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welcome to the WAN Show guys the weekly show where we talk about all kinds of

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things to do with my little pony the latest furry trends and of course

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whatever's on sale at hot topic so first up we've got as far as hot topics are

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concerned AMD oh this is a tech show

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yeah AMD mantle the battlefield 4 patch

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is here but don't worry too much about it because there's no driver yet nope

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however it should be noted there's an email in my inbox i will not confirm

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that i have read the email but what i will say is that it's from

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the same pr firm that amc you've read at least the

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from i know who it's from have you read the subject line no i haven't read the

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subject but i will say that that email was probably promising so i don't think

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we'll be waiting that much longer our next our next headline this is kind of

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awesome backblaze is creating sensationalist viral publicity for

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themselves again there was actually an excellent

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excellent article done up by tweektown about how flawed their testing

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methodology was when they basically came out and said like seagate hard drives

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are garbage so we'll be going through that a huge props to tweak town for that

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article south korea has just been like nope no

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bloatware on mobile phones completely banned which is super nice there's a few

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things like wi-fi connectivity is allowed to be hidden but it's like

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come on what are you trying to do it's like bloatware is not is now removable

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which is nice source 2 engine leak and possibly a game leak that ends in three

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although we'll get into that more later yes we

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will

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into our first topic AMD mantle oh you

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didn't want to do that one first no i said boom yeah boom AMD mantle so

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there's been a whole bunch of news over the last little while it's finally

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coming the battlefield 4 driver is

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finally actually dropped like or did i say driver i'm sorry patch the

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battlefield 4 patch has freudian slip is finally here you can actually install it

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although there won't be any point doing that unless you're running an AMD graphics card that's based on the gcn

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architecture not that there would be a point for you if you did have one of those graphics

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cards anyway you could pre-load it you could pre-load

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it and be ready to rock um but we're we're finally getting a ton more data

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and here it is so while you can't install

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the driver yet we have reason to believe that you'll be able to get access to it very very soon and this was the thought

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was the thing that i thought was most interesting out of out of all the

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information that's out there right now so AMD has released a little bit of

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information about sort of what kind of performance improvements folks can

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expect to see using mantle and i think many people were expecting their

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graphics card to sprout wings and fly

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so they were expecting to take like an r9 290x and

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i thought you know have that go have that all of a

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sudden be you know deep into the double digits percentages faster when that's

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not necessarily the case

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what mantle will do is it will alleviate

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CPU bottlenecking so if you were in a

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situation where i think one of the examples they give here yeah is a multi

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or is a 64 player multiplayer game so

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there's a 7970 and an fx 8350 where

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previously directx might not have allowed the CPU to fully leverage all

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those cores remember that's an 8-core CPU and you might have been CPU limited

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even that 7970 which is a reasonably powerful graphics card well now with

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mantle they're saying you can expect maybe even a 25 performance improvement

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um by allowing your CPU to become unfettered now

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i've seen i've seen reports of particularly with very high end graphics

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cards the improvements being on the lower side i've seen reports of with

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high-end graphics card the improvements being you know very exceptional but i

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think it's really going to depend on what type of level you're playing what

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type of scenario you're doing um and it's also going to depend on what the

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actual finished product looks like because i haven't seen anything super

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official yet this is mostly like leap stuff here and there a big part is gonna

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be like you said levels uh area what's going on are you playing single player

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are you playing a 64 player configuration all that kind of stuff and

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the exact configuration of your machine do you have something that's underpowered in some area you have

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something that's massively overpowered in another area so it's going to come

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down to like the the perfect storm of all the different things happening to

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exactly how much performance you're going to gain out of it you know what's funny i had it echoing i

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had my twitch stream going every week

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not every week every week and and and barefoot's better

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what do people know

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whatever barefoot's better man anyway so what we'd like i guess you know what i'd

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love to do a twitter blitz for this what do you guys want to see us compare

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because we're in one of those privileged positions where we have access to all

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the hardware and i'm going to give you guys three options so option number one

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is high-end cpus high-end graphics cards

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take another run at battlefield 4 except

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with AMD we run mantel with NVIDIA we run directx and see how things fall

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or would you rather rather than comparing high-end graphics cards with

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high-end cpus would you rather we have a look at the impact of mantle on low-end

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cpus and we instead take one high-end

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graphics card let's say a radio on r9 290 or something like that and we take a

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range of different cpus or would you rather actually that was

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pretty much all i had what would you rather we do because we're not going to be able to do

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everything i think AMD's promised me i'll have 24 hours before a public

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uh driver is released you know to to run numbers so let's say would you guys want

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us to focus on GPU performance with a single high-end CPU or CPU performance

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with a single high-end GPU are we taking a tweak from this are we straw pulling

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it uh we're tweeting okay yeah so i was just making sure yeah go ahead and just

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uh just tweet us with what you would prefer to see

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this is exciting oh actually there was one other bit of mantle news so i mean

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we knew this was coming it's not really mantle but it's the latest uh the latest

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driver from AMD that includes opencl 2.0 support hsa support for kaveri apus i

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also have some pretty badass spreadsheet support yeah so libreoffice uh this was

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posted on the forum by

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the sls amg

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the notification libreoffice is now supporting mantle what so mantle as well

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as opencl and hsa are going to be a huge

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emphasis for them when you're doing things and actually AMD had some

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interesting use cases for this so one example was um

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uh buying and selling stocks within very tight time frames so when

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you have a live feed of data that you need your spreadsheet to calculate and

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spit out new quotes as quickly as possible they were showing um

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hsa on a kaveri apu versus an Intel

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quad-core processor and how much faster it could update so how much more

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granular the data you could get was and it was actually very impressive and so

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while most people will give exactly this many

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cares about libreoffice's ability to calculate spreadsheets slightly faster

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there are people out there for whom this will be extremely important so

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we can't just gloss over it it's just all of all of twitch shadows just like

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what what it matters it might not matter to

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you what but it matters how does this make my

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game run faster all right let's move on to our next topic uh

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valve's in-home streaming i don't know if you guys saw the video we did on it

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already or not um i thought it was one of the best videos we've ever done i

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worked extremely hard on it actually like my legs are tired because

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the thing about in-home streaming is you have to have mirrored configurations of whatever it

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is you're doing in both places so in this house that ended up being on two

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separate floors for the sake of what i thought was going to be improved

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convenience and not having to haul things not at all

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in one place and then run new network cables and stuff it ended up being a lot of running back and forth up and down

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the stairs but it was a lot of it was a lot of fun to do and i want you guys to

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check it out and you guys aren't the only ones

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that are going to be checking it out this was extremely exciting this is the

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first time i have ever gotten any attention from valve in any way

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whatsoever but on steamcommunity.com in

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the home streaming group which you guys have to join if you want to have the

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home streaming beta enabled for you i was actually featured

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on their announcements tab there's also a uh

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forum discussion thing going on about it too yeah with 131 comments there yeah so

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i thought that was pretty much the coolest thing ever it felt like getting

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a gold star of approval from gay ben himself it wasn't i know but it felt

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like it at least they know who we are at least someone there someone at valve is

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that we exist is aware of our existence and anyway it's a great

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video i hope you guys enjoy it it was uh i realized there was one thing that i

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actually kind of left out from the video and that was how good is the gaming

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experience other than when it's like fundamentally

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broken like on ifinity and 4k i actually didn't talk about it

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so that was a bit of a glaring omission it's actually very good there is

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noticeably more what feels like jitter um and there is it seems like sometimes

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tearing is a little bit more noticeable but beyond that i mean latency wise when

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you're running on a wired connection how'd it feel for you it was absolutely really good um the only time with

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what configurations people expect to work that it was kind of weird was when

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we had that really low powered system did you have that in the video um i did

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and so do you mean the one where we were only getting 720p 30 FPS on the sapphire

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machine right yeah so it's not as simple as does the machine have enough

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horsepower to decode an h.264 stream

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that's what i think a lot of people thought and it's not quite like that it

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has to be able to do that while managing that network traffic while sending

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commands the other way and then it seems to just do some extra

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so a dual core e450 apu that's a very low power older apu was not enough for

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1080p streaming but something like an ultrabook even a dual core core i5 or

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core i7 ultrabook was able to handle 1080p just fine the only issue is that

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most of them don't have Ethernet on board so

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i actually just picked up a couple more of these usb to Ethernet adapters i'm going to be

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doing a um a great tech under 100 episode again i'm

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going to include this as well as a couple other really cool things that i've been using lately

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well the problem is that i had never owned one before and so i'd always kind

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of made do without it and then i bought one and all of a sudden

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i need it all the time i use it during WAN Show i used a netbook to make a pf

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sense router for my house so now all of a sudden it's tied up there and i'm like

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oh crap okay yeah more required one for the bag

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one for the wan showroom and i'll probably be buying more of them oh and this one this one right here this uh

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plugable usb 2 Ethernet adapter is gigabit so 450 megabits per second max

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obviously because it's usb 2 but it's also rumored to be compatible with

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shield so stay tuned guys you could be getting a limelight

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versus shield versus valve in home

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streaming wired versus wireless

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latency roundup over the next little bit

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that's going to be really fun that's actually really cool it's going to be a nightmare to do all the benchmarking

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it's going to be terrible it's going to be just

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the worst thing ever but i'm really looking forward to you

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yeah i hate my life

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actually i love my life it's just sometimes i hate things about it

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so we should yeah let's do our twitter blitz okay so nathan wants different cpus with the

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kaveri apu for the best CPU i think you're a little confused nathan an apu

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has a CPU on it i would say if possible run all the cpus

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but at eight gig or 16 gig configurations that's not going to make

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much of a difference ludwig mantle is not in any way rumored to um

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optimize the use of more memory more system memory

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um okay that's one option though running a lot

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of cpus with maybe a couple different graphics cards so like one high end one

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like you know 100 150 dollar card like a

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entry level gaming what i say we do which this might be

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aside from this but i'm assuming that i'm doing all the benchmarking

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actually help with this because it's only one run and we have two accounts with bf4 one

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bench we could have multiple benches

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we have um so we could we could do two different you could do one i could do

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the other one essentially because you could do cpus with one gps and i can do

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the CPU with multiple gpus we could potentially

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do this yeah yeah maybe we'll set aside some time monday sure um so leonard

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wants mid-range AMD versus high-end NVIDIA just to see what happens there

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that would be interesting that actually asks for GPU test first uh dexter wants

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to see the high-end stuff let's see the heavyweight showdown i mean you know

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what that's i think what most people are going to be interested in too

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ashley wants the apu tests uh one over option two

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okay toxin sandals is better than barefoot thank you marius

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the lone pc gamer do both options while rendering a video i think most people

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don't game while they're rendering videos in the background maybe i'm

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generalizing but i think in general it's correct i've

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done that yeah i've done it too back when i used to have to edit but i think most people

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usually don't running vms while trying to edit things was always really

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interesting

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anyways all right so take mid-range cpus and the same cards we're seeing actually a fair

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bit of each CPU modder asks for both

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CPU range comparing directx versus mantle sounds like apples and pairs well

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it's apple okay this this okay i'm about

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to go on a rant here levi i'm sorry but you've you've um you've started this

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you take the responsibility this is the problem with fanboyism

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there is no such thing as an unfair

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comparison i'm gonna let that sink in yes there is

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okay there's such thing as a flock

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we're going to be covering back please

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oh okay no no no there's a flawed experiment

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but a correctly a correctly conducted experiment can't be unfair well that

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means you're removing the unfair no okay oh okay okay cause there is

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unflavored experiments hold on a second because okay okay okay

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unfair i mean like emotionally unfair

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like it's not it's not fair to benchmark

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AMD versus NVIDIA and tomb raider because the 780 ti is bugged in tomb

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raider that's not unfair that's just

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it doesn't perform well sorry that's not unfair

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it's a perfectly good experiment it's just that one of the things failed and

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didn't do well that's all and an experiment is designed to reveal these

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things so if you were to say it's unfair

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to compare NVIDIA running in directx mode in a particular game that supports

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mental versus AMD running mantle that's not unfair that's a feature that they

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don't have that's it that's all there is to it if

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this one performs better but at reduced image quality well now we've introduced

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other variables and we have to talk about that but all other things being

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the same if this one runs like this and it has this extra thing and this one

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doesn't that's that that's it that's all there is to it i think i think there can

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be unfairs and i think you just said one you could have different image qualities

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there could be something it's still an experiment i really okay from talking to

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uh johann anderson uh back at NVIDIA's event and this was at NVIDIA's event

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he did not expect there to be any image quality difference between mental health

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direct this is i'm not i'm not saying there is i'm saying not not i meant like

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if you go in and go from very high to medium

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that's unbelievable yeah but that's not unfair that's just stupid yeah but it's

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still in fact that's just doing it wrong it's stupid and unfair okay but okay

00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:48.000
fine then if there's no such thing as utilizing a product to its full

00:17:44.840 --> 00:17:50.080
potential being unfair there you go so

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you're you're putting both of them in the best possible configuration they can

00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:57.280
be in and testing them against each other that's completely that's fine

00:17:55.919 --> 00:18:00.960
that's exactly what we're going to do and that's fine like back when AMD was

00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:05.039
having a lot of trouble with frame pacing taking an NVIDIA sli

00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:09.600
configuration versus name due crossfire configuration and saying this destroys

00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:13.520
this was fair yep i'm sorry your driver isn't good or not

00:18:11.919 --> 00:18:17.520
as good as your competitor that's not unfair it's just fact yeah and until

00:18:15.840 --> 00:18:23.200
it's fixed it's just fact and you have to deal with it so i don't want to hear

00:18:19.679 --> 00:18:24.000
about unfair that's all in in that yes

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yeah we're gonna we're gonna let things be as good as they possibly can as long as

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it's not hurting the experience we are not intervening in some way that is

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nerfing one of them in some way to make it worse than the other

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we are allowing them both to go as hard as they can

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for as long as they can

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all right so this is interesting i did not expect anyone to do this it was like

00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:56.640
fast you know he announced yeah the first version of it on the after party

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wait this is v1 yeah oh i changed your

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link oh you changed my link it didn't whatever your link was didn't work

00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:07.760
no i thought that was a no i'm pretty sure i had uh a newer link whatever your

00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:10.720
link was there was no download button it did not work

00:19:09.280 --> 00:19:14.799
is this newer uh you can if you delete oh no this has

00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:17.840
been this has been updated he says uh he says we won so yeah like i'm pretty sure

00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:22.000
this is the newest one if you delete that end part of the url

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so i challenged someone last week watching the stream i said look it's

00:19:23.919 --> 00:19:30.559
open there's a lot of audio anyone who wants to do it what

00:19:27.760 --> 00:19:35.440
oh my goodness okay are you sure you wanted to open

00:19:32.320 --> 00:19:36.400
that Linus yes i want to open it

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okay so we asked for someone to make the game

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oh hold on i should just check to make sure the levels are okay

00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:48.400
yeah you can't even hear it that's interesting it might be once you

00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.799
start the game okay well we'll make sure it's not too

00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:56.559
it's pretty loud okay we'll go ahead and turn that down a little bit there we go

00:19:54.720 --> 00:20:02.240
all right so i asked someone to make the game candy-ass candy eaters uh there is

00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:07.760
an avatar that you can use here so i'm gonna play on a medium so you get slick

00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:11.600
and you eat the candy and you avoid the uh what are these

00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:16.559
copyright symbols yeah i think spaces jump so the idea is to collect as much

00:20:13.840 --> 00:20:21.120
candy as you can while violating as few copyrights as you can

00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:25.200
um to avoid getting sued so i can show you guys oh oh no i'll show you guys

00:20:23.360 --> 00:20:29.679
what happens what happened tonight oh i got sued

00:20:27.360 --> 00:20:34.000
i go to jail so this was this was something where i

00:20:31.360 --> 00:20:36.159
actually i paid the 100 bounty last night

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uh where i was like okay someone has to make this game this is gonna be awesome so this was because of king games um

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trying to trademark the word candy and

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among other things and go after anyone who had a game that was sort of revolved

00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:53.440
around candy so they're the makers of candy crush saga and i think they were

00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:57.600
going after anyone using the word saga as well which is like really there's a

00:20:55.840 --> 00:21:02.799
there's a few words they were doing so people are making like candy candy saga

00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:04.720
rush and like candy saga whatever and all these different things it's kind of

00:21:03.840 --> 00:21:08.960
awesome so yeah um we should have we should

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definitely have a thread somewhere on the forum where people post their high scores and it's actually pretty

00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:18.240
entertaining yeah it's not a bad game i've seen worse it's like actually

00:21:16.320 --> 00:21:23.919
pretty alright the just for fun part is kind of insane oh this i hadn't seen yet

00:21:20.159 --> 00:21:23.919
i i never play games just for fun

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there's the storm of cameron

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but like it gets difficult sometimes you break it okay we didn't say the game was

00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:57.919
perfect just to be clear if you don't go too far

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out you land on this little ledge and then you can jump back in

00:21:59.840 --> 00:22:05.360
so like if you really need to dodge a thing and for some reason you can't go

00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:10.880
the other way you can like shuffle out the wall someone should make a game um

00:22:07.760 --> 00:22:10.880
where you dodge coins

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and your dog is awesome no bounty for that dodging

00:22:15.600 --> 00:22:22.720
coins i'm already poor enough all right if you win you should get

00:22:19.679 --> 00:22:24.400
candy and it should be candy quest saga

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coin dodger edition so there's more to

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oculus rift than just gaming this article is from eurogamer.net

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and is actually um talking about a use

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for it that would allow people to virtually swap bodies so

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you actually i think did most of the um there's not even really honestly that

00:22:44.080 --> 00:22:50.960
much else to say what happens is you you sit in similar proximity and then to be

00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:54.960
able to keep the immersion up you have to kind of move in sync with the other

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person so a lot of them you do not want to play this um i put like flags all over that post

00:22:59.679 --> 00:23:06.080
right there right there and right there so that you wouldn't play the video all

00:23:03.760 --> 00:23:06.080
right cool

00:23:06.840 --> 00:23:13.360
anyways don't watch the video um unless you are

00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:18.960
of appropriate age because there is uh nudity within the video okay um but

00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:23.360
essentially what what you do is you you have to move in sync so because like if

00:23:21.679 --> 00:23:27.039
you if you grab your leg or if you grab your ARM like this for immersion if

00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:30.559
you're looking down to be able to see yourself which is not

00:23:29.120 --> 00:23:35.039
yourself it's the other person grab their ARM they have to do at the same time so all the movements are very

00:23:33.520 --> 00:23:39.520
sweeping and very slow so you can do it at the same time um a few things that

00:23:37.840 --> 00:23:43.600
break it from stop it

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oh i see a few things that break it um as far as i can tell is like when

00:23:45.760 --> 00:23:50.960
they're going like this um and stuff like that like the guy is

00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:55.039
super hairy so as he's going like this and the girl

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:59.440
is like not hairy at all it's like well that wouldn't feel the same right at all

00:23:57.919 --> 00:24:03.600
there's a few things that would break it in my mind um

00:24:01.919 --> 00:24:09.440
but yeah it's interesting they have a few different reasons for doing it so

00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:13.760
where is it by doing this they can participate in a

00:24:11.360 --> 00:24:19.600
virtual body swap um they've entitled the machine be another

00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:22.799
machine to be another and its whole idea

00:24:19.600 --> 00:24:24.159
is to explore empathy and the nature of

00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:28.799
the self that sentence is hard to say

00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:31.919
the nature of the self it sounds weird so there you go

00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:35.120
if you could find a willing participant and set up a be someone else machine

00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:41.440
then it shouldn't theoretically be that hard no i don't think so because there's uh

00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.440
you should do it

00:24:43.679 --> 00:24:52.320
you've seen the video now i got a lot more awkward um there's there's cameras

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.840
mounted and stuff so it can feed out um

00:24:52.320 --> 00:24:59.120
yeah i don't know it's really not that complicated but it's interesting that people are starting to do these ideas

00:24:57.360 --> 00:25:02.799
because i think oculus is going to be used for a lot more things than just

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:07.520
gaming yeah all right so left 4 dead 2 in source 2

00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:11.279
engine leaks so this is a powerpoint

00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:17.440
presentation that was leaked by a fairly credible

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:21.440
source sea boat also known as crazy botox on a train that sounds credible

00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:25.679
um so it's a leaked by seaboat

00:25:23.520 --> 00:25:29.679
and uh there's some before and after shots of what it might look like on

00:25:27.919 --> 00:25:33.200
source engine which of course has been heavily modified since it was originally

00:25:31.520 --> 00:25:36.960
released they've updated it to the point where i mean really you'll go back to

00:25:35.360 --> 00:25:42.159
the very first source games and they're hardly recognizable as the same engine

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:46.480
yeah but uh the point is that it is obviously

00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:50.640
been upgraded significantly further than that so this would be uh this would be

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:57.840
source two and then there also seem to be some hints

00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:57.840
that uh some some game with you know

00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:05.440
like three uh half-life three might be coming at some point i mean valve is

00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:10.000
always so tight-lipped about this stuff yeah it's okay it seems really fishy to

00:26:07.840 --> 00:26:15.440
me i have to call it so it was not announced by crazy buttocks on a train

00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:19.919
this was a different leak thing and it's super simple one thing about the seaboat

00:26:18.080 --> 00:26:23.440
release was that like the powerpoint looked actually pretty fleshed out yeah

00:26:22.159 --> 00:26:29.039
there was stuff on it there was other slides that weren't shown there was blah blah blah blah and it looked interesting

00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:34.559
and full the other one's just like a directory screenshot it's like yup

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:40.640
cool so like anyone could have renamed files and just been like cool leaked and

00:26:37.520 --> 00:26:42.480
then like why is it actually called hl3

00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:49.039
yeah i can't imagine that like they didn't code name it at all really

00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:50.960
okay yeah i don't know it doesn't seem

00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:55.039
super crazy legit to me so i don't know about that one but the

00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:59.520
the seaboat one seems quite a bit more legit

00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:04.720
this is interesting yeah this is really interesting so next up is google

00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:09.360
has begun ranking isps the same way that netflix

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:12.080
did so netflix repeat released this report

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:15.120
when was that that was what not that long ago six months ago maybe yeah

00:27:13.840 --> 00:27:19.200
really not that long ago not that long ago where remember there's the speed

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:24.080
your internet service provider advertises to you

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.679
50 megabit or 100 megabit or whatever

00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:30.000
and then there's the speed that you're actually getting particularly for

00:27:27.919 --> 00:27:35.760
certain demanding services like on-demand video and typically

00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:38.400
it is not anywhere near the level of

00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:43.440
what they're advertising and i find like people like my mom are going to have no

00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:47.600
idea what that means yeah like my my internet is this fast what does that

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.760
allow me to do no idea so now this translates that

00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:57.760
information into something that makes a lot more sense my my internet is capable

00:27:54.960 --> 00:28:02.159
of running youtube in hd verified mode oh well that's good so hd verified in

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:07.840
order to qualify you have to be able to run a 720p stream 90 of the time without

00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.840
any hitches i mean a lot of people complain about youtube issues but i mean

00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:16.399
maybe that's what prompted them to do this because many of the issues like

00:28:14.320 --> 00:28:19.600
you'll go okay no my internet's plenty fast i can download something from here

00:28:17.919 --> 00:28:24.880
and it's fast but then i go to play youtube videos and it's crappy

00:28:22.399 --> 00:28:28.640
that's probably your isp dinking around and it's actually less likely that

00:28:26.399 --> 00:28:32.960
that's google that is not able to deliver you the video in a timely manner

00:28:31.360 --> 00:28:37.440
and it's a lot safer for them to do that too because especially with downloads

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:40.720
they have a lot of time rated speeds and youtube videos you just see it lagging

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:45.840
you don't know why it doesn't show like it is downloading at this fast blah blah

00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:47.760
blah one thing that i wish they did was

00:28:45.840 --> 00:28:52.960
i wish they had almost say different tiers

00:28:49.679 --> 00:28:55.919
like why is it just you are youtube hd

00:28:52.960 --> 00:29:00.559
verified if you reach this level why is the gold clarified would be nice

00:28:57.679 --> 00:29:06.480
gold verified so it's like 1080p or higher or like you are hd standard or

00:29:04.159 --> 00:29:10.000
you sorry youtube standard or youtube hd like i wish there was different levels

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:14.480
this is really cool though it shows so it shows the results in your area for

00:29:12.399 --> 00:29:18.880
who is hd verified who is standard definition verified and then who is

00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:23.200
lower definition so apparently bell in my area is low rubbish

00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:28.480
um i don't know anyone that has i don't know anyone that has a bell connection like i gotta wonder if that's mobile or

00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.640
something yeah it's weird i don't even know what's up with that

00:29:29.919 --> 00:29:37.200
but uh there you go very cool who are some of these people breaks it down into

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:42.320
so so what quality people were watching at during those times so this is how

00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:46.559
many streams overall so the peak was around 8 or 9 pm which makes perfect

00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:51.039
sense and then what percentage of them were able to run in hd that's really

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:55.760
really cool so telus low tier for example was only able to achieve

00:29:53.760 --> 00:29:59.279
about eighty percent of its streams in hd

00:29:57.600 --> 00:30:02.960
that's low tier or whatever but then that's a low tier it's interesting because that's a lot more translatable

00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:09.120
to someone who just wants an internet connection and isn't really that

00:30:05.760 --> 00:30:09.919
interested in normal people yeah

00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:13.840
so time to time to rage face a little bit

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:19.039
yeah do you want it do you want to handle this i don't think we can you can

00:30:16.399 --> 00:30:23.360
tag team it sure my almost problem with this is that it's the exact

00:30:22.399 --> 00:30:29.360
same thing and we will be saying the exact

00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:33.679
same things as we did last time because it's exactly the same

00:30:31.360 --> 00:30:37.360
but this time it's been scientifically torn

00:30:34.840 --> 00:30:41.279
down categorically torn down analytically torn down by tweak town

00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:48.559
so this was a great little article from paul alcorn where he basically goes okay

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:52.080
back blaze's thing that they released where they

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:57.679
graphed hard drive reliability and failure rates over time um showing

00:30:54.880 --> 00:31:01.200
seagate to have an abysmally terrible failure rate which i called out at the

00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:05.360
time i said well it looks like a lot of these results are being skewed by one

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:09.360
batch of a particular drive and there were other problems with it than that so

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:13.840
he actually dug through backblaze's excellent blog and found a lot of the

00:31:11.120 --> 00:31:17.520
information that he needed to refute the claims that were being made with respect

00:31:15.360 --> 00:31:22.000
to drive reliability which was which was really interesting um

00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:25.600
so basically he dug through and went okay

00:31:23.679 --> 00:31:31.520
this graph is interesting but it can't possibly have a basis in

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:34.080
reality because even wd's annual failure

00:31:31.520 --> 00:31:38.799
rate of three percent based on what i personally already know about the margin

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.559
that exists on a hard drive for a company like western digital would put

00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:47.279
them out of business yeah they wouldn't they wouldn't exist if that was their

00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:51.360
actual failure rate in the field so you have to consider a number of

00:31:49.600 --> 00:31:56.559
things so number one is these are consumer grade drives being used in an

00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:58.159
enterprise environment

00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:02.159
there was a lot of them that were ripped out of enclosures because something they

00:31:59.919 --> 00:32:06.080
found which is very true is that a lot of times you can find cheaper drives in

00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:10.640
enclosures one of the things is you're not entirely sure which exact drive is

00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:15.360
going to be in there and what bin it was and blah blah blah blah but they were

00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.799
mass purchasing to the point of having some of their employees banned from

00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:23.039
buying hard drives from stores because they were buying so many and this was

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:26.559
during the uh the shortage yeah and then they were like putting out hit lists for

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:29.360
people to go out and buy drives from different stores for them and then

00:32:28.159 --> 00:32:34.799
giving them bounties they were crowdsourcing drives like ridiculous so

00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:38.000
they could get these external drives and then do what they call shucking which is

00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:43.600
just like corn taking all the outside off and then using this internal hard drive so

00:32:41.679 --> 00:32:46.640
they're using drives from wherever the heck because they're getting all these

00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.320
externals who knows how they were transported

00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:55.279
i mean that's a big thing guys let me tell you the failure rates for hard

00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:59.279
drives are affected in a significant way by the manner in which they are shipped

00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:05.039
or delivered from wherever they're coming from to the customer yep so so

00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:10.480
yeah so sourcing was an issue um the fact that the drives weren't all running

00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:12.960
in the same environment at all at all

00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:17.279
was a big issue so different enclosures uh many of the failed drives were

00:33:15.360 --> 00:33:21.120
running in an older style of enclosure that caused more vibration some of the

00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:24.960
drives were going to be running near the center of enormous racks of drives where

00:33:23.679 --> 00:33:28.799
it was i think they were observing temperatures up to what 10 degrees

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:34.000
hotter or something it's like if you have an entire huge row of um rack mount

00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:39.279
servers like huge rows of them the in the middle

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:44.080
of the row so rack rack rack crack crack crack crack crack rack in the middle

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:47.360
find the hottest and at the top you'd find the hottest so the middle top

00:33:45.679 --> 00:33:51.120
drives are going to be quite a bit hotter than the other ones yeah so the

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:55.519
huge temperature ranges which there have been reports that temperature

00:33:53.840 --> 00:33:58.000
doesn't affect hard drive failure rates from them

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.840
but the manufacturers all seem to be aligned on

00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:11.280
this i mean you look at guys like seagate and wd they don't agree on much

00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:15.280
but what they do agree on is that vibration is bad and so that older

00:34:13.359 --> 00:34:21.599
enclosure that seagate's drives were running in was terrible and they they

00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.839
agree that heat is bad hard drives have

00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:28.800
manufacturer suggested operating temperatures that you should stay within

00:34:25.919 --> 00:34:33.119
and then lower is better according to the actual manufacturers

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:38.079
that actually engineer this stuff so basically once again backblaze has

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:42.320
gotten everyone talking about them um by making a sensationalist headline and

00:34:40.399 --> 00:34:46.000
then they got tweet sound to have to talk about them some more and generate

00:34:43.919 --> 00:34:50.320
even more publicity for them i mean and the funny thing is the tweetdown article

00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:55.040
isn't even like hating on backblaze because a lot of what they were doing

00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:59.200
was to help customers it was well intentioned really cheap

00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:02.280
storage for their customers it's like okay

00:35:00.640 --> 00:35:06.320
so but then just like please stop sensationalizing stuff

00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:09.920
you know please that's all i like throwing companies other companies under

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:14.240
the bus pretty hard yeah i mean throwing someone like seagate under the bus

00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:18.400
because like you wanted to make headlines really feels like not a good

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.160
uh not a very good you know partner if it

00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:24.960
doesn't feel good to do it feels really icky

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:29.440
yeah um there was there was a yeah there's a bunch of stuff we talked about it all

00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:33.440
but like i think they're on their third revision of black based server

00:35:31.359 --> 00:35:38.880
another thing that bugs me too is in the in the more detailed charts um you can

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:43.280
find like there was years of difference between when drives were deployed too

00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:47.040
yeah which is a huge deal yes

00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:50.960
i mean to actually determine this scientifically you would have to have a

00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:55.040
controlled environment you'd have to source all the drives from the same

00:35:52.560 --> 00:35:58.800
place you would have to have them all performing approximately the same work i

00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:02.880
mean that was another thing was uh that was their whole enterprise versus

00:36:00.640 --> 00:36:07.200
consumer grade drives one where they had them doing completely different things i

00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:13.599
mean that's ridiculous i'll be the first to tell you guys an enterprise or server

00:36:10.640 --> 00:36:16.640
grade workload will kill a consumer grade drive

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:20.320
did i tell you how many drives failed in my Windows home server my original one

00:36:18.640 --> 00:36:24.960
didn't weren't they just basically like candy they were basically like i i

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.240
probably had anywhere between eight and a dozen drives fail over the couple of

00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:33.599
years that i was running it and the reason for that was because of the way

00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:37.599
that Windows home server v1 worked data was constantly being shuffled around and

00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:42.560
balanced between the drives for redundancy because it didn't use raid so

00:36:39.839 --> 00:36:48.000
what happened was my boot drives would die because the boot drive couldn't be

00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:52.240
manually removed from the drive pool so it had to handle running in os and doing

00:36:49.680 --> 00:36:55.760
all that stuff and then it had to handle having data sort of swapped back and

00:36:54.320 --> 00:37:00.400
forth on it all the time and that thing would thrash constantly and i just

00:36:57.839 --> 00:37:03.680
drip die die die die die and it was a real pain when they died so i eventually

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:07.680
replaced it with an Intel SSD which is running to this day

00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:12.480
because i mean it's not a ton of writes it's

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:17.200
just a lot of random all over the place which will wear out a hard drive faster

00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:17.200
than it will in SSD

00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:25.359
jumping to be wi-fi no actually i wanted to go to

00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:31.359
hawaii's post on the forum so speaking of pc

00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:36.240
component failure rates these numbers may actually be slightly more credible

00:37:33.359 --> 00:37:41.280
because at least it's a wider sample and is actual um components that are being

00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:44.960
deployed into the field by a retailer there's there's still there are problems

00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:51.599
yeah i know there are problems the sample sizes vary anywhere from hundreds

00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:53.119
of units to thousands of units um the

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:58.720
who knows if someone bought a whole bunch and then put them in a weird configuration uh they're none of them

00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.000
will be in the same like very few of them will be in the same cases in the

00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:06.400
same configurations yes none of them are really going to be the same temperatures

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:11.440
but letting end users use them is not a controlled environment but it's much

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:13.520
wider which almost helps it yeah that

00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:17.599
almost makes it more relevant to the average consumer who's looking to buy

00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:22.079
something so there's lots oh yeah another thing to consider about this

00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:24.160
guys is that it does not account for

00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:27.280
failed products that get returned to the manufacturer

00:38:25.839 --> 00:38:32.320
because they have no way of tracking that this is only ones that came back to

00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:34.720
the retailer so some some manufacturers

00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:38.079
in particular have notices right inside their packaging that says hey yo uh go

00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:41.119
through us don't go back to your retailer and i'm not saying they're not

00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:44.560
trying to hide anything from the retailers it's just that i think some of

00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:49.839
them feel like they want to be in charge of their own customer service and do a great job of

00:38:48.240 --> 00:38:53.440
taking out taking care of this customer that has a dead product and i think

00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:57.839
that's where the motivation comes from but there were just there were some really interesting numbers a Gigabyte

00:38:56.160 --> 00:39:02.480
did really well with respect to average failure rates ASUS and asrock did really

00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.160
well MSI didn't do very well but it looks like it was skewed by one model

00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:10.320
that's cool because this breaks it out by manufacturer as well as by individual

00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:14.560
models where which is really cool where it's relevant um

00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:17.200
or where it's uh where it's where they had enough of them that's what i was

00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:20.880
looking for where they had a big enough sample size were you surprised by

00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:23.200
anything in here um

00:39:23.839 --> 00:39:28.800
not really i mean i worked at a retailer for years yeah i know that's why i was

00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:35.440
just wondering and it's it's funny because uh there is so much talk from

00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:39.359
consumers about who makes reliable graphics cards and who makes blah blah

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:45.520
you know what there's like four factories making all this stuff

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:47.599
and they are all have extremely advanced

00:39:45.520 --> 00:39:53.760
equipment and they're all improving their qa processes all the time and you

00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:59.440
can do the simple math which is like i've seen accusations made that a

00:39:56.480 --> 00:40:04.480
manufacturer has huge rma rates half of them die you can assume that if that

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:10.400
were the case they would not exist there have been products that were extremely

00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:15.280
bad and you know i'm not going to throw anyone under the bus here

00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:20.880
okay i will the striker extreme was a terrible product it was an awful

00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.680
motherboard rma rates above 25 for that

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:25.599
board over the entirety of its lifetime there

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.920
are lemons there's higher than that in this dock

00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:33.520
yeah so there there's stuff like that but the thing that the thing that

00:40:31.040 --> 00:40:36.079
doesn't surprise me is that stuff happens

00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:41.599
and the other thing too that this is another flaw with this is that it's only i think

00:40:39.520 --> 00:40:46.079
what six months of data or a year of data or something like that yeah so it's

00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:50.160
it's a limited time frame where one manufacturer can just have a bad a bad

00:40:48.640 --> 00:40:55.359
spell for a bit and then that can make them look really bad on this report when that's not

00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.720
necessarily the ongoing case although it does include some data from the previous

00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.760
year in this report as well so it was very interesting

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:08.480
very interesting overall this is this is awesome uh ocz petrol

00:41:04.640 --> 00:41:12.079
and octane SSD return rates um in the 40

00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:15.839
plus percent ranges and a lot of talk

00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:17.760
occurred about ocz rma rates and what i

00:41:15.839 --> 00:41:22.160
would say at the time is guys yeah there are bad apples petrol was a terrible

00:41:19.680 --> 00:41:26.079
drive i've returned hundreds of them but without even selling them when i

00:41:23.680 --> 00:41:30.800
realized what was going on but something like vertex 4 and vertex 3 and vertex 2

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:34.560
before that i ran those vertex 4s for a really long time yep and and so did a

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:37.920
lot of people no i mean for like test benching yeah

00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:42.560
and i beat the crap out of them when i was dispatching so like yeah pretty cool

00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:47.520
so anyway so there you go you guys should definitely check that out on the forum

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:52.000
um it's also posted on Linus tech tips facebook which i've started becoming a

00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:56.319
lot more active on so if you guys follow or like Linus tech on facebook then

00:41:54.160 --> 00:41:59.040
you'll see things that i will post there it actually gets some exclusive content

00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:05.280
now apparently there is a thread in pc gaming for candy ass candy eater high

00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:11.000
score bonanza excellent i'm gonna post that in the twitch chat so people can

00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:14.880
find that fantastic i'm probably gonna jump on

00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:19.040
there at some point because i actually find it quite entertaining

00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.880
b wi-fi this is an article from ours technica lets you steal your neighbors

00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:27.760
bandwidth when they're not using it but i think steel is a bit of um as a bit of

00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:32.560
a misnomer here because what the video actually suggests is more of a wi-fi

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.800
sharing concept so i'm just gonna turn that down

00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:41.599
mostly you know what let's not even watch the video because overall i'm kind of

00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:45.680
looking at this going like what are you high

00:42:43.200 --> 00:42:49.680
um now you can try and defend it if you want um i think it makes sense in

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:53.040
certain regions i think you saw that in my notes which is actually what they

00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:57.119
were targeting too i don't think like where where where anywhere that i have

00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:02.160
ever lived nope so basically except for dorms at

00:43:00.160 --> 00:43:05.119
university but then they would have their own yeah

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:12.400
everyone would have their own login anyway so the way that be wi-fi works is is you

00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:18.960
you basically sign up and make your wi-fi hotspot part of a larger network

00:43:16.319 --> 00:43:24.240
that anyone else who is also signed up can jump on and jump off

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:28.960
at will as they move around even so if you had a very very dense

00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:34.079
city for example and everyone was signed up the idea is that you'd be able to

00:43:31.359 --> 00:43:38.079
move seamlessly around the city and have wi-fi connectivity rather than relying

00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:42.960
on your mobile data everywhere the problem that i see for this is that

00:43:40.240 --> 00:43:49.119
even in a densely populated area convincing people to use this

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.640
apparently they have been um and that's

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.560
because of their target audience too they're not targeting us they're

00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:58.640
targeting like um like they said emerging emerging economies and places

00:43:56.560 --> 00:44:03.280
that have terrible internet like this is where you cannot have a skype call at

00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.760
all or where you cannot watch like youtube pretty much

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.640
at all um or very low quality of each of them

00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:15.680
and very intermittent of each of them and the idea is allowing you to actually

00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:19.119
use some internet services this isn't really designed for people with like

00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.640
google fiber this is not targeted that they're

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:26.960
pushing it out in certain areas of south america i don't

00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.319
think they have any plans currently for pushing it out in areas in like north

00:44:28.640 --> 00:44:33.599
america and stuff this is targeted at a different audience this is not targeted

00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:38.720
at you yeah but i mean just okay fine fine okay

00:44:36.319 --> 00:44:42.240
all of that aside from a sheer liability perspective yes there's a lot

00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:46.000
of other people using your internet connection there's that but recently i

00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:49.920
don't see okay part of this and i know you're gonna bring this up part of this

00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:52.960
is i have no idea what the laws are there

00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:56.880
so where they're pushing it out i have no idea how the laws come into play the

00:44:55.200 --> 00:45:00.560
states at least um it was recently ruled that your ip is

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:04.800
not valid identity okay so in the states it wouldn't be a

00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:10.560
big deal not just that though forget ip being

00:45:07.520 --> 00:45:12.319
valid to identify you uh it's not like

00:45:10.560 --> 00:45:16.400
you know let's let's let's say let's say someone was doing something illegal

00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:21.040
downloading child porn on your internet connection your isp will know

00:45:19.839 --> 00:45:26.800
who that was uh they will know that that came to your

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:30.480
connection forget forget your ip and somewhat like if someone's actually

00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:36.240
working with your isp to identify someone doing illegal things

00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:38.720
it can come back at you yes and you are

00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:42.560
responsible in many places for what happens on your internet yes in many

00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:46.800
places but we don't know the laws down there that's true

00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:50.800
so i have no idea in the states again ip is no longer identity um

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:56.160
and there's there's some stuff that's gonna have to go on they have if you read through the article they have

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:59.760
brought up like security a few times but i don't know exactly what that means i

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.720
don't know if it means that if someone is

00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.640
sharing your bandwidth that's another thing

00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:09.520
like how exactly the router interfaces outside yeah

00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:12.720
i don't know because they haven't like released super

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.800
technical information as far as i can tell yeah it's very basic right now so

00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:20.319
maybe maybe a lot of what i don't like about it is just because i don't have

00:46:18.240 --> 00:46:23.839
enough information yeah because it could be like it just helps that router in

00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:27.040
some way however the heck that works exactly because like the idea is even

00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:30.880
when you're not on the go you can be in your house and like your connection is

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.720
rubbish for some reason but your your neighbor has lots of available bandwidth

00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:39.839
and you can like borrow from them so does that mean that all identifying

00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:44.400
packets would be coming and going from their router not yours like i don't know

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:47.760
how it works um yeah i'm not sure and then the security

00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:51.520
thing i'm kind of expecting that the only way it's secure is that it's

00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:56.079
because you're sharing bandwidth you're not sharing an actual

00:46:53.680 --> 00:46:59.520
local network so i don't think they'd be able to see your individual computers

00:46:57.520 --> 00:47:03.599
how the devil would you do that and isp would have to be the one

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:08.160
load balancing there no not necessarily

00:47:05.680 --> 00:47:11.440
sharing bandwidth like and like they're talking about this

00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:16.319
like in wi-fi terms like like

00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:20.400
i i mean i mean multiple visible computers ah that's my only thing and i

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.680
don't think you can connect to multiple hosts no so but i don't think that's

00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:27.440
what they're doing okay they're sharing within the rotors

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:31.599
okay yeah well let's see

00:47:29.040 --> 00:47:36.319
i'd well stay tuned i don't know all i could find on it was

00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:41.760
not super detailed information so i'm not really sure ours technica posts uh

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:45.440
this is like the best thing ever we actually had this discussion last week

00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:49.280
on the lan show is for better

00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:53.680
uh for for a more innovative and more enlightened approach to technology would

00:47:51.520 --> 00:47:59.040
you move would you pack your bags and go somewhere with better internet and and

00:47:56.000 --> 00:48:02.079
better technological infrastructure

00:47:59.040 --> 00:48:04.640
south korea has banned unremovable

00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:08.800
mobile bloatware both from the carrier level and from the

00:48:06.720 --> 00:48:12.720
handset provider level which is was really surprising to me because you

00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:17.119
look at how um well okay up until very recently i don't

00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:24.000
know if you saw this it's not in the dock but samsung and google have come to an agreement that samsung will begin

00:48:22.240 --> 00:48:28.079
removing their replica their uh functionality

00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:31.839
replicating apps from their handsets yeah so i think uh

00:48:30.240 --> 00:48:37.599
there's there's a couple that are slated to go right away but you know how you'll

00:48:34.319 --> 00:48:39.119
have you know calendar and like ask

00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:44.400
calendar like mail like s mail

00:48:41.520 --> 00:48:47.680
gmail you know i don't know snail mail like you have all these duplicated

00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:52.400
applications on your phone by default and you can't remove any of them well

00:48:50.240 --> 00:48:58.000
samsung and google have finally started to come to terms on that or reconcile

00:48:55.200 --> 00:49:02.319
there and now like iphones hasn't really been a big deal um Android it has to a

00:49:00.720 --> 00:49:06.400
certain degree but then like people have been able to get around it but then not

00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:09.599
that many people yeah i mean my mom couldn't do it exactly so this does

00:49:08.319 --> 00:49:13.599
actually help a lot i've seen a lot of people be like well well i ruined my

00:49:11.839 --> 00:49:18.880
phone good for you so it's completely fine for me i'm like well that's not the

00:49:16.319 --> 00:49:24.640
point yeah most people well i'm gonna blow your minds most

00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.640
people don't root their phones

00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:31.599
we do but that doesn't mean that and i don't even like doing it it's a pain

00:49:30.160 --> 00:49:35.760
it's funny because so many people are like yeah it's so easy for her i can do

00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:39.119
it in five minutes sure okay if you do it all the time maybe you can do it in

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:43.119
five minutes it's kind of like when i say swapping a graphics card is easy i

00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:46.880
can do it in 30 seconds for someone who's never swapped a graphics card

00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:50.640
before and maybe they have better things to do than spend this time doing it they

00:49:49.040 --> 00:49:56.000
will have to go and read about it and make sure they will have to research which one to buy they might not know the

00:49:54.160 --> 00:49:58.880
best place to get it so they might spend more et cetera et cetera et cetera

00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:03.920
there's a there's a learning curve there's always a learning curve with anything new

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:09.040
and every time i've rooted a phone there's been some kind of problem it's

00:50:06.640 --> 00:50:13.680
never at that simple when i did my wife's i've only done two phones but

00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:18.800
when i did my wife's droid dna there was like there was a there was a radio

00:50:15.520 --> 00:50:20.559
update that was you couldn't access

00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:24.000
unless you got the new over the air unless you rooted your phone before you

00:50:22.640 --> 00:50:27.839
applied the new over the air and then you had to do some with so you needed

00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:32.720
like it was it was bizarre there was very little documentation and then when

00:50:29.839 --> 00:50:36.400
i when i did my htc one very recently because i have a developer edition phone

00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:40.559
there was blah blah blah there was this and that and that and half the tools

00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:45.359
that are out there like one guy is had his post removed or he was

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:48.880
banned from xda or something but then you can find it

00:50:47.040 --> 00:50:54.319
elsewhere but then it didn't even work and it's not that simple

00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.520
so that's all there is to it unless you do it all the time and you're just kind

00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.160
of going through a routine and you've done this phone already and you've

00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:04.640
documented it and if you have a super popular phone yeah that helps because it

00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.680
was not easy for your wife's phone especially when i was first tasked with

00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:11.520
it because there was literally no documentation but then if you go try and

00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:15.760
do like an s3 yeah it's

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:19.119
actually not that hard but then that's because there's all the documentation

00:51:17.520 --> 00:51:24.240
you could ever possibly want for every model but then that can be a problem too

00:51:22.640 --> 00:51:27.440
because it can be overwhelming for someone who's new yeah that's true but

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:31.920
they don't know which guides to fight through it and there's quite a few and some of them are more frustrating than

00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:34.800
others and a lot of people pick sides which one's better and then that's

00:51:33.359 --> 00:51:38.480
confusing because you're trying to take sides on an argument like i know people

00:51:36.640 --> 00:51:42.079
people complain a lot my moderator is included about all the threads that pop

00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:46.319
up on the forum all the time Intel versus AMD

00:51:43.839 --> 00:51:52.000
or NVIDIA versus AMD and i don't actually hate it that much

00:51:48.720 --> 00:51:54.400
because i understand that guy

00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:58.480
because he's probably just like what i don't get it what's the answer i want

00:51:57.040 --> 00:52:03.520
an easy answer and then everyone destroys them but like i i get it i'm

00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:07.680
not in that position but i get it it makes sense all right so uh i guess

00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:12.880
that was pretty much all there was to say about that yeah this is really not it's coming right away which actually

00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:17.520
really surprised me like normally you see these kinds of rulings like hey stop

00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:20.960
doing that and it's like you got six months or a year to

00:52:19.359 --> 00:52:26.559
phase it out or whatever it is but i think it's like february yeah sometimes

00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.839
something ridiculous like there's um all

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:31.760
all pre-installed apps must be detectable but there's some deletable

00:52:29.680 --> 00:52:34.800
deletable but there's some stuff that they're kind

00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:40.160
of not worrying about too much which is wi-fi connectivity near field

00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:44.319
communication customer service and app store which i don't understand why samsung

00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:47.680
needs an app store i was gonna say the app store doesn't really make a lot of

00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:53.040
sense or let me remove it everything else kind of does and if i really wanted

00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:56.240
your app store i would go get it yeah

00:52:53.040 --> 00:52:58.800
um nintendo is not being allowed to stop

00:52:56.240 --> 00:53:04.000
certain types of hackers um this is i think

00:53:01.839 --> 00:53:08.720
i don't know i don't know i think they should open up more um nintendo i think

00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:11.599
not i'm okay i don't necessarily think they need to open up their platform

00:53:10.319 --> 00:53:15.440
because they're not going to so i'm not going to try and push them to do that um

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.880
but i think they need to open up to like indies and people playing with their

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.079
platform now this i can understand why they might want to prevent it although i

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:25.760
don't understand region locks i just understand that it's part of their yeah

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:30.880
you know what um you know twitter if you guys can find us

00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:34.400
a fantastic article about why region locks need to exist

00:53:32.640 --> 00:53:38.319
on games i don't the only thing i can possibly

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:44.240
think of is they're hoping there will be that one dude who moves and then has to buy a new

00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:48.000
system in all new games but then like why are you being a jerk to that guy

00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:53.200
just let him keep playing like the one thing i can think of is maybe um esrb

00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:56.640
ratings like the uh you know mature ratings have more than one or whatever

00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:02.160
else and again that doesn't seem to let them deal with it that doesn't seem that

00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:05.760
complicated to just have a global game with all the ratings on it doesn't seem

00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:10.400
complicated um another thing would be packaging

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:14.960
guidelines yeah so multilingual packaging i know in

00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:18.000
canada but then just like don't sell them have it so that you can't sell it

00:54:16.720 --> 00:54:21.839
in different regions but then why would you make it not work

00:54:20.319 --> 00:54:25.599
yeah well okay another thing is gray marketing

00:54:23.520 --> 00:54:28.400
so when it's different pricing in different regions having people just buy

00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:31.920
all their games somewhere on the cheap and it's like you know what

00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:40.240
what what are you gonna do it happens on steam

00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:42.800
it happens physically like and and every

00:54:40.240 --> 00:54:48.960
console gets a hack for not being region locked anymore but anyways um an italian

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:55.040
company named pc box which is kind of funny um has a little piece of hardware

00:54:52.640 --> 00:55:00.240
device that allows you to play games from any region and nintendo is not

00:54:57.839 --> 00:55:03.440
allowed stopping them although nintendo as far as i know hasn't like done a

00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:08.960
legal reply yet yeah so we'll see what happens there um

00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:12.880
i i suspect it's gonna hold but we'll see what happens there anyways

00:55:13.359 --> 00:55:17.520
speaking of nintendo

00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:22.400
so a little bit of deja vu like

00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:25.440
the most accurate version of deja vu i've ever seen i i

00:55:24.160 --> 00:55:28.640
i've been saying for a little while when people have brought this up like this

00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:34.400
just recently happened but then i couldn't really find the article it took me a really long time um but here's a

00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:38.160
quote from 2011 uh well okay first of all in 2011

00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:42.640
they're having the 3ds problems so now here's a quote for cuts in fixed

00:55:40.160 --> 00:55:46.839
salaries i'm taking a 50 cut other representative directories are taking a

00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:49.520
30 cut and other execs are taking a 20 cut and

00:55:48.640 --> 00:55:56.160
that's exactly like pretty much to the t

00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:58.480
what he's doing now because of wii u

00:55:56.160 --> 00:56:02.160
so i yeah there is still time for them to turn wii

00:56:00.240 --> 00:56:05.920
u around i mean takataka i mean for anyone who didn't watch your video i

00:56:03.520 --> 00:56:10.720
didn't watch it um talk about your experience with wii u um it's it's it's

00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:14.960
been really awesome and there's massive rooms for improvement one thing that a

00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:20.400
lot of people have to realize is that like especially i'm talking to pc

00:56:17.520 --> 00:56:25.280
community we're a pc community um i have no interest in any of the other consoles

00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.960
running right now as in new consoles so ps4 and xbox one i couldn't really care

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:34.079
there's the only reason why i could possibly carry is exclusives and then i'm not

00:56:32.319 --> 00:56:37.920
super interested in the exclusives on either of those platforms what i am

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:41.920
super interested in is nintendo exclusives because especially first

00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:46.319
party nintendo exclusives are freaking awesome um

00:56:44.640 --> 00:56:50.000
and they're not moving to any other platform anytime soon or at all ever i

00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:56.160
don't really think personally but we'll see um and like the state of pc right

00:56:53.520 --> 00:57:00.400
now is co-op games are kind of few and far between and most

00:56:58.240 --> 00:57:04.240
games that you could possibly play together with a friend are not really

00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:08.079
co-op designed and aren't really like within the same house

00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:12.799
planned out like a lot of nintendo games are so if you have friends over it's not

00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:16.720
the easiest it now it happens but it's not the easiest thing ever for everyone

00:57:15.040 --> 00:57:20.720
to bring their computer and full rig set up every single time because honestly

00:57:18.640 --> 00:57:25.599
that's kind of annoying it's fun to do every once in a while but it's kind of annoying so if you can have something

00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:29.760
that has a lot of games that are specifically designed for playing with a

00:57:27.680 --> 00:57:33.200
group of people in a small contained environment that's kind of awesome and

00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:37.200
that's what wii u is it's also not a wii which is kind of a

00:57:35.359 --> 00:57:41.359
really big problem and nintendo has recently actually like very blatantly

00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.440
said like yeah this is a problem everyone thinks we use just this tablet

00:57:43.520 --> 00:57:50.000
accessory i can't even like that is we've had this conversation but that is

00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:55.119
so baffling to me that people could think

00:57:51.839 --> 00:57:57.200
that the wii u was a handheld

00:57:55.119 --> 00:58:00.640
but it's well okay okay before people thought it was an accessory before i rip

00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:05.359
on them too hard did anyone watching think that the wii u

00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:09.280
was a was a handheld accessory for the wii and actually can you find that

00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:11.680
article that walked through the uh

00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:18.000
i'm probably not gonna be able to the reasons that people thought that the okay well we we remember a couple of

00:58:15.040 --> 00:58:23.440
them so in NVIDIA are in NVIDIA's in nintendo's advertising they often had

00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:27.040
the controller it's a controller uh with the screen on it front and center stage

00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:33.200
with like a small black box that actually kind of looks like a black wii

00:58:29.200 --> 00:58:35.119
behind it large black wii um and then

00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:39.599
there's a lot of nose but there is definitely a few yeses

00:58:37.200 --> 00:58:44.640
really okay there are some yeses okay why

00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.920
okay there was not i

00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:52.720
i always knew um but as from the people that i've

00:58:50.640 --> 00:58:56.559
specifically talked to in person that didn't know i should put out a straw

00:58:54.720 --> 00:59:00.000
poll for this that's what i'm gonna do um for the new straw poll so the people

00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:05.119
that i've talked to that specifically didn't know um

00:59:03.040 --> 00:59:09.200
what what they're saying is like we just said all the pictures showed this

00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:13.520
handheld tablet thing and all the branding was saying now you can play

00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:17.280
your games on the tablet and you can do some stuff on the tablet and yay

00:59:15.359 --> 00:59:20.480
nintendo yeah it wasn't saying they could have solved this by calling it the

00:59:18.799 --> 00:59:25.040
revolution or that was a way better a dolphin or we

00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:29.200
too all their code names are so much better than their console names lately

00:59:26.720 --> 00:59:32.960
yeah or or like anything that made more sense than we you

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:37.520
we made no sense so i guess it shouldn't have surprised us

00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.520
but i mean still

00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:42.640
okay all right i can see defeat i guess

00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:46.960
it was possible if you're not paying attention like

00:59:44.720 --> 00:59:52.000
the way that we do to tech news to think that the wii u was more of an accessory

00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:55.280
but i it still is sort of baffling to me with how little i care about any given

00:59:54.240 --> 00:59:59.359
console i mean i knew but then again again i do

00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:03.040
pay pretty close attention to headlines and whatnot so i'm gonna i'm gonna grab

01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:06.880
uh slick's link to the straw pool there

01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:15.760
so fast with better ttv if you scroll up it

01:00:12.839 --> 01:00:19.920
pauses all right so anyway

01:00:16.799 --> 01:00:22.400
they're cutting salaries and you know i

01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:26.880
respect that i respect that a lot cutting the executive salaries cutting

01:00:24.319 --> 01:00:30.880
leadership's salaries when a company makes a bad move a company is a ship

01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:37.920
okay and when the ship hits something it's not the fault of the

01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:42.480
guy that was shoveling coal into the furnace in order to power this you know

01:00:40.720 --> 01:00:45.599
the engine he couldn't even see where it was going

01:00:44.319 --> 01:00:48.720
he didn't know you don't you know tell him that you

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:53.760
don't need him to put coal in the furnace anymore because you still need coal in your furnace if you're going to

01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:58.319
go anywhere after you RAM into something you i mean the the the the

01:00:55.839 --> 01:01:01.760
responsibility lies with the leadership and the fact that they're willing to own

01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:05.680
that and they're willing to cut their own salaries rather than hurt their

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:09.839
employees so there weren't any there were there were no firings they just cut

01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:14.960
executive salaries i think is very respectable i mean how how happy would

01:01:12.319 --> 01:01:19.680
you be about working for me if we had a really rough year and i was like

01:01:16.720 --> 01:01:25.359
everyone's getting cut except me come on brutal and the thing is um

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:28.799
we saw a snapback in 2011 we saw a snapback

01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:32.480
company rallied they they dropped some prices they adjusted some things they

01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:37.280
did a few things and we saw a snapback and i fully see that again in what way i

01:01:34.799 --> 01:01:41.440
don't know i already see 3ds making up a lot of money where wii u isn't i don't

01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:46.960
think they necessarily expected 3ds to do as well it is as it is right now

01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:51.200
um so i think that can help off balance the wii u while they hopefully fix it

01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:54.640
there was very recently a patch that massively increased boot time

01:01:53.040 --> 01:01:57.359
interesting you can put it into a game much faster

01:01:56.160 --> 01:02:02.400
and they're thinking of other things they have they have a sale right now for

01:02:00.240 --> 01:02:07.760
um like indie style downloadable only games where if if you buy one or if you

01:02:04.799 --> 01:02:12.720
already own one you get like 60 off the others or some crazy thing like that wow

01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.079
like they're they're making pushes um

01:02:12.720 --> 01:02:17.280
there's a few things that i think they can do um i should have grabbed this i didn't

01:02:16.319 --> 01:02:21.200
realize we're gonna talk about this topic uh this much but there was a thing

01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:25.359
saying that you can play ds games on your wii u now but i don't know and i

01:02:23.200 --> 01:02:29.040
think it's like all uh downloadable store content stuff but i don't know

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:33.440
whether they were specifically talking about ds

01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:38.079
right or if it's like 3ds right like i don't so i don't know what um game

01:02:35.680 --> 01:02:41.839
catalog is actually on there because i might read into it enough um and i don't

01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.040
know if it's official or whatnot like i didn't i didn't think we'd need it for

01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:49.440
the show so i didn't go into it speaking of backpack catalogs playstation 4

01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:53.839
getting ps1 and ps2 compatibility is pretty cool yeah carry on um anyways the

01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:57.440
poll right now is showing about 20 of people

01:02:54.880 --> 01:03:01.520
in our community so fairly informed tech people about 20 of them thought it was

01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:05.760
just a handheld all right well there you go i was wrong

01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:10.400
so if you jump out of the really informed tech community

01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:14.960
yep it's gonna increase the further and further you get away so it's actually a

01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:19.520
pretty significant percentage of people it's amazing because

01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:23.520
you know honestly like i i don't i don't see advertising i just i gloss over it

01:03:22.319 --> 01:03:28.160
completely if i want to know about something i will go specifically looking for it and that's the way that i get my

01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:34.720
information so i don't often consider

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:36.880
how much of an impact a tv ad might have

01:03:34.720 --> 01:03:41.680
on someone's education level about a particular product because to me

01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.200
nothing i will not learn anything from your tv ad because i will specifically

01:03:43.839 --> 01:03:48.880
ignore it whereas i mean if that's what people

01:03:47.359 --> 01:03:52.720
were going based on especially you know moms and dads with

01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:56.000
young kids that aren't really they haven't owned a game console in years if

01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:00.319
at all then different different direct things

01:03:58.240 --> 01:04:04.240
that i pulled uh while doing research was like uh an editor for i don't

01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:09.680
remember what i think it might have been the verge his wife was opening up the

01:04:07.520 --> 01:04:13.760
wii u box from what he had recently purchased and was confused as to why

01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:17.119
there was a wii in it right because she thought it was a wii

01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:23.280
she thought she was just getting the tablet thing she didn't realize there's actually a console that goes with it um

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:27.119
there was moms talking about like going going to say best buy and then

01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:29.920
being confused when employees were trying to sell them wiius because she's

01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:33.920
saying i don't have the budget to buy this 300

01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:38.480
and something dollar this was before the price drop tablet why are you trying to

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:42.640
be this aggressive like leave me alone and they're like but it's not

01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:46.960
and they're like what is because they have no idea because all

01:04:45.200 --> 01:04:50.720
the branding when you look at it is a big tablet and they're like i don't need

01:04:48.640 --> 01:04:53.920
my kids to have this nintendo tablet thing

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:57.520
so there's a lot of confusing messaging and i think nintendo's taking the right

01:04:55.599 --> 01:05:01.359
direction a little bit if if you've been watching trending twitter lately if

01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:05.280
you've been watching reddit lately all this kind of stuff they're up there a

01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:10.640
lot of the time well i think the fact that placed beyond the initial hype

01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:14.640
playstation 4 and xbox one are so uninteresting

01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:18.480
and nintendo's the only one really making additional moves right now but

01:05:16.240 --> 01:05:23.039
like it it makes sense and i i see them trying and the whole i have half my

01:05:21.359 --> 01:05:26.640
salary thing was nothing but good publicity so

01:05:25.359 --> 01:05:30.079
i think i think they might be doing the right things there's 10 billion people

01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:36.079
right now that are trying to say these are all the different things that nintendo has to do to be make better um

01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:39.680
but what i think they have to do is nintendo just has to try really hard and

01:05:38.319 --> 01:05:43.119
i think they'll be fine because they're not they're not a bad

01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:47.280
company they're not stupid they're not stupid um they're they're combining

01:05:45.200 --> 01:05:50.079
their handheld and console divisions they're building that new building so

01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:53.119
they can do it more effectively they're doing all this stuff they're working on

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:56.640
it just let them work on it they'll probably be

01:05:55.119 --> 01:06:00.640
fine um speaking of working on things this

01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:06.319
was a mistake that i made last week i had said that the htc one used a tn

01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.319
panel i was completely wrong it is ips

01:06:06.319 --> 01:06:13.839
it's actually in their own faq about the one which you can find on

01:06:11.200 --> 01:06:19.119
htc's website however i do so it uses super lcd three which is

01:06:16.319 --> 01:06:22.400
ips however i do still remember finding information somewhere and i don't know

01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:27.680
what the credibility of the source was so maybe that was the problem saying

01:06:24.240 --> 01:06:29.839
that super lcd 2 was tn

01:06:27.680 --> 01:06:34.400
i could be wrong about that once again but my point still stands what i said

01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:39.760
last week about not all tn panels being absolutely terrible is true some are

01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:44.720
better than others some are really hard to look at and some are what i would

01:06:41.839 --> 01:06:49.680
call okay not bad acceptable so there my apologies for that

01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:53.839
um this is awesome

01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.039
yeah um i don't think it's the biggest deal i think the prescription part

01:06:55.520 --> 01:07:01.599
matters a lot more than the other part so google is putting glass on different

01:06:59.839 --> 01:07:06.079
frames and they are now supporting prescriptions that is the hipsterist

01:07:03.520 --> 01:07:10.160
looking person that i've seen today there's more of them if you if you go

01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:13.200
through the like last video thing you just automatically look like a

01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:18.480
hipster if you have glass though not like a hipster necessarily like a

01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:22.319
glass hole perhaps i actually haven't used mine in a couple

01:07:20.240 --> 01:07:26.559
weeks i haven't really seen you use it since like the second day you had it

01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:30.640
yeah it's kind of stupid it's amazing how many people were

01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:34.880
wearing them at ces i was kind of like laughing to myself

01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:38.880
um it's it's i don't think personally in the like two seconds that i had to use

01:07:37.200 --> 01:07:42.640
it because you gave it to me to use and then i didn't even want it anymore um i

01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:48.880
i'm you know we're always like we're waiting for revision two or whatever yeah i'm

01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:51.200
waiting for like revision four yeah i

01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:55.520
i don't want this like little glass cube thing it's kind of terrible i want it to

01:07:53.200 --> 01:08:00.240
be the whole lens the problem for me is that it's not adjustable enough i can't

01:07:58.480 --> 01:08:03.280
get the screen in a place where i can comfortably look at it it's like way up

01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:09.200
here and the problem is that my ears are not high enough up

01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:13.280
on my head this could help so this could potentially help because

01:08:11.359 --> 01:08:16.480
they have different frame options now as well as the ability to push prescription

01:08:14.799 --> 01:08:20.799
lenses i think it can only handle from minus four to plus four so no extreme

01:08:18.719 --> 01:08:24.640
prescriptions but it should handle the majority of people who just need a mild

01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:29.199
prescription and want to use google glass so you still have to pay the

01:08:27.040 --> 01:08:33.679
fifteen hundred dollar entry fee just to people be part of the google

01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:39.920
glass explorer program that hasn't gone away and you get to pay another

01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.359
225 bucks for the different frames

01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:46.880
and then you get to pay they have new tinted shades uh up 150 bucks for those

01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:51.120
so there's 40 combinations of colors frames and shades now

01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:54.520
actually pretty crazy speaking of things that are expensive this battle in eve

01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.120
so

01:08:57.120 --> 01:09:03.279
yeah this happens like every kind of once in a while but this one was a

01:09:00.799 --> 01:09:06.000
little bit absurd um usually it'll be like the biggest battle of eve ever it

01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:11.600
was a little bit bigger than the last one this one's like the biggest battle of eve ever it was insane this one

01:09:09.679 --> 01:09:18.000
doesn't make any sense everything went nuts um so many people lost so much

01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:20.640
stuff um the the kind of like not

01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:24.159
surprising this always happens thing kind of happened where someone forgot to

01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:29.040
pay their bill on a building uh so that building holds sovereignty in

01:09:26.719 --> 01:09:32.319
the area if you have that certain structures and whatnot are protected

01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:35.920
like stations just explain what stations and not

01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:40.080
everyone so like if you have a space station yeah it is protected like in

01:09:38.080 --> 01:09:43.520
that system in that system yeah so within that system if you have a space

01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:47.359
station and you have sovereignty there which is based on having another

01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:53.520
building which has maintenance costs and whatnot i'm trying to not go way over

01:09:49.759 --> 01:09:53.520
crazy uh so it's like the creep

01:09:54.320 --> 01:10:00.400
other people can't build on your crap while you have your creep kinda but they

01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:03.600
can build the things that take that over but then they have to defend them and

01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:08.640
they have to go online yeah but essentially if that goes down

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:13.840
it becomes much easier to kind of shut someone's system down and take it over

01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:14.800
essentially um system as in like area in

01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:19.440
space uh solar system

01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:22.480
there we go um so so yeah

01:10:20.719 --> 01:10:28.000
there's some people complaining because apparently the the holdings corporation

01:10:25.440 --> 01:10:32.480
that was holding that was paying for that building

01:10:30.080 --> 01:10:36.880
had enough money and the check box was checked for it to auto withdrawal so it

01:10:35.040 --> 01:10:41.120
should have never had problems with payments because it had more than enough

01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:45.679
money like tons of money and the thing was checked and it still went down

01:10:43.440 --> 01:10:49.360
so they're pretty not stoked about that and they're claiming bug and blah blah

01:10:47.440 --> 01:10:52.719
blah blah so we're going to see what happens with

01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:56.159
that eventually but who knows i don't know i don't think

01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:02.159
anything's going to come from that to be completely honest and none of that will affect the fact that this cost five

01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:06.320
hundred thousand dollars of real world money as they're estimating yeah uh i've

01:11:04.719 --> 01:11:10.320
seen estimates anywhere from two hundred thousand to five hundred thousand so

01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:14.800
quite a range uh we'll see what it ends up at but i'm i'm kind of there's been

01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:19.520
there's been more of the estimates at the 500 000 range i haven't seen any

01:11:17.120 --> 01:11:23.600
like list of lost ships or anything like that um i know there's been over a

01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:26.960
hundred titans lost uh if you haven't played eve titans are

01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:31.679
like when you first start playing and you're like oh there's lots of ships what are

01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:35.520
the biggest coolest ships the titans are like massively ridiculously bigger and

01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:41.360
more badass than all the other ones and then everyone gets all excited and then realizes they can't fly them for like a

01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:44.800
year and a half or something um at the very least i don't remember exactly what

01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:49.760
it is but those are titans they're worth about three grand each and there's been

01:11:47.360 --> 01:11:53.360
over a hundred of them lost uh one of the guys from one of the corporations

01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:56.719
was talking about how in a previous war it was such a huge deal and they had

01:11:55.120 --> 01:12:00.719
lost and whatever whatever and they lost seven titans and it was like a super big

01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:05.840
deal that they lost seven titans and this time they killed 40 within a small

01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.719
window time frame and were like yeah there's still 12 hours until server

01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:12.880
downtime and there's server down time like every day and they're like yeah we're going to

01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:17.600
kill a whole bunch more this is ridiculous like this is this is insane

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:22.719
like every single time there's a giant big record in eve it's insane but this

01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:24.000
is even more insane than it was before

01:12:22.719 --> 01:12:27.840
part of my problem with knowledge on this is i haven't played eve in quite a while now

01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:33.920
um apparently it's nine months straight of training to fly it then you have to have

01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:37.440
stuff for like fittings and actually being able to fly it well and stuff like

01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:41.199
that and titans titans are interesting because people people call them

01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:44.960
essentially coffins because once you get in like you can't dock in anything

01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:49.520
because ships can dock in you so once you start flying a titan you essentially

01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:53.280
fly that titan until you die in the game

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:57.760
essentially so it's it's interesting a hundred over a hundred titan pilots were

01:12:55.199 --> 01:13:01.600
finally freed from their coffins um freed from their coffins that's one way

01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:05.199
of looking at it uh yeah i don't know that was kind of

01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:09.920
insane i'm excited to read more about it um

01:13:08.320 --> 01:13:14.800
because a lot of the news i found on this is from two days ago and a lot of

01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:20.159
it is estimations so i'm excited to see the like this is what happened this is

01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:23.920
exactly what happened this checkbox was unchecked or this bill came out and they

01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:28.880
didn't expect so it brought them below this amount of money or ccp screwed up

01:13:26.719 --> 01:13:31.440
or whatever whatever there was a mole or something like that i'm excited for all

01:13:30.080 --> 01:13:36.000
that information and i'm excited for the final dollar amount because that should legitimately be

01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:41.040
pretty interesting um what was also really interesting i'm

01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:45.440
buying time for you to finish that what was also really interesting was reading

01:13:43.280 --> 01:13:48.960
the dialogues between all the players because like i said 4 000 players and

01:13:47.679 --> 01:13:54.719
this was like there was corporations from russia there was people from the states there was all over the world so

01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:58.800
there's people that took time off work like quite a few people that like

01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:03.440
officially took time off work like vacation days so they could go home and

01:14:01.120 --> 01:14:07.199
play eve because the player base in eve is actually a little bit older than

01:14:05.120 --> 01:14:10.800
quite a few games because some people call it a spreadsheet

01:14:08.320 --> 01:14:14.480
simulator um so so people are taking time off work and coming home people

01:14:12.320 --> 01:14:19.199
were like i think some dude skipped a flight um people were like stuck in

01:14:17.360 --> 01:14:24.800
airports playing on their laptops which was super laggy like the things people

01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:28.400
did to be able to defend their homeland

01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:30.080
or to attack this area was insane and

01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:33.440
it's it's really interesting so if you have the time like

01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:37.520
google it look it up because even just reading some of the like the the twitter

01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:44.080
interaction and reading through some of the forums is is ridiculous because this fight was

01:14:41.280 --> 01:14:49.280
just nuts so um did i buy enough time today yeah i think

01:14:45.679 --> 01:14:50.800
i think i'm good now yes wait oh hold on

01:14:49.280 --> 01:14:54.320
no no need another minute

01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:59.360
all right my favorite thing to do in eve because i'm talking about nothing at this point in time don't you have any

01:14:57.440 --> 01:15:04.320
other topics no i think there is something oh yeah artificial artificial

01:15:01.679 --> 01:15:07.360
cheese is stupid i was at subway today and they were like yeah we're out of

01:15:05.679 --> 01:15:11.840
cheddar cheese so do you want this i'm like is that processed cheese and the

01:15:09.679 --> 01:15:16.159
girl's like i don't know what

01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:18.400
is it cheese or is it plastic

01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:24.239
because they're not the same thing cheese is a dairy product processed

01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:27.760
cheese is garbage and if i'm gonna be

01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:30.400
paying for a sandwich that has actual

01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:35.600
cheese that costs a lot more than processed cheese included in the price

01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:39.600
no you may not swap out artificial cheese for real cheese why do we even

01:15:37.679 --> 01:15:43.600
call it cheese they're not allowed to call whipped topping whipped cream why

01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:48.960
are we allowed to call processed cheese cheese it's disgusting anyway that was

01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:53.440
just a rant that i knew i'm so mad so she's like well we have shredded cheese

01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:57.120
i'm like i'm melting it anyway yeah put that on that's fantastic thank you very

01:15:55.360 --> 01:16:00.960
much for finding a solution to this problem that was obviously going to

01:15:59.120 --> 01:16:03.760
upset me a whole lot i've actually been wondering for a little while why people

01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:07.360
haven't been pushing like i don't really care that

01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:12.159
much to be completely honest but why other people haven't thought of this and

01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:16.880
been pushing for uh forcing different names on heavily gmo'd products

01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:21.360
yes because if it is if it is something different because you have changed like

01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:25.920
dna strains and you have genetically modified it

01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:27.679
then is it still a banana

01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:32.719
or is it something else and the organic one is banana

01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:37.600
banana plus banana you

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:42.960
is it still a banana oh i'll banana you all right

01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:45.920
um okay so i think i am ready now

01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:50.719
i have been receiving many messages and trust me i always intended to do

01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:55.280
something but i wanted to keep it kind of quiet because

01:16:52.800 --> 01:17:00.000
like i don't know how i'm gonna actually i don't know i don't know how i'm gonna

01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:04.080
keep this quiet enough to refer okay well whatever screw it he's going to

01:17:02.400 --> 01:17:08.719
yeah he'll figure it out it's like immediately like immediately okay guys

01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:11.920
keep keep your traps shut can i trust you to do that please don't we're trying

01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:17.280
to do a good thing yeah we're trying to do a nice thing here and you guys are

01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:20.000
gonna muck it up if you do things all

01:17:17.280 --> 01:17:23.120
right so basically um i don't know if you guys know this but on

01:17:21.320 --> 01:17:28.560
linustechtips.com there's actually a store now and if you are not a forum

01:17:26.400 --> 01:17:32.960
contributor the store looks empty other than contributor badges so that's

01:17:30.320 --> 01:17:37.040
monthly subscription fees those help us do all the things that we do just so you

01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:39.679
know it's not just for the forum if you guys appreciate the work we do and you

01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:45.199
want to contribute to what we're doing we would very much appreciate if you'd pick up a subscription but if you are

01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:49.600
not a contributor it looks kind of empty if you are a contributor there are some

01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:52.880
things in there and i will be adding a lot more some of them are samples some

01:17:51.679 --> 01:17:59.760
of them are things i've bought and don't need anymore but it's basically discounted tech stuff and the discounts

01:17:56.640 --> 01:18:01.920
get better for higher contribution

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:04.239
levels so be ready for that guys because i'm going to be hitting it with a flood

01:18:03.280 --> 01:18:08.560
of stuff sometime in the next couple of weeks but

01:18:06.719 --> 01:18:14.480
in the meantime something that is accessible to everyone is this item that

01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:20.080
i just created i only have one of them so only the first person

01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:26.000
will be able to buy it this is an MSI gtx 780 lightning edition

01:18:23.440 --> 01:18:29.840
for 500 bucks plus shipping and whatever applicable taxes are going to get billed

01:18:27.679 --> 01:18:33.679
to you when it arrives i'll ship it anywhere in the world but it should be

01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:36.960
noted that the chances of it arriving in one piece are a lot better if you're

01:18:35.440 --> 01:18:42.080
within north america because shipping internationally is sort of horrible

01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:47.120
so 500 bucks and the proceeds go to austin evans to help him with something

01:18:44.400 --> 01:18:52.080
that is undisclosed at this time well i mean his house burned down so obviously

01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:55.600
we know that that something bad happened

01:18:52.080 --> 01:18:57.600
and uh you know something has to be done

01:18:55.600 --> 01:19:01.600
but exactly what the proceeds will go towards will be disclosed later but that

01:19:00.400 --> 01:19:05.840
500 is definitely for him so this comes out

01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:12.560
of our someone's like will you take bitcoin no um so convert bitcoin to cash and buy it

01:19:10.320 --> 01:19:17.760
this is something i don't understand why do you need retailers to accept bitcoin

01:19:15.280 --> 01:19:23.760
because they all do the same thing they take bitcoin at a horrible exchange rate

01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:27.280
like a terrible one just convert it and save money buy things

01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:31.840
i don't okay anyway sorry sorry i'm gonna be ranting again so

01:19:29.280 --> 01:19:35.840
austin's house burned down wasn't his fault it was someone on a different

01:19:33.280 --> 01:19:40.640
floor whose heater lit on fire it burned to the ground he lost almost everything

01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:43.679
all he has is a safe with some personal belongings that he didn't say what it

01:19:42.480 --> 01:19:48.320
was he's got his macbook he's has he's has

01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:53.760
his phone and that's just about it i don't know what his insurance situation

01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:55.760
was so at any rate guys um

01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:59.360
i posted the link and someone's like give austin a job

01:19:57.679 --> 01:20:03.199
austin doesn't need a job from me he'll be back on his feet in no time he's he's

01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:07.600
he's he's a good kid he's he's a good guy what did you price

01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:12.000
it at i put it for 500 bucks so that's about 100 under retail

01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:18.880
so proceeds to austin apparently it's gone already so if if on if someone if whoever

01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:22.880
tried to buy it doesn't actually end up sending the money or whatever else

01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:27.199
oh i really hope i set it to only one in stock because i only have one only the

01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:31.040
first person will get it guys only the first person will get it

01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:35.600
oh i said number in stock oh no okay that's probably because it's sold already

01:20:33.440 --> 01:20:40.080
two sold sorry guys only the first one's gonna get it um anyway so the other

01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:43.840
thing to bear in mind guys is that there are other things in the store and there

01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:48.320
will be more added these ones will go to the Linus media group coffers but this

01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:50.800
one this one's for you austin yay

01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:55.520
yay and i think that's pretty much it for the show today

01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:56.560
i think we're probably good

01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:02.159
um i'm really feeling like there's something else but i can't remember it

01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:06.719
at this point in time someone just messaged me wii u will have

01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:10.800
both ds games but they're marketing them as just ds games obviously because of

01:21:09.040 --> 01:21:15.360
the missing 3d um so i asked trying to specify does that

01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:18.880
mean i can play pokemon x and y on my wii u they've gotta they've gotta lose

01:21:17.120 --> 01:21:22.880
the whole confusingness with their naming scheme thing because you know

01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:26.320
what's really funny is i was mocking people a little bit for not knowing that

01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:29.440
the wii u was a different console i didn't know the 3ds was a different

01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:34.400
console i thought it would have been a what then a ds

01:21:32.159 --> 01:21:39.360
i thought it was just a 3d screen version of a ds and so you could see

01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:43.600
things in 3d when available

01:21:39.360 --> 01:21:45.280
and then 2ds is like not a ds which was

01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:51.760
in 2d it's a it's a 3ds but in 2d yeah

01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:56.239
ridiculous but i have this i have this ds light which already does

01:21:54.159 --> 01:22:00.880
2d yeah would i need a why would i need a 2ds a dslight was just a ds and a dsxl

01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:05.280
was a ds light but big

01:22:03.360 --> 01:22:10.880
like they they got to figure that out i mean maybe in maybe japanese people have

01:22:07.840 --> 01:22:12.400
better memories than us poor slobs over

01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:16.400
here and they can figure all this stuff out and memorize it but i can't

01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:20.880
so there you go i am just as guilty as any of you oh uh

01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:24.520
there's this thing at the bottom of the dock what's that

01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:30.880
oh that that's hilarious it's so

01:22:28.400 --> 01:22:36.000
i know it's old but i had never seen it before and it's hilarious okay so this

01:22:33.120 --> 01:22:40.719
is an ancient article on computer world this is back in 2011.

01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:44.880
march 2011 so almost three years ago where ASUS

01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:50.000
is trying to cut down on shipping waste in taiwan and comes up with the idea of

01:22:48.080 --> 01:22:54.719
shipping their motherboards in a box that also doubles as a case

01:22:52.480 --> 01:22:54.719
so

01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.400
it holds the motherboard snug for shipping and is constructed so

01:22:59.040 --> 01:23:04.960
additional components required to make a pc can be added said debbie lee a

01:23:02.639 --> 01:23:09.280
spokeswoman for the taipei based company the product is on display this week cbit

01:23:06.719 --> 01:23:12.000
etc etc etc and here's a video of it that is the stupidest thing that i have

01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:18.800
ever seen in my life speaking of houses burning down

01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:23.440
do you take a piece of electronics that is probably going to be fine

01:23:20.639 --> 01:23:28.560
but may burn up and put it in a cardboard enclosure no you do not their

01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:32.719
whole thing was okay there are punch-out holes for ventilation and a rear panel

01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:36.800
that houses the connectors some people said lee spend a long time looking for a

01:23:35.040 --> 01:23:40.480
case so this box is all they need until they find something

01:23:38.639 --> 01:23:43.520
come on anyway i think that's pretty much it for

01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:47.040
the show guys thank you so much for tuning in we'll see you again next week

01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:52.880
and apparently luke has something i think the new egg show

01:23:49.280 --> 01:23:55.600
is called the naw show the nad show shut

01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:58.800
up naw oh na show really

01:23:56.880 --> 01:24:02.639
new egg just named their new friday show that nash the naw show it's like are you

01:24:01.280 --> 01:24:05.760
going to bother to tune in to Linus after you watch nah

01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:12.719
how much you want to bet they had that conversation off camera those guys are such trolls

01:24:10.080 --> 01:24:17.280
i love those guys i love how it's not oh man we should move our show to friday

01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:22.560
morning we should totally do it when exactly is their show um it's like right

01:24:20.719 --> 01:24:25.679
before us i think the idea is people tune out and then tune right into uh to

01:24:24.639 --> 01:24:32.000
lanchow so i should just do really extended pre-streams every week

01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:35.679
yes really entertaining

01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.679
i can pre-stream preparing the doc so people can get like

01:24:37.760 --> 01:24:44.000
a little bit of a preview and i can do live discussions with people about the

01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:48.560
doc and then we can do the full show yeah you yes

01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:52.639
that would be that would be that would be a way to stick it to them

01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:58.560
we need to figure out their exact start time yeah we need to i wouldn't know

01:24:54.880 --> 01:25:00.880
because i never watched their show

01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:05.040
take that paul kyle vu joanne all you guys

01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:11.120
and all the other people whose names i forget there was one that i forgot his name

01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:13.280
like six times at ces is not the worst

01:25:11.120 --> 01:25:17.360
that's why steve that is the only possible uh reason why i would like

01:25:15.679 --> 01:25:21.360
facial recognition on glass i know there's so many reasons why it's bad

01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:26.400
though it would be awesome yeah it would be awesome just be like luke because

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:29.840
i've forgotten your name before i'm just bad with names it's just so

01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:33.920
much i don't know i and like people will forget my name and get super embarrassed

01:25:31.280 --> 01:25:37.199
about it i'm like dude i don't care yeah because i don't know your same thing you

01:25:35.280 --> 01:25:41.440
know what like i ran into yoinker men from the forum yeah i think a couple

01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:45.920
times at pax and every time it was like like i had no idea who he

01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:50.639
was again and it's nothing personal and like i felt terrible because

01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:53.600
he's one of our biggest contributors he's a really positive influence on the

01:25:52.320 --> 01:25:59.040
form i've talked to him plenty through twitter the way i usually recognize people is by their twitter avatars or

01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:04.639
their forum avatars when people change their form avatars i

01:26:01.280 --> 01:26:04.639
have no idea who they are anymore

01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:10.159
and i mean before msn and steam this

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used to drive me crazy was steem's history of people's usernames only went

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back as far as your local install do you

01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:20.560
remember that yeah that was terrible that was ridiculous and now that they

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have nicknames it's not as much of a problem but back before you could set nicknames for people my steam's friends

01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:29.520
list i have no idea who any of the people are like i'm half tempted to just

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do a complete purge and then start reading select people that make sense

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because i just like and and like i was doing a purge and i was like messaging

01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:40.639
people like who are you and they'd be like you know blah blah blah like uh

01:26:38.639 --> 01:26:43.920
monkey hood i'm like oh monkey okay it's you okay fine but like they changed

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their name and i'm like i don't know what to do okay our show is sort of done now we're

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just kind of like talking about nothing that isn't that cheese

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isn't that basically the whole show i don't know what do you think do you

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think that products should be renamed like gmo like a gmo banana

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i mean what have they changed have they made it bigger

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can they just call it jumbo banana but then is that going to end up trademarked

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by the company that made it and then are we going to end up with jumbo vanet bananas giant bananas uber bananas and

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like maybe it'll be like kleenex and it's going to be an interesting 50 years yeah

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yeah because i think i honestly think

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someone's gonna pick that up at some point and run because someone's gonna be

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like it's not technically a banana anymore or whatever

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it is once and like maybe there will be a threshold like once you get far enough

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away from the original definition of banana

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it becomes something like when does it become something else is a size change

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enough like that's what i mean color change enough i don't know because if

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like a banana was you know bigger and a different color and therefore much more

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impressive maybe you would have to call it something else or maybe it's strictly

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like it might look exactly the same but maybe maybe it's uh based on technical

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changes so like uh if nutrition values

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change by certain thresholds but then how do you quantify the nutrition value

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of a grape like

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unless you test from every batch someone must and then you have to do like a

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custom label for every batch i mean how do they handle that i don't know but

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this is i i think that's going to become an interesting thing at some point in

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time i have no idea how it's going to work i don't know who's going to imagine

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a banana big enough to make a multi-person size banana split like by

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carving out the middle of the banana and putting an ice cream i mean yeah okay there are problems with gmo

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but you want this like

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but let's think about the positive things here for a moment

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let's like build a raft out of bananas like what if you could carve halloween

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pumpkins that were apples

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the pit of that thing is like big enough to beat someone with

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it's like a flail or like like you know blueberries that

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were big enough to have like blueberry fights with

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that would be epic i think we're done here thanks for watching guys i will see

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you next week instead of candyland and you know what i'm super disappointed but you know what

01:29:14.639 --> 01:29:20.480
happened is our our youtube upload in fact i think i yep i saved this this is

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awesome okay well hold on give me a sec here guys because it's probably gonna break

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to break does that even mean i don't know what that's i don't know what this is what is

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that add hold on screen region so this

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is a new one this is one i haven't seen before but uh when i tried to upload our

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announcement for the wan party your settings could not be saved invalid

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request authentication expired which is ridiculous because i had just set upload

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and in order to change it i just went to a different tab i'm clearly still signed

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in so our notification that the stream was live didn't go up until like an hour

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into the show and i'm really sorry about that but anyway the um the archive will be up

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shortly okay peace guys bye