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you never forget your first GPU the good memories you had and the bad

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but all good things must come to an end I don't want to play with you anymore

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or must they can an old GPU still game last summer we looked at the

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eight-year-old 780 Ti shortly after NVIDIA announced that they would drop

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driver support for it and found that it was still a pretty capable card and it's

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far from the only GPU on the market that might have the grunt to play games but

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is no longer receiving active support and with most modern games now targeting

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the latest generation of consoles we set out to find out just how screwed over

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you are if the last time you got a driver update people other than your

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rear dance still used Facebook and to find out how screwed I would be if I

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at the link below we began our investigation by plopping these five

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gpus onto our ryzen 5800x test bench and

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picking 25 AAA titles from the last few

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years and boy did this ever get interesting fast now some ground rules

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when we call a title playable in this video we mean that it runs at 1080p on

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the minimum settings available in game without any hacky tweaks with a stable

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average frame rate of greater than 30 FPS yellow means that we were able to

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launch the game but it walked more than ran and red means that it wouldn't

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launch or it would crash okay we'll start by revisiting the 780 Ti that now

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has both of its feet firmly in the driver support grave out of the 25 games

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we tested it was able to play 16 of them without issue and except for do maternal

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in dirt 5 all of the titles it couldn't run are from 2021 or later so even

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though you aren't getting game-ready driver releases you're actually still in

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a pretty good spot as long as you're not dying to play new hits like Halo

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infinite Elden ring or God of War but what if we go older the GTX 480 came out

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three years earlier in 2010 and it received its last driver in 2018 to

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provide optimal gaming experience for Far Cry 5 and wow did this everything

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age like fine milk out of the 25 games we tested it only managed five of them

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all of which were either amongst the oldest in our suite or more basic

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free-to-play and Esports titles now I

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confess we included this one mostly out of morbid curiosity but next up is the

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beastly power guzzling Radeon HD 6990

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despite being released 11 years ago its paper specs indicate that it should have

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about the same horsepower as a 1050 TI unfortunately

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it's just as bad as Team Green worse actually since it can't really run

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shadow of the Tomb Raider and draws almost 400 watts

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just like life the older we get the less we can play right how about we turn our

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games to something a little newer like our new cable ties at lttstore.com so

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many pretty colors right and the R9 380x

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a couple of months before NVIDIA pulled support for the 780 Ti AMD did the same

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for its substantially newer 200 300 and

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fury series gpus and this caused quite a

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stir given that the 380x in particular was released just in late 2015. though

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In fairness I can kind of see why AMD didn't want to support it since not a

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lot of people bought it it was priced as an upper mid-range card and honestly for

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the performance didn't make a ton of sense the mid-2010s were pretty rough

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for poor old AMD but look at this

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except for just three games this thing rides baby this card is only slightly

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more performant than a 1050 TI just like

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the HD 6990 so why has the game

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compatibility done a 180 they're both from AMD well two main reasons one is

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that the 6990 is a whack-ass card having

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two gpus on the same PCB but the bigger

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reason is feature support the 380x isn't

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getting new drivers sure but it does support DirectX 12 which is a

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requirement for many newer games or at least it kind of does thing is we

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often talk about DirectX as if it's a single monolithic thing but really it's

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more of a collection of apis that Microsoft developed way back in 1995 to

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help with multimedia development especially game programming it includes

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tools for developing for sound 2D applications text rendering maybe you've

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heard of X input for controllers they're all part of DirectX and what's great

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about these industry standard tools is that barring any unforeseen bugs a

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compliant piece of Hardware running a compliant driver should be able to run a

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compliant piece of software or game without special tweaks within this Suite

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of apis then is direct 3D now obviously

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a game that has great 3D Graphics but no

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sound and no controller support wouldn't be a very good game so you can't say

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that one API is more important than the rest but typically Microsoft does align

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the naming of each version of DirectX with the accompanying version of direct

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3D which is why our DirectX 12 380x

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handled newer DirectX 12 games so well

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at least to the best of its geriatric abilities but Linus you might

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it says right here that the GTX 480 also

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supports DirectX 12. why can't it play

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all of my DirectX 12 games

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here's the thing software development never really stops

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and many of the apis within DirectX 12

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have received significant updates since they launched and that includes direct

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3D these updates are called feature levels and they're a good thing they

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provide new tools and new functions for developers to use and Gamers to enjoy

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but while the newer feature levels are inclusive of the older levels meaning

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that your new GPU can almost certainly run your older games

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sometimes a new feature level will contain forward-looking functionality

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that requires new Hardware in order to be effectively utilized or even to run

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at all this is where our soup gets a little murky direct 3D 11 which was

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released with Windows 7 as part of DirectX 11 covers feature levels 9 1 to

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12 1. direct 3D 12 came with Windows 10

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as part of DirectX 12 and spans feature levels 11 0 to 12 2 and Beyond so you

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see that how there's a little bit of overlap there that means that while the

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480 is technically a DirectX 12 GPU it

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only supports the most basic 11-0 feature level of direct 3D that means

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anything that's been added in the four feature levels that have come since are

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unsupported and making matters more complicated this card is so old it

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doesn't actually have full support for the highest feature level of DirectX 11

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either so in a nutshell that DirectX number

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really doesn't tell you the whole story it's actually a GPU's compliance with

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more modern feature levels that will make it compatible with newer games and

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you can see this in our results for the GTX Titan black Wild games did run

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better its compatibility was actually identical to the 780 Ti because it's

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running the same physical Hardware architecture and the same drivers so any

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game that requires a feature that your car doesn't support pretty much puts you

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up poo creek without a paddle sort of if you're not happy with the drivers that

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AMD has left you with for example you might say well why don't we just make

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our own and that's exactly what the gaming community did these are pretty

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cool but before we dive in they are not official drivers and we can't guarantee

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that you won't encounter major issues nor can we personally certify that these

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drivers are completely safe to download and install but from our point of view

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it's your Hardware you can do what you want just like we do what we want an

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emulate games the 100 legal way get

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subscribed so you don't miss that video now AMD has gotten a pretty bad rap in

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the past for releasing poorly optimized drivers especially for their older cards

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for example the final drivers for the 380x play Halo infinite a title that the

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card should theoretically support if DirectX compliant charts or anything to

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go by but play it like this

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yeah this history of bad drivers spurred on development by the community to

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create drivers that better serve the hardware and respect the customers who

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bought these cards and the ones we're going to use to fix this issue are

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referred to as nimes drivers or ever

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enemy amerenemy amereneme and my name

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ambernim nimes drivers or amronim Zone

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drivers and they work great look at that

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we can play Halo infinite now in fact we

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can play all of the games that were giving us issues on the 380x and

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according to users of these modded drivers we should even expect big

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improvements in performance for applications that use both opencl and

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opengl for our part though we didn't find much difference in performance in

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the games we tested but fellow YouTuber budget builds officials showed that the

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10 year old AMD HD 7870 which is

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actually based on a very similar architecture to this card can run games

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like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Halo infinite rather well which is very cool

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another great thing about these drivers is that the really easy to install no

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red edits or editing INF files required and they don't seem to break any

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anti-cheat software there are also other workarounds for DirectX 12 support using

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dxvk or d3dvk you can use a compatibility layer to translate DirectX

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12 API calls to Vulcan which this card

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supports and is pretty much how proton works on Linux though in this case you'd

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actually be doing it on Windows we decided against testing this since the

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scope of this video had already crept pretty high but let us know if you've

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had success or if you'd like to see a follow-up about that it should also be

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noted that these drivers while impressive do have their limits they're

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not going to turn your Hardware into a magic card that gets double the FPS and

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all of a sudden supports DirectX Ray tracing or anything and we weren't able

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to find any equivalent for NVIDIA users at least for now but for team red users

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they have the potential to improve performance stability and especially

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compatibility which is great so if you

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need something to tide you over until price is settle you can rest assured

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that until DirectX 12 ultimate features become standard you can expect pretty

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solid compatibility for a couple of more years even with an older card and solid

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