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Tatjana: Hi, my name is Tatyana Devic. 2 00:00:01.634 --> 00:00:05.238 I am the raw material product developer here at Creator Warehouse. 3 00:00:05.271 --> 00:00:07.574 And then I start off with Two Truths and a Lie? 4 00:00:07.607 --> 00:00:08.008 Sammy: Yes. 5 00:00:08.041 --> 00:00:08.375 Tatjana: Okay. 6 00:00:08.408 --> 00:00:08.975 Sammy: Hahahahaha. 7 00:00:08.975 --> 00:00:13.947 Tatjana: I have played alto saxophone for seven years, is one; 8 00:00:13.947 --> 00:00:19.185 I have been featured in many fashion magazines, is two; 9 00:00:19.219 --> 00:00:21.321 and I can speak five languages. 10 00:00:21.554 --> 00:00:23.123 Sammy: Well, we'll answer at the end. 11 00:00:23.256 --> 00:00:23.289 So, as a fabric something... I- 12 00:00:23.289 --> 00:00:25.558 Sammy: So, as a material girl of the company, 13 00:00:25.592 --> 00:00:26.126 Tatjana: Yes! 14 00:00:26.326 --> 00:00:28.061 Sammy: What do you do here then? 15 00:00:28.061 --> 00:00:30.330 how I would describe my role is- 16 00:00:30.363 --> 00:00:33.566 Because it's in flux and it's different for, I mean, 17 00:00:33.566 --> 00:00:37.937 a lot of different teams for anyone who's interested in raw materials, or material science in general. 18 00:00:37.937 --> 00:00:42.075 Tatjana: Is I kind of help to bring to life a lot of the garments or products 19 00:00:42.108 --> 00:00:44.978 that the designers design and draft. 20 00:00:45.011 --> 00:00:49.249 They'll come up with a really great jacket design or a t-shirt design; 21 00:00:49.282 --> 00:00:54.521 and I come in in order to help support, source the material, the right materials; 22 00:00:54.654 --> 00:01:01.061 find and prototype those materials to make sure that they are good color facets to wash, 23 00:01:01.094 --> 00:01:04.097 and have really good durability and are very comfortable. 24 00:01:04.130 --> 00:01:08.535 And then I will test those materials when it comes to bulk to make sure 25 00:01:08.535 --> 00:01:13.006 that across the board, no matter which t-shirt you get, you're going to get the same properties; 26 00:01:13.039 --> 00:01:15.675 and it's the properties that end up getting listed on the store. 27 00:01:15.708 --> 00:01:21.448 So, I'm kind of like the middleman in between; once garments and products are designed, 28 00:01:21.481 --> 00:01:24.818 I'll help with all of the materials, the testing, 29 00:01:24.851 --> 00:01:30.790 sometimes marketing in order to make sure that it's the properties that have been tested. 30 00:01:30.790 --> 00:01:33.026 Sometimes I'll help too on the photo shoots. 31 00:01:33.026 --> 00:01:36.196 So, that's always fun in order to try and be more out of the box, 32 00:01:36.229 --> 00:01:39.666 and create some really great images that showcase our new products. 33 00:01:39.699 --> 00:01:41.801 Sammy: So, how long have you been here at the company for? 34 00:01:41.801 --> 00:01:46.072 Tatjana: I started in, end of June. 35 00:01:46.106 --> 00:01:46.706 Sammy: End of June? Okay. 36 00:01:46.706 --> 00:01:47.207 Tatjana: End of June. 37 00:01:47.373 --> 00:01:49.275 Sammy: And what kind of hobbies are you interested in? 38 00:01:49.509 --> 00:01:50.577 Tatjana: I have a lot of hobbies. 39 00:01:50.677 --> 00:01:51.978 Sammy: Hahahaha. Tatjana: Hahahahaha. 40 00:01:51.978 --> 00:01:53.313 I love working on different materials. 41 00:01:53.346 --> 00:01:58.485 It's one thing that when I did my post-grad degree in materials engineering, 42 00:01:58.518 --> 00:02:01.387 my thesis was actually on carbon fiber, 43 00:02:01.421 --> 00:02:07.360 and the usage of carbon fiber for many different applications for home use; 44 00:02:07.393 --> 00:02:12.198 So I love, one of my favorite projects was working with my boyfriend 45 00:02:12.232 --> 00:02:15.668 on creating handguards for his snowmobile. 46 00:02:15.668 --> 00:02:16.569 I sourced a really good epoxy with a 2x2 twill of a carbon fiber fiberglass. 47 00:02:16.569 --> 00:02:19.405 I sourced a really good epoxy with a 2x2 twill of a carbon fiber fiberglass. 48 00:02:19.405 --> 00:02:21.875 I sourced a really good epoxy with a 2x2 twill of a carbon fiber fiberglass. 49 00:02:21.875 --> 00:02:27.647 The fiberglass was dyed red, so it had this really nice kind of red and black motif throughout. 50 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.416 And I ended up doing a hand layup, 51 00:02:30.450 --> 00:02:34.487 and we were able to make such cool handguards for very inexpensive, 52 00:02:34.521 --> 00:02:40.560 considering that, like, some metal ones or a lot of the sheet plating ones go for a lot higher. 53 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.497 So, it was great to do fun custom stuff and to get a really nice gloss on it; 54 00:02:44.497 --> 00:02:48.168 I have a 3D printer at home, so I love 3D printing things. 55 00:02:48.168 --> 00:02:53.039 Especially anything that I can make into accessories or anything fashion-related; 56 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:58.011 I’ve always tried to 3D print with TPUs some, like, handbags or jewelry 57 00:02:58.011 --> 00:02:59.913 or fun rings and stuff like that, so I kind of- I love, even not working 58 00:02:59.913 --> 00:03:00.947 Even not working 59 00:03:00.947 --> 00:03:05.251 I've always loved just using what is in front of me and kind of like, 60 00:03:05.251 --> 00:03:07.153 making really cool and interesting things. 61 00:03:07.187 --> 00:03:08.855 Sammy: That's really cool, because that's kind of, like, 62 00:03:08.888 --> 00:03:12.325 I guess the company's motto is, like, reuse and like, 63 00:03:12.358 --> 00:03:15.128 trying to like, be more sustainable with our designs. 64 00:03:15.161 --> 00:03:16.095 Tatjana: Yeah, exactly. 65 00:03:16.129 --> 00:03:19.098 So, how you can get, like, multiple different uses, 66 00:03:19.098 --> 00:03:25.371 or all the different angles, that can be important and fun to play with, essentially. 67 00:03:25.371 --> 00:03:26.539 Tatjana: I do love gaming. 68 00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:28.908 Tatjana: I have since I was very little. 69 00:03:29.242 --> 00:03:32.879 One of the first games I ever played was Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. 70 00:03:33.346 --> 00:03:34.347 Tatjana: It's what got me addicted, 71 00:03:34.380 --> 00:03:37.183 Tatjana: I know Ubisoft is not where it is today; Sammy: Hahahahahaha. 72 00:03:37.217 --> 00:03:40.353 Tatjana: but is the game that, like, changed my whole world. 73 00:03:40.486 --> 00:03:44.290 I love anything that has, like, a really in-depth story. 74 00:03:44.357 --> 00:03:48.962 I loved Baldur's Gate, I played that countless times for all the different endings. 75 00:03:48.962 --> 00:03:52.265 Loved playing Skyrim, it was one of my favorites. 76 00:03:52.298 --> 00:03:55.068 Oh God, I used to do all the different kind of runs. 77 00:03:55.134 --> 00:04:00.640 Yeah, anything with like, a crazy story or this like in-depth storyline 78 00:04:00.673 --> 00:04:03.109 is one of my- Is some of my favorite games. 79 00:04:03.509 --> 00:04:06.179 Tatjana: Terraria is also a good one that I absolutely loved. 80 00:04:06.179 --> 00:04:08.448 Tatjana: Lies of P, I think, is on sale. 81 00:04:08.481 --> 00:04:10.416 Tatjana: And I might want to do that; I know it's a Souls-based game, 82 00:04:10.416 --> 00:04:11.684 but I'm like, I want to give it a try. 83 00:04:11.684 --> 00:04:13.686 Sammy: Who's the best companion then, in Baldur's Gate 3? 84 00:04:14.887 --> 00:04:17.123 Tatjana: Ooh, who's the best companion? Sammy: Hahahahaha. 85 00:04:17.190 --> 00:04:17.257 Tatjana: I mean, I love Minthara, which I know is like, ooh. Sammy: Hahahahahaha. 86 00:04:17.257 --> 00:04:20.126 Tatjana: I love Minthara, which I know is like, ooh. Sammy: Hahahahahaha. 87 00:04:20.193 --> 00:04:22.395 Tatjana: Or Shadowheart, I love Shadowheart too. Sammy: Yeah classic; yeah. 88 00:04:22.395 --> 00:04:24.030 Sammy: What made you interested in this role? 89 00:04:24.063 --> 00:04:28.868 Tatjana: I've always loved Materials, and when I saw the role pop up; 90 00:04:28.901 --> 00:04:33.673 it's very rare for me to find, because there's a lot of people who use- 91 00:04:33.706 --> 00:04:36.776 Especially the key search terms of anything materials, 92 00:04:36.776 --> 00:04:39.212 or product development within software-related things. 93 00:04:39.245 --> 00:04:39.712 Sammy: Ooooh. 94 00:04:39.746 --> 00:04:42.882 Tatjana: So it's something that when I graduated, 95 00:04:42.882 --> 00:04:45.485 Tatjana: I was like, oh god; like, how am I going to find work? Sammy: *Laughs* 96 00:04:45.485 --> 00:04:47.453 Tatjana: So I was just kind of like putting in everything, 97 00:04:47.453 --> 00:04:49.289 and then I saw it pop up, and I was like, great. 98 00:04:49.322 --> 00:04:52.125 It's things that are tailored to me that I can do! 99 00:04:52.158 --> 00:04:52.959 Sammy: Hahahaha. 100 00:04:52.992 --> 00:04:58.064 Tatjana: So I saw that, and I was like, yeah, I'll give it a shot; and, yeah. 101 00:04:58.097 --> 00:05:00.800 Sammy: What's your weirdest story working at LMG? 102 00:05:00.900 --> 00:05:03.102 Tatjana: I have quite a few, I have quite a few; 103 00:05:03.102 --> 00:05:08.908 probably the weirdest is that I readily see Linus's feet pics. 104 00:05:09.642 --> 00:05:11.077 Sammy: ...what? Tatjana: Because I work on socks. 105 00:05:11.077 --> 00:05:12.178 Sammy and Tatjana: *Laughs* 106 00:05:12.178 --> 00:05:15.348 Tatjana: So he'll send me of course, when we test socks; 107 00:05:15.381 --> 00:05:19.052 which I'm hoping that I can get a really good development sample. 108 00:05:19.118 --> 00:05:23.956 Tatjana: It's been a lot of work engineering the specific knit that he's looking for, 109 00:05:23.990 --> 00:05:24.424 Sammy: Mhmm. 110 00:05:24.457 --> 00:05:28.695 Tatjana: that it's extremely durable, that he can wear for badminton practices, 111 00:05:28.728 --> 00:05:33.232 that has really high merino wool content, so it's got really good thermal regulation. 112 00:05:33.499 --> 00:05:35.768 So it also has a very specific knit construction, 113 00:05:35.768 --> 00:05:39.706 where the loops on the bottom as well, as the Achilles heel and toe box, 114 00:05:39.739 --> 00:05:41.941 have to be a very specific thickness; 115 00:05:41.941 --> 00:05:45.611 A lot of times he'll just be like, these gave me blisters. 116 00:05:45.611 --> 00:05:49.949 Tatjana: And instead of just telling me they gave him blisters! He will send me photos! 117 00:05:49.949 --> 00:05:50.817 Sammy: Hahahahahaha! 118 00:05:50.817 --> 00:05:54.420 Sammy: Why? Like, you know what blisters look like, why do you get pictures of them? 119 00:05:54.454 --> 00:05:59.225 Tatjana: I don't know, I don't know; but thanks, thanks Linus! Sammy: Oh my goodness. 120 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:00.893 Sammy: That's a very Linus thing, I guess. 121 00:06:00.927 --> 00:06:01.828 Tatjana: It is, yeah. 122 00:06:01.894 --> 00:06:07.467 Tatjana: Yeah, I've gotten videos of, like security footage of him playing badminton. 123 00:06:07.467 --> 00:06:11.637 I've gotten photos of, I remember one of the prototype socks he got, 124 00:06:11.671 --> 00:06:16.275 like a piece of electrical tape, and he's like see, it started to pill a little bit; 125 00:06:16.309 --> 00:06:17.543 and I'm like okay, great. 126 00:06:17.810 --> 00:06:19.912 Tatjana: Just bring the socks in and I'll evaluate them. 127 00:06:19.946 --> 00:06:20.546 Sammy: Hahaha. 128 00:06:20.780 --> 00:06:24.250 Sammy: So if anyone wants Linus-worn socks, they should go to you? 129 00:06:24.484 --> 00:06:27.286 Tatjana: Yeah, I guess god, Or feet pics. Sammy: Hahahahahaha! 130 00:06:27.286 --> 00:06:30.523 Tatjana: No! Don't come to me for feet pics. 131 00:06:30.556 --> 00:06:31.624 Sammy: No; no, no, no, no, no. 132 00:06:31.891 --> 00:06:34.994 what do you think is the hardest part of your job then? 133 00:06:35.194 --> 00:06:38.698 Tatjana: I wouldn't say hardest, but challenging is we do have three designers; 134 00:06:38.698 --> 00:06:44.303 so Bridget, Matthew, and Lisa? Whenever it comes to new product developments, 135 00:06:44.303 --> 00:06:48.107 it's scheduling time with all three of them in order to make sure that 136 00:06:48.141 --> 00:06:53.112 we're, I'm taking into account all the things that they want from each garment. 137 00:06:53.146 --> 00:06:56.249 So kind of going through and seeing the main fabrics, 138 00:06:56.282 --> 00:07:00.353 all of the performance aspects that they're looking for, as well as all the trims. 139 00:07:00.386 --> 00:07:04.223 So kind of in my mind, trying to pick what's the best mill, 140 00:07:04.257 --> 00:07:06.492 or if it's something that needs to be factory sourced, 141 00:07:06.492 --> 00:07:10.463 and kind of going through all those motions; so it's tons of development testing, 142 00:07:10.496 --> 00:07:15.168 tons of working with marketing in order to make sure that what we're listing on the site 143 00:07:15.201 --> 00:07:18.337 is performance requirements that has been tested. 144 00:07:18.371 --> 00:07:22.542 So it's a lot of in-between and working within each designer; 145 00:07:22.575 --> 00:07:24.877 because they- I mean, right now they probably have around, 146 00:07:24.911 --> 00:07:28.581 like maybe five new styles each? So it's really like sitting down 147 00:07:28.614 --> 00:07:32.418 and making sure that we're tackling it the best way possible? 148 00:07:32.452 --> 00:07:37.457 But also that meets the timelines required, because fashion works in a seasonal basis; 149 00:07:37.490 --> 00:07:41.794 so I only have, you know, a couple months until you know, 150 00:07:42.462 --> 00:07:48.367 offshore companies will go on Chinese New Year, and they're pretty much gone for a month. 151 00:07:48.367 --> 00:07:52.205 So it's like planning everything beforehand and really keeping tabs 152 00:07:52.205 --> 00:07:54.474 and loops on everything to make sure that it's smooth. 153 00:07:54.507 --> 00:07:57.577 Sammy: I would assume like trying to like get everyone's opinion, 154 00:07:57.610 --> 00:08:01.347 while also make sure like it's on the, the scope isn't too big or anything like that. 155 00:08:01.380 --> 00:08:02.582 Sammy: It's just a lot of challenging. 156 00:08:02.582 --> 00:08:05.918 Tatjana: Yes, it's very challenging when there's a lot of like, 157 00:08:05.918 --> 00:08:09.155 for example, I love pushing for new technologies. 158 00:08:09.255 --> 00:08:14.093 Tatjana: However, not all of them, even on a very high-end scale, 159 00:08:14.126 --> 00:08:19.899 are they as durable as maybe one would want; and also what costs that makes sense. 160 00:08:19.932 --> 00:08:24.670 So there's always the three where it's like, oh, I want this amazing new technology; 161 00:08:24.704 --> 00:08:28.841 maybe it's something that, has a lot of like military applications potentially, 162 00:08:28.875 --> 00:08:32.111 which raises the cost, which is what the business team doesn't really want. 163 00:08:32.578 --> 00:08:36.549 Tatjana: So then it's always trying to navigate being like, okay let's look at order quantities; 164 00:08:36.582 --> 00:08:41.187 let's look at maybe negotiating with mills and seeing what's the best price that we can get. 165 00:08:41.220 --> 00:08:43.122 And then also those properties being like, 166 00:08:43.122 --> 00:08:47.860 okay well, is there anything that we can compromise in order to bring down that kind of price? 167 00:08:47.860 --> 00:08:50.162 So it's always trying to meet in the middle, 168 00:08:50.196 --> 00:08:54.200 and get the best out of all the aspects that we're looking for. 169 00:08:54.267 --> 00:08:56.269 Sammy: How did you get into your, quote on quote skill, I guess? 170 00:08:57.236 --> 00:09:02.275 Tatjana: Yeah, I've had a lot of different avenues and schooling, 171 00:09:02.308 --> 00:09:06.879 and it's always something that, I mean a lot of people are like, what even is that? 172 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:07.713 It's funny. 173 00:09:07.713 --> 00:09:13.553 I didn't really know until first year university, when I was studying business 174 00:09:13.586 --> 00:09:14.787 and I was like, I hate this. 175 00:09:14.887 --> 00:09:15.588 Sammy: Oh, really? 176 00:09:15.588 --> 00:09:16.622 Tatjana: I can't do this anymore. 177 00:09:16.622 --> 00:09:18.824 I did a whole bunch of soul searching, 178 00:09:18.858 --> 00:09:26.165 and I saw at my university that they had a clothing and textiles major; 179 00:09:26.165 --> 00:09:29.602 and I was like, ooh, what is this? And I went through and I was like, you know what? 180 00:09:29.702 --> 00:09:33.272 I really had to convince my parents, because they were the ones helping me pay at the time. 181 00:09:33.306 --> 00:09:37.443 And they're like, what do you mean clothing? Are you sure that's a viable option? 182 00:09:37.476 --> 00:09:38.611 We wanted you to be a lawyer. 183 00:09:38.611 --> 00:09:39.612 Sammy: Hahahahaha. 184 00:09:39.645 --> 00:09:43.316 Tatjana: And I was like, umm okay, give me a year in order to figure it out. 185 00:09:43.382 --> 00:09:48.588 I took one class, which was 170 textile science; 186 00:09:48.621 --> 00:09:51.624 and it absolutely changed my world, the fact that 187 00:09:51.657 --> 00:09:55.394 when you're looking at materials, that they all have specific properties 188 00:09:55.428 --> 00:10:02.368 and you can tailor them in order to meet the requirements that you're looking for? Blew my mind. 189 00:10:02.368 --> 00:10:05.237 And the different inherent properties of for example, 190 00:10:05.237 --> 00:10:11.010 polyesters and cottons and plastics, and composites and a lot of different other materials. 191 00:10:11.043 --> 00:10:13.579 I was like, I adore this; I love this. 192 00:10:13.613 --> 00:10:18.284 I begged and pleaded to my parents; I was like, please let me finish this, 193 00:10:18.284 --> 00:10:21.687 I really want to do fiber science, I really want to do textile science. 194 00:10:21.687 --> 00:10:25.291 They were like, okay; as long as you can get work after, we're fine. Sammy: *Laughs* 195 00:10:25.291 --> 00:10:31.297 Tatjana: I ended up doing that, I absolutely loved it; and then as I graduated, COVID happened. 196 00:10:31.397 --> 00:10:33.633 Sammy: Oh, fun. Tatjana: So I was like, how the hell do I get a job? 197 00:10:33.666 --> 00:10:37.837 I ended up getting a job at a large fashion company in Vancouver. 198 00:10:38.204 --> 00:10:42.074 I did that for a year, I kind of hated my life but I did it. Sammy: Hahahaha. 199 00:10:42.074 --> 00:10:46.545 Tatjana: And then afterwards, I ended up going back to school for materials engineering technology; 200 00:10:46.579 --> 00:10:46.712 because I was like, fashion's great, but I want to focus on the properties; 201 00:10:46.712 --> 00:10:49.448 I did that for two years, absolutely loved it. 202 00:10:49.482 --> 00:10:56.489 Got the chance to work on metals, ceramics, plastics, and heat treating of different metals. 203 00:10:56.489 --> 00:11:01.427 I was able to do courses in welding and machining, I worked on a lathe for quite a bit. 204 00:11:01.427 --> 00:11:06.265 And I also looked at different techniques in order to inspect welds; 205 00:11:06.298 --> 00:11:11.937 so I looked at mag and dye, which is [a] magnetic and dye-peneture inspection. 206 00:11:12.004 --> 00:11:19.111 I looked at radiography for different welds, and looking for different defects, 207 00:11:19.111 --> 00:11:23.683 either on the surface or below; and then I also looked at ultrasonics as well. 208 00:11:23.683 --> 00:11:28.320 So it was really great, and I was able to gain such a wide breadth in my skills; 209 00:11:28.354 --> 00:11:32.191 so that's why not only do I work on a fashion team, 210 00:11:32.224 --> 00:11:37.697 but I also will sometimes help out with engineering as well, just in regards to failure analysis, 211 00:11:37.697 --> 00:11:38.898 but I also will sometimes help out with engineering as well, just in regards to failure analysis, 212 00:11:38.898 --> 00:11:41.567 or looking at rubbers or looking at plastics and whatnot. 213 00:11:41.567 --> 00:11:44.937 There's some different attributes that I'm able to help to bring in 214 00:11:44.970 --> 00:11:49.108 in order to use the correct materials for their intended purposes. 215 00:11:49.141 --> 00:11:52.378 Sammy: What are the coolest projects you worked at LMG? 216 00:11:52.411 --> 00:11:57.149 Tatjana: One of them is the Hydrochromic Swimshort that should be releasing in 217 00:11:57.149 --> 00:12:00.186 spring - summer 25? or 26-ish? We'll see. 218 00:12:00.186 --> 00:12:00.619 Sammy: Wow. 219 00:12:02.388 --> 00:12:05.424 Tatjana: Yeah, working on placing those purchase orders in, 220 00:12:05.458 --> 00:12:09.829 in order to make sure that we have the fabric, and to get started in garment production very, very soon. 221 00:12:09.895 --> 00:12:15.735 Tatjana: What's great about Hydrochromic is that once you dip into the water, 222 00:12:15.768 --> 00:12:18.771 or get sprayed or anything like that, it actually reveals the print. 223 00:12:18.771 --> 00:12:21.073 So it's great for parties and whatnot; 224 00:12:21.107 --> 00:12:25.211 and it'll be really cool, because our intent is to make it almost like a loot box. 225 00:12:25.244 --> 00:12:28.781 So you don't know what print you're going to get until you get it wet. 226 00:12:28.881 --> 00:12:32.451 You might get like a circuit board print, you might get a Breadasaurus print; 227 00:12:32.485 --> 00:12:36.489 and it'll be really fun for you know, pool parties and whatnot that you know, 228 00:12:36.489 --> 00:12:40.159 it looks like your average short; and then as soon as you dip into water, the print gets revealed. 229 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.062 Tatjana: And yeah, the other one is the Thermochromic jacket. 230 00:12:43.062 --> 00:12:48.134 So Thermo, it changes color due to heat, and that'll be really cool; 231 00:12:48.134 --> 00:12:54.974 because we tweaked the base fabric in order to be one color, and the coating goes from color to clear. 232 00:12:55.007 --> 00:13:01.180 So once you touch it, or even due to body heat, it'll constantly be fluctuating and changing color. 233 00:13:01.213 --> 00:13:03.249 We were really inspired by thermal imaging and PCB boards; 234 00:13:03.249 --> 00:13:05.484 We were really inspired by thermal imaging and PCB boards; 235 00:13:05.518 --> 00:13:08.687 so we wanted to reflect the color change to that, 236 00:13:08.687 --> 00:13:12.458 and it's something that you can see even without a camera, so it'll be really cool. 237 00:13:12.591 --> 00:13:14.560 Sammy: What were your jobs prior to LMG? 238 00:13:14.593 --> 00:13:17.696 Tatjana: I've previously worked at Aritzia. 239 00:13:17.730 --> 00:13:25.171 So I was the fabric coordinator that was underneath the fabric manager for the Super Puffs, 240 00:13:25.171 --> 00:13:29.742 so I had worked on both their current line, as well as developing other main fabrics. 241 00:13:29.742 --> 00:13:31.010 so I had worked on both their current line, as well as developing other main fabrics. 242 00:13:31.010 --> 00:13:36.182 So that I worked there for about a year from 2020 to 2021-ish. 243 00:13:36.182 --> 00:13:41.687 While I was doing my postgrad diploma at NAIT, 244 00:13:41.687 --> 00:13:45.324 which is the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology, 245 00:13:45.357 --> 00:13:48.394 I was also a student laboratory supervisor. 246 00:13:48.427 --> 00:13:54.133 So I helped manage all of the equipment, always working late because 247 00:13:54.533 --> 00:13:59.004 a lot of our Labs, even though they were incredibly long, you needed so much longer hours; 248 00:13:59.038 --> 00:14:02.308 because of the amount of papers that we had to do every single week. 249 00:14:02.341 --> 00:14:04.476 They were 10 to 12 page papers; 250 00:14:04.510 --> 00:14:07.279 each one of them you know, you have to heat treat, 251 00:14:07.313 --> 00:14:11.684 one of them actually, I remember vividly, intergranular corrosion. 252 00:14:11.717 --> 00:14:18.224 We had actually tested to ASTM A262, where you have to 253 00:14:18.224 --> 00:14:20.559 heat treat stainless steel to a certain temperature, 254 00:14:20.659 --> 00:14:24.063 in order to get the type of cracking and ditches; 255 00:14:24.096 --> 00:14:30.836 to see the failure rate of when you expose austenitic stainless steel to certain temperatures. 256 00:14:30.836 --> 00:14:35.541 And then doing that oxalic etch test in order to see what grain structure, 257 00:14:35.574 --> 00:14:37.776 and what kind of failure had occurred. 258 00:14:37.810 --> 00:14:39.645 And you had to do your write-up on it; 259 00:14:39.678 --> 00:14:42.815 and it was like, you know, you were never limited to- 260 00:14:42.848 --> 00:14:47.553 It was usually two to three papers and you know, printing them off, 261 00:14:47.586 --> 00:14:51.857 you had to have the most beautiful pristine micrographs and all of that good stuff, 262 00:14:51.891 --> 00:14:56.095 and always helping out other students, and usually putting on rave music 263 00:14:56.095 --> 00:14:58.864 at very high volumes in order to keep everyone awake. 264 00:14:59.031 --> 00:15:01.367 Tatjana: So yeah, that was something. 265 00:15:01.400 --> 00:15:07.907 And then in between that, I also had an internship with Garage and Groupe Dynamite in Montreal, 266 00:15:07.940 --> 00:15:12.745 where I had worked on knit top design with the rest of my team. 267 00:15:12.745 --> 00:15:18.884 So I did that for a bit; Oh God, do not get me to draw and sketch any corset tops anymore. 268 00:15:18.918 --> 00:15:21.387 Tatjana: I cannot look at another corset top. 269 00:15:21.487 --> 00:15:25.491 Tatjana: And then, yeah, and then after that, I am at LMG ever since. 270 00:15:25.891 --> 00:15:28.160 Sammy: Yeah, I think for people who don't know, 271 00:15:28.227 --> 00:15:30.796 like Super Puff is like one of their more like; 272 00:15:30.829 --> 00:15:35.234 the iconic stuff, right? Like they sell, It's like what they're really known for. 273 00:15:35.267 --> 00:15:36.035 Tatjana: Mhmmm. 274 00:15:36.068 --> 00:15:39.138 Sammy: So when I learned that like a while back, I was really surprised. 275 00:15:39.571 --> 00:15:40.005 Tatjana: Yeah. 276 00:15:40.005 --> 00:15:41.907 Sammy: Because that's a big project, yeah. 277 00:15:41.907 --> 00:15:47.479 Tatjana: Yeah, and it was funny because yeah in 2020, I was dumbfounded 278 00:15:47.479 --> 00:15:50.015 that everything was pretty much in a standstill. 279 00:15:50.049 --> 00:15:53.852 I was like, where do I go? How do I go from here? 280 00:15:53.886 --> 00:15:59.725 You know, I didn't have anyone else in material science or fiber science in order to lean on. 281 00:15:59.725 --> 00:15:59.792 Sammy: Mmmm. 282 00:15:59.792 --> 00:16:03.262 Tatjana: I had an internship scheduled with Mustang Survival, 283 00:16:03.295 --> 00:16:04.797 that ended up getting cancelled. 284 00:16:04.830 --> 00:16:09.268 Tatjana: And I was like, oh my God I have no job prospects; what do I do? 285 00:16:09.768 --> 00:16:13.005 Tatjana: So yeah, I applied to Arezia. 286 00:16:13.038 --> 00:16:18.043 It wasn't even a fabric coordinator role, it was literally for a management role that I was like, 287 00:16:18.043 --> 00:16:21.647 Tatjana: I am just throwing a bone, and they're like, you're not fit for this role, 288 00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:23.949 Tatjana: but would you be fit for a fabric coordinator role? 289 00:16:23.949 --> 00:16:25.417 I was like, yes, yes I am. 290 00:16:25.551 --> 00:16:25.784 Sammy: Hahahahahaha. 291 00:16:25.784 --> 00:16:30.155 Sammy: Then we came to our tailored question, so this is a question just for you. 292 00:16:30.189 --> 00:16:30.756 Tatjana: Oooh. 293 00:16:30.789 --> 00:16:32.224 Sammy: What are your top three animes? Because I know you're a big anime person. 294 00:16:32.224 --> 00:16:32.257 Sammy: What are your top three animes? Because I know you're a big anime person. 295 00:16:32.257 --> 00:16:35.594 Tatjana: Ooooh! My top three animes. 296 00:16:35.761 --> 00:16:35.828 Sammy: Yeah. 297 00:16:35.828 --> 00:16:39.431 Tatjana: I've been watching Dandadan, and I absolutely love it. Sammy: Good one, yeah. 298 00:16:39.465 --> 00:16:42.901 Tatjana: I thought that this is what Chainsaw Man should have been. 299 00:16:42.901 --> 00:16:45.237 Tatjana: Just with the art style and the manga, 300 00:16:45.237 --> 00:16:47.940 Tatjana: ReZero is one of my top three for sure. 301 00:16:47.940 --> 00:16:48.807 Sammy: Sailor Moon? 302 00:16:48.807 --> 00:16:54.079 Tatjana: I do love Sailor Moon, but what I love more is, and this sounds terrible, 303 00:16:54.113 --> 00:16:57.883 I loved Maid Sama! It's one of my absolute favorites. Sammy: Hahahahaha. 304 00:16:57.883 --> 00:17:02.721 Tatjana: And Oran High School Host Club is also another one of my absolute favorites, 305 00:17:02.788 --> 00:17:05.824 when I saw it at 12 years old; because I was, 306 00:17:05.824 --> 00:17:11.096 [Cause’ that’s when] I didn't have a Crunchyroll subscription at the time, and I found it on YouTube; 307 00:17:11.663 --> 00:17:14.500 Tatjana: and I was like, oh my God, this is my dream come true. 308 00:17:18.270 --> 00:17:19.738 Sammy: Okay, and we'll end there. 309 00:17:20.239 --> 00:17:23.208 Sammy: Going back to the first question of the two truths and a lie, 310 00:17:23.308 --> 00:17:25.744 do you want to reiterate what they were, and then tell us which one was a lie? 311 00:17:25.778 --> 00:17:26.245 Tatjana: Yeah. 312 00:17:26.311 --> 00:17:31.083 Tatjana: First one was that I played alto saxophone for seven years. 313 00:17:31.283 --> 00:17:35.721 The next one was that I've been featured in some fashion magazines; 314 00:17:35.754 --> 00:17:38.390 and the third one is that I can speak five languages. 315 00:17:39.058 --> 00:17:41.860 Tatjana: I have played alto saxophone for seven years. 316 00:17:41.894 --> 00:17:44.930 I was a massive band geek in high school, 317 00:17:45.030 --> 00:17:49.001 and I was going to play in the university orchestra, but I did not have the time. 318 00:17:49.068 --> 00:17:50.569 Tatjana: But I'd love to go back to that. 319 00:17:51.036 --> 00:17:52.704 I have been featured in some fashion magazines. 320 00:17:52.704 --> 00:17:53.172 Sammy: Wha- 321 00:17:53.205 --> 00:17:55.507 Tatjana: I have been a model for a very long time, 322 00:17:55.574 --> 00:17:57.576 and I kind of do it on the side now, 323 00:17:57.609 --> 00:18:02.147 and I love getting the opportunity to work with photographers, and creative directors 324 00:18:02.181 --> 00:18:05.584 in order to kind of build on their ideas. 325 00:18:05.818 --> 00:18:10.389 And it's something that, I've heard from a lot of people that I'm pretty good at; 326 00:18:10.422 --> 00:18:14.093 so it's always something that's fun for me to partake in. 327 00:18:14.126 --> 00:18:19.164 And I do not speak five languages, I speak a little bit of Serbian because I am Serbian; 328 00:18:19.598 --> 00:18:22.468 and a tiny bit of French, but I don't really classify that; 329 00:18:22.501 --> 00:18:27.873 because I only lived in Montreal for four months, and I only learned French through school. 330 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:30.576 Tatjana: Yeah, don't even try speaking French in Montreal. 331 00:18:30.576 --> 00:18:34.246 Tatjana: They're so- A lot of them were so mean, 332 00:18:34.246 --> 00:18:37.216 especially anyone who was like, because a lot of them migrate from Paris. 333 00:18:37.282 --> 00:18:40.285 Tatjana: So the Parisians that come over, they're so mean; 334 00:18:40.352 --> 00:18:44.189 like I'd be like, bonjour, comment ça va? Je voudrais un... 335 00:18:44.189 --> 00:18:46.959 Tatjana: And they'd be like, no... like, they'd be like, no just speak English. 336 00:18:46.959 --> 00:18:47.759 Tatjana: I don't want to hear it. 337 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.462 Sammy: Hahahahaha! Tatjana: And I'm like, okay I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 338 00:18:50.496 --> 00:18:51.363 Tatjana: Thanks, guys. 339 00:18:51.396 --> 00:18:55.601 Make sure to like and comment down below, if it's something that you enjoyed. 340 00:18:55.634 --> 00:18:57.669 And thanks for subscribing to Floatplane. 341 00:25:51.950 --> 00:25:56.688 because I was like, fashion's great, but I want to focus on the properties; 342 00:25:56.721 --> 00:25:59.124 and not "because this is pretty and trendy". 343 00:25:59.157 --> 00:26:03.595 It's like, okay, but there's so much more that you can look at versus just 344 00:26:03.628 --> 00:26:05.931 the appearance and what's in front of you. 345 00:26:05.964 --> 00:26:05.997 I did that for two years, absolutely loved it.