WEBVTT 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:06.240 oh all right it's when show time again 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:11.519 here we got to get our spacing right here there we go 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:13.360 perfect oh man 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:16.160 you always push me away from the mic so you're way louder than me no i'm way 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:21.760 louder than you because i'm way louder than you i pushed you away from the mic because i'm the one who's actually you 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:25.760 know looking at the show and okay okay here i think we look symmetrical 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:29.199 you know what here just a second hold on let me let me let me explain let me let 00:00:27.680 --> 00:00:34.399 me explain something something here let's go ahead we'll we'll give you guys some screen capture 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:39.280 to look at here instead of james there you go okay so uh oh that that really 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:45.040 doesn't work very well what i'm doing right now okay that's not really the point the point is look at the distance 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:50.000 here see this distance not enough distance you gotta 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:50.000 there 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:56.960 see how much there wasn't there was a no mansplaining rule on the WAN Show 00:00:55.199 --> 00:01:00.320 no no you're allowed to land splain that's we've been through this so we've 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:05.439 got a lot of great topics for you guys today topic number one where is luke 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:10.640 which is i'm sure the only one that you actually care about at this point because this freaking can you take those 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:17.680 off i'm not taking them off oh you have to take them off i feel like jc denton 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:19.360 he's not using the laser okay so 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:22.640 ed can you can you came up for us for a second here can you just show them what 00:01:20.960 --> 00:01:26.320 the heck is going on such that james figures he needs wow 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:30.560 thank you i'm sure glad i had a professional camera operator do that 00:01:28.320 --> 00:01:34.400 that's much appreciated so that right there look at that he knows how to use 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:37.600 the focus ring and everything i'm holding it 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:45.840 so that right there is our new laser cutter and these no no no you can't wear them 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:52.000 the whole show let me tell you the whole the whole sunglasses during a tech video 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.880 podcast thing has been done no one likes 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:58.479 it my vision is augmented have you even played deus ex this is 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:02.880 sick this is harsh i have played hold on a 00:02:00.880 --> 00:02:07.119 second which one is uh specific wavelengths like 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.280 yeah it cuts out all the bs and leaves you with awesome 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:14.959 no can you no no can i at least just continually put 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:20.800 them on like periodically throughout the show you can only keep them on for a 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:23.040 maximum of 30 seconds at a time deal 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:26.720 okay and and they have a 10 minute cooldown 00:02:24.239 --> 00:02:31.040 10 minute cooldown by the way yes i have played deus ex 00:02:28.160 --> 00:02:34.800 um but i only played the widely regarded as kind of crap sequel invisible 00:02:33.040 --> 00:02:40.400 invisible war i actually enjoyed it having not played 00:02:37.519 --> 00:02:43.840 the original and never playing one since i i actually really enjoyed it 00:02:42.720 --> 00:02:47.920 so i said yeah do you really really not want to miss uh 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:54.319 yeah i really don't want to miss badminton this guy's trying to send me on a freaking also you didn't center our 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:58.879 camera way to go ed or did he no not quite it needs to go a 00:02:56.480 --> 00:03:02.319 little bit more towards james thank you he's trying to send me on a business 00:03:00.160 --> 00:03:06.400 trip during my badminton night i get one night a week one night a week when i get 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:10.440 to go out and do something fun and this guy wants to send me to where where are 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:14.240 you trying to send me la yeah 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:20.720 one syllable cities 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:22.959 that's two syllables la oh 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:30.720 all right so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today um 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:33.599 Gigabyte responded via email i hope i hope i can talk about this i think it 00:03:31.920 --> 00:03:39.519 was kind of a it was kind of a statement um so they responded via email to my 00:03:37.040 --> 00:03:43.280 um question about exactly what the heck is going on with motherboard or with 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:46.400 coffee lake performance from motherboard to motherboard and i've also heard from 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:52.879 ASUS so we'll be talking a little bit about that um activision has patented 00:03:51.519 --> 00:03:59.200 a technique for social engineering 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:01.840 micro transactions in games i love it 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:07.200 it's way more evil than it sounds 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.200 and it sounds pretty damn evil 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:13.360 so that should give you some idea what else we got 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:18.479 oh i can talk now yeah yeah yeah ah reportedly apple has cut down 00:04:16.239 --> 00:04:24.160 production of the iphone 8 for november and december buy a large margin cut down 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:29.440 cut got cut axed and a pixel 2 xl color issue that Linus 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:32.960 may or may not have experienced i actually want to know 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:36.560 we'll get there you know what i haven't okay yeah you know why don't we roll the intro we'll talk about it later we'll 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:43.560 talk about it later wancho and we'll also do that first topic i 00:04:39.919 --> 00:04:43.560 promised where is luke 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:53.600 i'm wearing the sunglasses now with the 30 seconds doesn't count until the intro hey you have one fan 00:04:50.320 --> 00:04:55.919 kavor x95 likes you lots of people like 00:04:53.600 --> 00:05:00.320 me yeah let's not get ahead of ourselves you have one pen that's not true oh do 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:06.080 you want me to send you screenshots uh dar bullets james just know 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:10.560 uh-huh that guy doesn't count that's a child uh die wolf laust where 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:14.720 is luke um that's because he's pleasantly 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:18.639 surprised to see me uh zen walrus says you're sick and i think he means like 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:23.199 disgusting not like good nope that's both those are both good to 00:05:20.080 --> 00:05:23.199 me those are both good to you 00:05:23.880 --> 00:05:29.759 sponsors i forgot we were still on the intro the 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:33.120 intro screen there i don't know how ed managed how hard is 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:38.320 this okay this much frame 00:05:35.440 --> 00:05:42.080 it's like there's like this much extra i i always tell the camera people i'm like 00:05:40.400 --> 00:05:45.919 can you center the ARM in the frame and they're like yes and then they don't do 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:49.759 it i think they're just messing with me i think at this point people are 00:05:47.919 --> 00:05:53.759 actually just screwing with me when they do things wrong um 00:05:52.400 --> 00:05:58.960 all right so why don't we get into coffee like performance first have you have you heard about this have you seen 00:05:56.320 --> 00:06:02.880 this yes i read it so it comes down to a feature yeah that is enabled by default 00:06:00.880 --> 00:06:08.160 on some boards but not enabled by default on others yep so uh ASUS 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:12.800 statement was actually i'm gonna have a quick look at my email here and make 00:06:09.840 --> 00:06:15.680 sure that this is on the record um 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:21.919 because it's one of those frustrating things where sometimes we actually 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:26.800 we actually know more than we can say because industry 00:06:24.880 --> 00:06:31.360 contacts don't want to get themselves in trouble mind you there's a pretty funny 00:06:28.880 --> 00:06:35.759 story actually about ASUS and being sort of on the record when you 00:06:33.840 --> 00:06:39.360 thought you weren't on the record no no no no put them on no no put them on i'm 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:42.319 not going to i'm going to put them here uh being on the record when you didn't 00:06:40.880 --> 00:06:48.560 realize you're on the record and saying something that kind of threw Intel under the bus we'll get to that later but um 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:51.680 first up yes i actually asked do you guys have an official statement on the 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:56.000 whole auto overclocking thing so the whole discrepancy between 00:06:54.319 --> 00:07:00.400 it was especially visible in heavily multi-threaded tests like cinebench 00:06:58.080 --> 00:07:04.960 between you know one reviewer's results with coffee lake and in others where 00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:08.960 people were getting up to like 300 point differences in cinebench seems to have 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:15.360 come down to some motherboard manufacturers most notably ASUS enabling 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:19.199 a feature by default on their boards 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:21.759 that effectively overclocks the CPU 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:27.440 right out of the box running all of the cores at the maximum turbo rather than 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:32.479 just one or two or however many were supposed to be enabled at that 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:34.560 particular speed so i asked and this is 00:07:32.479 --> 00:07:37.680 my subject line so i think i've absolved myself of any responsibility for this 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:42.240 being something that can't go out to the public for an official statement from 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:46.160 ASUS on the whole auto overclocking thing uh but i actually you know what i should 00:07:44.479 --> 00:07:50.319 probably talk about gigabytes statement first so they proactively sent this to 00:07:47.919 --> 00:07:55.280 me and they're basically just like good luck no no i can read this they're 00:07:52.880 --> 00:07:58.720 basically just like hey i uh just watched your rant show 00:07:57.039 --> 00:08:02.639 that's that's cool Gigabyte watches the lan show like you guys are the lan show 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:06.560 you guys make the news i'm just like blah blah blah like this about it um 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:10.400 just wanted to comment on the variants and scores there's been some discussion 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:14.160 over Intel turbo policy and enhanced multi-core performance i'm sure you are 00:08:12.479 --> 00:08:18.639 aware this is a feature that pegs all cores at the max turbo frequency so in 00:08:15.840 --> 00:08:22.400 the case of the 8700k this is 4.7 gigahertz across all cores 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:26.479 now something that's really happened over the last couple of generations of 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:32.479 Intel's turbo boost technology is that the difference between base clock and 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.760 max turbo clock has increased a lot so 00:08:32.479 --> 00:08:37.839 it used to be that if you had a multi-core enhancement feature and you 00:08:35.680 --> 00:08:41.200 just boosted everything it was just a little bit and the reason they've done 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.200 that is so they can get higher efficiency better battery life stuff 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:48.240 higher efficiency cpus overall yeah basically so the idea is that Intel's 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:53.600 going okay well here's what we're comfortable rating it for when all the cores are operating 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:56.560 and we want to tune it better and better and better 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.959 for lightly threaded workloads so you can get more performance out of just 00:08:58.160 --> 00:09:05.760 like a game that only utilizes one or two cores or any other single threaded 00:09:03.760 --> 00:09:10.480 application so you can but they wouldn't have rated the CPU for 00:09:07.920 --> 00:09:14.720 4.7 gigahertz on all the cores at the thermal and at the power consumption 00:09:12.880 --> 00:09:18.160 targets that they have so there's going to be a stability issue 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:21.120 there and that's what this uh person from Gigabyte is hinting at yeah the 00:09:19.839 --> 00:09:28.480 reason they don't don't put it on by default there's potential for a stability issue because 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:31.120 it is in effect overclocking 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:36.480 and it produces more heat and so this is why our 8700k review had our chip 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:39.519 consuming a lot of power compared to what we might have expected and we 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:43.279 probably should have investigated that further so we were using an ASUS board 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:48.959 we were using an ASUS board so we've typically used ASUS boards for our 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:51.600 launch coverage of any new CPU for 00:09:48.959 --> 00:09:54.880 i don't know the last five five or so CPU launches um 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:05.760 see how he drinks water to buy himself time um i drink ASUS water but 00:10:02.800 --> 00:10:09.920 the reality of it is that we've found it has really more to do with the 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:13.760 pre-review support for us uh the fact that we can email anytime night or day 00:10:12.160 --> 00:10:18.240 and we're getting a response within like 20 minutes um and that has really made 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:23.760 our lives a lot easier when we're trying to iron out what are often 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.880 bugs with the CPU with the RAM with the 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:31.519 board being able to get new BIOS's that address these or get answers when there 00:10:29.040 --> 00:10:34.399 is no BIOS to address it helps us out a lot and that's the main reason that 00:10:32.800 --> 00:10:38.160 we've been doing that um so 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:42.880 we had all we were running the board at default which we assumed was kind of 00:10:39.680 --> 00:10:44.399 okay so here's here's my response from 00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:49.519 from ASUS well um we've been doing it that way for 00:10:46.800 --> 00:10:53.839 a few years so they're basically saying like hey this isn't really anything new 00:10:51.680 --> 00:10:56.640 um so i really don't know what there is to say 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:00.880 um we the motherboard makers in general this 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:06.959 is kind of the statement we get slammed for enabling it then we all disable it then we get 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:10.560 slammed for not doing it because it's kind of free performance and kind of 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:14.880 within spec then we place warnings on enabling it 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:20.720 and that gets ignored so i guess now we're back to not enabling 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:22.000 it with some new BIOS updates next week 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.680 do you have an opinion on whether or not they should enable it um i'm standing 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:30.000 here i think you should have it off by default it's still a feature that's 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:35.120 included it is just a switch you turn on in the BIOS so it's easy to do 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:38.079 if people as long as people know about it that you're not losing out on that 00:11:36.800 --> 00:11:41.760 free performance you still have it available to you if you want it but how 00:11:40.160 --> 00:11:46.320 would people know about it i would argue that the average user even the average 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:50.000 user who builds their own computer isn't going to touch a feature called 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:53.680 multi-core enhancement sounds pretty sweet to me yeah it sounds 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.399 pretty sweet but there's also like a lot of stuff within a BIOS that might seem 00:11:55.920 --> 00:12:02.160 sweet on the surface but you turn it on and your computer doesn't boot anymore 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:06.560 until you you know because remember you're a novice user you go into your 00:12:03.839 --> 00:12:12.560 manual you figure out what the hella cmos reset is you go find that stupid 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:15.680 button or header and you you know 15 minutes 30 minutes later you got your 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:21.120 computer back on you kind of go oh i'm not going to touch any of that stuff anymore it would come down to marketing 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:23.440 but you can't market something that's just 00:12:22.560 --> 00:12:29.120 um i mean yeah i guess you kind of you can but they don't want you using 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:33.600 that anyway like if you're ASUS or Gigabyte or MSI they've all got over 00:12:30.880 --> 00:12:37.360 auto overclocking tools that are much more sophisticated than that built into 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:40.399 their boards that are like turning up the speed testing it to make sure it's 00:12:38.800 --> 00:12:44.720 okay turning it up some more testing it again and they want you using that stuff 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:49.600 so how do those features reconcile with this feature if you have them both on 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:51.519 um it's a good question truthfully haven't played around with it a whole 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:57.760 lot nah so honestly i don't really plan to because 00:12:55.279 --> 00:13:01.440 i don't really personally recommend either of them as the most optimal way 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:06.160 to overclock i still believe that doing it manually yourself is the best way to 00:13:03.839 --> 00:13:09.600 overclock so um 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:13.760 yeah apparently we're slightly out of focus 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:16.160 i i just i don't even i don't even know i don't even know why we have camera 00:13:14.959 --> 00:13:21.519 people anymore um speaking of which i need a camera person 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:26.720 right now oh alex is taking the wheel oh wow 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:31.279 taking wow the focus wheel well hey actually that's not bad damn girl 00:13:28.880 --> 00:13:35.120 that's that's not you should have seen the celie you just 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:39.040 did i can't do it but he did that okay come show them that weird thing that you 00:13:36.480 --> 00:13:41.760 do give us the celly it weirds me out 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:48.720 i like that you only do it twice you can do it more but it gets weird 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:52.880 after that all right are we on to the next one uh yeah let's 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:57.120 move on to the next topic here um activation i don't want to do that topic 00:13:54.320 --> 00:14:00.160 oh i do though yeah we'll do that topic all right all right all right we'll talk 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:04.720 about it so this was originally posted by wm groom ak on the forum the original 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:08.720 article here is actually from rolling stone of all publications well there was 00:14:06.560 --> 00:14:12.399 a more original one but it the site had that slideshow format so i wasn't 00:14:10.560 --> 00:14:15.680 messing with that okay so james 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:21.199 how on a scale of one to aids plus cancer 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:25.920 plus leprosy where would you put 00:14:22.800 --> 00:14:26.959 activism activision's research into 00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:31.279 using matchmaking tricks so you guys know 00:14:29.199 --> 00:14:36.160 in-game matchmaking like pairing one party with another using in-game 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:40.399 matchmaking tricks to sell in-game items 00:14:37.920 --> 00:14:44.160 if i work there if i'm an executive or a shareholder 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:48.399 this is awesome do you own shares so sick in activation no i don't okay so 00:14:46.880 --> 00:14:52.959 then how do you feel about it from a gaming perspective 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:57.600 it's all over folks throw in the towel games suck from now on 00:14:55.279 --> 00:15:01.600 this is a brutal direction hold on there is some good news they've actually 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:06.000 patented the technique so not all games suck hopefully no one else can do this 00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:09.519 just all the huge major titles from this giant company 00:15:07.680 --> 00:15:14.160 so okay let's get into this activision was granted a patent this month for a 00:15:11.839 --> 00:15:19.279 system it uses to influence players in multiplayer games to purchase game items 00:15:16.959 --> 00:15:22.399 through micro transactions so the system uses 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:25.760 it alters the matchmaking process so typically players are put into games 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:30.240 together based on a wide variety of factors including skill level internet 00:15:28.160 --> 00:15:35.600 latency and your availability of friends the way it should be you should be 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:38.079 skilled so that everyone's playing a fun 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:41.680 round of you know counter go source or whatever it is that 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:46.959 the kids are playing these days right but now they've added this runecraft 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:52.320 extra vector yeah this extra vector of mark into the matchmaking process that 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:55.360 basically tries to get you in the game with people who have bought stuff that 00:15:53.839 --> 00:16:00.240 you haven't bought yet so that psychologically you kind of see them 00:15:57.680 --> 00:16:04.320 using it and you want to buy it and it also so the the 00:16:02.160 --> 00:16:08.560 the article also describes part of the technique being to take inexperienced 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:14.079 players and intentionally put them in close 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:16.800 proximity to players who are good at a 00:16:14.079 --> 00:16:21.519 skill that they aspire to be good at and who have an item that appears to be 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:26.959 related to that skill so let's say that a a really skilled player has like a 00:16:23.920 --> 00:16:29.279 great sniper rifle for example 00:16:26.959 --> 00:16:33.120 um then they're gonna they're gonna pair this player who 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:36.560 and you can you can tell so much about people from the way that they game 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:40.639 actually well i mean you can tell a lot about how how they want a game anyway so 00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:44.720 someone's like always playing sniper classes but sucks 00:16:43.199 --> 00:16:48.480 you can tell i don't even think it's skill level aspire to be a sniper no no 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:52.639 well there's that too there's there's multiple aspects of it right so they 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:56.480 they'll take like an unskilled sniper who wants to be good at sniping they'll 00:16:54.959 --> 00:17:01.199 put them near a good sniper who has great equipment 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:03.600 like hat of plus one that they've said 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.799 or whatever premium stuff that they paid for that they paid for 00:17:05.360 --> 00:17:11.600 and kind of watch 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:14.559 right and then continually retool it and re-optimize 00:17:13.120 --> 00:17:19.120 to get more people buying microtransactions if my 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:23.679 children ever pay for an in-game item 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:28.720 i'm cutting them off they're out of the will they're gonna be out dude they're out of the will that's gonna happen 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:32.640 really soon you guys heard it here first out of the will can i get in there 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:37.520 because digital like in-game items 00:17:35.840 --> 00:17:40.960 i don't know see we're old school we can be kind of cool we used to just buy a 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:44.320 game and have the whole game then expansion packs came out and that was 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:49.520 just bonus and awesome then it all went to and now it's poo 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:53.760 dlc is just like how you get the whole game okay hold on hold on so 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:57.440 what i realized when i was talking about cutting my kids out of the will 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:01.679 is that i i think i've actually bought digital 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:07.360 items before um they don't know i know i know so they 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:10.960 won't be cut out of the will but but but if they spend too much on them 00:18:09.760 --> 00:18:18.880 what's too much then they're cut out of the well that can be written in the will too much is yeah too much is um you know 00:18:15.600 --> 00:18:20.320 i think i think more than um 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:25.200 you know what that is a really good straw poll question 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:28.480 once okay so i wanna i wanna frame this in a pretty specific manner because 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:33.200 there's a couple of different ways you can define too much like 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:36.640 i would take a free-to-play game where the in-game items are purely 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:39.760 cosmetic and it's not a pay-to-win 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:44.799 and i would kind of look at it and i'd go you know what buying a skin or two or 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:48.400 a character here and there to support the developer who's running a 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:52.799 free-to-play game but has a lot of costs associated with it big time probably 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:59.360 okay but if we're talking triple a title like 00:18:55.520 --> 00:19:02.320 we're talking like a 69.99 oh yeah 79.99 00:18:59.360 --> 00:19:06.799 aaa title or or worse yet like a collector's edition that came in a tin 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:09.840 so you've like already spent 130 150 bucks on this thing 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:14.400 and you can't even put the master chief helmet on because it's actually mini 00:19:11.760 --> 00:19:19.440 right and you run out and you blow like another 50 bucks 100 bucks on it i think 00:19:17.520 --> 00:19:24.160 that is totally different so i want to create a specific scenario 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:28.880 for you guys because we're talking activision blizzard here so we are not 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:34.000 talking about free to play games okay you pay for the game 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:35.520 um so so let's say let's say a 50 game 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:40.400 just for the sake of argument okay i know that's almost nothing is 50 bucks anymore it's 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:45.600 either more because it's aaa or it's like 20 30 bucks because it's indie but let's 00:19:43.520 --> 00:19:50.400 say 50 game acceptable amount to spend on micro 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:54.080 transactions i think you should attach a time frame here 00:19:51.679 --> 00:19:58.720 because if i'm playing wow for like six years and i spend 300 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:02.880 whatever but if this is a period of six months or something like that okay 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:06.880 yeah that's fair per year first year okay let's do per year okay so first i i 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:09.760 for you hardcores out there i'm putting in the zero dollar option okay don't 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:17.919 worry i'm putting in the zero dollar option hardcores or cheapskates 00:20:13.919 --> 00:20:17.919 okay so i've got uh 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:24.960 okay while you set that up i want to talk about another thing that this algorithm does that's uh this even just 00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:28.480 takes it to the next level once you do make an in-game purchase so 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:33.120 they put you in a match with the expert sniper uh you were totally attracted to it you 00:20:31.120 --> 00:20:38.159 ended up buying this sniper rifle once you made that purchase they're then 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:42.000 going to take actions that make you feel good about that purchase they don't want 00:20:39.840 --> 00:20:46.400 you to regret the purchase so on your next match they're going to put you in a 00:20:43.919 --> 00:20:49.039 game where you're you're not in a close quarters match you're going to be put in 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:54.159 a game where that purchase is advantageous they're going to put you in blood gulch or whatever a sniper 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.919 friendly match so you can actually when's the last time you played that's 00:20:55.600 --> 00:21:01.919 old school man people like the show i don't even like the old school they like 00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:06.159 the throwbacks i know what it is hell yeah which means it's old school 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:10.720 that's a classic blood gulch they made that they made that map four different 00:21:07.919 --> 00:21:14.799 times it's in every game every halo game okay anyway they're going to put you in 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:21.919 blood into a map where twitch chat is flipping out to blood gulch they love it 00:21:17.679 --> 00:21:21.919 wow it's the last online halo game 00:21:22.320 --> 00:21:29.039 okay okay go go go go go fire james fire james okay that guy is too young to know 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:34.240 what blood gulch is you should be getting an xbox on ebay just so you can 00:21:31.280 --> 00:21:39.840 play it even if you weren't born yet and we need a Linus tech tips halo one 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:43.200 server booyah agreed that'd be sweet okay 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:46.880 do you guys you guys would be down i'm like still playing it 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:50.720 okay i'm not so old school that i am advocating using like the original fatty 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:55.679 controller that controller sucked you're allowed to use the x controller shill 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:59.760 gulch shield you know halo 1 is still like thirty 00:21:57.360 --> 00:22:02.960 dollars gulch tip you can still buy it halo one customization is thirty dollars 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:07.919 it's like the first game that i've toured in forever because i was like i'm not paying thirty dollars for this it's 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:13.440 terrible terrible um okay all right all right i'll i'ma 00:22:11.360 --> 00:22:16.559 let you finish i'ma let you finish but basically the thing that sucks about 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:21.039 this is that you can tell from the language and the patent that this is not 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:24.480 just going to be affecting in-game purchases like skins and aesthetic 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:27.760 things yeah the language talks about weapons and that just means that the 00:22:26.159 --> 00:22:32.080 developers are going to have a monetary incentive to make it play to win so to 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:37.200 me that this looks like this is the direction we're all going the thing about this kind of play-to-win is it's 00:22:35.520 --> 00:22:42.720 like a sicker more insidious play to win because 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:47.520 instead of it being okay instead of it being or did i say play to win pay to 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:50.240 win instead of me being able to pay more 00:22:47.520 --> 00:22:54.960 to just have better crap than you and walk in and stomp you 00:22:52.159 --> 00:22:58.640 i have to lose to you hold on it'll be it'll be pay more 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:04.559 and get a fakeo ego boost because they're 00:23:01.919 --> 00:23:07.760 just gonna pair you with crappier players 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:11.200 i can imagine that when they first roll this out it would trick you when they 00:23:09.760 --> 00:23:16.240 first roll this out you're gonna be on the team you're gonna be on the same team as the guy with the awesome gun but 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:20.799 then they're gonna find out that it's actually more effective if you're on the opposite team and you just get lit up by 00:23:19.520 --> 00:23:25.760 this guy with the awesome gun and you're tired of getting so pwned that 00:23:23.760 --> 00:23:29.520 that you go and buy the gun yourself and then you get to the awesome feeling of 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:33.840 wrecking noobs i mean at what point do they then take it a step further and 00:23:31.600 --> 00:23:38.799 they start actually fooling you into thinking you're playing against people 00:23:35.280 --> 00:23:40.880 you're not like what if they could use 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:46.640 like a neural network to figure out which people in game you actually know 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:50.240 and which people you don't so they could have you playing against the guy you're 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:54.240 playing against the guy who's ripping you apart with a sniper rifle from the 00:23:51.840 --> 00:23:58.799 other side of the map okay um or the guy that like literally gets 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:03.440 out of the banshee and like manages to drop it on you every time oh 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:06.880 terrible it's all halo all the time it's all halo all the time from now on okay 00:24:05.679 --> 00:24:09.840 um and then in your next game they just 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:13.919 like overlay that person's real avatar and 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:19.520 real on-screen name with like this guy and you like destroy him now that you bought your new gun 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:24.159 do you think they could get that evil why not 00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:28.480 i mean it's just an it's just a digital identity that it act is actually 00:24:26.080 --> 00:24:31.520 ultimately pretty meaningless as far as it goes if they take two randoms who 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:34.720 don't know each other they just sprinkle bots in 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:38.640 just sprinkle super advanced bots and that just are just pimped out swagged 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:42.960 out they got the the guns are shooting hot pink bullets 00:24:40.320 --> 00:24:48.000 is this where we're going holy crap actually this leads us pretty 00:24:45.919 --> 00:24:51.039 squarely into another topic we have does it all right yes 00:24:49.760 --> 00:24:56.960 yes it does speaking of ai that's just so killer it 00:24:53.840 --> 00:24:59.520 can wreck you every time 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:05.039 remember alphago the deep neural neck net that managed to 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:11.440 swamp all the world's top alpha or top go players in the last year uh so this 00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:11.440 is uh from gizmodo here there you go 00:25:12.159 --> 00:25:18.080 all right tell me about it okay so alphago the first artificial 00:25:16.320 --> 00:25:24.240 intelligence to defeat a grand master at the game go just got a major upgrade in 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:27.039 a tournament that pitted ai versus ai 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:31.840 the regular alphago got completely completely wrecked 100 games to zero by 00:25:30.159 --> 00:25:35.360 the new version of alphago called alphago zero 00:25:33.600 --> 00:25:40.000 why did they call it alphago zero if it gets 100 and not zero 00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:44.880 because it's singularity baby how is zero singular what do you know 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:48.080 what the singularity is yeah yeah it's like 00:25:45.840 --> 00:25:51.919 converging to zero i'm making this up 00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:55.760 what i'm trying to justify the names you're talking about 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:59.440 okay the thing that's cool about this is the original alphago 00:25:57.520 --> 00:26:03.279 had a training data set of thousands of previously played go games played by 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:07.600 humans that were amateurs or professionals like go this is a 00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:12.480 completely unsupervised like reinforcement learning algorithm that 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:16.720 had no training data set no trading data set it started only with the rules of 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:19.440 the game go and in three days could beat the original go 00:26:19.760 --> 00:26:26.240 is that insane so it played 4.9 million games against 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:31.600 itself to acquire the expertise needed to beat 00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:39.080 the original alphago for comparison the original alphago had 00:26:34.320 --> 00:26:39.080 30 million games for inspiration 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:45.760 wow after 40 days it defeated a more sophisticated version of alphago called 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:48.799 alphago master and that was the version that defeated the world's best go 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:52.640 players last year it gets even crazier it did this not 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:56.400 only is it better it's not even that they just like threw more computing 00:26:54.080 --> 00:27:02.720 power at it it's way more efficient the original alphago master had 00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:07.120 48 tpus or tensor processing units this one 00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:13.360 four four tpus that's an 00:27:09.679 --> 00:27:13.360 order of magnitude more efficient 00:27:13.679 --> 00:27:19.279 now this is like not generally ai at all 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:23.279 yeah this is playing a game but it's like myth it's it's uh 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.520 yeah okay 00:27:25.840 --> 00:27:32.000 but this thing could wreck you at halo 2. i don't well 00:27:29.840 --> 00:27:35.520 okay so that the okay it'll smash you with banshees every time you're getting 00:27:33.520 --> 00:27:40.000 stuck from across the map no scope headshots 00:27:37.919 --> 00:27:44.080 there's a pistol headshot yeah 00:27:41.919 --> 00:27:49.279 all right uh one more topic before we go into ads uh this was originally posted 00:27:45.840 --> 00:27:52.000 by jamie scone jammies jammiescon 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:56.600 whatever on the forum and the original oh jamie is gone 00:27:54.159 --> 00:28:00.240 uh the original article is from kitguru.net 00:27:58.159 --> 00:28:07.200 no i don't want your notifications apple reportedly cut down 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:08.559 iphone 8 production already 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:12.320 i mean if it if it wasn't a strong enough indication 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:16.080 that iphone 8 isn't doing particularly well that there were literally no 00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:18.799 lineups like that was a big thing with the iphone 8 launch 00:28:17.919 --> 00:28:21.440 this seems to be 00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:27.279 this seems to pretty much drive the point home apparently 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:31.600 iphone 8 and 8 plus production has been reduced by about 50 00:28:29.760 --> 00:28:34.000 for november and december which are typically 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:39.360 pretty uh strong sales months for mobile 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:43.520 devices and this is apparently the first time apple has reduced iphone production 00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:47.520 so early in the cycle this is really worrying considering like 00:28:45.840 --> 00:28:51.840 the bright side of this would be to assume that all these people who aren't 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:55.279 buying the 8 are just waiting to buy the 10 but 00:28:53.600 --> 00:29:00.159 but they probably won't even be able to buy the 10. and the other issue is that 00:28:57.919 --> 00:29:06.000 apparently a lot of people are opting for the iphone 7 instead of the eight 00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:07.919 which is frankly a decision that okay a 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:12.480 makes a lot of sense to me in the first place because the iphone 7 and 8 are 00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:15.840 really really not very different you're getting way more eyes per dollar 00:29:16.080 --> 00:29:22.480 and number two the more people go out there and buy the 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:26.960 iphone 7 the longer the support cycle we are 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:31.360 likely to see on that product because and this is this is something that's i 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:35.279 that actually comes up fairly often when i'm talking about you know what tech 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:39.440 product you should buy a lot of the time it doesn't work out to be in your best 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:43.600 interest to go and buy say the most expensive motherboard because a lot of 00:29:41.679 --> 00:29:47.039 the time what can end up happening is because they sell so few units of that 00:29:45.840 --> 00:29:54.080 model it might end up with a very short support cycle and a much smaller install 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:57.840 base of people to call into tech support and complain if something goes wrong 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:03.679 they might end up with more compatibility issues down the line because of that smaller install base 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:06.640 installing a wide variety of hardware to to you know 00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:11.520 find out if there's any issues and report them to the manufacturer 00:30:08.399 --> 00:30:14.399 so owning the like the popular one 00:30:11.520 --> 00:30:18.399 can actually be really good because the iphone 7 here's another thing if there's 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:21.440 a huge install base even not directly from apple even if we're talking from 00:30:20.080 --> 00:30:26.799 app developers if there's a huge install base of these iphone 7's because apple was effectively 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:31.679 selling them for two years at full pop or at full speed then you're gonna see 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.279 app developers really focus on optimizing for that phone for a longer 00:30:33.760 --> 00:30:39.679 time into the future as those iphones start to have their 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:44.159 screens broken or start to be replaced it's just going to take longer before 00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:47.120 you aren't worth investing in anymore so 00:30:45.120 --> 00:30:53.760 the fact that there's this momentum on the iphone 7 becomes sort of a self um 00:30:50.520 --> 00:30:55.200 self-reinforcing positivity snowball and 00:30:53.760 --> 00:30:58.960 the more people realize that the iphone 7 is a great 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:03.120 choice compared to the eight the more it will be a great choice compared to the 00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:07.440 eight that's where i was coming to that's your positivity 00:31:04.399 --> 00:31:08.399 snowball that's my positivity snowball 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:14.159 um so i mean i ended up just by chance with a couple of those 00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:19.039 types of devices so the ipad one was a big steaming pile of beta um it it 00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:26.559 didn't end up being supported for very long it was thick the battery life sucked it was super slow iphone 2 did i 00:31:23.679 --> 00:31:30.080 say iphone she said ipad okay good ipad 2 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:34.080 way better in every way like fantastic and made a ton of sense as a product for 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:38.799 quite some time because even the ones that came after it were adding things 00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:42.480 like high resolution displays that actually 00:31:40.399 --> 00:31:46.720 ended up hurting battery life as much as they increased the resolution of the 00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:50.320 display they ran hotter like the ipad 2 had stuff going for it for like three or 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:54.720 four generations afterwards it wasn't until the air i think that we got one 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:58.240 that was higher resolution and better battery and ran cooler was like better 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:01.919 in every possible way um so my ipad 2 ended up getting 00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:05.120 supported almost forever and the same with the ipad or with the iphone 4. and 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:08.720 i ended up with like both of them at the same time i was like this is great apple support 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:13.120 for like four or five years this is awesome um 00:32:11.679 --> 00:32:18.159 but it doesn't always work out like that so it's really nice when you end up with something like that and it looks like 00:32:15.679 --> 00:32:23.279 the iphone 7 could be another one i personally wish it had been the success 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:25.679 because it has a headphone jack but um 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:30.480 sorry guys button got the watch oh oh yeah the apple watch what about it 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:35.120 os4 oh you're just upset because you lost that playlist feature yeah so apple 00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:40.559 right does not behave in this way every time you have a second gen 00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:45.120 yeah second gen yeah ed just lost a feature that was deprecated seemingly 00:32:43.679 --> 00:32:49.519 and we have no you know insider knowledge of apple or anything but 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:53.760 seemingly to make room for a new version of the feature that is only available on 00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:58.240 the new one that has lte connectivity 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:03.279 so you're just going to buy the new one aren't you what 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.960 you are aren't you are you already wearing it 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:10.480 no did you already buy the new one did you already order it that's crazy are 00:33:08.880 --> 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00:37:54.320 --> 00:38:00.160 say koozie oh i i had never heard it said allowed 00:37:59.359 --> 00:38:05.680 oh yeah never been to a barbecue um but uh 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.920 no one ever invites me to things yeah 00:38:06.560 --> 00:38:11.280 i'm going along this weekend uh you should uh hear about it on monday when i 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:15.119 come back wow speaking of uh you know what hold on 00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:19.599 a second we're gonna do our next sponsor spot uh in a little bit 00:38:17.359 --> 00:38:25.359 um we'll move on hold on because i i gotta side rail us for a little bit here 00:38:22.240 --> 00:38:28.079 you went to wwe this week yeah nobody 00:38:25.359 --> 00:38:33.680 asked me about that i went to smackdown live i actually have check this out 00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:40.599 check this out um here i i sent an email to myself 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:42.720 to remind myself really ask james about 00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.440 wwe because here here it is here it is so i sent 00:38:44.160 --> 00:38:51.280 this to myself on october 17th three days ago because 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:57.119 uh i the day after because i i was like super i was super curious 00:38:54.160 --> 00:39:01.040 what was wd i mean you're not like a wwe fan right no 00:38:58.720 --> 00:39:06.160 so you think it's kind of ridiculous i i watched it as a child and then 00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:10.800 watched it for way longer than i would have because my friend was super into it 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.440 you didn't know it was fake really no i'm just joking of course you 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:17.920 know it's fake it's kind of like uh it was kind of slap 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:22.240 sticky slapstick there was a couple lol moments watching it live actually 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.359 none of the big superstars that i know of were there of course because they're 00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:28.880 all retired now like stone cold it's not gonna show up so it was all like no 00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:31.920 names to me so i felt more like i was at like one of 00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:36.240 those mexican wrestling events just because they were all no names and they're doing stupid stuff and one guy 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:40.480 actually had a mexican uh wrestling mask on so that contributed to the feel 00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:45.119 family fun and uh pretty entertaining 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:49.839 how much was it 20 bucks that's why i went 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:54.240 it was sweet all right it was sweet so tell me how sweet was it 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:57.200 was it sweet in a this was a great way to turn my brain 00:39:55.680 --> 00:40:00.800 off for two hours on a tuesday night way or was it great 00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:06.079 you know like i'm gonna start finding out who these guys are and following the storylines not a chance it was a great 00:40:03.839 --> 00:40:09.359 in the like i get to hang out and like have dinner and spend the evening with 00:40:07.680 --> 00:40:13.599 my childhood friend who i only get to see like every quarter kind of way and 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:19.440 it was only 20 bucks it was 50 bucks wouldn't have done it no not a chance sorry childhood friend 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:23.839 you're worth it i'd hang out with him without 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:28.960 but not 50 bucks just wouldn't went to that with him 00:40:27.040 --> 00:40:34.079 but yeah it was sweet best part was the uh the voice announcer guy 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:37.920 yeah i love that like the ability to like grab the microphone and 00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:41.440 the you know like let's get ready to rumble kind of guy are we even allowed 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.960 to say that i know we can't do it with the intonation he has like that like 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:48.000 trademarked yeah the intonation yeah just say it like stephen hawking style 00:40:47.040 --> 00:40:53.200 ready to i don't even know if you can say it at all oh my god it's one of those things 00:40:50.720 --> 00:40:58.000 like the whole um the whole copyright on happy birthday that actually recently 00:40:55.680 --> 00:41:01.760 was that one was overturned but where like nobody even realizes that you 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:06.160 you like can't say this stuff because they'll actually go after you you know 00:41:03.520 --> 00:41:09.920 that rudolph was invented by coca-cola no 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:14.880 let that bake your noodle for a second huh they also made santa claus red 00:41:12.640 --> 00:41:17.520 enjoy coke how about that 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:23.520 all right um okay let's do our last sponsor spot now sorry for that totally 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:26.640 unrelated aside sewell direct 00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:31.200 check this out this is a new sponsor right connect anything 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:34.240 in a nutshell they sell all sorts of audio visual 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:37.040 equipment cables extenders they specialize in HDMI cables 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to so this guy right 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.079 here uh this is the hl10 i want to say 00:42:18.720 --> 00:42:25.680 let me just double check i don't want to say anything incorrect 00:42:21.839 --> 00:42:28.960 blah blah blah yeah this guy will do 175 00:42:25.680 --> 00:42:32.079 feet with a 1080p HDMI signal over cat5e 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:33.680 or cat6 with zero compression and 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:37.680 they've got other stuff that'll actually do uh 00:42:35.359 --> 00:42:40.560 wow 390 feet pretty cool 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:44.480 so two senders and two receivers each sender can be sent to one of 64 channels 00:42:42.319 --> 00:42:47.920 by the buttons on the front or a remote and you can check out all this cool oh 00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:51.920 yeah it's a sleek little monolith that's the puppy that's the baller one that's 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:57.520 the uh boom this is the 390. that's the hd link hl 21 HDMI extender plus matrix 00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:03.440 over network is this the one that goes 390 feet um so any receiver connected to 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:07.839 the channel that you select will receive the video signal this one is h.264 00:43:06.319 --> 00:43:11.280 compression though so you can check out these videos are 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.160 these videos these products and more at the url shown on screen so that 00:43:12.640 --> 00:43:19.680 seouldirect.com slash Linus it's got that uh 00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:23.200 that new HDMI over ip smell i actually like the smell of new 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:26.880 electronics give it a sniff yep 00:43:24.319 --> 00:43:30.480 it's got that it's it's that fresh pcb smell you know when they when they 00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:34.960 manufacture it and then they put it into the bag it stays all sealed in there you 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.520 know even if the bag's not sealed even if you can't get it back in the bag 00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:42.720 after it stays in there it stays in there pretty good 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:47.520 right i'm gonna give up on that good good work james there 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:50.240 um that's a tyler drop all right 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.560 what else we got here like what's interesting did you know that google's 00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:59.200 first system auto chip designed in-house is in the pixel 2 that you've been using 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:05.200 all week no you didn't know because they just announced it now really there's a 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.200 chip in there that you don't know about 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:11.839 the pixel visual course this was originally posted by z ramsey on the on 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:17.040 the forum and the original article here is from the verge google's first mobile 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:20.319 chip that's not an soc that's an image processor dang it 00:44:19.200 --> 00:44:25.119 what you're telling me the verge is wrong hold on a second what are these what are 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:29.200 they saying okay hold on hold on hold on pixel visual core 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:32.880 soc uh purposeful version of call comes down 00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:38.079 and another purpose in this case accelerating that 00:44:36.319 --> 00:44:45.760 okay so my understanding of the definition of an soc is that it has to 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.760 have basically all the elements of a 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:54.079 of like a more traditional like CPU motherboard 00:44:50.560 --> 00:44:54.079 GPU io 00:44:54.319 --> 00:45:00.880 wow especially among academics soc is 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:04.800 sociology why don't we look for a much more better 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:09.040 definition wow 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.040 it's pronounced soch 00:45:10.319 --> 00:45:18.880 yeah i'm gonna have to double check the definition here because i wouldn't think an image processor would be an soc so it 00:45:15.359 --> 00:45:20.880 integrates all components of a computer 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:25.040 or other electronic system may contain digital analog mixed signal and often 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:30.319 radio frequency functions all on a single substrate 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:33.920 okay well if they're calling it an soc maybe there's more to this thing than i 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.680 necessarily thought but here we go we've actually got a uh we've got a look at it 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.960 here so the coolest aspects of the pixel 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:45.680 visual core maybe that it's already in google's devices they both have it built 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:49.280 in but laying dormant until yes 00:45:47.359 --> 00:45:54.079 it's laying dormant until they activate over the coming months so 00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:56.560 right now it's used just to process HDR plus 00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:01.760 stuff way faster faster than you've experienced it it 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:05.680 hasn't been activated yet interesting and that's not all they're 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:10.079 actually going to use it for more applications than just that they haven't 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.040 told us what but we'll see more image and machine learning 00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:16.319 enhancements being added to the pixel 2 over the coming months very interesting 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:21.200 so here's a here's a look at it 00:46:19.359 --> 00:46:23.680 so here's the course here's the link to memory 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.640 PCIe 00:46:26.839 --> 00:46:31.760 wow huh it's super interesting to me that they 00:46:30.160 --> 00:46:35.200 didn't announce this at their made by google hardware event 00:46:33.359 --> 00:46:39.359 i guess they didn't have it ready in time but they still ship devices with it 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:43.200 they didn't have the the software implementation ready in time so they 00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:45.280 just laid low until now you would have thought they would have 00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:49.520 at least announced it like when reviewers had hands on so 00:46:47.359 --> 00:46:54.319 so they're saying each of its eight processors has been tailored to handle 00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:59.359 HDR plus duties resulting in HDR plus performance that is five times faster 00:46:56.640 --> 00:47:03.280 at one tenth of the energy of current of the current implementation 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:07.599 now when they say current implementation there do you think they mean 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:11.920 what your pixel can currently do before this is turned on yeah that's smooth 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:16.640 baby so they say they'll enable it as a developer option in the preview of 00:47:13.359 --> 00:47:17.520 Android oreo 8.1 00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:23.280 wow and that there's going to third-party 00:47:19.680 --> 00:47:24.960 apps will have the ability to handle HDR 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:27.920 photo so we'll see more imaging and machine learning enhancements added to 00:47:26.640 --> 00:47:33.680 the pixel 2. so the pixel 2 is already getting a pretty good review 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:38.720 that went up on Floatplane last night and will be added to 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:42.800 youtube i think on sunday is when we're gonna see that video go live so uh right 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:47.359 now Floatplane has got uh scrapyard wars 00:47:45.520 --> 00:47:52.640 parts two and three then tomorrow it's gonna get 00:47:49.839 --> 00:47:56.640 scrapyard wars part four when youtube gets part two 00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:59.920 and it's also got um and you're in scrapyard wars 00:47:58.160 --> 00:48:04.640 yeah so am i you're in scrapyard wars kinda 00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:10.640 you're in scrapyard worth just talking no just the voiceover oh you're the voiceover oh that's nice yes listen oh 00:48:08.640 --> 00:48:15.440 that's it is nice i like doing that listen up keep your ears peeled if you 00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:20.880 can peel in here for this whimsical voice um so also over 00:48:18.240 --> 00:48:25.599 there we've got the MSI vortex g25 review we've got the mass drop vast 35 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:30.079 inch curved gaming monitor uh you worked on that one uh we've got our video of 00:48:28.240 --> 00:48:34.640 the let's have a look here what else have we got over there 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.040 oh lg wallpaper tv part two wait that's 00:48:34.640 --> 00:48:41.599 up on youtube now oh first ever sli setup still isn't on youtube so with our 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:44.480 voodoo sli that's over there right now and i think that pretty much uh that 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:50.079 pretty much covers it there's some tech quickies as well all right what else we got for topics 00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:54.400 here oh right uh if you guys want to know how to join Floatplane 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:58.160 you should probably go check out this link that i'm about to post in the chat 00:48:55.839 --> 00:49:01.520 do you want to move on to our next topic i guess though 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:07.359 sorry i was just talking to a prime about an upcoming build guide 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:13.359 oh yeah is that the uh the value value gaming build guide with ryzen the ryzen 00:49:09.680 --> 00:49:16.000 5 best bang for your buck build byed 00:49:13.359 --> 00:49:22.400 cool i just want to actually be in there yeah so i may have almost screwed up 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:25.839 this build guide but fortunately james had the foresight to listen to 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.319 what i was saying and carefully ignore it beginner's mind 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:33.680 beginners beginners yeah you're familiar with the concept no is it like 00:49:31.839 --> 00:49:38.160 beginner's luck but no beginner's mind is when you're like because you don't 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:40.480 know all the minutia you kind of don't take things at face value your question 00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:47.839 stuff ah anyway this is actually next topic 00:49:45.040 --> 00:49:51.599 is total full circle for us because it's a kind of part two of a topic that you 00:49:49.359 --> 00:49:55.839 and i discussed a couple weeks ago so what we had discussed was that senator 00:49:53.599 --> 00:50:00.160 al franken submitted like a letter a bunch of questions to apple about their 00:49:57.680 --> 00:50:03.920 face id technology and now apple has responded and has answers direct to his 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.520 questions one of them i put in bold because you 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:11.040 didn't know how the heck apple did this and now we get to know 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:14.720 so here's just a bunch of bullet points i 00:50:13.040 --> 00:50:17.839 don't want to say al franken's questions because his question will become obvious 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:23.280 when you just hear the answer yeah answer number one face id data including mathematical 00:50:21.680 --> 00:50:27.920 representations of your face is encrypted and only available to the 00:50:25.520 --> 00:50:34.400 secure enclave this data never leaves the device it is not sent to apple nor 00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:37.040 is it included in device backups cool 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:41.920 uh the your face face image is captured or discarded once the representation is 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.680 calculated for comparison meaning 00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:47.200 that they can never surrender it to the authorities the fbi can't ask for it 00:50:45.520 --> 00:50:52.640 because apple just never has it um they oh this is cool so ir and depth 00:50:51.200 --> 00:50:56.640 images were collected in studies conducted with participants informed 00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.760 consent so we had we had talked about you know how exactly did they train the 00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.720 bloody thing because they said they used billions of images and Linus was asking 00:51:01.520 --> 00:51:06.960 well where the heck did they get these billions of images and it turns out they 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:10.160 actually just took them themselves it's not they haven't said that they've 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.200 taken taken photos of a billion different people that seemed silly they 00:51:11.680 --> 00:51:16.960 probably took thousands of photos of hundreds of people i mean they're apple 00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:21.839 they could conceivably pay every single person on earth like 60 bucks 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:25.200 to or like they could pay a billion people like 60 bucks to take a picture 00:51:24.319 --> 00:51:29.680 of them send us a selfie yeah um 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:35.119 so they took multiple pictures with multiple different types of sensing technology including ir and cool 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:39.280 presumably of like 360 views so there you go they are taking security for it 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.200 pretty darn seriously next topic posted by numlock21 on the 00:51:41.359 --> 00:51:46.160 forum this 00:51:45.040 --> 00:51:54.000 oh boy someone at ASUS actually we know specifically who andrew 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:56.000 wu the rog motherboard product manager 00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:00.720 someone at ASUS andrew wu is uh in a fair bit of trouble 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:05.359 right now this is some serious under bus throwing yeah this is some 00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:09.760 this is some foot in mouth being run over by the wheel of the bus 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:13.520 with the foot in the mouth so the head gets run over too and the foot just gets 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:17.680 further in there yeah like it like the heels up and the wheel rolls over the 00:52:15.839 --> 00:52:22.240 heel and jams it through the back of you can't even gag because there's too much 00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:23.520 foot yeah um so in an interview with bit 00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:27.359 tech bit tech basically we'll give you kind 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:33.359 of the rundown they basically go can you explain in technical detail why 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.599 coffee lake won't work with z270 motherboards 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:41.280 mpm the pm goes oh it's it's Intel's decision bittex says so it's not a 00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:44.240 physical limitation Intel said it was to do with the power 00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.440 delivery pm goes not really 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:53.200 it power delivery makes a little bit of difference but not much 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:58.960 so bit tech goes so what are they referring to the the 20 or so unused pins from before he 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:05.520 goes yes so if you wanted an Intel let you you 00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:07.920 could make z270 compatible pm goes yes 00:53:05.520 --> 00:53:12.559 but you would also require an upgrade uh from the management engine a BIOS 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:17.599 update until somehow has locked the compatibility 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:21.760 whoa okay um 00:53:21.839 --> 00:53:29.359 it basically just comes down to stability then until i just did this for visibility so 00:53:27.200 --> 00:53:33.760 this is one of those situations where i run into trouble 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:37.599 because i know things that were told to me off the record 00:53:36.319 --> 00:53:42.559 well well no i'm just it's not about that i'm just 00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:45.920 messing with you i know things off the record 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:50.079 that they're they're not they don't conflict 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:54.480 with any of this information because 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:57.599 what he said was that here maybe maybe i 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:59.359 can help the audience infer 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:02.880 based on what he said because all the information is really in there if you 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:07.440 read between the lines so Intel said it was to do with the power 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:12.319 delivery and he says not really it makes a little bit of 00:54:09.839 --> 00:54:12.319 difference 00:54:13.040 --> 00:54:19.839 they did change something 00:54:17.200 --> 00:54:24.400 why did they do it surely Intel would have saved themselves 00:54:22.160 --> 00:54:28.960 some cost and changed nothing 00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:31.119 if they didn't feel like they had to change something 00:54:30.240 --> 00:54:36.400 for some reason 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:40.880 because if we're going to attack this problem from the tin foil hat mindset 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:46.400 of these money grubbing companies don't want to spend any money and they want to 00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:51.760 take ours surely we can all agree that Intel would 00:54:49.040 --> 00:54:58.160 have done absolutely nothing if there wasn't some reason that they 00:54:54.240 --> 00:54:59.200 perceived that they had to do something 00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:02.960 so they did something 00:55:02.160 --> 00:55:08.319 it according to this interview had to do with the power delivery 00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:17.280 also according to this interview ASUS could make it compatible 00:55:13.839 --> 00:55:19.440 if Intel wasn't locking it out 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:24.880 for some reason may be related to why they did something 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:28.559 it's all in the interview i haven't said anything that i wasn't supposed to pass 00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:34.079 along is there any possible way that we could uh like hack it and make it work 00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:37.280 no okay even ASUS can't do it because 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:39.119 Intel would have to update emmy okay 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:44.160 second question do you think that uh andrew wu here kind 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:48.559 of backpedals at the end where he says uh you know it's not that big of a deal 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:51.200 anyway because people who bought uh z270 just 10 months ago when it came out 00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:56.799 they're probably not likely to be the type of consumer who's going to upgrade anyway it's people with older systems 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.119 who are going to upgrade so to me it really has nothing to do with that 00:55:58.160 --> 00:56:05.440 because you know when um when kaby lake came out 00:56:03.200 --> 00:56:09.200 you know for a long time once until launches a new CPU for a long time 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:14.720 sometimes like right through the entire time it's available you can buy the last 00:56:11.839 --> 00:56:18.240 generation chipset which actually usually has the same features because 00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:22.960 they don't change much if they don't have to um you can you can buy those old 00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:28.160 ones for a little bit cheaper so if you wanted a z170 board with a 7700k you 00:56:26.720 --> 00:56:32.559 would get overclocking unlocked for your k-series 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:35.280 chip you'd get just as many SATA ports you'd get this you get that 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.880 and overall performance would in most cases 00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:46.480 be very similar and someone's car alarms go off oh no someone set off the actual 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:48.319 alarm is that a 101 or is that here 00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:51.760 do you mind investigating thank you sir 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:54.400 the alarms are going off in here uh yeah so sorry about that guys we getting 00:56:53.200 --> 00:56:56.720 stolen um 00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:02.400 this is a job for laser james 00:57:00.799 --> 00:57:05.520 ha ha they laughed at me 00:57:05.839 --> 00:57:10.760 they're still laughing at you that's why i'm here 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:19.920 you it looks like my work here is done 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:25.040 good work laser james i have an unblockable soil 00:57:21.839 --> 00:57:26.880 so anyway um 00:57:25.040 --> 00:57:30.400 from this interview reading between the lines of this interview 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:36.480 they probably could have made it compatible there is some reason related to the 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:42.240 power delivery that they decided not to and not only decided not to but also 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:43.599 decided to do actual work on z370 at a 00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:49.760 great expense now do i necessarily think then that this 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.799 makes Intel some kind of a white knight no 00:57:50.799 --> 00:57:57.280 because what they have also done is they've released only a single 300 00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:02.559 series chipset z370 the highest priced one in their 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:08.559 stack so you don't even have the option to buy you know like uh 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:11.200 an 8400 for example and pair it with a cheapo board because it because it 00:58:10.240 --> 00:58:15.359 doesn't it's not unlocked for overclocking anyway so 00:58:13.359 --> 00:58:20.240 yeah that's pretty greasy are they clearly trying to extract more value 00:58:18.720 --> 00:58:27.280 from the customer yeah if they felt bad about it they would have done like the bare minimum like just like 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:32.319 almost at cost okay like eating it so if they had no margin on the on the mobos 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:37.920 all right so they're they're clearly trying to you know you know do corporate things 00:58:35.520 --> 00:58:42.079 you know the raw is you know average uh cart price or whatever the those metrics 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:46.079 that e-tailers look for the drive attach you know that kind of 00:58:44.319 --> 00:58:50.640 stuff they're clearly doing that but i'm also not necessarily one of the 00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:55.119 people holding a torch going you should be able to plug a coffee lake 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:57.359 into a z270 because there does appear to 00:58:55.119 --> 00:59:01.119 be an actual physical change that they made that 00:58:58.799 --> 00:59:06.400 they felt was necessary for the most stable and optimal operation um honestly 00:59:04.720 --> 00:59:10.280 i think one of the big reasons that we only got z370 is Intel was fully aware 00:59:08.720 --> 00:59:13.839 that coffee lake supply was going to be extraordinarily limited and they figured 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:17.760 well if people like if we can't keep them on shelves 00:59:16.720 --> 00:59:23.440 anyway then we might as well sell them to the people that we're gonna go out there and 00:59:21.520 --> 00:59:25.760 spend the most on the best chipset and the top of the line well that's not what 00:59:24.720 --> 00:59:31.680 he's saying he's saying that people who are just ready to upgrade who didn't upgrade to 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:34.079 z270 can upgrade now 00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:38.160 but they're gonna have to do that to great expense yeah i mean that's that's 00:59:36.319 --> 00:59:41.680 that's his whole thing and i'm not i'm making my i'm drawing my own conclusions 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.040 here about what exactly Intel was doing with their strategy 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:49.040 so i'll leave it to you guys to sort of come up with your own uh 00:59:47.200 --> 00:59:52.319 your own answers here but i do want to show you your own answers to something 00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:57.280 we discussed earlier let's go ahead and pull up our micro 00:59:55.200 --> 01:00:00.160 transactions poll from earlier in the show 00:59:58.240 --> 01:00:04.640 fifty dollar game how much is it acceptable to spend per year on micro 01:00:02.319 --> 01:00:08.720 transactions so first uh alex how much per year is it acceptable to spend 01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:13.119 one fifty dollar game nothing nothing okay so 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:15.359 you are actually the second most popular 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:20.400 answer okay 38 of our voters think it's okay to 01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:23.119 spend up to ten dollars on a fifty dollar game 01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:29.319 so like a little treat it's a little something for yourself some horse armor you know yeah 01:00:26.319 --> 01:00:29.319 um 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:41.680 canadian that's like that's like six how many rubles is that 01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:43.440 um okay 31 of you are saying zero 01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:50.160 dollars period 22 of you 50 bucks and 10 percent of you 01:00:47.520 --> 01:00:55.440 must be like some kind of mega ballers because you think it's okay to spend 01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:56.960 between 50 to over a hundred dollars on 01:00:55.440 --> 01:01:02.799 microtransactions in your game are you for real i can't even imagine spending that kind 01:01:00.319 --> 01:01:07.200 of money on microtransactions mlg baby you're not hardcore 01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:11.119 yeah that much is that much i mean i i didn't even spend that much on my car 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:13.920 like look at my car it's not even worth a hundred dollars 01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:20.079 seriously i took it down tried to trade it in new straw pool new straw poll how 01:01:16.319 --> 01:01:20.079 much would you pay for alliance's car 01:01:20.720 --> 01:01:28.079 i bet i bet you could get more than 100 bucks okay so that's okay that's a bit of that 01:01:26.160 --> 01:01:32.000 there's an issue with that though uh you're taking all those phones 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:38.240 what's that one on the bottom oh the pixel oh okay so hey guys uh this 01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.599 is another cool teaser so um those of 01:01:38.240 --> 01:01:44.000 you who aren't subscribed over on Floatplane won't actually know this yet 01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:48.799 but brandon here is going to be working on a first for our channel 01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:51.920 a smartphone camera roundup that why are you why 01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:55.520 why are you doing this this is this is how i'm going to be on the show now 01:01:53.839 --> 01:01:58.799 you're behind the mic yeah that's good stay there stay there because those are 01:01:57.040 --> 01:02:02.880 those are so ridiculous so anyway um 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:08.880 i've never really done in-depth phone camera testing because frankly 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:16.000 i mean you're not a camera person i'm not qualified thank you brandon um so so 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.799 with the pixel 2 and the iphone 8 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:22.000 and to a lesser extent the s8 but definitely 01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:25.040 the note 8 the camera was like the thing they wanted to talk about so 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:31.119 brandon's going to be doing a dedicated video sometime probably next week on Floatplane hopefully um hopefully maybe 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:36.240 the following week really picking these phones apart and figuring out which one 01:02:33.680 --> 01:02:40.400 is more camera for your dollar attached to a phone and you're throwing a dslr 01:02:38.240 --> 01:02:44.960 into the mix aren't you yes oh boy well we'll see oh boy 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:49.200 many many use cases is that almost a separate video i don't know the whole 01:02:46.640 --> 01:02:53.760 like should you still buy you know a a 600 700 dslr i want to talk about that 01:02:52.319 --> 01:02:58.319 you want to talk about it maybe we should just bring you on for like a WAN Show segment or something i don't know 01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:03.599 you know my favorite part about this whole thing is brandon hates smartphone 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:06.880 camera commentary he hates when people talk about it he hates when there's 01:03:04.799 --> 01:03:11.839 videos about the iphone camera he hates it now he has to do it to clarify 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:16.480 i do not hate the iphone and smartphone cameras being good i do however hate the 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:20.160 thousands of articles i've seen over the years about things that are shot on the 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:25.200 iphone being making it seem like the iphone was the 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:29.280 best tool for i get i i get it it's good enough for this use case and it can work 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:34.079 perfectly but there is no one who can sit there and 01:03:32.240 --> 01:03:38.720 tell me that the iphone is a better camera in most use cases for a 01:03:36.640 --> 01:03:42.839 professional situation brandon just your pills i can tell you that i won't have 01:03:40.640 --> 01:03:46.960 any credibility but i can tell you that just to get his blood pressure up 01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:51.280 right he's not even going to make it into work on monday he'll have had like four heart 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:56.319 attacks also i just realized why aren't we 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:58.319 calling the pixel xl the pixel 01:03:56.319 --> 01:04:03.039 the pixico the cool the pixel double xls all right so 01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:06.720 thanks for watching guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:12.599 channel and yes i'm really ending the show on that terrible joke deal with it 01:04:09.200 --> 01:04:12.599 oh man 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:20.799 haha i got the end of show on even worse of a joke 01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:26.119 what's the baddest grammar 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:41.160 yeah halo you can just host a dedicated server we should totally set one up 01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:50.720 we don't really discuss that we're still live you know oh really 01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:57.760 i didn't know that oh and if we set up a server it will be a 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:57.760 legit game surfer so no bad bad alex