be wrong I mean I think there's been a
lot of conflicting reports so hopefully you guys won't um you guys won't sort of
twitch chat says they got him yeah okay there you go so apparently they got him
and good oh he was hiding in the boat oh
okay so they weren't chasing his boat they just found his boat yeah that's good be in a boat but don't move the
boat it's very smart I mean that's these are the kinds of people who blow up
innocent people because they're obviously
brilliant glad they caught them at any rate you know Go internet and all of the
uh you know data analysis that went on I don't know if it ever led to anything
but Reddit had a huge thing going on on this pretty massive they had more they
had like a few was kind of cool uh Chris
goham asks should I build a gaming rig now or wait till E3 well there won't be
anything new at E3 so uh make of that what you will what
mind you mind you Haswell is going to be launching around that time same SAR is
that what he mean for oh maybe he doesn't mean for announcements maybe he
means new games maybe he means new games
I mean there's lots of new games now lots of games to play right now so if
you're waiting for new games wait till November yeah yeah but don't wait till
November to buy a PC five months
honestly I just there won't be new graphics cards between now in the end of
the year in all likelihood unless it's late in Q4 if you've got something good
I would wait till Haswell if you're dying I would just get something now let
get something now from what we've seen Haswell is not going to be some kind of
um you know conro thing where it's like
we go from like Dark Ages computing power to way more I mean if you I mean
honestly it's one of those things where you can kind of look at it logically and go okay uh you look at Intel's die
diagram of it and go all right well the actual CPU die area didn't increase but
it's got like a really big like Graphics core now so if you're planning to use
the onboard graphics on Haswell then
wait for Haswell if you're not then um
it'll still be a little bit better but it's probably not worth the wait it's better than playing on a console yeah
speaking of consoles except for Super Nintendo has that for a yeah except for
super Nintendo which we still have to do um that is my ultimate segue of the
night into the next gen Xbox I don't
know much about it but I know you need some add-on for retroactively playing
games so there's a oh oh fire it up there and we're going to do our new
thing oh I'll fire it up there I was
like how am I supposed to do this speaking of fired you're fired for what
for not firing it up I I don't know I had no ability I'm on a segue roll
getting a segue roll yeah I was really high pitched one okay
that segue was fine segueing into firem me you have no grounds to fire me for
that segue roll though come on that was awesome that was terrible that was
awesome oh this is the wrong one that's not the one I want I want the uh yes I
want the VR Zone rumor okay so hey hey
go go go okay so uh VR zone is claiming
that the new Xbox 720 will be requiring
you to buy a mini add-on to play older
games now with the original Xbox 360 they gave you backwards compatibility
with Xbox games but my understanding is a lot of the time it just didn't
freaking work so there's that um most of
the really really AAA mainstream titles did work but with a couple notable
exceptions honestly um I'm going to play devil's advocate here and I'm going to
say I like this
approach what do you think I don't know
I don't really care dedicate okay okay imagine that you care imagine that you
actually were going to spend 15 bucks yeah it's 150 bucks 150 bucks so it's
basically a lot of money that's kind of brutal okay it should be able to play
backwards compatible like it that shouldn't be a big what do you mean by
should though this is an x86 architecture it's completely different
from the Xbox 360 okay that actually does kind of make sense it's not like oh
I'm upgrading from Windows Vista window basically so basically it would increase
the bomb cost by so much that it would be nice to have it cheaper for everyone
and then if you do actually want to play Backwards comible stuff you can add that
to it if you do actually want to play old games and you don't actually already
have an Xbox 360 which is kind of funky if you want to play old games you
probably already got an Xbox 360 I mean yes I understand the convenience factor
of not wanting to press a button on your receiver to switch the HDMI input but
from my perspective trade in value from trading in your old Xbox that's true
that's true you don't get trade in value mind you it's cheap enough at 150 bucks
to me it looks like they're not taking a bunch of margin I suspect what's
actually inside it if this rumor turns out to be true is basically just an Xbox
360 because it couldn't cost much more
than 150 bucks to basically build an Xbox 360 now one thing don't scream
anymore I don't think attenuation is working oh everyone was like oh God my
ears oh sorry about that um so I don't
think uh where was I Xbox 3 60 something
something something one thing how much how much resale value do you think you
could get for trading in a Xbox 360 I have no idea cuz if you could get like
least 100 bucks if it's a 100 bucks just trade it in and buy the thing right so
it's one of those things where I look at I go you know what it's not a bad solution because if you're giving that
so what it'll do is it'll make it so you don't have to okay rumored allegedly uh
it'll make it so that you don't have to have two separate HDMI connections out
so it's kind of like a pass through which will lead us to our next thing um
so you can play your older games and and you can not have two boxes and you can
unload your old Xbox 360 and because what I suspect they're doing is they're
basically just putting a small Xbox 360 in it the compatibility should be better
than a cluggy solution like what Sony implemented with the PS3 originally
right is this um okay I might not be
right about this Xbox 720 always on
right that's rumored to be not necessarily true it's actually in this
same article on vrone but I mean everything's very very much up in the
air right now so the latest rumor will require a separate add-on May cost a few
gold coins uh however something
something something yeah uh the rumor is that it will not require an always on
internet connection to play games locally but we'll see uh and more
importantly Microsoft probably won't be blocking the playing of used games on
the new console which we will see about I have no idea how true any of that is
if that's not true if it is always on so
we're taking some kind of Leaps and Bounds here which
might not ever happen um if the add-on thing inherited the always on yes then
that would be terrible that would be brutal I'd want my old Xbox 360 back
exactly but this is very possibly not even worth talking about so
whatever so speaking of pass through um
The Verge had an interesting article about Microsoft's plans for the Next
Generation Xbox taking over your TV is
sort of their uh their the sensation
half of their otherwise not that Sensational headline because interact
with your cable box is probably more like what it actually sounds like
they're planning to do so similarly to Google TV your cable box would go um
HDMI out into your Xbox which would then
pass through to your TV now it's going to depend on Microsoft having
relationships with the content providers to even be allowed to circumvent
whatever hdcp whatever else is going on with the HDMI signal but uh the plan is
to inject a layer on top that would be something like it could be Marketplace
it could be a more advanced guide and listings for TV shows it could be
additional content Netflix whatever else it'll inject on top of what you're
already getting with your set top box I mean um I suspect a lot of it will only
work in the US um particularly at launch
but yeah I mean could something like this make the Xbox part of your living
room even though you have no use for a console from a games
perspective I I don't watch
TV what do you do I play video games and I program and I don't have any time
because I work so much right okay fair enough um the other thing that Microsoft
looking at is how to make the connect make the living room experience more
engaging so things like being able to track multiple people at a time uh being
able to track eye movements so if one person looks
Away movie paused with which is the kind
of thing where I okay hold on hold on
could be like settings though who knows how advanced the Next Generation connect
is so maybe the nextg connect is so Advanced I can go only pause it if I
walk away yeah well that would seriously be a thing cuz like your sister is
sitting on the couch and goes uh looks at her phone and like like well I don't
want my movie to pause and my imersion to be destroyed and my I thought you
don't watch movies I watch I said I don't watch TV
watch
movies so much trolling so the immersion
level being reduced um everything it just destroys the whole
experience pausing a movie sucks everything pausing a movie sucks
well except when you're the one who has to pee then you should have gone
beforehand sometimes you drink a lot of beverages during the movie H water today
over a span of about an hour and a half and then between like every shot he was
like oh I have to go to washer you're exaggerating not by a lot there was two
shots in between there all right what's our next topic I guess if you if you add
the take yeah shots because we don't count takes you only count shots okay
well uh moving on to some more Twitter Q&A uh no there will not be a live
stream on this coming Monday great question and it's too close to this one
I don't think it makes sense it'll have been like three days and it'll have been a weekend what do we possibly expect to
have happened um why will it not be on Saturday or Sunday what what what what
what what stream down why is the stream
down I am so sick of Windows Live Movie
Maker like cutting this thing together it takes so long what the actual hell is
going on here it's back up hello
apparently we're back hello so hold on let me just check
the xplit recordings let's see if it uh if it splited apart 233 Megs apparently
it didn't split apart so there you go I have no idea what happened there that's
someone telling you that streams yeah I'm sure it is uh someone else that I'm
going to be blocking on my phone after Android's awesome it has a block feature
so all I had to do to uh to get rid of any of the people who were calling or
texting my phone was just click block and then I actually don't hear from them
anymore so we were worried that we'd have to change his number because he got
yeah trolled so I actually it was just a few people that
were obnoxious and they're all blocked and so I think they who who knows they
might still be trying to call but I don't even know so yeah there you go um
question here why will it not be on Saturday Sunday because we do have lives
and he has a baby guys like like
sacrificing my time is one thing you're not actually at this point I don't even
care about sacrificing his time I don't care about his time at all you're
sacrificing his baby's time man so yeah
I'm not a fan of babies some people might know that but as a dad you still
need to spend time with your baby so I
actually work Monday to Friday and I actually work a lot more than 40 hours a
week outside of the live stream so I'm actually not going to be doing it on a
Saturday or Sunday so I mean thank you for the suggestion but that is actually
not going to happen uh when do we get to see the new offices we're not going to
be moving for a couple months I think it's like 3:00 to 4 a.m. am in Southeast
Asia sorry um one thing that we can do I
haven't pitched this to lus at all so this could be interesting is we can grab
all the time slots that are a possibility throw them in a poll on the
Forum sure this won't happen now oh god
of course you're getting spammed it's okay I'll just shut them all off after and then block them yeah and then I'll
just block them um it's not going to happen now I'm not going to do it now so don't zerr The Forum now don't bring it
down yet we'll save that for build logs um yeah
uh but sometime this weekend maybe after the stream or something I'll jump on or
lonus will jump on we'll make a poll in the Forum News section or general sure
you'll see it because I'm sure tons of people will POS in it and we'll post all
the time slots that are even possible for us to do and then let people vote
sure um someone asks about South America
aren't we important you guys are in the same time zone as
us what do you want and everyone's important we just like
honestly baby like I said before uh if
you're going to use the S4 how about the Android 30-day trial I'm going to finish
out the HTC1 30-day trial the S4 demo
unit I got has its own Sim in it so I can play around with it without
interfering with the 30-day trial uh some cars are coming out with integrated
wireless charging put the phone on a certain place on the dash and it charges that's very cool that is really cool and
that'll probably be one of those sticky pad slots too very very very maybe uh
you know that thing diesel keeps talking about every once in a while where it can project uh uh images onto your
windshield that yeah for like GPS maybe they'll have the wireless charging and
sticky pad right where that is that would be soet that would be so awesome
that would like actually be the sweetest thing ever I don't know a lot about this
if you want to know more about it tweet diesel the intern he'll talk to you
about it yeah he he knows he knows all the things I I'm pretty sure he follows
every news show I I swear his room have
more monitors than mine and mine has a lot and they must just like multiple
Reddit Pages like every single news show that's actually casting right now every
Reddit page oh oh check this out I did
it when you weren't looking we have okay so someone uh someone helped me capture
slicks duck face oh I thought I was going to get away with that actually uh
yeah you actually actually didn't hold on a second hold on a second is that
even actually a duck face hold on I got to share this with I got to share this with everyone just a sec just a sec hold
on I don't even I'm not even going to look
hi twitch chat add screen region let's
just add this whole screen so uh also it's lagging so there's pretty much no
point in you doing this cuz it's lagging so much there we go so there you guys
have it that is slicks FR boom you just dropped it just
dropped what the stream I think how could it possibly go down from that oh
no they're all just laughing at me now there we go but it's lagging like crazy
all right you look Fant fantastic this is this is why we like you cuz you're
awesome all right so let's go back for those of you who weren't with us earlier
I challenged slick to uh to to to to
give us his best duck face so uh stream will keep on lagging for 20 seconds or
even go offline for a minute or two in what situation we I don't know uh
seriously guys get a camera slider your advert video we have a slider we have
slider shots in the Seagate Wireless Plus video we have slider shots in the
upcoming video we have a slider hello
from Toronto it's late here how high do motherboard manufacturers prioritize the
ITX segment of the market quite High what ITX yeah since when there won't be
anything at launch yeah but they still support it
yeah they still support well I mean ASUS has a high-end ITX board which is like
Beast gigabytes ITX board doesn't overclock still it's ITX ASUS's one is
boss ASUS's one is like Beast a few other that are really nice yeah for a
weird subcategory like that that's pretty supportive this is driving me crazy what
is it there oh what if I sit up no no it
doesn't matter it's all good it's just that it was uh well now my head's cut
off well that's okay because diesel explained to me that it's okay to cut
off someone's head as long as you don't cut off their chin oh yeah zombies or
something I'm going to go back to leaning cuz I like that more anyways so
uh okay what were we talking about oh yeah we were doing Twitter Q&A I hey you
guys like the g710 plus yes it's nice
and one thing that pretty much no one knows is it comes with black O-rings under the keycaps yeah very cool which
is like an aftermarket mod type thing they're not going to be able to see that
oh little little O-rings under every key cap that make it quieter by the way
don't just pull your key caps off do it with a proper key yeah yeah why what
what are you doing man what what did I what I just wanted to give a shout out
to your forums they help me pick upgrades to improve my stream great Community awesome thanks miles hopefully
you continue to go there while we transition to better forms cuz currently
they suck yeah let's not no no it's okay I hope
it's coming soon let me just put it that way it's hopefully coming soon uh PS4 is
only going to be able to play PS3 stuff only through the cloud not on the
console itself so if you have not very
good internet which was I'm sure what this viewer meant to say um there you go
interesting speaking of PS4 and and uh
streaming games over the Internet let's talk about that Sony
thing oh okay where is this let's pull
up the thing right right right right system I believe Japan is rolling out 2
gab internet which will bring fiber
directly to your house and then each house will need its own something box
that I don't remember the name of that will convert the fiber to onu box that
will convert the fiber to proper ether de so this was a new new story submitted
on the lineus tech tips Forum by vrb
747 and the the most uh obvious question
that I've heard from people is what could anyone possibly need 2 GB internet
for most computers these days come with a 1 gbit Connection in the back to which
I would reply well guys lots of households have more than one computer
now so your Winks are horrible you're so
bad anyways it's like you don't have to
wink with your whole face I can't otherwise oh really yeah I legit can't
oh yeah I have like a condition oh it's called not able to wink
itis it's the only way I can do sorry Mike that was probably really loud so um
so anyway so vrb 747 thank you for contributing that to the new section of
the lus tech tips Forum guys do check out the news section it's gotten to the
point where I think over the last month or so traffic in that section has about
10x which is uh which is outstanding because it's turning the Lin of tech
tips for into a great place to go to check out the latest news by the way it
goes in the tech news and reviews section not the Forum news we should
probably clarify that at some point I'm probably going to lock off Forum news
clarify it like and make it so that people can't create new topics because
realistically you're just supposed to be commenting on topics that are already there right but that'll probably be when
changed it to Forum news and announcements or something like that so
that it's more clear maybe okay we'll figure it out but that section is not
actually for news from the random community that is only for perform news
I'm not done talking about 2 GB internet so basically Sony's going to be bringing
fiber right into your house um for the
low cost of what are they charging 50 bucks a month 50 or 60 or something 50
or 60 bucks a month which I saw a few people in the twitch chat go like oh but
it's that expensive man man we pay that much for like lowend
cool internet like 15 megabit down what is it 512k up or one Meg up it's it's
not might be 512k up I think for like the $60 plan on Shaw yeah so like that's
incredible depends where you live maybe you have a better
situation not so much let's continue our conversation from last week would you
cut off a toe for 2 GB internet for a
toe which toe uh toe yes middle toe
do you even need that one don't think so would would you cut off a middle toe
like would okay hold on I'm going to make it gruesome though would you like
consciously without numbing cut off your middle toe what if it was free for the
rest of your life but then that won't be that high performance but you'll be high
performance for an awful long time 2 gbit internet on fiber is going to be
low latency and high performance for a very long
time would it scale to would would it scale say it scales it scales let's say
it scales you would cut off your middle toe like is thereand look at it is there
a bandwidth cap bandwidth cap let's say
no maybe I I might chicken out like um
chcken out like you have to use like uh bolt cutters really yeah why are you
making this so it has to be gruesome why does it have to be gruesome but like
just hold on no no just just but okay there's there's a there's a trained
medical staff next to you ready to go
would they put me out right after I do it cuz I'm pretty sure you put someone
under if their toe is missing I don't think so really yeah why they probably
just locally uh cuz you might go into shock local anesthetic okay whatever
they're going to do whatever they need to do I'm not a medical professional I don't know not at all so don't listen to
me but bolt cutters on the toe would you do it for 2 gig internet now and it
scales see I would like to say yes right now but honestly I think a lot of people
say yes outside of situations and if you actually sat them down in like here are
the I will get the B Cutters you'd probably have me in a barn in like a
metal chair in like the most gruesome creepy situation this sound really bad
you'd probably why would I have you in a barn in a metal chair oh God what why'
you have to take it there why did you take it there no no no I said I me like
I meant like uh what's his name I said there's medical professionals would you
like to play a game what's what's his would you like to
play a game that's his tagline there's multiple movies
Chucky no I don't know I've hor mov way
more recent maybe my I don't know horror movies saw twitch chat knows twitch chat
knows everything twitch chat does know everything actually saw saw have you
you've heard of Saw right I've heard of never seen you like to play a game yeah
it's all creepy and all messed up I feel like you would have that weird
creepiness messed up Factor but you'd get 2 gigabit internet out of it but I
think by the time I sat down I might I might chicken out but I would like to
say yes now I think there's a onetime fee to actually get it into to your
house that's probably pretty brutal which is probably pretty brutal but I
mean that's sort of that's sort of life um I think you have to subsidize stuff
like this a little bit I think we're an awful long way away from Canada reaching
this level of internet connectivity but the reason I did segue into this is that
this level of Internet 2 gbit per second
low latency fiber it would be capable of
streaming
games it's coming but the place that has
always had the fastest internet has it and nowhere else has it and it's going
to take so long for other places to transition but you look at look at
companies like Nintendo and Sony these Japanese companies how many cares do
they give exactly that only Japan can use a lot of the technology they build
yeah none yeah zero so that means there
will be customers for NVIDIA's grid technology which is their cloud-based
gaming uh so remote gaming servers um so
there will be customers there will be grids being deployed it will be a real
thing very soon I'm interested to see how many massive outages there are
because it doesn't matter at all what
backend you have every single big launch in so long has had failure launches
because no servers can support it okay well would it be any different than
already it is then it's going to be worse you think
so uh apparently there are people coming
home so a fairly large group of randoms just pulled up um but it's it's way more
server power cuz they have to do all the graphics rendering on their end right
that's nuts but that won't affect network doesn't matter the server
backbone will not be able to do it all right well nowhere even close like the
graphics power to power all that is going to be nuts how few people are
going to have 2 gbit connections though are those people going to overpow I
think there will be a slow ramp they'll have time all of Japan they're going to have time to build like 40 super
computers on top of each other this going to be nuts
I think I think we're far from it like very far from it because of Graphics
power you and I can agree to disagree on the network backbone is definitely there
you're right but Graphics power for all those people is going to be nuts cuz
people are going to be like okay I'm playing at like five frames per second this is
pay more get more frames oh
huh wow free to play but when you
connect it's super slow so you suck or when you connect it plays at like 480p
or like 320p right and you upgrade to a
premium account to make it look better or like an Uber premium account to get
more Graphics horsepower and then maybe maybe it's you're actually accessing the
server so you pay like monthly fees based on how good you want your
connection to be and you get to play all your games at that rate it's
coming they'll they'll they'll do tons of stuff like that they'll do tons of
stuff that's it will scale it will be just like the most bizarre head turning
thing ever really help them manage the graphics power it would help them manage
the graphics power and network y of course both of them and they could just
be like lol 2 260p 40p good luck exactly
uh and for some games it wouldn't matter we tennis who cares yeah yeah um okay so
here's a big thing Fox oh I forgot to put down the link for this one okay well
H crap I forget where I saw this link but foxcon has settled with Microsoft
over Android licensing fees so this is fascinating because the rumor has it
that the uh cuz Microsoft's already settled with a couple guys and the rumor
has it that Microsoft is extracting as much as $10 or more per Android
device um in Li in software licensing fees how many cares does Microsoft give
about Windows Phone 8 at that point honestly I mean I'm sure they care
they care but like oh yeah you guys are making phones good job good job cuz
we're up to uh what was the new number 1 billion total Android devices Shi to
date was it was it to date I thought they said they were going to ship a
billion this year okay it's well I don't think it's going to be a billion this
year that's a lot I I don't remember what it was anyway something to go
something to do with a billion and something to do with about uh over half
of Android devices are apparently being tacked on with Microsoft licensing fees
according to a Microsoft rep so there's that so if they sell another billion
within a much shorter period of time looking at the way are ramping Microsoft
will be collecting exactly that many billions of dollars just for sitting on
their butts watching Android out sell everything else I've had I've had people say 1
billion by the end of the year and I've had people say 1 billion to this date
and I've had more than one person say though 1.5 million activations a
day which is nuts wow because that means
what Microsoft $15 million a day for not
making things oh that's so balling well no less
than that cuz they were saying more than half so let's say $7.5 million dollar a
day still for not actually making anything that's awesome no R&D that they
haven't already done years ago right um no tooling of the device do they care if
they don't sell surface cuz they um uh Microsoft was actually this uh tied into
one of our other topics from last week which was uh um the report that the PC
was dead and iPad was killing it and PC sales were down 14% And then a report
came out this week that Microsoft's profits were up something like 14% or
17% or something like that uh I can't remember I don't we don't have it in
there I don't think it ever made it to our stream um outline but I'm kind of
looking at it going yeah I don't think they actually mind if
not too many copies of Windows 8 so so
they're just like H Microsoft Will Survive that's something we've learned
they'll be fine they're figuring I mean they're figuring out content distribution with things like the Xbox
music store they're figuring out gaming
in a way that I think Sony kind of
forgot um so so they're figuring out that they're figuring out finally I mean
they tried with media center PC that was
2002 XP Media Center no no the PC will
be an integral part of the home living room environment here we are over 10
years later and it looks like the nextg Xbox might actually finally get there
but they've been determined they're going to do it uh so they're finally
getting to that point I'm not worried for Microsoft Media Center PC was pretty
cool but like how many people did you know that had
one right so one right yourself two two
my parents and my then girlfriend's parents
so it's because you distributed it them right that's pretty much the same
experience that I had whatever man it's like places that I
put it in that's the only places I knew it existed places that I put it in and
then went and helped them fix it over and over and over
again yep yeah oh I got to restart it again oh it's Windows
a uh we should do what time is it we should do the rest of our community news
items yeah Community news items here we
go so for those of you who haven't seen this this is fraking awesome why don't
you uh why don't you he um why don't you do this one from
the Forum posted um uh the the xit Labs
article about the $79.90 malta being
available through an eBay sale it is prohibited to sell engineering sample
items on eBay and just in general please it's just not really okay um so here
I'll let you take over I'm just going to go find out who that is at the yeah
that's probably not a bad idea before all of our stuff goes missing and we
can't make videos anymore hey anyways so this guy puts up a $79.90 Malta on eBay
and expects it to actually work or he's trolling I'm not really sure either he's
he's an idiot or he thought it would be funny I think that's really all that is
left to that um but yeah it got up to
how much let me check this really quick guy on the Forum mentioned it
$96,400 from IP changer or charger that's that's
insane I I brought that up with lonus earlier and he mention mentioned that it
was probably someone trolling they weren't actually going to pay that much
I don't know I think that might have been legitimate which is terrible
because even if you make a review of it or anything you're not going to make
back anywhere close to that amount of money like nowhere even remotely close
to that amount of money not even not even on the same scale like you couldn't
weigh those against each other and the funny thing is unless you're a reviewer
unless you have some kind of a hookup you can't get drivers for it yeah
you actually won't be able to run it until the Embargo lifts I would hope
that that guy would at least give you a driver with it uh maybe it ships with a
USB driver driver might not have one um no no usually they don't you've seen how
they distribute the dri no I know through yeah through like an FTP
whatever you could download it put it on USB drive and Sh it with your
$96,000 must been a joke I think you could give the guy freaking a flash
drive for his $96,000 speaking of engineering
samples we are officially Haswell up we
can't put them on anything yet yeah we don't have a motherboard yet speaking of
not having the drivers to run the hardware we we don't have the
motherboard yay look it's a chip and the top is kind of silvery
colored a Haswell h lower power yeah you
know how many times I've done this where I've just been like holding the new CPU
knowing that actually I can't do anything with it it's like every
generation the chip always arrives first um the ASUS thing that I'm going to
should hopefully have some details on their side but so far I haven't heard
anything solid from any motherboard guys I think MSI's got boards lined up for us
uh Gigabyte said they're going to do their best to have boards lined up for us so we have all the hells actually
that's one of the four that arrived in the mail for us people are saying open
it but the like these ones are so boring
they're white box you guys I mean what what do you want here hold this for a
sec sorry um I got you twitch chat yeah
don't worry we're on this okay here we go Haswell this particular one is a
4670k there you go comes with uh oh my goodness a stock
cooler stunning a stock cooler that looks
exactly like a thermal compound amazing
pre-apply revolutionary cool your face you put it on your face oh lame I got it
on my face it's all right is it is it okay it's all right okay cool um so
there's that yes okay what's next it's
revolutionary I know changes everything this changes absolutely everything
again changes the changes again the
changes are changing on in a logarithmic the fashion The Innovation
is amazing chip beautiful pads on the B
revolutionary I think this is all low time it doesn't change how many times
have we seen this we've been done the spec for a while oh oh that's probably a
pretty solid indicator it's
down why oh this is frustrating last time it
just revived itself so we can uh maybe
the the epicness of Haswell just people are saying Intel was like nope yeah the
epicness apparently we're back so the epicness of Haswell just destroyed the
live stream because some employee at Intel was like smash laying the hammer
down there like control all of the internet um but yeah we've seen this
time and time again it never actually changes we're talking a couple percent
here and there this chip has been finished for months essentially let me
put it that way like the kinds of tweaks that they're making in the months
leading up to a launch remember Intel sets a launch date like an actual day
like months in advance how could they know that it's going to be ready that
day because Intel is not like some you
know cheap software company with two letters in their name that starts with e
and ends an a where they're just like release date if it's not ready release
it anyway Intel does QA like we're never
going to get EA sponsorship ever we gave
up on that a long time ago it's just over and done with at this
point maybe if they sent us a pizza with our next
game uh but anyway I mean it's been done for months which B basically means that
um the chip that they're testing is pretty much done and it also means that
whatever board which has pretty much no logic left on it now that the chip
itself is integrating the PCI Express controller the memory controller the vrm
the voltage regulation modules which was part of our topic last week that we
skimmed over a little bit that I'm going to launch into here um there's not a
whole lot that the motherboard actually contributes to the performance anymore
besides just providing a conduit for
traces to go to like the memory slots um so speaking of Haswell there
was an AMA on Reddit a number of months back where an Intel engineer said it
would be an overclocker delight and I think a lot of people uh assumed that
that would mean that unlike ivybridge because Sandy Bridge was a great overclocker Ivy Bridge had better
performance per per megahertz than
sandybridge did but it didn't overclock as high so they ended up being for all
intents and purposes for overclockers equally performing platforms I think a
lot of people assumed that that meant Haswell was going to overclock like a
bad out of hell again but what he might have actually meant is that due to the
integrated vrm you going to be able to buy a cheapo motherboard and you're
going to be able to get the same kind of overclocking performance as an expensive
motherboard which by the way two motherboards running two chips at the
same frequency I don't care what board it is are going to be within margin of
error of each other in terms of performance when it comes to overclocking increasing the system
performance it only does it if you can
get more gigahertz a trend that we've been seeing lately that you actually
picked out a while ago is that people are building really really high-end systems and they don't want to put a ton
of cards in them because they're just going graphics card oh it looks good I
don't want to touch it I don't want add any more cards leave it leave leave it how it is I don't no no I don't want to
touch it um lonus and I always put in sound cards and he's got a raid card
he's ra card with eight ssds on it and
I'm just like yes my Cable Management isn't perfect but you know what I
actually have Hardware in my machine like we enjoy putting Hardware in our
machines
so wow so anyways um I'm I'm wondered I
wonder I can't even talk now that was ridiculous I wonder with Haswell if
we're going to see a lot more card heavy machines cheap motherboard throw a
custom Nick throw in your custom sound card buy a buy a $119.99 board buy a
proper sound card buy a proper I don't know like what a like I mean ssds are at
the point now where the onboard controllers are not able to keep up with
multiple ssds so if people want to actually get the most performance
possible out of their storage system they may need a third-party RAID
controller speaking of which for the longest time um people would ask me is
there any benefit to raid zeroing ssds and having run everything from a hard
drive to a cached solution to an SSD to
a better SSD to a better SSD to an 8 SSD
array in my personal machine over the years um I would always tell them
actually no it really doesn't make any difference um I was wrong because I mean
okay yes it makes a difference in benchmarks that much is clear but I've
had people ask me dayto day do you notice a difference and I didn't notice
when I upgraded to my 8 SSD raid zero array and it didn't bother me that much
when my personal rig was down for a long time and I wasn't using it but now that
I'm back on it I'm like oh yeah it
actually makes a difference I watched some some program openings that were
kind of ridiculous like he runs a fairly decent SSD you've got an octane 256
right which is not the best SSD in the world but it's good it's a SATA 3 SSD
it's not a bad drive but it's just like
it's it's it's the responsiveness I didn't realize what was missing until it
was taken away and then I was given it back and I'm like oh okay right this
this is good speaking of which my personal rig is 100% up and running now
the only thing I'm missing is cosmetic I'm missing the glass panel for the side
window and then I'm also missing um little grommets to cover things with
what are you Tech it can't turn on right now that's not my personal rig the RAM
is oh no no I put gskill RAM in it a
yeah and when you finally bring the server back from NC I I will be able to
deck it out hey that's doing good things right now yeah I know okay I just need
that RAM for my rig all 64 gigs of it there's 48 in there
yeah but I have 16 okay in my in my rig right now so yeah like what
Bam um what were we talking about oh yeah we
wanted to do the rest of the news items so here's our here's our next rumor so
this one looks pretty interesting we're going to hopefully we actually what's
going on oh there it is oh that's funky we actually know nothing about this yeah
but good bites contributed this news topic wow 00 post Good Bites contributes
a lot to the news section Thank you Good Bites thank you good bites you are the
man or lady person guy dude dude is kind
of both no one says dudette yeah you know
what's weird people also say guys yeah hey guys in reference to entire groups
of people so G Good Bites is one of good
guys one of several Good Guys regardless of gender and I mean you know what hey
gender's not so much just like an hon off switch anymore there's that sort of
that whole gender Spectrum discussion so good bites good individual good human
being or even multiple people I mean schizophrenia is a thing good good or
organism or you are a great organism okay let's settle on that from now on
okay um is that even technically right I think so cuz he could be multiple
organisms if he has a parasite inside him
yeah
anyway what is politically correct going to come talk about this anyways so
NVIDIA's releasing some new gpus allegedly allegedly we actually have no
idea the first I heard of this was actually Good Bites post so so uh
according to the post it won't be Maxwell Next Generation but rather a
refresh of the Kepler series which makes sense because like everyone else um you
know NVIDIA seems to follow that in Tik Tok strategy where it's um process
shrink architecture change process shrink architecture change so we've
we've got Kepler now maybe a process shrink reduction of heat and power
consumption maybe some more overclocking Headroom some bug fixes some performance
improvements which all makes sense for process rink all in all I'd expect a GTX
780 to be 10 to 15% better than a 680
just guessing but maybe 20% better maybe
it overclocks a little better maybe it's lower power consumption all the
makes sense um however go ahead the main
thing I'm hoping for is no plastic extensions yeah I want full PCB no ego
extensions on them you know what's funny is uh have you seen a reference
7790 cuz we didn't have a reference one when you were doing your testing I have
not actually it has a long PCB but like
two inches of it are just blank honestly I still rather that
though i' I'd rather a PCB than than a
plastic extension but it's like oh so
what I'm hoping if this does turn out to be NVIDIA strategy is that um someone
launches a completely new architecture because AMD as far as I know has been
talking about the end of this year something going on that's another rumor
allegedly we don't actually know for sure honly no idea but if they launched
a completely new architecture that could put NVIDIA at a bit of an advantage for
the next few months but then at a bit of a disadvantage in uh in the months
following that I mean especially if AMD can launch something in time for uh
here's an article on it on PC per by the way there's the fudzilla link so we can
go check that out I mean fudzilla take it all with a grain of salt it's
fudzilla yeah I actually met fuad for the first time at CES 2013 really yeah I
ran into him he's uh super soft spoken I was surprised yeah I was uh I was hanging
out with Josh from fractal oh cool and uh and fudo knows him apparently they go
way back so they were talking that makes sense um fudo didn't had no idea who I
was of course so I was like okay that's okay it's like one of those things it's
like I get pulled over by the do you even know who I am I'm lest Tech tips
from YouTube like you can't give me a ticket I make videos on YouTube yeah
exactly like don't you know what internet famous means I walked through a
forest once and chugged hot sauce oh
that was painful he that was by the way the red bottle was hot sauce and he
actually did it was like you know it would have been smart to put something
else inside it did not think of
that like legit did not think of that um
so we've got two more very important items coming up these are going to be
our featured build logs of the week so slick take it away Desert Storm Desert
Storm is the first one we are not logged in so why don't you talk about Desert Storm while I log Us in Desert Storm is
an awesome tribute to just picking the right color scheme parts and like
envisioning your build before you do it and then leave your power supply
properly and just having something that looks so much more than some of its
parts without putting like way too much
into it so this is a like great looking computer looks absolutely awesome
hopefully Linus can actually log in so I can stop um stalling stalling for time
as I talk about how the computer looks good there we go so he picked like a
desert stormy kind of color scheme you know what I'm going to zoom out a little
bit that actually looks better zoomed out there we go so everything kind of
Suits it all looks good you can tell it was planned out
beforehand nice uh tough tough series board selection tough series board the
right color Vengeance corer Vengeance memory looks good that's great looking
sleeving that he's got on there MD PCX
yep I wouldn't mind seeing things a little bit tidier in here but honestly
mine's not much better so I can't and it's still pretty good can't criticize
too much I noticed that too actually but it's still it's not bad it's not bad at
all I mean at least it's sleeved but uh you can you can get your groupings a
little bit tighter than that great job on the sleeving look how even that is
yeah it's it's not quite as good on the power supply but people won't see that
really yeah mine's ghetto on the power supply just because it doesn't really
matter yeah yeah so you can see it's a little
bit more choppy there but as we both said earlier it doesn't matter he's got
some really nice photos I really like that one this one this one very Cooler
Master V8 this looks really cool Cooler Master V8 I don't think gets enough
credit no it's very cool looking it performs all right it's not a bad heat
sink by build as well cuz it's kind of
there we go there's the money shot yeah so he so he he must have planned it out
he must have envisioned it beforehand he picked the right parts he sleeved his PO
spine it just looks really good yeah this is the kind of build that is uh
very doable for you know someone building a new rig that I mean obviously
you need a bit of a budget to make a machine like that but it's not one of
those crazy like you have to own your own like water cutter
to you like sold your house and bought a few machines and some tools and some
parts and built a computer so it's it's
which we're not saying is a problem no not at all of course that's yeah that's
why I don't have anything not at all except my computer's not that great this
one is just nuts the Psychedelic machine
it's called it's nuts I I'm going to let it kind of speak for itself once we get
down here a little bit so he's picking some parts access PC displays okay yeah
so he's just just installing lighting there and this is car lighting that he
just adapted into Molex plugs okay that's doable it's just 12vt lighting I
know so you're starting to see the kind of crazy color scheme coming in okay so
we got red on the rad green on this bit of tubing right here Lord only knows
what kind of coolant he's going to put in here or she all the fingerprints on
the power spot yeah almost done ooh it
it he paints it black wood paneling wow
it's he's like uh he brought into it it's it's kind of easy to work with like
it looks sharp okay okay red the panel's
not on yet red mod on the pump red and
black sleeving more Green Tubing all right it's nuts is that the uh the aqua
or Alpha cool it looks like it cuz it's got the I see the filament in the middle
okay it's not a filament but whatever wow it's
crazy look at that coolant the reason
why this mainly got in here is his awesome custom wood panels right and the
fact that it's just absolutely nuts absolutely like pants on head ludicrous
look at this he's intentionally left extra space at the top of the res so you
can see it pour in so the water can pour in which makes it louder and more
obnoxious but I don't think louder and more obnoxious is a problem he's
probably going for that he's probably going for loud and obnoxious here it's
it's awesome it's such like a cool build you don't see stuff like this that uh
the phobia UV LEDs are better uh they have much higher density so if you're
out there oh we didn't even say who this who contributed this build oh Slayer 677
not quite 666 not quite not actually
better than that he's just a Slayer one more than that um but yeah if you want
to swap those out for the phobia ones they're quite excellent I actually
encountered tubing that glows like this or a coolant that glows this strongly
once and it was uh it was some weird
brand I can't even remember from like Germany or something I still have a
bottle of it upstairs it glows like
nothing I've ever seen before um been saving it for sort of a rainy
day so that's just absolutely wacky toy
I don't even like it's nuts there's no more um but it's just that build is
crazy love it so love to see these kinds of awesome builds guys don't forget to
post in the build blog section of Linus Tech tips forum for a chance to be
featured on the live stream which uh gives you the
um self-satisfaction once once the new
forum's up we are going to be looking I haven't you don't even know how much
I've talk to you about this but once the new forum's up I'm doing this so
whatever man um yeah once the new
forum's up I'm going to look into custom badges and stuff so you can have them on
your profile whenever you post it'll show on the side and stuff you have a little emblem or a badge or something
and we'll have like News contributors News contributors build log guys just
like different awards that you can get so there'll actually be something to
show for now um you get a bro fist you
get a bro fist and wind speed has a sticky at the top of the build log
section with everyone who's been featured oh okay cool and that post gets
fairly frequented so that's pretty cool you can check yeah a great way to show
off the the hard work I mean it's one thing to work really hard on someone and
then like your sister and your like your friends are
like okay really that's your computer it
looks like a disco you're just like oh you don't
appreciate this and they're like yeah no we don't so it's it's great to have
someone who actually appreciates what you've done look at
it speaking from experience yes that's brutal okay why
don't we I think our last uh news item of the week is a bit of an ongoing thing
right now if you go to diablo.com um
we're going to link right here to the euro gamer article about a gamer who's
been band from twitch.tv so uh slick you want to cover
this one do you even have the live stream note something on your computer there I'm trying to De with something
else that's going on right now so no I do not okay I'll cover it um okay so
basically uh this gamer who's been who's a Diablo I gamer who's gone by the name
of zillian op has was pretending to be
paralyzed uh from the waist down he was pretending that he was stuck in a
wheelchair and couldn't walk um in order to in addition to his game streaming
which presumably his streams were decent otherwise I doubt anyone would have
really uh cared that much it was often him and his girlfriend and sometimes
other people so it was kind of a group of them that would all go together so so
they'd all go together they were streaming presumably it was all right he
um uh asked for money to get a wheelchair asked for money to uh travel
to move in with his girlfriend asked for just generally money there's been an
estimated $20,000 donated over the time that he's
been running this little scam just sort of asking people for money because of
soab story boohoohoo I'm a wheelchair bound gamer I mean I I suspect there's a
lot of people who game who are in wheelchairs the like the problem is
there's people that are legitimately disabled yes that are trying very hard
to make it and are trying to stream and they enjoy it and there's communities
built around it I can't remember the name of it and then there's this butthole who there's this just
pretending like like look no hands that guy's amazing there's a guy that's blind
who does uh let's plays he's done a whole let's play of okarina of time it's
amazing that's incredible there's tons of all these different people like that
is awesome and if you donated a whole bunch of money to someone who plays Call
of Duty without hands because he doesn't have any or someone who plays Zelda
because he's blind that's cool people who actually have a disability so they
actually are not able to do other things
necessarily as well as or as easily as other people it's like yeahor them is
cool but supporting you know this guy and I'm not saying it's the fault of the
people who supported him don't take it the wrong way but you know someone like
this asking for support is just the most offensive kind of wrong and like how how
must that feel if you were one of the people that you're like you know what this guy's cool I want to help him out
because it must be hard for him right now and donated to him and then you
figure out that the guy is a scam so in a clip of the incident the the player is
shown leaving a game in progress by standing up and glancing at the camera
he doesn't appear to rise entirely straight but seems to be walking uned uh
yes here's the uh the miracle clip hopefully you don't lag
out oh no it's oh yeah is
shared so he rolls in like you guys just saw audio's on
so it
down so he rolls in he's talking for a sec skips to the end takes off his
headset and oh those legs look like they
work a little bit so his girlfriend's trying to tell him in code that he left
the camera on and so the excuses were he pushed off
his chair and he said he and wiped out
which I really don't think happened no claimed the dog knocked over his water
balll onto a bunch of cables girlfriend later claimed that he was going through
physiotherapy but it hasn't been working very well and apparently you can even
see I don't I haven't been able to see it but and see he puts points the camera
down so that he can get back into his chair without anyone seeing him walk
into his chair which is brutal like it's just so the internet's
not impressed with you sir not impressed with you at
all in happier news if we jump away from
this our folding team is doing great uh in the chimp competition if you haven't
heard about it check the post on CH challenge chimp challenge competition um
jump on the Forum check out the post our members of our folding team not everyone
but a few members of our folding team has joined forces with overclockers
decom I believe sorry for the bad information blah blah blah blah blah
overclockers decom yes so we've joined forces with them because it was too late
for us to sign up with as a team and we're not actually big enough yet but we
are one of the fastest growing teams so we're thinking by this time next year we
should actually be big enough to compete which is pretty crazy because not that
many teams very new yeah and yeah our
team's really new um so yeah go help them out the chimp competition like
honestly you're just pushing for a good cause like it's a fun competition to
help everyone on the planet there are no losers yeah so that's cool except that
guy in the wheelchair who doesn't actually jerk face hopefully we don't
help him yeah anyways that's yeah but
yeah check out the chimp competition um wher one of the mods on our Forum that
manages all this kind of stuff is building a 4p folding system which is
just going to be absolutely insane um
he's going to be making a post about it soon but his folding setup is just
monstrous 4 P for the record doesn't mean that it facilitates urination it
means that it has four processors
oh man let's do a little bit of Twitter Q&A
I think that's it for our topics for the night though H yeah I know uh so we're
just going to do a little bit of Twitter oh you know what actually we're going to
close off the live stream here because um we've noticed that people aren't
really watching it for well you might want to okay we're going to come back on
YouTube yeah we'll be back uh so we'll be back for Afterparty but we are no
longer going to be uploading the Afterparty segment to YouTube so to do
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can you do is there anything else you can do um you can give us money for a
wheelchair that we apparently don't need my legs don't work please don't do that
don't watch any videos that we've done recently my legs don't
work a jerk horrible