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wait what are you doing here

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just go buy a ryzen 5 3600 and be done with it

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geez oh no you're not getting off that

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easy come on it's the holidays

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all right well make yourselves comfortable guys

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nas or test bench system there's really no better choice than the athlon 3000g

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from AMD at just 50 us dollars it's closer in price to a bag of potato chips

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than to a ryzen 5 and it performs better than last year's athlon 200 ge with a

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more capable vega based integrated GPU compared to Intel's budget pentium gold

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offerings better yet it draws so little power that you can pair it with

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practically any 3rd gen compatible socket am4 motherboard keeping the cost

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as low as under 250 dollars for an

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entire system built around one of these chips it is worth noting that for an

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extra 30 dollars though the ryzen 3 2200g might have the same number of

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threads but it's actually got double the cores on both the CPU and GPU so for an

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entry level esports rig that's definitely the way to go as we move up

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to the hundred dollar range team blue's quad-core core i3 9100f looks like a

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good choice for gamers since it's faster per thread than the first gen zen

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processors that it's up against if you're looking for something more

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workstation oriented the ryzen 5 2600 is

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just 120 right now and nets you an extra

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eight threads with decent per thread performance so take your pick depending

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on what you're looking for either of those cpus are going to serve you well

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just like my water bottle serves me well

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lttstore.com now let's say you want something more

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serious but you're not prepared to drop the kind of cash that a really high-end

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CPU commands what do you get well here's where things get hazy of the

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current gen cpus the six core six thread core i5 9400 f is 50 cheaper than the

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ryzen 5 3600 with similar gaming

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performance but going with verizon nets you extra

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threads faster pci express gen 4 and a better

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memory controller so as boring as it is to just keep

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recommending the 3600 it is just such a

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good value that we want to say

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look just spend the extra even in this price tier because it'll be worth it in

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the long run however if you're not a gamer you can actually

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still find the last gen ryzen 7 2700 for

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roughly the same price as that core i5 and you can expect a reasonably close

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gaming experience but with far better system performance in multi-threaded

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applications thanks to the 2700's eight cores and 16 threads

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so in this nebulous 150 to 200 price

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range the best CPU for your money basically boils down to your priorities

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once you get into the very high end gaming or lightish workstation segment

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you've got some outstanding options in the ryzen 7 3700x or the core i7 9700 kf

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again depending on your priorities there are two major choices as with the

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previous segments the core i7 isn't head and shoulders above the ryzen 7 for

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gaming and with an eye to system performance and multi-threaded

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performance ryzen's higher instructions per clock more aggressive turbo boost

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and symmetric multi-threading capability are all points in its favor here so in

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our opinion at least it's less about Intel versus AMD and more about whether

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you should spend the extra 40 for the better bin 3800x for a bit of

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overclocking or stick with the 3700x if

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you're gunning for best of the best we're just about there at least for

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gaming and consumer grade workstations and it's here that the real red versus

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blue battle happens the core i9 9900 kf

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and ks surround the ryzen 9 3900x in

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terms of price and in terms of gaming performance both are superior

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however there's a couple of variables left out of the equation here while the

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wraith cooler included with the ryzen 9 3900x might not be ideal it is included

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in the box and it's good enough for stock performance the same cannot be

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said of those Intel chips and once you factor in the cost of a decent

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third-party cooler and for the ks by the way you will need it you're spending an

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extra 10 or more on top of the sticker price now you can maybe justify that for

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the 9900 kf if you're a hardcore gamer

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but frankly the 9900 keep spending is

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only worth it if you must have the fastest single threaded performance on

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the market which is becoming harder and harder to imagine a use case for i mean

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even a hardcore gamer might throw together a sick montage once in a while

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and the 3 900 x's 4 extra cores pull a

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lot of productivity weight while not lagging too far behind in gaming for

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this segment then we'll call it an even split between the 9900 kf for a truly

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hardcore gamer and the 3900x if you do

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just about anything else speaking of content creation then

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there's really no competition in the mid-range workstation space first and

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second gen threadripper are dead end platforms that to me honestly make no

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sense by the time you're spending this much and Intel's offerings can't compete with

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the consumer 3950x even though they are priced

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significantly higher in most cases not to mention that those two are on a

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dead-end platform that is not getting any more upgrades

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buy a 3950x if you can find one in stock bringing us

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to high-end workstations so you have anything to say here

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as we showed in our reviews third gen threadripper completely dominates this

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landscape and Intel hasn't got much of a response for it outside of their

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much more expensive xeon lineup we recommend the threadripper 3960x which

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brings most of the t-rex 40 platform's current potential to bear while costing

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a cool 600 less than the 32 core that

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you can then spend on a good motherboard some RAM or a couple of pci express

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devices to use up all of those lanes that you've got at your disposal this

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was a fun video for us because it has been a long time since the CPU market

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has had such an exciting year it all started with the late 2018 release of

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the core i9 9900k which actually held strong at the top of the gaming charts

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for a long while but had its lead

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constantly eroded by AMD's continued agisa updates and Windows scheduler

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improvements not to mention its own security flaws that needed patching

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degrading its performance then not content with this slow erosion alone AMD

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decided to spice things up with the ryzen 3000 series which officially put

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Intel on notice bringing gaming performance closer than it's been in

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over a decade at prices that were even

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lower than team blue not to mention bringing pci express gen 4 to the

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desktop for the first time that's not to say that AMD's new x570 platform has had

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no teething issues but overall i would say it was far smoother than any

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previous ryzen launch and it spooked Intel so much that they responded with

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their pre-overclocked core i 9900 ks in

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order to convincingly hold on to their gaming performance crown how times have

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changed right then Intel all but lost the hdt market

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not only the 3rd gen threadripper but to ryzen 2. with their shiny new thousand

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dollar core i9 10 980 xe trading blows

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with the 16 core 3950x which cost

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dollars less not to mention the cheaper motherboard and then of course let's not

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forget the athlon 3000g this is a fully

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unlocked apu that AMD snuck in at 50

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dollars to kneecap Intel's low end too

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so put simply the back half of this year was not a good time to be on team blue

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so all in all 2017 was the year that AMD came back

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into the conversation but 2019 was the

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year that AMD came back

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just overall i just hope that they don't get too far out ahead and end up like Intel

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did because guys don't kid yourself they've done it

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for now though we get to reap the benefits of renewed competition and you

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guys get to build some awesome new pcs for the holidays just make sure you're

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