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if you want a cheap CPU that's fast enough for your grandparents to use
facebook and email or maybe for a cheap
nas or test bench system there's really no better choice than the athlon 3000g
from AMD at just 50 us dollars it's closer in price to a bag of potato chips
than to a ryzen 5 and it performs better than last year's athlon 200 ge with a
more capable vega based integrated GPU compared to Intel's budget pentium gold
offerings better yet it draws so little power that you can pair it with
practically any 3rd gen compatible socket am4 motherboard keeping the cost
as low as under 250 dollars for an
entire system built around one of these chips it is worth noting that for an
extra 30 dollars though the ryzen 3 2200g might have the same number of
threads but it's actually got double the cores on both the CPU and GPU so for an
entry level esports rig that's definitely the way to go as we move up
to the hundred dollar range team blue's quad-core core i3 9100f looks like a
good choice for gamers since it's faster per thread than the first gen zen
processors that it's up against if you're looking for something more
workstation oriented the ryzen 5 2600 is
just 120 right now and nets you an extra
eight threads with decent per thread performance so take your pick depending
on what you're looking for either of those cpus are going to serve you well
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serious but you're not prepared to drop the kind of cash that a really high-end
CPU commands what do you get well here's where things get hazy of the
current gen cpus the six core six thread core i5 9400 f is 50 cheaper than the
ryzen 5 3600 with similar gaming
performance but going with verizon nets you extra
threads faster pci express gen 4 and a better
memory controller so as boring as it is to just keep
recommending the 3600 it is just such a
good value that we want to say
look just spend the extra even in this price tier because it'll be worth it in
the long run however if you're not a gamer you can actually
still find the last gen ryzen 7 2700 for
roughly the same price as that core i5 and you can expect a reasonably close
gaming experience but with far better system performance in multi-threaded
applications thanks to the 2700's eight cores and 16 threads
so in this nebulous 150 to 200 price
range the best CPU for your money basically boils down to your priorities
once you get into the very high end gaming or lightish workstation segment
you've got some outstanding options in the ryzen 7 3700x or the core i7 9700 kf
again depending on your priorities there are two major choices as with the
previous segments the core i7 isn't head and shoulders above the ryzen 7 for
gaming and with an eye to system performance and multi-threaded
performance ryzen's higher instructions per clock more aggressive turbo boost
and symmetric multi-threading capability are all points in its favor here so in
our opinion at least it's less about Intel versus AMD and more about whether
you should spend the extra 40 for the better bin 3800x for a bit of
overclocking or stick with the 3700x if
you're gunning for best of the best we're just about there at least for
gaming and consumer grade workstations and it's here that the real red versus
blue battle happens the core i9 9900 kf
and ks surround the ryzen 9 3900x in
terms of price and in terms of gaming performance both are superior
however there's a couple of variables left out of the equation here while the
wraith cooler included with the ryzen 9 3900x might not be ideal it is included
in the box and it's good enough for stock performance the same cannot be
said of those Intel chips and once you factor in the cost of a decent
third-party cooler and for the ks by the way you will need it you're spending an
extra 10 or more on top of the sticker price now you can maybe justify that for
the 9900 kf if you're a hardcore gamer
but frankly the 9900 keep spending is
only worth it if you must have the fastest single threaded performance on
the market which is becoming harder and harder to imagine a use case for i mean
even a hardcore gamer might throw together a sick montage once in a while
and the 3 900 x's 4 extra cores pull a
lot of productivity weight while not lagging too far behind in gaming for
this segment then we'll call it an even split between the 9900 kf for a truly
hardcore gamer and the 3900x if you do
just about anything else speaking of content creation then
there's really no competition in the mid-range workstation space first and
second gen threadripper are dead end platforms that to me honestly make no
sense by the time you're spending this much and Intel's offerings can't compete with
the consumer 3950x even though they are priced
significantly higher in most cases not to mention that those two are on a
dead-end platform that is not getting any more upgrades
buy a 3950x if you can find one in stock bringing us
to high-end workstations so you have anything to say here
as we showed in our reviews third gen threadripper completely dominates this
landscape and Intel hasn't got much of a response for it outside of their
much more expensive xeon lineup we recommend the threadripper 3960x which
brings most of the t-rex 40 platform's current potential to bear while costing
a cool 600 less than the 32 core that
you can then spend on a good motherboard some RAM or a couple of pci express
devices to use up all of those lanes that you've got at your disposal this
was a fun video for us because it has been a long time since the CPU market
has had such an exciting year it all started with the late 2018 release of
the core i9 9900k which actually held strong at the top of the gaming charts
for a long while but had its lead
constantly eroded by AMD's continued agisa updates and Windows scheduler
improvements not to mention its own security flaws that needed patching
degrading its performance then not content with this slow erosion alone AMD
decided to spice things up with the ryzen 3000 series which officially put
Intel on notice bringing gaming performance closer than it's been in
over a decade at prices that were even
lower than team blue not to mention bringing pci express gen 4 to the
desktop for the first time that's not to say that AMD's new x570 platform has had
no teething issues but overall i would say it was far smoother than any
previous ryzen launch and it spooked Intel so much that they responded with
their pre-overclocked core i 9900 ks in
order to convincingly hold on to their gaming performance crown how times have
changed right then Intel all but lost the hdt market
not only the 3rd gen threadripper but to ryzen 2. with their shiny new thousand
dollar core i9 10 980 xe trading blows
with the 16 core 3950x which cost
dollars less not to mention the cheaper motherboard and then of course let's not
forget the athlon 3000g this is a fully
unlocked apu that AMD snuck in at 50
dollars to kneecap Intel's low end too
so put simply the back half of this year was not a good time to be on team blue
so all in all 2017 was the year that AMD came back
into the conversation but 2019 was the
year that AMD came back
just overall i just hope that they don't get too far out ahead and end up like Intel
did because guys don't kid yourself they've done it
for now though we get to reap the benefits of renewed competition and you
guys get to build some awesome new pcs for the holidays just make sure you're
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