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oh all right it's when show time again

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here we got to get our spacing right here there we go

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perfect oh man

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you always push me away from the mic so you're way louder than me no i'm way

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louder than you because i'm way louder than you i pushed you away from the mic because i'm the one who's actually you

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know looking at the show and okay okay here i think we look symmetrical

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you know what here just a second hold on let me let me let me explain let me let

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me explain something something here let's go ahead we'll we'll give you guys some screen capture

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to look at here instead of james there you go okay so uh oh that that really

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doesn't work very well what i'm doing right now okay that's not really the point the point is look at the distance

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here see this distance not enough distance you gotta

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see how much there wasn't there was a no mansplaining rule on the WAN Show

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no no you're allowed to land splain that's we've been through this so we've

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got a lot of great topics for you guys today topic number one where is luke

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which is i'm sure the only one that you actually care about at this point because this freaking can you take those

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off i'm not taking them off oh you have to take them off i feel like jc denton

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he's not using the laser okay so

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ed can you can you came up for us for a second here can you just show them what

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the heck is going on such that james figures he needs wow

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thank you i'm sure glad i had a professional camera operator do that

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that's much appreciated so that right there look at that he knows how to use

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the focus ring and everything i'm holding it

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so that right there is our new laser cutter and these no no no you can't wear them

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the whole show let me tell you the whole the whole sunglasses during a tech video

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podcast thing has been done no one likes

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it my vision is augmented have you even played deus ex this is

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sick this is harsh i have played hold on a

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second which one is uh specific wavelengths like

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yeah it cuts out all the bs and leaves you with awesome

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no can you no no can i at least just continually put

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them on like periodically throughout the show you can only keep them on for a

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maximum of 30 seconds at a time deal

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okay and and they have a 10 minute cooldown

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10 minute cooldown by the way yes i have played deus ex

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um but i only played the widely regarded as kind of crap sequel invisible

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invisible war i actually enjoyed it having not played

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the original and never playing one since i i actually really enjoyed it

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so i said yeah do you really really not want to miss uh

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yeah i really don't want to miss badminton this guy's trying to send me on a freaking also you didn't center our

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camera way to go ed or did he no not quite it needs to go a

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little bit more towards james thank you he's trying to send me on a business

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trip during my badminton night i get one night a week one night a week when i get

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to go out and do something fun and this guy wants to send me to where where are

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you trying to send me la yeah

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one syllable cities

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that's two syllables la oh

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all right so we've got a lot of great topics for you guys today um

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Gigabyte responded via email i hope i hope i can talk about this i think it

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was kind of a it was kind of a statement um so they responded via email to my

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um question about exactly what the heck is going on with motherboard or with

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coffee lake performance from motherboard to motherboard and i've also heard from

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ASUS so we'll be talking a little bit about that um activision has patented

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a technique for social engineering

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micro transactions in games i love it

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it's way more evil than it sounds

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and it sounds pretty damn evil

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so that should give you some idea what else we got

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oh i can talk now yeah yeah yeah ah reportedly apple has cut down

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production of the iphone 8 for november and december buy a large margin cut down

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cut got cut axed and a pixel 2 xl color issue that Linus

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may or may not have experienced i actually want to know

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we'll get there you know what i haven't okay yeah you know why don't we roll the intro we'll talk about it later we'll

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talk about it later wancho and we'll also do that first topic i

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promised where is luke

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i'm wearing the sunglasses now with the 30 seconds doesn't count until the intro hey you have one fan

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kavor x95 likes you lots of people like

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me yeah let's not get ahead of ourselves you have one pen that's not true oh do

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you want me to send you screenshots uh dar bullets james just know

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uh-huh that guy doesn't count that's a child uh die wolf laust where

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is luke um that's because he's pleasantly

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surprised to see me uh zen walrus says you're sick and i think he means like

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disgusting not like good nope that's both those are both good to

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sponsors i forgot we were still on the intro the

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intro screen there i don't know how ed managed how hard is

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this okay this much frame

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all right so why don't we get into coffee like performance first have you have you heard about this have you seen

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this yes i read it so it comes down to a feature yeah that is enabled by default

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on some boards but not enabled by default on others yep so uh ASUS

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statement was actually i'm gonna have a quick look at my email here and make

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we actually know more than we can say because industry

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contacts don't want to get themselves in trouble mind you there's a pretty funny

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story actually about ASUS and being sort of on the record when you

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thought you weren't on the record no no no no put them on no no put them on i'm

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not going to i'm going to put them here uh being on the record when you didn't

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realize you're on the record and saying something that kind of threw Intel under the bus we'll get to that later but um

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first up yes i actually asked do you guys have an official statement on the

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whole auto overclocking thing so the whole discrepancy between

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it was especially visible in heavily multi-threaded tests like cinebench

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between you know one reviewer's results with coffee lake and in others where

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that effectively overclocks the CPU

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right out of the box running all of the cores at the maximum turbo rather than

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just one or two or however many were supposed to be enabled at that

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particular speed so i asked and this is

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my subject line so i think i've absolved myself of any responsibility for this

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being something that can't go out to the public for an official statement from

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ASUS on the whole auto overclocking thing uh but i actually you know what i should

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probably talk about gigabytes statement first so they proactively sent this to

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me and they're basically just like good luck no no i can read this they're

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basically just like hey i uh just watched your rant show

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that's that's cool Gigabyte watches the lan show like you guys are the lan show

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you guys make the news i'm just like blah blah blah like this about it um

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just wanted to comment on the variants and scores there's been some discussion

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over Intel turbo policy and enhanced multi-core performance i'm sure you are

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aware this is a feature that pegs all cores at the max turbo frequency so in

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the case of the 8700k this is 4.7 gigahertz across all cores

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now something that's really happened over the last couple of generations of

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max turbo clock has increased a lot so

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just boosted everything it was just a little bit and the reason they've done

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that is so they can get higher efficiency better battery life stuff

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higher efficiency cpus overall yeah basically so the idea is that Intel's

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going okay well here's what we're comfortable rating it for when all the cores are operating

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for lightly threaded workloads so you can get more performance out of just

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like a game that only utilizes one or two cores or any other single threaded

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application so you can but they wouldn't have rated the CPU for

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4.7 gigahertz on all the cores at the thermal and at the power consumption

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targets that they have so there's going to be a stability issue

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there and that's what this uh person from Gigabyte is hinting at yeah the

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reason they don't don't put it on by default there's potential for a stability issue because

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consuming a lot of power compared to what we might have expected and we

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probably should have investigated that further so we were using an ASUS board

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we were using an ASUS board so we've typically used ASUS boards for our

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launch coverage of any new CPU for

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see how he drinks water to buy himself time um i drink ASUS water but

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the reality of it is that we've found it has really more to do with the

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pre-review support for us uh the fact that we can email anytime night or day

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and we're getting a response within like 20 minutes um and that has really made

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our lives a lot easier when we're trying to iron out what are often

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bugs with the CPU with the RAM with the

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board being able to get new BIOS's that address these or get answers when there

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is no BIOS to address it helps us out a lot and that's the main reason that

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is kind of the statement we get slammed for enabling it then we all disable it then we get

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slammed for not doing it because it's kind of free performance and kind of

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within spec then we place warnings on enabling it

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do you have an opinion on whether or not they should enable it um i'm standing

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here i think you should have it off by default it's still a feature that's

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included it is just a switch you turn on in the BIOS so it's easy to do

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if people as long as people know about it that you're not losing out on that

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free performance you still have it available to you if you want it but how

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would people know about it i would argue that the average user even the average

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user who builds their own computer isn't going to touch a feature called

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multi-core enhancement sounds pretty sweet to me yeah it sounds

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pretty sweet but there's also like a lot of stuff within a BIOS that might seem

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sweet on the surface but you turn it on and your computer doesn't boot anymore

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until you you know because remember you're a novice user you go into your

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manual you figure out what the hella cmos reset is you go find that stupid

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button or header and you you know 15 minutes 30 minutes later you got your

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computer back on you kind of go oh i'm not going to touch any of that stuff anymore it would come down to marketing

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but you can't market something that's just

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that anyway like if you're ASUS or Gigabyte or MSI they've all got over

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auto overclocking tools that are much more sophisticated than that built into

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their boards that are like turning up the speed testing it to make sure it's

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okay turning it up some more testing it again and they want you using that stuff

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so how do those features reconcile with this feature if you have them both on

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lot nah so honestly i don't really plan to because

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i don't really personally recommend either of them as the most optimal way

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to overclock i still believe that doing it manually yourself is the best way to

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overclock so um

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yeah apparently we're slightly out of focus

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people anymore um speaking of which i need a camera person

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right now oh alex is taking the wheel oh wow

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taking wow the focus wheel well hey actually that's not bad damn girl

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that's that's not you should have seen the celie you just

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did i can't do it but he did that okay come show them that weird thing that you

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do give us the celly it weirds me out

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i like that you only do it twice you can do it more but it gets weird

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after that all right are we on to the next one uh yeah let's

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move on to the next topic here um activation i don't want to do that topic

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oh i do though yeah we'll do that topic all right all right all right we'll talk

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about it so this was originally posted by wm groom ak on the forum the original

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article here is actually from rolling stone of all publications well there was

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a more original one but it the site had that slideshow format so i wasn't

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messing with that okay so james

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how on a scale of one to aids plus cancer

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plus leprosy where would you put

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activism activision's research into

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using matchmaking tricks so you guys know

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in-game matchmaking like pairing one party with another using in-game

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matchmaking tricks to sell in-game items

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if i work there if i'm an executive or a shareholder

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this is awesome do you own shares so sick in activation no i don't okay so

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then how do you feel about it from a gaming perspective

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it's all over folks throw in the towel games suck from now on

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this is a brutal direction hold on there is some good news they've actually

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patented the technique so not all games suck hopefully no one else can do this

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just all the huge major titles from this giant company

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so okay let's get into this activision was granted a patent this month for a

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system it uses to influence players in multiplayer games to purchase game items

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through micro transactions so the system uses

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it alters the matchmaking process so typically players are put into games

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together based on a wide variety of factors including skill level internet

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latency and your availability of friends the way it should be you should be

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skilled so that everyone's playing a fun

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round of you know counter go source or whatever it is that

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the kids are playing these days right but now they've added this runecraft

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extra vector yeah this extra vector of mark into the matchmaking process that

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basically tries to get you in the game with people who have bought stuff that

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you haven't bought yet so that psychologically you kind of see them

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using it and you want to buy it and it also so the the

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the article also describes part of the technique being to take inexperienced

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players and intentionally put them in close

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proximity to players who are good at a

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skill that they aspire to be good at and who have an item that appears to be

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related to that skill so let's say that a a really skilled player has like a

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great sniper rifle for example

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um then they're gonna they're gonna pair this player who

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and you can you can tell so much about people from the way that they game

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actually well i mean you can tell a lot about how how they want a game anyway so

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someone's like always playing sniper classes but sucks

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you can tell i don't even think it's skill level aspire to be a sniper no no

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well there's that too there's there's multiple aspects of it right so they

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they'll take like an unskilled sniper who wants to be good at sniping they'll

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put them near a good sniper who has great equipment

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like hat of plus one that they've said

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or whatever premium stuff that they paid for that they paid for

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and kind of watch

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right and then continually retool it and re-optimize

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to get more people buying microtransactions if my

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children ever pay for an in-game item

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i'm cutting them off they're out of the will they're gonna be out dude they're out of the will that's gonna happen

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really soon you guys heard it here first out of the will can i get in there

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because digital like in-game items

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i don't know see we're old school we can be kind of cool we used to just buy a

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game and have the whole game then expansion packs came out and that was

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just bonus and awesome then it all went to and now it's poo

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dlc is just like how you get the whole game okay hold on hold on so

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what i realized when i was talking about cutting my kids out of the will

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is that i i think i've actually bought digital

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items before um they don't know i know i know so they

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won't be cut out of the will but but but if they spend too much on them

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what's too much then they're cut out of the well that can be written in the will too much is yeah too much is um you know

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i think i think more than um

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you know what that is a really good straw poll question

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once okay so i wanna i wanna frame this in a pretty specific manner because

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there's a couple of different ways you can define too much like

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i would take a free-to-play game where the in-game items are purely

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cosmetic and it's not a pay-to-win

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and i would kind of look at it and i'd go you know what buying a skin or two or

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a character here and there to support the developer who's running a

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free-to-play game but has a lot of costs associated with it big time probably

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okay but if we're talking triple a title like

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we're talking like a 69.99 oh yeah 79.99

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aaa title or or worse yet like a collector's edition that came in a tin

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so you've like already spent 130 150 bucks on this thing

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and you can't even put the master chief helmet on because it's actually mini

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right and you run out and you blow like another 50 bucks 100 bucks on it i think

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that is totally different so i want to create a specific scenario

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for you guys because we're talking activision blizzard here so we are not

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talking about free to play games okay you pay for the game

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um so so let's say let's say a 50 game

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just for the sake of argument okay i know that's almost nothing is 50 bucks anymore it's

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either more because it's aaa or it's like 20 30 bucks because it's indie but let's

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say 50 game acceptable amount to spend on micro

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transactions i think you should attach a time frame here

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because if i'm playing wow for like six years and i spend 300

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whatever but if this is a period of six months or something like that okay

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yeah that's fair per year first year okay let's do per year okay so first i i

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for you hardcores out there i'm putting in the zero dollar option okay don't

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worry i'm putting in the zero dollar option hardcores or cheapskates

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okay so i've got uh

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okay while you set that up i want to talk about another thing that this algorithm does that's uh this even just

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takes it to the next level once you do make an in-game purchase so

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they put you in a match with the expert sniper uh you were totally attracted to it you

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ended up buying this sniper rifle once you made that purchase they're then

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going to take actions that make you feel good about that purchase they don't want

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you to regret the purchase so on your next match they're going to put you in a

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game where you're you're not in a close quarters match you're going to be put in

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a game where that purchase is advantageous they're going to put you in blood gulch or whatever a sniper

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friendly match so you can actually when's the last time you played that's

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old school man people like the show i don't even like the old school they like

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the throwbacks i know what it is hell yeah which means it's old school

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that's a classic blood gulch they made that they made that map four different

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times it's in every game every halo game okay anyway they're going to put you in

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blood into a map where twitch chat is flipping out to blood gulch they love it

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wow it's the last online halo game

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okay okay go go go go go fire james fire james okay that guy is too young to know

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what blood gulch is you should be getting an xbox on ebay just so you can

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play it even if you weren't born yet and we need a Linus tech tips halo one

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server booyah agreed that'd be sweet okay

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do you guys you guys would be down i'm like still playing it

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okay i'm not so old school that i am advocating using like the original fatty

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controller that controller sucked you're allowed to use the x controller shill

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gulch shield you know halo 1 is still like thirty

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dollars gulch tip you can still buy it halo one customization is thirty dollars

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it's like the first game that i've toured in forever because i was like i'm not paying thirty dollars for this it's

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terrible terrible um okay all right all right i'll i'ma

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let you finish i'ma let you finish but basically the thing that sucks about

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this is that you can tell from the language and the patent that this is not

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just going to be affecting in-game purchases like skins and aesthetic

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things yeah the language talks about weapons and that just means that the

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developers are going to have a monetary incentive to make it play to win so to

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me that this looks like this is the direction we're all going the thing about this kind of play-to-win is it's

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like a sicker more insidious play to win because

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instead of it being okay instead of it being or did i say play to win pay to

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win instead of me being able to pay more

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to just have better crap than you and walk in and stomp you

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i have to lose to you hold on it'll be it'll be pay more

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and get a fakeo ego boost because they're

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just gonna pair you with crappier players

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i can imagine that when they first roll this out it would trick you when they

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first roll this out you're gonna be on the team you're gonna be on the same team as the guy with the awesome gun but

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then they're gonna find out that it's actually more effective if you're on the opposite team and you just get lit up by

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this guy with the awesome gun and you're tired of getting so pwned that

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that you go and buy the gun yourself and then you get to the awesome feeling of

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wrecking noobs i mean at what point do they then take it a step further and

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they start actually fooling you into thinking you're playing against people

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you're not like what if they could use

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like a neural network to figure out which people in game you actually know

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and which people you don't so they could have you playing against the guy you're

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playing against the guy who's ripping you apart with a sniper rifle from the

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other side of the map okay um or the guy that like literally gets

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out of the banshee and like manages to drop it on you every time oh

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terrible it's all halo all the time it's all halo all the time from now on okay

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um and then in your next game they just

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like overlay that person's real avatar and

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real on-screen name with like this guy and you like destroy him now that you bought your new gun

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do you think they could get that evil why not

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i mean it's just an it's just a digital identity that it act is actually

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ultimately pretty meaningless as far as it goes if they take two randoms who

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don't know each other they just sprinkle bots in

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just sprinkle super advanced bots and that just are just pimped out swagged

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out they got the the guns are shooting hot pink bullets

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is this where we're going holy crap actually this leads us pretty

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squarely into another topic we have does it all right yes

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yes it does speaking of ai that's just so killer it

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can wreck you every time

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remember alphago the deep neural neck net that managed to

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swamp all the world's top alpha or top go players in the last year uh so this

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is uh from gizmodo here there you go

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all right tell me about it okay so alphago the first artificial

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intelligence to defeat a grand master at the game go just got a major upgrade in

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a tournament that pitted ai versus ai

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the regular alphago got completely completely wrecked 100 games to zero by

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the new version of alphago called alphago zero

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why did they call it alphago zero if it gets 100 and not zero

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because it's singularity baby how is zero singular what do you know

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what the singularity is yeah yeah it's like

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converging to zero i'm making this up

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what i'm trying to justify the names you're talking about

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okay the thing that's cool about this is the original alphago

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had a training data set of thousands of previously played go games played by

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humans that were amateurs or professionals like go this is a

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completely unsupervised like reinforcement learning algorithm that

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had no training data set no trading data set it started only with the rules of

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the game go and in three days could beat the original go

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is that insane so it played 4.9 million games against

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itself to acquire the expertise needed to beat

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the original alphago for comparison the original alphago had

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30 million games for inspiration

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wow after 40 days it defeated a more sophisticated version of alphago called

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alphago master and that was the version that defeated the world's best go

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players last year it gets even crazier it did this not

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only is it better it's not even that they just like threw more computing

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power at it it's way more efficient the original alphago master had

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48 tpus or tensor processing units this one

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four four tpus that's an

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order of magnitude more efficient

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now this is like not generally ai at all

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yeah this is playing a game but it's like myth it's it's uh

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yeah okay

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but this thing could wreck you at halo 2. i don't well

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okay so that the okay it'll smash you with banshees every time you're getting

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stuck from across the map no scope headshots

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there's a pistol headshot yeah

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all right uh one more topic before we go into ads uh this was originally posted

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by jamie scone jammies jammiescon

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whatever on the forum and the original oh jamie is gone

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uh the original article is from kitguru.net

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no i don't want your notifications apple reportedly cut down

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iphone 8 production already

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i mean if it if it wasn't a strong enough indication

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that iphone 8 isn't doing particularly well that there were literally no

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lineups like that was a big thing with the iphone 8 launch

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this seems to be

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this seems to pretty much drive the point home apparently

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iphone 8 and 8 plus production has been reduced by about 50

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for november and december which are typically

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pretty uh strong sales months for mobile

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devices and this is apparently the first time apple has reduced iphone production

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so early in the cycle this is really worrying considering like

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the bright side of this would be to assume that all these people who aren't

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buying the 8 are just waiting to buy the 10 but

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but they probably won't even be able to buy the 10. and the other issue is that

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apparently a lot of people are opting for the iphone 7 instead of the eight

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which is frankly a decision that okay a

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makes a lot of sense to me in the first place because the iphone 7 and 8 are

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really really not very different you're getting way more eyes per dollar

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and number two the more people go out there and buy the

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iphone 7 the longer the support cycle we are

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likely to see on that product because and this is this is something that's i

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that actually comes up fairly often when i'm talking about you know what tech

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product you should buy a lot of the time it doesn't work out to be in your best

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interest to go and buy say the most expensive motherboard because a lot of

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the time what can end up happening is because they sell so few units of that

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model it might end up with a very short support cycle and a much smaller install

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base of people to call into tech support and complain if something goes wrong

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they might end up with more compatibility issues down the line because of that smaller install base

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installing a wide variety of hardware to to you know

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find out if there's any issues and report them to the manufacturer

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so owning the like the popular one

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can actually be really good because the iphone 7 here's another thing if there's

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a huge install base even not directly from apple even if we're talking from

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app developers if there's a huge install base of these iphone 7's because apple was effectively

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selling them for two years at full pop or at full speed then you're gonna see

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app developers really focus on optimizing for that phone for a longer

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time into the future as those iphones start to have their

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screens broken or start to be replaced it's just going to take longer before

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you aren't worth investing in anymore so

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the fact that there's this momentum on the iphone 7 becomes sort of a self um

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self-reinforcing positivity snowball and

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the more people realize that the iphone 7 is a great

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choice compared to the eight the more it will be a great choice compared to the

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eight that's where i was coming to that's your positivity

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snowball that's my positivity snowball

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um so i mean i ended up just by chance with a couple of those

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types of devices so the ipad one was a big steaming pile of beta um it it

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didn't end up being supported for very long it was thick the battery life sucked it was super slow iphone 2 did i

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say iphone she said ipad okay good ipad 2

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way better in every way like fantastic and made a ton of sense as a product for

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quite some time because even the ones that came after it were adding things

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like high resolution displays that actually

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ended up hurting battery life as much as they increased the resolution of the

451
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display they ran hotter like the ipad 2 had stuff going for it for like three or

452
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,720
four generations afterwards it wasn't until the air i think that we got one

453
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that was higher resolution and better battery and ran cooler was like better

454
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in every possible way um so my ipad 2 ended up getting

455
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supported almost forever and the same with the ipad or with the iphone 4. and

456
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i ended up with like both of them at the same time i was like this is great apple support

457
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for like four or five years this is awesome um

458
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but it doesn't always work out like that so it's really nice when you end up with something like that and it looks like

459
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:23,279
the iphone 7 could be another one i personally wish it had been the success

460
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,679
because it has a headphone jack but um

461
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:30,480
sorry guys button got the watch oh oh yeah the apple watch what about it

462
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os4 oh you're just upset because you lost that playlist feature yeah so apple

463
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right does not behave in this way every time you have a second gen

464
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:45,120
yeah second gen yeah ed just lost a feature that was deprecated seemingly

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and we have no you know insider knowledge of apple or anything but

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seemingly to make room for a new version of the feature that is only available on

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the new one that has lte connectivity

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so you're just going to buy the new one aren't you what

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you are aren't you are you already wearing it

470
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no did you already buy the new one did you already order it that's crazy are

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you going to the apple store after this weekend

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he's already on the apple store right now yeah i have to get this replaced because i

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have a chip on there oh and i'll sell this one then you'll sell that one and

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get the new are you really gonna get the new one

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of those apple people do you actually need something or you're what can i do for you

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how to where l.a uh oh do i when do i have to decide

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sooner is better late today like are we are we making a thing for us

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there i don't know probably not no let's go with now i don't know we'll

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just going to mao on my favorite savage turkey the maple

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buffalo bacon yes stereotypical yes it's only a it's

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only a two-star two-star hotness level

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but quite frankly you know what was my drawing power anyway do you really think

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i'm more than a two

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out of what wait a minute is this the maple yeah i

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think this is the one i like do they have more than one maple bacon

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it doesn't even offer me anything they might

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wow this is really nice too no mine hey well you're a vegetarian i

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still want to smell the bag here you can have some if you want

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you unbelievable oh yeah this is a new flavor this is

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nice so it's like can at least waft yeah you can walk here

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it's really good you can't you probably won't be able to smell the maple damn that smells good

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you can't swear on the show we've been through this what are you counting as swear words now

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maple maple bacon that's freaking awesome the is it original is what they call it

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leading us you're one of those koozie people a koozie person you don't say cozy you

534
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say koozie oh i i had never heard it said allowed

535
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oh yeah never been to a barbecue um but uh

536
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,920
no one ever invites me to things yeah

537
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,280
i'm going along this weekend uh you should uh hear about it on monday when i

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come back wow speaking of uh you know what hold on

539
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a second we're gonna do our next sponsor spot uh in a little bit

540
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um we'll move on hold on because i i gotta side rail us for a little bit here

541
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you went to wwe this week yeah nobody

542
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:33,680
asked me about that i went to smackdown live i actually have check this out

543
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check this out um here i i sent an email to myself

544
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to remind myself really ask james about

545
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wwe because here here it is here it is so i sent

546
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this to myself on october 17th three days ago because

547
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:57,119
uh i the day after because i i was like super i was super curious

548
00:38:54,160 --> 00:39:01,040
what was wd i mean you're not like a wwe fan right no

549
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:06,160
so you think it's kind of ridiculous i i watched it as a child and then

550
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:10,800
watched it for way longer than i would have because my friend was super into it

551
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,440
you didn't know it was fake really no i'm just joking of course you

552
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,920
know it's fake it's kind of like uh it was kind of slap

553
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:22,240
sticky slapstick there was a couple lol moments watching it live actually

554
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,359
none of the big superstars that i know of were there of course because they're

555
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,880
all retired now like stone cold it's not gonna show up so it was all like no

556
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:31,920
names to me so i felt more like i was at like one of

557
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,240
those mexican wrestling events just because they were all no names and they're doing stupid stuff and one guy

558
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,480
actually had a mexican uh wrestling mask on so that contributed to the feel

559
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:45,119
family fun and uh pretty entertaining

560
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:49,839
how much was it 20 bucks that's why i went

561
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:54,240
it was sweet all right it was sweet so tell me how sweet was it

562
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,200
was it sweet in a this was a great way to turn my brain

563
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,800
off for two hours on a tuesday night way or was it great

564
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:06,079
you know like i'm gonna start finding out who these guys are and following the storylines not a chance it was a great

565
00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:09,359
in the like i get to hang out and like have dinner and spend the evening with

566
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,599
my childhood friend who i only get to see like every quarter kind of way and

567
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:19,440
it was only 20 bucks it was 50 bucks wouldn't have done it no not a chance sorry childhood friend

568
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,839
you're worth it i'd hang out with him without

569
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:28,960
but not 50 bucks just wouldn't went to that with him

570
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:34,079
but yeah it was sweet best part was the uh the voice announcer guy

571
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:37,920
yeah i love that like the ability to like grab the microphone and

572
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:41,440
the you know like let's get ready to rumble kind of guy are we even allowed

573
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,960
to say that i know we can't do it with the intonation he has like that like

574
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,000
trademarked yeah the intonation yeah just say it like stephen hawking style

575
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:53,200
ready to i don't even know if you can say it at all oh my god it's one of those things

576
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:58,000
like the whole um the whole copyright on happy birthday that actually recently

577
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,760
was that one was overturned but where like nobody even realizes that you

578
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,160
you like can't say this stuff because they'll actually go after you you know

579
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that rudolph was invented by coca-cola no

580
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let that bake your noodle for a second huh they also made santa claus red

581
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enjoy coke how about that

582
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got a couple of their HDMI extenders so all these are oh okay yeah these are

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cool i've seen these before these are HDMI over cat5 adapters

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actually run it quite a lot longer than you would be able to so this guy right

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here uh this is the hl10 i want to say

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let me just double check i don't want to say anything incorrect

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or cat6 with zero compression and

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they've got other stuff that'll actually do uh

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wow 390 feet pretty cool

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by the buttons on the front or a remote and you can check out all this cool oh

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the uh boom this is the 390. that's the hd link hl 21 HDMI extender plus matrix

608
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over network is this the one that goes 390 feet um so any receiver connected to

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these videos these products and more at the url shown on screen so that

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seouldirect.com slash Linus it's got that uh

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that new HDMI over ip smell i actually like the smell of new

614
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:26,880
electronics give it a sniff yep

615
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:30,480
it's got that it's it's that fresh pcb smell you know when they when they

616
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manufacture it and then they put it into the bag it stays all sealed in there you

617
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,520
know even if the bag's not sealed even if you can't get it back in the bag

618
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:42,720
after it stays in there it stays in there pretty good

619
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:47,520
right i'm gonna give up on that good good work james there

620
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,240
um that's a tyler drop all right

621
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,560
what else we got here like what's interesting did you know that google's

622
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:59,200
first system auto chip designed in-house is in the pixel 2 that you've been using

623
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:05,200
all week no you didn't know because they just announced it now really there's a

624
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:05,200
chip in there that you don't know about

625
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,839
the pixel visual course this was originally posted by z ramsey on the on

626
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:17,040
the forum and the original article here is from the verge google's first mobile

627
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,319
chip that's not an soc that's an image processor dang it

628
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:25,119
what you're telling me the verge is wrong hold on a second what are these what are

629
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:29,200
they saying okay hold on hold on hold on pixel visual core

630
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,880
soc uh purposeful version of call comes down

631
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:38,079
and another purpose in this case accelerating that

632
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:45,760
okay so my understanding of the definition of an soc is that it has to

633
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,760
have basically all the elements of a

634
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:54,079
of like a more traditional like CPU motherboard

635
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,079
GPU io

636
00:44:54,319 --> 00:45:00,880
wow especially among academics soc is

637
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:04,800
sociology why don't we look for a much more better

638
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:09,040
definition wow

639
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,040
it's pronounced soch

640
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:18,880
yeah i'm gonna have to double check the definition here because i wouldn't think an image processor would be an soc so it

641
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:20,880
integrates all components of a computer

642
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:25,040
or other electronic system may contain digital analog mixed signal and often

643
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:30,319
radio frequency functions all on a single substrate

644
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,920
okay well if they're calling it an soc maybe there's more to this thing than i

645
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,680
necessarily thought but here we go we've actually got a uh we've got a look at it

646
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,960
here so the coolest aspects of the pixel

647
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:45,680
visual core maybe that it's already in google's devices they both have it built

648
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:49,280
in but laying dormant until yes

649
00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:54,079
it's laying dormant until they activate over the coming months so

650
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,560
right now it's used just to process HDR plus

651
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:01,760
stuff way faster faster than you've experienced it it

652
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,680
hasn't been activated yet interesting and that's not all they're

653
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:10,079
actually going to use it for more applications than just that they haven't

654
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,040
told us what but we'll see more image and machine learning

655
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,319
enhancements being added to the pixel 2 over the coming months very interesting

656
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:21,200
so here's a here's a look at it

657
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:23,680
so here's the course here's the link to memory

658
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,640
PCIe

659
00:46:26,839 --> 00:46:31,760
wow huh it's super interesting to me that they

660
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,200
didn't announce this at their made by google hardware event

661
00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:39,359
i guess they didn't have it ready in time but they still ship devices with it

662
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:43,200
they didn't have the the software implementation ready in time so they

663
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,280
just laid low until now you would have thought they would have

664
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:49,520
at least announced it like when reviewers had hands on so

665
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:54,319
so they're saying each of its eight processors has been tailored to handle

666
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:59,359
HDR plus duties resulting in HDR plus performance that is five times faster

667
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:03,280
at one tenth of the energy of current of the current implementation

668
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:07,599
now when they say current implementation there do you think they mean

669
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,920
what your pixel can currently do before this is turned on yeah that's smooth

670
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:16,640
baby so they say they'll enable it as a developer option in the preview of

671
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:17,520
Android oreo 8.1

672
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:23,280
wow and that there's going to third-party

673
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,960
apps will have the ability to handle HDR

674
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,920
photo so we'll see more imaging and machine learning enhancements added to

675
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:33,680
the pixel 2. so the pixel 2 is already getting a pretty good review

676
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:38,720
that went up on Floatplane last night and will be added to

677
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:42,800
youtube i think on sunday is when we're gonna see that video go live so uh right

678
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:47,359
now Floatplane has got uh scrapyard wars

679
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:52,640
parts two and three then tomorrow it's gonna get

680
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:56,640
scrapyard wars part four when youtube gets part two

681
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,920
and it's also got um and you're in scrapyard wars

682
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,640
yeah so am i you're in scrapyard wars kinda

683
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:10,640
you're in scrapyard worth just talking no just the voiceover oh you're the voiceover oh that's nice yes listen oh

684
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:15,440
that's it is nice i like doing that listen up keep your ears peeled if you

685
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:20,880
can peel in here for this whimsical voice um so also over

686
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:25,599
there we've got the MSI vortex g25 review we've got the mass drop vast 35

687
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:30,079
inch curved gaming monitor uh you worked on that one uh we've got our video of

688
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:34,640
the let's have a look here what else have we got over there

689
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:37,040
oh lg wallpaper tv part two wait that's

690
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:41,599
up on youtube now oh first ever sli setup still isn't on youtube so with our

691
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:44,480
voodoo sli that's over there right now and i think that pretty much uh that

692
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,079
pretty much covers it there's some tech quickies as well all right what else we got for topics

693
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:54,400
here oh right uh if you guys want to know how to join Floatplane

694
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:58,160
you should probably go check out this link that i'm about to post in the chat

695
00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:01,520
do you want to move on to our next topic i guess though

696
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:07,359
sorry i was just talking to a prime about an upcoming build guide

697
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:13,359
oh yeah is that the uh the value value gaming build guide with ryzen the ryzen

698
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:16,000
5 best bang for your buck build byed

699
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:22,400
cool i just want to actually be in there yeah so i may have almost screwed up

700
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,839
this build guide but fortunately james had the foresight to listen to

701
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,319
what i was saying and carefully ignore it beginner's mind

702
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,680
beginners beginners yeah you're familiar with the concept no is it like

703
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:38,160
beginner's luck but no beginner's mind is when you're like because you don't

704
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:40,480
know all the minutia you kind of don't take things at face value your question

705
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:47,839
stuff ah anyway this is actually next topic

706
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:51,599
is total full circle for us because it's a kind of part two of a topic that you

707
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:55,839
and i discussed a couple weeks ago so what we had discussed was that senator

708
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,160
al franken submitted like a letter a bunch of questions to apple about their

709
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:03,920
face id technology and now apple has responded and has answers direct to his

710
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,520
questions one of them i put in bold because you

711
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,040
didn't know how the heck apple did this and now we get to know

712
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,720
so here's just a bunch of bullet points i

713
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,839
don't want to say al franken's questions because his question will become obvious

714
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:23,280
when you just hear the answer yeah answer number one face id data including mathematical

715
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,920
representations of your face is encrypted and only available to the

716
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:34,400
secure enclave this data never leaves the device it is not sent to apple nor

717
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:37,040
is it included in device backups cool

718
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:41,920
uh the your face face image is captured or discarded once the representation is

719
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,680
calculated for comparison meaning

720
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,200
that they can never surrender it to the authorities the fbi can't ask for it

721
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:52,640
because apple just never has it um they oh this is cool so ir and depth

722
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,640
images were collected in studies conducted with participants informed

723
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,760
consent so we had we had talked about you know how exactly did they train the

724
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:02,720
bloody thing because they said they used billions of images and Linus was asking

725
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,960
well where the heck did they get these billions of images and it turns out they

726
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:10,160
actually just took them themselves it's not they haven't said that they've

727
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:13,200
taken taken photos of a billion different people that seemed silly they

728
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,960
probably took thousands of photos of hundreds of people i mean they're apple

729
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:21,839
they could conceivably pay every single person on earth like 60 bucks

730
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,200
to or like they could pay a billion people like 60 bucks to take a picture

731
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:29,680
of them send us a selfie yeah um

732
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:35,119
so they took multiple pictures with multiple different types of sensing technology including ir and cool

733
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:39,280
presumably of like 360 views so there you go they are taking security for it

734
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:43,200
pretty darn seriously next topic posted by numlock21 on the

735
00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:46,160
forum this

736
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:54,000
oh boy someone at ASUS actually we know specifically who andrew

737
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:56,000
wu the rog motherboard product manager

738
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,720
someone at ASUS andrew wu is uh in a fair bit of trouble

739
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:05,359
right now this is some serious under bus throwing yeah this is some

740
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:09,760
this is some foot in mouth being run over by the wheel of the bus

741
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:13,520
with the foot in the mouth so the head gets run over too and the foot just gets

742
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,680
further in there yeah like it like the heels up and the wheel rolls over the

743
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:22,240
heel and jams it through the back of you can't even gag because there's too much

744
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,520
foot yeah um so in an interview with bit

745
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:27,359
tech bit tech basically we'll give you kind

746
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:33,359
of the rundown they basically go can you explain in technical detail why

747
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:37,599
coffee lake won't work with z270 motherboards

748
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:41,280
mpm the pm goes oh it's it's Intel's decision bittex says so it's not a

749
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,240
physical limitation Intel said it was to do with the power

750
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:47,440
delivery pm goes not really

751
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:53,200
it power delivery makes a little bit of difference but not much

752
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:58,960
so bit tech goes so what are they referring to the the 20 or so unused pins from before he

753
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:05,520
goes yes so if you wanted an Intel let you you

754
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,920
could make z270 compatible pm goes yes

755
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:12,559
but you would also require an upgrade uh from the management engine a BIOS

756
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:17,599
update until somehow has locked the compatibility

757
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,760
whoa okay um

758
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:29,359
it basically just comes down to stability then until i just did this for visibility so

759
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,760
this is one of those situations where i run into trouble

760
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,599
because i know things that were told to me off the record

761
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:42,559
well well no i'm just it's not about that i'm just

762
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:45,920
messing with you i know things off the record

763
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:50,079
that they're they're not they don't conflict

764
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:54,480
with any of this information because

765
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:57,599
what he said was that here maybe maybe i

766
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,359
can help the audience infer

767
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:02,880
based on what he said because all the information is really in there if you

768
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:07,440
read between the lines so Intel said it was to do with the power

769
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:12,319
delivery and he says not really it makes a little bit of

770
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,319
difference

771
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:19,839
they did change something

772
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:24,400
why did they do it surely Intel would have saved themselves

773
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,960
some cost and changed nothing

774
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,119
if they didn't feel like they had to change something

775
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:36,400
for some reason

776
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:40,880
because if we're going to attack this problem from the tin foil hat mindset

777
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:46,400
of these money grubbing companies don't want to spend any money and they want to

778
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:51,760
take ours surely we can all agree that Intel would

779
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:58,160
have done absolutely nothing if there wasn't some reason that they

780
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:59,200
perceived that they had to do something

781
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,960
so they did something

782
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:08,319
it according to this interview had to do with the power delivery

783
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:17,280
also according to this interview ASUS could make it compatible

784
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:19,440
if Intel wasn't locking it out

785
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:24,880
for some reason may be related to why they did something

786
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:28,559
it's all in the interview i haven't said anything that i wasn't supposed to pass

787
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:34,079
along is there any possible way that we could uh like hack it and make it work

788
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,280
no okay even ASUS can't do it because

789
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:39,119
Intel would have to update emmy okay

790
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:44,160
second question do you think that uh andrew wu here kind

791
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:48,559
of backpedals at the end where he says uh you know it's not that big of a deal

792
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,200
anyway because people who bought uh z270 just 10 months ago when it came out

793
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:56,799
they're probably not likely to be the type of consumer who's going to upgrade anyway it's people with older systems

794
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,119
who are going to upgrade so to me it really has nothing to do with that

795
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:05,440
because you know when um when kaby lake came out

796
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:09,200
you know for a long time once until launches a new CPU for a long time

797
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:14,720
sometimes like right through the entire time it's available you can buy the last

798
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:18,240
generation chipset which actually usually has the same features because

799
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,960
they don't change much if they don't have to um you can you can buy those old

800
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:28,160
ones for a little bit cheaper so if you wanted a z170 board with a 7700k you

801
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:32,559
would get overclocking unlocked for your k-series

802
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,280
chip you'd get just as many SATA ports you'd get this you get that

803
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,880
and overall performance would in most cases

804
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:46,480
be very similar and someone's car alarms go off oh no someone set off the actual

805
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,319
alarm is that a 101 or is that here

806
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,760
do you mind investigating thank you sir

807
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,400
the alarms are going off in here uh yeah so sorry about that guys we getting

808
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,720
stolen um

809
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,400
this is a job for laser james

810
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:05,520
ha ha they laughed at me

811
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:10,760
they're still laughing at you that's why i'm here

812
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:19,920
you it looks like my work here is done

813
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:25,040
good work laser james i have an unblockable soil

814
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:26,880
so anyway um

815
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:30,400
from this interview reading between the lines of this interview

816
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,480
they probably could have made it compatible there is some reason related to the

817
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:42,240
power delivery that they decided not to and not only decided not to but also

818
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,599
decided to do actual work on z370 at a

819
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:49,760
great expense now do i necessarily think then that this

820
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,799
makes Intel some kind of a white knight no

821
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:57,280
because what they have also done is they've released only a single 300

822
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:02,559
series chipset z370 the highest priced one in their

823
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:08,559
stack so you don't even have the option to buy you know like uh

824
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,200
an 8400 for example and pair it with a cheapo board because it because it

825
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:15,359
doesn't it's not unlocked for overclocking anyway so

826
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:20,240
yeah that's pretty greasy are they clearly trying to extract more value

827
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:27,280
from the customer yeah if they felt bad about it they would have done like the bare minimum like just like

828
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:32,319
almost at cost okay like eating it so if they had no margin on the on the mobos

829
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:37,920
all right so they're they're clearly trying to you know you know do corporate things

830
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:42,079
you know the raw is you know average uh cart price or whatever the those metrics

831
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:46,079
that e-tailers look for the drive attach you know that kind of

832
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:50,640
stuff they're clearly doing that but i'm also not necessarily one of the

833
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:55,119
people holding a torch going you should be able to plug a coffee lake

834
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,359
into a z270 because there does appear to

835
00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:01,119
be an actual physical change that they made that

836
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:06,400
they felt was necessary for the most stable and optimal operation um honestly

837
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:10,280
i think one of the big reasons that we only got z370 is Intel was fully aware

838
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,839
that coffee lake supply was going to be extraordinarily limited and they figured

839
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,760
well if people like if we can't keep them on shelves

840
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:23,440
anyway then we might as well sell them to the people that we're gonna go out there and

841
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,760
spend the most on the best chipset and the top of the line well that's not what

842
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:31,680
he's saying he's saying that people who are just ready to upgrade who didn't upgrade to

843
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,079
z270 can upgrade now

844
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:38,160
but they're gonna have to do that to great expense yeah i mean that's that's

845
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:41,680
that's his whole thing and i'm not i'm making my i'm drawing my own conclusions

846
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,040
here about what exactly Intel was doing with their strategy

847
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:49,040
so i'll leave it to you guys to sort of come up with your own uh

848
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,319
your own answers here but i do want to show you your own answers to something

849
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:57,280
we discussed earlier let's go ahead and pull up our micro

850
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:00,160
transactions poll from earlier in the show

851
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:04,640
fifty dollar game how much is it acceptable to spend per year on micro

852
01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:08,720
transactions so first uh alex how much per year is it acceptable to spend

853
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:13,119
one fifty dollar game nothing nothing okay so

854
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,359
you are actually the second most popular

855
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:20,400
answer okay 38 of our voters think it's okay to

856
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,119
spend up to ten dollars on a fifty dollar game

857
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:29,319
so like a little treat it's a little something for yourself some horse armor you know yeah

858
01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:29,319
um

859
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:41,680
canadian that's like that's like six how many rubles is that

860
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,440
um okay 31 of you are saying zero

861
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:50,160
dollars period 22 of you 50 bucks and 10 percent of you

862
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:55,440
must be like some kind of mega ballers because you think it's okay to spend

863
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,960
between 50 to over a hundred dollars on

864
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,799
microtransactions in your game are you for real i can't even imagine spending that kind

865
01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:07,200
of money on microtransactions mlg baby you're not hardcore

866
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:11,119
yeah that much is that much i mean i i didn't even spend that much on my car

867
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,920
like look at my car it's not even worth a hundred dollars

868
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:20,079
seriously i took it down tried to trade it in new straw pool new straw poll how

869
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:20,079
much would you pay for alliance's car

870
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:28,079
i bet i bet you could get more than 100 bucks okay so that's okay that's a bit of that

871
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:32,000
there's an issue with that though uh you're taking all those phones

872
01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:38,240
what's that one on the bottom oh the pixel oh okay so hey guys uh this

873
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,599
is another cool teaser so um those of

874
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:44,000
you who aren't subscribed over on Floatplane won't actually know this yet

875
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:48,799
but brandon here is going to be working on a first for our channel

876
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:51,920
a smartphone camera roundup that why are you why

877
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:55,520
why are you doing this this is this is how i'm going to be on the show now

878
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:58,799
you're behind the mic yeah that's good stay there stay there because those are

879
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:02,880
those are so ridiculous so anyway um

880
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:08,880
i've never really done in-depth phone camera testing because frankly

881
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:16,000
i mean you're not a camera person i'm not qualified thank you brandon um so so

882
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,799
with the pixel 2 and the iphone 8

883
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:22,000
and to a lesser extent the s8 but definitely

884
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:25,040
the note 8 the camera was like the thing they wanted to talk about so

885
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:31,119
brandon's going to be doing a dedicated video sometime probably next week on Floatplane hopefully um hopefully maybe

886
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:36,240
the following week really picking these phones apart and figuring out which one

887
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:40,400
is more camera for your dollar attached to a phone and you're throwing a dslr

888
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:44,960
into the mix aren't you yes oh boy well we'll see oh boy

889
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:49,200
many many use cases is that almost a separate video i don't know the whole

890
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:53,760
like should you still buy you know a a 600 700 dslr i want to talk about that

891
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:58,319
you want to talk about it maybe we should just bring you on for like a WAN Show segment or something i don't know

892
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:03,599
you know my favorite part about this whole thing is brandon hates smartphone

893
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:06,880
camera commentary he hates when people talk about it he hates when there's

894
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:11,839
videos about the iphone camera he hates it now he has to do it to clarify

895
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:16,480
i do not hate the iphone and smartphone cameras being good i do however hate the

896
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:20,160
thousands of articles i've seen over the years about things that are shot on the

897
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:25,200
iphone being making it seem like the iphone was the

898
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:29,280
best tool for i get i i get it it's good enough for this use case and it can work

899
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,079
perfectly but there is no one who can sit there and

900
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,720
tell me that the iphone is a better camera in most use cases for a

901
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:42,839
professional situation brandon just your pills i can tell you that i won't have

902
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,960
any credibility but i can tell you that just to get his blood pressure up

903
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:51,280
right he's not even going to make it into work on monday he'll have had like four heart

904
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:56,319
attacks also i just realized why aren't we

905
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:58,319
calling the pixel xl the pixel

906
01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:03,039
the pixico the cool the pixel double xls all right so

907
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,720
thanks for watching guys we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad

908
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:12,599
channel and yes i'm really ending the show on that terrible joke deal with it

909
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,599
oh man

910
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:20,799
haha i got the end of show on even worse of a joke

911
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,119
what's the baddest grammar

912
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:41,160
yeah halo you can just host a dedicated server we should totally set one up

913
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:50,720
we don't really discuss that we're still live you know oh really

914
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:57,760
i didn't know that oh and if we set up a server it will be a

915
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,760
legit game surfer so no bad bad alex
