1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,319 building a five-star PC that's easy all 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,200 you have to have is money but what if you don't I mean that two star 3 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:15,360 motherboard could hold the key to incredible savings couldn't be that bad 4 00:00:11,559 --> 00:00:18,039 could it to find out we built a PC using 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:24,599 only the worst rated parts that we could find on newegg.com and we ended up with 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:31,719 this and sure from the outside she's not so bad but on the inside it's a black 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:35,719 hole misery a 8 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:39,399 disappointment maybe or maybe it's fine 9 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:41,520 to find out we need to go back to the 10 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:46,960 beginning the beginning the beginning starting with 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:53,120 the ryzen 5 8500g AMD never sent these out to 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:55,120 reviewers for evaluation and if our 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:59,640 experience with it is anything to go by that's probably for good reason you see 14 00:00:57,359 --> 00:01:04,840 the compromises that AMD made on this chip are a lot especially if you 15 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:11,280 consider the not very low $180 price only two of its six cores are 16 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:14,479 full-size zen4 and while the integrated Graphics are decent compared to the 17 00:01:12,759 --> 00:01:19,759 competition when the time comes to upgrade them you will be shocked shocked 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:25,479 I say to discover that your GPU slot could be running at as slow as 1/8 the 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:30,159 bandwidth of other modern PCS and it gets even worse modern storage drives 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:35,439 can end up with their bandwidth cut and depending who you believe this chip 21 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:38,040 might only support single Channel memory 22 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:42,079 who does AMD imagine this thing is for maybe you're building a super power 23 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:48,159 efficient PC but can't afford the better balanced 8600 G well I urge you 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:53,360 theoretical customer um let's name you Grover please wait for a sale on 25 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:59,000 something else or consider the Intel 14100 with a discrete GPU or almost 26 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:06,960 literally anything else this truly is the worst current chip so in it goes 27 00:02:03,159 --> 00:02:09,080 into our motherboard that is after we 28 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:13,160 look at this message from our sponsor acronis arm your it Department with 29 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:17,280 centrally managed protection against cyber threats and with backup and 30 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Recovery capabilities with aonis cyber protect check out their easy to use 31 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,480 all-in-one solution using the link in the video description 32 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:38,280 at first glance the prime b650 plus from Asus seems downright decent professional 33 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:43,200 reviewers touted its well-rounded features so I can see why Grover might 34 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:48,720 be eyeing it at least until he sees these user reviews and guys I know three 35 00:02:46,519 --> 00:02:53,319 stars doesn't necessarily mean something is garbage I mean we could have found a 36 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:57,640 onear motherboard if we looked hard enough but we felt that it was best to 37 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:03,799 limit our search to products that had more than just a handful of reviews and 38 00:03:00,519 --> 00:03:05,519 besides while three stars is average 39 00:03:03,799 --> 00:03:10,040 would you eat at a three star restaurant on Google Maps one where half of the 40 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:14,599 customers say that the food is delicious and the other half say it's 41 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:18,959 defective multiple people mentioned that the diagnostic LEDs don't work on this 42 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:25,640 board which could be an issue if we're going to push our twar mushin enhanced 43 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Redline memory to the Limit Yep this 44 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:32,720 right here is 64 whole gigs of the worst 45 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,879 rated DDR5 RAM we could find jealous 46 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:40,720 well you probably shouldn't be see it's rated for 6,400 megga transfers per 47 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:45,000 second but based on the reviews it seems very unlikely that we're going to be 48 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:48,840 seeing those speeds which was a little surprising for me I mean mushin's a real 49 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:54,560 brand and at $25 it's not even cheap so with so many 50 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:58,239 other options at the same price why would Grover choose these ones oh 51 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:05,120 speaking of price how much was the motherboard $180 180 bucks I mean that 52 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:09,480 seems like a god motherboards have gotten 53 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,760 expensive this is a b650 board yep 54 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:17,959 that's not even a top tier one well at least our storage was cheap that's right 55 00:04:13,799 --> 00:04:22,560 folks just $40 for the SATA ad data 56 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:25,960 Premier SP 580 with a huge 120 billion 57 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,600 bytes of storage which is what enough 58 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:33,680 for Windows in one game let's see what the people have to say about about this 59 00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:36,600 one uh dead dead defected oh here's a 60 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:41,560 five star review wait blue screens but he's not sure it's because of the SSD 61 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:45,840 that is a super weird thing to mention in a five-star review for a product and 62 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:51,800 things aren't looking much better for SSD number two which we bought another 63 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:54,199 junk SSD I mean at least the team group 64 00:04:51,800 --> 00:05:00,160 gx2 has the potential to be more useful thanks to its 2 tbyte capacity but again 65 00:04:57,639 --> 00:05:03,840 that's only if it stays functional you know what's hard to screw up these 66 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:11,639 days though a case but you know who managed it begears the B bigger managed 67 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:14,880 to get only 2.9 Stars the question for 68 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:17,840 me is why there's a lot to like here 69 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:21,919 tempered glass fold my trap this came untaped at the bottom and so when you 70 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:26,039 picked it up it just fell out it was shrink wrapped and then they thought 71 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,440 that was a good idea I guess what they never taped the Box no and so twice 72 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:35,560 people picked it up and it just flew out the bottom oh so the tempered glass side 73 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:41,400 panel could be a bug not a feature if you're going to drop it on the floor 74 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:43,639 increased air flow also the photos make 75 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:49,199 this case look like fans are included and actually make it look pretty sick in 76 00:05:45,479 --> 00:05:52,520 general but uh in person it looks more 77 00:05:49,199 --> 00:05:54,800 ill than sick the Glass isn't held in 78 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:59,240 place by anything there's no little nubbins no little Groove to put it in or 79 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:04,800 anything like that where would you even put front 120 mm fans in this case it 80 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:08,639 straight up doesn't have the mounts for them I I remember we looked at the 81 00:06:06,599 --> 00:06:13,000 pictures of this in script riew I do you have do you have a picture sure it there 82 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:17,000 there is no fans in the front of the picture of the I thought there were no 83 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,560 no they just kind of strategically take the picture so it kind of seems like it 84 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,599 yep you could definitely infer that that RGB is coming from fans on the inside 85 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:27,840 and the bottom too like where would that where would the RGB here be coming from 86 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,960 yeah that's a straight up lie there is no RGB coming through there 87 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:37,919 realistically though aside from feeling a little deceived there's nothing 88 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,360 inherently wrong with the case that is 89 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:42,800 as long as I don't want to have a ton of air flow Not only was there nowhere for 90 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:48,759 fans in the front there's nowhere for air to come into the case but that seems 91 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:53,080 like a problem for future lus is this like really 92 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:58,599 unstable this is really easy to tip over compared to most cases it's so light and 93 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,560 it's so narrow anyway we weren't able to 94 00:06:58,599 --> 00:07:04,319 find a particularly low rated cooler so we're going to throw the stock cooler on 95 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:10,840 here I can't say the same however for our fans if the reviews of the Z3 pros 96 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:15,759 from montech or anything to go by I have very high expectations for them that is 97 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:19,879 to say I expect they will make a high amount of noise I don't want to keep 98 00:07:18,199 --> 00:07:23,919 harping on the case but there is absolutely nowhere to Cable manage the 99 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,080 cables for these fans or the eight pin EPS connector for the motherboard so 100 00:07:25,479 --> 00:07:33,400 good luck David okay that's why I strategically took the rear fan the 101 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,960 these fans literally are mashed up 102 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:39,319 against the vrm cooler of this motherboard this is a really tight case 103 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:43,680 moving on to our power supply you may recall that gigabyte was Under Fire pun 104 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:48,479 intended for setting the over Power Protection and overcurrent protection on 105 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:53,120 these units too high meaning that under heavy load some spectacular failures 106 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:58,199 took place some of which took other components with them gigabyte ultimately 107 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:02,479 did offer Replacements and they fixed the issue in their newer units but it's 108 00:08:00,479 --> 00:08:07,560 clear from the reviews on this thing that the reputational damage was done 109 00:08:04,599 --> 00:08:12,919 and honestly I'm kind of surprised that they didn't just relaunch this as a new 110 00:08:10,039 --> 00:08:17,960 skew to move away from the 240 onear reviews that are on this power 111 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,120 supply while we were wiring it up we found some serious problems with this 112 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:27,960 case there's only one spot to mount a 2 and 1/2 in drive down here in the bottom 113 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:33,000 every other hole is not properly aligned so I don't know I guess other SSD just 114 00:08:30,599 --> 00:08:39,360 goes here but hey it's got correctly spaced tabs and screw holes for 5 and 115 00:08:35,959 --> 00:08:40,599 1/4 in Optical drives three of them even 116 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:46,360 though there would be nowhere for them to slide into I love this thing also if 117 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:51,040 you have the top uh fan installed there is no way to install an 8 Pin power 118 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,920 connector on the top of this board that might not be an issue with every board 119 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:58,120 but it's definitely an issue with this one I could rip the clip off do it I 120 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:04,600 need a knife okay nice wow this cable 121 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:06,600 management is awful and it's not about 122 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:14,120 to get any better at least it won't get much worse our Sparkle ecoar A310 4 gig 123 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,839 GPU does not require an external power 124 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:20,640 connector wow that's one of the best things about 125 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:25,680 it though it's been our position for a long time that there is a class of GPU 126 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:31,880 that is less Graphics processing unit and more display adapter for your PCIe 127 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,560 slot and that's pretty much the story 128 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,839 here unless like Anonymous you are a video transcoding Enthusiast where it 129 00:09:36,839 --> 00:09:45,440 can offer a pretty good value not to mention outstandingly low power 130 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:47,560 consumption at just 50 Watts if like 131 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:52,640 some folks you buy this and expect to be doing any gaming on it though you're 132 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:57,270 going to be sorely disappointed especially with this one that apparently 133 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:00,350 has issues with the cooling fan 134 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,880 wait I know I'm interrupting b-roll to talk about the case again but to put a 135 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:11,600 glass side panel on this did they literally just take an existing chassis 136 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:16,120 drill four holes in it thread them and then put it on like it's got mounting 137 00:10:13,959 --> 00:10:20,720 for a regular metal side panel it's all visible and if they were going to just 138 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,120 put the holes anywhere anyway why didn't they make them symmetrical it took me 139 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:28,519 three attempts to put this glass panel on they couldn't even put the little 140 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:32,240 grommet on the right spot so there's just a second hole in it getting into 141 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:37,480 the rest of the setup I don't know what's so bad about this monitor I mean 142 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:41,279 yeah it's only 1080p but 165 HZ 1 MC 143 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,560 moving picture response time ah 2.8 out 144 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:49,519 of 5 eggs and mostly comes down to reliability issues breaks down after 6 145 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,639 months cool this is a fun one you've 146 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:55,680 probably seen this desk pad somewhere in fact you might have even seen it on our 147 00:10:53,279 --> 00:11:01,519 channel before and the reviews across every Marketplace it occupies are bad 148 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:07,279 but what caught our attention more than anything is the awful seller ratings for 149 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:13,040 it how is this store given a toprated status on New Egg if they have so many 150 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:17,160 negative reviews I mean three stars on 151 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,920 402 reviews ain't good and it's the 152 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:24,240 packaging that seems to be the primary issue they apparently fold it instead of 153 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:28,000 rolling it and my notes just say talk about why they would do that based on 154 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:33,880 everything we've learned from selling desk pads David there is no reason to 155 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:38,000 fold the desk pad instead of rolling it and what's funny is we did buy this from 156 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:42,880 that seller and they did roll it they just put it in a plastic bag so I don't 157 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:47,200 know when they figured it out but hey they finally did either way at 20 bucks 158 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:50,680 this is a terrible value just pick up a mystery desk pad from LTT Store.com it's 159 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:56,079 bigger and better and it doesn't identify Winnipeg as one of the three 160 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:01,279 important cities in Canada our Capital Cities not on here in fact the American 161 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:06,480 cap capital's not on here they got New York Chicago Dallas Denver and Los 162 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,839 Angeles where the is Washington as bad 163 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:15,519 as it is though it is nothing compared to our Ruckus 4-in-1 Pro gaming kit this 164 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:21,480 has two and 1 half stars out of five on Walmart with one user calling it the 165 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:24,000 worst thing I've ever used and saying I 166 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:28,720 feel ashamed just to own it why does Southern Telecom Inc even make gaming 167 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:33,480 peripherals remember when lightning was cool never stop being cool yeah me 168 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:39,959 neither wait this is a super weird Legend they put WD on the arrow keys 169 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:42,600 what and there's no Windows key what it 170 00:12:39,959 --> 00:12:48,760 has a Windows lock unless this is a Windows key and the lock is you function 171 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,680 Windows no that would be so stupid I'm a 172 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:56,839 reasonable person and a 2.5 is not good enough for you so I got you a 2.6 173 00:12:54,519 --> 00:13:01,440 keyboard and it's ergonomic you got two sets of peripherals just the keyboard 174 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:06,279 wow I'm I'm a reasonable person internet and multimedia hot Keys three color 175 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:11,279 illuminated backlight and split key design you know what though I did a lot 176 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:16,839 of my early gaming on an ergo keyboard h i don't think you know that no but you 177 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:21,320 accidentally put me back in my element this is what was missing now 178 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:24,880 you're a pro again seems serviceable as far as these go and hey it's got two 179 00:13:23,079 --> 00:13:29,680 Windows keys to make up for that last one you uh missed the most important 180 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:34,440 upgrade another uh mouse pad oh good wow the oh that's what makes it 4 in one 181 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:39,560 nice and it almost lies flat this is remarkable this may be the 182 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:44,920 single worst feeling headset that I have ever touched oh that's pretty good touch 183 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:48,839 the ear cups what is wrong with these 184 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:51,079 why also this driver is it's like right 185 00:13:48,839 --> 00:13:54,800 there you look like a game this is terrible and in order to justify the 186 00:13:53,240 --> 00:14:00,279 molding costs they have to make thousands of these thousands of Gamers 187 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:06,920 yeah are experience in two and a half star gaming hey those fans actually look 188 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:11,519 pretty cool kind of noisy but that can probably be configured don't push a ton 189 00:14:09,079 --> 00:14:16,959 of air for how loud they are I have to be touching the metal to feel any air 190 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:19,399 moving huh I hate these peripherals guys 191 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:24,320 for around $50 or less The Cooler Master mm 712 looks awesome or the Logitech 192 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:27,399 g305 there's lots of options for great budget keyboards we're going to have 193 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,920 some suggested peripherals for the same price as what we paid for this garbage 194 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:36,480 Linked In the video description uh 195 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Decor oh apparently there's decor and 196 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:44,480 we've limited ourselves to one item and 197 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:46,800 it's one star it's one star oh I get 198 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:51,160 wait is that a Mario star with cowboy boots and a cowboy hat it certainly 199 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:57,519 looks like a Mario star and I love it so much was this poorly rated no it's just 200 00:14:54,839 --> 00:15:03,480 one star oh I get it all right thanks David am I supposed to get an output for 201 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,959 from this uh yes I mean I guess it 202 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:11,519 shouldn't really surprise us if the lowest rated PC 203 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:13,240 died oh the RAM did I put the did I put 204 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:18,680 the RAM in the near slots I actually did notice that I meant to mention it wow 205 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:23,600 what a rookie error not that it should matter it should probably still post but 206 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:27,120 um those aren't the best slots to put the first two sticks of memory in you 207 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:31,519 know what other than the fact that the case is a complete piece of crap I don't 208 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:37,240 hate it is that supposed to be color it looks like it's 209 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:40,000 trying maybe oh yeah wait I didn't I 210 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,240 didn't see any RGB lead on it no it was just a 211 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:50,720 Molex dude there's two more leads off of this 212 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:55,519 thing I think this is actually an RGB LED strip but they yeah oh yeah yeah no 213 00:15:54,199 --> 00:16:00,480 you can tell you can tell cuz if you cover some of it it turns a color but 214 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:05,079 they didn't install the other leads so there's no control it's just powered at 215 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:13,199 least the systems posted though let's see if we can get Expo enabled ddr5 6400 216 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:14,399 I believe see let's go my question is 217 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:19,920 whether it's going to be running in dual Channel mode M we saw conflicting 218 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:25,920 information about the support for dual or single Channel memory on this CPU it 219 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:29,040 doesn't make any sense to me wait no it 220 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,480 can't be single Channel because we saw 221 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,519 the full capacity of the memory if it only had a single Channel you wouldn't 222 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:40,079 be able to populate both both Channels with two dims okay yeah so where did 223 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,959 that come from it's really weird it's really good that it runs in dual Channel 224 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:49,920 because if you have onboard Graphics you're using your system memory as your 225 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,279 vram and slow vram is a killer for 226 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:57,720 gaming performance so this thing would be way worserer than we thought it 227 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,480 was oh are we not getting 6,400 though I 228 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,199 don't think so hey hey hey oh but maybe it just 229 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:09,880 rebooted a couple times and went back no cuz it would have prompted us to go into the BIOS I think we got full memory 230 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:13,120 speed though it's worth noting that that is as much to do with the integrated 231 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:17,600 memory controller on your CPU and your board layout as it is to do with your 232 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,520 memory sticks so 6,400 megat transfers 233 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:27,559 per second let's go this SSD is running at 100% usage just booting up Windows oh 234 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:32,480 my God I want to know how many PCIe lanes my GPU is getting not that I think 235 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:36,559 it actually needs a ton of them but it will tell us if we wanted to put a more 236 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:47,960 powerful GPU in here whether it would be bottlenecked and the answer is PCIe Gen 237 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:50,000 4x8 at by4 is that a power saving thing 238 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:56,039 or is it actually only getting four lanes by the way this mouse is 239 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:59,320 intolerable oh really let's give it a 240 00:17:56,039 --> 00:18:00,520 chance oh yeah put it on this quality 241 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:05,200 you know what the desk pad's actually helping a fair bit the included mouse 242 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:10,000 pad has some really high contrast lines on it and cheap sensors can struggle to 243 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:14,360 track across high contrast lines we don't even have any m.2 drives installed 244 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:20,480 no so it's not like we're using up all the PCI lane somewhere else I think this 245 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:23,880 thing only runs at by4 unless this Arc 246 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,799 GPU only has a by4 interface does it I 247 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:34,720 thought that's possible by it's the GPU that's by eight 248 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:37,200 running it by four ah wow so it wasn't 249 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:42,360 reporting the link speed and the active link speed it's reporting the capability 250 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:48,679 of the GPU and what the active link speed is wow that sucks I'm sorry little 251 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,799 buddy so I haven't actually used HW info for this very much I usually use GPU I 252 00:18:50,679 --> 00:18:56,840 don't know why I didn't just download that but anyway we figured it out I can see why people don't like the fan on 253 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:02,080 this GPU I know I have firmar running but still now that our system's up and 254 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:07,159 running it's time to put Grover's black hole build to the test with some 255 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:10,799 famously review bombed games starting with Team Fortress 2 why are they mad at 256 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,919 Val for Team Fortress there a Bots there's a bot issue where you any game 257 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,600 you join you just instantly start getting sniped and I just SP it's still 258 00:19:15,919 --> 00:19:24,440 that yes cool how old is this game now like 15 years 259 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:27,679 old7 17 years old good you'll get old 260 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,720 too what you're in Secure mode what does 261 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:34,679 that mean oh uh did seem just crash what is 262 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:41,960 happening right now what is it's almost like we built a bad computer on purpose 263 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:45,159 yeah blue screen I saw it on that one 264 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,919 what yeah no way yeah it went I saw a 265 00:19:45,159 --> 00:19:52,120 blue screen appear in the capture I'm going to try one more time 266 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:58,320 sure I'm going to try one more time not currently connected to the TF game 267 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:58,320 coordinator service please try again 268 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:05,240 let's turn the RAM down okay interesting 269 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:10,679 we turned the RAM back to J deck speeds and immediately I was able to queue for 270 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,720 a casual game immediately I really hate 271 00:20:10,679 --> 00:20:17,559 wearing these they're really really uncomfortable also the volume Wheels 272 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:22,600 like backwards instead of bringing it towards yourself to turn it up yeah you 273 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:26,880 push away to turn it up huh who does that what is happening right now I guess 274 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,679 let's try a different like join a different game I can't interact with the 275 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:35,240 game window or like I can't bring it back to focus should we just move on to 276 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:39,600 another game to another game the game runs whatever we can't see the FPS but 277 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:45,640 it's getting lots of FPS it's an ancient game our next one is Kerbal Space 278 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:48,919 Program 2 Early Access 279 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,960 which I know about this controversy 280 00:20:48,919 --> 00:20:56,320 basically they launched Early Access for the sequel to Kerbal Space Program and 281 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,240 then the developer was shut down which 282 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:05,679 happens sometimes you know business decision except you can totally still buy this 283 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:06,480 game it's not done it's never going to 284 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:10,960 be done no don't do that don't set it to 285 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:18,559 high no oh okay medium uh low is 286 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:23,720 hard got it I've never actually played kbal 287 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,080 NE oh this really doesn't look that good 288 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:32,360 for what kind of frame rate it's running at look at these trees I have 289 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:37,960 absolutely no idea what I'm doing okay this seems like something yeah hey we're 290 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:44,360 about 40 frames oh okay fuel tank okay cool okay nice sure another fuel tank 291 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:51,360 lots of fuel all right okay let's see what happens let's launch it 292 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:53,880 woo nine frames a second baby let's go 293 00:21:51,360 --> 00:22:01,320 you're going to space Oh Oh Our parachute is deployed already we are we 294 00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:01,320 are rocketing into our parachute oh 295 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:07,679 God it's glorious at a glorious 10 296 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,919 frames per second like you'd think it would run out of fuel oh yeah no we're 297 00:22:09,159 --> 00:22:15,039 almost out of fuel we go the crash is imminent this is so slow all right I 298 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:19,559 think I've seen it yeah I don't think the crash will be spectacular anyway 299 00:22:16,679 --> 00:22:22,760 last up hell divers 2 30 frames per second I'm getting 30 frames per second 300 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:27,960 you get 30 look to be I'm not saying it looks great I'm just saying that's 301 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:32,279 definitely 30 frames per second but let's let's let's get you on a planet 302 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,279 and see what happens 303 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:42,480 okay it doesn't look terrible for all low honestly man low on Modern games 304 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,200 looks not bad all right I'm a hell diver 305 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:48,520 look at me diving I'm diving to hell we're running at Native render scale hey 306 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:52,200 that's hey 310 might not be as bad as we thought it was that being said do you 307 00:22:50,919 --> 00:22:58,559 want to know the price of this whole system how much should we pay $1,025 308 00:22:55,559 --> 00:23:00,440 just for the tower for that price you 309 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:07,000 can get a much better system with like a 7600 and like a 6600 GPU uh you are way 310 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:11,799 better spending your money elsewhere yeah this is a terrible value yeah you 311 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:16,159 know what I want to know would we be having a better gaming experience if we 312 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:20,880 didn't buy the ark 310 at all oh I'm curious about that too we should try our 313 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,880 onboard Graphics let's do it uh uh roll 314 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:27,120 oh I think you might have missed it but uh that was weird I don't know if we're 315 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:31,640 going to be gaming on this GPU well first I disabled the AR Windows and we 316 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:36,240 moved the HDMI over and the system hard rebooted then we booted up just now and 317 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,720 the screen came up with the Asus BIOS splash screen except there was like 318 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:43,120 green lines everywhere if only there was some way we could have predicted that 319 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,320 this would happen you know I've always wondered like who's buying these 320 00:23:44,679 --> 00:23:50,760 low-rated parts who is our hypothetical 321 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Grover like obviously you're budget conscious but you're anxious about the 322 00:23:52,720 --> 00:24:01,480 risk of buying used computer parts um maybe you shop based on Word of Mouth or 323 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:04,279 brand name rather than like looking at 324 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:09,039 reviews like I get it 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