WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:07.279 so Intel just launched their brand new code name Broadwell EP based zons I mean 00:00:04.920 --> 00:00:14.719 these things are bananas the top ofth line one has 22 cores 45 Megs of cash a 00:00:11.840 --> 00:00:20.840 quad Channel ddr4 memory controller and best of all did I mention that we've 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:22.199 already got one no I didn't because that 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:25.640 would be a lie we have 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:34.800 two 00:00:34.800 --> 00:00:40.760 tunnel bear is the easy to use VPN service that lets you use the web as 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:46.520 though you're in one of 20 different countries learn more and try tunnel bear 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:49.879 for free at the link in the video 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:54.440 description now as impressive as the E5 00:00:49.879 --> 00:00:56.320 2699 V4 might be under the hood CPUs are 00:00:54.440 --> 00:00:59.960 never really much to look at physically but that won't stop us from 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:05.680 investigating some of the differences between this and the older haswell-based 00:01:02.800 --> 00:01:09.439 V3 processors so first of all they've redesigned the heat spreader I don't 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:13.000 know exactly what the engineering reason for these little flanges that come out 00:01:11.240 --> 00:01:17.200 into the corners are but if I had to guess I would say it would be to 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:22.240 transfer the compact pressure of the CPU heat sink onto the pads and the pins in 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:27.200 the socket below more evenly and then the other thing that they've changed is 00:01:23.960 --> 00:01:30.000 it no longer overhangs the socket and 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:35.680 it's actually closer to the size of a desktop chip than the previous Zeon were 00:01:32.759 --> 00:01:39.159 with these like Ultra super mega wide heat spreaders on them now there are 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:44.280 some similarities here and this will be good news for high-end desktop 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:48.200 Enthusiast users or workstation users who are not necessarily going to drop I 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:54.320 think this one's like $4500 on a 22 core model but might be 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:59.360 interested in a high core count model and that is that it uses the same 2011 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:04.119 contact pads on the bottom and is therefore socket compatible with LGA 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:09.399 20113 meaning that as long as your motherboard maker provides a BIOS update 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:14.040 this will be a dropin replacement for the older v3s and even desktop 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:18.800 processors assuming you've got a board that will support it so naturally then 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:25.959 the first thing I'm going to do is throw it on my gaming desktop test bench and 00:02:22.920 --> 00:02:28.239 see how it goes but before we do that I 00:02:25.959 --> 00:02:33.800 want to get some oh did I just die that was quick and anyway before we do that I 00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:39.519 want to get some baseline numbers on a 5960x extreme Edition desktop processor 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:45.319 so we have something to compare this brand new top-of-the-line 22 core 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:50.080 against Benchmark wise I'll be doing a very very limited set so we'll be 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:55.200 running Crisis 3 to represent gaming we'll be running cinebench as well as W 00:02:52.640 --> 00:03:00.640 Prime so with our Baseline numbers run all that's left to do is find out if our 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:02.760 motherboard has a BIOS update we can't 00:03:00.640 --> 00:03:07.519 tell because ASUS and for everyone for that matters BIOS update release notes 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:13.480 are notoriously terrible so all we can do now is update to the latest one tear 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:18.400 the system apart and give it a shot all right moment of 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:30.319 truth yeah uh this is not looking like it is 00:03:27.920 --> 00:03:37.239 going to work we're getting a post code 53 maybe it will 00:03:33.239 --> 00:03:40.840 change and no but that's okay because 00:03:37.239 --> 00:03:43.720 this is just a minor setback Broadwell e 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:49.680 the Enthusiast desktop equivalent for Broadwell EP is not set to land for 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:53.040 however long I actually have no idea so it makes sense I guess that some of the 00:03:51.239 --> 00:03:57.560 more desktop oriented boards would not have Broadwell EP support but that's 00:03:54.599 --> 00:04:04.840 okay because we have a system that definitely does 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:08.200 this is eight Gamers 1 CPU the Michael 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:11.040 Bay style sequel to seven Gamers 1 CPU 00:04:08.200 --> 00:04:16.239 it's bigger it's better it's better and it's also deceptively named because in 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:21.040 addition to actually running two CPUs because come on quite frankly if you've 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:25.960 got a workload that can benefit from 22 cores and 44 threads did I mention that 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:31.800 CP hyperthreading then you've probably got a workload that can benefit from 44 00:04:28.840 --> 00:04:38.199 cores and 88 thread so we're going to be using this bad boy to deceptively put 00:04:34.440 --> 00:04:41.759 two CPUs in and also deceptively run up 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:43.320 to 10 gaming VMS but it's going to be a 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:47.919 little bit different because this chassis supports and you'll see here 00:04:49.880 --> 00:04:57.039 hopefully there we go 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:59.520 supports eight video cards in it sort of 00:04:57.039 --> 00:05:07.080 advertised configuration but thanks to to its 11 PCI e6x slots on board 10 GB 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:12.840 networking dual 10 gbit networking I am planning to put an additional two cards 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:15.800 in here to hopefully get 10 gaming VMS 00:05:12.840 --> 00:05:20.680 running and streaming using steam in home streaming to 10 different clients 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:25.160 all over the building instead of having everyone Tethered to the system this 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:30.520 time so all we've got to do then is apply the latest BIOS update and throw 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:35.319 the CPUs in here for our testing but before we put the 22 cores 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:43.199 in that machine I actually had to pull out the 8 Zotac gtx980 TI amps and 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:47.800 replace them with just one Titan X so I could get an Apples to Apples comparison 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:53.759 against my top-of-the-line desktop 5960x the cool thing here is that this 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:57.720 is 218 course the previous Flagship before that the flagship E5 was a 12 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:00.600 core we actually have one of those in Ed's machine maybe let me know in the 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:05.800 com comments if you'd like to see a generation by generation comparison 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.800 there and so we've gone from 12 to 18 to 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:12.240 now 22 cores but and this is really 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:14.680 interesting the 2699 V4 that we have 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:18.840 actually has 24 physical cores on it meaning that if they were to create an 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:23.479 additional 24 core skew and yields improve or whatever they potentially 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:26.680 could which is pretty cool so we ran through the same benchmarks chis of 3 00:06:24.840 --> 00:06:30.440 Center bench and W Prime but it should be noted at this time that W Prime no 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:34.120 matter how many threads I set it to isn't really scaling so I might just 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:41.599 leave that out so with that out of the way then all right let's put some 22 00:06:36.840 --> 00:06:41.599 core CPUs in here let's Lock and 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:54.919 Load Here We Go 44 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:57.639 oh dang it doesn't matter how 00:06:54.919 --> 00:07:02.879 experienced I get at this stuff I still forget to plug in the 00:06:59.960 --> 00:07:02.879 power supply 00:07:03.479 --> 00:07:13.360 sometimes okay try that 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:13.360 again Lock and Load 44 00:07:15.400 --> 00:07:22.680 cores hilariously that's not nearly as loud as it was when we had the default 00:07:19.840 --> 00:07:27.960 fans in here I actually posted a uh a periscope stream of me turning it on for 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.960 the first time it was 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:35.479 deafening please turn 00:07:35.479 --> 00:07:40.639 on oh 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:46.840 hello hey hey wow that was the longest 00:07:43.840 --> 00:07:49.240 post I've ever seen in my 00:07:46.840 --> 00:07:55.400 life okay then let's uh get into the BIOS here what the hell was 00:07:53.039 --> 00:08:02.759 that it's like they want me to have a freaking heart 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:02.759 attack 44 core machine not turning 00:08:03.440 --> 00:08:11.360 on jeez why is it that my stress is your 00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:13.919 entertainment Hey where's my bio 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:23.560 screen okay so that's it video 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:23.560 card is still detected all good in the 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:35.680 hood wow that my friends is what 40 4 cores 00:08:31.440 --> 00:08:39.599 88 threads looks 00:08:35.680 --> 00:08:41.839 like just like that stock speed of this 00:08:39.599 --> 00:08:46.200 puppy actually not much higher than the previous one in fact I think it's a 00:08:43.599 --> 00:08:51.279 touch lower but you do get architectural improvements from going from Haswell to 00:08:49.040 --> 00:08:55.839 Broadwell for the microarchitecture of the CPU 00:08:52.640 --> 00:08:58.880 itself um and let's see what that 00:08:55.839 --> 00:09:01.839 translates to so we'll fire up uh let's 00:08:58.880 --> 00:09:08.120 do C bench is our first run here cuz I guarantee 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:10.320 you none if or almost none if any of you 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:13.680 have ever seen a cine bench run that looks like 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:26.760 this and 00:09:23.880 --> 00:09:32.360 done over 5,000 points 50 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:37.839 24 unfreaking 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:42.839 real I certainly have never seen anything like it let's run it again just 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.839 cuz Hey it doesn't take very long 00:09:42.959 --> 00:09:51.839 right so CPU usage 100% across 44 cores 00:09:49.399 --> 00:10:00.160 88 threads yeah whatever no big 00:09:55.880 --> 00:10:02.560 deal but can it run crisis only one way 00:10:00.160 --> 00:10:08.640 to find out okay so while I haven't run the Benchmark yet I think I can say with 00:10:05.760 --> 00:10:14.680 a fair degree of certainty that yes yes it can because all tabbing out reveals 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:16.640 that Crisis 3 is utilizing 00:10:14.680 --> 00:10:22.320 5.6% of this CPU six C oh sorry 6 point 6.4 is what 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:28.200 we peaked at there well whoa how is that even 00:10:26.079 --> 00:10:32.360 possible okay it's actually using a reasonable amount of it you can see most 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:38.839 of it's on this one random core right here but uh there are some other other 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:45.680 cor oh and it fell back down again all right so let's do this let's run the 00:10:42.040 --> 00:10:45.680 bench can it run 00:10:55.480 --> 00:11:03.279 crisis I don't know what crisis 3's music sounds like die you can die too 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:08.120 you can die too just jump over this thing I kind of screwed up my jump there 00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:10.760 that's okay boom so all that's left now 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:15.480 is a bit of a wrap up yes it can play crisis it's a silly question of course 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:20.800 it can it's got about the power of multiples of our highest end desktop 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:25.560 processor in it but it's only really truly utilized in more multi-threaded 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:30.360 workloads like for example cin bench that is highend 3D rendering or in a 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:36.120 heavily virtualized environment like what I have planned for it in terms of 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:40.680 power consumption and temperatures once again I'm impressed in spite of the 22 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:45.000 cores under the hood our total system power consumption at idle is around 200 00:11:42.839 --> 00:11:49.800 Watts remember that includes those beefy fans over there and our load power 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:55.279 consumption is around 500 watts with ID to 64 running Full Tilt in the 00:11:53.680 --> 00:11:59.720 background let's go ahead and pull that up and our load temperatures even with 00:11:57.560 --> 00:12:05.920 these goofy coolers I mean they're good coolers but they're not amazing is under 00:12:02.680 --> 00:12:07.399 50 degrees it does help to be able to 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:11.279 spread out the cores when you've got lots and lots of cores you have a larger 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:15.480 heat source so it's a little bit easier for the heat to 00:12:12.920 --> 00:12:20.040 transfer so I think that pretty much wraps it up what was the point of this 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:24.600 video Well Point number one is holy [ __ ] that's cool Point number two is that 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:29.880 while this is not something you're going to be running in your desktop you know 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:35.120 now the thing to not about these kinds of Technology showcases is that all this 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:39.760 stuff eventually does trickle down I mean remember 12 core like two and a 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:45.440 half years ago was the topof the line for servers and now the rumor is that 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:50.680 Broadwell e the desktop version of this is going to have a 10 Core Extreme 00:12:46.920 --> 00:12:55.000 Edition so uh there you go it's a sight 00:12:50.680 --> 00:12:57.639 of what's 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