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welcome to the belated live stream guys I'm sorry we ran quite late today we had

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a number of complications as you may or may not have noticed we've had some

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changes in scenery over the last little while where slick and I were streaming

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from my garage and then we were streaming from my garage but a different

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part of my garage because we had torn apart the live stream set in order to

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make room for our Intel build guide then I think we went back to the usual live

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stream spot but I actually am not 100% sure about this then we were gone and we

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were in Taiwan and we did no live stream and now I'm here slick is not here he is

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on a plane right now he's probably actually he's probably Landing sometime

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soon so I should just be like hey why

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aren't you at work but then he'll probably be like hey I go to sleep and

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I'll be like what you have to sleep you don't even sleep um and then the

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conversation will kind of go downhill from there but um but yeah so he's going

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to be home very very soon but he's not able to join me this time and as you

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guys may or may not have noticed we've got a bit of a change of scenery here so

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I'm going to shift a little bit this way no I want this way yeah this way okay

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I'm still under the microphone should still all be good but uh yeah we've got

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a little bit of a change of scenery we are at the new lonus tech tips HQ which

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I did a tour of oh crap do I have I'm

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not monitoring the stream or anything am I let's see call slick put him on the

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stream um so yeah we are in the new

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Linus Media Group digs which I showcased

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in a giveaway video not that long ago so if you've seen that then great if you

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haven't seen that then uh you haven't seen it maybe I'll do a tour maybe I'll

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do a formal tour of it once we have it set up somewhat properly so this is

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where we'll be filming all of our unboxings from now on as well as all of

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our well all of our other videos because quite frankly I am so tired of having

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lonus Media Group in my house taking over my life uh you guys have no no idea

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how much space it takes up with all the computer stuff all the cases all the

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workstations I mean walk around your house and then picture you have to have

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anywhere between four and five people with like workstations set up and then

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you have to have video sets and like try to figure out where those would go and

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then imagine you have a one-year-old baby who gets into everything and cats

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that get into everything Rumble has been so annoying since we moved the company

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to uh to my house so he is he has been a very uh very very

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challenging piece of work so let's get into some topics here we're going to do

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a lot more Q&A than we usually do because I don't have uh the sort of

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gorgeous um you know towering presence of slick to converse with me so I guess

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I'll have to talk to you guys which is which is great uh which is exactly what

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I wanted to do uh right now so

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yeah moving right along uh giveaways yes

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the meme content so we had a meme contest on the lineus tech tips forum

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and the winners have been announced however the original idea was that we

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were giving away a copy of Mass Effect 2 now what happened was that copy of Mass

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Effect 2 accidentally got sort of kicked

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in the head somewhere along the line someone like uh someone janked it

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somehow or whatever else so we don't have it anymore so what I did was I got

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my hands on three never settle bundles which means you're going to get Crisis

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3 Tomb Raider BioShock Infinite something like that so you're going to

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get a never settle bundle can't remember exactly which games are in it but they're good don't worry they're part of

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never settle and we picked three winners because I was at computex and someone

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handed me three never settle coupons and they were like hey here you go and I was

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like hey I already have these games cuz I'm lonus um so I have like lots of

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copies of these games well no I have enough for me and I have enough for slick and enough for diesel so I've

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already I already had three at some point so I was like oh well this is

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great because now I have a prize for the meme contest so I'm going to show you guys the winning memes uh slick never

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got back to me so he got no votes in terms of the winners so I picked the

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winners so if you guys don't like it then you can email um I don't care at

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docomo uh but they were the ones that sort of tickled me the most so I uh I

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decided to go with these ones here we go winner number

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one text story love it so puppet you are

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a winner in fact I will PM you right now

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and tell you that you are a winner thank you for playing you win send me a

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message congrats you win the meme

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contest ping me back and I'll give you

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your code pardon the typos puppet if you're watching but there you go you won

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you get a never settle bundle from AMD so good job um next up we

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have okay yeah Twitter's confusing me right now so next up we

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have I'm going to load this one up before I actually navigate to it this

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don't know what to do with you if you don't press enter after a link then it isn't a link so that makes a gosh darn

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ton of sense uh so okay not the O forums one that one I actually didn't like that

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much but these uh this other one it was from hk6 this is from I believe Slick's first

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live stream or second live stream this is from when he broke his uh well he

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didn't break anything but he hurt his shoulder quite badly in a bike accident

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and uh I I don't know this just this just made me laugh this picture's very

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caption and part of what I liked about this one is that he actually went to the

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trouble to dig up this picture from one

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of the very early live stream so either either he's one of those people who sort

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of obsessively screenshots anything that's amusing as they go through life

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which is great uh or he actually remembered this moment somehow and uh

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anyway that that made me laugh so I'm going to message hk6 right now let him

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know that he's a big winner uh winner meme

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contest good work uh message me back

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just want to make sure that he's actually still active on the Forum or whatever else and that

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to get your prize uh because otherwise

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we can save the prize for someone else who's actually still active on the Forum

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because being active on the Forum is What winners do next up we've got this

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one I mean this one I just this couldn't not win so this is the lonus Media Group

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um Return of the Jedi thing and I mean

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honestly this one probably shouldn't have won because there are clearly

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people in this picture who are not members MERS of lonus media

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groupan and I think it's actually very debatable whether or not my cat is

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actually a member of lus Media Group but uh the thing that the thing that really

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made this one work for me was the uh was the diesel as Princess Leia because um

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well that's just totally inappropriate and I love it so let's go ahead that's a

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young man Matt so we're going to send young man Matt his message

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congratulations you win the meme contest and thank you every everyone for

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playing um message me back for your

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prize actually the uh the codes are at home so that's why I can't just send

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them the codes now but thank you everyone very much for playing slick and

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I and actually my wife actually all had a very very good laugh at a lot of the

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pictures in there some of them weren't technically memes but for the most part

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they were quite funny anyway so we've had a big controversy actually you know

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what let's do some Twitter Q&A just because apparently apparent oh okay yes

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yes Sean I will be be talking nextg console I know we haven't had a live

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stream since some of the early news started coming in about Xbox One e3's

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been going on this week so that ah this is so uncomfortable I just figured out

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why my butt sore I have an SSD in my pocket it's like uh yeah that that hurts

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so there we go what's in my other pocket let's play What's oh I do have the game

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codes look at that oh I can tell you what games there Crisis 3 Tomb Raider

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BioShock Infinite and Devil May Cry apparently I don't have Devil May Cry so

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one of them might come without the Devil May Cry so yeah there you go you'll

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you'll I don't know I'll make it up to you somehow um yes I will be talking

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nextg console in fact some of my opinions might be a little bit unpopular

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and a little bit against the grain of what most people think about the whole

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Xbox One PS4 sort of head-to-head right

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now but uh stay tuned for that close the blinds behind you the bottom is light in

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the top is dark it's driving me crazy Joshua just for you I'm going leave

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those blinds exactly the way they are does B have Twitter yes Boll does have

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Twitter boll's Twitter is uh bollore the

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intern or something like that if you if you look I I follow Boll on Twitter so

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you should be able to you should be able to find that there I got my dad a

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Seagate Wireless Plus for his birthday and he loves it I think you mean Seagate

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because Samsung doesn't have a Wireless Plus um I love my Wireless Plus too mine

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actually died on our trip to computex unfortunately though so I'm going to

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have to RMA that it's not accepting a charge anymore so these things happen um

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yeah none a true nerd when you carry an

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SSD in your back pocket yes I know just

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in case you have to it's like you never know so it's another joke from that uh

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the ultimate Tech backpack video that we made apparently none of them were

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technically memes um no I'm pretty sure some of them

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were but I don't think any of the winners were hi lus now you have a new

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office with spare room you could charge slick rent to stay there um yeah I could

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if I wanted to do that yet um I mean you

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know I don't know that we want to share any space with slick and I we will be

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renting out the basement Suite however I will not be posting an ad on Craigslist

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because it was a huge disaster when I posted an ad trying to sell my

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motorcycle on Craigslist because a bunch of you yahoos got a hand got your hands

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on my phone number which in retrospect I should have used a someone sent me a

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fantastic app they sent it to me on my phone because they had my phone number

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now where you can get like burnable phone numbers that cost a couple bucks

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or something like that and that is what I recommend using for Craigslist ads now

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but I it's okay though because as of today my bike is officially back on the

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road I decided I don't really care about a 4k monitor I mean looking at how much

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4K monitors are coming down in price already ASUS has their new 4k monitor

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which is based on the same panel Tech as Sharps I mean it's using an EXO panel so

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gee I wonder where they got an EXO panel from so it's using the same same panel

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as Sharp's monitor um it looks fantastic

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I saw it at CE uh computex which I'm

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like was really tempting but I'm looking at how much 4K is dropping already in

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that's when I'll I'll drop some money on it so what that means is I no longer

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have to make a deal with my wife where I sell my bike to get a 4k monitor so

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bike's going back on the road also part of the reason I had decided against the

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bike was I was planning to keep Line This Media Group running out of my house

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for a longer period of time maybe a year or two so if I don't have anywhere to

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commute to and I don't really have a life because I have a baby and I run my

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own business I figured I didn't really need the bike cuz I didn't have to go

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anywhere uh but now if I'm going to be commuting to our new office then I will

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I will need I will need the bike well you I'll need it so uh will you do an

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eye switch to iOS 7 probably not I think I'm kind of done with iOS 7 I guess I

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could the thing for me is that um like I

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don't I don't know if this is the case with everyone but I actually use my phone for actual work and the

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inconvenience factor that comes about when switching phones and platforms all

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the time is uh has been a big problem

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for me during the I switchs so um yeah

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using my iPhone 4 while I was over at computex just because I had to carry two

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phones my uh my HTC1 is unlocked so I

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was able to use that for my uh Taiwan Sim so I got a SIM card while I was over

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there so I could get unlimited data it's like 30 bucks it costs nothing it's

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awesome it's just like a pay as you go unlimited data uh unlimited text and

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like 350 minutes of calling I'm just who uses their phone this much but then I

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my iPhone 4 because I put my bell Sim in there so that in the event that someone

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who doesn't pay any attention did text me while I was over there I would

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actually get the messages so I was using the iPhone again for a little bit and

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it's not that bad for someone who's a light phone user like me it's still very

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functional but I'm not expecting iOS 7 to run very well on the iPhone 4 and I'm

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certainly not spending money on an iPhone 5 or an iPhone 5S or something

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like that so I really just doubt it's going to happen uh what changes are you

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planning for your new pad I am definitely planning to um have some

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storage space which is great cuz I don't really have that at my place I am

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definitely planning to make some regular

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sets for things like unboxing um I know you guys kind of like the randomness

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some of you do some of you don't where sometimes we're unboxing in the middle of a field and sometimes we're on a

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rooftop and sometimes we're just sort of in all these places but it would be

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great for the sake of consistency to have it in one place because then we

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don't have to fight with the lighting every time and fight with the audio setup every time and we won't have so

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many errors in them so so that's something that uh that we really need to

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we're working on ways that we can smooth out fast as possible a fair bit and one

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of the ways that we're going to do that I know you guys don't like things being

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like specs or something that I can put on there like if I can't remember

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exactly how many stream processors the

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uh radon HT GTX whatever the heck it happens to be has it'll be great to be

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able to put a couple notes on there for me but for something like fastest possible where we have to condense the

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information as much as we possibly can using something like a teleprompter is

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fantastic so this is our new teleprompter we spent like 750 bucks on

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it it's no wonder I have no money right um and what this will do is it'll save

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us an immense amount of time and it'll allow us to tighten up fast as possible

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to the point where it really will be as fast as possible so we have an upcoming

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video coming up on the Techquickie Channel which if you're not subscribed to already go subscribe Techquickie um

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it's going to be decimal versus binary as fast as possible and the video is

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only about 2 minutes and change long which is really cool because I think we

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byes and terabytes and Tibby byes and we didn't really go into the very fine

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details but we gave I hope the viewer a solid understanding of why this

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discrepancy exists in about 2 minutes which we wouldn't be able to do without

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scripting it so uh there you go that's one of the changes we're planning I

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definitely need like a cool gamer Den so when we're doing things like Afterparty

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or gaming streams I want to have like a couch and you know like a TV and maybe I

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don't know maybe a console or something might put a computer we'll put a computer next to the TV there okay but

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if we ever did decide to stream some console games I do own both an Xbox 360

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and a PS3 I don't even know I was trying I was

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trying to turn the Xbox 360 on the other day and I was trying to figure out if

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like there was a power switch on the back or if there was like some kind of a

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trick to it I mean it turned out that there was a light switch that controlled that particular power outlet so it

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wasn't actually my fault but I legit couldn't figure out how to turn it on I

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was like actually I don't know how to do this b-roll cuz he's more of a console

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guy than me anyway um why a CRT monitor I am not using a

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CRT monitor guys it is a trick of the light see there you go LCD monitor there

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uh it is definitely a trick I have a CRT monitor but that's only for game streams

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because the input leg drives me crazy on LCDs when I'm trying to play Platformers

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so let's go ahead and turn off my phone

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because that is going to be a real problem

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yeah actually it's been less of an issue lately because I've just been systematically blocking every single

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person where I don't recognize their number when they call me so uh yeah it

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was only a few yahoos who caused problems uh someone asks if I'm still

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associated with NCIX at all uh yeah I still I still do work

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oops I still do work for them so I still am uh I'm still the host of NC Tech tips

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at least a lot of the videos that are on there I don't know if you guys noticed but we actually made some exclusive

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computex coverage videos for NC so we

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reserved a few of the really cool booths like Intel AMD and Microsoft for the NC

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Tech tips channel so that was part of their sponsorship deal that had them

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helping send us over there so I don't I don't have a paycheck from NC anymore

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but we're still we still work together on things I still have a lot of friends

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there um you know I still highly encourage you guys to buy your computer

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hardware there it's not like the way that we uh parted ways was in any way

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negative or anything like that so I still fully support everything they're

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doing and they do the same for me so no it's uh it's really really good you

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don't have to you don't have to you know work somewhere 9 to5 in order to have a

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good relationship with them so all right now this highly controversial

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topic and I just want to take some time to explain this I posted a thread in the

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Forum asking should we post the boo bab

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video so lonus Media Group did create a

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video of the booth babes at computex 2013 it was honestly it was the last

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thing we did it was by popular demand and we had some viewers be upset that we

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were going to publish this and so I posted a poll and I basically said look

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unless an overwhelming majority of the Forum users want this video I don't

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think it makes sense because you know it it's one of those

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it's one of those things where some people will feel very offended by it

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whereas others feel very offended that anyone thinks it's a big deal at all but

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at the end of the day it's a very polarizing issue so it seemed to me that

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the safest thing to do was that unless like literally everyone was okay with it

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I was just going to leave it and then the other thing that I did was I read

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through every single Post in that thread all 11 pages of it 19 pages of it lots

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of pages all 19 pages of it and I looked

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at what people's arguments were and to me the strongest argument was not sexism

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this or or sexism that or whatever else

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because quite frankly I'm not an expert on any of that stuff the part that

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really stuck out to me was that this is a tech Channel we've never really done

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that before uh I mean if we wanted to we

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could replace Linus in fact if you guys wanted to you could watch videos on CMD

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or there's at least a couple of other Tech channels I've seen in the past that

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do news and they do product videos where it's a busty chick and she doesn't

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necessarily know anything about the product which happens to be the case

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with most of the boo babes that we encountered while we were there but the

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reality of it is you guys are subscribe to me and I'm not that attractive

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but that's what we do we do the tech

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well not the tech the tech is Logan's thing but we we cover the technology we

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talk about the technology we aren't attractive at least I'm not attractive

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my understanding is slick is very attractive so we cover the technology

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and we've never really um we've never really gone down that path before so why

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why are we doing this and I thought it was a very good point however I've had a

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lot of people say look lonus come on

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you're not going to show it to us at all so I'm going to I'm going to give you

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guys some highlights from it here in the live stream if you so are so inclined

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otherwise guys tune out for a couple minutes and uh we will be back shortly

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so here I'm just going to I'm going to have to go find it because I don't not

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100% sure where it is anymore here it is computex

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2013 so I'm going to go ahead I'm going to grab that uh screen

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capture I'm actually starting to really like xsplit I was having trouble with it

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before and now it's now I'm a big fan

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now it just kind of works for me so there you go

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guys okay so play Oh away PlayStation ad

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you guys will have to oh let me know in the twitch chat if the audio is okay I

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have no idea if the YouTube audio videos are all

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right something something yeah I know

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right I hope I get money for that ad even though I'm the one watching it so

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compex coverage so so basically I just had slick and b-roll run around at the

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show I mean there's nothing gratuitous About It by any stretch of the

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imagination so there's the qap girls okay well b-roll got a little bit

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into that one they're

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waving I forget where she's from I forget where they're from is that

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something thing can't remember is that ECS I have no idea I actually wasn't

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with them when uh when they did this whole thing so basically that's ASRock

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can't remember who that is but they just kind of walked around

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the show got some got some videos people saying hi holding products this guy's

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awesome this guy's a rock star we actually did a uh we did like a like

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a wow yeah Boll got kind of into him too

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so we actually did like um like a mock

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thing of his like Superman PC thing

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someone's like go yeah twitch chat's like go back to Superman go back to

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Superman uh this was the WD Booth WD I

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know for a fact actually imported her from like Russia uh because apparently

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it's hard to find blondes in Taiwan she was awesome she actually made

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me a balloon animal which is pretty cool I think that uh I think that the

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definition of of babes got stretched a little bit with Superman and the The

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Jokers here but there you go guys so

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like I said there was nothing there was nothing sort of like you know crazy

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scandalous About It by any stretch of the imagination but at the end of the

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day if if it's going to upset any of the viewers it's probably not worth it and

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like I said we've never really gone down that path before and I think that

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there's room for us to have include you

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know the booth attractions so to speak everything

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about it whether it's a motherboard with water getting poured on it or whether it's you know an attractive young man or

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attractive young lady holding a product then there's room for us to include that

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as part of the booth coverage but it's just not really something we've done in the past so maybe we integrate it later

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on down the road um you know at the next

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event or whatever else the case may be so let's see how upset Twitter is at me

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now that uh that I've gone ahead and I've apparently I've apparently shown

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the uh yeah no one seems to care so there you go guys it's one of those

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things where there sometimes there just isn't really a clear right answer but

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now I've compromised and that is all we are going to do okay this is fantastic

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so I've had people tweeting me all day telling me this scandalous shocker of a

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news story lus did you hear about this

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the Xbox One demos at E3 we're running on

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PCS really really you mean the hardware of

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the Xbox one wasn't done before they had

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to develop games for it oh no but lonus

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you don't understand they're running on high-end PCS with NVIDIA graphics cards

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and I go really you mean an x86 platform

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is being emulated by an x86 platform and

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a direct X11 graphic solution is being emulated by a direct X11 graphic

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solution wow and you mean hold on hold on hold on so you mean we need a little

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bit of over we need a little bit of like extra Hardware muscle in order to

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simulate something else that actually isn't finished yet are you serious about

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all this come on guys happens every time I'm going to you know what I haven't

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done it yet but I'm going to Google it now I'm going to see if I can going to

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see if I can find this um because I'm pretty sure I've seen this before

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PS3 uh demo running on PC or something

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like that let's see if we can find a really old news story 2013 yeah no none

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of this is none of this is old enough PS3 um pre-launch demo running on PC now

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2009 none of this is old enough but guys come on we go through this every time

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yes the devkits are PCS the reason for

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that is that the hardware is not finalized for the consoles yet and I

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mean look at how closely Microsoft and Sony are keeping these things to their

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chests Sony announced the console with without even showing us what it looks

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like okay Microsoft announced the console showed us the console um nobody

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had leaked it yet the fact that nobody's leaked it means that very few people

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were actually handson with it I mean you look at something like video cards every

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video card launch there's always a leak

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I can tell you guys now that I'm one of the top ones on the list in North

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America to get any new NVIDIA graphics card and we are finally hooked up at AMD

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my 7990 arrived so expect some videos to be coming from that about that once the

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uh once the team arrives back from Korea so really excited about that anyway I I

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find about about I find out about new graphics cards from leaks online not

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from NVIDIA telling me about it so the kinds of people like the kind of small

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circle of people that know about something before it's generally sort of

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rumored and out there um yeah nobody had

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seen an Xbox One basically until Microsoft announced it outside of like a

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select few probably within Microsoft like it wouldn't even surprise me if

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like below the VP or director level even at Major Partners like EA nobody even

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knew it was going to be called Xbox One or anything like that so so there you go

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guys um finally accepted lonus is hotter than

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tasty PC I really think that is open for

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debate um Mr mkin on the twitch chat I

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really don't think that that happens to be the case at all but uh anyway there

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you go guys that is my sort of take on

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it if anything we should be less surprised than usual that the demos are

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running on PCS because this generation of consoles is more like PCS than

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anything we've ever seen before I mean back when it was a power PC cores and

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cell processor yeah it was a little surprising that demos are running on PCS

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now I mean come on they are

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PCS I I will be floored if we don't have

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Xbox One emulators and PS4 emulators very quickly this time around compared

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to previous generations just because they're so

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similar uh all right so let's move on to the next topic here I actually had to do

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all my prep for this last night and I relied very heavily on the forum for

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this so guys you rock everyone who posts in the news section on the Forum you

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guys all rock and don't if I didn't pick one of your topics then please don't

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take it the wrong way but these are the ones I picked so Horvath 93 thank you

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very much for this topic AMD stepping up their game so part of AMD's big

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announcement at E3 this year was blah blah blah blah blah marketing speak

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today we are proud to announced that Battlefield 4 will be exclusively

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optimized for AMD radon gpus with that

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said expect NVIDIA to have like a patch

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within like a week they always do it's not like EA is going to ignore NVIDIA

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because you know they optimized a game for AMD and I I I see a lot of sort of I

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see a lot of this stuff where people are like oh lus why did you benchmark that

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game with NVIDIA versus AMD it's an NVIDIA game or it's an

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AMD by like a couple of weeks after launch NVIDIA and AMD have both pretty

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much optimized for it at that point with a few notable exceptions things like

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Crisis 2 and that Crossfire bug that was a big issue for a long time these are

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sort of the weird exceptions that exist but those are very unusual so let's go

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back to this optimized for AMD radi on gpus AMD

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a series apus and AMD FX CPUs EA and

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dice have collaborated to ensure Frostbite 3 based titles like the F4

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look and run their best on am Hardware etc etc etc we have also partnered with

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Square Enix to exclusively optimize Thief for AMD radon gpus and AMD FX CPUs

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so this to me actually the coolest thing about all of this has nothing to do with

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the radon side of the business because optimizing games for gpus before launch

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is common sense AMD and NVIDIA both work really hard with game devs to make sure

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that the games are going to run correctly on their Hardware on Day Zero

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the part that really excited me about that was this optimized for apus and

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optimized for FX CPUs what does that mean because optimized for a CPU totally

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means nothing optimized for a CPU means it like is optimized for x86 which is

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Intel or AMD it makes pretty much no difference unless there's some kind of

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an instruction set like back when SS 2 was introduced that gets a major benefit

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um from something that they've implemented in the game unless there's

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something like that then yeah no it's

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not a thing but optimizing for Apu or FX

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could mean that because the NextGen consoles are so PC like in their

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architecture and because they're going to be using multicore AMD

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apus we could be looking at optimization

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for multicore in a way that we've never seen before because even though the last

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generation consoles used Three core and

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however many cell processors PS3 had who cares because it was so diffult for devs

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to code for that it like it like the

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power of it was so difficult to harness that's why PS3 games looked so much

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better throughout the life cycle of the console not because it was getting more powerful but just because they were like

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wrapping their brains around how the hell do we put a game on this thing um

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but these NextGen consoles running x86 processors multi-core processors we

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could finally be looking at a situation

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where we are fully leveraging our PCS which is very cool and I'm extremely

434
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:33,320
excited about because things like the lack of uh environmental physics have

435
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:37,679
been driving me crazy for years why isn't this working why isn't this so

436
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:44,519
immersive and such a core part of gameplay yet and the answer was because

437
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:46,200
consoles were holding us back um not the

438
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:51,799
case anymore now they're going to be running such a similar architecture so

439
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,320
we could be seeing opencl or multi-core optimizations for games that are going

440
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,240
to allow us to have all kinds of much cooler Ai and weather effects and

441
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,480
physics simulations and all that really really exciting stuff and that to me is

442
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:07,440
the exciting thing about that announcement on the AMD gaming Facebook

443
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:14,639
page so there you go that's my take on that and I'm going to segue into one of

444
00:32:11,159 --> 00:32:17,120
the other topics aha there it is and

445
00:32:14,639 --> 00:32:23,919
this was posted by sure whatever Jad quizy quazer sure

446
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:27,919
fine uh and that is NVIDIA saying Xbox one and PlayStation 4 are great news for

447
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,240
gaming PCs because a lot of people out there are sort of running around saying

448
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,480
oh well NVIDIA doesn't have anything positive to look at about these upcoming

449
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:41,480
consoles they're both AMD AMD or actually all three of them are running

450
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,399
AMD Graphics hardware and all three of

451
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,679
them well not all three of them Wii U is like not great in terms of graphics

452
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,000
performance but the other two are going to be very competitive with an

453
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:56,000
entry-level gaming PC so I mean is NVIDIA not going to be

454
00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:00,960
selling as many graphics cards on the desktop the answer is no the answer is

455
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,760
this is awesome and the way that NVIDIA explains it I think is very clear and

456
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,440
the funny I mean the funny thing to me about this article It's actually an article that was linked from The Verge

457
00:33:07,399 --> 00:33:12,480
and I kind of went oh mainstream media

458
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:17,000
you guys are so funny because I really don't think there's anyone in the it

459
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:21,360
space uh you know whether it's uh whether it's at Tom's Hardware or

460
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:27,200
whether it's uh you know um you know reviews by jeff.com the largest and the

461
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:32,120
smallest I don't think there's anyone in the actual PC space that could have seen

462
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:36,360
more powerful consoles as anything but a positive thing but the Verge felt the

463
00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:42,240
need to report on this and uh this is NVIDIA's fancy little graph that goes uh

464
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:46,600
here let's zoom in bloop bloop bloop new consoles raise the bar and this is

465
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:50,720
important because raising the bar between the best performance that's

466
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:54,760
available on a PC and the performance that's available on consoles I mean look

467
00:33:52,159 --> 00:34:00,240
at how they've diverged with PCS becoming so much more powerful over time

468
00:33:57,639 --> 00:34:04,679
um raising the bar means that we can Implement new technologies in the games

469
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:07,480
with the assumption that a large part of the install base is going to be able to

470
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:13,639
use them I mean this is this is the only way to get around

471
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:19,440
companies like blizzard that make every game as if every computer on the planet

472
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:22,079
needs to be able to run it whereas now

473
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:27,399
instead of and and before we treated consoles like computers so there's this

474
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:31,079
huge install base of people to be able to run this game and while you can go

475
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:36,359
okay well the PC version you can have anti-aliasing you can have higher resolutions you can have better texture

476
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:40,040
packs and all these things at the end of the day you couldn't program like the

477
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:46,800
most sophisticated AI in the world because it was going to make the consoles chug and you can't have like PC

478
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:50,520
Ai and console AI because then you're doing two completely different

479
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:54,599
development paths for the same freaking game which is going to destroy the

480
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:59,119
overhead involved in what are already multi- multi bazillion dollar under

481
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:04,520
takings particularly for these AAA titles so this is sort of NVIDIA's thing

482
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:09,160
is check this out back when we had gtx680 as the cream of the crop and it

483
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:14,680
was up against PS3 and Xbox 360 we were looking at a 13.2% difference which

484
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:20,560
meant that anything any game release that had to run crossplatform had to be

485
00:35:16,839 --> 00:35:22,720
crippled because nothing will run

486
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,720
optimally on this when it has to run optimally on this too I mean we're

487
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:30,920
talking a 10x difference Plus in terms of performance whereas now NVIDIA is

488
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:36,320
saying well check this out now between GTX Titan which by the way is a $1,000

489
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:40,720
graphics card and PS4 which by the way is only a 3.99 console more on that

490
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,760
later um now we have only a two and a half times difference so we'll be able

491
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:49,839
to they'll be able to make a game that's awesome and runs great on PS4 but runs

492
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:54,440
even better on PC and you get that extra eye candy and those tweaks there but

493
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:58,720
we're not being like like held down by this like horrible horri horrible

494
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,680
machine that's just not even close anymore which is extremely exciting so

495
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,119
I'm going to go back to Twitter Q&A for a little bit here guys and if you want

496
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:10,400
to talk to me then I guess you can do that I'm actually kind of uh kind of

497
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:16,599
super excited about something that I'm talking to um someone about but we're

498
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:19,599
thinking of maybe finding a way and I don't know how it's going to work we

499
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,680
might have to have some special tweaks to the software or whatever else I have

500
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:27,240
no idea how we're going to do this but I'd love to find a way to open up phone

501
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,280
boards so that you guys can actually call in and talk on the live stream and

502
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:37,880
there's going to be some more overhead involved for us we'll probably have to have like what radio show do shows do

503
00:36:35,319 --> 00:36:41,480
where there's an operator that um that actually takes the calls and screens

504
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,040
them before they go live and we'll we'll figure out sort of how to make that work

505
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,680
or I can just take over and I can do a segment while slick screens the next

506
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:53,720
caller or whatever else we'll figure out a way to make it work but I'd love to have you guys interact live through

507
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,839
voice rather than limiting it to just text interaction so I'm really excited

508
00:36:55,240 --> 00:37:01,319
about that I had a I had a a conversation with uh the guys there on

509
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:05,040
my way here today and then we're going to have a follow-up call Monday and I

510
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:07,680
think that's going to be really cool so let me know if you're excited about that

511
00:37:06,359 --> 00:37:14,359
as well guys cuz it's going to be awesome someone asks best desk uh the

512
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,880
one with legs that's the right height I

513
00:37:14,359 --> 00:37:18,800
really like the vert desk that's that adjustable desk but it's like $900 or

514
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,440
something like that so it might be out of reach for some people but I mean

515
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:26,040
honestly you're asking the wrong person about furniture you guys are going to be

516
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:29,760
super okay the table I'm using right now is some Ikea thing that's like the worst

517
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:34,240
thing I've ever seen in my life one of the legs is legit broken off it's

518
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,800
propped under it and then I put the table on it and then it's just like held

519
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:43,680
in place by like the pressure of the table and then this is my chair right

520
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,920
now like yeah that that is legitimately

521
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:50,640
what I'm sitting on for the live stream I have no furniture here yet so don't

522
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,640
ask me um will AMD make a GPU to battle

523
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:58,160
with Titan uh they might not make a single GPU card but they certainly have

524
00:37:54,599 --> 00:38:00,079
the Radeon 7990 which is positioned

525
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:05,720
against Titan in terms of price point AMD really has to get their uh their

526
00:38:02,839 --> 00:38:11,280
frame rating fixed driver or going but it should be sometime later this summer

527
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,240
or early fall and 7990 is a legitimate

528
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:20,200
competitor at that point not in terms of power consumption probably not in terms

529
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:22,760
of heat output or P yeah okay well

530
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:27,520
not I mean the thing about Titan the thing about gpus you guys is that it's

531
00:38:25,319 --> 00:38:32,400
funny because consumers seem to think that when an AMD releases something

532
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:36,400
NVIDIA like quickly Engineers a solution and like combats it no no no I mean

533
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:41,240
Titan uh 7970 um these cards are in development

534
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:50,040
for 2 3 years before they actually make it to Market so it's not like if AMD

535
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:52,880
strategy which H it has been since 3000

536
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:57,760
Series if AMD's strategy is let's build smaller gpus and address the highend

537
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:05,680
with a dual GPU solution so you look it that's how it's been 3870 X2 4870 X2

538
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:07,520
5970 and 6990 and I can't remember they

539
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:12,520
keep changing the numbering schemes like why um but that's been their strategy so

540
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,880
how are they going to counter NVIDIA having a huge single GPU card well they

541
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:21,280
don't they don't have one so whether or not they decide to do that in the next

542
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:24,119
couple of generations we'll have to see but it'll be a couple years before we

543
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:29,880
find out if AMD is going to fundamentally change their strategy which by the way has been working pretty

544
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:33,960
well for them um as someone who was on the retail side not that long ago there

545
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,720
have been times in the last few years where like it's been rough for the red

546
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,960
team and now is not one of those times so there you go I don't know how much of

547
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,160
that is um I don't know how much of that is never settle and how much of that is

548
00:39:44,319 --> 00:39:50,920
the hardware the better drivers but it's been it's been very solid do you think

549
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:55,880
you'll be able to overclock a PS4 Xbox One I doubt

550
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:58,920
it the time on your pick is still synced

551
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,839
with try to time yeah yeah probably um I

552
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,800
can't keep track of which of my clocks are right and which of them are wrong at

553
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,520
this point uh right angle 24 pin power connector any thoughts it's non-standard

554
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:14,280
so it'll be great for some cases and not so good for other ones slick is on a

555
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:16,119
plane why no cat tips uh it's it's hard

556
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:21,720
to prioritize making videos about the cats when quite honestly not that many

557
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:23,599
people watch them and it's not that easy

558
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:26,599
like it it feels like I for a while there I was like oh let's try and do a

559
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,560
cat video every day I mean they videos of cats it can't be that hard the

560
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,079
reality of it is it is that hard because even though they do something

561
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:41,079
interesting every day it's very difficult to catch it have you ever tried to give a cat a command Rumble do

562
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:41,079
that thing you were just doing he' be

563
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,760
like so I'd end up with a lot of videos of Rumble being

564
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:54,079
like and that's it that's all I'd have so uh it's very very

565
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:57,079
difficult apparently uh okay okay okay okay Tech fanatic says you featured two

566
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,920
of my new new stories before and you forgot to mention my name so there consider this a mention of your name

567
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:06,480
you're awesome too uh can we get an update on my PC it's done it's just a

568
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,760
matter of making a video about it I just need like little finishing pieces for

569
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:13,400
around the outside of the window and Slick PC is nothing special right now

570
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:19,240
I've been ragging on him to put his GTX 670 that I intentionally I purposefully

571
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,680
obtained a water block for him for it and he never actually put in his

572
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,920
computer what's better NVIDIA R AMD Intel R AMD I actually have videos about

573
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,800
this I'm going to do you the I'm going to do you a big favor here and I'm going

574
00:41:28,359 --> 00:41:33,520
to Google them for you so actually I'm not going to Google them for you I'm

575
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:39,119
going to YouTube search which is even better so check this out because I have

576
00:41:36,839 --> 00:41:45,079
covered these topics Intel versus AMD I'm willing to bet bam first hit Intel

577
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:52,480
versus AMD 586 th000 people watch that video AMD versus NVIDIA bam first hit

578
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,400
256,000 people have found that video so uh you should too go ahead check it out

579
00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:00,160
the answer if you don't want want to watch those videos is that there is no

580
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,040
answer can you explain why the comments are disabled in Slick's keyboard

581
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,760
incident video uh the reason for that is that we're not it's not open for

582
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:12,400
discussion there was a lot of support from the community about saying that oh

583
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,800
well you know armageddon's wrong you know I trust lonus and Slick their video

584
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:23,200
was right the original video was probably right armageddon's probably twisting their arms to make this video

585
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,599
no we were wrong so it's actually very

586
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,920
very detrimental to have the community siding with us on this when the point of

587
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:34,880
what we're trying to do is explain that we were wrong apologize for being wrong

588
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:39,079
and undo any damage that might have been done to armageddon's reputation because

589
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,400
we were wrong so that is why comments are

590
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:47,800
disabled because it would be extremely unhelpful right now for me personally to

591
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:51,960
have people talking about in the comments how Armageddon was unfair and

592
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:56,440
did this and did that it is a very serious problem what we did where we

593
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,119
misrepresented the facts so it is is very important that people just watch

594
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:05,000
the video listen to what we're saying it is the truth and then just let's try to

595
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,480
have this all go away we'll be more diligent in the future we owe it to you

596
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,200
guys we owe it to the manufacturers to make sure that we are as accurately as

597
00:43:10,359 --> 00:43:18,119
possible representing the facts but it is not open for discussion anymore it's

598
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:23,720
done uh so that's why there are no comments on that one do I have any

599
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:28,160
official do I have any original thoughts on Microsoft's response to people who

600
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:31,119
don't have an internet connection I don't think there's really much room for

601
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:40,319
an original thought on it there's only really one thought seriously Microsoft

602
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:42,160
really um I mean even the way that uh I

603
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:45,240
I look at almost any other solution I mean valve is of course the golden

604
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:50,760
standard actually this I think this is one of my news topics but I guess I'll just get into it now valve is the golden

605
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,000
standard in terms of treating customers correctly sort of they've done things

606
00:43:53,480 --> 00:44:00,640
that have been extremely unpopular in the past as well no used

607
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:06,160
games people did not like that at first that was a big problem big controversy

608
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:08,400
back in the day um having to check in

609
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:12,400
having to sign in I mean when valve was pushing steam always on internet

610
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:17,040
connections Broadband connections were not as big of a thing as they are now

611
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,240
this a big point of contention between Gamers and valve with people vowing I

612
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:25,760
will never install Steam I will never give a penny of my money to this company

613
00:44:23,319 --> 00:44:29,520
whereas now we look at steam as like you know God's gift to Gamers and personally

614
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,400
I love it not having to keep track of CDs I don't remember the last time I

615
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,960
installed a game off a CD it's ridiculous like it just seems like

616
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:42,359
absurd now and going back to the console concept for me of installing games off

617
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:45,680
of a dis is just kind of backwards it's like well can I just download it and

618
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:50,839
have it tied to my account like to me it's not that crazy the problem with

619
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:54,920
Microsoft's approach right now is how often it needs to check in that to me is

620
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:59,760
a is a big concern because even steam will run for for a pretty reasonable

621
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:05,880
period of time in single player games uh without logging in even things like uh

622
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Adobe Creative Cloud so Linus Media Group um rather than investing in

623
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,000
individual licenses of adobe products has recently switched over to Creative

624
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:19,400
Cloud so it's their subscription based service where uh much like Office 365 we

625
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:26,400
don't have to worry about updates we don't have to worry about having out-of-date software we don't have to

626
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,640
worry about um paying a massive chunk of

627
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,319
money up front to acquire the software

628
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,319
and we don't have to worry obviously about you know the illegality of

629
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:39,640
pirating software when you're doing professional work with it so we got

630
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:44,280
Creative Cloud and it's awesome Creative Cloud Works without checking in for at

631
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:50,319
least a couple days I know cuz I tried it I had it on a laptop that so I had

632
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:54,119
Bolls Creative Cloud logged into my laptop so we could install it there so

633
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:59,079
he could use it and then he was using it on the plane and then um in Taiwan

634
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,000
without logging in without validating or going online in any way for at least a

635
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:08,520
couple days which is which is great I mean I'm never really away from internet

636
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,559
long enough that a two or 3 days or 5

637
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:16,040
days is going to be a problem but having it single day is um I mean I really hope

638
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:20,079
they backpedal on this I think there's a lot of room for Microsoft to undo the

639
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:26,880
damage that they've done over the last little while by just going you know what

640
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,720
we hear you and we're sorry and here are

641
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:33,240
the concessions we're going to make the living room is still very important to

642
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:38,000
us and they're right the living room is extremely important Sony don't imagine

643
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:40,880
for a okay I'm going to be getting into one of my other topics so why don't we

644
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:44,559
just uh blah blah blah blah

645
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:50,880
blah no okay this isn't quite one of my other topics okay so don't imagine for a

646
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:57,920
second Sony doesn't want to own the living room too if you can okay here I

647
00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:00,319
mean using uh PS P S3 as a streamer for

648
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:06,720
video hello owning the living room I mean they're they're both moving towards

649
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:09,640
that content consumption as well as

650
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:12,920
gaming model don't imagine for a second that just because Microsoft is the one

651
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:18,800
talking about it doesn't mean that they aren't both doing it also don't imagine

652
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,440
for a second that somehow Sony is a

653
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:26,200
white knight in all of this they are taking advantage of some major PR

654
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,240
blunders on Microsoft side and yes I

655
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,720
have been one to I mean if you guys saw my tweets during the Xbox One reveal I

656
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,160
was ripping on it as hard as anyone but at the end of the day Sony's sitting

657
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,880
there going oh well this is great because what Microsoft's doing right now

658
00:47:38,839 --> 00:47:45,839
is they are Paving the way for us to do the same thing look at what's going on

659
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:49,200
with their online services so how upset were people initially when Microsoft

660
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:54,640
wanted you to have a gold membership in order to play games online over time they got used to it

661
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:58,960
they accepted it I think I've gotten away from the living room thing and I've gotten into that other topic that I was

662
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:03,839
looking at just there but owning the living room yeah don't imagine they don't want to do it okay whatever I'm

663
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,800
just going to tent off here because that's apparently what's going on now um

664
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:11,920
so okay so look at paying for the online service Sony kind of took the high road

665
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,440
and went well we don't charge for ours blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

666
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:17,720
blah that's great well hey nextg guess what they're charging and their charge

667
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,839
is going to be very similar to what Microsoft implemented so if you think

668
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:27,599
for a second that anything that Microsoft's doing right now if it turns

669
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:31,599
out that it works and Gamers accept it if you think for a second Sony isn't

670
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:35,800
going to implement it whether it's sometime during the life cycle of the

671
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:39,960
PS4 or sometime later you are wrong you're 100% wrong because they will

672
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,680
that's the way that a doop works and quite frankly Nintendo is so far out of

673
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:48,040
the game at this point and so far behind on online that it's they're completely

674
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:52,920
irrelevant in the context of this conversation Sony will follow suit they

675
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:58,400
will do check-ins they will limit used game sales but they might do it with PS5

676
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:02,480
it's just a matter of time and at the end of the day there's nothing

677
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:08,040
inherently wrong to me with tying a game to uh an account to a person as opposed

678
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:13,359
to tying it to a physical piece of medium or in the case of what Nintendo

679
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,720
did on the original Wii with the classic

680
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:19,599
classic console and all that stuff where they tied it to the actual piece of Hardware I mean that was ludicrous and

681
00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:23,799
that didn't get nearly the same negative Buzz that Microsoft's getting over what

682
00:49:21,319 --> 00:49:29,520
they're doing with the one so mostly to me it looks like Microsoft is trying to

683
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:31,240
do too much too fast they are upsetting

684
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,240
their core audience which happens to be Gamers sort of they're very vocal

685
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:41,839
audience happens to be Gamers but there are people who will buy Xboxes who aren't Gamers so they're upsetting their

686
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:47,520
very vocal audience and they are giving Sony so much ammo I mean the Sony video

687
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:54,520
was um I mean it was it was opportunistic

688
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:56,760
because it ignores the advantages of of

689
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:01,319
account-based uh of account-based title ownership so I'm I'm gonna play it here

690
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:04,839
just because it's uh it's in one of the threads on the Forum at least I thought

691
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:09,319
it was here anyway so Sony created a cute little video showing you how to

692
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:12,440
share a game on the PlayStation which

693
00:50:09,319 --> 00:50:15,480
was um basically just one guy handing a

694
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:19,720
game to another one

695
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:21,040
and I mean that's that's cute but it

696
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:25,839
hold on I think I I think I clicked the wrong thing or maybe I put the wrong Link in there or something like that I

697
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,440
mean uh that that's that's cute and all that but at the end of the day yeah Sony

698
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:33,160
wants your money just as bad as Microsoft does and an interesting point

699
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,920
that was made whether it was by Microsoft employee or whether it wasn't

700
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:43,079
was that what tying the license to the person does much like the way guys

701
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:46,880
remember we accept this from valve much like the way steam does not allowing you

702
00:50:44,839 --> 00:50:49,960
sales I mean they don't allow it at all never mind having a fee for it and

703
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:56,480
allowing you to do it they don't allow it at all what it does is it allows more

704
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:58,839
money to go to the Game Dev potentially

705
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:02,440
and less money to be subsidizing like additional licenses down the road like

706
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:07,440
why are we giving GameStop money for this and at the end of the day okay hold

707
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:12,240
on the argument could be made well Xbox One games are probably going to be

708
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:15,559
$59.99 I'll be surprised if triaa titles

709
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:17,880
hold at $59.99 or even $69.99 over the

710
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:21,359
near future because you look at how much they cost to make look at how much money

711
00:51:19,799 --> 00:51:26,000
is being hemorrhaged by companies like Square Enix look at how few developers

712
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:30,760
are even left in the game and I'll will be floored I mean you look

713
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:33,000
at Gamers are willing to pay $99.99 plus

714
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:38,240
for something like a limited edition you know Halo 18 or whatever we're up to now

715
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:42,079
in terms of the HALO Series that comes with you know a plastic Master Chef

716
00:51:40,359 --> 00:51:45,559
Helmet or whatever the case may be they're willing to pay it they've been

717
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:50,319
testing the water on this for a long time expect it games are going to go up

718
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:54,760
in price and if we can prevent that by preventing used

719
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:59,960
sales I don't know maybe I'm okay with that I don't know I I mean the reality

720
00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:03,440
of it is I haven't bought a console game

721
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:06,240
since Mario Kart Wii and then I hadn't

722
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:10,280
bought a console game before that since Super Nintendo um maybe I'm just the

723
00:52:08,799 --> 00:52:14,160
wrong person to talk to about all this but I love steam um I love the way the

724
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:18,079
marketplace works there I love the way that game pricing is dictated by

725
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,200
maintaining a solid run rate for the Game Dev so games end up actually priced

726
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:26,440
like what they're worth as opposed to you know the packaging involved and the

727
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:30,040
printing of the discs and the marketing materials inside and the logistics of

728
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:33,760
shipping them all over the place and covering the margins for the retailers

729
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:38,200
as far as I'm concerned buyby retailers we don't need you anymore this is this

730
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:42,880
is software now bye-bye I mean even the cost of the bandwidth of downloading the

731
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,400
game is going to as long as they pass

732
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,160
the savings along to the consumer is going to cover what you would have spent

733
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,559
giving a retailer a markup and paying for the logistics of shipping these

734
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:55,520
stupid things all over the place so I think that it just has to move on from

735
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,240
the model it is now Microsoft going to be very unpopular for a little while but

736
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,119
at the end of the day they're both going to do it and if you imagine for a second

737
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:06,160
that Sony doesn't want to figure out a way to have you buying Sony movies

738
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:10,280
through the PS4 then you're crazy I mean look at what they did with uh even what

739
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:15,319
was that stupid console no one cared about the little one not the vaita the one before that where they wanted you to

740
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,480
buy like little discs that you were going to watch movies on I mean come on

741
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:24,760
they've been trying to do that for generations of products now they're not the hero here so there

742
00:53:22,359 --> 00:53:29,119
you go there's my unpopular opinion on what's going on with the whole console

743
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:35,079
thing right now all right pricing wise 399 versus

744
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:37,359
$4.99 if Microsoft can pull off Xbox one

745
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:41,720
being this motion enabled way of interacting with your entire living room

746
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:46,880
that's really cool that's probably worth $100 to me I'm going let that sink in

747
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:53,319
for a minute blah blah blah privacy this privacy that as long as the Privacy

748
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,839
agreement is such that my butts covered

749
00:53:53,319 --> 00:53:58,640
in terms of if I'm sitting there picking my notes knows there isn't going to be a

750
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:02,359
video of it on YouTube Somewhere as long as the bases are covered on that and

751
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:05,760
it's just accepting my gesture inputs or whatever else and I know that they have

752
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,000
a patent for how many people are watching the content and whatever else

753
00:54:07,799 --> 00:54:14,079
and I'm okay you know I'm going to actually I'm going to launch into that after this as well the patent for uh

754
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:20,119
charging for Content based on how many people are viewing it that could be awesome or it could be terrible so hold

755
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:21,799
on um if they can make that work that's

756
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:25,480
going to be incredible it's going to be a completely new way of I mean look at

757
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:30,440
how hard the TV guys are trying to push this with Samsung Smart TV with their

758
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,640
just it doesn't work at all the one

759
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:36,720
platform that has a chance of doing this is Xbox one right now and the reason for

760
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:41,319
that is it actually has the horsepower to back it up it's got the 1080p camera

761
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:45,240
it's got It's got the horses it can actually do it it has Microsoft behind

762
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,440
it For Better or For Worse yeah Microsoft isn't perfect but at the end

763
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:52,200
of the day I'll Trust their software more than I'll Trust You Know Jack's

764
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,520
utility unless it's been around for 10 years like something like filezilla

765
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:59,200
where you know that it's going to kind of work and it's fairly simple I mean an

766
00:54:57,359 --> 00:55:03,640
operating system is phenomenally complex the fact that they are able to do it at

767
00:55:00,359 --> 00:55:05,559
all is outstanding um so if there's

768
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:09,119
someone who can pull it off Microsoft can pull it off and it is a cool way to

769
00:55:07,799 --> 00:55:12,680
interact with your TV in your living room change the channel volume up volume

770
00:55:10,799 --> 00:55:16,480
down walking away and having things pause I mean if you could set it up I

771
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:20,799
mean imagine this for a second guys if you could set it up so that you

772
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:24,799
configure things in your Xbox one so that when you personally walk away it

773
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,839
pauses and when anyone else does it doesn't doesn't bother to pause I would

774
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:32,440
do that I don't care if my movie pauses if someone else goes away that that's

775
00:55:30,839 --> 00:55:39,039
awesome I mean yeah there's problems with it like if I say um hold on I can't

776
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,039
remember what it

777
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:48,559
is can't even I can't even remember anymore

778
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:55,440
so what is it uh whatever I can't even remember how

779
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,160
you turn off an Xbox with voice command but I think it's like Xbox off or something like that I mean if I say that

780
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,880
and it turns off your live stream right now that's a that's that's that's bad

781
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:07,640
but they're going to figure it out they're going to find a way to like

782
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:11,280
voice cancel the content that's actually coming out of the Xbox or noise cancel

783
00:56:09,799 --> 00:56:15,640
it or something like that they will figure it out and I'm pretty excited for

784
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:20,400
what they can do I mean the problem being that Xbox one isn't as powerful

785
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,960
it's not going to have as much raw power as PS4 in terms of running games but at

786
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:29,520
the end of the day it's not like it's a generation behind where not talking about the difference between the PS4 is

787
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,240
going to run at 1080p Xbox One's going to run at 720p and it's going to be a

788
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:37,520
night and day difference we're going to be talking about some extra details on PS4 it will look better but neither of

789
00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:43,359
them are going to be anywhere near or PC anyway so whatever it's it's all still

790
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:45,200
console stuff so crap what was that

791
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:49,640
thing I wanted to launch into it was something to do with it was something to

792
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:54,520
do with connect uhoh a shoot okay if anyone in the

793
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:59,640
twitch chat can tell me what the thing I said I I was going to talk about

794
00:56:56,599 --> 00:57:02,839
was uh come on

795
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,720
guys okay something something something

796
00:57:02,839 --> 00:57:10,240
spying ah yes yes how many people are watching okay

797
00:57:06,839 --> 00:57:13,720
so your initial reaction to this is

798
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:15,839
shock and awe and horror right imagine

799
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:21,440
if the content companies were charging you for how long you sat in front and

800
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,960
watched it or for how many people you

801
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:28,520
had watching it now for things like pay-per-view this is going to change the

802
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:32,760
whole Paradigm for you where you have 20 buddies come over you get a pizza you

803
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:38,000
have one pay-per-view and you watch it and that is going to be a real bummer

804
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:42,880
but for some types of content this could be a huge blessing and think about it

805
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:49,000
this way guys it's one of those things where you have accepted this already

806
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,359
okay hold on going to a movie well you

807
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:55,520
pay for how many people go and you pay for how many people watch the movie huh

808
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:58,079
okay so you accepted that before whereas now all of a sudden I'm going to tell

809
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:05,359
you you're going to have to pay for how many people watch it in your living room and you kind of go whoa hold on hold on

810
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:08,240
a minute now assuming that the rates are

811
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:14,520
better depending on how few people watch it this could be awesome if it kind of

812
00:58:11,559 --> 00:58:17,839
starts at $1 19999 to watch the movie or whatever Netflix charges uh whatever

813
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:21,640
with their monthly service or if it starts at what we're used to paying now

814
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:26,280
to have one person watch it and everyone else is an incremental charge that's a

815
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,960
big problem but but if we're looking at a situation where if it's just me

816
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:34,280
watching it I can pay like two bucks and watch a movie that could be awesome for

817
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:39,119
the forever alone types that could be fantastic for people with big families

818
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:43,160
it could be negative so I think what we have to do with a technology like that

819
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:47,000
is we have to go whoa hold on okay let's find out where they're going with this

820
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,640
because remember guys at the end of the day if for whatever reason you are

821
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:55,240
unhappy with the way that Xbox One implements any of these patents or any

822
00:58:53,280 --> 00:59:00,640
of these Technologies you don't have to buy one no one has a gun to your head no

823
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:05,680
one is telling you buy an Xbox One or I'm going to pop you because they're not

824
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:10,240
allowed to do that

825
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:12,079
yet um but that's the way to vote anyone

826
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:16,720
who is upset and we said this on the last live stream anyone who is upset

827
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:21,240
about the way that Xbox One is unfolding or PS4 for that matter if they decide to

828
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:25,039
implement some of these policies or you know all of them or none of them

829
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,480
whatever it is you don't have to buy it just don't buy it if you don't buy it

830
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:34,559
it'll all go away all these problems will go away instantly if nobody if not

831
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:37,760
a single person ran out and paid $19.99

832
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:39,839
or $24.99 for a Blu-ray movie that would

833
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,960
go away the pricing would drop that's how it works I worked in retail you have

834
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:49,599
to move product if you don't sell anything you go out of business so don't

835
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:54,760
buy it and it'll go away and if you do buy it then you're part of the

836
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:56,240
problem uh so hold on a second you you

837
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,960
pay extra in a theater to cover the cost of the theater facilities well you pay

838
00:59:57,799 --> 01:00:05,880
extra to consume content because of the cost of producing the content I mean as

839
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:08,400
someone who makes content now um I

840
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:12,480
personally benefit more the more people watch it because I get to deliver more

841
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:18,440
ad impressions well okay now hold on a minute what if someone like um some kind

842
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,960
of a video streaming service what if they didn't even charge more for the

843
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:25,200
content what if they just got to count more ad Impressions if more people were

844
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:30,240
sitting and watching it that's cool because that doesn't pass

845
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:34,520
any cost on to the consumer and it benefits the producers of the content

846
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:38,079
and it benefits advertisers because they have a much better gauge for how many

847
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:43,039
people are watching their content not everything is tinfoil hat conspiracy

848
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:46,440
theory and like I said Microsoft May implement this in such a way that it

849
01:00:44,359 --> 01:00:51,000
costs you $60 to sit and watch a movie with your you know 18 children they

850
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:54,960
might I don't know and if they do don't buy it and if they don't and if it ends

851
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,839
up being something that's very benign and benefits everyone like the scenario

852
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:01,839
I just gave you well then it's a completely different story then all of a

853
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,119
sudden everyone's going to be clapping their hands going wow Microsoft I can't believe you thought of this this is the

854
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:10,480
best thing ever because now our content I mean okay imagine this whoa okay here

855
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:15,720
like brain explosion imagine your pay-per-view was

856
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:19,079
cheaper the more people watched it because they could deliver more ads or

857
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:22,839
something like that or you could have an option where uh you could go oh I'm

858
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:27,079
going to have 30 people here we're going to validate it with connect so we want

859
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:31,599
the pay-per-view stream for free and feel free to Chunk in ads here here and

860
01:01:28,839 --> 01:01:36,760
here what if you had options for how to pay for your

861
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:40,880
content so there you go guys might be good might be bad probably bad but I'm

862
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:48,480
giving them the benefit of the doubt because I'm not going to pay for it anyway all right so let's move on to you

863
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:53,720
know what let's do some Twitter Q&A because I think I said I was going to do something and I never actually did it so

864
01:01:51,799 --> 01:01:57,400
I have no idea what time it is I have no idea if my wife is going to come get me

865
01:01:55,839 --> 01:02:01,720
I have no idea how any of this is going to work tonight apparently I have a Miss

866
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:06,319
call hopefully it's not from her apparently I have oh oh Skype message

867
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:12,839
from one of the mods on the Forum not sure not sure what he

868
01:02:08,839 --> 01:02:15,480
wants um competitions okay I can mention

869
01:02:12,839 --> 01:02:22,799
that so apparently in the coding section of the uh lus Tech tips Forum there is a

870
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:24,599
little coding contest so the first uh so

871
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:27,960
it's a 100 line program you want want to do something so it's called the under

872
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,160
100 line challenge so guys if you're a programmer go check it out that might be

873
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:36,960
might be fun for you if you're into that sort of thing uh okay so someone says

874
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:41,119
hide your friends behind a shroud when watching movies well okay maybe I mean

875
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:45,319
it's it's one of those things where if you get caught it might be a problem

876
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:48,119
much the same way as like well go in the uh go in the HOV lane or go in the

877
01:02:46,839 --> 01:02:53,400
diamond lane or whatever they call it in your area just put a dummy in the other seat like that people got in trouble for

878
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:57,920
that uh and I am going to be talking about this that that is a big problem

879
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:03,160
that is like a w that that's like I can't even okay uh why should you pay

880
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:08,559
more just because more people are in your house well because more people are watching the content it's not so much

881
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:13,440
why should you pay more it's why should the content creator get more I feel like

882
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,480
the more people watch my live stream the more advertising Revenue I should get am

883
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:21,880
I wrong so it's it's not always about

884
01:03:19,279 --> 01:03:26,960
consumer rights necessarily sometimes it's about content creator rights or

885
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:32,480
sometimes it's about um someone else's rights and if there is a way that

886
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:35,400
Microsoft can do this in a benign way I don't want to I don't want to keep going

887
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:39,440
on this topic for much longer but if there's a way that Microsoft can do this

888
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:43,720
in a benign way that benefits everyone then it's fantastic but if not then then

889
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:47,119
it's a problem and you don't have to buy it there you go lineus come on how would

890
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,279
someone ever be able to check in your private home how many is there it's BS and never going to happen with the

891
01:03:49,279 --> 01:03:56,839
connect they have a patent for this read the news um lonus are you going to talk

892
01:03:55,359 --> 01:04:00,799
about the new NVIDIA wicko display driver killing cards haven't encountered

893
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,880
it yet I might not go out of my way to install it this is this is actually

894
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:08,400
something that's interesting to me about GeForce experience with automatic driver

895
01:04:05,799 --> 01:04:11,640
updates and that's why I personally am going to opt out of the automatic driver

896
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:15,760
updates because sometimes updated drivers can cause problems particularly

897
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:19,640
with very old titles and since I haven't played a new game in like months um

898
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:25,559
sometimes the games that I do play tend to be older titles so it's beneficial

899
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:29,520
for Joe wants to play the latest Call of Duty and beneficial Honestly for

900
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:33,039
probably 95% of Gamers out there or even more than that but personally I probably

901
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:37,520
won't implement it CU I do like to take a bit of a wait and see on the latest

902
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:41,640
drivers um I I don't know that there's any validity to it it's possible that it

903
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:46,079
is killing cards it's possible that it's not um I know there have been situations

904
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:50,760
in the past where there was a driver update that was causing the fans to not

905
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:54,720
um go fast enough which was causing cards that were probably already on the

906
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:58,520
brink of failure to fail prematurely um but I have no idea what's going on

907
01:04:56,119 --> 01:05:02,680
with this one what do I think about the new Mac Pro that's actually one of the

908
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:05,839
topics I have lined up for later uh I haven't looked into it enough so I'm

909
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:10,200
going to be taking a very sort of thousand foot view of it but uh sort of

910
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,559
give me give me some time on that why is gesture control so amazing if you walk

911
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:17,079
away at pauses really people are too lazy to press a button on a remote it's

912
01:05:15,359 --> 01:05:20,720
not about people being too lazy or too not lazy I mean you know the same thing

913
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:25,079
got said about cell phones what people are too you know blah blah blah they

914
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:28,960
can't just you know use a phone in their house yeah every

915
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:35,920
advancement there are fudy duddies who don't want to see it so whatever um it's

916
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:39,960
going to happen everything in Star Trek will happen at some point so you can

917
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:44,000
fight it all you want but whatever uh Sony has been King when it comes to

918
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:47,720
proprietary devices like flash on their cameras and their special SD cards in

919
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:52,520
charger yep yeah actually Sony has been one of the worst in terms of consumer

920
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:57,960
friendliness with their Hardware I mean as someone who has a Sony camera that

921
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:00,039
I'm looking at right now um I mean they

922
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:04,839
want money for the firmware update to unlock the 4K functionality that there

923
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:09,279
was no sort of they didn't say it was going to be paid when I bought my camera

924
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:13,160
they want money for the module that they didn't really say anything about they

925
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:18,200
said it would just be an SDI output they want money for the recorder that uses a

926
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,520
proprietary card format I mean guys

927
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:24,440
don't pretend Sony is your friend Sony's not your friend

928
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:28,200
Microsoft's not your friend Google's not your friend Apple's not your friend

929
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,359
they're not your friends so there you go I'm not your friend for that matter

930
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,160
unless you're watching my live stream in which case I'm definitely your friend um

931
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:39,480
of course they'll try and sell movies considering their focus on 4K players and Blu-ray yeah of course they're going

932
01:06:38,279 --> 01:06:42,920
to try and sell movies they want your living room just like Microsoft we don't

933
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:48,160
complain about steam because the games are cheaper especially with steam sales well I'll be interested to see what

934
01:06:46,359 --> 01:06:52,000
happens with Xbox One if they do bring us cheaper games then we could be having

935
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:56,400
a very different conversation steam has awesome sales no one does that with

936
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,520
console games stay tuned um yeah but

937
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:02,760
with steam there was never any expectation of buying and selling used games of course there was PC Gamers

938
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:08,000
expected it whether they delivered it or not um and I mean in much the same way

939
01:07:06,279 --> 01:07:12,039
that steam told you up front you can't sell this used I was still surprised

940
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,880
when I found out I couldn't give a game to a friend and Gamers who buy things up

941
01:07:15,279 --> 01:07:19,799
front on an Xbox One and know that they can't sell it used or whatever else

942
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:24,559
they'll know that too or they'll be surprised just like me have you got a

943
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:28,000
call from Nintendo about your live play no I haven't gotten a call from them

944
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:31,680
they just uh they claimed one of the one of the videos they monetized it whatever

945
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:35,319
I mean we're talking on the order of like several dollars like it doesn't

946
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:40,559
make a big difference to me one way or the other but I was just amused because

947
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,799
we talked about that and then they they

948
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:48,279
monetized our video um did you see his face when Xbox said

949
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:53,960
the cost no idea what you're talking about okay uh AMD 5 GHz TPU yeah I'll be

950
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,440
that's actually one of my topics as well I have a lot of topics still what time

951
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,880
is it none of my clocks are right I have no idea what's going on right now uh do

952
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:06,000
you think I should get a 660 Ti or a 770 or wait for 760 sorry I can't really

953
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:11,119
comment on unreleased products although I can tell you right now that I will

954
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:16,000
know at some point would a GTX 770 do a 4K display

955
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:21,120
yes it would um it probably yeah a 4 gig one

956
01:08:18,839 --> 01:08:25,239
would be better though hi from Red dear hello what are the sexy red boxes behind

957
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:31,679
me oh well these are unboxings I'll be doing soon this my friends is a Zonar feeis

958
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:38,000
which I'm extremely excited to check out we're going to be using this for our 900d ultimate build with liquid

959
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:41,080
cooling and this my friends is a rampage 4 Gene which we were supposed to do a

960
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,199
build with a couple months ago but it got delayed in shipping and blah blah

961
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:49,839
blah blah blah blah blah so we'll be doing a tiny matx

962
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,239
build uh with that one that's going to be really cool cuz it's going to have a

963
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:56,080
six core it's going to be in a Silverstone sg9 so it's going to be

964
01:08:54,199 --> 01:09:00,679
super tiny it's going to have a Quadro and a GTX card so it'll have Cuda

965
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:06,080
acceleration for Da Vinci resolve this is going to be Diesel's new workor station so it'll have Cuda acceleration

966
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:11,759
for that and it'll have 8 bit or 10 bit or whatever the high bit color depth

967
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,080
output is for his Pro art 8 bit panel so

968
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:17,440
that he can do all of his color work on one Monitor and he can do all of his other work on another monitor and he

969
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:22,279
wants a third monitor I was like really man what do I what am I made of money no

970
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:23,560
wonder I have no money left right um I

971
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:28,560
missed the first 20 minutes are you in the Media Group house yes Xbox One meme

972
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:32,960
sorry I can't really click links during the stream just because I never know what's there uh wow there's a lot of

973
01:09:31,759 --> 01:09:40,000
people talking about the new NVIDIA driver I haven't even heard about this yet I've been so busy I have a dead

974
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:41,880
pixel what should I do nothing sorry man

975
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:47,080
you got a dead pixel there's not a whole lot you can do am I the only one who

976
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:54,279
finds white PCB super sexy no you're not I actually bought a sapphire uh 690g

977
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:57,880
motherboard it was an matx board in fact

978
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:59,360
it might be in my parents old media PC

979
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:03,719
which might be over there I might go check that out later it

980
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,719
might still be in there but I bought it just even though I knew that a sapphire

981
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:10,840
motherboard was probably going to be a problem they had no experience with motherboards it was like their first one

982
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:16,440
but I bought it just because it had a white PCB it was awesome why don't you use Skype for call-in uh because we are

983
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,719
looking for someone to sponsor the Callins because right now the live

984
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:24,840
streams are a money sync just to pay myself and Slick to sit here and talk to

985
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:29,120
you guys for an hour half I am losing money so there you go so I'm trying to

986
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:33,000
find a way to have the live stream be somewhat sponsored or whatever else did

987
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:37,280
you hear about the 200 watt TDP I didn't hear it was a 200 watt TDP but I'm not

988
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,320
surprised uh should I upgrade to Haswell now sure why not um it's not like

989
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,760
Intel's going to be releasing anything new amds come out right and said they

990
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:49,520
don't have anything new coming for 2013 that isn't an APU so yep go for it oh do

991
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,679
you recommend redundant radiators and pumps for extreme builds with Titans and

992
01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:58,440
extreme CPU um I never really recommend dual Loop but it is never a bad idea to

993
01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:01,719
put a couple of pumps in cereal because then you get not only increased pumping

994
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:06,280
head pressure but you also get redundancy in case one of the pumps dies

995
01:11:03,719 --> 01:11:14,840
and more radiators is always better even if you are not actually um like even if

996
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:18,120
you don't really need that cooling power then what you can do is you can turn

997
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:21,880
fans off when your system's idling if you have a more advanced fan controller

998
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:25,520
and then you can just use as much radiator as you need and then as your

999
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,760
your system loads and your water heats up you can have the fans kick in that's

1000
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:32,159
what that's what I do on my system so yes more radiators is always better if

1001
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:37,920
you want a quiet system okay uh why can't monitors go

1002
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:41,920
right to the edge for a true bezeless experience uh the reality of it is is

1003
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:46,679
that it's about more than just having the monitor set up on your desk so if

1004
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:50,000
you just manufactured a monitor and moved it straight from the production

1005
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:54,280
line to a desk it would probably be fine but they have to design them to

1006
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:57,400
withstand packing and shipping and being display models and stores and all of

1007
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:02,600
these things that they're going to undergo and that is why you cannot have

1008
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:06,639
a bezeless monitor because someone is going to dunk it up and the manufacturer

1009
01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:11,880
has to cover their butts on that so let's move into our next topic uh which

1010
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:16,239
is I mean everyone wants me to talk about all of these topics that I had

1011
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:22,080
lined up so I guess I better better do it uh the new Mac Pro so this one was

1012
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:29,360
submitted by J dude unfortunately it seems oh wait

1013
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:33,840
what what's the wrong link dang it well whatever the new Mac Pro was submitted

1014
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:38,400
by someone uh so the new Mac Pro it's a little cylinder it has three pcbs it has

1015
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:44,159
dual AMD workstation grade graphics cards and it has like a 12 core CPU or

1016
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:47,199
something stupid like that very cool um

1017
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:49,520
very cool form factor Apple's basically

1018
01:12:47,199 --> 01:12:53,080
banking on Thunderbolt being the only way people expand their PCS I mean the

1019
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:57,679
last Mac Pro upgrade we got was what almost a decade ago or something like

1020
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:00,880
that in terms of a major Mac Pro upgrade I don't know however long it was I pay

1021
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:05,320
very little attention and I'm very sorry for that but the last major Mac Pro

1022
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:09,400
upgrade we got was a long time ago they're updating it in such a way that I

1023
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:13,159
think they're forward-looking enough that they are expecting to not update it

1024
01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:17,600
for a similar period of time again so they're basically going to themselves

1025
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:20,440
okay we are expecting by that time nobody is going to upgrade storage

1026
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:24,600
internally in their computers I mean Apple's never really been about

1027
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,760
upgrading the storage in their Mac Pros I think the most they've ever had is

1028
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:32,760
four expansion slots for 3 and2 in drives which is abysmal um I mean

1029
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:39,000
especially when you compare it to that uh that azrock motherboard that was on display at computex that supports 22

1030
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:44,360
drives directly attached so okay so there's that uh they are banking on I

1031
01:13:42,199 --> 01:13:48,960
think pretty much every peripheral connecting to the computer whether it is

1032
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:54,760
something more basic like a USB thumb drive or whether it is something more

1033
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:57,920
advanced like an acceleration card such

1034
01:13:54,760 --> 01:14:00,040
as um like a red rocket which is for

1035
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:04,560
working with 4K files with that are in the red raw format that you shoot on RED

1036
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:07,840
cameras so something like a red rocket I think they're expecting to run

1037
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:12,440
externally over Thunderbolt which is basically PCI Express so having things

1038
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:16,560
like external PCI Express boxes like the magma 3T which we checked out recently

1039
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,840
and unfortunately we're just waiting for drivers to catch up and support to catch

1040
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,800
up so you could have external graphics cards and external accelerator cards and

1041
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:27,719
all that kind of stuff they expecting all of that to be external at some point

1042
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:33,880
in time all the storage everything so it has six Thunderbolt 2 so that's 20 gbit

1043
01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:35,239
per second ports um actually a NCH has a

1044
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,880
great everything you need to know about Thunderbolt go check it out or

1045
01:14:37,159 --> 01:14:43,400
Thunderbolt 2 go check it out it's awesome it covers this new tech very

1046
01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:48,840
thoroughly so they've got six of those and I look at it and I go cool um Great

1047
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:52,440
Value right now if you want something that's very forward thinking very

1048
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:55,880
powerful and priced reasonably but we've seen this time and time again it

1049
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:59,960
actually kind of drives me crazy when viewers or members of The Forum say

1050
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:05,080
Don't Buy Apple computers they're overpriced sometimes they are sometimes

1051
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:12,480
they're not at launch I mean if you guys looked at the MacBook Pro that had the

1052
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:15,800
um I think it was the black one or something like that so A couple

1053
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:19,639
Generations ago when that one launched I actually priced it out so the first

1054
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:23,920
Intel-based MacBooks the second ones I was looking at them cuz man they're

1055
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:28,840
beautiful machines I mean until um until we had PC manufacturers like

1056
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:33,360
Acer building stuff like this I love my S7 although the New Gen S7 oh my

1057
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:37,320
goodness I need one uh fixes all my complaints about this one better battery

1058
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:41,520
life better touchpad ah little slightly thinner anyway so before that we didn't

1059
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,040
have a PC manufacturer who was even close to Apple in terms of the build

1060
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:48,960
quality of their machines now we have Acer we have Razer we have the ASUS

1061
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,560
Zenbook Infinity the landscape has changed so I was pricing those out and

1062
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:58,920
the reality of it was if you give couple even a couple bucks for having a better

1063
01:15:56,159 --> 01:16:02,920
chassis and that costs money trust me it cost money in the tooling it cost money

1064
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:07,960
in the actual manufacturer of each unit they were pretty competitive at launch

1065
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:11,199
the problem is that Apple doesn't update their pricing in any way and a lot of

1066
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:16,520
the time they're not updating the product so you looked at something like the last generation Mac Pro where the

1067
01:16:14,679 --> 01:16:20,040
graphics card options were a complete joke like it was just stupid we're

1068
01:16:18,679 --> 01:16:26,239
looking at graphics cards that are like do do they really even make these

1069
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:28,400
anymore but at launch it was fine and it

1070
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:32,520
made sense so buying something like a Mac Pro right now if you want to be

1071
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:36,600
Forward Thinking and you want to you know have that Thunderbolt connectivity

1072
01:16:34,639 --> 01:16:40,199
and all that stuff may actually make sense it's probably reasonably

1073
01:16:38,679 --> 01:16:45,840
competitive with the other solutions that are out there if you want the functionality that it enables but and

1074
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,960
this is that double-edged sword because part of what makes that Mac Pro last so

1075
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,000
long is the fact that Apple's not going to significantly update their hardware

1076
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:57,600
and they're not going to significantly update their pricing so if you were to hold out for 3 years and be shopping for

1077
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,920
a workstation again it's probably not going to make a whole lot of sense by

1078
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:05,320
then we're going to have Ivory Bridge e or Haswell e or whatever Next Generation

1079
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:09,440
platform that's available on the desktop if you build yourself a proper Tower um

1080
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:14,600
you're going to have I mean still internal expansion is going to be king

1081
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:16,760
for a while um SATA 3 is not going to be

1082
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:21,679
too slow for hard drives for a really long time even though ssds are outpacing

1083
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:24,280
it already so if you wait a few years a desktop's going to make a lot more sense

1084
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:29,520
than something like a Mac Pro it's all about timing buying an Apple at launch

1085
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:33,159
good idea buying an apple sort of a year after launch when they're close to

1086
01:17:30,639 --> 01:17:38,880
another refresh is a terrible terrible value so there you go that's my take on

1087
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:41,040
the new Mac Pro oh yeah I mean another

1088
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:47,320
example when uh when Apple first launched the iMac with the 2560 X 1440

1089
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:49,920
IPS display built-in it was slim it was

1090
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:54,560
sexy the hardware spec was outstanding I tried someone asked me lonus can I build

1091
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:58,280
a PC like this for this price I want to buy a PC but otherwise I'm just going to

1092
01:17:56,440 --> 01:18:02,600
buy the iMac and I tried to make a PC that was competitive and the part that I

1093
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:09,560
kept getting stuck on was that gorgeous 27in display PCS took the PC guys took

1094
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:12,480
so long to figure out that high resolution displays don't need to be

1095
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:17,040
that expensive this was before you could get cheap ones on eBay so I was really

1096
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:21,679
frustrated cuz I was like no I I can't build you an equivalent machine because

1097
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:25,199
that display is really expensive to buy Standalone and and that's one of the

1098
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,360
things that Apple's so good at I mean those AMD gpus those workstation grade

1099
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:32,639
graphics cards if you really want workstation grade cards and you're buying a PC you want it to compete with

1100
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:40,040
Mac Pro you're probably going to have a hard time right now but that'll change anyway so I'm done with that now um ah

1101
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:44,159
yes AMD are actually you know what Let's do

1102
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:49,480
let's do Xboxes launching in 21 countries what are they

1103
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:52,320
high so the the headline here from Jam

1104
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:56,840
dude on the Forum is Xbox One unplayable and 18 countries so if you check out the

1105
01:18:54,159 --> 01:19:00,560
article on game debate I really hope that this is just like I mean I'm going

1106
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:05,199
to list the countries that you can actually play in Xbox or one game in

1107
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:11,880
like I'm going to list the ones you can because it's a much shorter list than the ones you can't Australia Austria

1108
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:16,040
Belgium Brazil Canada Denmark Finland France Germany Ireland Italy Mexico

1109
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:22,040
Netherlands New Zealand Norway Russia Spain Sweden Switzerland United Kingdom

1110
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:24,880
and United States seriously so okay no

1111
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:30,440
India no China so right right there bam that's a third of the world gone done

1112
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,679
there's your market cap um no Japan I

1113
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:35,440
mean the odds of any of them actually buying an Xbox one anyway I suppose are

1114
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:40,560
pretty slim because you know Sony and Rah R and all that but really no grease

1115
01:19:39,159 --> 01:19:45,239
okay maybe no one there can afford one anyway but I'm starting to see a pattern

1116
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:51,600
here no no but seriously I mean not having not having the product available

1117
01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:53,840
in these territories is just um

1118
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:58,960
unbelievable to me I mean no no Poland no Argentina no Peru no I mean the only

1119
01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:03,440
country in all of South America where you're going to be able to use an Xbox

1120
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:09,360
One is Brazil and yeah Brazil is a really important market right now for a

1121
01:20:05,639 --> 01:20:11,760
lot of business but no Portugal so

1122
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:17,280
heaven forbid that you're someone who lives in Spain and you get a job offer

1123
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:19,800
in Portugal and you move there and it's

1124
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:25,600
going to be region locked the software titles won't work you won't be I mean

1125
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:29,320
I I I'm I'm running out of gas on this one

1126
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:35,880
because I don't even know what there is to say so we're going to go to the Twitter boards what do you guys think of

1127
01:20:32,639 --> 01:20:37,960
Xbox One launching in whatever it is 21

1128
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:41,400
countries which is just the most ludicrous thing apparently I'm slightly

1129
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:46,800
out of focus I'm not too worried about that right now because I'm

1130
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:51,560
tired um host said the cost of an Xbox One the

1131
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:56,040
look on his face and the lack of response in the crowd oh okay sure uh

1132
01:20:54,159 --> 01:20:59,239
spec out 27in IMAX gives way better performance per dollar than a Mac Pro

1133
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:03,719
IMO that's cool but I mean remember it's always in flux um when things get

1134
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:08,400
updated or don't get updated personal rig living at home yeah the personal rig

1135
01:21:05,719 --> 01:21:13,520
will be staying at home I super sad about the uh the fact that I'm going to

1136
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:16,040
have to move my 10 gabit uh Network

1137
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:19,320
infrastructure to the office here I'm so sad about that cuz I've been enjoying

1138
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:23,040
that and then I'm also going to have to move my like Wicked Nas machine so I'm

1139
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:29,239
going to have to go back to to being a mere mortal with a Nas instead of having

1140
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:31,920
my arica 24 Port raid card with like my

1141
01:21:29,239 --> 01:21:39,120
like Beast raid six array and all that um yeah boo boo boo anyway have you ever

1142
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:42,880
done any system admin work before like active directory system no I haven't uh

1143
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:46,360
invite the guy from fractal he'll join us again at some point uh could you do a

1144
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:50,120
custom water cooling loop from a PC please nope sorry uh go check out the

1145
01:21:48,679 --> 01:21:53,840
Forum there's lots of people who know as much as I do about water cooling if not

1146
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,840
more what's your your opinion on iOS 7 you know what I think Marcus brownley

1147
01:21:55,199 --> 01:22:01,040
actually covered this really well so if you guys haven't checked out any of his

1148
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:05,600
videos before uh youtube.com/ it's it's kind of a weird

1149
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:10,320
spelling of Marcus but there we go youtube.com/ Marcus brownley go check

1150
01:22:07,679 --> 01:22:15,920
him out he does great videos and he has one here called where iOS 7 features

1151
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:20,440
come from and it's basically it's it's kind of like uh it's kind of like Tex

1152
01:22:18,159 --> 01:22:24,159
syic kit has Apple ever really invented anything video where it really looks at

1153
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:28,080
where the ideas for these in all likelihood came from Xbox one will only

1154
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:33,440
have a 500 gig hard drive which can't be replaced yeah uh that to me is actually

1155
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:38,199
one of the most insane things about Xbox one I was even uh I was actually giving

1156
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:41,480
I I mean you guys probably know this if you follow at all what we've been doing

1157
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:45,480
for the last week or so but I was at computex with WD and we were hanging out

1158
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:51,040
with those guys like every other day and at one point I was just like guys what's

1159
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:53,760
the deal how did you let Microsoft get

1160
01:22:51,040 --> 01:23:00,320
away with some Goofy proprietary hard drive that can't be replaced and is 500

1161
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:04,560
gigs I mean Western Digital is showing

1162
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:08,120
was showing off at computex 7 mm 1 tbte

1163
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:10,600
drives they're not even expensive 500

1164
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:15,080
gigs is last gen already that's last gen that's like unbelievable that this is

1165
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:19,920
acceptable in this day and age and when you consider that Xbox one has a Blu-ray

1166
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:23,000
player we're going to be looking at games that you're going to be able to

1167
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,880
fill your Xbox with what

1168
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:34,520
like like about 20 gigs per disc so five

1169
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:37,880
like 25 games your Xbox one will be full

1170
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:40,199
I know people who have like an order of

1171
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,480
magnitude larger game libraries than that for a given console and the fact

1172
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:48,040
that you're not going to be able to run off the disc that's one of the most insane things about Xbox One to me in

1173
01:23:46,199 --> 01:23:52,159
fact that particular spec doesn't seem to be getting as much attention as I

1174
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:57,520
think it should be uh Tech you with an SSD in the back pocket but uh something

1175
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,320
I think we're too zoomed in right now cuz for some reason I'm not able to see

1176
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:05,280
people's whole tweets but a mortal Network at home well it's still still be

1177
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:09,400
gigabit I mean what is that test bench I've seen you using it's a high-speed PC

1178
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:12,840
tech station CD project red can even play their own game in their own home

1179
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,600
country on the Xbox One yes that is a big problem it's okay no one cares about

1180
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:22,000
Xbox one we'll wait patiently for PS4 yeah that's going to be a big problem too I I suspect PS4 is going to be just

1181
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:26,480
as bad at some point course our k95 video

1182
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:29,520
soon I don't know if you uh I don't know

1183
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:30,920
if you spotted this or not but yes k95

1184
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:37,320
video will be coming soon this is actually um that shelf

1185
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:40,760
behind me is serving as sort of a 2B unboxed pile so there's a lot of stuff

1186
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:46,280
on there that's going to be unboxed over the next little bit wait for the 4930k

1187
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:50,159
or pick up a 3930k now honestly 4930k is not going to be rocket science

1188
01:24:48,679 --> 01:24:55,600
in terms of the performance benefit you're going to get it's going to be

1189
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:59,280
Ivy Bridge or pardon me Sandy Bridge versus Ivy Bridge so we're going to be

1190
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:02,400
looking at about 10% Improvement in IPC and it's going to overclock slightly

1191
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:07,280
less just like on the mainstream platform so personally I I don't know if

1192
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:13,320
I'd wait it's going to be on the same platform x79 Mac Pro equals trash can

1193
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:17,000
for your spare Hardware not really um not familiar with that unfortunately

1194
01:25:15,159 --> 01:25:20,679
since Poland yeah yeah Witcher three Deads cannot play their own game on a

1195
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:24,520
retail is the online requirement that perfects Xbox One from same reason games

1196
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:28,400
from Windows Live is only available in the same 27 countries yeah I'm in

1197
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,119
Portugal and can't buy one not that I would buy one anyway all right can you

1198
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:36,520
please talk about shadowplay on the gtx700 series is it a built-in capture

1199
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:42,239
card or is it just software it's both um all Kepler gpus have built-in h264

1200
01:25:39,679 --> 01:25:50,480
encoding which means that as long as the card is capable of displaying the output

1201
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:53,080
okay which it is um and it has the h264

1202
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:57,520
built-in encoder it can very quickly and easily with very little overhead take

1203
01:25:55,280 --> 01:26:02,080
that video stream and it can make it into a small lightweight file that is uh

1204
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:06,560
going to still be very high quality so it's very very cool uh GTX 260 I am not

1205
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:11,400
convinced there's any good reason to have a dedicated physx card I've never really seen a benefit all right all

1206
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:20,440
right all right so Drew wants me to talk about AMD's upcoming 5 GHz CPU so let's

1207
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:23,840
go check that out so AMD has been pretty

1208
01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:25,520
serious business about picking up where

1209
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:29,760
their competitors are leaving off in terms of things like gaming bundles and

1210
01:26:27,719 --> 01:26:37,480
in terms of things like catering to the Enthusiast so AMD's new FX

1211
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:38,360
9590 was on display at E3 with a Radeon

1212
01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:43,400
HD 7990 this was submitted by Sir numbers

1213
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:48,560
and okay the system is powered by 16 gigs of RAM new AMD Hardware so I've had

1214
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:54,119
a lot of people tweeting at me about this CPU so the

1215
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:56,119
CPU will be be pile driver based we

1216
01:26:54,119 --> 01:27:00,520
already know this because AMD already said several times we don't have a new

1217
01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:05,080
CPU architecture coming this year it'll be somewhat refined but because it's

1218
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:08,760
pile driver based because we're not looking at a new process node because

1219
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:13,520
we're not looking at a new architecture it will be a power hog and it will

1220
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:17,000
output a ton of heat we also know that it's not going to overclock that much

1221
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:23,840
people have been asking me how do you think this chip will perform it will

1222
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:26,320
perform wait for it

1223
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:30,960
suspense moment it will perform just like an 8350

1224
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:36,080
at 5 GHz I'm G let that sink

1225
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:40,239
in I don't know I get I get a kick out of this like when people ask me how do

1226
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:44,199
you think uh before the GTX 770 launched how do you think 770 is going to perform

1227
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:48,639
based on what we already know about it which is that it's very similar to GTX

1228
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:52,840
680 but it has faster memory to which I would reply it will perform just like a

1229
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:57,840
680 but it'll have faster memory so probably in higher resolution it's going

1230
01:27:54,280 --> 01:28:00,440
to do better and yay um so we're looking

1231
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:06,000
at a very similar situation is this very cool yes I hope that AMD does what they

1232
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:10,280
need to do to capture the hearts of the enthusiasts to sell more of these chips

1233
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,800
I think it's good for their business I think being able to drive up their asps

1234
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:17,000
is very positive I hope they bring some bundles into it you look at what they've

1235
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:21,000
been doing on apus with things like Sim City bundles and as unpopular as Sim

1236
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:23,560
City might be it's still a game people are still playing with it and comes for

1237
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:27,639
free with your CPU you can't really complain too much about it if they do

1238
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:31,880
the same things they're doing on the graphic side with CPU we might be

1239
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:35,560
looking at a rejuvenated AMD that is able to sell some CPUs and if they're

1240
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:40,360
able to sell some CPUs they're going to have some money to dump back into R&D so

1241
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:45,000
that they can develop better CPUs and there's no one who is more happy than

1242
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:51,760
any hardware Enthusiast to see a strong AMD because a strong AMD means Intel

1243
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:54,280
cannot be complacent and cannot ignore

1244
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:58,840
the Enthusiast because the enthusiasts even though they're a very small Market

1245
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:03,400
segment in terms of sales are Extremely Loud and they drive sales in the other

1246
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:07,960
market segments so as long as AMD is competitive it is very very very good

1247
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:11,360
news for the Enthusiast I mean the rumors I don't know if it's true or not

1248
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:18,920
I've seen some tweets tonight about a 200 watt TDP for the chip that's that's

1249
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:21,159
awesome I guess that's crazy I mean I

1250
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:25,960
personally don't really care about the TDP of my CPU as far as I'm concerned

1251
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:30,520
bring it on give me a good reason to have a th000 wat power supply I have one

1252
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:35,080
anyway bring it on give me a good reason to have water cooling I have it anyway

1253
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:40,239
um so I personally don't care but there will be situations where it'll be a

1254
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:45,679
problem I mean I would I probably wouldn't deploy a 9590 or whatever they

1255
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:49,480
end up calling it in my uh in my computer room and the reason for that is

1256
01:29:47,639 --> 01:29:55,280
I'm right above my garage and it gets extremely hot in the summer as it is

1257
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:58,000
with the GTX 590 in there the 5870

1258
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:00,840
that's in my wife's machine as well as the fact that I'm running a six core

1259
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:05,560
already and remember this will be a significantly higher heat output than my

1260
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:09,800
six core is already that room already gets really hot and when you turn on the

1261
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:14,080
computers it gets really hot and having hotter computers is definitely a bad

1262
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:18,560
thing so um yeah I think I think it's great I think it's cool I think it's

1263
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:22,360
fine that AMD's first to the 5 GHz barrier I think Intel could have done it

1264
01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:25,840
if they'd cared um I think could have done it sooner if they'd cared as well

1265
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:30,440
but we've been on a rush to sort of more cores as opposed to higher frequency for

1266
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:33,480
a while so I think it's more just like a feather in the cap as opposed to

1267
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:37,920
something that's actually meaningful but I think that if AMD is going to continue

1268
01:30:36,199 --> 01:30:42,080
to cater to enthusiasts and Gamers I think that's a really really positive thing it's good for their business it's

1269
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:46,520
good for gamers it's good for the industry all right I'm I'm going to lose

1270
01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:52,480
my voice eventually here so we're probably going to have to uh we're probably going to have to sort of call

1271
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:56,920
this quits pretty soon here guys can I use an h100i fan list with and the

1272
01:30:55,639 --> 01:31:01,960
question continues but I'm already going to tell you

1273
01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:04,040
no oh fanless for idle no probably not

1274
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:07,880
um you're probably going to need to have at least them spinning at sort of 300

1275
01:31:05,639 --> 01:31:12,239
400 RPM how come you guys left the booth babes out of the computex coverage it

1276
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:16,520
was by request uh the NSA got to Linus rip Linus guys

1277
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:22,080
what um if all I want to do is game and I don't care about TV and stuff what's

1278
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:24,880
better PS4 or Xbox One with any console it's always going to come down to

1279
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:30,000
exclusive titles anyway so whichever one has the titles you want to play so there

1280
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:31,280
you go not selling the Xbox One in China

1281
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:35,600
so it is made in the Asia region they won't be selling it there well yeah I mean they'll probably add more countries

1282
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:39,080
at some point and remember a lot of the problems with selling it are not going

1283
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:42,280
to be necessarily Microsoft's fault at all sometimes there are regulations that

1284
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:46,360
prevent them from easily being able to import them and integrate their services

1285
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:50,000
so we'll see how it goes you should use Google Voice instead yes I probably

1286
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:53,679
should I have a paid Skype account right now I'm not that happy with it and uh

1287
01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:58,520
diesel has a Google Voice account and he's very happy with it so have you seen

1288
01:31:55,960 --> 01:32:02,679
the new Macbook Pro it is a trash can it's a very powerful very cool piece of

1289
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:07,360
Hardware is what it actually is but sure um thoughts on E3 honestly I've

1290
01:32:05,719 --> 01:32:11,080
paid so little attention to the E3 coverage other than the ongoing train

1291
01:32:09,159 --> 01:32:15,800
wreck that is Microsoft's PR for the Xbox one so unfortunately I can't really

1292
01:32:14,199 --> 01:32:19,080
comment I'm sure Slick's been paying more attention to it than I have so

1293
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,960
we'll have a bit more of uh a bit more of a discussion on the gaming side of

1294
01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:29,080
things uh probably next week I would think this is weird this thing shifted

1295
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:32,600
this uh this thing I can see through it now to the

1296
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:36,560
background um okay three new interactions please talk about the

1297
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:41,880
Haswell controversy where Intel Cherry Picked review samples and Retail chips

1298
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:45,600
run significantly hotter um you know

1299
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:47,920
what I I I I I heard sort of caught wind

1300
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:54,760
of it I'm not aware that that's anything that actually happened and honestly um

1301
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:58,280
from my experience with guys like um

1302
01:32:54,760 --> 01:33:00,760
Hardware manufacturers who aren't Intel

1303
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:05,880
I I really doubt it I think the the problem here is that the people who are

1304
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:10,239
getting okay so couple things number one is when I got briefed on Haswell by the

1305
01:33:08,440 --> 01:33:13,800
motherboard guys not by Intel they basically said look there's a huge range

1306
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:18,080
there's going to be ones that are awesome there's going to be ones that are totally bunk when it comes to

1307
01:33:16,679 --> 01:33:23,840
overclocking and there's going to be a lot in between um I had the opportunity

1308
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:28,239
to have my hands on a cherry I had a cherry-picked CPU directly from JJ it

1309
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:34,199
was his second best one out of I think he B about 50 or 60 of them and that was

1310
01:33:31,159 --> 01:33:35,199
in case my sample from Intel was a

1311
01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:39,199
horrendous overclocker um and I couldn't actually

1312
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:43,040
do my overclocking guide and show any kind of reasonable result whatsoever

1313
01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:47,520
because the JJ has had his hands personally on chips that were not very

1314
01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:50,920
good overclockers at all so that to me indicates a couple of things number one

1315
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:54,800
is there's a range out there and the guys who get a bunk chip are very likely

1316
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:58,040
to be the ones complaining that their Haswell chip runs hot or doesn't

1317
01:33:56,199 --> 01:34:03,239
overclock very well okay so but we already knew this at least I knew this

1318
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:08,000
uh number two is that indicates to me that even ASUS so in the case of JJ

1319
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:13,480
having a ton of chips to bin from got everything from great ones to not very

1320
01:34:09,639 --> 01:34:17,400
good ones okay so not all the es were

1321
01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:19,360
Cherry Picked my es is very mediocre

1322
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:24,639
very run-of-the-mill it's an Intel confidential chip so it's probably as

1323
01:34:22,119 --> 01:34:28,280
review sample as anyone else's and it's middle of the road maybe a little bit on

1324
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:32,679
the better side um I thought it was better than it actually was when I was

1325
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:36,480
filming the video but what happened was JJ explained to me there are a few more

1326
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,119
things that I could do to push it that would indicate if it was a really good

1327
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:44,119
one or not and it's kind of I think it's about top 35% or so but it's nothing

1328
01:34:42,199 --> 01:34:47,440
super super special or anything like that um so I think what's happening is

1329
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:51,080
people are getting Haswell chips they're not happy with them and they're complaining whereas the people that are

1330
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:54,920
getting them and they are happy with them are are not complaining um and

1331
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:59,480
honestly again this is one of those things where I kind of go well I'm used

1332
01:34:56,639 --> 01:35:04,360
to this I've seen this before um not necessarily I don't think either Intel

1333
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:09,719
or AMD has particularly cherry-picked review sample CPUs in a long time I

1334
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:13,800
don't think they really focus on the Enthusiast overclocking scene as much as

1335
01:35:12,159 --> 01:35:18,560
they used to to the extent where they actually used to go through and like bin

1336
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:22,600
CPUs for famous overclockers like Thugger and there was a huge controversy

1337
01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:29,040
over that these days I know for a fact Andre Yang who won um eight of the

1338
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:31,840
events at the OC main event at computex

1339
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:36,320
B his own CPUs Intel didn't bin them for them for him and send them to him so I

1340
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:40,320
don't think they really do it anymore with all that said I don't know this for

1341
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:45,520
a fact this is all my speculation based on what I know so I I don't know if that

1342
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:51,119
happened um anyway so we used to have to do this anyway there was a time when you

1343
01:35:48,199 --> 01:35:55,119
know um even something like a 2500 plus which was was a legendary chip some of

1344
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,440
them were great overclockers most of them were pretty good overclockers and

1345
01:35:56,480 --> 01:36:02,480
some of them weren't very good mine wasn't very good um I'm just trying to

1346
01:35:59,639 --> 01:36:06,080
think if my optron 165 wasn't that great it was a little bit better than my 4400

1347
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:13,719
plus but not much and they were supposed to be amazing overclockers um my e6600 was awesome I

1348
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:18,520
had that thing at 4 GHz 247 mind you I had chilled liquid on it what else when

1349
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:21,920
have I ever had like a like a bunk chip I mean my 7870 doesn't overclock worth

1350
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:27,280
the damn um even though it's an MSI whatever

1351
01:36:24,440 --> 01:36:31,239
aftermarket cooler in custom PCB I mean sometimes a chip just doesn't overclock

1352
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:34,800
and that's bad luck and with Haswell I already knew and I know some of the

1353
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:39,679
manufacturers already knew there was going to be a much wider larger

1354
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:43,400
percentage of chips that just weren't going to overclock so it used to be on

1355
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:47,920
forums like extreme systems or extreme overclocking back in the day that there

1356
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:52,040
was a very regular turning through of chips like people would actually be able

1357
01:36:49,880 --> 01:37:01,080
to sell a golden chip or a decent overclocker for more than retail price

1358
01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:01,080
and oh uh-oh my battery died

1359
01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:23,199
okay

1360
01:37:52,360 --> 01:38:00,880
okay I guess we're back sort of this is my battery that's dead uh I don't have

1361
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:02,159
the charger for the fs700 here so I uh

1362
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:07,280
yeah there's a lot of stuff that's not moved to the new place it's actually going to be a really busy weekend this

1363
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:12,040
weekend so yeah it's going to be going to be kind of crazy uh you know what I

1364
01:38:09,159 --> 01:38:19,400
should probably do is I should probably do the uh the build of the

1365
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:22,280
week uh I had oh oh snap I had one sent

1366
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:27,639
to me that the uh the mod team wanted me to include so there we go I'm G to go

1367
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:33,400
ahead and grab this one oh apparently audio's out I wonder

1368
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:36,400
why audio is out it's very strange

1369
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,320
BL

1370
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:48,800
H doop I don't know if there's anything I

1371
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,800
can do about that right

1372
01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:55,360
now hm I didn't change

1373
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:06,239
anything M Audio you

1374
01:39:10,159 --> 01:39:14,719
say check check check check check check

1375
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:21,440
check it's definitely getting picked up by the camera 3 to 4 seconds I don't

1376
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:26,280
know what 3 to 4 seconds means man got messages that I don't understand so

1377
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:31,800
hopefully the uh hopefully the audio is back now I have no idea oh audio is out

1378
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:36,199
audio is desin ah I see well I think there's

1379
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:40,199
something we can actually do about that if I go in here and I refresh this it'll

1380
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:46,760
either crash the stream did it fix it hopefully we're

1381
01:39:43,599 --> 01:39:50,599
good all right so let's do our system of

1382
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,590
the week so apparently I have a thing in

1383
01:39:50,599 --> 01:39:55,100
here

1384
01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:02,560
yeah I'm getting uh getting Skype messages that are like my bad and I'm

1385
01:39:59,440 --> 01:40:04,000
like yeah way to way to go way to be

1386
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:08,800
like helping me and not doing it adequately

1387
01:40:06,239 --> 01:40:13,440
enough all right so we have two different system builds of the week and

1388
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:19,440
we are going to look at for a limited time only

1389
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:21,000
by this all right add screen region and

1390
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:27,280
we're just going to add the whole screen so you guys will see all my junk so

1391
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:30,800
first up is Andre vur with Andre's

1392
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:34,760
personal z77 rig so this is the more

1393
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:37,159
attainable rig and yes that is

1394
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:43,000
another uh oh wait no that isn't that's uh what wow I'm uh I'm I'm losing it

1395
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:48,920
here what is that a 650d I don't even know that's a 650d

1396
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:53,159
right I haven't seen a 650d in so long I

1397
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:56,320
don't think that's a 650d someone help

1398
01:40:53,159 --> 01:40:58,040
me apparently I just shouldn't even do

1399
01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:01,520
system build of the week because I there's a reason I leave this to Slick

1400
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:06,440
yeah apparently it is a 650d so he's got an Noctua NH uh D14 although oh my

1401
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:12,040
goodness okay you know what we're not doing system of the week yet because

1402
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:15,480
holy freaking crap oh and also I had this like super small you guys were

1403
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:20,599
looking at this the whole time see this this this is this is this is terrible um

1404
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:24,639
okay so KN to his booth at computex I actually had a lot of people asking me

1405
01:41:22,679 --> 01:41:30,159
what was your like favorite thing you saw at computex their active noise

1406
01:41:27,199 --> 01:41:35,080
cancellation heat sink is unreal it works they had the demo they had there

1407
01:41:33,119 --> 01:41:38,440
had the heat sink and it had a shroud over it it had a fan in the middle so

1408
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:42,360
the Shroud serves a number of purposes allowing the air to be channeled more

1409
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:46,239
directly so they figured with one fan they were able to get similar

1410
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:50,440
performance to the successor to the NHD 14 that they also had on display there

1411
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:53,679
okay so it channels the air flow better and the Shroud creates a controlled

1412
01:41:52,360 --> 01:42:00,199
environment for the active noise cancellation that basically vibrates the

1413
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:02,119
blades to cancel out the noise of the

1414
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:06,280
spinning of the blades they had a microphone next to the heat sink that

1415
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:10,639
you could put on like noise cancelling headphones you could actually hear it in

1416
01:42:08,119 --> 01:42:14,679
the hall and they could go active noise cancelling on active noise cancelling

1417
01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:18,400
off and you can ah you can hear the difference so it's not one of those

1418
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:21,760
things where it's like they've created a completely silent fan that makes no

1419
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:26,080
noise it doesn't work that way way but what they've done is they've taken the

1420
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,080
fan noise from

1421
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:34,880
like pardon my humming to like like it's a much lower hum and it

1422
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:41,360
basically sounds like much lower RPM fan operation except that it's not it's

1423
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:44,040
freaking awesome so I am super excited

1424
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:48,080
about that anyway we can go back to our we can go back to our build of the week

1425
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:52,080
which I have completely lost now and have no idea where it is anymore I

1426
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:56,599
downloaded it there it is all right so we're going to go back to scene

1427
01:42:53,599 --> 01:42:59,159
4 and we're going to put this one on

1428
01:42:56,599 --> 01:43:05,239
wait what there we go all right so we've got a 650d knock to a fans which I of

1429
01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:07,440
course am thrilled to see NHD 14 MSI

1430
01:43:05,239 --> 01:43:10,599
twin frozer 3 graphics card ax850 extremely clean Cable Management this is

1431
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:16,599
the kind of build that pretty much anyone can do you can see how the SATA cables are routed very nicely here I

1432
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:19,400
love when things line up like this so you can take the right angle SATA cables

1433
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:25,679
right out of here this is one of the benefits someone asked me earlier on the stream about 24 pin power connectors

1434
01:43:23,639 --> 01:43:28,719
having a a right angle 24 pin power connectors it' be great to have that

1435
01:43:27,159 --> 01:43:33,159
somewhere like here so you wouldn't have to have this Loop coming up here and it

1436
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:34,639
could be even cleaner in fact I'd be

1437
01:43:33,159 --> 01:43:38,360
this would be kind of cool to see a graphics card manufacturer put the Power

1438
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:41,719
connectors on the bottom of the graphics card so you wouldn't even have to run

1439
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:45,280
these cables over here you could have a machine that almost looks entirely

1440
01:43:43,239 --> 01:43:47,800
cable-free so here's the SATA cables for this and then everything in here is

1441
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:51,480
tucked in here love modular power supplies for this very clean cable

1442
01:43:49,719 --> 01:43:55,440
routing on the back I personally don't have the discipline to do this I always

1443
01:43:53,239 --> 01:44:00,480
end up with a Rat's Nest on the back but when people do it it looks

1444
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:02,719
fantastic this one is awesome actually I

1445
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:06,840
had picked one that the uh that the Forum moderation team did not give me

1446
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:13,320
and this was the one that I picked to Showcase so this is G5 by

1447
01:44:09,480 --> 01:44:15,639
Sha and check that out so his build log

1448
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:18,400
is awesome it has a ton of different pictures check out the build log section

1449
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:22,719
of the Forum go look for these two builds so he took a g5k so remember guys

1450
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:28,119
this is the old G5 with one optical drive completely gutted it and did a

1451
01:44:25,639 --> 01:44:32,000
sweet liquid cool build in fact these two

1452
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:37,040
pictures that were picked out by the mod team were actually the same two pictures

1453
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:42,840
I picked out for my own gelled Wings looks outstanding beautiful compression

1454
01:44:39,239 --> 01:44:45,400
fittings SLI graphics cards man this

1455
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:49,440
thing looks nice uh and check out the builds of the week thread in the forum

1456
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:54,119
for links to these so that you can go and see all the details that go into

1457
01:44:51,599 --> 01:44:58,920
creating Machines of this caliber they are absolutely outstanding and we are

1458
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:03,400
just so thrilled to have like that kind of awesome stuff going on on our Forum

1459
01:45:01,440 --> 01:45:06,719
um next actually I actually have another topic that I did want to talk about EA

1460
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:15,000
wants to stop being hated good luck with that so that was submitted on the Forum

1461
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:17,239
by da oh whoa what why is Cloud Player

1462
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:21,239
doing something here oh

1463
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:25,520
okay uh huh well can't find it anymore sorry

1464
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:29,440
apparently thread's gone uh if people oh this is something if people change the

1465
01:45:27,679 --> 01:45:34,040
uh the titles of their threads on the Forum the links all die so I don't

1466
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:37,400
recommend doing that uh but EA wants to stop being hated let's see if they

1467
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:41,639
decide to Buck trends like um not requiring games to phone home as often

1468
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:46,159
as they can I mean Microsoft's made it pretty clear the stuff like always on is

1469
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:50,280
at the discretion of a Game Dev so if EA wants to not be hated they're going to

1470
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:56,840
have to speak with actions not words and I just kind of doubt it right now um PCI

1471
01:45:54,159 --> 01:46:01,520
Express ssds on the new Macbook Air so an onch had an article about this I'm

1472
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:06,440
going to link first to The Forum submission that linked to the anch

1473
01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:08,599
article so this was from K canine or

1474
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:11,719
whatever however I say that so Apple didn't say it during the show but it

1475
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:15,599
seems the MacBook Air got more than just a CPU upgrade the transfer speeds are

1476
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:22,119
far higher than any SATA 3 disc and averages around 790 megabytes per second

1477
01:46:18,599 --> 01:46:23,719
reads and 740 megab per second rights

1478
01:46:22,119 --> 01:46:29,480
the flip side however seems to be that it's a proprietary solution so no

1479
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:32,280
unfortunately this is not an m2a

1480
01:46:29,480 --> 01:46:36,560
solution or ntg F or whatever that standard is that's PCI Express based SSD

1481
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:40,840
this is a proprietary solution so you probably will get aftermarket upgrades

1482
01:46:38,119 --> 01:46:45,119
at some point but it'll take a while at best and I mean that's just like Apple's

1483
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:49,400
way of doing things and I'm going to have a bit of an unpopular opinion here

1484
01:46:47,599 --> 01:46:52,400
but um

1485
01:46:54,199 --> 01:47:02,400
I okay even when we went okay when we went from hard drives to ssds we had a

1486
01:46:59,639 --> 01:47:08,159
technology change ssds are dramatically faster than hard drives for random

1487
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:13,400
operations random operations so even

1488
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:16,040
compared to the SATA 2 interface an SSD

1489
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:20,840
that's being re read from or written to very heavily very randomly is not

1490
01:47:18,719 --> 01:47:24,880
saturating that bus because we're still limited by the Nan Flash and that's

1491
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:29,800
going to continue to be an issue as process node shrink the flash inherently

1492
01:47:27,199 --> 01:47:34,800
gets less high performance as we move to Technologies like TLC particularly right

1493
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:40,239
speed is going to be lower performance so okay already for the part of your

1494
01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:43,320
computer where we're really benefiting from an SSD which is not sequential

1495
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:47,599
reads and writs because you don't copy files back and forth all day

1496
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:52,719
folks we already didn't even care that much about SATA 3 so you go back and

1497
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:56,920
look at SATA 3 ssds a lot of the first reviews uh drives like vertex 3 Did they

1498
01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:04,000
perform better you know what I got to take this I'mma put I'm going put the stream on hold for a minute sorry

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guys

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hello

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right and we're back sorry the wife called had

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01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:28,760
to take that very important very important call because if I don't take

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01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:34,800
that call I'm stuck here Boll left without me so there okay uh unpopular

1504
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:39,520
opinion I don't think it matters that much until we see a dramatic Improvement

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01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:43,599
in the complexity of the controllers and until we see some kind of change in the

1506
01:49:42,119 --> 01:49:47,360
storage medium that we're using on these drives because nand is not getting high

1507
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:50,320
performance particularly over time I mean we can spread it out over more

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01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:54,400
channels but then we're looking at at a controller complexity increase which we

1509
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:58,880
haven't really seen much of in the last little while anyway uh or we can switch

1510
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:04,599
to something other than nand I have no idea what the future holds in terms of storage but you can much like hard

1511
01:50:02,440 --> 01:50:09,719
drives being the be all and end all forever not uh s uh Nan flash is not the

1512
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:15,960
be all and end all forever necessarily either so back when SATA 3 ssds first

1513
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:21,920
launched a lot of the reviews took the time to test all the SATA 2 ssds on SATA

1514
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:26,119
2 controllers all the SATA 3 ssds on SATA 2 controllers and all the SATA 3

1515
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:30,920
ssds on SATA 3 controllers and while we saw particularly in things like Peak

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01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:36,480
reads and writes dramatic improvements going from SATA 2 to SATA 3

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01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:38,920
for these enabled drives when it came to

1518
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:43,880
more real world simulated testing things like PC Mark or things like an on Tech

1519
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,440
storage bench the difference wasn't that

1520
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:50,920
dramatic I mean yeah it's great to get another 10% or another 20% but when

1521
01:50:48,079 --> 01:50:55,960
we're talking about a world where most people are still using hard drives as

1522
01:50:52,480 --> 01:50:58,440
opposed to ssds anyway um the upgrade

1523
01:50:55,960 --> 01:51:04,239
from a hard drive to an SSD versus the upgrade from an SSD to a SATA 3 SSD or a

1524
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:07,280
PCI Express based SSD this upgrade is not going to be that significant

1525
01:51:05,480 --> 01:51:10,800
compared to this one and much like going from a single core to a dual core and

1526
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:14,560
then going from a dual core to a quad core really didn't impress people the

1527
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:19,560
same way that it did sort of the first time around so 800 megab per second

1528
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:23,599
sequential are cool but sequential haven't meant anything in a very long

1529
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:28,239
time and another step toward okay this is

1530
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:31,800
probably to me what this looks like is another step towards putting storage

1531
01:51:29,639 --> 01:51:36,119
directly on motherboards on the desktop I suspect within another 5 years um we

1532
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:42,480
may see soldered CPUs we may see soldered storage you might buy like you

1533
01:51:40,119 --> 01:51:46,320
might just buy a computer like there might be like a core i7 computer an i5

1534
01:51:44,719 --> 01:51:50,639
computer and an I3 computer and that might be what we end with maybe it's not

1535
01:51:47,719 --> 01:51:56,960
5 years maybe it's 10 years but um I I I I yeah I don't know I don't

1536
01:51:54,280 --> 01:52:01,520
know how I feel about that let me see if there's anything left here and I think

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that is pretty much it for this week guys thank you so much for tuning in to

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the live stream I'm sorry there were some complications with the lateness and

1539
01:52:07,159 --> 01:52:13,000
with the sort of blacking out and the audio desync and all that stuff but you

1540
01:52:11,159 --> 01:52:17,760
guys are awesome and I appreciate you tuning in and I hope it wasn't boring

1541
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:23,639
with just me uh versus having slick here to keep all of us company and and uh

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good night everyone