welcome to the WAN Show guys the weekly show where we talk about all kinds of
things to do with my little pony the latest furry trends and of course
whatever's on sale at hot topic so first up we've got as far as hot topics are
concerned AMD oh this is a tech show
yeah AMD mantle the battlefield 4 patch
is here but don't worry too much about it because there's no driver yet nope
however it should be noted there's an email in my inbox i will not confirm
that i have read the email but what i will say is that it's from
the same pr firm that amc you've read at least the
from i know who it's from have you read the subject line no i haven't read the
subject but i will say that that email was probably promising so i don't think
we'll be waiting that much longer our next our next headline this is kind of
awesome backblaze is creating sensationalist viral publicity for
themselves again there was actually an excellent
excellent article done up by tweektown about how flawed their testing
methodology was when they basically came out and said like seagate hard drives
are garbage so we'll be going through that a huge props to tweak town for that
article south korea has just been like nope no
bloatware on mobile phones completely banned which is super nice there's a few
things like wi-fi connectivity is allowed to be hidden but it's like
come on what are you trying to do it's like bloatware is not is now removable
which is nice source 2 engine leak and possibly a game leak that ends in three
although we'll get into that more later yes we
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into our first topic AMD mantle oh you
didn't want to do that one first no i said boom yeah boom AMD mantle so
there's been a whole bunch of news over the last little while it's finally
coming the battlefield 4 driver is
finally actually dropped like or did i say driver i'm sorry patch the
battlefield 4 patch has freudian slip is finally here you can actually install it
although there won't be any point doing that unless you're running an AMD graphics card that's based on the gcn
architecture not that there would be a point for you if you did have one of those graphics
cards anyway you could pre-load it you could pre-load
it and be ready to rock um but we're we're finally getting a ton more data
and here it is so while you can't install
the driver yet we have reason to believe that you'll be able to get access to it very very soon and this was the thought
was the thing that i thought was most interesting out of out of all the
information that's out there right now so AMD has released a little bit of
information about sort of what kind of performance improvements folks can
expect to see using mantle and i think many people were expecting their
graphics card to sprout wings and fly
so they were expecting to take like an r9 290x and
i thought you know have that go have that all of a
sudden be you know deep into the double digits percentages faster when that's
not necessarily the case
what mantle will do is it will alleviate
CPU bottlenecking so if you were in a
situation where i think one of the examples they give here yeah is a multi
or is a 64 player multiplayer game so
there's a 7970 and an fx 8350 where
previously directx might not have allowed the CPU to fully leverage all
those cores remember that's an 8-core CPU and you might have been CPU limited
even that 7970 which is a reasonably powerful graphics card well now with
mantle they're saying you can expect maybe even a 25 performance improvement
um by allowing your CPU to become unfettered now
i've seen i've seen reports of particularly with very high end graphics
cards the improvements being on the lower side i've seen reports of with
high-end graphics card the improvements being you know very exceptional but i
think it's really going to depend on what type of level you're playing what
type of scenario you're doing um and it's also going to depend on what the
actual finished product looks like because i haven't seen anything super
official yet this is mostly like leap stuff here and there a big part is gonna
be like you said levels uh area what's going on are you playing single player
are you playing a 64 player configuration all that kind of stuff and
the exact configuration of your machine do you have something that's underpowered in some area you have
something that's massively overpowered in another area so it's going to come
down to like the the perfect storm of all the different things happening to
exactly how much performance you're going to gain out of it you know what's funny i had it echoing i
had my twitch stream going every week
not every week every week and and and barefoot's better
what do people know
whatever barefoot's better man anyway so what we'd like i guess you know what i'd
love to do a twitter blitz for this what do you guys want to see us compare
because we're in one of those privileged positions where we have access to all
the hardware and i'm going to give you guys three options so option number one
is high-end cpus high-end graphics cards
take another run at battlefield 4 except
with AMD we run mantel with NVIDIA we run directx and see how things fall
or would you rather rather than comparing high-end graphics cards with
high-end cpus would you rather we have a look at the impact of mantle on low-end
cpus and we instead take one high-end
graphics card let's say a radio on r9 290 or something like that and we take a
range of different cpus or would you rather actually that was
pretty much all i had what would you rather we do because we're not going to be able to do
everything i think AMD's promised me i'll have 24 hours before a public
uh driver is released you know to to run numbers so let's say would you guys want
us to focus on GPU performance with a single high-end CPU or CPU performance
with a single high-end GPU are we taking a tweak from this are we straw pulling
it uh we're tweeting okay yeah so i was just making sure yeah go ahead and just
uh just tweet us with what you would prefer to see
this is exciting oh actually there was one other bit of mantle news so i mean
we knew this was coming it's not really mantle but it's the latest uh the latest
driver from AMD that includes opencl 2.0 support hsa support for kaveri apus i
also have some pretty badass spreadsheet support yeah so libreoffice uh this was
posted on the forum by
the sls amg
the notification libreoffice is now supporting mantle what so mantle as well
as opencl and hsa are going to be a huge
emphasis for them when you're doing things and actually AMD had some
interesting use cases for this so one example was um
uh buying and selling stocks within very tight time frames so when
you have a live feed of data that you need your spreadsheet to calculate and
spit out new quotes as quickly as possible they were showing um
hsa on a kaveri apu versus an Intel
quad-core processor and how much faster it could update so how much more
granular the data you could get was and it was actually very impressive and so
while most people will give exactly this many
cares about libreoffice's ability to calculate spreadsheets slightly faster
there are people out there for whom this will be extremely important so
we can't just gloss over it it's just all of all of twitch shadows just like
what what it matters it might not matter to
you what but it matters how does this make my
game run faster all right let's move on to our next topic uh
valve's in-home streaming i don't know if you guys saw the video we did on it
already or not um i thought it was one of the best videos we've ever done i
worked extremely hard on it actually like my legs are tired because
the thing about in-home streaming is you have to have mirrored configurations of whatever it
is you're doing in both places so in this house that ended up being on two
separate floors for the sake of what i thought was going to be improved
convenience and not having to haul things not at all
in one place and then run new network cables and stuff it ended up being a lot of running back and forth up and down
the stairs but it was a lot of it was a lot of fun to do and i want you guys to
check it out and you guys aren't the only ones
that are going to be checking it out this was extremely exciting this is the
first time i have ever gotten any attention from valve in any way
whatsoever but on steamcommunity.com in
the home streaming group which you guys have to join if you want to have the
home streaming beta enabled for you i was actually featured
on their announcements tab there's also a uh
forum discussion thing going on about it too yeah with 131 comments there yeah so
i thought that was pretty much the coolest thing ever it felt like getting
a gold star of approval from gay ben himself it wasn't i know but it felt
like it at least they know who we are at least someone there someone at valve is
that we exist is aware of our existence and anyway it's a great
video i hope you guys enjoy it it was uh i realized there was one thing that i
actually kind of left out from the video and that was how good is the gaming
experience other than when it's like fundamentally
broken like on ifinity and 4k i actually didn't talk about it
so that was a bit of a glaring omission it's actually very good there is
noticeably more what feels like jitter um and there is it seems like sometimes
tearing is a little bit more noticeable but beyond that i mean latency wise when
you're running on a wired connection how'd it feel for you it was absolutely really good um the only time with
what configurations people expect to work that it was kind of weird was when
we had that really low powered system did you have that in the video um i did
and so do you mean the one where we were only getting 720p 30 FPS on the sapphire
machine right yeah so it's not as simple as does the machine have enough
horsepower to decode an h.264 stream
that's what i think a lot of people thought and it's not quite like that it
has to be able to do that while managing that network traffic while sending
commands the other way and then it seems to just do some extra
so a dual core e450 apu that's a very low power older apu was not enough for
1080p streaming but something like an ultrabook even a dual core core i5 or
core i7 ultrabook was able to handle 1080p just fine the only issue is that
most of them don't have Ethernet on board so
i actually just picked up a couple more of these usb to Ethernet adapters i'm going to be
doing a um a great tech under 100 episode again i'm
going to include this as well as a couple other really cool things that i've been using lately
well the problem is that i had never owned one before and so i'd always kind
of made do without it and then i bought one and all of a sudden
i need it all the time i use it during WAN Show i used a netbook to make a pf
sense router for my house so now all of a sudden it's tied up there and i'm like
oh crap okay yeah more required one for the bag
one for the wan showroom and i'll probably be buying more of them oh and this one this one right here this uh
plugable usb 2 Ethernet adapter is gigabit so 450 megabits per second max
obviously because it's usb 2 but it's also rumored to be compatible with
shield so stay tuned guys you could be getting a limelight
versus shield versus valve in home
streaming wired versus wireless
latency roundup over the next little bit
that's going to be really fun that's actually really cool it's going to be a nightmare to do all the benchmarking
it's going to be terrible it's going to be just
the worst thing ever but i'm really looking forward to you
yeah i hate my life
actually i love my life it's just sometimes i hate things about it
so we should yeah let's do our twitter blitz okay so nathan wants different cpus with the
kaveri apu for the best CPU i think you're a little confused nathan an apu
has a CPU on it i would say if possible run all the cpus
but at eight gig or 16 gig configurations that's not going to make
much of a difference ludwig mantle is not in any way rumored to um
optimize the use of more memory more system memory
um okay that's one option though running a lot
of cpus with maybe a couple different graphics cards so like one high end one
like you know 100 150 dollar card like a
entry level gaming what i say we do which this might be
aside from this but i'm assuming that i'm doing all the benchmarking
actually help with this because it's only one run and we have two accounts with bf4 one
bench we could have multiple benches
we have um so we could we could do two different you could do one i could do
the other one essentially because you could do cpus with one gps and i can do
the CPU with multiple gpus we could potentially
do this yeah yeah maybe we'll set aside some time monday sure um so leonard
wants mid-range AMD versus high-end NVIDIA just to see what happens there
that would be interesting that actually asks for GPU test first uh dexter wants
to see the high-end stuff let's see the heavyweight showdown i mean you know
what that's i think what most people are going to be interested in too
ashley wants the apu tests uh one over option two
okay toxin sandals is better than barefoot thank you marius
the lone pc gamer do both options while rendering a video i think most people
don't game while they're rendering videos in the background maybe i'm
generalizing but i think in general it's correct i've
done that yeah i've done it too back when i used to have to edit but i think most people
usually don't running vms while trying to edit things was always really
interesting
anyways all right so take mid-range cpus and the same cards we're seeing actually a fair
bit of each CPU modder asks for both
CPU range comparing directx versus mantle sounds like apples and pairs well
it's apple okay this this okay i'm about
to go on a rant here levi i'm sorry but you've you've um you've started this
you take the responsibility this is the problem with fanboyism
there is no such thing as an unfair
comparison i'm gonna let that sink in yes there is
okay there's such thing as a flock
we're going to be covering back please
oh okay no no no there's a flawed experiment
but a correctly a correctly conducted experiment can't be unfair well that
means you're removing the unfair no okay oh okay okay cause there is
unflavored experiments hold on a second because okay okay okay
unfair i mean like emotionally unfair
like it's not it's not fair to benchmark
AMD versus NVIDIA and tomb raider because the 780 ti is bugged in tomb
raider that's not unfair that's just
it doesn't perform well sorry that's not unfair
it's a perfectly good experiment it's just that one of the things failed and
didn't do well that's all and an experiment is designed to reveal these
things so if you were to say it's unfair
to compare NVIDIA running in directx mode in a particular game that supports
mental versus AMD running mantle that's not unfair that's a feature that they
don't have that's it that's all there is to it if
this one performs better but at reduced image quality well now we've introduced
other variables and we have to talk about that but all other things being
the same if this one runs like this and it has this extra thing and this one
doesn't that's that that's it that's all there is to it i think i think there can
be unfairs and i think you just said one you could have different image qualities
there could be something it's still an experiment i really okay from talking to
uh johann anderson uh back at NVIDIA's event and this was at NVIDIA's event
he did not expect there to be any image quality difference between mental health
direct this is i'm not i'm not saying there is i'm saying not not i meant like
if you go in and go from very high to medium
that's unbelievable yeah but that's not unfair that's just stupid yeah but it's
still in fact that's just doing it wrong it's stupid and unfair okay but okay
fine then if there's no such thing as utilizing a product to its full
potential being unfair there you go so
you're you're putting both of them in the best possible configuration they can
be in and testing them against each other that's completely that's fine
that's exactly what we're going to do and that's fine like back when AMD was
having a lot of trouble with frame pacing taking an NVIDIA sli
configuration versus name due crossfire configuration and saying this destroys
this was fair yep i'm sorry your driver isn't good or not
as good as your competitor that's not unfair it's just fact yeah and until
it's fixed it's just fact and you have to deal with it so i don't want to hear
about unfair that's all in in that yes
yeah we're gonna we're gonna let things be as good as they possibly can as long as
it's not hurting the experience we are not intervening in some way that is
nerfing one of them in some way to make it worse than the other
we are allowing them both to go as hard as they can
for as long as they can
all right so this is interesting i did not expect anyone to do this it was like
fast you know he announced yeah the first version of it on the after party
wait this is v1 yeah oh i changed your
link oh you changed my link it didn't whatever your link was didn't work
no i thought that was a no i'm pretty sure i had uh a newer link whatever your
link was there was no download button it did not work
is this newer uh you can if you delete oh no this has
been this has been updated he says uh he says we won so yeah like i'm pretty sure
this is the newest one if you delete that end part of the url
so i challenged someone last week watching the stream i said look it's
open there's a lot of audio anyone who wants to do it what
oh my goodness okay are you sure you wanted to open
that Linus yes i want to open it
okay so we asked for someone to make the game
oh hold on i should just check to make sure the levels are okay
yeah you can't even hear it that's interesting it might be once you
start the game okay well we'll make sure it's not too
it's pretty loud okay we'll go ahead and turn that down a little bit there we go
all right so i asked someone to make the game candy-ass candy eaters uh there is
an avatar that you can use here so i'm gonna play on a medium so you get slick
and you eat the candy and you avoid the uh what are these
copyright symbols yeah i think spaces jump so the idea is to collect as much
candy as you can while violating as few copyrights as you can
um to avoid getting sued so i can show you guys oh oh no i'll show you guys
what happens what happened tonight oh i got sued
i go to jail so this was this was something where i
actually i paid the 100 bounty last night
uh where i was like okay someone has to make this game this is gonna be awesome so this was because of king games um
trying to trademark the word candy and
among other things and go after anyone who had a game that was sort of revolved
around candy so they're the makers of candy crush saga and i think they were
going after anyone using the word saga as well which is like really there's a
there's a few words they were doing so people are making like candy candy saga
rush and like candy saga whatever and all these different things it's kind of
awesome so yeah um we should have we should
definitely have a thread somewhere on the forum where people post their high scores and it's actually pretty
entertaining yeah it's not a bad game i've seen worse it's like actually
pretty alright the just for fun part is kind of insane oh this i hadn't seen yet
i i never play games just for fun
there's the storm of cameron
but like it gets difficult sometimes you break it okay we didn't say the game was
perfect just to be clear if you don't go too far
out you land on this little ledge and then you can jump back in
so like if you really need to dodge a thing and for some reason you can't go
the other way you can like shuffle out the wall someone should make a game um
where you dodge coins
and your dog is awesome no bounty for that dodging
coins i'm already poor enough all right if you win you should get
candy and it should be candy quest saga
coin dodger edition so there's more to
oculus rift than just gaming this article is from eurogamer.net
and is actually um talking about a use
for it that would allow people to virtually swap bodies so
you actually i think did most of the um there's not even really honestly that
much else to say what happens is you you sit in similar proximity and then to be
able to keep the immersion up you have to kind of move in sync with the other
person so a lot of them you do not want to play this um i put like flags all over that post
right there right there and right there so that you wouldn't play the video all
right cool
anyways don't watch the video um unless you are
of appropriate age because there is uh nudity within the video okay um but
essentially what what you do is you you have to move in sync so because like if
you if you grab your leg or if you grab your ARM like this for immersion if
you're looking down to be able to see yourself which is not
yourself it's the other person grab their ARM they have to do at the same time so all the movements are very
sweeping and very slow so you can do it at the same time um a few things that
break it from stop it
oh i see a few things that break it um as far as i can tell is like when
they're going like this um and stuff like that like the guy is
super hairy so as he's going like this and the girl
is like not hairy at all it's like well that wouldn't feel the same right at all
there's a few things that would break it in my mind um
but yeah it's interesting they have a few different reasons for doing it so
where is it by doing this they can participate in a
virtual body swap um they've entitled the machine be another
machine to be another and its whole idea
is to explore empathy and the nature of
the self that sentence is hard to say
the nature of the self it sounds weird so there you go
if you could find a willing participant and set up a be someone else machine
then it shouldn't theoretically be that hard no i don't think so because there's uh
you should do it
you've seen the video now i got a lot more awkward um there's there's cameras
mounted and stuff so it can feed out um
yeah i don't know it's really not that complicated but it's interesting that people are starting to do these ideas
because i think oculus is going to be used for a lot more things than just
gaming yeah all right so left 4 dead 2 in source 2
engine leaks so this is a powerpoint
presentation that was leaked by a fairly credible
source sea boat also known as crazy botox on a train that sounds credible
um so it's a leaked by seaboat
and uh there's some before and after shots of what it might look like on
source engine which of course has been heavily modified since it was originally
released they've updated it to the point where i mean really you'll go back to
the very first source games and they're hardly recognizable as the same engine
yeah but uh the point is that it is obviously
been upgraded significantly further than that so this would be uh this would be
source two and then there also seem to be some hints
that uh some some game with you know
like three uh half-life three might be coming at some point i mean valve is
always so tight-lipped about this stuff yeah it's okay it seems really fishy to
me i have to call it so it was not announced by crazy buttocks on a train
this was a different leak thing and it's super simple one thing about the seaboat
release was that like the powerpoint looked actually pretty fleshed out yeah
there was stuff on it there was other slides that weren't shown there was blah blah blah blah and it looked interesting
and full the other one's just like a directory screenshot it's like yup
cool so like anyone could have renamed files and just been like cool leaked and
then like why is it actually called hl3
yeah i can't imagine that like they didn't code name it at all really
okay yeah i don't know it doesn't seem
super crazy legit to me so i don't know about that one but the
the seaboat one seems quite a bit more legit
this is interesting yeah this is really interesting so next up is google
has begun ranking isps the same way that netflix
did so netflix repeat released this report
when was that that was what not that long ago six months ago maybe yeah
really not that long ago not that long ago where remember there's the speed
your internet service provider advertises to you
50 megabit or 100 megabit or whatever
and then there's the speed that you're actually getting particularly for
certain demanding services like on-demand video and typically
it is not anywhere near the level of
what they're advertising and i find like people like my mom are going to have no
idea what that means yeah like my my internet is this fast what does that
allow me to do no idea so now this translates that
information into something that makes a lot more sense my my internet is capable
of running youtube in hd verified mode oh well that's good so hd verified in
order to qualify you have to be able to run a 720p stream 90 of the time without
any hitches i mean a lot of people complain about youtube issues but i mean
maybe that's what prompted them to do this because many of the issues like
you'll go okay no my internet's plenty fast i can download something from here
and it's fast but then i go to play youtube videos and it's crappy
that's probably your isp dinking around and it's actually less likely that
that's google that is not able to deliver you the video in a timely manner
and it's a lot safer for them to do that too because especially with downloads
they have a lot of time rated speeds and youtube videos you just see it lagging
you don't know why it doesn't show like it is downloading at this fast blah blah
blah one thing that i wish they did was
i wish they had almost say different tiers
like why is it just you are youtube hd
verified if you reach this level why is the gold clarified would be nice
gold verified so it's like 1080p or higher or like you are hd standard or
you sorry youtube standard or youtube hd like i wish there was different levels
this is really cool though it shows so it shows the results in your area for
who is hd verified who is standard definition verified and then who is
lower definition so apparently bell in my area is low rubbish
um i don't know anyone that has i don't know anyone that has a bell connection like i gotta wonder if that's mobile or
something yeah it's weird i don't even know what's up with that
but uh there you go very cool who are some of these people breaks it down into
so so what quality people were watching at during those times so this is how
many streams overall so the peak was around 8 or 9 pm which makes perfect
sense and then what percentage of them were able to run in hd that's really
really cool so telus low tier for example was only able to achieve
about eighty percent of its streams in hd
that's low tier or whatever but then that's a low tier it's interesting because that's a lot more translatable
to someone who just wants an internet connection and isn't really that
interested in normal people yeah
so time to time to rage face a little bit
yeah do you want it do you want to handle this i don't think we can you can
tag team it sure my almost problem with this is that it's the exact
same thing and we will be saying the exact
same things as we did last time because it's exactly the same
but this time it's been scientifically torn
down categorically torn down analytically torn down by tweak town
so this was a great little article from paul alcorn where he basically goes okay
back blaze's thing that they released where they
graphed hard drive reliability and failure rates over time um showing
seagate to have an abysmally terrible failure rate which i called out at the
time i said well it looks like a lot of these results are being skewed by one
batch of a particular drive and there were other problems with it than that so
he actually dug through backblaze's excellent blog and found a lot of the
information that he needed to refute the claims that were being made with respect
to drive reliability which was which was really interesting um
so basically he dug through and went okay
this graph is interesting but it can't possibly have a basis in
reality because even wd's annual failure
rate of three percent based on what i personally already know about the margin
that exists on a hard drive for a company like western digital would put
them out of business yeah they wouldn't they wouldn't exist if that was their
actual failure rate in the field so you have to consider a number of
things so number one is these are consumer grade drives being used in an
enterprise environment
there was a lot of them that were ripped out of enclosures because something they
found which is very true is that a lot of times you can find cheaper drives in
enclosures one of the things is you're not entirely sure which exact drive is
going to be in there and what bin it was and blah blah blah blah but they were
mass purchasing to the point of having some of their employees banned from
buying hard drives from stores because they were buying so many and this was
during the uh the shortage yeah and then they were like putting out hit lists for
people to go out and buy drives from different stores for them and then
giving them bounties they were crowdsourcing drives like ridiculous so
they could get these external drives and then do what they call shucking which is
just like corn taking all the outside off and then using this internal hard drive so
they're using drives from wherever the heck because they're getting all these
externals who knows how they were transported
i mean that's a big thing guys let me tell you the failure rates for hard
drives are affected in a significant way by the manner in which they are shipped
or delivered from wherever they're coming from to the customer yep so so
yeah so sourcing was an issue um the fact that the drives weren't all running
in the same environment at all at all
was a big issue so different enclosures uh many of the failed drives were
running in an older style of enclosure that caused more vibration some of the
drives were going to be running near the center of enormous racks of drives where
it was i think they were observing temperatures up to what 10 degrees
hotter or something it's like if you have an entire huge row of um rack mount
servers like huge rows of them the in the middle
of the row so rack rack rack crack crack crack crack crack rack in the middle
find the hottest and at the top you'd find the hottest so the middle top
drives are going to be quite a bit hotter than the other ones yeah so the
huge temperature ranges which there have been reports that temperature
doesn't affect hard drive failure rates from them
but the manufacturers all seem to be aligned on
this i mean you look at guys like seagate and wd they don't agree on much
but what they do agree on is that vibration is bad and so that older
enclosure that seagate's drives were running in was terrible and they they
agree that heat is bad hard drives have
manufacturer suggested operating temperatures that you should stay within
and then lower is better according to the actual manufacturers
that actually engineer this stuff so basically once again backblaze has
gotten everyone talking about them um by making a sensationalist headline and
then they got tweet sound to have to talk about them some more and generate
even more publicity for them i mean and the funny thing is the tweetdown article
isn't even like hating on backblaze because a lot of what they were doing
was to help customers it was well intentioned really cheap
storage for their customers it's like okay
so but then just like please stop sensationalizing stuff
you know please that's all i like throwing companies other companies under
the bus pretty hard yeah i mean throwing someone like seagate under the bus
because like you wanted to make headlines really feels like not a good
uh not a very good you know partner if it
doesn't feel good to do it feels really icky
yeah um there was there was a yeah there's a bunch of stuff we talked about it all
but like i think they're on their third revision of black based server
another thing that bugs me too is in the in the more detailed charts um you can
find like there was years of difference between when drives were deployed too
yeah which is a huge deal yes
i mean to actually determine this scientifically you would have to have a
controlled environment you'd have to source all the drives from the same
place you would have to have them all performing approximately the same work i
mean that was another thing was uh that was their whole enterprise versus
consumer grade drives one where they had them doing completely different things i
mean that's ridiculous i'll be the first to tell you guys an enterprise or server
grade workload will kill a consumer grade drive
did i tell you how many drives failed in my Windows home server my original one
didn't weren't they just basically like candy they were basically like i i
probably had anywhere between eight and a dozen drives fail over the couple of
years that i was running it and the reason for that was because of the way
that Windows home server v1 worked data was constantly being shuffled around and
balanced between the drives for redundancy because it didn't use raid so
what happened was my boot drives would die because the boot drive couldn't be
manually removed from the drive pool so it had to handle running in os and doing
all that stuff and then it had to handle having data sort of swapped back and
forth on it all the time and that thing would thrash constantly and i just
drip die die die die die and it was a real pain when they died so i eventually
replaced it with an Intel SSD which is running to this day
because i mean it's not a ton of writes it's
just a lot of random all over the place which will wear out a hard drive faster
than it will in SSD
jumping to be wi-fi no actually i wanted to go to
hawaii's post on the forum so speaking of pc
component failure rates these numbers may actually be slightly more credible
because at least it's a wider sample and is actual um components that are being
deployed into the field by a retailer there's there's still there are problems
yeah i know there are problems the sample sizes vary anywhere from hundreds
of units to thousands of units um the
who knows if someone bought a whole bunch and then put them in a weird configuration uh they're none of them
will be in the same like very few of them will be in the same cases in the
same configurations yes none of them are really going to be the same temperatures
but letting end users use them is not a controlled environment but it's much
wider which almost helps it yeah that
almost makes it more relevant to the average consumer who's looking to buy
something so there's lots oh yeah another thing to consider about this
guys is that it does not account for
failed products that get returned to the manufacturer
because they have no way of tracking that this is only ones that came back to
the retailer so some some manufacturers
in particular have notices right inside their packaging that says hey yo uh go
through us don't go back to your retailer and i'm not saying they're not
trying to hide anything from the retailers it's just that i think some of
them feel like they want to be in charge of their own customer service and do a great job of
taking out taking care of this customer that has a dead product and i think
that's where the motivation comes from but there were just there were some really interesting numbers a Gigabyte
did really well with respect to average failure rates ASUS and asrock did really
well MSI didn't do very well but it looks like it was skewed by one model
that's cool because this breaks it out by manufacturer as well as by individual
models where which is really cool where it's relevant um
or where it's uh where it's where they had enough of them that's what i was
looking for where they had a big enough sample size were you surprised by
anything in here um
not really i mean i worked at a retailer for years yeah i know that's why i was
just wondering and it's it's funny because uh there is so much talk from
consumers about who makes reliable graphics cards and who makes blah blah
you know what there's like four factories making all this stuff
and they are all have extremely advanced
equipment and they're all improving their qa processes all the time and you
can do the simple math which is like i've seen accusations made that a
manufacturer has huge rma rates half of them die you can assume that if that
were the case they would not exist there have been products that were extremely
bad and you know i'm not going to throw anyone under the bus here
okay i will the striker extreme was a terrible product it was an awful
motherboard rma rates above 25 for that
board over the entirety of its lifetime there
are lemons there's higher than that in this dock
yeah so there there's stuff like that but the thing that the thing that
doesn't surprise me is that stuff happens
and the other thing too that this is another flaw with this is that it's only i think
what six months of data or a year of data or something like that yeah so it's
it's a limited time frame where one manufacturer can just have a bad a bad
spell for a bit and then that can make them look really bad on this report when that's not
necessarily the ongoing case although it does include some data from the previous
year in this report as well so it was very interesting
very interesting overall this is this is awesome uh ocz petrol
and octane SSD return rates um in the 40
plus percent ranges and a lot of talk
occurred about ocz rma rates and what i
would say at the time is guys yeah there are bad apples petrol was a terrible
drive i've returned hundreds of them but without even selling them when i
realized what was going on but something like vertex 4 and vertex 3 and vertex 2
before that i ran those vertex 4s for a really long time yep and and so did a
lot of people no i mean for like test benching yeah
and i beat the crap out of them when i was dispatching so like yeah pretty cool
so anyway so there you go you guys should definitely check that out on the forum
um it's also posted on Linus tech tips facebook which i've started becoming a
lot more active on so if you guys follow or like Linus tech on facebook then
you'll see things that i will post there it actually gets some exclusive content
now apparently there is a thread in pc gaming for candy ass candy eater high
score bonanza excellent i'm gonna post that in the twitch chat so people can
find that fantastic i'm probably gonna jump on
there at some point because i actually find it quite entertaining
b wi-fi this is an article from ours technica lets you steal your neighbors
bandwidth when they're not using it but i think steel is a bit of um as a bit of
a misnomer here because what the video actually suggests is more of a wi-fi
sharing concept so i'm just gonna turn that down
mostly you know what let's not even watch the video because overall i'm kind of
looking at this going like what are you high
um now you can try and defend it if you want um i think it makes sense in
certain regions i think you saw that in my notes which is actually what they
were targeting too i don't think like where where where anywhere that i have
ever lived nope so basically except for dorms at
university but then they would have their own yeah
everyone would have their own login anyway so the way that be wi-fi works is is you
you basically sign up and make your wi-fi hotspot part of a larger network
that anyone else who is also signed up can jump on and jump off
at will as they move around even so if you had a very very dense
city for example and everyone was signed up the idea is that you'd be able to
move seamlessly around the city and have wi-fi connectivity rather than relying
on your mobile data everywhere the problem that i see for this is that
even in a densely populated area convincing people to use this
apparently they have been um and that's
because of their target audience too they're not targeting us they're
targeting like um like they said emerging emerging economies and places
that have terrible internet like this is where you cannot have a skype call at
all or where you cannot watch like youtube pretty much
at all um or very low quality of each of them
and very intermittent of each of them and the idea is allowing you to actually
use some internet services this isn't really designed for people with like
google fiber this is not targeted that they're
pushing it out in certain areas of south america i don't
think they have any plans currently for pushing it out in areas in like north
america and stuff this is targeted at a different audience this is not targeted
at you yeah but i mean just okay fine fine okay
all of that aside from a sheer liability perspective yes there's a lot
of other people using your internet connection there's that but recently i
don't see okay part of this and i know you're gonna bring this up part of this
is i have no idea what the laws are there
so where they're pushing it out i have no idea how the laws come into play the
states at least um it was recently ruled that your ip is
not valid identity okay so in the states it wouldn't be a
big deal not just that though forget ip being
valid to identify you uh it's not like
you know let's let's let's say let's say someone was doing something illegal
downloading child porn on your internet connection your isp will know
who that was uh they will know that that came to your
connection forget forget your ip and somewhat like if someone's actually
working with your isp to identify someone doing illegal things
it can come back at you yes and you are
responsible in many places for what happens on your internet yes in many
places but we don't know the laws down there that's true
so i have no idea in the states again ip is no longer identity um
and there's there's some stuff that's gonna have to go on they have if you read through the article they have
brought up like security a few times but i don't know exactly what that means i
don't know if it means that if someone is
sharing your bandwidth that's another thing
like how exactly the router interfaces outside yeah
i don't know because they haven't like released super
technical information as far as i can tell yeah it's very basic right now so
maybe maybe a lot of what i don't like about it is just because i don't have
enough information yeah because it could be like it just helps that router in
some way however the heck that works exactly because like the idea is even
when you're not on the go you can be in your house and like your connection is
rubbish for some reason but your your neighbor has lots of available bandwidth
and you can like borrow from them so does that mean that all identifying
packets would be coming and going from their router not yours like i don't know
how it works um yeah i'm not sure and then the security
thing i'm kind of expecting that the only way it's secure is that it's
because you're sharing bandwidth you're not sharing an actual
local network so i don't think they'd be able to see your individual computers
how the devil would you do that and isp would have to be the one
load balancing there no not necessarily
sharing bandwidth like and like they're talking about this
like in wi-fi terms like like
i i mean i mean multiple visible computers ah that's my only thing and i
don't think you can connect to multiple hosts no so but i don't think that's
what they're doing okay they're sharing within the rotors
okay yeah well let's see
i'd well stay tuned i don't know all i could find on it was
not super detailed information so i'm not really sure ours technica posts uh
this is like the best thing ever we actually had this discussion last week
on the lan show is for better
uh for for a more innovative and more enlightened approach to technology would
you move would you pack your bags and go somewhere with better internet and and
better technological infrastructure
south korea has banned unremovable
mobile bloatware both from the carrier level and from the
handset provider level which is was really surprising to me because you
look at how um well okay up until very recently i don't
know if you saw this it's not in the dock but samsung and google have come to an agreement that samsung will begin
removing their replica their uh functionality
replicating apps from their handsets yeah so i think uh
there's there's a couple that are slated to go right away but you know how you'll
have you know calendar and like ask
calendar like mail like s mail
gmail you know i don't know snail mail like you have all these duplicated
applications on your phone by default and you can't remove any of them well
samsung and google have finally started to come to terms on that or reconcile
there and now like iphones hasn't really been a big deal um Android it has to a
certain degree but then like people have been able to get around it but then not
that many people yeah i mean my mom couldn't do it exactly so this does
actually help a lot i've seen a lot of people be like well well i ruined my
phone good for you so it's completely fine for me i'm like well that's not the
point yeah most people well i'm gonna blow your minds most
people don't root their phones
we do but that doesn't mean that and i don't even like doing it it's a pain
it's funny because so many people are like yeah it's so easy for her i can do
it in five minutes sure okay if you do it all the time maybe you can do it in
five minutes it's kind of like when i say swapping a graphics card is easy i
can do it in 30 seconds for someone who's never swapped a graphics card
before and maybe they have better things to do than spend this time doing it they
will have to go and read about it and make sure they will have to research which one to buy they might not know the
best place to get it so they might spend more et cetera et cetera et cetera
there's a there's a learning curve there's always a learning curve with anything new
and every time i've rooted a phone there's been some kind of problem it's
never at that simple when i did my wife's i've only done two phones but
when i did my wife's droid dna there was like there was a there was a radio
update that was you couldn't access
unless you got the new over the air unless you rooted your phone before you
applied the new over the air and then you had to do some with so you needed
like it was it was bizarre there was very little documentation and then when
i when i did my htc one very recently because i have a developer edition phone
there was blah blah blah there was this and that and that and half the tools
that are out there like one guy is had his post removed or he was
banned from xda or something but then you can find it
elsewhere but then it didn't even work and it's not that simple
so that's all there is to it unless you do it all the time and you're just kind
of going through a routine and you've done this phone already and you've
documented it and if you have a super popular phone yeah that helps because it
was not easy for your wife's phone especially when i was first tasked with
it because there was literally no documentation but then if you go try and
do like an s3 yeah it's
actually not that hard but then that's because there's all the documentation
you could ever possibly want for every model but then that can be a problem too
because it can be overwhelming for someone who's new yeah that's true but
they don't know which guides to fight through it and there's quite a few and some of them are more frustrating than
others and a lot of people pick sides which one's better and then that's
confusing because you're trying to take sides on an argument like i know people
people complain a lot my moderator is included about all the threads that pop
up on the forum all the time Intel versus AMD
or NVIDIA versus AMD and i don't actually hate it that much
because i understand that guy
because he's probably just like what i don't get it what's the answer i want
an easy answer and then everyone destroys them but like i i get it i'm
not in that position but i get it it makes sense all right so uh i guess
that was pretty much all there was to say about that yeah this is really not it's coming right away which actually
really surprised me like normally you see these kinds of rulings like hey stop
doing that and it's like you got six months or a year to
phase it out or whatever it is but i think it's like february yeah sometimes
something ridiculous like there's um all
all pre-installed apps must be detectable but there's some deletable
deletable but there's some stuff that they're kind
of not worrying about too much which is wi-fi connectivity near field
communication customer service and app store which i don't understand why samsung
needs an app store i was gonna say the app store doesn't really make a lot of
sense or let me remove it everything else kind of does and if i really wanted
your app store i would go get it yeah
um nintendo is not being allowed to stop
certain types of hackers um this is i think
i don't know i don't know i think they should open up more um nintendo i think
not i'm okay i don't necessarily think they need to open up their platform
because they're not going to so i'm not going to try and push them to do that um
but i think they need to open up to like indies and people playing with their
platform now this i can understand why they might want to prevent it although i
don't understand region locks i just understand that it's part of their yeah
you know what um you know twitter if you guys can find us
a fantastic article about why region locks need to exist
on games i don't the only thing i can possibly
think of is they're hoping there will be that one dude who moves and then has to buy a new
system in all new games but then like why are you being a jerk to that guy
just let him keep playing like the one thing i can think of is maybe um esrb
ratings like the uh you know mature ratings have more than one or whatever
else and again that doesn't seem to let them deal with it that doesn't seem that
complicated to just have a global game with all the ratings on it doesn't seem
complicated um another thing would be packaging
guidelines yeah so multilingual packaging i know in
canada but then just like don't sell them have it so that you can't sell it
in different regions but then why would you make it not work
yeah well okay another thing is gray marketing
so when it's different pricing in different regions having people just buy
all their games somewhere on the cheap and it's like you know what
what what are you gonna do it happens on steam
it happens physically like and and every
console gets a hack for not being region locked anymore but anyways um an italian
company named pc box which is kind of funny um has a little piece of hardware
device that allows you to play games from any region and nintendo is not
allowed stopping them although nintendo as far as i know hasn't like done a
legal reply yet yeah so we'll see what happens there um
i i suspect it's gonna hold but we'll see what happens there anyways
speaking of nintendo
so a little bit of deja vu like
the most accurate version of deja vu i've ever seen i i
i've been saying for a little while when people have brought this up like this
just recently happened but then i couldn't really find the article it took me a really long time um but here's a
quote from 2011 uh well okay first of all in 2011
they're having the 3ds problems so now here's a quote for cuts in fixed
salaries i'm taking a 50 cut other representative directories are taking a
30 cut and other execs are taking a 20 cut and
that's exactly like pretty much to the t
what he's doing now because of wii u
so i yeah there is still time for them to turn wii
u around i mean takataka i mean for anyone who didn't watch your video i
didn't watch it um talk about your experience with wii u um it's it's it's
been really awesome and there's massive rooms for improvement one thing that a
lot of people have to realize is that like especially i'm talking to pc
community we're a pc community um i have no interest in any of the other consoles
running right now as in new consoles so ps4 and xbox one i couldn't really care
there's the only reason why i could possibly carry is exclusives and then i'm not
super interested in the exclusives on either of those platforms what i am
super interested in is nintendo exclusives because especially first
party nintendo exclusives are freaking awesome um
and they're not moving to any other platform anytime soon or at all ever i
don't really think personally but we'll see um and like the state of pc right
now is co-op games are kind of few and far between and most
games that you could possibly play together with a friend are not really
co-op designed and aren't really like within the same house
planned out like a lot of nintendo games are so if you have friends over it's not
the easiest it now it happens but it's not the easiest thing ever for everyone
to bring their computer and full rig set up every single time because honestly
that's kind of annoying it's fun to do every once in a while but it's kind of annoying so if you can have something
that has a lot of games that are specifically designed for playing with a
group of people in a small contained environment that's kind of awesome and
that's what wii u is it's also not a wii which is kind of a
really big problem and nintendo has recently actually like very blatantly
said like yeah this is a problem everyone thinks we use just this tablet
accessory i can't even like that is we've had this conversation but that is
so baffling to me that people could think
that the wii u was a handheld
but it's well okay okay before people thought it was an accessory before i rip
on them too hard did anyone watching think that the wii u
was a was a handheld accessory for the wii and actually can you find that
article that walked through the uh
i'm probably not gonna be able to the reasons that people thought that the okay well we we remember a couple of
them so in NVIDIA are in NVIDIA's in nintendo's advertising they often had
the controller it's a controller uh with the screen on it front and center stage
with like a small black box that actually kind of looks like a black wii
behind it large black wii um and then
there's a lot of nose but there is definitely a few yeses
really okay there are some yeses okay why
okay there was not i
i always knew um but as from the people that i've
specifically talked to in person that didn't know i should put out a straw
poll for this that's what i'm gonna do um for the new straw poll so the people
that i've talked to that specifically didn't know um
what what they're saying is like we just said all the pictures showed this
handheld tablet thing and all the branding was saying now you can play
your games on the tablet and you can do some stuff on the tablet and yay
nintendo yeah it wasn't saying they could have solved this by calling it the
revolution or that was a way better a dolphin or we
too all their code names are so much better than their console names lately
yeah or or like anything that made more sense than we you
we made no sense so i guess it shouldn't have surprised us
but i mean still
okay all right i can see defeat i guess
it was possible if you're not paying attention like
the way that we do to tech news to think that the wii u was more of an accessory
but i it still is sort of baffling to me with how little i care about any given
console i mean i knew but then again again i do
pay pretty close attention to headlines and whatnot so i'm gonna i'm gonna grab
uh slick's link to the straw pool there
so fast with better ttv if you scroll up it
pauses all right so anyway
they're cutting salaries and you know i
respect that i respect that a lot cutting the executive salaries cutting
leadership's salaries when a company makes a bad move a company is a ship
okay and when the ship hits something it's not the fault of the
guy that was shoveling coal into the furnace in order to power this you know
the engine he couldn't even see where it was going
he didn't know you don't you know tell him that you
don't need him to put coal in the furnace anymore because you still need coal in your furnace if you're going to
go anywhere after you RAM into something you i mean the the the the
responsibility lies with the leadership and the fact that they're willing to own
that and they're willing to cut their own salaries rather than hurt their
employees so there weren't any there were there were no firings they just cut
executive salaries i think is very respectable i mean how how happy would
you be about working for me if we had a really rough year and i was like
everyone's getting cut except me come on brutal and the thing is um
we saw a snapback in 2011 we saw a snapback
company rallied they they dropped some prices they adjusted some things they
did a few things and we saw a snapback and i fully see that again in what way i
don't know i already see 3ds making up a lot of money where wii u isn't i don't
think they necessarily expected 3ds to do as well it is as it is right now
um so i think that can help off balance the wii u while they hopefully fix it
there was very recently a patch that massively increased boot time
interesting you can put it into a game much faster
and they're thinking of other things they have they have a sale right now for
um like indie style downloadable only games where if if you buy one or if you
already own one you get like 60 off the others or some crazy thing like that wow
like they're they're making pushes um
there's a few things that i think they can do um i should have grabbed this i didn't
realize we're gonna talk about this topic uh this much but there was a thing
saying that you can play ds games on your wii u now but i don't know and i
think it's like all uh downloadable store content stuff but i don't know
whether they were specifically talking about ds
right or if it's like 3ds right like i don't so i don't know what um game
catalog is actually on there because i might read into it enough um and i don't
know if it's official or whatnot like i didn't i didn't think we'd need it for
the show so i didn't go into it speaking of backpack catalogs playstation 4
getting ps1 and ps2 compatibility is pretty cool yeah carry on um anyways the
poll right now is showing about 20 of people
in our community so fairly informed tech people about 20 of them thought it was
just a handheld all right well there you go i was wrong
so if you jump out of the really informed tech community
yep it's gonna increase the further and further you get away so it's actually a
pretty significant percentage of people it's amazing because
you know honestly like i i don't i don't see advertising i just i gloss over it
completely if i want to know about something i will go specifically looking for it and that's the way that i get my
information so i don't often consider
how much of an impact a tv ad might have
on someone's education level about a particular product because to me
nothing i will not learn anything from your tv ad because i will specifically
ignore it whereas i mean if that's what people
were going based on especially you know moms and dads with
young kids that aren't really they haven't owned a game console in years if
at all then different different direct things
that i pulled uh while doing research was like uh an editor for i don't
remember what i think it might have been the verge his wife was opening up the
wii u box from what he had recently purchased and was confused as to why
there was a wii in it right because she thought it was a wii
she thought she was just getting the tablet thing she didn't realize there's actually a console that goes with it um
there was moms talking about like going going to say best buy and then
being confused when employees were trying to sell them wiius because she's
saying i don't have the budget to buy this 300
and something dollar this was before the price drop tablet why are you trying to
be this aggressive like leave me alone and they're like but it's not
and they're like what is because they have no idea because all
the branding when you look at it is a big tablet and they're like i don't need
my kids to have this nintendo tablet thing
so there's a lot of confusing messaging and i think nintendo's taking the right
direction a little bit if if you've been watching trending twitter lately if
you've been watching reddit lately all this kind of stuff they're up there a
lot of the time well i think the fact that placed beyond the initial hype
playstation 4 and xbox one are so uninteresting
and nintendo's the only one really making additional moves right now but
like it it makes sense and i i see them trying and the whole i have half my
salary thing was nothing but good publicity so
i think i think they might be doing the right things there's 10 billion people
right now that are trying to say these are all the different things that nintendo has to do to be make better um
but what i think they have to do is nintendo just has to try really hard and
i think they'll be fine because they're not they're not a bad
company they're not stupid they're not stupid um they're they're combining
their handheld and console divisions they're building that new building so
they can do it more effectively they're doing all this stuff they're working on
it just let them work on it they'll probably be
fine um speaking of working on things this
was a mistake that i made last week i had said that the htc one used a tn
panel i was completely wrong it is ips
it's actually in their own faq about the one which you can find on
htc's website however i do so it uses super lcd three which is
ips however i do still remember finding information somewhere and i don't know
what the credibility of the source was so maybe that was the problem saying
that super lcd 2 was tn
i could be wrong about that once again but my point still stands what i said
last week about not all tn panels being absolutely terrible is true some are
better than others some are really hard to look at and some are what i would
call okay not bad acceptable so there my apologies for that
um this is awesome
yeah um i don't think it's the biggest deal i think the prescription part
matters a lot more than the other part so google is putting glass on different
frames and they are now supporting prescriptions that is the hipsterist
looking person that i've seen today there's more of them if you if you go
through the like last video thing you just automatically look like a
hipster if you have glass though not like a hipster necessarily like a
glass hole perhaps i actually haven't used mine in a couple
weeks i haven't really seen you use it since like the second day you had it
yeah it's kind of stupid it's amazing how many people were
wearing them at ces i was kind of like laughing to myself
um it's it's i don't think personally in the like two seconds that i had to use
it because you gave it to me to use and then i didn't even want it anymore um i
i'm you know we're always like we're waiting for revision two or whatever yeah i'm
waiting for like revision four yeah i
i don't want this like little glass cube thing it's kind of terrible i want it to
be the whole lens the problem for me is that it's not adjustable enough i can't
get the screen in a place where i can comfortably look at it it's like way up
here and the problem is that my ears are not high enough up
on my head this could help so this could potentially help because
they have different frame options now as well as the ability to push prescription
lenses i think it can only handle from minus four to plus four so no extreme
prescriptions but it should handle the majority of people who just need a mild
prescription and want to use google glass so you still have to pay the
fifteen hundred dollar entry fee just to people be part of the google
glass explorer program that hasn't gone away and you get to pay another
225 bucks for the different frames
and then you get to pay they have new tinted shades uh up 150 bucks for those
so there's 40 combinations of colors frames and shades now
actually pretty crazy speaking of things that are expensive this battle in eve
so
yeah this happens like every kind of once in a while but this one was a
little bit absurd um usually it'll be like the biggest battle of eve ever it
was a little bit bigger than the last one this one's like the biggest battle of eve ever it was insane this one
doesn't make any sense everything went nuts um so many people lost so much
stuff um the the kind of like not
surprising this always happens thing kind of happened where someone forgot to
pay their bill on a building uh so that building holds sovereignty in
the area if you have that certain structures and whatnot are protected
like stations just explain what stations and not
everyone so like if you have a space station yeah it is protected like in
that system in that system yeah so within that system if you have a space
station and you have sovereignty there which is based on having another
building which has maintenance costs and whatnot i'm trying to not go way over
crazy uh so it's like the creep
other people can't build on your crap while you have your creep kinda but they
can build the things that take that over but then they have to defend them and
they have to go online yeah but essentially if that goes down
it becomes much easier to kind of shut someone's system down and take it over
essentially um system as in like area in
space uh solar system
there we go um so so yeah
there's some people complaining because apparently the the holdings corporation
that was holding that was paying for that building
had enough money and the check box was checked for it to auto withdrawal so it
should have never had problems with payments because it had more than enough
money like tons of money and the thing was checked and it still went down
so they're pretty not stoked about that and they're claiming bug and blah blah
blah blah so we're going to see what happens with
that eventually but who knows i don't know i don't think
anything's going to come from that to be completely honest and none of that will affect the fact that this cost five
hundred thousand dollars of real world money as they're estimating yeah uh i've
seen estimates anywhere from two hundred thousand to five hundred thousand so
quite a range uh we'll see what it ends up at but i'm i'm kind of there's been
there's been more of the estimates at the 500 000 range i haven't seen any
like list of lost ships or anything like that um i know there's been over a
hundred titans lost uh if you haven't played eve titans are
like when you first start playing and you're like oh there's lots of ships what are
the biggest coolest ships the titans are like massively ridiculously bigger and
more badass than all the other ones and then everyone gets all excited and then realizes they can't fly them for like a
year and a half or something um at the very least i don't remember exactly what
it is but those are titans they're worth about three grand each and there's been
over a hundred of them lost uh one of the guys from one of the corporations
was talking about how in a previous war it was such a huge deal and they had
lost and whatever whatever and they lost seven titans and it was like a super big
deal that they lost seven titans and this time they killed 40 within a small
window time frame and were like yeah there's still 12 hours until server
downtime and there's server down time like every day and they're like yeah we're going to
kill a whole bunch more this is ridiculous like this is this is insane
like every single time there's a giant big record in eve it's insane but this
is even more insane than it was before
part of my problem with knowledge on this is i haven't played eve in quite a while now
um apparently it's nine months straight of training to fly it then you have to have
stuff for like fittings and actually being able to fly it well and stuff like
that and titans titans are interesting because people people call them
essentially coffins because once you get in like you can't dock in anything
because ships can dock in you so once you start flying a titan you essentially
fly that titan until you die in the game
essentially so it's it's interesting a hundred over a hundred titan pilots were
finally freed from their coffins um freed from their coffins that's one way
of looking at it uh yeah i don't know that was kind of
insane i'm excited to read more about it um
because a lot of the news i found on this is from two days ago and a lot of
it is estimations so i'm excited to see the like this is what happened this is
exactly what happened this checkbox was unchecked or this bill came out and they
didn't expect so it brought them below this amount of money or ccp screwed up
or whatever whatever there was a mole or something like that i'm excited for all
that information and i'm excited for the final dollar amount because that should legitimately be
pretty interesting um what was also really interesting i'm
buying time for you to finish that what was also really interesting was reading
the dialogues between all the players because like i said 4 000 players and
this was like there was corporations from russia there was people from the states there was all over the world so
there's people that took time off work like quite a few people that like
officially took time off work like vacation days so they could go home and
play eve because the player base in eve is actually a little bit older than
quite a few games because some people call it a spreadsheet
simulator um so so people are taking time off work and coming home people
were like i think some dude skipped a flight um people were like stuck in
airports playing on their laptops which was super laggy like the things people
did to be able to defend their homeland
or to attack this area was insane and
it's it's really interesting so if you have the time like
google it look it up because even just reading some of the like the the twitter
interaction and reading through some of the forums is is ridiculous because this fight was
just nuts so um did i buy enough time today yeah i think
i think i'm good now yes wait oh hold on
no no need another minute
all right my favorite thing to do in eve because i'm talking about nothing at this point in time don't you have any
other topics no i think there is something oh yeah artificial artificial
cheese is stupid i was at subway today and they were like yeah we're out of
cheddar cheese so do you want this i'm like is that processed cheese and the
girl's like i don't know what
is it cheese or is it plastic
because they're not the same thing cheese is a dairy product processed
cheese is garbage and if i'm gonna be
paying for a sandwich that has actual
cheese that costs a lot more than processed cheese included in the price
no you may not swap out artificial cheese for real cheese why do we even
call it cheese they're not allowed to call whipped topping whipped cream why
are we allowed to call processed cheese cheese it's disgusting anyway that was
just a rant that i knew i'm so mad so she's like well we have shredded cheese
i'm like i'm melting it anyway yeah put that on that's fantastic thank you very
much for finding a solution to this problem that was obviously going to
upset me a whole lot i've actually been wondering for a little while why people
haven't been pushing like i don't really care that
much to be completely honest but why other people haven't thought of this and
been pushing for uh forcing different names on heavily gmo'd products
yes because if it is if it is something different because you have changed like
dna strains and you have genetically modified it
then is it still a banana
or is it something else and the organic one is banana
banana plus banana you
is it still a banana oh i'll banana you all right
um okay so i think i am ready now
i have been receiving many messages and trust me i always intended to do
something but i wanted to keep it kind of quiet because
like i don't know how i'm gonna actually i don't know i don't know how i'm gonna
keep this quiet enough to refer okay well whatever screw it he's going to
yeah he'll figure it out it's like immediately like immediately okay guys
keep keep your traps shut can i trust you to do that please don't we're trying
to do a good thing yeah we're trying to do a nice thing here and you guys are
gonna muck it up if you do things all
right so basically um i don't know if you guys know this but on
linustechtips.com there's actually a store now and if you are not a forum
contributor the store looks empty other than contributor badges so that's
monthly subscription fees those help us do all the things that we do just so you
know it's not just for the forum if you guys appreciate the work we do and you
want to contribute to what we're doing we would very much appreciate if you'd pick up a subscription but if you are
not a contributor it looks kind of empty if you are a contributor there are some
things in there and i will be adding a lot more some of them are samples some
of them are things i've bought and don't need anymore but it's basically discounted tech stuff and the discounts
get better for higher contribution
levels so be ready for that guys because i'm going to be hitting it with a flood
of stuff sometime in the next couple of weeks but
in the meantime something that is accessible to everyone is this item that
i just created i only have one of them so only the first person
will be able to buy it this is an MSI gtx 780 lightning edition
for 500 bucks plus shipping and whatever applicable taxes are going to get billed
to you when it arrives i'll ship it anywhere in the world but it should be
noted that the chances of it arriving in one piece are a lot better if you're
within north america because shipping internationally is sort of horrible
so 500 bucks and the proceeds go to austin evans to help him with something
that is undisclosed at this time well i mean his house burned down so obviously
we know that that something bad happened
and uh you know something has to be done
but exactly what the proceeds will go towards will be disclosed later but that
500 is definitely for him so this comes out
of our someone's like will you take bitcoin no um so convert bitcoin to cash and buy it
this is something i don't understand why do you need retailers to accept bitcoin
because they all do the same thing they take bitcoin at a horrible exchange rate
like a terrible one just convert it and save money buy things
i don't okay anyway sorry sorry i'm gonna be ranting again so
austin's house burned down wasn't his fault it was someone on a different
floor whose heater lit on fire it burned to the ground he lost almost everything
all he has is a safe with some personal belongings that he didn't say what it
was he's got his macbook he's has he's has
his phone and that's just about it i don't know what his insurance situation
was so at any rate guys um
i posted the link and someone's like give austin a job
austin doesn't need a job from me he'll be back on his feet in no time he's he's
he's he's a good kid he's he's a good guy what did you price
it at i put it for 500 bucks so that's about 100 under retail
so proceeds to austin apparently it's gone already so if if on if someone if whoever
tried to buy it doesn't actually end up sending the money or whatever else
oh i really hope i set it to only one in stock because i only have one only the
first person will get it guys only the first person will get it
oh i said number in stock oh no okay that's probably because it's sold already
two sold sorry guys only the first one's gonna get it um anyway so the other
thing to bear in mind guys is that there are other things in the store and there
will be more added these ones will go to the Linus media group coffers but this
one this one's for you austin yay
yay and i think that's pretty much it for the show today
i think we're probably good
um i'm really feeling like there's something else but i can't remember it
at this point in time someone just messaged me wii u will have
both ds games but they're marketing them as just ds games obviously because of
the missing 3d um so i asked trying to specify does that
mean i can play pokemon x and y on my wii u they've gotta they've gotta lose
the whole confusingness with their naming scheme thing because you know
what's really funny is i was mocking people a little bit for not knowing that
the wii u was a different console i didn't know the 3ds was a different
console i thought it would have been a what then a ds
i thought it was just a 3d screen version of a ds and so you could see
things in 3d when available
and then 2ds is like not a ds which was
in 2d it's a it's a 3ds but in 2d yeah
ridiculous but i have this i have this ds light which already does
2d yeah would i need a why would i need a 2ds a dslight was just a ds and a dsxl
was a ds light but big
like they they got to figure that out i mean maybe in maybe japanese people have
better memories than us poor slobs over
here and they can figure all this stuff out and memorize it but i can't
so there you go i am just as guilty as any of you oh uh
there's this thing at the bottom of the dock what's that
oh that that's hilarious it's so
i know it's old but i had never seen it before and it's hilarious okay so this
is an ancient article on computer world this is back in 2011.
march 2011 so almost three years ago where ASUS
is trying to cut down on shipping waste in taiwan and comes up with the idea of
shipping their motherboards in a box that also doubles as a case
so
it holds the motherboard snug for shipping and is constructed so
additional components required to make a pc can be added said debbie lee a
spokeswoman for the taipei based company the product is on display this week cbit
etc etc etc and here's a video of it that is the stupidest thing that i have
ever seen in my life speaking of houses burning down
do you take a piece of electronics that is probably going to be fine
but may burn up and put it in a cardboard enclosure no you do not their
whole thing was okay there are punch-out holes for ventilation and a rear panel
that houses the connectors some people said lee spend a long time looking for a
case so this box is all they need until they find something
come on anyway i think that's pretty much it for
the show guys thank you so much for tuning in we'll see you again next week
and apparently luke has something i think the new egg show
is called the naw show the nad show shut
up naw oh na show really
new egg just named their new friday show that nash the naw show it's like are you
going to bother to tune in to Linus after you watch nah
how much you want to bet they had that conversation off camera those guys are such trolls
i love those guys i love how it's not oh man we should move our show to friday
morning we should totally do it when exactly is their show um it's like right
before us i think the idea is people tune out and then tune right into uh to
lanchow so i should just do really extended pre-streams every week
yes really entertaining
i can pre-stream preparing the doc so people can get like
a little bit of a preview and i can do live discussions with people about the
doc and then we can do the full show yeah you yes
that would be that would be that would be a way to stick it to them
we need to figure out their exact start time yeah we need to i wouldn't know
because i never watched their show
take that paul kyle vu joanne all you guys
and all the other people whose names i forget there was one that i forgot his name
like six times at ces is not the worst
that's why steve that is the only possible uh reason why i would like
facial recognition on glass i know there's so many reasons why it's bad
though it would be awesome yeah it would be awesome just be like luke because
i've forgotten your name before i'm just bad with names it's just so
much i don't know i and like people will forget my name and get super embarrassed
about it i'm like dude i don't care yeah because i don't know your same thing you
know what like i ran into yoinker men from the forum yeah i think a couple
times at pax and every time it was like like i had no idea who he
was again and it's nothing personal and like i felt terrible because
he's one of our biggest contributors he's a really positive influence on the
form i've talked to him plenty through twitter the way i usually recognize people is by their twitter avatars or
their forum avatars when people change their form avatars i
have no idea who they are anymore
and i mean before msn and steam this
used to drive me crazy was steem's history of people's usernames only went
back as far as your local install do you
remember that yeah that was terrible that was ridiculous and now that they
have nicknames it's not as much of a problem but back before you could set nicknames for people my steam's friends
list i have no idea who any of the people are like i'm half tempted to just
do a complete purge and then start reading select people that make sense
because i just like and and like i was doing a purge and i was like messaging
people like who are you and they'd be like you know blah blah blah like uh
monkey hood i'm like oh monkey okay it's you okay fine but like they changed
their name and i'm like i don't know what to do okay our show is sort of done now we're
just kind of like talking about nothing that isn't that cheese
isn't that basically the whole show i don't know what do you think do you
think that products should be renamed like gmo like a gmo banana
i mean what have they changed have they made it bigger
can they just call it jumbo banana but then is that going to end up trademarked
by the company that made it and then are we going to end up with jumbo vanet bananas giant bananas uber bananas and
like maybe it'll be like kleenex and it's going to be an interesting 50 years yeah
yeah because i think i honestly think
someone's gonna pick that up at some point and run because someone's gonna be
like it's not technically a banana anymore or whatever
it is once and like maybe there will be a threshold like once you get far enough
away from the original definition of banana
it becomes something like when does it become something else is a size change
enough like that's what i mean color change enough i don't know because if
like a banana was you know bigger and a different color and therefore much more
impressive maybe you would have to call it something else or maybe it's strictly
like it might look exactly the same but maybe maybe it's uh based on technical
changes so like uh if nutrition values
change by certain thresholds but then how do you quantify the nutrition value
of a grape like
unless you test from every batch someone must and then you have to do like a
custom label for every batch i mean how do they handle that i don't know but
this is i i think that's going to become an interesting thing at some point in
time i have no idea how it's going to work i don't know who's going to imagine
a banana big enough to make a multi-person size banana split like by
carving out the middle of the banana and putting an ice cream i mean yeah okay there are problems with gmo
but you want this like
but let's think about the positive things here for a moment
let's like build a raft out of bananas like what if you could carve halloween
pumpkins that were apples
the pit of that thing is like big enough to beat someone with
it's like a flail or like like you know blueberries that
were big enough to have like blueberry fights with
that would be epic i think we're done here thanks for watching guys i will see
you next week instead of candyland and you know what i'm super disappointed but you know what
happened is our our youtube upload in fact i think i yep i saved this this is
awesome okay well hold on give me a sec here guys because it's probably gonna break
to break does that even mean i don't know what that's i don't know what this is what is
that add hold on screen region so this
is a new one this is one i haven't seen before but uh when i tried to upload our
announcement for the wan party your settings could not be saved invalid
request authentication expired which is ridiculous because i had just set upload
and in order to change it i just went to a different tab i'm clearly still signed
in so our notification that the stream was live didn't go up until like an hour
into the show and i'm really sorry about that but anyway the um the archive will be up
shortly okay peace guys bye